Re: Simple Filter

2006-06-18 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Munango-Keewati wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm trying to get a filter to match the header string
 X-Spam-Level: **--with notible lack of success.  Can anyone tell me
 what I have to do to get this to work?

Header match ^X-Spam-Level:\s\*\*

should do it.

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Re: Simple Filter

2006-06-18 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Peter Palmreuther wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 9:36:37 PM Alexander [ASK] wrote:

 I'm trying to get a filter to match the header string
 X-Spam-Level: **--with notible lack of success.  Can anyone tell me
 what I have to do to get this to work?

ASK The best is to first add the header field you want to check to TBs
ASK configuration.

ASK Go to Options / Preferences / Messages / Message Headers.

ASK Click on Add and type the information for the header field (uncheck
ASK all three checkboxes).

 This step is not necessary for:

I believe it's necessary, else X-Spam-Level will not show up in the
drop-down list of available header fields to match.

ASK If you've done that, the filter condition should be:

ASKheader field X-Spam-Level starts with **

 I'd make this match and ^\*\*\s*$, unless the OP wants to filter all
 mail that contains *at least* two asterixes in X-Spam-Level:.

SpamAssasin indicates the spam level with the number of asterisks, so
'at least two' makes sense.

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Re: Tiny blank spam messages...

2006-06-18 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Philip Storry wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Over the last week, I've been getting LOTS of messages that are, for
   want of a better word, empty.

I get them too.  They seem to be just emtpy smtp envelopes.  They only
have the Return-Path and Received headers added by servers.

   I wanted to try and set up a rule for catching them and deleting
   them, but that's not worked either.

   Does anyone have any ideas? Has anyone else solved this problem?

I think this will work, but I haven't tested it yet:

header match ^(From|Sender|Reply-To):\s

That should match only mail without at least one of the originator
headers required in all e-mail, so it shouldn't kill match any legit
e-mail.

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Re: tiny blank spam messages... [correction]

2006-06-18 Thread Michael L. Cusac
I wrote:

 Philip Storry wrote:

   Over the last week, I've been getting LOTS of messages that are, for
   want of a better word, empty.

 I get them too.  They seem to be just emtpy smtp envelopes.  They only
 have the Return-Path and Received headers added by servers.

   I wanted to try and set up a rule for catching them and deleting
   them, but that's not worked either.

   Does anyone have any ideas? Has anyone else solved this problem?

 I think this will work, but I haven't tested it yet:

 header match ^(From|Sender|Reply-To):\s

 That should match only mail without at least one of the originator
 headers required in all e-mail, so it shouldn't kill match any legit
 e-mail.

Egad!  Sorry, I put that exactly backwards.  That expression will match
all legitimate mails, but not the empty ones.  Please use does not
match instead of match to get rid of the empty spam.

Sorry also to break threading -- I am on a different machine now, so I
don't have the original messages with the References headers.  (I
noticed my mistake while looking at the web archives.)

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folded headers and filters

2006-06-14 Thread Michael L. Cusac
RFC 2822 (sec. 2.2.3) says, Each header field should be treated in
its unfolded form for further syntactic and semantic evaluation.  But
TB! does not seem to do that;  AFAICT, when TB! tries to match a header
field using a regular expression, it uses the still-folded field, full
of newlines.  Can anyone confirm this (or, of course, correct me if I'm
wrong)?

This question came up when I was building a filter to color replies
to my own messages, using the References header.  I only wanted to
color them if one of my MIDs is last in the References field.  I
expected this to work:

Header field References match remarqs\.net$

But it gave false positives if my MID appeared anywhere in a folded
References header field, apparently because the $ matched newlines in
the middle of the field.  Making sure those newlines aren't matched
fixes the filter:

Header field References match (?-m)remarqs\.net$

(This is a simplified test case -- I know I need to look at
In-Reply-To headers as well.  Luckily, that's simpler.  :)
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Re: quoting only selected text

2004-09-11 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Chris wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Mic Cullen @ 2004-Sep-9 10:10:36 PM
 quoting only selected text mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I've got ALT-R setup to reply quoting only selected text in the
 normal window, but what about if the message is open from the
 mail-ticker? (Yes, I hunted through the 'Edit Shortcut keys', but
 couldn't find the relevant setup.)

 I tired changing the shortcut key in Edit Shortcut keys. There
 shortcut was noted as changed in that dialog, however, it did not work
 and the specials menu still listed F4.

