Re: Can't store downloaded emails.
Hi, Nick OHare wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I tried to download again, but received the same error. At first I thought Win2000 was choking on something, but then as a test I tried downloading from another account and everything downloaded fine. Has anyone else encountered this problem? And hopefully discovered a solution? Could it be that some virus/spam checker interferes? Try disabling either/both and download again (at your own risk). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/40 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Not displaying JPG file
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : What happens when you attach the saved JPG to a new email. Can you then open it with the internal viewer? No. Same situation: with the internal viewer, it is just blank, and when I click on it, Irfanview reports JPG Err#53. This sounds like an invalid JPG that was created with Photoshop. Do you have somebody with Photoshop who might try to open the file and save it in a different format? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.01.56 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message/Bericht
Hi, I wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I think it comes from broken reply templates (broken in the way that they do not work properly under 2.0 anymore). I withdraw this assumption. I concur with others that it comes from the HTML parser. It might already showing this behavior when an original message is displayed (and not a reply generated). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.01.7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ANNOYING!
Hi, St - Musaic.Net wrote: This has been noticed, you should change something in the body of the email, then switching back to the headers doesn't alter the top part... So is it not a bug? I can't imagine this is how it should be! If I'm not mistaken the developer(s?) are aware of this and have introduced a new macro (oh no, no another one :) in the current beta series that changes headers only once. (At least that is how I understood Stefan's explanation.) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.01.7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FYI: IMAP and GMX
Hi, for those fellow Bat users that have a Pro account with GMX I thought I'd provide the following snippet of information. I noticed that my IMAP to GMX connection frequently gets disconnected by the server. I contacted GMX's support about this and received as an answer that problems might occur when using The Bat for IMAP access. The statement went on to say that GMX can offer no solution. Great. I wish they had told me what exactly causes those problems. I suggest that other The Bat GMX users with IMAP problems also contact GMX and see if they get better answers. Make yourselves heard. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.01.3 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX (Mailprovider)
Hi, Oliver wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I did some test with IMAP and GMX and discovered some problems: 1. I create a new folder in The Bat. It is shown correct within GMX, but I have to restart The Bat to see the folder. Have you tried the IMAP folder management dialog, it should find the new folder. 2. Existing folders using umlauts are shown very funny within the Bat (e.g. PersAPY-nlich instead of Persönlich) This has already been reported, it is a known issue and it will hopefully be addressed. 3. I cann't create subfolders. Is that not supportet by GMX? Yes, as far as I know, GMX currently does not support folder nesting. BTW... What is the correct setting to get all messages and than delete it it at the server automatically? I can't help you with that. What you want is like emulating POP3 but via IMAP with multiple folders. Perhaps somebody else can help. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inline images (I know, I know...)
Hi, Steve Hill wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I know this subject has been done to death, but please don't switch off yet... Apparently the subtle nuances between inline and external images haven't been discussed enough. As I previously understood it, TB wasn't able to show inline images in HTML mail, and while this is something I wouldn't mind having, I readily accepted this as being outweighed by all TB's great features which I could now not be without. Here begins your misunderstanding. TB is able to display *inline* images in HTML formatted mails (when they referenced properly and when they are really *inline*, ie. sent along with the message as attachments). However, today I received an email (promotional, sort of SPAM) with an inline image showing actually as part of the email (as well as an attachment, as is the norm). My question is this... why is this possible with this email but not with all the HTML newsletters and promotions I receive from the likes of Amazon, BBC, etc. Because those mails do not contain *inline* images but rather only references to images (and sometimes other nasty stuff) somewhere out on the net. Other email applications would try to fetch theses images when displaying the message. (And that leads to many undesired side-effects (just google for web bugs and html and message tracking).) Apologies if this is obvious, or already covered elsewhere. Although I have been using TB for a while, I have really only skimmed the surface of it's full potential, so still consider myself a bit of a newb. No problem. Ask a reasonable question and you get a reasonable answer. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hi, Miguel A. Urech wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I only use POFile to classify spam and no-spam but I am quite sure it would probably work just fine to classify messages according to language. After all, it builds a word list or dictionary for each bucket. If I have time to try it I will let you know. I actually used POPFile to do language recognition and it was quite good at it. I've never come around to hone my templates accordingly, it was just an experiment. Most of my communication is in English so I have the Bat set to spell check in that language. If I need to switch languages during editing I simply use Alt-H L and pick the language I am writing in. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Authentification
Hi, Barry Higginbottom wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I am changing my email account with my ISP. The new account when used with OE requires the My server requires authentification checkbox to be checked. What is the equivalent setting in TB? There seem to be so many settings I don't know which to tick! Navigate to Account/Properties/Transport Under Send mail you'll find the button Authentication, click it and put a checkmark next to Perform SMTP Authentication (RFC 2554). Change further settings in this dialog as they apply to your circumstances. HTH. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/6 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ex-Eudora user - Things I Miss
Hi, Nigel Floyd wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 1. A setting which allowed me to limit the size of individual attachments. Plus the associated ability to chose whether or not to download them once I had been notified that they were available on the server. And had checked that they were from a bona fide source. Is this function available anywhere in The Bat, please? Account/Properties/Mail management Activate option Receive message headers only if message size is greater than ... Then use the so called Dispatcher (Account/Dispatch mail on server) to explicitly download big messages. HTH Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/6 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. I guess it is useful in a multi-user environment where the Bat functions as mail gateway (in the so-called Client mode and/or Server mode). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: syntactically invalid HELO argument
