Re: New Received header, WHY?
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, 17:37, Greg Strong wrote: The interesting part is the messagingengine.com reference in the Received header is not in the original email of this thread returned by TBUDL. It is only on test message I send from one of my email accounts to another. Why the difference on TBUDL? Where in the sequence of Recieved: does it occur? Can you post the entire chain here? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Received header, WHY?
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, 18:50, Greg Strong wrote: Where in the sequence of Recieved: does it occur? Can you post the entire chain here? [cut] Could it be fastmail.fm that has changed their configuration? They seem to refer to 127.0.0.1 as smtp.us.messagingengine.com. Maybe they have some dns pointers strangely configured? Hopefully there is someone on this list who can tell more from these logs, I don't know the relevant RFC's to tell exactly what is going on. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Received header, WHY?
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, 19:09, Jonathan Angliss wrote: I did a quick lookup, and the reason that is happening is fastmail.fm are using messagingengine.com as an MX service. I explain the other day in an email about MX's to somebody. Basically what is happening is that your mail is going through a service that fastmail.fm request it to. You see, I told you someone would have a better knowledge about what to look for in these headers :-) At least I wasn't completely wrong, I just didn't know how to look things up. Not a strangely configured DNS, but I did get the basic idea right. You might not care, but it does satisfy me :-) And to Jonathan, I would greatly appreciate an explanation of MX records if you have the time. If you don't could you point me to some basic but good introduction? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Contacts with multiple email addresses
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, 13:57, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Under Other in the Address book entry, there is an option to Automatically add secondary addresses to BCC which will do what it says on the tin. But it only works if you create the message from within the address book. Is there any way to make it happen automatically even when I enter an email address manually? Currently I am using a user template for such cases, but if there is a tick option... Well, that would be easier. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Contacts with multiple email addresses
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, 14:43, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: No tick option, but the address picker should do it for you (the little roladex icon at the end of the To: line of the message editor. True. But that require manual interaction which is bad since I don't trust my memory enough. I'll stick with my current templates. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: when a server is not a server...
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 17:58, Tomasz Nidecki wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but wouldn't it just be easier to install Hamster? It's a freeware mail and news server, and I believe (but I might be wrong - I only use it for news) it should have the necessary capabilities... Check it out. As long as TB! haven't implemented IMAP no mail server would be sufficient. Even with Hamster installed, how should one TB! now of a message being moved from folder a to folder b on the other TB!? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: when a server is not a server...
On Thursday, March 13, 2003, 03:29, Allie Martin wrote: It is possible. Take a look in the help section 'Mailing Within the Internet'//'Network and Administration'//'The Bat! Networking Course A detailed description of how to do what you seem to want to do is outlined there. It does? I know there's information about the client/server mode, but I didn't see any about the mixed setup I want. I'll go back and have a look again. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: when a server is not a server...
On Friday, March 14, 2003, 11:23, Allie Martin wrote: Mixed? I reviewed your message and see what you meant. Sorry about that. No problem. Each account has a home directory. Again, you can change this to the home directory of an account on the server. Ah, I see. Is that how TB!'s client/server works? I'd rather have all *.tb(b|i) files localy since the server and client computers are on different sides of a pretty slow wan. I was hoping the client/server setup would incorporate some smart syncronization, or that the files are stored _and_ processed remotely which would mean only the relevant information is sent to the client, not the entire message base. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: when a server is not a server...
On Friday, March 14, 2003, 11:50, Allie Martin wrote: MO or that the files are stored _and_ processed remotely which would MO mean only the relevant information is sent to the client, not the MO entire message base. What do you mean by relevant information? What I was hoping for was a setup where the client is merely a display of what's going on at the server side, like with Microsoft's Terminal Server. Then, if the client caches the message bases locally and updates both at the server and the client sides or if it is just a simple display does not matter to me, what does matter is that the entire message base does not have to be transferred over the WAN every time I, for example, purge and compress. When you change the installation B's account home directory to that of one on the server, no message bases are copied over. Installation B will work with the bases and tbi files on the server. I understood, but that's exactly what I don't want. I wont the installation B to tell installation A what to do. Again, like Terminal Server. But then again, you said you wish to have the tbb and tbi files locally, which is everything and not just relevant information. My fault, I was doing other things while writing this mail, apparently I didn't get it all together at the end :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: when a server is not a server...
On Friday, March 14, 2003, 12:59, Allie Martin wrote: With the setup I initially described, i.e., changing the home directory via the registry, no mail bases are transferred. All account data is stored on the server. You're just seeing a display of it through your installation B. But the work is still being done by installation B. If you purge a folder, TB! has to transfer it over the network, purge it and transfer it back. That's what I want to avoid, I want installation B to tell installation A: 'Purge folder 1'. I don't want installation B to be doing the actual job. I've understood now it can't be done with TB! as it's currently implemented and I do understand that it's quite some job to implement such a feature. With proper IMAP support there is no need of it either, I can achieve exactly what I want with an IMAP server and proper IMAP capabilities of TB!. For sometime I was doing this with TB!, i.e., all my mail was on the server. Nothing on my working machine on which TB! is installed. No, but again, all tasks was performed on your working machine which means heavy network use. Not suitable for me. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: recomend another mailer ?
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 01:53, John Morse wrote: I tried it again, and yes this list bounces mail from Foxmail Yes, they bounce it, even though they claim they don't want people to have the ability to bounce email from their client. Apart from what Marck said about them; no one has argued about a list server's ability to bounce mails. A mail server is not the same as a list server is not the same as a client. Don't mix the terms, it will (and obviously has, no harm intended) confuse you. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: when a server is not a server...
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 03:39, SS wrote: In any case, what I am interested to do is have a server mode Bat running on a given PC and then 2 more workstation connecting to it, but all being able to see one and the same set of accounts. I'm afraid I cannot help you, but I would like to add another question to your list. I myself are interested in having TB! installed as a server on machine A, and on machine B run TB! with two accounts, one which should connect to the server as a non tcp/ip workstation, the other which should work as a generic email client. As I have understood it this is not possible, but hopefully I'm wrong. Or am I? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! thru a proxy server ??