One of TB!'s main selling points for me was the ability to (re)bind keys
for all actions, and I'm not too happy with the way the 'quote
selected text' options have been bolted on.  I can live with just
using f4 to reply, but the inability to bind a key to 'reply all
quoting selected text' is likely to send me looking for another client
rather than moving to version 3.  I'm trying v3 at work (where I need
MS Exchange :-/ support), and it seems that as with 2.12 the only way
to do it is with mouse-clicking.

Sorry for whining a bit.  I try not to do it very much here, but the
reply options IMO are core functionality for an e-mail client, and I
really wish they were better implemented in TB!

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Re: quoting only selected text

2004-09-07 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Mica Mijatovic wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In newer versions of TB!, is it possible to 'reply all' while quoting
 only selected text?

 Right click on the preview pane: Message  Reply to All quoting selected
 text. (In v2.12)

Thanks for the reply.  Is is possible to bind that action to a key?

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quoting only selected text

2004-09-06 Thread Michael L. Cusac
I'm using an old version of TB!, and the thing that most irritates me
about it is its clumsy handling of selected text for quoting when
replying.  I see there was a thread about this here a month or so
ago, but I can't find definitive answers there.

In newer versions of TB!, is it possible to 'reply all' while quoting
only selected text?   Better yet, is it possible to configure the
standard reply and forward keys so that if nothing is highlighted, the
entire message is quoted, but if anything is highlighted, only that
part is quoted? Or is there a macro for grabbing only selected text
rather than all of it?

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Re: No more colons

2004-09-03 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Jonathan Andrew Sheen wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Angle brackets. These are the arrow ones: {}

I always thought these {} were called curly brackets. Well... :-)

 When I went to school, they were braces.

The Jargon File has this to say about their names:

 Common: less/great­er than; bra/ket; l/r angle;
   l/r angle bracket; l/r broket. Rare: from/{into, towards}; read
   from/write to; suck/blow; comes-from/gozinta; in/out; crunch/zap (all
   from UNIX); tic/tac; [angle/right angle].

 { }   Common: o/c brace; l/r brace; l/r squiggly; l/r squiggly
   bracket/brace; l/r curly bracket/brace; opening/closing
   brace. Rare: brace/unbrace; curly/un­curly; leftit/rytit;
   l/r squirrelly; [embrace/bracelet]. A balanced pair of these
   may be called curlies.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/A/ASCII.html

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Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-05 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Richard Wakeford wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 All TB! users presumably subscribe to this list at least

That's an interesting presumption.  I'd think most of them don't.  Do
we know how many TB! users there are and how many list
subscribers?

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Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
MAU wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like this one
 can be viewed as threads, why quote then?

Well, for example, I can't tell quite what you just fully agreed with.
I purge my TBUDL folder when I leave it, and the antecedent of your
post is gone; the threaded view makes no difference.  I'm sure I did
read the antecedent -- probably it was posted only yesterday, my time.
But since then I have read a several hundred threads in groups and
lists, and my wetware is not up to recalling each read post in each
thread.

 If the height of the pane is full with quoted text (i.e. I have to
 scroll down to find the first line of the response) I usually just
 skip that message.

Me too.  Snipping everything unnecessary to provide context is good,
and IMO encouraging that is the only good way to deal with the
problem.

 That is even worse when the quoted text is preceded with several
 lines telling me what time it was in several parts of the world,
 repeating the Subject, etc. :)

I agree.  Two lines for the attribution seems a good rule-of-thumb to
me, but opinions vary.   I don't put in Hello MAU greetings in order
to keep it short, but I don't mind them either.  I think they help
foster the friendly atmosphere here.

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Re: Top-Posting and message list

2004-06-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Peter Meyns wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 13:03:14 -0400GMT, you [ETM] wrote:

E I think he is after suppressing quoted text in posts
E received.

Yeah, I was.  The question was out of curiosity more than any need.

 The problem is some people's overquoting. While quoting the complete
 thread may be of use in the usenet, so a new reader doesn't have to
 download all previous posts,

Full quoting will get you flamed and/or killfiled pretty quickly in
most newsgroups I read.  I'm thankful for the boilerplate mod notes
about it in TBDUL.

 it is nonsense in mailing lists, where every member downloads all
 messages anyway, single or digest mode. So I think it's logical that
 news readers can suppress quotes, but mail clients don't.

I only use the feature when I venture into groups where snipping is
not encouraged.  In top-posting groups, tapping the key to hide quoted
text lets me quickly see if there is indeed any more new content,
without scrolling down.  Without quote suppression, reading Microsoft
groups would be far more frustrating than it already is.