Hi, Phil wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : How can I find out what the Bat is sending out? I've managed to send out messages by switching to the myrealbox smtp server and seeing what is in the headers when the message arrives but I guess the info is different depending on the Server. I could see nothing to do with HELO in the headers whereas when I send stuff with OE via claranet I can see the HELO greeting in the header. Most of the time you won't find any such information in an email's headers. (Sometimes it appears in some messages in the Received headers.) Right now I have the suspicion that it is the way your computer name appears (or rather doesn't) in the greeting. I'm hoping for somebody else confirming this. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: syntactically invalid HELO argument
Hi, Phil wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I changed my computer name some time ago to remove the underscore but there must be some registry setting being picked up that still contains the old name. Does anyone have any ideas where this might be? I'm glad you were able to find the problem. I'd do a search through the registry for your old name. You might also check your computer's name in the network settings (but you probably already did that). Perhaps your computer also resolves its own name using any of these files: hosts or LMHOSTS. They are plain text files and reside somewhere in some subdirectory of your computer's system directory. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: syntactically invalid HELO argument
Hi, Phil Bingham wrote in msgid:000501c2c14a$873da520$2e01000a@valeprb : I've just started getting this message when attempting to send messages with TB. Since this message is being sent via exactly the same route, I presume that I have inadvertently changed a setting somewhere! Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? In opening the communication with a mail server a so-called HELO greeting is issued by the mail client. The 'language' used in the communication between your mail client and a mail server is called SMTP. It looks like the mail server you are using to send out your mail doesn't like the way TB introduces itself. The bat usually starts its communication with EHLO and the name of your computer*. By saying EHLO rather than HELO the Bat declares that it is capable of speaking extended SMTP (which is now widely 'spoken'). There could be two issues: - the mail server doesn't like to be approached with a EHLO greeting - the way your computer's name appears in the greeting is not liked by the mail server In the first case the Bat should fall back to a HELO greeting and mail client and mail server should keep on talking to each other. If this is the case I don't know why this isn't happening. In the last case you'd have to dive deeper to see what OE uses to start the communication and what the Bat uses. The following information might be helpful in tracking down the problem: - Is there any more information in the Bat's logs (Shift-Ctrl-A or Account/View log)? - What type of mail server is the Bat talking to? Regards, Markus *I'm not sure but it could also be that the Bat does it wrong by not using your computer's name in the greeting but rather the name of the computer it is talking to. I can't verify it it on my machine since I am doing various weird things with my outgoing mail. Perhaps somebody else can confirm this. -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I love the Bat , but why can't the Bat allow me to edit HTMLdocuments or read my USENET news groups. Standard Email features
Hi, Robert Silver wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: I love the Bat , but why can't the Bat allow me to edit HTML documents or read my USENET news groups. Standard Email features (1) HTML was never intended for email use, it is mostly being abused in an email context (2) Reading/writing USENET news is something different than handling email Those are not standard email features. They have been wrapped into email clients by other companies and they made a bad job at it and have thus set a quasi-standard which led you to believe those are standard features. Anyway... (1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner (2) Have the option of viewing HTML pages in its viewer. The double clicking attachments is cumbersome. It would be much better if that feature was simply optional and utilized function calls to existing browser code like Hotmetal used to do or other HTML editors could. RIT Labs has given in and (1) and (2) will come in future releases. :( (3) Read NNTP News Groups Many prefer using a separate client for that, yet future releases might also implement that. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/4 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ALT-L strips spaces?
Hi, Gavin Sinclair wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Why is this so? Must I surrender my beloved sentence layout? The habit of putting two spaces after every sentence dates back to the era of the typewriter. Whether one should stick to it is debatable. (Sources: http://www.raycomm.com/techwhirl/archives/9602/techwhirl-9602-00470.html http://www.webword.com/reports/period.html http://desktoppub.about.com/library/weekly/blrules-spaces.htm http://www.evolt.org/article/Two_Spaces_After_a_Period_Isn_t_Dead_Yet/25/213/) As far as the word wrapping of the Bat is concerned: it is just harder (impossible?) to come up with an algorithm that takes two spaces at the end of sentences into account. How should this algorithm distinguish between abbreviations and sentence ending periods (full stops)? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ALT-L strips spaces?
Hi, Peter Palmreuther wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : All in all I don't see the down side of The Bat! stripping the double spaces to single ones. This is still e-mail and not a typewriting competition and it seems we're all able to read texts even if sentences are isolated by single spaces. Peter, could you please re-write this paragraph? I was unable to read it because it lacked spaces after sentence-ending punctuation marks. SCNR (BTW I encountered the double-space-after-periods discussion only in English speaking groups. It has never occurred in German discussion groups. Apparently it originated only in English typography style guides.) (Now what I really don't understand is people using justified text in a non-proportial font environment. That really looks ugly.) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and simple MAPI
Hi, Gerd Ewald wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I'm not sure whether I am up-to-date, but AFAIR TB always prompted for a password even if you don't have one; you only had to press Enter... It is still like that. I'm not sure but it might be only when the Bat is not running. Or it might also depend on the version of the MAPI handler that came with the Bat. (I think I noticed different behavior depending on if the Bat was an old installation and only the exe had been updated or if it was a fresh clean install.) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to ged rid of attachments from message base ?