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 14:26, Task Control wrote: In the past i was have a good result with the utility to share internet conection of win2000, the idea are: INTERNET | |--- w98se |-- Win2000 HUB/SWITCH --- w95 (your old machine) |--- win2000 |--- W2K's built in internet sharing tool works great in a lot of circumstances, but it has some severe shortcomings. Try it, if it's not sufficient for you, I can recommend Winroute from Kerio (www.kerio.com). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Files
On Monday, March 10, 2003, 15:13, Joseph N. wrote: Can't seem to find this in the archives: 1. What file(s) are the quick templates? account\ACCOUNT.QTN 2. What file(s) are the account-level templates? account\ACCOUNT.CFG -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: missing mails
On Friday, March 7, 2003, 00:47, Thomas Fernandez wrote: If that does not help either, I'm afraid the messages are gone. Not necessarily. The messages.tbb files may contain viruses that where not caught when the infected mails arrived. When the virus scanner was updated and the messages.tbb file accessed, the virus scanner then can have quarantined the whole message base. True, of course. Didn't think of anything beyond TB!. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing brackets from forwards?? Stupid newbie question. :)
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 14:30, Newsacct wrote: Well, does the %text remove the s from the message? I mean, if they are already in the original text? I didn't think it did that. I thought that was good for replying without using the s but I need to remove ones that are already there. Correct, I missunderstood your request. I suppose it can be done with some regex's, but I can't help you here. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoted text in replies - almost there...
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 11:51, Nick Dutton wrote: Roelof got me sorted, and my reply template looks like this: %QuoteStyle='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(\w)%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OFromFName%- %SUBPATT=1%- %SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(\w)%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OFromLName%- %SUBPATT=1%-' %CAPITAL='%OFromFName', Unfotunately this inserts a blank line above the '%OFromFName'. Can anyone (or Roelof!) tell me: - why this happens and how I can fix it? Change the last two lines from: %SUBPATT=1%-' %CAPITAL='%OFromFName', to: %SUBPATT=1%-'%CAPITAL='%OFromFName', That should do it. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoted text in replies - almost there...
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 15:07, Jonathan Angliss wrote: %SUBPATT=1%-' %CAPITAL='%OFromFName', Wouldn't also moving the ' back 2 places work? ie: %SUBPATT=1'%- Or would that break the marcos? Don't know. I tried adding an extra %- at the end but that didn't help, never tried moving the ' though. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading does not work
I agree this is a very important issue. However, TBBETA is a better place to suggest and discuss new features, I therefore cross post your letter there (or here, depending on where you are reading this :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 12:16, Roman Katzer wrote: as I'm sure most of you have noticed, the threaded view of messages on this list works just wonderfully. This is because you can set TB to sort by references and most users on this list do use The Bat to write their messages. References and subjects are generated correctly. Pure bliss. However, in the cruel world out there there are other mailing lists! Lists that have users with all kinds of mail programs. Threaded view doesn't work on these lists, neither threading by reference nor threading by subject. Somehow TB doesn't thread messages correctly that haven't been created with TB. At least most of the time. I don't think that all other mail programs generate bad subjects or references, so why does TB not work? Sure, I could go out there and evangelize, ask them to use TB, but some of them might not be inclined to use a new program. Instead, might it be possible that TB is fixed to thread correctly? Look at the code of mutt (a free, open-source mail client in the unix world) to see how robust threading is implemented. They have only one option to thread, and that works as good as can be expected, way better than TB. This is one of the very few points in which I think TB can be greatly improved. I hope the developers are getting this. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greeting dependent on time
On Monday, February 24, 2003, 15:38, Luc wrote: [begin] Good %IF:%TIME='hh:mm:ss'=04:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss' ='11:59:59':'morning'%-%IF:%TIME='hh:mm:ss'=12:00:00: %IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss'='17:59:59':'afternoon'%-%IF: %TIME='hh:mm:ss'=18:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss' ='23:59:59':'evening'%-%IF:%TIME='hh:mm:ss'= 00:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss'='03:59:59':'night'%- %TOFNAME, [end] === Now, what i'm looking for is this: 00:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss'='03:59:59':'night' should produce 'hello' instead of goodnight but all the others should remain good morning,... Is there a way of doing this? Since I haven't tried it myself, I might be making a fool out of myself, but why don't you delete the initial Good and replace 'morning' with 'Good morning' and so on? This way you could easily replace 'night' with 'Hello'. Or doesn't it work to enclose more then one word in single quotes? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macros and MAPI
On Friday, February 21, 2003, 12:00, Allie Martin wrote: It would seem that when the file is added as an attachment, the template is generated. Not over here using Word 2000. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macros and MAPI
On Friday, February 21, 2003, 13:32, Allie Martin wrote: MO Not over here using Word 2000. Do you have Adobe Acrobat? Try the same and see. I'm afraid not. How do you get Word 2000 to use TB! as its MAPI client? Don't know, I just assumed it was using MAPI. My fault. So, how do I tell? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macros and MAPI
On Friday, February 21, 2003, 13:44, Allie Martin wrote: On checking the Word 2000 File menu, there's no choice to send E-Mail. On reading the documentation, it says that I have to have a registered default e-mail client, either OE5 or Outlook. Of course, TB! is my default client. I was wondering how come TB! is working for you. I guess it just happened? :) Don't know, but I remember a thread where this problem was discussed. IIRC, no one came up with an answer, for some it worked and for some not. For some a reinstallation of Word helped, for some not. Sometimes they are indeed strange, the zeros and ones :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ?: How i can filter messages by two condition...
