Removing from this list.
Hello tbudl, I deleted the email that tells me how to subscribe/unsubscribe from this list. I need to drop the extra emails for a while. Can someone forward the Unsubscribe info to me! -- Best regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Quote of the Day: Banker: A fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining and wants it back the minute it begins to rain. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Nasty HTML ERRORS CONSTANTLY !!!!
Hello Marek, Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 6:42:30 PM, you wrote: MM Hello all, MM Tuesday, December 16, 2003, Mark Thomas wrote: MT Damn if I still don't get these same errors on just about every mail MT message I get that has HTML in them. Sometimes I even get this on MT PLAIN TEXT emails. Only after the error has appeared on a html MT message. MT I wish this could be fixed. Anyone else having this AGGRAVATING MT problem? AM I haven't seen that error in a very long time. AM I'm afraid I can't confirm this. :( I see it every day, 20 or 30 times per day! But thanks anyway! MM please add macros with The Bat! version to Your template or enable MM option Use X-mailer header in messages in program Preferences MM dialog. Information about Your OS and configuration can manytimes MM helps too. I have that setup on new messages. I guess it got chopped off when the reply was sent. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Nasty HTML ERRORS CONSTANTLY !!!!
Hello Jonathan, Monday, December 15, 2003, 4:40:15 PM, you wrote: JA On Monday, December 15, 2003, Mark Thomas wrote... -- Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0058440E in module 'THEBAT.EXE'. Read of address 01784F90 -- And no, I did not load the Christmas edition, but every beta and full release since version 2 trying to get rid of this crap. JA I believe it was fixed in one of the last betas before the Christmas JA Edition. At least that is what I vaguely remember anyway. You might JA want to backup your mail, and test with the latest Christmas Edition. JA hah... ironically, the signature was randomly picked ;) Thanks, I guess I'll give the Christmas edition a shot. I hope they don't have any major releases before I get this fixed. Otherwise, no more upgrades for me! -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Nasty HTML ERRORS CONSTANTLY !!!!
Hello Allie, Monday, December 15, 2003, 4:40:55 PM, you wrote: AM Mark Thomas, [MT] wrote: MT Damn if I still don't get these same errors on just about every mail MT message I get that has HTML in them. Sometimes I even get this on MT PLAIN TEXT emails. Only after the error has appeared on a html MT message. MT I wish this could be fixed. Anyone else having this AGGRAVATING MT problem? AM I haven't seen that error in a very long time. AM I'm afraid I can't confirm this. :( I see it every day, 20 or 30 times per day! But thanks anyway! -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Nasty HTML ERRORS CONSTANTLY !!!!
Hello Lawrence, Monday, December 15, 2003, 7:38:21 PM, you wrote: AM Mark Thomas, [MT] wrote: MT Damn if I still don't get these same errors on just about every mail MT message I get that has HTML in them. Sometimes I even get this on MT PLAIN TEXT emails. Only after the error has appeared on a html MT message. LJ I only got a couple of these HTML errors, but I hope you have LJ better luck than I did trying to send them to RitLabs. The ones I LJ forwarded got stopped by their SPAM filters. I think I get them past the filters. I do get a reply from them. It is usually after about a month! -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Nasty HTML ERRORS CONSTANTLY !!!!
Hello everyone, I thought for a while I might be the only one getting these errors. I have had them since 2.0 was released. I thought maybe it was something on my machine. I just reloaded it from scratch. Ground up. The Bat was the first thing I loaded. I restored my messages from a Bat backup. Damn if I still don't get these same errors on just about every mail message I get that has HTML in them. Sometimes I even get this on PLAIN TEXT emails. Only after the error has appeared on a html message. I wish this could be fixed. Anyone else having this AGGRAVATING problem? DISPLAYED in Red and Blue Large fonts that end up in a popup window later. -- Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0058440E in module 'THEBAT.EXE'. Read of address 01784F90 -- And no, I did not load the Christmas edition, but every beta and full release since version 2 trying to get rid of this crap. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Quote of the Day: The severity of the itch is proportional to the reach. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A taboo question.
Hello Thomas, Sunday, November 30, 2003, 8:18:07 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Mark, TF On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:37:44 -0700 GMT (29/11/2003, 21:37 +0700 GMT), TF Mark Thomas wrote: TB Pasting it into TB as plain text would make it display as plain text. I did it as an attachment, the text came up first, attachement at the bottom of the screen in a tab, and on the left of the message view as message.html. TF That should have worked, IMHO. If you attach an HTML file, and the TF recipient clicks on it, it should be displayed correctly (if the TF graphics and stuff are sent with it). I receive newsletters in HTML TF and have no problems displaying them; but the senders are probably not TF using TB. I let him use Lookout to send the postcard. I just don't like to open the darn program on my computer. TF I understand this perfectly. I just don't know why the HTML attachment TF wouldn't display properly on the recipinets' computers. I can send out of Lookout and have it display properly. Even images if I include them in as an attachment. If it is an image src on the web, naturally it displays a X. But I cannot paste it into TB. It does not understand much more than Colored fonts, etc.. No tables, or anything fancy. At least that is as far as I can tell. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A taboo question.