Hi, Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It might help to know that there is View|Display|only msg with attachments There is also another quick way to filter what you see. Click on any item (read/unread, attachment, parked, flagged, name, subject, date) in the summary view while keeping the Alt key depressed and only similar messages will be displayed. This display filter is kept active in all folders until you press the Esc key. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Hi, John Phillips wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : How easy is it to import address details into Bat! from Outofluck/ Any tricks to watch out for? AFAIK it should be rather easy. I think the only known problem happens with contacts' birthday formats. If you can do not import them. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pictures
Hi, Thomas Martin wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : BTW How do you get that English apostrophe (in it´s etc) on a German PC keyboard?!? It was on Alt-ä on my Amiga... ALT + 3 + 9 SHIFT-# also does it. Many people wrongly use ` or ´ (accents). The typographical correct 'curly' apostrophe as it may be used in word processing is not in the regular character set used in common email, the ' is the character to be used here. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, I wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GMX has proudly announced that subscribers with professional accounts may now also access their email via IMAP. Yet, they currently have it only optimized for Outlook and Outlook Express (newer Netscape versions may also work but they are not officially supported yet). Well, for the people following this thread, I have new information. Upon my query I received a reply from GMX. Here's the gist: Some of the currently unsupported IMAP commands will become implemented during the next weeks/months. Thus, sooner or later all RFC-compliant mail programs should be able to use IMAP access. Well, I don't know why there should be commands that aren't implemented yet; does MS use a different command set? Anyway, I'll see what happens. (Interesting: what will happen first, GMX supporting the Bat's IMAP or the Bat supporting (a better) IMAP.) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Although I couldn't work out why they were writing their own system as their are plenty of IMAP servers about, unless they're using complete custom software for all parts of their systems including the dial-up db, account information, and system storage, in which case it'd make a little more sense. Your conclusions are congruent with mine. I think the benefit of working with a self-brewed system lies in its opacity, ie. exploits or vulnerabilities won't be widely known. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : As has been said before, TB!s IMAP support is very... restricted in the fact that it treats IMAP as a multi-folder POP3 server, instead of true IMAP. I accept that and are willing to work with it until the world is saved and TB!2 comes out. There is a possibility that if GMX sorts the servers out, you could read the mail. GMX is not very talkative. This is their banner greeting: OK GMX IMAP4 StreamProxy ready. But I'm pretty sure they brew their own under some Linux flavor. Anybody know if I can enable some kind of extensive session logging in the Bat? (I wouldn't want to work with TCP/IP sniffers.) I would like to see where the communication fails (currently IMAP folders are listed but they all appear to be empty). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, thank you Jonathan for sticking with this thread. Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I did a google search for just imap streamproxy and all the references I found were pointing to GMX's POP3 and IMAP servers miss-behaving in some awful way, like breaking RFCs in ways you'd not believe. I did the same. Most references were about Fetchmail and GMX. - From what I have seen, I cannot seem to find any but the name StreamProxy, but I keep seeing plenty of Java references. Maybe they have an unusual proxy system to do load sharing. That is also my conclusion. Their POP3 service replies with the same banner. Anybody know if I can enable some kind of extensive session logging in the Bat? (I wouldn't want to work with TCP/IP sniffers.) I would like to see where the communication fails (currently IMAP folders are listed but they all appear to be empty). Telnet is your friend :) # telnet server 143 A01 LOGIN user pass [...] Hope that gives you some ideas :) I already played around with telnet. Yet, it appears GMX supports as sole AUTH method MD5-CRAM and I didn't want to figure that out manually. Apparently the Bat gets beyond the authentication and it also lists the mailboxes. That's why I'd like to log what is going on between the Bat and GMX. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, GMX has proudly announced that subscribers with professional accounts may now also access their email via IMAP. Yet, they currently have it only optimized for Outlook and Outlook Express (newer Netscape versions may also work but they are not officially supported yet). I tried it and did not get it to work with the latest Bat. I can see all folders in my accounts (with broken umlauts) but they all appear empty in the Bat's IMAP 'Dispatcher'. Now I'm waiting for either of the following to happen: - better IMAP support in the Bat - GMX supporting the Bat's way of IMAP - somebody else proving that it works with the current Bat Any other experiences, comments? Regards, Markus P.S.: This messages has been posted before on the the Bat off-topic list but apparently there aren't any GMX pro account users there. I posting to this list to find out if anyone here is sharing my experiences. -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : They also say that support for other mail clients will follow shortly. I also read their announcement with interest. Yet, I'm not inclined to sit back and wait. I don't know why IMAP support depends so much on the client used, but according to their mailing, there is no reason to assume that this first version should work with TB at all. I recall having read somewhere that MS products speak a different dialect of IMAPrev4. I set up an IMAP server once where one setting was along the lines of support broken OE IMAP -yes. Thus, don't worry. Be patient until they say that IMAP support should work with all mail clients. If it still won't work with TB, contact GMX first. Again, unless the pressure rises I don't think GMX will put much effort into supporting other IMAP 'dialects'. Sadly we are in no position to claim that the Bat speaks proper IMAP. We simply do not know if the limited IMAP support that the Bat currently has is 'proper' or 'improper'. Yet I know for sure that it at least is able to work with fastmail and other mail providers. Anybody here that knows about the differences in IMAP support? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Wait until TB!2 comes out first... The 1.6 series of TB has bad IMAP support ;) Very funny. This could become a running joke. Wait for TB!2 Q: When will we have world peace? A: Wait for TB!2. Q: Why did the dinosaurs become extinct? A: They couldn't wait for TB!2. Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? A: It had spotted TB!2 on the other side. Anybody here that knows about the differences in IMAP support? Depends what you mean... or in regards to what. I'm a developer on a popular web based IMAP4rev1 client ;) Well, why can a provider claim their IMAP service supports only specific clients (in the case of GMX: Outlook 2002, OE 6, and Netscape mail up to version 4.x (but not version 7.x or Mozilla 1.x))? What are the differences? Where - though limited - would the Bat fit in? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hi, Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : As has been said before, TB!s IMAP support is very... restricted in the fact that it treats IMAP as a multi-folder POP3 server, instead of true IMAP. There is a possibility that if GMX sorts the servers out, you could read the mail. Thank you, that is close to what I wanted to hear. I doubt that GMX uses MS IMAP servers. Yet, I'll telnet to their IMAP server and see if I get a banner giving me more information. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Hi, Richard Evans wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I thought .msg was an internet standard ? No, Internet standards and file name extensions are not connected. Yet, the file's contents should follow the 'standard' RFC-822 (and related RFCs). if not any ideas about how to forward html mails to outlook users in one piece ? Perhaps this works: save the original message as .EML and attach that file to a new message which you'd sent to your recipient. When the Bat saves a file as EML _or_ MSG the content is the same. It is just that other mail programs are pickier about the file name extension. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files