 Well, I use The Bat! as a news reader with the help of MyGate, so I
 might be interested in this feature too. But then, The Bat! is an
 email client, and an excellent one at that, so let's not demand too
 much... ;o)

I want it all!  ;)

I actually use a news client for all mailing lists except this one,
gating through Hamster.  I keep meaning to try a 2.x TB! to see if
it'll handle threading well enough for me to switch to it for lists.
(Mainly, I don't like seeing a thread split into parts just because I
have already deleted the OP.)

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Re: Tag line manager?

2004-06-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Marc Lewis wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'd like to find an auxillary program to pipe a selectable tagline
 into the message...  Anyone know of one?

KookieJar is my choice for managing multiple sigs and taglines.  You
can have it use taglines randomly selected from the tagline file, or
you can select the tagline manually.  It's free, open source.

http://www.tranglos.com/free/kookiejar_main.html

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hide/skip quoted text (was: Top-Posting and message list)

2004-06-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Allen wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 6/2/2004, 4:36 PM: Arthur said in Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! 
 Help File)

AT This would be a great feature.  Mutt (from my unix days) used to have
AT this feature and it was very handy to just hit a button and hide all
AT the quoted text immediately and just read the text added.

If you miss it, Mutt can now be used on Windows systems.
http://www.geocities.com/win32mutt/cygwin.html

 I  am  -all-  for  this! Could be a -very- handy feature. Many newsreaders
 (which  often  double  as  mail  clients)  support such a feature; a quick
 keyboard  shortcut  will  toggle the quotes full/suppressed -- I'd love to
 see  such a feature in TB!. Another approach (xnews uses such an approach)
 is  to  have a command that will skip over quotes -- though that's notably
 less  intuitive  than  the  former  method  when dealing with interspersed
 replies.

Just to be clear to those not using Xnews, the skip key will
automagically scroll down past a block of quoted text each time you
tap it.  It leaves the last line of the quote in the view pane,
for a bit of context.

In case this stuff ever makes it to a wish list, there's a third
option, which IIRC Gravity has.  It's possible to hide most quoted
text but leave a couple of lines from each quoted block visible;
often this is enough to remind the reader of context.

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Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
MAU wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I purge my TBUDL folder when I leave it, and the antecedent of your
 post is gone;

 Then mid: links are of no use to you, correct? :)

Sometimes they are useful to me, if I've gone a while without catching
up and purging.  But for the most part, they don't help me within the
list.

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Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Wayne King wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll down
 past the quoted text to read the response. One especially annoying
 example was a message in this list that I just read. I had to scroll
 down below quoted text only to find a thank you for your help. I
 think something like this should always be top quoted.

Top-posting something like that would annoy me just as much, as I
would scroll down /expecting/ there to be more new content.  Snipping
is the only solution to this sort of problem, whether top- or
bottom-posting is used.

Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text?  I don't see it, but I'm
bad at finding features I'm not already using, and I'm also using an
old version of TB!  Togglable quote suppression is a common feature of
news clients, but I don't think it's so common in e-mail ones.

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Re: ?subject= and spaces in it

2004-05-29 Thread Michael L. Cusac
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
mid:!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACABgA/C/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 80% of users who use The Bat even don't know what is RFC or who webmaster
 is.
 But they communicaty and they are happy.

They don't need to read the RFCs, since they are using software which
was written by people who did.  This is the point of having standards
specified in RFCs.

=/ There are very few stupid RFCs... the rest are written
=/ for people to
=/ communicate with... if they didn't exist, people wouldn't be able to
=/ communicate on the internet.
 

 No. It will not brake any URL. Because The Bat doesn't make HTML pages.
 It only read info from them. And if The Bat can read not only correct but
 broken info it is only plus for it.

If changed in the way you suggest, TB! would react incorrectly to
some correctly formed URIs.  Unencoded whitespaces are delimiters,
and you would like TB! to ignore them.  Intentional introduction of
such a bug seems unwise to me, but you've been pointed to how to find
a hack to break the way TB! handles URIs, so everyone should be happy
now, no?

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Re: signature delimiter

2004-05-26 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Marck D Pearlstone wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 It's a recognised convention that has migrated from usenet to email
 and is used by (est.) 90% of mail client software. It isn't in an
 RFC as such (at least, a 20 minute Google didn't reveal it)

The RFC writers are reluctant to say what should or shouldn't be in
bodies of messages, as that kind of thing opens cans of worms.