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, 14:18, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote: I need to move messages received from [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND contaning in Text 'BLAbla' string into certain folder ! WHERE and WHAT i should write in Filter ?! I'm crazy about reading idiotical The Bat helps already ! Add two different filtering strings: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SenderYes blablaText Yes Do not use the tab called Alternatives, that is for OR:ing conditions. If you want case sensitiveness you have to use regular expressions, but if you don't the above will be enough. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 Questions: Thread Views PGP messing with -- signature
On Friday, January 3, 2003, 01:23, Allie Martin wrote: I decided to switch viewers. With the fixed width viewer, I don't see the space. With the rich text viewer, it seems like a space is there when you swipe select the delimiter with the mouse. This is what confused me. Most rtv's shows a cr as a space when selected in this way. Try it in Word for instance. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 Questions: Thread Views PGP messing with -- signature
On Thursday, January 2, 2003, 14:18, Mary Bull wrote: V I also noticed (thanks to my Mozilla e-mail client) that my V signatures get broken up... What I mean is the dash, dash, space V (-- ) gets converted to a (- -- ) and it then allows for my entire V signature to be caught up in a reply. This is what my exchange of Posts with Jonathan Angliss was all about. And it is a characteristic of The Bat!, as I finally came to understand at the end of that conversation. It depends on what you are referring to. How other programs handle - -- as a signature delimiter I do not know, but it's not TB!'s fault that the extra - is inserted before the correct delimiter. Try signing a text with -- at an otherwise empty line in any other program if you want to verify. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
On Thursday, December 26, 2002, 13:33, Dierk Haasis wrote: Where ever you have the blank lines, just put %- at the beginning of the line. Not at the end? It shouldn't matter. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
On Thursday, December 26, 2002, 14:22, Allie Martin wrote: But yes, you're correct, %- is placed at the end of the line if it contains characters. Are you sure? %- at the end of line 1 has to produce the same result as at the beginning of line 2, hasn't it? In other words, if you put it at the beginning or the end of a line is a matter of what you want to achieve. I might be wrong here, but as I remember that is how it works. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
On Thursday, December 26, 2002, 21:50, Dierk Haasis wrote: This question can be answered by two simple experiments. Anybody volunteering? I started this, so I guess it's up to me to volunteer. Jonathan was absolutely right when he wrote: 8 new line %-macro probably won't produce the same results as: %- macro 8 The first produces an extra blank line before the macro and the other doesn't. I was wrong when saying it doesn't matter where you put the %-. I guess my lesson is to try things out before I say someone else is wrong g. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
On Saturday, December 21, 2002, 07:52, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: Since neither Synchronise nor Backup/Restore will create this mirror image I need, can anyone suggest an alternate solution? Yes, Miguel A. Urech recommended Second Copy 2000 (http://www.centered.com) to me and I've been using it happily since. It has some problems with incorrectly time stamped files originating from a Macintosh, but other then that it works like a charm. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Introduction and Question
On Monday, December 16, 2002, 13:06, Ron Jeffries wrote: HOWEVER: If the mail in question is useless or spam, I want to delete it. Pressing the Del key, with the default read filter mentioned above, doesn't send the mail to Trash, it sends it to Read. So my question is: how can I have both a default filter sending mail that has been read from Inbox to folder Read, and allowing mail that is deleted from Inbox to Trash. You can create another filter which sends the message to Trash. Mark this filter as manual and then assign a hotkey combination for it and use this hotkey instead of your ordinary way to delete messages. You might even be able to assign the delete key as hotkey for your manual filter, but that I don't know. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parking the whole thread at once
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, 16:23, Sergey Kovalyov wrote: Can I park the whole thread with one click (shortcut)? This is what I use in Agent quite often. The shortcut editor is your friend (found under View | Edit shortcuts). Look for Message List Pop-Up | Thread | Park. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Minor Questions
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, 15:11, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote: I tried right clicking an individual folder and noticed use the account default settings but I do not know where they are or how to change them all in one shot? First set all folders you want to look the same to use the account default settings, then adjust one of them to look like you want it. As soon as you make any changes to any of the folders with this option selected, all other will change accordingly. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Minor Questions
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, 15:42, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote: Is there a way to introduce a mass change like that? The issue has been raised before and unfortunately the answer seems to be no. You can do it with a series of key presses which might simplify the process, and of course you can download your macro utility of choice to do this. However, I don't take any responsibility if you mess things up :-) With the folder list in focus, press; alt-enter, alt-u, enter, down This should set one folder to use the default settings and move the cursor down to the next. Repeat as necessary. Note, this is on my English system, if you have localized TB! then the shortcuts might be different. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Minor Questions
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, 16:16, Gerard wrote: What ouy could do is reset it all to factory default. If I'm not mistaken, this setting is not ticked by default. At least, when I create a new folder it isn't. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MS Office integration
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 15:46, Nick Dutton wrote: Is is possible to get TB! to integrate with MS Word etc? I'd like to use the File - Send To - Mail Recipient function from within MS Office apps. Since upgrading to TB!, this option has been greyed out. I can so it's definitely possible. Can you right click a file and select Send To - Mail Recipient? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MS Office integration
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 16:07, Nick Dutton wrote: MO Can you right click a file and select Send To - Mail Recipient? Yes, that works. I guess that is a Windows feature. I thought the Office integration worked on the same basis, but apperently it doesn't. From the help file (of Word, that is): --- 8 --- To e-mail or route a document as an attachment in Word format (.doc) You need Word 2000 and one of the following e-mail programs: Outlook, Outlook Express, Microsoft Exchange Client, or another 32-bit e-mail program compatible with the Messaging Application Programming Interface (MAPI). Make sure Mapi32.dll is in the Windows System folder. --- 8 --- If Mapi32.dll isn't in the correct folder, place it there (IIRC it can be downloaded from Ritlabs homepage). If this doesn't help, try setting TB! as the default MAPI-client. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 03:56, tracer wrote: reminds me, I just see that my post was semi bounced with following message...: Your mail to 'TBUDL' with the subject password on messages Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message may contain administrivia Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/confirm/tbudl/etc etc question is really what triggered the toast... I obviously will have a good look at the stromgrade website as it looks like an intriguing message... IIRC this has happened to me too with messages containing the word password among the first lines. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: password on messages
