lost config
Hello, I just installed 10.3.2 over 9.3.01 and my configuration is gone. It found my accounts but all my configuration and messages are gone. I have been using TheBat since 2010. Every update was painless. However, this one was not painless. I was able to restore version 9 with a backup I had, but do not want to install 10 again (which I just paid for) until I can be sure it will install and capture all my messages and configuration. Any suggestions on what I did wrong or what the issue is? Anyone else have this issue. -- Best regards, Joe mailto:under...@igdc.com Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Target icon
Hello , I just noticed a "target" looking icon. It looks like a red, yellow and green target. Nothing happens when I click, left or right, or double. I can drag it anywhere on the desktop. It will stay where I put it. It goes away when I minimize thebat and comes back when I open thebat. See attached snippit/ Any ideas? -- Best regards, Joe mailto:under...@igdc.com Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
pop up
Hello, This just started happening in the last few weeks. Not sure what changed. I click on an email from the list to view it in the bottom pane. Sometimes, not always, I see a quick pop up. It goes away so fast that I can't see waht it is, but it looks like it is related to the mail I just clicked on. Is TheBat letting mail with javascript pop up a browser window? Any ideas on how I can trap this to see what is causing it or can I configure TheBat to not allow pop ups.. I am running TheBat Pro 5.3.10. -- Best regards, Joe mailto:under...@igdc.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Notes on emails...
Hello, I am using the latest version of The Bat! on XP. I wonder if there is a way to write a note to attach to an email that only I can see. For example I could mouse over or something and see This email needs to be replied to day after tomorrow. Like a 3M Sticky note, in purpose anyway. I tried searching for note in the help and was overwhelmed with hits from all the mentions of note: throughout the help files. I use flags and message parking and will check out color groups. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Notes on emails...
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 11:27:20 AM, you wrote: You can add a memo. Select the message, press Ctrl-Shift-I and add some text to the memo field It won't pop-up, but you can add an extra column to the message list that shows the first characters of the memo field, so you know what messages have got a memo. Exactly what I needed! Thanks you's flow to you like a raging river! -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Using The Bat! v4.0.34 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply all off right click menu
Hello, When I right click an email - I get the reply option (Along with everything else) but I don't get the reply all option. Is there a way to get that on my menu? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Using The Bat! v3.98.1 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hyperlinks not working
Hello MFPA, Friday, March 9, 2007, 7:20:24 PM, you wrote: IE has a use? Uhm yeah, You use it to download Opera or Mozilla-type browser after you install Windows. Silly you... -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where's the File for Email Addresses
Hello Tim, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:02:20 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, Can someone please help me find the file that contains the email addresses? I am a fairly new The Bat! user, so this advice may be in error. However, I checked my 'ADDRBOOK.INI' file and it pointed to numerous .ABD files. However, The Bat! has great back up and restore features. IIRC, you can just choose to just back up address books, if this is your motivation for the request. Good luck. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Setting up filters
Hello Chris, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 1:10:51 PM, you wrote: Sender match (^\d+|\d+)@ Thank you very much! -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting up filters
Hello TBUDL, I am new to The Bat! I am a convert from Mozilla. I did some searching and understand there is a language to writing more complicated filters, yet it is over my head. Therefore, I am coming to this list for help. I would like to filter email with numbers for user names to my trash (anti-spam effort). For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc... What would be the correct syntax for this? Thanks in advance. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Maxim Masiutin
Hello tbudl, I have a folder with filters set up to move mail sent to this list to it, yet [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Maxim Masiutin goes right to my inbox-known and no matter how I set the rule I cannot filter this guy's messages. It is exceedingly annoying. Using The Bat! v3.95.6 -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Maxim Masiutin
Hello Alexander, Saturday, January 27, 2007, 10:47:06 AM, you wrote: Sounds like you need to review your filter configuration (the order how your filters are executed, to be more precise). If your known filter runs before your list filter, it will filter messages from people in your addressbook into your inbox-known, no matter if it was a listmail or a personal mail. That was it, the rules get executed from top to bottom. Thank you. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/25/06, Perry Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The first words out of my mouth to them would be have any other customers reported their mail being rejected because the SMTP servers at BellSouth were blacklisted for spamming? Follow that with Miguel's (MAU) advice and explanation in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A number of knowledgeable people have replied to you in this thread. I suspect their diagnosis of the issue is accurate, but it is going to take more work than it *should* for you to convince BellSouth of that, I'm afraid. Wow, thanks for the great information, Perry! All I can say is, it's too bad that you still don't work at BellSouth! Because then, maybe I could get this handled pretty quickly. :) But you've made me change direction, that's for sure. There's no way I want to go through all that. I just don't have the temperament for it. I'd probably even cause an international incident. So I'm going to opt for Plan C (C for chicken) - i.e., I'm going wait and see what happens next. I can live with this one party not being able to receive mail from me from The Bat. I can use webmail, Google Mail, etc. I also talked with a friend at the company, and she told me that they were having a few propblems with their e-mail, but she wasn't sure what they were. Some intra-company mail was getting bounced, too. So maybe this will be a one-off situation, or it will heal thyself over time, and I won't need to speak with anyone in Manila, etc. If I get another e-mail bounced by someone else, I'll try your track. Maybe after I take some Prozac. *Lots* of Prozac. Again, thanks for all the great information! I sure learned a lot of new stuff! Kindest regards, -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/26/06, Benedict Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Joe, Thursday, October 26, 2006, 4:45:10 PM, Joe wrotened: But I'm taking the cowards way out this time. Well if you can live with the problem i guess thats ok then. Again, I don't really know yet what the extent of the problem is. It's only happened with one company. So far. I don't normally send e-mail to companies (which are more prone to retain the services of companies like SORB, etc.), so it may never happen to me again. And I've got a work-around for that company that's pretty easy to use. So...I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best. Cuz I'm a chicken. :) Anyway, thanks again for all the information! -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/25/06, Leif Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joe, Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 2:29:36 PM, you wrote: I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does that mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I guess) as a spammer? And that the business that's all-of-a-sudden started to bounce my e-mails (though I still get messages *from* them!) is using those lists to bounce suspected spamming domains? Yep, they are classifying the IP listed in the error you received as a spammer friendly IP address. If you're not running your own SMTP, then this is most likely the IP address for your ISP SMTP server. Okay. That's what others think, too. It's most likely not even remotely your fault, but it impacts you heavily because it's an IP that you need to use to send mail. I'd talk to your ISP. Any prediction as to what they'll say? -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/25/06, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joe, Frankly, I'm not sure. I just assumed that it was mine (isn't every computer assigned an IP number?) because it's the one mentioned in the error message. I'll have to do some research and get back to you on that one. No, it is not your IP address. Even if it was, you said you are not running your own SMPT server so there is no way you could send e-mail directly without going through the BellSouth SMPT servers. So...there's no reason for me to find it. Just call BellSouth and see what they have to say? Any ideas as to which tack they'll take? E.g., there's nothing they can do about it. Offer to change my IP to another, with no guarantee that it won't have similar problems? The IP is for one of Bellsouth's servers. If you go to www.dnsstuff.com and do a Reverse DNS Lookup you will see it is the IP address for imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net host, and if you enter the IP in the Spam database lookup and scroll the results page down you will see (highlighted in red) that the IP (or host) is blacklisted by SORBS. This this is the reason your email is being rejected. You should talk to Bellsouth. Per what I said above, what do you think they'll say? Or offer to do? Is there nothing to be gained by contacting SORBS, et al? Again, thanks for the help! -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