The dashdashspace delimiter is mentioned in the RFC for format=flowed,
but only to point out that it's common practice and to say how f=f
should handle it when it appears.

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Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Friday 16 January 2004 05:39 pm, Munango-Keewati wrote:

   It took me a long while to find the email headers for example
  - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client???

 Where? I haven't been able to find anything equivalent to real header
 information.

For Outlook 97, 98, or 2000, see 
http://www.haltabuse.org/help/headers/microsoft.shtml#outlook97.  I imagine 
getting them in more recent versions is the same as 2000, but I'm not sure.

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Re:

2003-10-20 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Maurice Snellen wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 My ISP's mailserver strips any and all characters from e-mail that
 have the 8th bit set. Thus, in order to receive messages properly, I
 need to have mail sent to me in either Quoted-Printable of Base64
 encoding.

 I've complained about it, but they insist that the RFC's don't require
 mailservers to support 8-bit content and will not change it. And as
 they are an otherwise excellent ISP, I have no intention of changing
 ISP's because of this issue.

AFAIK, they are right about the RFCs, but I am amazed that they stand
on that technicality on this issue.  I'd think they would support
8-bit because their customers require it (and because the RFCs permit
it).  Does most mail with such characters stripped look ok, so that
most customers don't mind?

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Re:

2003-10-20 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Michael L. Cusac wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

giant mess snipped

Sorry, sorry.  I was playing with charsets and had stuff in my outbox
I needed to delete.  I unparked in order to delete and it flew away to TUBDL, I
think.  Again, sorry.  If I play around like that again, I will
disconnect from the 'net and delete the To headers first.

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Re: MenuNavigator Button

2003-10-10 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Steve  Mary King wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hey, that's handy!  More software should have that feature.

Oh, yes, it is /very/ handy.  TB!'s menu item locations are mostly
counterintuitive to me, so I used it all the time.  I only have my
keybindings memorized for a few oft-repeated tasks, so now I spend too
much time hunting through the pull-downs.  Thanks to all who replied;
I guess I will install a 1.6x beta, since I am not willing to try 2.x
just yet.

Btw, thanks to all who have replied to recent questions of mine.  I
didn't want to clutter the list with 'thank-yous', but I really do
appreciate how helpful you all are.

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MenuNavigator Button

2003-10-08 Thread Michael L. Cusac
In Options|Preferences|General, I have checked 'Display MenuNavigator
Button on the Caption Bar' yet I do not see the MenuNavigator Button.
Once upon a time, it was visible, but I accidentally got rid of it.
Where is it hiding?  Maybe I have hidden the entire Caption Bar, since
I am not sure what the Caption Bar is or where it is supposed to
appear.

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Re: Message Sending Limit

2003-10-07 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Leif Gregory wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This isn't a limit imposed by TB, but by your provider. Many providers
 limit the number of messages you can send in a period of time to
 thwart spammers.

 If you need to get around this, take a look at Mercury (mail server,
 free).

I assume the workaround is to have Mercury connect directly with the
recipients' SMTP servers. Since many spammers also use this technique,
such mail may get caught in recipients' spam filters. (It would get
caught in mine unless Mercury is configured to add its own Received
header before sending to my MSP's server.)

I'm just posting this as an FYI, not disagreeing that Mercury may
provide a good alternative - I'm not actually familiar with Mercury's
capabilities.)

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Re: Message Sending Limit

2003-10-07 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Leif Gregory wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MLC I'm just posting this as an FYI, not disagreeing that Mercury may
MLC provide a good alternative - I'm not actually familiar with
MLC Mercury's capabilities.)

 I've been using Mercury for quite a while. The only time I had a
 problem was with Earthlink when sending e-mail to my girlfriend.

 Other than that, it's worked well.

Earthlink is now very spam-sensitive, overly so IMO. Sending through
my ISP or through myrealbox.com, I still get those automated replies
and have to go fill out the web form requesting the recipient to
whitelist me.

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Re: How to filter Worm (the Microsoft one)

2003-10-05 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Scott Frederick wrote to TBUDL:

 Could you paste these filters, or instructions on how to set them up in
 the body of a message?

 This is starting to be a problem for me too. Thanks.

I filter them in a different app than TB!, but here is what works well
for me.

