Re: Incoming mail size?

2015-04-11 Thread Andrew Webber
I believe that should be read as

Receive only header if message
size is greater than...

IOW don't pull down really big messages unless I say to. I still have this set 
to 5MB from the days I was getting by on 1GB/no at one location. There's an 
analogous setting in most smartphone apps so you don't get monstrous emails 
downloading over the mobile network.

=aw



 but it's not clear
to me what that option really means.  Receive header only if message
size is greater than... seems to imply that a message header (what's
a message header?) will never be received if it doesn't meet a certain
size requirement.  And then what happens if that option is not ticked
as in my case?



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Possible to copy filters to another account?

2014-08-20 Thread Andrew Webber
I have a lot of filters for incoming mail (each pretty much just
filters into a folder). I'm recreating the folder structure in another
account, and would like to have the appropriate filters in that
account too. Is there a way to copy them to another, rather than
having to recreate each in turn?

Thanks!

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Re: Cache

2010-11-13 Thread Andrew Webber
Monday, November 8, 2010, 1:57:37 PM, you wrote:

 It  wasn't  one  file,  it  were  over fifty-thousand files. The
 path to my mail  directory  is  F:\TB  and  there's a subdirectory
 called 'cache'. There were all  those files, meanwhile deleted.

I don't have a folder cache in the hierarchy of my The Bat!
messages. Should I be worried? I don't see a separate entry for cache
location under Options | Preferences.

Thanks!


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Re: Cache

2010-11-13 Thread Andrew Webber
Saturday, November 13, 2010, 8:54:46 PM, you wrote:

 Here  is  the  location  of  my cache - I have Windows 7 Home Premium,
 32-bit:  E:\My Documents\The Bat\cache

 Of course, my mail is also stored in E:\My Documents\The Bat


Thank you Bob and Rick,

Windows 7 Pro 32-bit,
my path is C:\Users\[username]\Documents\The Bat\

and the only folders that don't match a mail account are
dictionaries and Speller



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Re: All The Bat! files disappeared?

2010-10-21 Thread Andrew Webber
Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 12:46:52 PM, you wrote:

 Dragging the folder back up to its proper level should put things back as
 theyy were before the move, but you may find that initially all the
 sub-folders seem to be empty. I had that experience when I copied my
 installation from one machine to another. However I discovered that when I
 clicked on any of the empty folders, it immediately was re-populated.
 Apparently there are internal indexes that don't get built when moving the
 mail system, but do get built on the first attempt to access the folder.

 It was quite disconcerting at first, but all turned out well once I had
 found out how to trigger the rebuilding action!

 One caution: instead of deleting the present top-level structure, I would
 simply rename it to something like My Doicuments\tb.new so that you don't
 lose the messages that it contains. You can them import them back into
 their rightful locations after restoring the original files.

Thanks, all seems well again. I haven't imported the very few messages
downloaded before I noticed the problem, but I did copy the folder for
that purpose.

=aw




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Re: Folders on disk, missing from TB!

2009-12-10 Thread Andrew Webber
Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:03:53 AM, you wrote:

 On Wednesday 9 December 2009 at 3:22:07 AM, in
 mid:991923889.20091208222...@wwwebbers.com, Andrew Webber wrote:


 Folder X has MESSAGES.TBB = 43 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 18 KB
 Folder Y has MESSAGES.TBB = 3968 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 316
 KB Folder Z has MESSAGES.TBB = 84 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 24
 KB

 Is there anything else I can do to have The Bat! find
 these?

 What happens if you just create a new Folder Y from within TB! (and
 make sure it points to the same path as the old one if not using
 default as the directory path for all folders)? The newly
 re-created Folder Y should contain the existing messagebase,
 although I can't remember if you need to close and re-start TB! for
 it to find it.

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried that and got this message: The
directory specified seems to be already used by another folder. Do you
still want to use this directory?.