Hi, Richard Evans wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : My Mother [...] has a friend whom I believe is using Outlook on XP who insists she cannot open .msg files. I think the problem might be just the extension. If they are named .eml they might be openable. Yet, I don't know how to convince the Bat to name the forwarded files .eml, sorry. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Student, Private, and Business versions
Hi, Jonathan Chattin wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Hmmm, I've never been very fond of the whole Human Right argument. To be honest it is fairly silly. Nature doesn't guarantee anything. Therefore it is somewhat irrational to assume that one has a right to anything simply because one exists. This doesn't mean that I think you should just accept whatever others try to force on you. One should protect whatever one has, be it privacy or anything else, and strive to improve ones life. Ok, enough armchair philosophy I'll stop now. Should you decide to do some more armchair philosophy, you might check out Hobbes (not the Calvin kind) or Locke and whatthey have to say about natural rights. :) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Student, Private, and Business versions
Hi, Jonathan Chattin wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I'm always looking for a good book. Is there a particular title that you recommend? Hobbes's Leviathan is not an easy read, but here it is: http://www.orst.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/hobbes/leviathan-contents.html I'm leaving this thread now. It's already Dead Horse material (dog food comes to mind). Last OT remark, though, can a thread that also revolves around basic freedoms be silenced? :) Regards, Markus P.S.: An OU alumnus pointing to an OSU site, tsts. -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: flashing screen
Hi, Jan Rifkinson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : No, I rarely if ever encounter GDI problems. At least, I don't remember the last time it happened. Then I'm out of explanations; yet not out of questions. What happens when you change your display settings to different resolutions/refresh settings? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: flashing screen
Hi, Jan Rifkinson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Wondering if any of you have the same experience: When TB! is d/l mail my screen flashes [blinks], the cursor jumps around so, essentially, any other work is impossible. I guess this is related to my graphics board which, otherwise, is stable. Thankfully, I have DSL so d/l doesn't take long but any suggestions how to smooth this out? This sounds like a problem with graphics resources and the connection cent[e|r]. Do you encounter GDI problems (no handle etc.) frequently? This is just a pointer. I wouldn't have a fix for this. I encountered something similar with another application once and updating the graphics driver miraculously solved the issue. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tricky one - filtering out messages with NO subject?
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I would suggest to check for the presence of the letter e. It is the most common letter in the English language. Oh, is it, truly? I didn't know. SCNR Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RTF
Hi, Paul Wilson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : My company uses Lotus Notes, (No Choice), I made a simple suggestion 3 months ago to set the default to text only. Three weeks ago I received a bonus check for the suggestion, because the company is saving so much on bandwidth and storage space now. This sounds very interesting and encouraging. Was security an issue as well? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Killing other subject prefixes than Re:
Hi, there seems to be a misunderstanding. You can't edit incoming messages, but you can alter the way outgoing messages look. Vincent - D. Ertner wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Isn't it then definitely a point for the wish list? I end up very often in about ten times with Re: Antwort: Re: ... There's a macro you can use in your own reply templates, here's what I use: %Subject=Re:%SetPattRegExp=(?i)\A\:?((\s*(re|aw|ha|rcpt|fw|fwd|forw|antwort)(\[\d*\])?:\s*)*)(\s*)(.*?)(\s*\z)%RegExpBlindMatch=%OSubj%SubPatt=6 More such patterns can be found on the FAQ page. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Nothing to send
Hi, does anyone know why the Bat sometimes tells me that there is Nothing to send while I have a lot of messages in my outbox? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nothing to send
Hi, Britt Malka wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : This happens often if I am already sending and I ask The Bat! to send again. I've noticed that it happens every time after I interrupted the sending session (the connection to the SMTP server). The Bat seems to think that a message has been sent once a connection to the SMTP server had been established. The Bat doesn't notice that the message hadn't been sent at all. I have to restart the Bat to get the messages sent. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nothing to send
Hi, Marcus Ohlström wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Probably because messages are saved like drafts and therefore parked. No, they aren't. They appear just like any other ready-to-go message in the Outbox; I know about parked messages. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nothing to send
Hi, Tim Musson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I see the same thing here, but I just open the message in the outbox and pick the Put the letter in Outbox icon. Now when I pick the Send queued mail button, it goes. I know that works, but I have about a hundred such messages in my outbox (no, not spam). I can't open every single one. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board
Hi, Don Zeigler wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a message board? Would you be interested in moderating a forum? How many forums would be required? I know that there is a German message board dedicated to the Bat. Perhaps somebody who frequents both, that board and this list, could chip in with her or his experiences. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments aren't removed from 'attach' folder
Hi, Salvador Esque wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : No, it doesn't help. Attachments still remain there... AFAIK this bug is known and will be addressed in the next release (whenever that may be). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Charset ISO-8859-6 (Arabic) - how?