Delete message from server if these four conditions are met:
my address not in To header
my address not in Cc header
size is  14 bytes
size is  18 bytes

I log my kills, and this filter has killed all Swens, with no false
positives that I have seen.  The logs are big, so there may be a false
positive in there somewhere, but I don't want to be BCCed huge files
anyway.

Some Swen worm mail that is misformed or has been stripped of its
payload by a server running and AV scanner will get through, but those
are only relatively small, 10-15 KB each.

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can TB! generate MIDs?

2003-10-04 Thread Michael L. Cusac
I'd like to have TB! generate MIDs using my own FQDN rather than
letting the remote server assign the MID. Is there setting for this
that I am overlooking?

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thread view question

2003-10-03 Thread Michael L. Cusac
When two branches of a thread have no common ancestor which is still
in my view, the branches are separated.  (Sorting by subject would
bring them together, but I prefer to sort by date.)  Is there any way
to fix this, so that theads stay togther?

I am looking for something like this:

http://www.cotse.net/users/putty/images/XnThreading.png

as opposed to this:

http://www.cotse.net/users/putty/images/TBThreading.png

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TBFAQ javascript errors with Firebird browser

2003-10-03 Thread Michael L. Cusac
I was accessing TBFAQ fine yesterday, but today I see nothing when I
try to browse it with Mozilla Firebird 0.6.1.  I haven't changed any
settings, but of course that does not mean the problem is not on my
end.  Here's what the JavaScript console has to say about it:

Error: missing ; before statement
Source File: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html
Line: 3, Column: 64
Source Code:
#FF,#FF,#FF;z4=ns.split(,);ns=centerimg src=tb!icon.jpg  alt='The 
Bat!'font size='6' face='arial'b The Bat FAQ /b/fontimg src=tb!icon.jpg  
alt='The Bat!'/center|h3 align='center'a href='rogues.html'The TBUDL/TBBETA 

Error: missing ; before statement
Source File: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html
Line: 4, Column: 85
Source Code:
' style='display:none'(0) /DIVBIGFONT COLOR=#00 ID='ft0'centerimg 
src=tb!icon.jpg  alt='The Bat!'font size='6' face='arial'b The Bat FAQ 
/b/fontimg src=tb!icon.jpg  alt='The Bat!'/center/FONT/BIG/TD/TRTR 
id='title12

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Re: TBFAQ javascript errors with Firebird browser

2003-10-03 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote to TBUDL:

 It is either at your end or due to an interrupt during page
 download. I'm a Firebird 0.6.1 user myself and, as the publisher of
 the FAQ too, I can confirm that it works fine here.

Sorry, I posted too quickly. It looks like the problem is with a proxy
I was surfing through, since bypassing the proxy I see the page fine
in Firebird.

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views and automatic mail fetching

2003-10-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
When I look at some folders, I want the view to be 'all messages',
while I want other folders to be 'only unread messages'. Is there a
way to set the default view on a per-folder basis?

Also, when viewing 'only unread messages', if TB! checks the server
and gets new messages, the view is refreshed and messages I've just
read disappear.  I want TB! to auto-check for new messages, but I do
not want the view to be refreshed in that case.  Is there either a way
to stop TB! from refreshing the view automatically or to have it
suspend auto-fetching while I'm reading mail?

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subpattern returned by %REGEXPTEXT

2003-10-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
I am new to trying to capture subpatterns using regex. I am using TB!
to create logs of e-mails Hamster has killed for me. Hamster does not
create logs, but rather creates individual e-mails for each killed
message. I am using TB! to extract info from the Hamster-generated
mails; each Hamster-generated mail contains the killed mail's headers
in its text body.

Here's an example regex:

^subject:\s(\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$
111   222

I want to capture subpattern 2, which is the original subject;  I do
not want to capture the string *** GMX Spamverdacht *** which GMX
may or may not have prepended to the original subject.

I thought that %REGEXPTEXT captured the highest numbered subpattern,
in this case 2, but it seems to be capturing subpattern 1.

I have read the help, and looked through Gerd Ewald's regex tutorial
again, but I'm afraid my head is spinning a bit. From playing with
things, ISTM that %REGEXPTEXT will return subpattern 0 if that is the
only one matched, and will return subpattern 1 if more than one
subpattern is matched. Do I have this right now? And if I want to
capture a subpattern other than 0 or 1 I will have to use
%SETPATTREGEXP, %REGEXPBLINDMATCH, and %SUBPATT ?

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Re: subpattern returned by %REGEXPTEXT

2003-10-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Gerd Ewald wrote to TBUDL:

 I thought that %REGEXPTEXT captured the highest numbered subpattern,
 in this case 2, but it seems to be capturing subpattern 1.