Remember, the above is simplified and speculative. My psychic powers have been working recently, but they could have stopped. :-) Carnak...er...Chris, to further challenge your psychic powers, how do you think BellSouth will respond? Tell me to take a hike? Offer to issue me a new IP, with no guarantee that it'll be any better? Tell me to contact SORBS, et. al? What? :) -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
**A business with which I've successfully corresponded with several times in the past has started to reject by e-mails. I always get the same error message. Anyone have any ideas as to why my e-mail is supposedly (and suddenly) being interpreted as a spam site? Thanks! Beginning of error message: .net 007: This e-mail message was undeliverable due to the following reason: .net 018: Each of the following recipients were rejected by a destination mail system. Note: The reasons given by the destination mail system are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Solution: Attempt to resend, or contact the recipient by alternate means to let them know about the issue. Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:5.2.1 Mail from XXX.152.59.66 refused: spam site. Note: I substituted the Xs myself. -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/24/06, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joe everyone else, on 24-Okt-2006 at 20:47 you (Joe) wrote: **A business with which I've successfully corresponded with several times in the past has started to reject by e-mails. I always get the same error message. Anyone have any ideas as to why my e-mail is supposedly (and suddenly) being interpreted as a spam site? Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:5.2.1 Mail from XXX.152.59.66 refused: spam site. Note: I substituted the Xs myself. Since this is a purely IP based refusal it would be interesting to know the complete IP address. :-} This is the full IP: 205.152.59.66. But I'm confused. Are you saying that someone has classified *me* as a spammer??? How can that be? Are you sure they are (whoever in fact they are) not picking up The Bat as a reputed spam *program*? I think I remember reading about something like that in the past, and it had to do with something in the X-Mailer header being picked up? In my Preferences, I have no check mark in the Use X-Mailer box. Could that be it (although I haven't made any changes recently). I've been able to send messages to this domain (and vice versa) as recently as last week, and had no problems whatsoever. -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/24/06, Leif Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alexander, Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 1:29:01 PM, you wrote: Since this is a purely IP based refusal it would be interesting to know the complete IP address. :-} Agreed, and just for clarification to the OP, it has nothing to do with The Bat! based on the error message. It's all about your IP address. Joe... Are you running your own SMTP server? No sir. I just have a (BellSouth) DSL connection. And a Wi-Fi router. That's it. I have two computers; a desktop and a laptop. I wouldn't know an SMTP server from a sausage pizza. -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/24/06, Leif Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joe, Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 1:54:21 PM, you wrote: This is the full IP: 205.152.59.66. But I'm confused. Are you saying that someone has classified *me* as a spammer??? How can that be? Yep.. Try putting your IP address in at: http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr It's listed in at least three. Someone could have been faking the IP address they came from (IP spoofing), they could have been there for a while (in the RBL lists) but the mail administrators only recently started using DNSbl lists on your recipients end. etc.. Could be a lot of reasons. I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does that mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I guess) as a spammer? And that the business that's all-of-a-sudden started to bounce my e-mails (though I still get messages *from* them!) is using those lists to bounce suspected spamming domains? If that's all true, how do I get myself off those lists??? I'm no spammer. I HATE SPAMMERS! I send out a few e-mails a week, containing mostly jokes, to several dozen friends (who also send me the same kind of stuff), and the names are all BCC'd. Could that be what these lists are picking up? There's no way that any of these people would report me to anyone, even if they knew whom to report me to, which I can guarantee you they do not. Are you sure they are (whoever in fact they are) not picking up The Bat as a reputed spam *program*? 1. The error is specifically related to IP, not to MUA (Mail User Agent). Okay. 2. You yourself state you aren't using the X-mailer header. I don't see the X-mailer header in the messages you sent to the list, so there's no way for the recipient to determine you're using The Bat. They might label you a spammer because you don't have an X-mailer header, but that isn't the case here. That's probably because I'm sending this message to tbudl from Google Mail, not from The Bat. That's who I use for sending/receiving (and storing!) all my tbudl messages. I've been able to send messages to this domain (and vice versa) as recently as last week, and had no problems whatsoever. Like I said, the mail admins for the recipients might have just started using DNSbl. It happens all the time. We have a system here at work called CityWatch which send out mass e-mail in case of emergency. In the past few months we've started getting more and more rejections (mainly for a bad reverse lookup). What exactly is a bad reverse lookup? And what were you able to do about being DE-listed? Thanks for the help! -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/24/06, Leif Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joe, Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 2:00:04 PM, you wrote: SMTP server from a sausage pizza. Easy.. Sausage pizza: Yummy and edible.. SMTP Server: Not edible, but the SPAM might be! grin Boo! Hiss! :) -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?
On 10/24/06, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Joe everyone else, on 24-Okt-2006 at 22:29 you (Joe) wrote: I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does that mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I guess) as a spammer? Erm... we have to clarify this as it is very important. Is this *your* IP adress, or the IP address of a Bellsouth mail server? Frankly, I'm not sure. I just assumed that it was mine (isn't every computer assigned an IP number?) because it's the one mentioned in the error message. I'll have to do some research and get back to you on that one. Thanks again for walking me through this! What SMTP (outgoing) server are you using in the account settings of TB for that account? mail.bellsouth.net -- Joe Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is The Bat spying on me?
I recently purchased a new computer. After installing Trend Micro Systems Anti-Spyware program, and running a full system scan, it was recommended (by the progam) that I delete certain high-risk programs that were detected on my hard drive. Upon agreeing to the deletions (there were about 6, I think), The Bat would no longer open. I went back and restored all the programs, and The Bat miraculously began to function normally again. I repeated this process several times, just to make sure, then I narrowed it down to just one program that was doing the damage. It was named Spyware_Trak_PWStealer. So my question is, why does The Bat have to spy on me? -- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is The Bat spying on me?
A false positive normally connotes imprecise calibration. What's imprecise here? The details on the culprit (found in the Registry) read: HKU\S-1-5-21-3126995848-1559877500-2177672217-1005-SOFTWARE\RIT\THEBAT!\ Why would Trend mistake only The Bat! (out of all the other programs on my computer) as spyware? I've added this item to the Trend whitelist, and The Bat! runs just fine now. However, I'm still uncomfortable with the idea that The Bat! may be spying on me. Could someone please try to do a better job of comforting me? Maybe it's not Trend's problem? Couldn't it be something that The Bat! is doing, that it shouldn't be doing? On 6/28/06, Jernej Simonèiè [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, 18:43:44, Joe wrote: So my question is, why does The Bat have to spy on me? Because somebody at TrendMicro didn't do his homework. It's called a false positive, and it's nothing unusual with modern anti-spyware programs. -- Jernej Simonèiè http://deepthought.ena.si/ Industry always moves in to fill an economic vacuum. -- Tuccille's First Law of Reality Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Joe Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is The Bat spying on me?