On Friday, November 22, 2002, 11:53, tracer wrote: One can put aa password on a mail account so that downloaded mail cannot be read (easily) by someone else. However unless I see it wrong when aa mailrun is done it also doesnt download / send mail from password protected accounts... I donot even see a warning unless I ask ONLY to get mail for a protected account. If this behavious is correct, please consider changing it as I donot want to prevent downloading my mail, just others reading it.. Look under Account - Properties - Options. Check Allow send/fetch without entering the access password (if any). That should do what you want. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: explain spamfilter, please
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, 21:56, Ochrid wrote: My question: Can I edit the 'dirty' words that evoke the filter within the TB! filter editor? And if so, how? Of course you can, mark the filter and look for Filtering Strings on the first tab (Rule). It's not a very convenient way of making the changes either, but at least it's within TB! as you asked for. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: explain spamfilter, please
On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 11:31, Ochrid wrote: Thanks, I had looked there, but thought I was in the wrong place, for nothing shows up in there while I had all your words pasted in - and they work. Strange, sounds like something went wrong when you copied the filter. Can you paste it here? So, if you don't mind, one other silly question: do I have to add one word at the time, or can I add several separated by | ? It depends on whether you have checked Regular expressions on the Options tab or not. If you use my filter, you can (and should) add several keywords at once, separated by |. If you want to search for phrases, enclose them in [square brackets]. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: explain spamfilter, please
On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 12:25, Ochrid wrote: Yes, but: the filter works, I have tested it several times. The only thing is nothing shows up in the field where one is supposed to enter the filtering strings (I also pasted in your second filter, the one that filters on patterns - d\d\d\d\ ,: that one does show up in the box). Maybe you didn't correct the line break? All this: MainSet: 50teen|girls|celebrity|Adrian|hadrianus|seks| sex|dollar|dollars|buy|Adrian|lesbian|lesbians|pics|photo's|nude|naked|adult|porn|xxx|gangbang|cum|hardcore|fuck|[over 18]|horny|sluts|britney|spears|viagra|pharmac|medication|xenical|pills|prescription|snoring|money|$$|credit|mortage|mortgage|debt|investment|business|marketing|[special offer]|discount|insurance|lottery|[unsolicited email]|spam|congratulations|adventure|hollywood|cannes|[green card] ...should be on one line. But you have probably already corrected this, otherwise I do not believe that the filter would work. If it's not the line break, I have no idea what could be wrong. I have Regular Expressions checked. No you don't. If you did, this line: Actions: faMarkRead,faoAdvAddressOut ...should look like: Actions: faMarkRead,faoRegExp,faoAdvAddressOut But that's not a problem, regular expressions should not be checked for this filter. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: help-ticker missing!
On Friday, November 8, 2002, 03:55, Paul Cartwright wrote: ok, I forgot to mention, my screen size is 1024 X 768. now, my ticker info: top=770 left=1706 ( I changed that to 770, still nada) width=476 normal width=476 if my screen size is 1024, does left=1706 mean it is way out of bounds? Yes, and top=770 means it's just below the bottom. Change not only the left value but the top as well. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: thebat.dutaint.com under spam attack?
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, 15:37, Luc wrote: I have visited your website and noticed that your website is not listed on some search engines. I am sure that through our service the [Snip] subject was: http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com/. Anybody else received this garbage? I know it says tbtech but i know several of you are subscribed to tbtech also, so... Time to get rid of the new archives then. I know messages are not stored there anymore, but the last time I looked the already archived messages were still there, including mail address to the sender (or should that be originator :-) of each message. I for sure does not want my address there and I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling that way. Please remove them, Since the archive is not updated anymore, it does no good having them there either. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems double-clicking Ticker
On Friday, November 1, 2002, 13:35, Tim Musson wrote: ACM This is normal behaviour for the ticker. It will not open unless ACM the left edge of the first message entry has scrolled out of view ACM past the left edge of the ticker. Interesting, will see if that is the problem here (not sure as my MT is about 1 wide and scrolls the first msg in about 15 sec...). I know I don't usually get to it that fast. :-) It's not about how fast you are but when you try double clicking the MT. As soon as the last message has scrolled out to the left, you have to wait until the first message touches the left border again. In other words, it's not just a one time problem, it occurs every time the MT has cycled through all messages. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems double-clicking Ticker
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, 18:07, Carsten Meyer wrote: The same here. A doubleclick on a mail in the MessageTicker very often does not open the Message. Strange. How shall I put this to make it understandable? I've noticed that the MT only reacts to double clicks when the leftmost portion of it shows one of the messages. Or, to put it in other words, when the text informing you about how many unread messages you have has scrolled out to the left and the information about the first messages has yet to reach the leftmost border of the MT, double clicking on it does not work. I hope I managed to make myself clear. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All message files gone
On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, 15:44, Mary Bull wrote: Thank you so much. I did know that nearly everything stays somewhere on the hard drive, but I thought it would take a professional to find them. And even then, I didn't think I could put them back in The Bat! This List and its helpful members are one of the best parts of TB. And, if you haven't found it yet, the keyboard combination you're looking for is CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Bat users on one PC?
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, 15:29, Barry Higginbottom wrote: I would like to set up TB on one PC to have two users. Each user to have different email accounts and dialups. On boring OE it was easy, I just added a new identity. It *seems* very complicated on TB. Reference is made to a user 'logging on' but I can't find any way to make that happen. Set up two accounts and make appropriate settings under Account | Properties | Network. If you want you can also password protect both accounts. If you're paranoid you can set each accounts priviligies under Options | Network and administration -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Bat users on one PC?