Hi, I need to be able to recognize email written in Arabic. How can I achieve that? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MAPI
Hi, mm Meister wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : So, the current status is this: mailto: links call The Bat! if it is online. I haven't tested to see if it will initiate dialup. mailto: handling is independent from MAPI handling, AFAIK. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Charset ISO-8859-6 (Arabic) - how?
Hi, Roelof Otten wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Do you need to recognize the fact that an e-mail is written in Arabic or do you need to view the message in an Arabic character set? In the first case, you could filter on a string that mentions the correct charset in the kludges. In the latter case you'd need an Arabic font and I'm not sure whether they are fixed width like TB needs. I need to prove that the sender announces the body wrongly as iso-8859-1 while it should be iso-8859-6 (if I'm not mistaken). I need to see the characters. I'll find out if the Bat can display it once I can get it to recognize the charset. I have some unicode fonts installed. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Charset ISO-8859-6 (Arabic) - how?
Hi, Roelof Otten wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Export the message to .msg and edit the content-type header to show the right number. As it's plain text you can edit it with notepad. See if it helps. I already did that. I still need iso-8859-6 support in the Bat. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MAPI limits
Hi, Markus Gloede wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It appears that the Bat's MAPI acceptor has limits regarding body size. I haven't counted it but it is likely that only 256 or so characters make it into the body. Sorry, false alert. Something is wrong with my query. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta6 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you move to the original message?
Hi, Richard Wakeford wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Ctrl + Backspace Not here it doesn't :-( I get this message is addressed to you but mot marked as replied Select a message that you replied to (visualized by some arrow icon on the envelope) and hit Ctrl+Backspace, that should work. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is IMAP still limited support in The Bat?
Hi, Gonzalo Servat wrote in msgid:00c901c270c9$da664cb0$2001a8c0apollo : are there any other mail clients for Windows that handle IMAP well and are customizable? Did you look at Mulberry (http://www.cyrusoft.com/) yet? Here's a comparison of IMAP clients: http://www.ncsu.edu/imap/clientgrid.html Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crashes through HTML mail?
Hi, Dierk Haasis wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Anybody else encountering such behaviour. Try to keep track of GDI resources. The HTML parser might use them all up. I don't know what tools are out there to check GDI usage on Win98, though. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: glyphs
Hi, Ron Secord wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Bear in mind that the site is, I believe, Dutch but you can get the glyphs anyway. I don't intend to correct Ron (the site is German), but I'd like to get this of my chest: Even though the Pennsylvania Dutch were originally Germans, Dutch != German. What adds the the widespread confusion is that in German the adjective and the name of the language German is Deutsch, which most English speakers pronounce 'dutch' (this probably started the misnomer for the Pennsylvania Dutch). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
Hi, Ron Secord wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I did a search w/ Google and came up with this link. Bear in mind that the site is, I believe, Dutch but you can get the glyphs anyway. Have fun! http://www.bat.caschy.org/glyphs/index.html FWIW, my favorite is set #7, it enhances contrasts and thus facilitates recognizing button and icon meanings. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
Hi, Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : If you are borh usinf #7 please tell me what the last symbol is? (Bottom row far left) Far left? That would be Valid certificate. Or do you mean far right, something that resembles a pen? My guess is that this stands for the action sign (not sure where it appears). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
Hi, Deborah W wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : They're in The Bat directory, in Win Explorer they show up fine. But however many times I close down TB restart it, I still have the same old glyphs. Any ideas? Check under Options/Preferences/General, there is one option use high color images, perhaps that makes a difference. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: startup
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 4) If you don't want it to check mail on startup, change the account properties | Options to *not* check for mail on startup. And what can be done if the Bat is not running and I want to start it (just this once) without checking for mail? I've looked for a way to do this after returning from a longer trip. I wanted to clean up the inbox on the server before donloading all unwanted stuff. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: startup
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Turn off the option as above and use the /CHECK or /CHECKALL parameter for the normal startup icon parameters. Then you need only use a vanilla TB startup icon to stop it checking. I can only do that when the Bat is running and it checks my accounts right when I start it. :( What I would need is a command line option /NOCHECK. I guess next time I go on a trip I have to disable checking in all accounts before I close the Bat. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: startup
Hi, Feli Wilcke wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : don't forget the hardware option, as Thomas suggested and plug off the line. I also considered this option. Yet, I guess my PC doesn't like to be disconnected from its domain controller. Thank y'all for your suggestions. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Which account for MAPI calls?
Hi, I know I can set which account handles mailto: URLs, but can I also change which account handles MAPI (send to) calls? It seems that only my first account in my list of accounts gets used. Any ideas? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which account for MAPI calls?