[] A false positive does not mean that at all. False as in wrong, bad or incorrect. Positive as in passed test or (in this case) detection. It is an incorrect detection. Trend has fouled up. Badly. In the real world Trend would be sued for defamation, but in the soft world there is no such thing. A shame. (Not quite where you got imprecise calibration as a definition there). I'm a molecular biologist. For example, when you falsely test positive for a certain virus, it's usually because of the way the test (e.g., ELISA, Western Blot, etc.) was calibrated. It's apparently a bad analogy to my problem. J The details on the culprit (found in the Registry) read: J HKU\S-1-5-21-3126995848-1559877500-2177672217-1005-SOFTWARE\RIT\THEBAT!\ Perfect. The registry key TB uses for its own private GUID. Why on earth should Trend take any notice? The only spying going on here is by Trend. Having and using a registry key for configuration and setup data is certainly no indication of malware. Yes, some malware uses the registry. So does a lot of other (probably most) software. Some joker has told trend that this registry key is an indication of malware infection. Tosh. I'll contact Trend tomorrow and see what they have to say. J However, I'm still uncomfortable with the idea that The Bat! may be J spying on me. Your discomfort is entirely unnecessary. The Bat! does not spy. Never has. Never will. Nor does The Bat! collaborate with spies and goes out of its way to ensure it never will. Trend has alarmed you for no reason whatsoever. Okay. Thanks for the feedback. I hope that you are suitably reassured by this. I do recommend that you now contact Trend and make twice the amount of noise there as you have here, since the fault is all theirs. You can even copy the text of this message to them if you feel it may help. At least their support service is getting paid to offer advice, unlike us poor souls here! I didn't know that my voicing of my concern here (with just *one* post) would be considered noise. I'll try to be more quiet the next time. Maybe less than 4-5 words. PS: I apologize for the previous top posting. I'm forced to use my web-based Google Mail account for the the time being, and Google makes it easy to do things wrong. PPS: To everyone else who offered help and reassurances...please accept my thanks! It was much appreciated. -- Joe Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Memory Consumption
Monday, May 16, 2005, 6:58:20 AM, you wrote: Hello , TB! has been running for about 14 hours or so: thebat.exe Mem Usage: 83,372K Peak Mem Usage: 95,692 VM Size: 76,108K Upon exiting and restarting, Mem Usage is 27,135K Anyone else seeing the sort of Mem Usage growth that I'm seeing here? I'm using no plug-ins at all but am using IMAP, of course. Confirmed here. Starts at about 27meg. Running for two days it is now at 172 meg. Could this be normal? Maybe we need to let it run for a week to see if it continues to grow? -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV's
Hello, Not sure if this got lost, so here we go again.. I am getting AV's with 3.0 and the latest GA version and the latest beta and all the RC. All I have to do is click on the Folder Maintenance manager and bamm... AV... Am I the only one having this problem See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3901 Also, the bug is in feedback status. what does that mean? Are they expecting something from me? IF so, what? They did not indicate anything in a note... Thanks for the help Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.7.3 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVs when clicking on Folder Maintenance [was Re: AV's]
Hello Mary, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 12:54:07 PM, you wrote: Hello Joe! On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 11:31 AM, you wrote: MB Did you not see my reply to you here yesterday? ... J Sorry, No... I did not see your reply. Everytime I get the AV, J it doesn't go away and I have to kill TB. I then loose some mail, J and sometimes folders like my bat list folders. It's real J frustrating. ... I know that it is. I really want to get some help for you. Hi, thanks for the response. I did write to them. Waiting for response. I have many machines. I installed TB on three. One is win2k sp4, Others are xp, sp2 and sp1. All 3 fail the same way. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV's
Hello, I am running the latest released version of TB. I am still getting AV's all over the place. I have a bug entered but the bug is in Feedback: status which I don't understand. If they want feedback, they need to ask me what it is they want. I can give them whatever they want. the just need to ask. I know a lot of people are using TB with no problems, but this AV is driving me crazy. Anyone else getting AV's. I can recreate this problem at will. All I have to do is open the Maintenance Manager and, bam, AV. After that TB becomes unstable. A look at the log shows AV happening all day. I can't believe I am the only one having this problem. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.7.3 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
exception on startup
Hello, Using 3.0.0.8. I can't get any release above this to start. Keep getting exceptions on startup. Does not get past the splash screen. I created a bug and was told this was fixed in Bayesit. I am not using that version, I am using bayes filter. I was also instructed to remove all plugins from my tbplugin.ini file. I did.. Still no help. All versions from 3.0.0.8 down work OK. All version above 3.0.0.8 do not, even the RC1. Any ideas what changes between 3.0.0.8 and the next releases are causing this? Since a lot of people are running these later versions with no problems, is it possible something in my configuration is causing the problem? Any ideas what it might be or steps I can take to help isolate the problem? Thanks... Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to filter such a message?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:41:02 AM, you wrote: Hallo Thorvald, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:29:22 +0200GMT (29-9-2004, 13:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Header matches Subject:\s*\n TN Wouldn't \s*\n also catch Here begins the subject\n? I meant to search in headers (not in subject) for the condition Subject:\s*\n and that won't be triggered by your example. Of course it would be triggered by something like this: Subject: Why do we use the header Subject: But when you've got a contact who is so clueless that he uses no From: header (remember our first condition) and ends his subject with a colon, then he deserves no better than being caught by your spamfilter. ;-) I know this is most likely not the best way to do this, but this filter worked for me... Sender contains none of @ AND Recipient contains none of @ AND Subject contains none of a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z This works OK... might be better to us a regular expression in the Subject to get all upper and lower case and special chars. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging with IMAP
Hello Mean, Monday, September 27, 2004, 4:57:29 PM, you wrote: Hello, Somehow I think there is a problem with IMAP folders. Using TB 3.0. What happens is that the messages that I delete locally move to trash but even though I empty trash, the messages on server do not get purged. How do I purge all messages on server using TB? Check -- Accounts -- properties -- mail management - Make sure message management is set to delete messages from server after removed from trash. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Complete Automatically Case sentitive
Hello, On a new message when I enter a name it does an auto complete from my address book. This is cool, problem is it is case sensitive. If I have an entry of Andy and I type andy it does not auto fill. Is there a way to make this case insensitive? Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: V3 : yes or not in a few words...
Hello aceman, Monday, September 20, 2004, 9:54:28 AM, you wrote: Is it good idea in 2 words to install V3 or not ? I don't need policy ideas or financial opinions. I don't reopen the Ritlabs policy topic. Just a question of using V3 vs V2 in features and stability terms. No. I don't have any experience with v2, however, I will say that V3 is not stable, at lease for me. I have tried to install the latest betas 1, 14, 15 and all crash on startup for me. 3.0.0.8 is the version of v3 that works for me. I love all the features and just can't see myself going back to thunderbird or outlook, however, I do hope they get this thing stabilized soon. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with BayesIt! 0.6.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIt! upgrade
Hello, I am having a crash about twice a day and was told the problem is with BayesIt! 0.6.00. I was also told that the problem is fixed in 0.6.4. Where/how can I get the upgrade to BayesIt? Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: V3: yes or not in a few words...
Hello Joseph, Monday, September 20, 2004, 10:42:19 AM, you wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:34:06 GMT, Joe wrote: I have had no stability problems. The post-release Beta, which is not really appropriate for discussion on this list, is working fine for me, and my CPU is old and slow, although there's plenty of memory available. I think my problems are related to BayesIt. TheBat itself seems to be OK, but is useless for me without the spam support. So, if they can get BayesIt fixed, I will say it is more stable, however, for me... v3 base will not stay up at all and I was instructed by support to run with 3.0.0.8 which is stable without BayesIt. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with BayesIt! 0.6.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: V3: yes or not in a few words...