On Friday, October 25, 2002, 11:38, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: ... then set up a third account called Admin which has no transport settings nor very much else but does have a password. Log into the Admin account and, under Networks and Administration, set the other two accounts to be User accounts and the Admin account to be an Administrator account. That is the final piece of the puzzle to do exactly what you wanted. Is this really needed? Why not let one or both of the two accounts have admin privileges? At least one of the two users will now the admin password, can't his/her own account be the admin account as well then? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Bat users on one PC?
On Friday, October 25, 2002, 11:51, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MO Why not let one or both of the two accounts have admin privileges? MO At least one of the two users will now the admin password, can't MO his/her own account be the admin account as well then? Because he asked that the two accounts be separate log-ins to TB. OK, I'll believe you. I've never tried this setup myself anyway. But one thing springs to mind. Could this login be what jwayne is talking about in the thread Log on prompts... begining with mid:6478262836.20021022095732;myrealbox.com ? If so, maybe someone with experience from using user accounts should help him out (you might take this as a hint if you feel like it :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Bat users on one PC?
On Friday, October 25, 2002, 12:20, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I read that thread as it came in but I've never seen *dual* password prompts like he's describing so I can't really help. It looks, from what jwayne's saying, that he knows full well about user/admin configurations but is being surprised by the mailto: behaviour. Could it be that TB! for some reason tries to log on to one account but tries to send the message from another? It would indeed be a strange behaviour, but it's my last shot. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Bat users on one PC?
On Friday, October 25, 2002, 13:37, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MO Could it be that TB! for some reason tries to log on to one account MO but tries to send the message from another? It would indeed be a MO strange behaviour, but it's my last shot. Actually, yes - that's a thought. This account is the default for mailto:; is the key there. I'm not sure about that (even if This account is the default for mailto:; must be involved). I think the key is bad programming by RIT Labs. My guess is that TB! interpret account settings in the wrong order. When launched through a mailto: link, it first checks for This account is the default for mailto:; and tries to send the message through the corresponding account, thus putting up the dialog asking for account password. It then realize there are accounts set up as user and not admin and asks for log on. If TB! instead first checked for the presence of user accounts, it could present only the log on box and dismiss the account password dialog. I think this should be reported to the bugtraq, but since I don't have my username/password at hand, anyone else feel like reporting? Jonathan, have you seen this thread? Any thoughts? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log on prompts...
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 23:19, jwayne wrote: MO Could it be that TB! or it's files are stored in a directory which MO is encrypted or where you don't have normal access priviligies? A MO long shot, but at least a shot :-) No encryption. It's a Windows 2000 system, but FAT32 so there are no file permissions. I have no idea then, unless you have any other strange software installed which could password protect individual applications? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log on prompts...
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 05:37, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I don't know what this is. I also wonder why you can send the message at all, if you are required to log in first. That's why I was guessing on POP authentication which shouldn't affect the possibility to send mails. But that doesn't make sense, the dialog for POP authentication doesn't look like that. Neither should it pop up until the account password is entered and accepted. I can't think of anything else then third-party software trying to limit access to TB!. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash Screen?
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 06:28, Allie C Martin wrote: JA - Open Notepad (Start - Programs - Accessories - Notepad) JA - Put: JA c:\progra~1\thebat~1\thebat.exe /nologo ^ shouldn't a space be there? Why not write the line like this? No, spaces are not allowed in the 8.3 name standard. C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /nologo Good question :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nothing to send
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 14:11, Markus Gloede wrote: does anyone know why the Bat sometimes tells me that there is Nothing to send while I have a lot of messages in my outbox? Probably because messages are saved like drafts and therefore parked. Make sure the little hour glass is not shown for the particular message you want to send. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I install the bet rar file?
On Monday, October 21, 2002, 16:33, Jonathan Angliss wrote: In my 2.7 beta 3 I don't have this sponsor splash Maybe they didn't put it in the beta, and just the final release? Probably, but now I can't get hold of the beta anymore :-/ -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of unwanted messages
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, 09:08, Richard Wakeford wrote: I know I must be doing something very basically wrong but can't see what at the moment :-( I repeat what I've already said; post the filter here and let us evaluate it. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Handy option?
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 23:47, Jonathan Angliss wrote: 6? What happened to 2? Or the rest of them in between for that matter? ;) g Beta 2-5 has been out since late august/early september. At least some of them has been discussed on TBBETA. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of unwanted messages
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, 10:48, Richard Wakeford wrote: Again humble apologies and I'll triple check everything next time. :-) So, is your filter working like expected now? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request: Message folder showing
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, 11:33, Dierk Haasis wrote: Background: I use the MT to read all my incoming mail, but most of it is filtered beforehand into specific folders. To see if a message resides in the correct folder - filters not always work correct - I now have to context menu the message, choose Move to Folder ... and have a look. Wouldn't be much more convenient to see it in the grey header panel. You can add a column in the MT showing the folder. Right click the column header and make sure Folder is in the right box. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of unwanted messages
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 05:35, Richard Wakeford wrote: Well, I can't for the life of me see where I am going wrong. I've tried with and without quotes and everything. Post your entire filter here. Mark the filter and hit ctrl-c, then paste it into a message to TBUDL. Whilst I'm on the subject of getting rid of unwanted messages (I'm sure I'll eventually get it right!) is there a way of removing orphaned messages after the first message in a thread has been deleted? Not without manually including the message ID of the root message in your removal filter. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronize Bat with 2 computers.
On Monday, August 12, 2002, 10:27, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Is there a way to Synchronize Bat between to Computers. I use Second Copy 2000 (http://www.centered.com/) exactly for that. Late answer, I know... I've looked at this and it seems like a good piece of software. My only concern is it isn't freeware, I would very much appreciate not having to pay for my modest need of file synchronization. Does anyone have any freeware suggestions? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup without Maintenance Center
On Monday, October 14, 2002, 19:13, Anthony Xin Chen wrote: First thing I do is export the Rit registry key into my TB directory. Do you do this manually or automatically by scripting? If latter, how do you do that? I know Thomas has already posted a solution, but to make it simpler for those confused by all commands, type the following at a command prompt or in a batch file: regedit.exe /e thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT Change thebat.reg to whatever you want, including a path if you do not want the file to end up in the current directory. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat newbies list?