Hello Tony, Saturday, November 29, 2003, 6:09:09 AM, you wrote: TB On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:53:12 -0700, Mark Thomas wrote: I should be able to create a web page with no external links, and paste it into the bat? Right? TB The Bat isn't very well equipped to deal with HTML the way you want. I TB personally would create the page in notepad and then zip the whole thing up TB including graphics and send it as an attachment. TB Pasting it into TB as plain text would make it display as plain text. TB TB will allow you to add inline graphics but I'm not sure about tables. TB -- TB TBAll the best, Tony. ©2ØØ3 - AWB TB TB Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: TB http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Thanks,, I thought I had just about tried everything. I did it as an attachment, the text came up first, attachement at the bottom of the screen in a tab, and on the left of the message view as message.html. OK, now I can quit banging my head against the wall. I let him use Lookout to send the postcard. I just don't like to open the darn program on my computer. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Several Spams that will not filter.
Hello everyone, First post, so hello to all! I get 5 or 6 Spams for digital cable filters daily, and for some really strange reason, I cannot get a filter to work on one of them. It is a text email, and I copy the text right out of the email Cable Filter and put it into the rule tab string cable filter location=anywhere and Yes. No other string but this one, re-run the filter, and nothing? I copy this out of the inbox, and paste it into notepad, and then re-select all and copy from notepad, back into The Bat, and send it back to myself. Damn if the stinking thing doesn't filter. Btw, every other filter I have is working just fine! See the second issue also. Maybe someone could create a filter with digital cable and test it on this email. Here is a copy of the text that I am receiving Hello , UNLOCK Digital Cable - FREE! ***NEWEST VERSION - Released October 4, 2003*** * Sporting PPVs like Wrestling Boxing * Adult Channels * Special Musical Concerts * Blockbuster New Release PPV Movies Cheapest Price on the NET !! Only $39 ! http://www.cooltoyz.biz/promo.php?id=93758 I can filter the message with the promo.php?id, but nothing else. I see something like this in an html email with text displayed on the screen, and a x box where the graphic should be. I was a bit confused with it also, until I copied and pasted the text into notepad. For some reason, the spammers are pasting White Text full of nonsence before and after the body of the email. Then they mask the text with invalid html to keep the filter from working. Each day, they change each one of the strings in the daily spam and creating filters is getting to be a pain for this one. This displays properly as: The ultimate digital cable filter pTh/machinelikee ul/belttimate d/postmarkigital ca/recuperateble f/assaultilter/p Any one have any good ideas for Spam 1 or 2? I still can't figure the Spam1 out! Looks like straight text to me! I have attached the html email, I changed the name, because I did not know if it would mess up the email, but it was a message.html. Thanks, Mark Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote of the Day: My Reality Check bounced. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Several Spams that will not filter.
Hello Simon, Here is the file zipped. I didn't use quotes in the actual string. Meaning it was not case sensitive, and should have worked? (Spam #1) 001.msg is the first mail that I was speaking about. 002.msg and the funkymessage.html is the second one with the White Text and invalid html tags. This spammer could be a real pain in the behind! Thanks for taking the time for me! -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, November 13, 2003, 3:23:57 AM, you wrote: S -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- S Hash: SHA1 S Hello Mark, S On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:33:56 -0700 your time, you said: MT Maybe someone could create a filter with digital cable and test MT it on this email. S Setting up a filter for Digital Cable (including quotes, which means S it's case sensitive) and choosing Location:anywhere works for me when S filtering this message, but then it should really. MT I have attached the html email, I changed the name, because I did MT not know if it would mess up the email, but it was a MT message.html. S No html attachments here (don't think they're allowed). If you want me S to test the *original* message export it as .msg file and rar or zip S it up and email it to me. I'll check it out then as well. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Several Spams that will not filter.