Hello Marck, Monday, September 20, 2004, 11:11:40 AM, you wrote: I run with BayesFilter v1.5.4 by Achim Winkler. It's very good. Very stable. http://www.lkcc.org/achim OK, I am a little confused with the release numbers. The version that comes with TB is 0.6.00 and you are using 1.5.4, and TB bug system says 0.6.4 is the latest. Hence my confusion. However, I did take your suggestion and downloaded 1.5.4, installed and trained. No problem so far. Time will tell. Thanks... -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorry...correction about filter
Hello Mean, -- Friday, September 17, 2004, 3:28:39 PM, you wrote: Sorry...I checked my inbox again and found that the large mail of 3.7 MB had been downloaded and was lying in my inbox. So the filter did not work at all. Filter is setup as: Message size Greater than 800KB Action Delete Message from server, and play a sound I got the sound and still the message is in my inbox...not deleted from server. Is the filter under Selective Download??? -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters - rearranging
Hello, I some noce filters build. I have to make some changes to them for various reasons. The one change is just to insert an AND in the mix. It seems I can only append. I can't insert or rearrange. Am I missing something. Most filters have Move Up and Move Down buttons. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP
Hello, Why does the IMAP task stay in the connection manager even after sync is complete. IT seem like a new sync will not take place until I abort that task, then a new sync is done OK, however, the task is left in the connection manager again. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters - rearranging
Hello Roelof, -- Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 3:54:02 PM, you wrote: Hallo Joe, On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:53:30 -0400GMT (14-9-2004, 20:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: J I some noce filters build. I have to make some changes to them for J various reasons. The one change is just to insert an AND in the J mix. It seems I can only append. I can't insert or rearrange. Am I J missing something. Most filters have Move Up and Move Down J buttons. You can place your filter at your preferred position by selecting the filter and move it with Crtl-Up or Ctrl-Down Yes, this works great to move the complete filter up or down the list of filters. I want to rearrange the filter itself. For example: I have a filter that has a block. In that block is an AND and an OR. I want to move the OR up before the block and maybe insert another OR. I have to delete the whole filter and start over. I can't insert, only append. Am I missing something? -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail chat
Hello, Anyone get the Mail Chat feature to work. I can't seem to find any documentation. Does the person on the other end also have to be using TB Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
baysesit 0.6.00
Hello, I installed theBat V3 which comes with bayesit 0.6.00. I am getting bat crashes and have created an bug, however, the bug was updated with a note that the problem: This is bug in bayesIt version 0.6.0 or higher... So, where do I go for support on this? How do I get an update to bayesit with this problem fixed? Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: baysesit 0.6.00
Hello Prezes, -- Sunday, September 12, 2004, 12:18:27 PM, you wrote: J So, where do I go for support on this? How do I get an update to J bayesit with this problem fixed? Please downgrade do BayesIt 0.5.11 - it works quite well. The newest update 0.6.2 works as same as 0.6.0, so downgrade is the best solution for our problem. Sounds like a good idea. Where can I get 0.5.11 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Obtaining Latest Release
Hello, How do I get the latest releases. I noticed that it's up to 3.0.0.11. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Virtual folder - Source Folder
Hello, Is there a way to tell what folder the message is really in when you use a virtual folder? Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Virtual folder - Source Folder
Hello Michael, -- Friday, September 10, 2004, 12:17:51 PM, you wrote: Hi Joe and list, On Friday, September 10, 2004 at 11:58:53 GMT -0400 (which was 17:58 where I live) Joe wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Virtual folder - Source Folder: Yes. You can select a view mode for the VF in which you include the column folder. Daa!!! How stupid of me. I didn't even check the columns. Thanks.. -- Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ritlab feedback email: does it work?
Hello Bill, I had a problem with thebat crashing about 5 times a day. I sent in a request and they responded right away with an updated version, 3.0.0.0.8, which still did not fix the problem completely, although the frequency is much less, maybe once a day now. I have sent many other requests for service and have yet to receive a response. I guess with the release of v3 that are very busy so I will just wait and hope they respond. My biggest problem is I have paid for the software and have not received the serial/registration number yet, so since I love theBat, and don't want the trial to expire, I am a little worried that it will expire and I will not have my registration number in time and lose all my configuration and saved e-mail. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe -- Thursday, September 9, 2004, 2:51:33 PM, you wrote: On Thu 9-Sep-04 10:52am -0400, WL wrote: Hello, all. I've sent some bug reports, as well as requests for information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the Help - feedback email). I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? I just checked my Sent Mail folder. I sent my last request to info-enu on 5-Sep-04 at around 4pm and an excellent response was received at around 1am the next day. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello, I am having a problem using the junk controls. I have the bayeslt plugin installed. If I set the threshold to 99 all e-mail comes in OK as NOT junk. If I set it to 98 most all e-mail comes in as junk except the ones I has set in the white list. Also, even if I manually set the email to NOT Junk it still is considered junk unless I set the threshold to 99. What am I doing wrong. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Invalid
Hello, Some times when viewing an email, I get an error from the bat that says TheBat exception, email contains invalid html, please send this the bat developers. Any idea what is causing this? I have sent this info to the bat developers, however, I have never received a response from them so I am trying the list. thanks... Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pick email-addresses oddity
Hello Lawrence, I see them also... I sent a bug request in. Have not received an answer yet. Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe -- Thursday, September 9, 2004, 3:43:44 PM, you wrote: On the Pick email-addresseses window, where I expect to see left and right arrows for moving addresses into the TO, CC and BCC display areas, I am seeing some strange buttons. Going down they read 4, 44, 3, 33, r and s respectively. Am I alone in seeing these labels? What could be the problem? I am running TB 3.0. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Re: Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello, Additional info. Here is my log and advanced.ini. Why does it always say Value for TheBat = 99 or 1. It seems to always be 1 or 99, never in between. working thread priority=2 onexit thread priority=3 selective download spam threshold=10 export selective download=1 simple digits spam marks=1 no spaces spam marks=1 limit size to hash=19 limit size to hash header=96 temporary dictionary=c:\\temp use expiration=0 age to expirate=100 learn from zero=1 max size of log file=131072 recalculating strategy=3 regarding threshold=1.5 use autotrain=1 use degeneration=1 number of exclamations=5 log current process=1 log global state=1 log grades=1 filter is logged=1 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.01 Ladies: 0.01 cfm?orderIDOnly: 0.01 Instructions: 0.0115987 tiptopshoes: 0.01 Visa: 0.01 Same: 0.01 Priority: 0.01 7.5: 0.01 USPS: 0.01 Bill: 0.01 Leather: 0.01 Quantity: 0.0129618 billed: 0.01 Munro: 0.01 : --- 09.09.2004 15:13:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1.23454e-042 Spam-grade: 1.23454e-042 Value for The Bat!: 1 Used enhanced evaluation with number of tokens: 23 : --- H Shoes: 0.01 Leather: 0.01 Munro: 0.01 0939: 0.01 1-800-WALKING: 0.01 712: 0.01 10023: 0.01 Priority: 0.01 Ladies: 0.01 72nd: 0.01 Bill: 0.01 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.01 H Tip: 0.01 7.5: 0.01 4960: 0.01 Same: 0.01 Shoes: 0.01 TipTopShoes: 0.01 USPS: 0.01 Visa: 0.01 billed: 0.01 ending: 0.01 is: 0.99 : --- 09.09.2004 15:23:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1.05155e-010 Spam-grade: 1.05155e-010 Value for The Bat!: 1 Used enhanced evaluation with number of tokens: 27 : --- NOW: 0.99 #0066cc: 0.01 Favorite: 0.99 598: 0.01 Cheer: 0.99 3869: 0.01 akamai: 0.01 10%!: 0.01 6h: 0.01 Need: 0.99 a80.g: 0.01 Same: 0.01 Bouquet: 0.01 Barton: 0.01 FTD: 0.01 available!: 0.99 bottom: 0.99 bouquet: 0.01 discount6: 0.01 epl?product_id: 0.01 font: 0.99 ftd: 0.01 is: 0.99 myaccount: 0.01 product: 0.99 retail: 0.99 week: 0.99 : --- 09.09.2004 15:24:04 Beginning the loading process of training information. 