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, 16:43, Anne wrote: Thanks for your thoughts Jan - I personally think this is a great list, but I'm just worried that many of the very new users I'm seeing will be intimidated by the techier stuff. Many of them are still at a very basic level and may feel overwhelmed by it all. I understand your concern but don't think creating a new list is a good idea. The problem is that most users will get more advanced as time goes by, your newly created list will be as techie as TBUDL is. It might be possible to tell the more advanced users to move to TBUDL, but I think that would demand pretty heavy moderation which will put the nice and welcoming attitude at risk. Besides, this will divide the user base of TB! into two different lists, I think many readers won't bother reading both lists. That will result in the common knowledge of TBUDL being divided by two, if you understand what I mean. And, furthermore, the new users won't have access to the heavy expertise present here. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in
On Monday, October 14, 2002, 13:12, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote: Does anybody clear knows concerning subject ? Will The Bat! team plan to do with working PGP 7.0 plug-in ? Not until the full source code for 7.0 is released. Unfortunately, that is not very likely to happen. Try the ckt builds at http://www.ipgpp.com instead, they are distributed with excellent TB! plugins. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
On Thursday, October 10, 2002, 08:59, Chris Weaven wrote: PP For example: POP3-server, SMTP-server, Name, E-Mail-Address, mail PP check options, etc... Account templates are stored in a different PP file (IIRC), so they should be preserved. Ok. That gives me some of the info I need. As you've probably read, I'm having to go through this with my sister (not really computer literate) over the phone, so wanted to be prepared to make it as painless a process as possible. At least the template are preserved!!! Are you sure? If I open account.cfg with notepad I see my account templates. It might be a good idea for you to view your sister's account.cfg in a text editor, you can get a lot of important information like SMTP server, POP3 server and other stuff she might not know of. You might even be able to save her templates. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
On Thursday, October 10, 2002, 16:27, Chris Weaven wrote: MO It might be a good idea for you to view your sister's account.cfg I would do, but I'm in the USA and she's in the UK :-) Can't you ask her to mail it to you? (No, obviously not from her own TB! account :-) Another option would be to copy an 'account.cfg' from another account and just change the settings? I don't know if that file contains any other account specific data, maybe someone else could help here. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters are sooooo complicated
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 08:25, Richard Wakeford wrote: Until yesterday all my sent mail came back to the Inbox without a CC or rule. Could it be your ISP automatically adding a BCC to you on every mail you send? Ask them! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! does not check periodically for new e-mail
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 10:29, wrote: I'm using The Bat! 1.60m I can't remember when this started... The Bat! checks for new e-mail only when at startup. I have set periodical checking (10 minutes interval) on every account. But nothing happens. What could be the problem? I'm using Norton Antivirus and E-mail protection is activated, could that be a problem? Probably not but Zone Alarm is known to generate error as the one you describe. Are you using ZA? If so, try disabling it. If that does not work, try uninstall ZA. Let us know what happens. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlstrm Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending captured screenshots using The Bat
On Monday, October 7, 2002, 09:12, achdut wrote: Is it not possible to send captured screenshots using The Bat? I tried doing so, but once I captured the screen (actually, it was the top open window of the screen) and tried to paste it into the message, nothing would paste into the message, although it would paste into Word. TB! is not capable of sending anything else then plain text, you can not insert images into the message. The solution is to paste the image into another program, save the document and attach the saved file (of course, a program like Microsoft Paint is better to use than Word since you then get a image file instead of a Word file). It would indeed be a nice feature if TB! could accept pasted images and insert them as attachment, but this is not possible now. Maybe a good idea for v2.0, what do you people out there think about this? I don't need TB! to be able to compose HTML or RTF mails, but such handling of pasted images would be nice. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending captured screenshots using The Bat
On Monday, October 7, 2002, 16:07, Tim Musson wrote: I used to open a new message and drag the pic from the web page (which works from IE at least), but have found that I can just drag it from the web page to the main window of TB (doesn't matter where) and it just pops a new message! But that doesn't solve the problem of pasting images that resides in the clipboard and not as files or other touchable objects. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, 15:07, Michael Thompson wrote: I have just noticed that the new virus, BugBear looks into *.tbb for email addresses. Am I correct or is the first virsus that targets The Bat! message files for email harvests?? Not to question you, but how do you know that? If your AV stopped BugBear from infecting your computer, how do you know that it scans .tbb files? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically add the secondary addresses to the BCC field - Doesnot work
On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 04:08, Raj wrote: PP IIRC this option only takes effect if you write a message to this PP contact using the 'New message' function in the address book. It does not work for new messages as well :( What Peter is talking about is not the regular new message but the new message function inside the address book. Right click an address book entry and select New - Message. This works for me, but since I never creates messages this way I gave up on adding secondary addresses automaticly. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically add the secondary addresses to the BCC field - Doesnot work
On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 10:01, Thomas F. wrote: MO What Peter is talking about is not the regular new message but the MO new message function inside the address book. Why does this make a difference? By design. I have no idea why, either Ritlabs forgot to implement it for both ways of creating messages or they had a reason. My guess is that it is in some way related to the design problems which is the reason they have choosen to rewrite the entire code before releasing 2.0. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically add the secondary addresses to the BCC field - Doesnot work
On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 11:26, Thomas F. wrote: MO My guess is that it is in some way related to the design problems MO which is the reason they have choosen to rewrite the entire code MO before releasing 2.0. You are probably right. They are rewriting the whole code because of this. I should have known. ;-) I knew this could be misinterpreted :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security Alert
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, 19:48, Michael Thompson wrote: Details = Message fragmentation is detailed in RFC 2046. This feature makes it possible for users wishing to send large files to split these files into multiple smaller messages. A client supporting this feature will receive multiple email messages and transparently re-assemble the whole message at the client side. I didn't know of this feature but it worked like a charm when I tried it from the web site mentioned. Does this mean it's possible to send such splitted messages with TB! as well? If so, how do I do? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto-create mailing list rule
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, 09:25, Thomas F. wrote: What you want is this: IF FOUND(message CONTAINING list_header) AND UNKOWN(list_header) Folder = new FOLDER(list_header) // create new folder Filter = new FILTER(list_header, Folder) // create new move-to filter Filter(message CONTAINING list_header, Folder) // execute filter ENDIF Alas, this can't be done. But it would be a cool feature for future versions. Preferably combined with a popup telling me that a new folder/filter has been created and the possibility to easily change the settings created. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! connecting to windowsupdate.com (was: (no subject))
On Wednesday, September 11, 2002, 15:16, Michael Thompson wrote: Hey People, why did my copy of the Bat! just try to connect to www.download.windowsupdate.com on port 80? Are you using ZA (I'm not familiar with ZA under XP but to me it looks like ZA)? If so, it's probably ZA mixing applications. I've seen it happen quite a few time under W2K with ZA Pro. That is one of the reasons I switched to Tiny PF. If you want more reasons, search the archives. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Now here's an odd one?