Hello Terry, I have the template installed in the new template section. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 (Experience) Novice at best with the bat. Confidence with filters (fairly good). BeginFilter Name: digital cable filter Active: 1 Source: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Target: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CopyFolder: none MainSet: 50cable filter AltSet:1: 30adult movies AltSet:2: 50payperview AltSet:3: 50digital cable Actions: faoHotKeyOnly (I tried this, it is now turned off) AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 32843 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, November 13, 2003, 3:37:47 AM, you wrote: T On Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 9:33 AM, Mark wrote: First post, so hello to all! T Hi Mark, T Welcome to the list. I get 5 or 6 Spams for digital cable filters daily, and for some really strange reason, I cannot get a filter to work on one of them. It is a text email, and I copy the text right out of the email Cable Filter and put it into the rule tab string cable filter location=anywhere and Yes. No other string but this one, re-run the filter, and nothing? I copy this out of the inbox, and paste it into notepad, and then re-select all and copy from notepad, back into The Bat, and send it back to myself. Damn if the stinking thing doesn't filter. Btw, every other filter I have is working just fine! See the second issue also. T 1. It always helps us to know what version of The Bat! you are using T and what version of the operating system you are using. Many people T use some form of the following in an address book template for T [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. T Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- T %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- T %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION T This will automatically insert the information in your e-mail whenever T you send an e-mail to this address. T I don't know your level of knowledge, so if you need any additional T help on templates, etc., let us know and we'll be happy to help you T out. T 2. If you are using version 2 of The Bat!, there is a plug-in called T BayesIt! (there's also another one but I can't remember the name) that T is an anti-spam plug-in. It will take care of these kinds of things T for you and save you tons of time as well. Trying to keep up with T inventive spammers by creating filters for each new wave of e-mail is T fun in the beginning, but quickly wears thin. You can get the plug-in T here. T http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm T If you are using version 1.62r or below, you can use any of the T anti-spam programs that are out there, such as Popfile, to take care T of this. These programs run on your computer and sit between The Bat! T and your mail server. Any one have any good ideas for Spam 1 or 2? I still can't figure the Spam1 out! Looks like straight text to me! T If you go to the filter and hit Control-C then it will copy that T filter. You can then paste it in your reply to this e-mail so we can T see how the filter is set up. I have attached the html email, I changed the name, because I did not know if it would mess up the email, but it was a message.html. T I'm pretty sure that the list doesn't allow attachments. At least I T didn't get one. See Number 2 above. T One other little housekeeping item. It's a list requirement to use a T signature delimiter. That's what the two - (dashes) followed by a T space is before the Regards in my signature below. The Bat! and T other mail clients will automatically discard anything below the T signature delimiter when you reply to a message. It definitely is a T time saver. This is also something that can be put in a template. T For example, my new message template to tbudl is: T %CURSOR T -- T Regards, T %FROMFNAME T Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- T %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- T %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Several Spams that will not filter.
Hello Simon, You should have it. I did not notice the list behind your name. I also posted the Ctrl-C of the filter I am using. You should see the same results. I think. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, November 13, 2003, 4:14:48 AM, you wrote: S -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- S Hash: SHA1 S Hello Mark, S On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:38:42 -0700 your time, you said: MT Here is the file zipped. S Oops, you've sent it to the list ;-) If you send it to the address in S the From field of my posts I'll get it (my email address is also S masked in my sig). Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting with cutmark (was: Several Spams that will not filter.)
Hello Marck, Thursday, November 13, 2003, 4:27:04 AM, you wrote: MDP Hi Mark, MDP @13-Nov-2003, 03:54 -0700 (13-Nov 10:54 UK time) Mark Thomas said to MDP Terry: I have the template installed in the new template section. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 MDP moderator MDP Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not MDP just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have MDP instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Mark. No problem. I take it constructively. It's been a long day! I changed the reply template around. I think I have it back to defaults. Does this look correct? -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Several Spams that will not filter.
Hello Peter, Thursday, November 13, 2003, 4:32:20 AM, you wrote: PA Hello Mark, PA Thursday, November 13, 2003, 10:33:56 AM, you wrote: I get 5 or 6 Spams for digital cable filters daily, and for some really strange reason, I cannot get a filter to work on one of them. PA Have you tried regular Inbox-filters or selective download filters? PA AFAIK selective download filters do not check the body, but only the PA header (or parts of it) of any mail. I am only working with Inbox filters. PA In case of inbox filters: What kind of action did you chose to be PA performed? Move to the trash folder. PA Have you tried placing the filter topmost, so that it is executed PA prior to all other (inbox-)filters (just to make sure it's not other PA filters that keep your new filter from working)? I have tried this. It has been in several locations. I just tested it at the top. Same story. PA Have you clicked ... PA Rule is PA [x] Active [x]Active and [ ]Manual not checked. PA ... on the very bottom of the Rule pane in the sorting office? PA An easy way to separate spam form regular mail is using SpamPal or PA PopFile, either alone or combined with some anti-spam plugin (be it PA BayesIt, Achim Winkler's bayesfilter-plugin or vampireX). PA There may be others as well, however, I'm using SpamPal and the PA BayesIt-plugin and combine them with a set of selective download PA filters. Works fine for me. I would like to figure out what is with this message. I am pretty sure that I have everything setup correctly. The message appears to be text, but even when I post it into a text editor, it seems to have some sort of formatting. I have a spam filter on my pobox.com account. This was rated 3/10. I get rid of most spam with The Bat filters. It is just 3 or 4 that really get on my nerves. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Several Spams that will not filter.