09.09.2004 15:24:04 Recalculating bases from here: 09.09.2004 15:24:04 C:\TheBatMail\bayesit\base\spamdict.bye 09.09.2004 15:24:04 C:\TheBatMail\bayesit\base\nspamdict.bye 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Spam frequency dictionary: 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Size: 1522 letters. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Capacity: 61280 words. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Non-spam frequency dictionary: 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Size: 789 letters. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Capacity: 24135 words. 09.09.2004 15:24:05 Training information successfully read. 09.09.2004 15:28:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:38:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 5.88687e-026 Spam-grade: 5.88687e-026 Value for The Bat!: 1 : --- USPS: 0.01 Quantity: 0.0129702 Same: 0.01 Description: 0.0129702 UPS: 0.0145952 Ground: 0.0153582 ct: 0.99 Priority: 0.01 billed: 0.01 6.00: 0.01 AVS: 0.0115795 Adidas: 0.01 Bill: 0.01 Instructions: 0.0116045 digits: 0.01 : --- 09.09.2004 15:38:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:38:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:43:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 Value for The Bat!: 99 Used enhanced evaluation with number of tokens: 44 : --- H ftdi: 0.01 $5: 0.99 $5!: 0.99 H Messaging: 0.99 6h: 0.01 Bouquet: 0.01 br: 0.99 Enter: 0.99 135: 0.99 Charge: 0.99 H Confirmation: 0.99 FTD: 0.01 350: 0.99 Bouquet!: 0.01 500px: 0.01 SUNexternal: 0.01 Save: 0.99 Sunburst: 0.01 VISA: 0.01 a80.g: 0.01 akamai: 0.01 bouquet: 0.01 br: 0.99 catalog: 0.01 conf: 0.99 contest: 0.99 custserv: 0.01 dollars: 0.99 font: 0.99 ftd: 0.01 is: 0.99 noshade: 0.99 person: 0.99 place: 0.99 plus: 0.99 product: 0.99 products: 0.99 safe: 0.99 scanned: 0.99 tr: 0.99 true: 0.99 win: 0.99 win!: 0.99 : 0.99 : --- 09.09.2004 15:43:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matches to the whitelist: thebatlist 09.09.2004 15:48:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 Value for The Bat!: 99 : --- Lev: 0.99 Proxac: 0.99 H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0.99 more?: 0.99 H Fri: 0.99 0rderdrugs: 0.989843 129: 0.99 3: 0.952049 3O: 0.99 ?jpeg: 0.99 H Miss: 0.99 l39: 0.99 69: 0.99 tra: 0.99 size: 0.0218509 : --- 09.09.2004 15:48:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 Value for The Bat!: 99 : --- Proxac: 0.99 size: 0.0218509 H Fri: 0.99 l39: 0.99 H Ms: 0.99 0rderdrugs: 0.989843 129: 0.99 3: 0.952049 3O: 0.99 ?jpeg: 0.99 H re: 0.956744 more?: 0.99 69: 0.99 tra: 0.99 Lev: 0.99 :
registration code
Thursday, September 9, 2004, 5:52:17 PM, you wrote: I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? No, since 1.6x. Ok, So if the e-mail addresses from the help menu are not valid anymore, where do we send requests for help or information. I have not received my registration number yet and I purchased thebat three days ago. No one is responding to the e-mail addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I am a little worried that I will never receive it. Any one got any ideas how I can get in touch with someone at TheBat that can help? Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Best regards, Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: Re: Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello Zeynel, The spam score settings seems useless for BayesIt, I've never seen a 75 scored message, too. Did you feed BayesIt with many of junk and non-junk mails by classifying them? How do I do that. Where is the documentation for Version 3 of TheBat using version 0.06.00 of bayesit that explains how to do this. I have a folder with thousands of real junk. How do I clear out bayesit and start it from scratch using these e-mails? Thanks Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blind Copy Header
At 04/03/14 07:36 , Peter Meyns wrote: Hi jaj, on Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:41:57 -0600GMT, you wrote: jsc However, it *would* be very nice to be notified of _received_ messages jsc which do not contain the recipient's address in the obvious (and jsc visible) places [To: Cc:]. You could filter on Your address not present in Recipient and assign a colour group or flag the message or choose another action. Of course, this would catch newsletters addressed to something like All members too. Peter, you're right. Thanks for pointing that out :-). -- Just Another Joe Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 2.03.06 destroying inmail folders
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TB 2.03.06 destroying inmail folders Hello all. I agree 102% although it did it once, once was enough. After updating to TB 2.03.06, it read in all the EMail accounts I use under it -- five at this stage -- and as I went to Compress the most vital one, that had about 145 messages archived in it from last tear, an account that has since been closed -- TB promptly destroyed that EMail folder / account EMail database totally. I can see the headers, but nothing else works. Looking at the actual destroyed EMail file, I can see that all the EMail is there, but I can't see it to save individual messages, can't TB read any of it, can't TB export it, can't TB export any part of it. Looking at the file with ANOTHER PC on my LAN, that has an older TB version, it too can't do anything with it, either. So, I am left with utter destruction, although I am careful to not wipe that file, in the hope and prayer that it can be saved yet. What to do? That file is utterly critical, it contains vital archived EMail. In my humble opinion, BEFORE doing any such file operations, TB should FIRST backup said file, even as a temp file on the users HD. THEN TB can operate on what's in memory, with, of course, the option to use / bring in the backed-up file should anything happen to the file being TB operated on. This is a terrible situation, and likely only until the root cause is found, but what IF the now destroyed file can't be saved? What am I to do? Joe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 2.03.06 destroying inmail folders
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TB 2.03.06 destroying inmail folders Hello all. I agree 102% although it did it once, once was enough. After updating to TB 2.03.06, it read in all the EMail accounts I use under it -- five at this stage -- and as I went to Compress the most vital one, that had about 145 messages archived in it from last tear, an account that has since been closed -- TB promptly destroyed that EMail folder / account EMail database totally. I can see the headers, but nothing else works. Looking at the actual destroyed EMail file, I can see that all the EMail is there, but I can't see it to save individual messages, can't TB read any of it, can't TB export it, can't TB export any part of it. Looking at the file with ANOTHER PC on my LAN, that has an older TB version, it too can't do anything with it, either. So, I am left with utter destruction, although I am careful to not wipe that file, in the hope and prayer that it can be saved yet. What to do? That file is utterly critical, it contains vital archived EMail. In my humble opinion, BEFORE doing any such file operations, TB should FIRST backup said file, even as a temp file on the users HD. THEN TB can operate on what's in memory, with, of course, the option to use / bring in the backed-up file should anything happen to the file being TB operated on. This is a terrible situation, and likely only until the root cause is found, but what IF the now destroyed file can't be saved? What am I to do? Joe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keeping the attachments in a folder, for some mails.