On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, 11:53, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: I use NAV and I get the errors at times but never while TB! is minimized; I get them while launching TB! It doesn't happen every time but every 3-4 launches or so. I have noticed the same problem, it only happens when my mouse pointer is over the task bar though. It doesn't matter where in the task bar the pointer is, if it's over the quick launch area, over the clock or anywhere else. And, to make it even more troublesome, it doesn't happen all the time, just once in a while. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: One account, multiple locations
On Monday, September 9, 2002, 11:05, Sean Johnston wrote: At the moment I'm doing a backup at the end of the day at work and copying this home. I then restore this at home, and do a similar thing in reverse before heading back into work. The problem I have is sending mail. Due to firewalling I need to use different SMTP servers at work and home. The backup/restore includes this setting so I have to remember to change it each time. Is there some way round this? Is backup/restore the right way to be going? I have a similar setup but I'm only copying the files containing the mails, not the other stuff. This way I can have different setups at work and at home. A drawback of my method is that when I do any changes (to the address book, the filters etc) I have to do them at both locations. Besides that, everything works like a charm. Copy the Inbox, Outbox, Sent and Trash folders including all files and subdirectories. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kill dupes NOT in all folders?
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, 14:03, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote: How do I protect some folders from being processed with Kill dupes in all folders command? You can't. You can protect individual messages by parking them, but not entire folders. A workaround would be to park all messages in the folders you don't want to be processed. Another workaround is to copy the folders from TB!'s mail directory to a secure place on your HD. This way, you can kill dupes in all folders and afterwards restore the backuped folders to original state. Not a smooth solution, but at least a solution. Make sure to quit TB! before moving any folders around. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kill dupes NOT in all folders?
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, 16:21, Brano wrote: AGS How do I protect some folders from being processed with Kill AGS dupes in all folders command? as some before me mentioned - you just can't. Some work around: - move messages to another account :) No, that does not seem to work. Kill dupes in all folders is not account specific, it goes through all accounts. I haven't tested it with common folders though, but since it appears to be system wide I suspect it goes through common folders as well. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Find: feature or bug
On Wednesday, September 4, 2002, 16:51, Daniel Grunberg wrote: If I highlight one word of text moving the cursor from the last letter to the first letter, and then key [ctrl]+f, then the Find window comes up with the word to be found already in place. If I highlight one word of text moving the cursor from the first letter to the last letter, and then key [ctrl]+f, then the Find window comes up without any word in place. I've also found that regardless of the highlight direction, the Find window comes up without any word in place. The find windows grabs the word that the letter to the right of the cursor belongs to, whether anything is marked or not. When marking a word from right to left, the letter to the right of the cursor is the first character of the marked word, when marking from left to right, the first letter to the right of the cursor is a space (or comma or full stop or whatever) and the find window comes up empty. Try placing the cursor inside a word without marking anything and you'll se that it works like I have described. You will also notice it when you mark parts of a word or several words. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: digest and sig delimiter
On Monday, September 2, 2002, 11:07, M Sulchan Darmawan wrote: O A possibility would be a filter that forwards the digest to another O of your accounts. Take care that the used forwarding template has a O correct signature delimiter at the bottom. O Since TB will use the last one as the real signature delimiter your O problem is solved. then I should have another new account, should I ??? Not necessarily, you could forward it to your default account and make sure that the forwarding filter only triggers on the original mail. That shouldn't be to difficult to set up. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Denne mailkonto er lukket
On Monday, September 2, 2002, 16:23, St - Musaic.Net wrote: It could just just as well have been Norwegian, although lukket (locked/disabled) would most likely have been stengt. In Swedish it would have been avstengd...ST! SHUT UP! No, it would have been avstängt. OK, I will shut up as well. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Color Groups
On Friday, August 30, 2002, 10:25, Deborah W wrote: First set up the colour group. Then go to Account - Sorting Office - New Filter. Now set up an Incoming Mail filter which looks for your boss's email address in Kludges. Click on the Actions tab you'll see the choice Set the message colour group to... and choose the appropriate one. That's it :-) You probably want to check Continue processing with other filters under the Options tab as well. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (OT) Suggestion for abuser
On Thursday, August 29, 2002, 12:04, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Send a message to the source of the alert telling them to contact the infected person and not the person in the faked From header. Tell them to stop spamming you and to modify their AV policy not to spam anyone else otherwise they will get into trouble with their ISP. In addition, it sounds like a bad idea to include the infected file in the return mail. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: email addresses in the archive
On Thursday, August 29, 2002, 12:33, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: While that's a nice thought, it's not an option. Perhaps we should turn off the MailMan archives. The old www.mail-archive.com archives are still working. Maybe we should settle for just having those and scrap the local version? Any thoughts? The new archive does not support searching (at least not yet), does not include mails older than the date of the server switch and does include email addresses which I and apparently others do not want. The old archives does support searching, does include all mails and does not show addresses. All good stuff. If the old archive will continue archiving new mails I vote for scrapping the new archive. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Color Groups