Hi, I in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It seems that only my first account in my list of accounts gets used. Any ideas? Well, I tried moving another account to the top but that didn't help. It seems the Bat uses the first account that has been created. :( Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: SUX
Hi, Thomas F. wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : SUX is the airport code of Sioux Falls, Indiana. No, it's actually Sioux City, Iowa: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSUX :) Replies and followups to TBOT, please. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FAQ Submission: Re: Done - Re: Move message store and executables?
Hi, thanks, Tim, for your findings. Tim Musson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : regedit /e TheBatRegBU.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\rit Is this the same command under all flavors of Windows, I recall there were differences. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Done - Re: Move message store and executables?
Hi, Tim Musson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : [on moving the Bat's folder locations] As suggested, I changed ,- [ Before ] | [...CURRENT_USER\software\rit\The Bat!] | Working Directory=D:\\The Bat!\\MAIL\\ | EXE path=D:\\The Bat!\\thebat.exe `- to ,- [ After ] | [...CURRENT_USER\software\rit\The Bat!] | Working Directory=E:\\MAIL\\ | EXE path=C:\Program Files\\The Bat!\\thebat.exe `- When I started TB, I needed to associate it as the default eMail client again. Congratulations. Could this find its way into the FAQ, Marck? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
SOT: ToFu (was: 2 Problems - 1) Wordwrap 2) Exit...)
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : * I accept that there are some business circumstances where you are forced to top quote. I urge you to adopt this conversational reply format in preference wherever possible. In German lists this is called tofu quoting (cf. http://www.vranx.de/mail/tofu.html (an English explanation)). We had some occurrences where OE users unknowingly forwarded internal comments (one time even with a derogatory remark) to clients. Thank you MS. :( For people that insist on using OE I recommend this piece of software: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/quotefix.php (it also colorizes the display of quotes (only the _display_ - not making the message rich text or HTML). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Move message store and executables?
Hi, Tim Musson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Will probably try this weekend... and yes I will post my results. Well, did you try, did it work? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Move message store and executables?
Hi, Tim Musson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sorry, I had a birthday party for my 6yo and a wedding for a cousin on Saturday, then a 'dog' picnic all day Sunday. By the time I got home, it was wiped! OK, you are excused. :) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Move message store and executables?
Hi, Sergey Uvarov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Simply move TB! directory wherever you want and mail too. After this. Change registry keys in Current User/Software/RIT/Thebat! Keys to change: Working directory EXE Path Are all other paths stored relatively to the working directory? Tim, could you please post if Sergey's trick worked? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: I hate HTML mail
Hi, Thomas F wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Why not? When I receive HTML mails with embedded objects, they display fine. Just click on the tab below the message. A work-around is to click on the HTML attachment. The whole HTML message will then display in the system-default browser. This doesn't always work. I think it depends on the attachment storage option and on the Content Disposition MIME tag. I know that there are HTML messages that display fine (with images) within the bat but the images come up empty when the HTML part is opened with a browser. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60q/Post6/newhtml under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: customize toolbar?
Hi, Bernd Gauweiler wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Is there a way to customize the toolbar? Not currently, no. obligatory crystal ball comment Perhaps in version 2. /obligatory crystal ball comment Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60q under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TB! with Microsoft Exchange
Hi, Mike Corredera wrote in msgid:F19E4B06A9D8D5119A1900B0D07DBD4C2D5040@ARTEMIS_2 : Has anyone been able to get TB! to work with Microsoft Exchange Server? My work is running MS Exchange 5.5 Enterprise Edition. Please help It works here. SMTP and POP3 (or IMAP4) protocols must be running and you must use the proper user name syntax (/NTdomain/Exchange Alias or NTdomain/domain userID/Exchange). One known issue is that the message size reported by Exchange when mails are fetched is wrong. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60q under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TB! with Microsoft Exchange
Hi, sorry if I raised your hopes. Bernd Gauweiler wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Wow, the alternative (second) syntax is new to me. Please confirm [NT domain]/[NT user]/Exchange, as in SOME_DOMAIN/nt_user/Exchange - is it that what you mean? Sorry, can't confirm, it's just guesswork. What does the /Exchange suffix do: is that a constant, or is it the name of the Exchange mailbox? More to the point: with the second syntax you mention, which mailbox will Exchange try to log on to? The one whose name equals the NT user name? Yes, with Exchange the mailbox name was meant. I only got the first variation to work, and I had to change the mailbox alias to equal the NT user name. Works for me, but annoys other users of my server. Please advise. The interwovenness of NT login name, alias and mailbox name (if they are separate things) is also opaque to me. For me the login works with just the alias without any NT domain stuff. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60q under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Yahoo bounces my mail (may be OT)