How do I unsubscribe from this list please. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
direct link to MSAA
RE: I know this was posted before, but do you have the direct link to MSAA handy? http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/nhp/Default.asp?contentid=28000544 http://www.microsoft.com/enable/guides/ http://www.microsoft.com/winlogo/accessibility/default.mspx Joe Joe Rotello / Founder / WindowGroup / Kodak, TN / USA / Voice: (865) 932-0041, ICQ 1509199 / Since 1970 Technology Translators / Trainers / Consultants / Electronic Publishers / Web and Video Publications / WWW.MHUSER.COM / www.windowgroup.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Direct link to MSAA
Resend of earlier Email -- this one is in Text Only mode. Joe RE: I know this was posted before, but do you have the direct link to MSAA handy? http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/nhp/Default.asp?contentid=28000544 http://www.microsoft.com/enable/guides/ http://www.microsoft.com/winlogo/accessibility/default.mspx Joe Joe Rotello / Founder / WindowGroup / Kodak, TN / USA / Voice: (865) 932-0041, ICQ 1509199 / Since 1970 Technology Translators / Trainers / Consultants / Electronic Publishers / Web and Video Publications / WWW.MHUSER.COM / www.windowgroup.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
List index out of bounds? - SOS
Hi TB! users, I just upgraded to v2.0 but was depressed to find this error: List index out of bounds The error occurs everytime I fetch the emails from POP server. After receiving the last email's header, a warning window pops up showing this annoying message.:( Can somebody our there help me please? I like the new version but if this error can't be fixed, I'll have to stick to v1.62r which I'm using now. Anticipating being instructed. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can TB works in Linux OS?
Dear TB users, I recently installed RedHat Linux on my machine and I wanna know if TB! can work there. If not, is there any plan for approaching this? Thanks. :) -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can TB works in Linux OS?
Hi DG, On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, at 13:25:19 [GMT -0400] (which was 1:25 where I live) you wrote: DRS Maybe under Wine? http://www.winehq.com/ Thanks for enlightenment! I'll give it a try. :) -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Gentlemen... With out combined 33+ years in the industry, Beta and field testing since 1984, and our ability to research, edit and produce articles for worldwide and localized readers (newspapers, Web news and information sites), may we be able to apply for Beta testing and product review privileges on the long-rumored The Bat 2.0 version? Beta testing now, and of course, we would be happy to work with you to properly time articles and reviews, and our recommendations. Although we are happy to detail what may be needed in Email, our main Web site is at www.windowgroup.com [details are at www.windowgroup.com/wg ], and we are also quite experienced in performing to both simple trust agreements and/or non-disclosure agreements as is necessary. Looking forward to your reply, Warmest regards Joe Rotello Founder Joe Rotello / Founder / WindowGroup / Kodak, TN / USA / Voice: (865) 932-0041, ICQ 1509199 / Since 1970 Technology Translators / Trainers / Consultants / Electronic Publishers / Web and Video Publications / WWW.MHUSER.COM / www.windowgroup.com Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: iPac Sync
Hi Ricardo, RM Hi Ricardo: RvE I just heard that everyone at our company is getting an Compaq iPaq RvE 1915. Main reason of course, so we all can sync our e-mail and RvE agenda/appointments with our laptops and so on. But I'm one of few RvE who's not using LookOut. Does anyone know if its possible to sync RvE with The Bat!? Plugings, third party software, what ever... The RvE iPaq runs Windows CE. RM I have not heard/confirmed the possibility to sync theBat! with RM PocketPC's. RM I have heard of the ability to sync theBat! with Palm Software (see RM threads on 8/11 and 8/13). However, one concern for Palm Users was the RM inability to sync to folders other than the Inbox. Given that one of RM theBat!'s main features is filtering e-mails to folders, the inability RM sync particular folders was a great disappointment. (A bat newbie tries his wings) - I'm not using a Palm - but I think this might help. If the sync to the Inbox folder will move the message from the Palm to the Inbox folder on the PC, then you can easy re-filter the Inbox on the PC (right click on the Inbox and select 'Re-filter Messages' ) RM There are several other Bat! users who want/need this functionality to RM sync theBat! mails with PocketPc's. Every so often I do a Google RM search to see if someone has worked on this a project that would sync RM theBat! with PocketPCs. So far, no luck. If and when I come across any RM info, I will post it. Let us know if you come across any solutions. RM - Ricardo RM Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 RM Service Pack 1 RM RM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: RM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Joemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: mailto problem
Hi Allie, Sunday, August 24, 2003, 6:02:58 AM, you wrote: AM Craig Westerman, [CW] wrote: CW Every time I click on a e-mail link on a web page, exactly 50 new CW browser windows are opened in just a few seconds. I'm using MSIE 5 CW on Win2000 Pro SP3. AM Try the following: AM Go into MSIE internet options. Under the Programs tab, change the AM E-mail client to Outlook Express and hit apply, then Ok. Reopen the AM Internet options and change the default e-mail client back from Outlook AM Express to TB!, hit apply then Ok. AM That above routine solved the problem for me. Worked for me too - Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You,... -- Best regards, Joemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to Send w/o Confirmation Dialog Box
I'm new to TB - I've been an Eudora user for years - then it started crashing - So I'm looking for a stable replacement. I like what I've seen so far. I have a couple of questions 1. Is there a way to send a message without getting the confirmation dialog box? (The confirmation dialog box being that dialog box that makes sure you want to send the email.) It may seem like a small thing - but it's the small things that add up. :) 2. Is there a way to make the 'Edit Mail Message' window come up at a size that does not require horizontal scrolling? Again - it's a nuisance to have to resize the window to keep from scrolling. Thanks for helping a newbie, -- Best regards, Joe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering on Date, Focus in Mailbox
I'm back with a couple of questions. 1. I want to filter on date. For example - filter all the messages received in 2000 into a folder called 2000. I tried setting strings to 2000 and location to kludges and to anywhere. That did not seem to work. 2. When I select a Mail Folder to see the messages in, what determines which message get the focus? It would be nice if the first unread message would get the focus. Thanks again. -- Best regards, Joe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to Send w/o Confirmation Dialog Box
Hello Joe, Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 9:38:47 AM, you wrote: JC I'm new to TB - I've been an Eudora user for years - then it started JC crashing - So I'm looking for a stable replacement. I like what I've JC seen so far. I have a couple of questions JC 1. Is there a way to send a message without getting the confirmation JC dialog box? (The confirmation dialog box being that dialog box that JC makes sure you want to send the email.) It may seem like a small thing JC - but it's the small things that add up. :) I'll answer one of my own questions. Go to Account-Properties-Options. Un-select the 'Confirm Immediate Sending' Checkbox. JC 2. Is there a way to make the 'Edit Mail Message' window come up at a JC size that does not require horizontal scrolling? Again - it's a JC nuisance to have to resize the window to keep from scrolling. JC Thanks for helping a newbie, -- Best regards, Joemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: How to Send w/o Confirmation Dialog Box
Hello Dave, Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 9:51:46 AM, you wrote: DK Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 10:46:38 AM, Joe wrote: JC 2. Is there a way to make the 'Edit Mail Message' window JC come up at a size that does not require horizontal JC scrolling? Again - it's a nuisance to have to resize the JC window to keep from scrolling. DK My version, 1.62r, remembers the size of the window from the last DK time I used it. Resize once, remember forever! :) DK -- DK Dave Kennedy DK DK Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: DK http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Great - that seems to have done the trick. Thanks. -- Best regards, Joemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Received time should be rectified