On Thursday, August 29, 2002, 15:53, Emaillists wrote: Could someone offer me a simple explanation of Color Groups. I thought I knew what it was for until I read the help item for it. Now I am lost. Sorry if this seems simple. Preferably, if someone could explain a practical use for it, I would really appreciate it. I use it for TBUDL and TBBETA to mark answers to messages written by myself with a different colour. Comes in handy when browsing through a large number of received messages. My colour marking filter looks like below. This catches messages both to TBUDL and TBBETA and colour marks them before the appropriate filter moves them to the correct folder. BeginFilter Name: In reply to me Active: 1 Source: \\marcus\Inbox Target: \\marcus\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 40^In-reply.*\d@.*canit.se AltSet:1: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:1: 40^References.*\d@.*canit.se Actions: faoContinueProcessing,faoRegExp,faSetColor AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: In reply to me AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep messages in the base for (days)
On Friday, August 2, 2002, 01:45, Allie C Martin wrote: S I tried to set a few of my folders to only keep messages for a S couple of days (folder -Properties -General), but the messages S don't get automatically deleted when they should be. What I'm uncertain about is whether or not messages are selected for deletion based on age is done based on received dates and times rather than creation dates and times. It's based on received time. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test #1, please ignore
On Monday, July 29, 2002, 16:26, Bernd Gauweiler wrote: I don't think you have a very strong argument here. You're obviously not too lazy annoying everybody with your test messages. I think you are missunderstanding. As seen in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Syafril is not testing his own mail client or his own settings, he is testing the server which handles TBUDL. Hard to do without sending messages to the TBUDL. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Deleting encypted message
On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 11:28, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: 2. How securely are message(s) deleted from TB!, can they be recovered with undelete tools? I see folders can be wiped but not the individual messages. So, the only way would be to move the messages to a folder and wipe the folder. Is there another way? Purge and compress the folder. The message text will still be left at the HD though (until the freed space is used for something else), just like ordinary files are left even after you have emptied the recycle bin. If you want to be sure the content of the message is really deleted you have to use an external wiping program. PGP could do this for you if. I doubt that TB!'s wipe of folders really does wipe files like for example PGP's wipe function. Probably it just deletes the folders and thus still leaves the information on the HD, recoverable by programs designed for that purpose. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Deleting encypted message
On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 12:31, Patrick Hagemann wrote: You can delete the message, compress the folder an then (if you are using WinXP Prof.) call cipher.exe from the command prompt using the /w option which will wipe unused space on the entire volume. But this will take some time. Didn't know about cipher.exe being able of doing this. If you install the Windows 2000 Security Rollup Package 1 (SRP1) (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q298009;) you get a new version of cipher.exe which is capable of wiping under Windows 2000 as well. However, although I've searched the web I haven't found enough documentation to tell if cipher.exe only wipes empty clusters on the disk or if it also wipes the small parts of a cluster which does not contain data (i.e. if you have a file of 1000 bytes and a cluster size of 1024 bytes, does it wipe the remaining 24 bytes of such clusters?). I know this is on the edge of what's on topic, but since it started out as a question on how to secure information in mails handled by TB! I think it's a relevant issue. If the moderators does not agree then make this a dead horse. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: 2 Problems - 1) Wordwrap 2) Exit...
On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, 11:49, Sebastian wrote: Then, my second problem: whenever I exit THE BAT, it takes about 3 minutes, because it is compressing inbox - I UNCHECKED this option though, what's going on? Have a look at Account - Properties... - Options. Make sure Compress all folders on exit is unchecked. As Marck mentioned, don't forget to compress the folder manually now and then, otherwise TB! will grow slower and slower. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automatic backups?
On Friday, July 19, 2002, 12:40, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: MT Is there any way to automate the Backup procedure? I wanna know the answer too, I don't know why the gurus are ignoring this thread :) Probably because it's an FAQ. The answer is no and it could easily be found in the archives. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automatic backups?
On Friday, July 19, 2002, 14:45, Tim Musson wrote: Now within TB. However, you can create a batch file that 1. backs up the reg key (see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tbot/files/bckup1.bat) 2. backs up the TB file systems (copy, compress, etc.) Then schedule the batch file to run. I've done this by scheduling the command: C:\WINNT\regedit.exe /e C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\TheBat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT to run at 02:57 every night. At 03:00 I run W2K's build in backup program and back (among other things) C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\* Works great and I had no trouble restoring the one time I messed up my message base. (I know I should have mentioned this in my earlier posting to this thread. I apologize for my rudeness, I'm having a really bad day.) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: personalised mass-mailing?
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:31, Deborah W wrote: That still leaves me with the extra entries in the main view of the personal AB though. Not necessarily. Right click on your address group, select Properties and mark Hide items if not explicitly selected. If I'm not misinterpreting your intentions this should do the trick. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: OT: Sharing after marriage
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 09:06, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: How do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with your wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he is of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !! WinXP's handling of simultaneously logged in users (like in the unix world) sounds like a solution. I haven't used XP enough to tell how well this works, but in theory it sounds great. And yes, I know W2K and other windows versions could manage more than one account, but when different users can't be logged in at the same time this isn't of much help in a home situation (IMHO, of course) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TB Forgotten how to count?
On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, 20:27, Jonathan Angliss wrote: Maybe manually moving mail doesn't force a recalc. Usually it does but not always. Don't know why or when. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