I expect that's okay but I wanted to make sure TB! wasn't going to
blow away what's there.

Should I say yes?

Thanks!

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Re: Folders on disk, missing from TB!

2009-12-10 Thread Andrew Webber
MFPA,


Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:14:42 PM, you wrote:

 On Thursday 10 December 2009 at 7:22:43 PM, in
 mid:403104275.20091210142...@wwwebbers.com, Andrew Webber wrote:


 Thanks for the suggestion. I tried that and got this
 message: The directory specified seems to be already
 used by another folder. Do you still want to use this
 directory?.

 I expect that's okay but I wanted to make sure TB!
 wasn't going to blow away what's there.

 Should I say yes?

 Just in case, make a copy of the files from the relevant folder
 first.  I'm confident there will be no issues with saying yes but
 I don't want you to lose any data by following my advice.  (-;

Thanks. I did that I there are the emails (I assume it's all of them,
but even if not it's definitely a bunch that end the day before my new
folder started).

So it did work. I appreciate the help. :)

=aw




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Folders on disk, missing from TB!

2009-12-08 Thread Andrew Webber
The Bat! Professional v4.0.38, Windows 7, no encryption since it cause
me so much trouble before and turned out not to be secure anyway (when
I restored from a backup of the encrypted install, no password needed
to reveal everything!).

Some folders seem to be disappearing and I don't know why. To cite one
example I'm sure of, in Windows Explorer I can see folder X with
sub-folders Y and Z.

In The Bat! I can only see X and Z. I've done CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L from
the account's Inbox, from X, and from Z. In every case I get 0 lost
folders found. Z didn't even exist before, I had X and Y and when Y
disappeared, I thought I deleted it (Y) by accident so I created Z.

Folder X has MESSAGES.TBB = 43 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 18 KB
Folder Y has MESSAGES.TBB = 3968 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 316 KB
Folder Z has MESSAGES.TBB = 84 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 24 KB

Is there anything else I can do to have The Bat! find these?

Thanks!

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Firefox and The Bat! (for mailto:)

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Webber
Hello, I'm having a problem with mailto: links in Firefox.

Windows XP, Firefox 3.5.3, The Bat! 4.0.38

I'm sure this used to work properly, but now when I click on a mailto:
URL in Firefox, Windows starts installing MS Outlook instead of
launching The Bat!.

I went into Tools | Options and searched for mailto. The possible
actions are:
-- Use Microsoft Office Outlook (default)
-- Use Yahoo! Mail
-- Use Gmail
-- Use other

I suppose I could choose the last option and point to The Bat!, but
before I do, I'm wondering why this is happening. On the Start menu,
The Bat! is the email program (2nd item, left side). In IE7, The Bat!
is the email program.

I also don't get The Bat! as an option under Control Panel | Set my
default email program (in that case, I get Outlook, Outlook Express,
and Forte Agent).

What's the best way to get this to work in Firefox?

Thanks!

  

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Re: Firefox and The Bat! (for mailto:)

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Webber
Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 2:12:20 PM, I wrote:

 Hello, I'm having a problem with mailto: links in Firefox.

 Windows XP, Firefox 3.5.3, The Bat! 4.0.38

 I'm sure this used to work properly, but now when I click on a mailto:
 URL in Firefox, Windows starts installing MS Outlook instead of
 launching The Bat!.

 I went into Tools | Options and searched for mailto. The possible
 actions are:
 -- Use Microsoft Office Outlook (default)
 -- Use Yahoo! Mail
 -- Use Gmail
 -- Use other

 I suppose I could choose the last option and point to The Bat!, but
 before I do, I'm wondering why this is happening. On the Start menu,
 The Bat! is the email program (2nd item, left side). In IE7, The Bat!
 is the email program.

 I also don't get The Bat! as an option under Control Panel | Set my
 default email program (in that case, I get Outlook, Outlook Express,
 and Forte Agent).

 What's the best way to get this to work in Firefox?