Hi TB users, Recently I found a problem when using TB. We need to handle emails according to the time frame. Say, I will need to reply to the emails arrive at our mail server from 9am to 3pm, my workmate needs to reply from 3pm to 10pm. Since we are using the same mail server, if we can divide the emails by the time when they arrive at our mail server, that will be perfect. Unfortunately, TB doesn't support this feature. TB won't show the time when the email arrives at the POP3 server. There are two types of time listed in TB, Received and Created. Personally, I don't think that Received time is necessary since it just indicates the time when you download the emails from your POP3 server, thus, it only depends on your frequency of fetching emails from server. And the Created time is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out the email. What I concern most is we need a unique and precise ruler to divide the emails by time frame(I think we can use the time when the emails reach our POP3 server 'cuz that time is by all means the same for me and all my workmates), but apparently, TB doesn't cover this feature. This problem exists in both the current former version v1.62r, and the latest Beta 11 which I'm now using. I wonder if the current Received time could be rectified to the time when the emails arrive at the mail server. The Created time should remain. Thanks for the great work of TB programmers. I really love TB and that's why I want it to be the perfect. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Received time should be rectified
Hi Roelof, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, at 09:45:47 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:45 where I live) you wrote: RO you could check for new mail every minute, that way keeping the RO received time at the server and the client practically the same. Thanks. But I want it technically the same. RO However, since you're dividing the mailflow between two people, the RO best way to divide the mail would be to use the same mailbox at the RO server and when your shift is done let your TB logoff. That way the RO messages that you don't download are for your colleague. Actually there are in all five people...:(... They will all receive the emails sent to a specific mailbox, and they handle the emails by time frame. The biggest problem is that not all of my workmates are using TB, some are actually using OE(or Outlook), which could display the time when the emails arrive at our mail server. I've been trying to pursuade them to use TB, and two of the 5 are using TB now. The others just stick to the MS client. I really hope this problem could be fixed technically. Thanks anyway Roelof! :) -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with drag a msg as attachment with TB 1.63 Beta 11
Hi pals, I'm now using TB! v1.63 Beta/11, just noticed a problem with dragging a message into the editor window as attachment. If I choose the format as Plain Text(Windows), I can't drag a message directly to the editor window as attachment, but I can surely do it while choosing Plain Text(MicroEd). So, is this a design flaw, or just like that it can't be fixed - can do with MicroEd but can't with Windows? Anticipating being instructed. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Problem with drag a msg as attachment with TB 1.63 Beta 11
Hi Jonathan, On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, at 22:41:30 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:41 where I live) you wrote: JA Surely this should be to the beta list? Ah-Oh :) Seems I get in the wrong room. If I choose the format as Plain Text(Windows), I can't drag a message directly to the editor window as attachment, but I can surely do it while choosing Plain Text(MicroEd). JA I believe the Plain Text(Windows) part is a beta feature, and as such, JA still under development. I dare say they are working on enhancing on JA things. Thanks. I agree with you. So this can be fixed, just under development, right? :) BTW, another tiny problem for you, I noticed in the header of emails I sent, the mailer info shows The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/11), but usually it shows The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/11) Personal(like yours). I just wonder why there is such difference. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: can TB convert .msg to .eml?
Hi Peter, On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, at 10:06:27 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:06 where I live) you wrote: PM Yes. From the Message menu select Save as... and choose .eml for file PM type. Then attach the saved message. Thank you. I did that, just wonder if it can be easier just by pulling the selected message into the editor window. JL I also wanna know if all the emails in TB are .MSG format. Can all JL the emails(messages) be set with .EML format by default? PM I'm sorry, someone else may be able to answer this. :-) Nope. Thanks for your kind help. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: can TB convert .msg to .eml?
Hi Marek, On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, at 10:16:52 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:16 where I live) you wrote: MM Format of MSG and EML files is the same, difference is in extension MM only. Thanks for letting me know of that. But why OE can't recognize a .MSG file but can do with .EML? Can all the emails(messages) be set with .EML format by default? MM no, this is not possible. So if I want to attach a .EML file, I have to save the .MSG message as .EML extension, then attach it so that OE can open it? Sorry for being dumb. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
can TB convert .msg to .eml?
Hi friends, I got a question. When I attach an email when I compose a new email(by drag and pull to the composing window), the attached email will be saved as .MSG file by default. The problem is, it appears Outlook Express can't identify .MSG files as an email, thus, can't open the attached file as it can do with .EML files. My question is, could TB in any way save an attached email as .EML format instead of .MSG? I also wanna know if all the emails in TB are .MSG format. Can all the emails(messages) be set with .EML format by default? Anticipating your enlightenment. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Get New Mail Hang
Hello Wayne, you wrote JN What delete task button? WH The one in the Connection Centre. I have the same problem when getting messages headers. Usually, it's showing one less than the total(Say, there are total 6 mails there, but I can only get 5 of them, it takes forever to get the last one) then hanging there for an indefinite time. I tried delete task, also I tried abort, problem is nothing ever happened no matter how many times I press these buttons. So everytime it hangs, I have to end the task from the taskmanager of Windows by my strong hand(LOL), since even when I tried to close TB, it wouldn't lemme do that, saying the action is still active(but apparently not, I once left my machine on for a whole afternoon, guess what? it halted half an hour before I left, when I came back in the evening, still I couldn't get the last message, really sad experience, what's even worse is it happened many times). Any advice? -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using Sound Effectively
Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 1:16:23 PM, you wrote: PM Hi Thomas, PM on Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:17:14 +0700GMT (19.11.02, 16:17 +0100GMT here), PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I would like to play a wav file if any new email ends up in the Inbox-Known folder. I don't see a way to do that. TF Unfortunately, you can do this only with a work-around. Don't use the TF Known filter, but create one manually that sends the mail to your TF Known folder and plays the soound. PM I guess it works the other way around, as I found no option to filter on PM address books when creating a new filter. I created a Known folder which PM allows me to select sound, and pointed the existing Known filter to it PM instead of the default Inbox-Known. So keep the filter, but create a new PM destination folder. :-) I tried following your advice but came up with a new problem. I hadn't realized that my sound file would be played for each and every email coming into that folder (duh!). It sounds awful when a half dozen emails get moved into the folder as it doesn't execute the sound file based on my pressing the get new mail button but rather based on items being moved into the folder. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using Sound Effectively
Thursday, November 21, 2002, 12:14:35 PM, you wrote: CW This is the exact same problem I had and hence I previously wrote the CW following message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think my problem is that I only review the TBUDL (and other) mail lists late at night when I'm quite tired. Sorry I didn't understand (nor appreciate) your response. Thanks for your patience. The answer makes sense. Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using Sound Effectively
I would like to do something with a sound wav file for TB notification of new mail but I can't figure out how to do it. Most of the emails that I get are filtered into different folders. I would like to play a wav file if any new email ends up in the Inbox-Known folder. I don't see a way to do that. In addition (and I think this is not possible), I would like a sound notification whenever I end up with new email that is left in the inbox folder (after all filters are run). I suspect the solution to this latter problem would be to set up a filter at the end of all filter list that would move any remaining email to a specifically designated folder. Then, of course, I modify that last filter to play a sound. -- Joe Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM joe topshot Yahoo Msgr joetopshot Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baltimore, MD Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic mail download issue
I'm having this issue again. A reinstall solved it but I don't want to reinstall this client every few weeks. I love this e-mail program and will buy it - but this one problem is a *major* problem. I'd rather go back to Outlook - at least it will download my e-mail by itself. Does anyone know if they are addressing this issue? --- Cheers, Joe Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists Down?