Hi, John Phillips wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Yahoo has been receiving soft and hard bounces (whatever they are Last error message is No MX or A records for bigpond.com What does this mean? This means that Yahoo is unable to determine to which IP address they should forward/deliver mail that is intended for addresses @bigpond.com. Bigpond.com is the largest isp in Australia. Any clues how to fix this? I checked and there are in fact entries (of the A and MX type) for bigpond.com: bigpond.com.3600MX 10 extmail.bigpond.com. extmail.bigpond.com.3600A 144.135.25.8 The MX DNS entry tells us that mail for bigpond.com is handled by extmail.bigpond.com and this server can be reached under 144.135.25.8. This seems to be a problem on yahoo's side, there's not very much you can do. Hopefully they might get the DNS resolving in a better shape eventually. In the meantime you might try sending mail to username@[144.135.25.8] but I'm not sure if this works. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60q under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Ravi Joshi wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 1. When composing the original message in TB!!, in my cogeco.ca acct. the message encoding is showing as Latin-1 (ISO 8859-1). 2. After I save the message as a *.msg file the encoding shows as None My guess: ISO 8859-1 is your default encoding set, when the message gets saved the Bat notices that there are no 8 bit characters in it so none (plain ASCII) is just fine. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to flood with complaints? Well, they seem to have other problems as well. Their web site is down (www.cogeco.ca or www.cogeco.com). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to flood with complaints? Their web site (which is, as I mentioned before, currently down) mentions [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm posting this address since it is also visible on their Error Occurred While Processing Request page.) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : In the light of these events, should we ask the developers to make the X-mailer field an option or one that can be changed? Even though I agree that this should be optional, our current findings about this cable service/ISP should not be the reason to hide what we are using with pride. No, we will not bend! Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Ravi Joshi wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have indicated I will send them the entire thread discussed on TBUDL! So we'll see what they find. Please do not do this or at least anonymize names and addresses or leave them out. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
Hi, Marcus Ohlström wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. It should be run by a serious company, I do not want an open relay server but a service I can subscribe to and trust for a long time. Anyone know a company that offers such a service? I'm also looking for something along these lines. To clarify Marcus's request (as I understood it): he is looking for a service that allows relaying (with different From addresses). GMX, web.de and, AFAIK, fastmail only accept mails for relaying when they contain one of their From addresses. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
Hi, Eric wrote: I don't use any company service. I've installed Mercury/32 on my own XP system as a SMTP server and client and I can send mails without depending on my ISP. (it's a freeware http://www.pmail.com/whatsnew/new_m32.htm). Nice idea. But there are many SMTP servers out there that might reject mails coming from your private mail server because a PTR or recursive MX lookup fails. In other words: mail might get rejected because it doesn't come from a known mail server. And what about unreachable hosts, does your local mail server retry delivery? Regards, Markus Gloede Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: IMAP login
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Does anyone here know how to configure TB to perform a login to an Exchange Server (on NT4) using IMAP? TB is running on NT4, sp6, and with administrator rights. I have heard from a user (not on this list) who is having problems trying to login. I can only give hints. Does the Exchange server require NT authentication, this could be a problem. Also, even when authenticating via regular IMAP it might be required to use the full domain/mailbox path (e.g. /NTdomain/Exchange Alias or NTdomain/domain userID/Exchange Alias) in the user name field. Experimenting with the user name might help. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
Hi, Gary wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Ok, I know very few people use ROT13 these days, but I do find it usefull occassionaly to 'encrypt' flame bait so as to keep it from bothering people on a list yet still feel like I had my say. [...] If its not supported, anyone know of a nice plug in that I could use? And heck, if I'm using a plug in, is there one that will do ROT(N) so I can be even a little more off the wall? There used to be an XLAT table for just that purpose. (Later) Ah yes, there it is: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: BSOD
Hi, Pete Milne wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : When I double click an html link in the bat...Opera opens up but sometimes I get a BSOD with this error. Would this have anything to do with TB!?? (This is W2K) The only reason I ask regarding TB! is it mentions the word mail in the error. ;o) [...] The dwatch monitor for dmail servers service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the path specified. Check your system. You seem to be running additional software called dmail (dwatch is part of this). This should be unrelated to The Bat! Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Still, this is going way OT and I must insist that any replies on this side theme shift to TBOT or off-list from here. Ok, I'll take it there. I thank all participants in this thread for their remarks. I'm afraid I have to deal with our IT 'administrators'. Those were the same people that brought you 'Why should an MX entry be important?' and 'Why shouldn't we have two different IPs (one of them private) for the same mail server on a public DNS?' and, finally 'What's a DNS for, anyway?'. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
Hi, Adam wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Is there some confusion of what decides it, this or folder template? A folder template overrides an account template. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?
Hi, our administrators are threatening to disable POP3 on our Exchange server. They claim they are getting to many foreign (invalid) connection attempts and this is slowing down the server overall. I have a hard time believing this but I'm not in the position to tell them that there assumptions are wrong. If they really disable POP3 it would mean that I would have to give up the Bat! and my productivity would decrease tremendously. Any suggestions what I can do? What can I tell the administrators? Could I use LookOut to just fetch the mail and get it into the Bat somehow? Is there something like an Exchange proxy client that would translate my POP3 requests to Exchange protocol? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?
Hi, Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Tell them to change the settings on the firewall to accept only known connections... like your LAN, unless they want external users from accessing the mail. POP3 is an uncommon point of entry for hackers, they normally try SSH, Telnet, FTP, RAS, VPN, etc. You may also maybe suggest moving POP3 to another port to fool most attempts. Thank you, these were also my suggestions. I also suggested changing the welcome banner (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q303513). Now they are telling me 'how do you know the Bat is safe?' And 'Outlook comes from a big and respected company, the Bat might come from some small bunch of hackers.' I'm really miffed (to put it lightly). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 2?