Hello tbudl, Thanks everyone. I appreciate your comments. I'll work on the plugins. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Quote of the Day: Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Several Spams that will not filter.
Hello Simon, Thursday, November 13, 2003, 5:54:48 AM, you wrote: S -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- S Hash: SHA1 S Hello Mark, S On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:49:36 -0700 your time, you said: PA Have you tried placing the filter topmost, so that it is executed PA prior to all other (inbox-)filters (just to make sure it's not PA other filters that keep your new filter from working)? MT I have tried this. It has been in several locations. I just tested MT it at the top. Same story. S I tried it with the .msg files you sent me. So far I can only get one S file to filter: the Sasha Mcneill [EMAIL PROTECTED] spam message S usingDigital Cableas the filter string, directly copied and S pasted from the _source_ I.e *View Source* and copy the S [sp]Digital[sp]Cable[sp] including the whitespaces and paste that into S the strings field. However, spam no2 is different. Simon, I'm back awake again after 2hrs. Please clarify the above statement. When I view source on Sasha Mcneill, I see plain text without quotes Digital Cable. Spaces before Digital and between Digital and Cable. Is this what you see, or is there actually a [sp] displayed? If there is no [sp], I wonder why my filter is not working?? If there IS [sp] what exactly did you do to view this? S The key to spam message no 2 is I think a combination of the MIME S Content-Type: multipart/alternative; header, a breaking of the RFC S standards, and exploiting the way in which unknown tags are handled in S HTML renderers. It seems to me that the it goes like this: S 1. Create a Content-Type: multipart/alternative; message. This is S done to send a multipart message containing a plaintext message and a S html message so if your mail client doesn't allow html viewing you get S to see a plain text message instead. S 2. Break the rules: deliberately fail to add a text/plain; declaration S after the MIME header as is required in the RFC and instead add the S html declaration first: Content-Type: text/html; as the second part S of the message. This means that the message will now *appear* to S display as text even though it's really html. S 3. Randomly pack out the HTML message part with useless tags: as we S know, all unknown tags in HTML are ignored so they don't show up and S nothing is rendered. S So you have no true plaintext to filter against because there isn't S any text part to the message, and the text in the html part of the S message is masked by phoney html tags so you can't get a full string S to filter against. S I'd definitely use SpamPal for this. I don't know whether there's a S way around it, but it would save a lot of headwork to use something S that would catch it without any problems. I appreciate this comment. So we are assuming that the developers of SpamPal have scratched their heads until Raw, and have figured these type of things out and build it into their software, and must continually update the definitions by subscription service that we download to stay up to date with the latest Spam techniques. Have I got this right? -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Top posting with cutmark
Hello Marck, Thursday, November 13, 2003, 5:20:59 AM, you wrote: MDP Hi Mark, MDP @13-Nov-2003, 04:37 -0700 (13-Nov 11:37 UK time) Mark Thomas said to MDP Marck: MDP .. Please don't feel singled out Mark. No problem. I take it constructively. It's been a long day! MDP Thanks for that! Apologies for the double whammy too. Looks like MDP Allie and I are both on and in vigilance mode :-). I changed the reply template around. I think I have it back to defaults. Does this look correct? MDP Perfection incarnate! :-). Thanks guys! You don't know unless you ask, and if you don't know to ask, you are really at a disadvantage. Thanks for your comments and guidance. -- Best regards, Markmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML errors in inbound emails
Hello tbudl, Hey guys, I have been having this error message alot: === Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0058440E in module 'THEBAT.EXE'. Read of address 0178C190 = It started showing up, I think in 1.62r, and has been with me through the current version. I have also loaded a fresh W2K computer with all patches, etc.. with nothing else on it. I get the same errors. I have reported to the bug team, and it appears that they are surprised that I still have errors. The exact email that gives the error will display properly on any machine after the error, if I exit the bat, and re enter it. Once I get the errors again, I continue to get them worse and worse, until I exit and re-start The Bat again. I don't blame The Bat, and it appears that they are trying to build better errors in for this, but is this just me, or is there many other people experiencing the same problem? -- Best regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Quote of the Day: Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