Paul, Tuesday, September 17, 2002, 11:10:56 PM, you typed: The last message I received from any of the lists including Tbot was at 2:58 PM. I am getting other mail. I hope I am not the last person on Earth. I think it's just a slow night. I looked outside and there are cars driving around, I think we're OK for now. --- Cheers, Joe Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've seen (including mine). I'm now experiencing this problem. No firewall installed. XP Pro. 1.60q. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion
Luigi, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 12:56:59 AM, you typed: I noticed that too. It seems that TB! calls some sort of delete_single_message() funcion for each of the selected messages instead of a sort of delete_multiple_message() in wich it could perform the messagebase housekeeping functions only once. I see. Good at least I'm not crazy. I assume there is no fix or work around? --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion
Roelof, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:09:21 AM, you typed: Never noticed that behaviour. Count your blessings. When was your last compress? When was your last defrag of your mail partition? Especially compressing your messagebase can prevent these. (Folder - Compress all folders) I don't compress, I keep the client clean. with the exception of the trash which is usually cleaned before it reaches 1,000 messages. There may be a few messages in a few folders for a few days until I save them to disk. I haven't defragged lately. This is a clean install of XP Pro. I'll defrag this evening and see if it helps. This problem is not constant - it comes and goes - it just comes more often then I'd like. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion
Luigi, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:36:23 AM, you typed: I always copress/pack on exit, but when I delete a lot of messages in one time the time it takes is incredibly long (say 4-5 seconds for about 80/100 msgs) I don't. However, my deletes from the trash take about the same amount of time or a little more for 500 to 1000. On average I get 500 emails a day. So I clean often. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:15:37 PM, you typed: Would be good if somebody with the same problem could confirm if this procedure works there too. What would be better is if someone could see how long this will actually work for. Not interested in reinstalling this client every few weeks or months in order for it to work properly. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:29:25 PM, you typed: A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid backup/restore function) but of course it should be studied and dealt with. Yeah, splendid is right. As a former Outlook user I was MOST IMPRESSED with the backup and restore functions of The Bat!. Outstanding. Worked flawlessly. Nearly knocked me off my chair when I seen it in action. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion
Hexdump, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 2:18:58 PM, you typed: If you've never compressed the folder in the TB!, I'd recommend that you do so. To the best of my knowledge deleted messages remain in the messagebase (marked as deleted, and are hidden) until the messagebase is compressed. You can check this by going to Folder-Browse deleted messages. I went ahead and purged and compressed. Thanks for the info. I hope this helps remedy this laggy situation! --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
I found a way to fix it. Change my client. 8) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion
Has anyone noticed or heard about The Bat! causing strange activity with the HDD when deleting messages? The client locks up for about 10 to 20 secs while the HDD is accessed per message being deleted - then it will delete a bunch of messages at once and then lock up again (because I mistakenly mash the delete key - thinking it will just delete the messages). I can perform other functions within The Bat! client like reading mails and I can use other programs without any trouble. It's just the client will delete the messages very slowly / erratically and chew away at the drive. I can't figure out what might be causing this but I have narrowed it down to The Bat! client. AMD 1.2 Duron 512 ram XP Pro Dual Maxtor 40gb 7200 drives with no problems or errors. Thanks in advance. --- Cheers, Joe Famous Intellimoments in Microsoft history: June 1999 - The IntelliMouse June 2002 - IntelliSpeed Technology July 2002 - No ones buys the IntelliHype June 2003 - Microsoft releases IntelliLinux July 2003 - Microsoft becomes Intellisoft Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem Verifying PGP Signature of TheBat's Announcement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- (I hope this email didn't get posted twice. I sent the first copy before I had registered myself. I don't think it was distributed.) I'm not a heavy user of pgp so this problem may well be do to something I'm not doing right. Until now, I have only encrypted and decrypted messages. At any rate, I received the notice of the new version of TheBat (v 1.61) and happened to notice that there was a pgp signature associated with the email. Furthermore, there was a URL to RitLab's public encryption key (PGP key is available at https://support.ritlabs.com/pgpkeys/office.txt). So I grabbed the public key and imported it to my pgp keyring. I then asked TheBat to verify the signature of the 1.61 announcement email. Pgp displayed a message saying that the key was invalid. Has anyone else done this? Does it work correctly for you? I tried sending an email to myself using a pgp signature and it worked fine (nice to know I'm still me). I will put a signature around this email (my public key is available at pgpkeys.mit.edu, among other places. Thanks for any clarification or illumination on this subject, Joe - --- Joe Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM joe topshot Yahoo Msgr joetopshot Baltimore, MD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQCVAwUBPTzCtYkFghQMbK3LAQEp6QP/dJGYcagAV0bS8bQx/D0TQbI4pQqft3dY q3z0qoTxz8eVDuNHWuA3qbwRZ5im/W9MluV0qbFfxCp2iRI1PCVQDPclUs20QE7U JHnhFnPsvupGYti0fOxTmaoiQ8n/YjCUKzSKJyOQv9RO+4UnFQqg0io9ghai9qd7 2tOGkWJlml8= =GD7G -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Emoticons
Nick, Monday, July 8, 2002, 9:32:29 AM, you typed: NA Must be a spelling mistake, right? You wouldn't purposely slag a superb NA Operating System... in fact you are using it yourself, correct? Just because you use it doesn't mean you can't cut up on it, in fact, it gives you more right to do so. 8) -- Cheers, Joe Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Folder Alphabetical Order
Friday, January 25, 2002, 3:49:21 AM, you wrote: Hello Keith, On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:24:21 -0800GMT (25-1-02, 10:24 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: K Is there anyway to make the folder list be in alphabetical order? I K converted a Pegasus mailbox to TB and now everything is random order. Click on 'name' above the folder list and you'll get the warning that the order of folders is about to be changed. Roelof, are there two versions of The Bat? Don't you mean to click on the Folder header just above the list of folders? I don't have any name field anywhere??? -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Folder Alphabetical Order
Friday, January 25, 2002, 10:16:30 AM, you wrote: [...] JF I don't have any name field anywhere??? There are different language files. Currently I'm using one with the Dutch language for testing purposes. When I switch from Dutch to English (as I do, before I refer to anything on this list) the English version is not quite the same as with the language pack that I was using before. Might have something to do with tested pack being adapted for the current beta series. Nothing to worry about. ;-) Whew. I guess I can stop looking for that name heading now, eh? :) -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Folder Alphabetical Order
Friday, January 25, 2002, 10:16:30 AM, you wrote: [...] JF I don't have any name field anywhere??? There are different language files. Currently I'm using one with the Dutch language for testing purposes. When I switch from Dutch to English (as I do, before I refer to anything on this list) the English version is not quite the same as with the language pack that I was using before. Might have something to do with tested pack being adapted for the current beta series. Nothing to worry about. ;-) Whew. I guess I can stop looking for that name heading now, eh? :) -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[4]: Benefits of registration?
Sunday, January 13, 2002, 3:00:35 PM, you wrote: Hello Joe Thank you for your email dated Saturday, January 12, 2002, 10:49:36 PM, in which you wrote: JF PS: I bet there's a way for TB to do my taxes for me, too I thought there was a plug-in for that... That really wouldn't surprise me one little bit, William. TB has all kinds of nice little surprises. Unfortunately, they're often well-hidden ones. -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Question about TB server
I just received a bunch of mail returns with the following message: ** This is the Postfix program at host localhost.localdomain. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unknown user: cancellation.freeserve.co.uk *** I received one for every message I've sent to TB mail list over the past few days or so. Any ideas about what this could mean? Each of these messages were broadcast to the list, as far as I can tell. I assume that the server for the TB mail is in the UK somewhere, but why the mail returns? Thanks! -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