Sorry, one correction to what I wrote above. After I posted, I tried
doing it in IE7, and though it says The Bat! is my email client, I
still get Outlook 2007 Setup when I clicked on the mailto: link.



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Re: TB 4.0.38: Corruption problems with mail folders

2009-08-02 Thread Andrew Webber
Thank you for the detailed answers Thomas, I have some follow-ups
below

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Sunday, August 2, 2009, 2:29:55 AM, you wrote:

AW It may be that I never quite cleaned up the problem, I'm not sure.
AW Typically when I ran the Maintenance Centre, it would find lots of
AW errors in lots of folders, then I'd end up with empty folders. :( I
AW guess I get part.bin files, though I haven't done anything with
AW them.

 The problem with on-the-fly encryption (OTFE) is that you can't do
 anything with them. I have not managed to import or access the mails
 inside.

So even if I'm running TB! with the same OTFE password, it won't let
me import those renamed part.bin files!? I had inferred from
RITL's answer that I could import them using the password. :( I
certainly can't do anything with them using TextPad, which seems to be
how the Help screens recommend.


AW I've got several .TBK backups available, and I have 32 part.bin
AW files in various folders. What's the best way to get the most files
AW back?

 Uninstall TheBat! and reinstall as Plain. Do not use OTFE. If you
 now restore from backup, your mails will be there. If the manitenance
 center resilts in *.bin files, then you  can rename these files to
 .EBB and import into TB!.

All the .TBK backups were created with OTFE turned on. If I reinstall
without OTFE, will I be able to restore from those existing .TBKs? Or
are you suggesting specifically to do a backup _today_ without OTFE
(after reinstalling) and then do the Maintenance Centre?


 Obviously, you would have to move them first, because the file names
 already exist in that folder. However, in my experience it does not
 work with OTFE, but they might have changed something in the meantime,
 so I suggest to try this first before you uninstall and reinstall.

I will try doing the import from a renamed part.bin and see what
happens.


AW Does this seem reasonable? Will restoring from a backup overwrite
AW what I already have

 Yes.

Just to be entirely clear, it overwrites the emails that match, or
clears out the folder and replaces with the contents of the backup?


AW (if so, what do I do?)?

 I hope you leave messages on the server.

I've started doing that but only recently.


 In fact, it shouldn't be happpening. I suggest you check your harddisk
 for mechanical failures, I think FDISK does the job but please wait
 for experts here to contradict me.

I suspect you're right, I need to verify the HD as a precaution.

Thanks again!
=aw




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TB 4.0.38: Corruption problems with mail folders

2009-08-01 Thread Andrew Webber
Hello,

I've been using The Bat! for some time and have been having an ongoing
problem with corrupted mail folders. (The Bat! v4.0.38, with on-the-fly
encryption active.)

It may be that I never quite cleaned up the problem, I'm not sure.
Typically when I ran the Maintenance Centre, it would find lots of
errors in lots of folders, then I'd end up with empty folders. :( I
guess I get part.bin files, though I haven't done anything with
them.

Most recently I did a restore from a .TBK backup and appear to have
restored some bad folders (I could see it happening, since I'm likely
now to do a backup before messing around with my message base, yet
I've got bad folders).

I've got several .TBK backups available, and I have 32 part.bin
files in various folders. What's the best way to get the most files
back?

I'm thinking I should restore all the backups, good and bad, then run
Maintenance Centre again and let it purge the dupes and create yet
more .bin files. Then, import from the .bin files (RIT told me to do
that, though I'm not completely clear on the procedure since they said
to rename as MESSAGES.TBB [presumably MESSAGES.EBB?] and import,
though I guess not from their current folders).

Does this seem reasonable? Will restoring from a backup overwrite what
I already have (if so, what do I do?)? And is there a way to avoid
this happening again and again? I'm not now sure whether everything
was cleaned up once, then went bad again, or if I never really got the
badness fixed. 

Thanks!

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