Hi, Paul Cartwright wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Do I need to restart TB for it to work ? is there a special place in the reply for that line ? You need to change the account wide quoting style under Account Properties/Templates/Reply. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion
Hi, Paddy L wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have a HTML Table of addresses for which I want to insert the recipient's name as well as address in The Bat! and other mail apps. Using: a href=mailto:Paddy L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paddy L/A inserts: Paddy L [EMAIL PROTECTED] in recipient field of Opera 6.04, Mozilla 1.0, and Foxmail 4.0 e-mail, but in TB!, only Paddy when Opera is set to use TB!. If I use just a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! inserts the address as it should. Try replacing spaces with %20 within the link, also use gt; and lt; for the 'angled' brackets: a href=mailto:Paddy%20L%20lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;;Paddy L/A This might still not work, I don't know if this is within the standard at all. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: two question about replying
Hi, Peter Palmreuther wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : There's no problem with the period as _additional_ space keeper. Actually, in olden times there used to be a problem (not with the Bat but rather Internet-wide) with a period at the very beginning of a line. To some dumb mail servers this meant end of message. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 . Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: two question about replying
Hi, Peter Palmreuther wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Must have been very old times :-) Even RFC-821, and of course it's 'going to be replacement' RFC-2821, state a SMTP has to prepend a period if a line starts with one a SMTP? you probably meant MUA. when sending out the message and has to strip the dot if it receives a line starting with one (Section 4.5.2) :-) And RFC-821 is from August 1982 :-) Ok, I'm not on the net for that long. :) But broken MUAs (or other applications talking directly to port 25 of a MTA) might have confused MTA when they did not 'escape' the period. Enough acronyms and wallowing in memories. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Eudora import
Hi, Peter Fjelsten wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Then they should remove the importer. They cannot call it an importer if it doesn't work. You know what I mean? I'm with Marck, Eudora is the culprit not the Bat! The only reasonable thing 'they' could do is add a notice saying that some proprietary formatting might be lost during import. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Weird extension
Hi, Jason wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : whenever I receives e-mail from Eudora users with attachments along I've problem to open it, coz the extension is kinda weird to me for instance data.zip; x-mac-type=4A504547; x-mac-creator=4A565752 this is really annoying, coz I gonna search for the proper application to execute the file rather than it open by itself anyone can enlighten me with this??? MacOS files need no extensions (XLS, DOC. etc.), yet they may come with an additional part that isn't of use on other systems. So you may receive two attachments for every file the sender originally attached. If I'm not mistaken MacOS mailers should be capable to 'flatten' such files so that only one attachment shows. As to the missing extension - see further down below. Also read: http://www.ufaq.org/navcom/multilinks.html is this BAT's security against the virus??? No. are there any solution to solve it once and for all??? Ask your correspondents to add a creator specific extension to their files before they send them to you (even though the extension aren't needed in a MacOS environment), e.g. they should add .doc to MS Word files. If possible they should also check if they can set their mail programs to omit the resource fork (that's the part you don't need). HTH. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: looking for a good IMAP solution
Hi, cedric wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : So the questions are: does anybody know of a add-on for TB which would make it handle all IMAP features? I don't know any add-ons other than virus scanners. Does anybody know if Ritlabs is planning to make it use all IMAP features in further releases? A major IMAP revamp has been promised. This promise is yet to be fulfilled. In last resort, is there another mail client I could try? Although it hurts to have to point you away from the Bat, have you looked at Mulberry (http://www.cyrusoft.com/index.html)? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Won't Send under Windows XP
Hi, Leviathan wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Can anybody point me in a positive direction? Perhaps the Bat! can't resolve the mail server's address? Did you try pointing it to 127.0.0.1 for your local Remailer? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Won't Send under Windows XP
Hi, Leviathan wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Getting even weirder. I have a secondary account set up on my The Bat! client. I _can_ send from that. The SMTP settings under the Transport property are identical. Now, where are we? What does the Bat's log tell you? Did you perhaps accidentally activate SMTP authentication? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: ms exchange server + thebat
Hi, smexport wrote in msgid:4A5DCF05395CD611A527E222F14A2B9540@DOLLAR : Can anybody help me with the configuring the bat under MS Exchange server There's nothing special to be done on the client's side. Yet, Exchange must be offering POP3 (alternatively IMAP4) and SMTP access. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Won't Send under Windows XP
Hi, Jonathan Andrew Sheen wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : No, I checked for that. The accounts settings are identical to those of the account that works. Well, if that's really the case I'm at my wits' end. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: ms exchange server + theba t
Hi, smexport wrote in msgid:4A5DCF05395CD611A527E222F14A2B9541@DOLLAR : I can't find in outlook 97 where the parameters under MS Exchange Server where this parameters can be found and used in the bat You'll find the necessary settings in the Bat! under Account/Properties/Transport. You need to know the following - the Internet name of your mail server - your user ID - your passwords I'm not sure where you might find the proper values in Outlook, probably somewhere under Tools/Accounts/Properties. Sorry if I can't help you any further. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB phones home, sends spam?
Hi, Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : The undisclosed.recipients usually indicates a the message came from a list of BCC's. This is still indicative of spammer behavior however! I know... that is just a common one... others include house.owners... company.executives... loan.guides... things like that. Not really. undisclosed.recipients is inserted by some mail servers when the To header had been left empty. Yes, this is possible. When talking directly to a mail server (aka MTA, mail transport agent) a sending server or application (aka MUA, mail user agent) submits a message's recipients separately from what we normal users see in the To or CC headers. This is part of what is commonly referred to as a message envelope. This is used for example when somebody sends a message to somebody via the BCC header. So if now the receiving server relays the message it puts in a To line (if there wasn't one before) with undisclosed.recipients. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