 I'm quite sure it does.

 Try this: ^subject:\s(?:\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$

 This escapes the first parentheses and it does not count as a
 subpattern

Ah.  Thanks.  Looks like I should reread your tutorial in its
entirety.

And if I want to
 capture a subpattern other than 0 or 1 I will have to use
 %SETPATTREGEXP, %REGEXPBLINDMATCH, and %SUBPATT ?

 Try
 %SETPATTREGEXP=^subject:\s(\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$%-
 %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADER%-
 %SUBPATT=2

I'm happy to see that what I put in after I sent my OP was what you
recommend here.  :)

%SETPATTREGEXP=^subject:\s(\*\*\*\sGMX\sSpamverdacht\s\*\*\*\s)?(.*?)$%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%TEXT%-
%SUBPATT=2

 I hope the macro is %HEADER??

It's %TEXT.  Hamster has already extracted the original headers, and
they appear in the text body of the message that TB! has available to
examine.

 HTH

It certainly did.  Thank you!

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help

2002-06-27 Thread Michael L. Cusac


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keyboard shortcuts (was: Column Headings - Managing for All Folders)

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Chris Montgomery wrote to TBUDL:

 Someone here was kind enough to give me this link last week.

 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

 Great, thanks! The below URL was off a bit, but poking around I
 found this worked:
 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt. The list is for
 an older version, but at least it's a good start.

I changed 'below URL' to 'above URL'  ;)

The first URL works for me, and has shortcuts for v1.60.  Clicking it
in TB!'s viewer opens my browser and takes me strait there.  If you're
using cut-and-paste, take off the angled brackets, and if you're
typing it out, make sure there's an underscore between shortcut and
eng.html.  If that doesn't work, I'm stumped.

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1.60m install

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Cusac

To install 1.60m, should I just install over what I've already got? Is
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Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Tue, 21 May 2002, Nick Andriash wrote to TBUDL:

 Hamster is an abomination and belongs with News Clients that are incapable
 of connecting to more than one Server...

Hamster can connect to as many mail and news servers as you like, all
at the same time, and it's not fairly characterized as a 'News Client'.

 it's way past it's time.

Hamster is up-to-date, is remarkably versatile, and its development
continues apace.

(That said, I couldn't care less whether or not TBUDL moves to
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Re: Time for a TB! newsgroup?

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Wed, 22 May 2002, Nick Andriash wrote to TBUDL:

 You've misread my statement... I never said Hamster couldn't connect with
 multiple News Servers. I said it belongs 'with' News Clients that cannot
 connect to multiple News Servers, or in other words used with Clients such
 as Agent.

I did misread you, and I apologize.

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Re: filtering on multiple headers

2002-05-20 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Monday, May 20, 2002, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote to TBUDL:

 This  is  testing  my  knowledge of Regex to the limits, but I think
 that  Regex works on a line by line basis. Your filter will look for
 the phrase 'Received:' in one line (a line being a string terminated
 by a line break), which won't match as you want it to.

In general, one RegEx can capture more than one line at a time, but
after having tried several ideas I believe you're right that TB!'s
RegEx  will only look at one line at a time.  It would be nice
to be able to toggle it to handle multiple lines, but for all I know
that would create some kind of programming nightmare for the
developers, so I can't really complain.

 I am not sure what the solution is. If the mail is being sent direct
 to GMX, then you could try to search for messages that have a
 received line which does not include GMX.

This approach should work out.  GMX actually adds two Received
headers, and 'GMX' is in only one of them, but I think I can find
something that will distinguish other Received headers from them.

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Re[3]: Column Headings - Managing for All Folders

2002-05-20 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, Chris Montgomery wrote to TBUDL:

 Has anyone ever come up with a master list if
 keyboard shortcuts? I think that would be pretty helpful.

Someone here was kind enough to give me this link last week.

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

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Re[2]: How to change icons? Steps?

2002-05-19 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Sunday, May 19, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote to TBUDL:

 Well, the flying Bat has an option in the main preferences settings -
 you can turn off animation.

Turning off the flying bat is all I've done so far, but I'd like to be
able to replace it with some non-animated icon that would let me know
there's new mail.  Is this possible?

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headers used in filtering

2002-05-19 Thread Michael L. Cusac

I'd like to know which headers are used when TB!'s sorting office is
looking for things in the 'sender' or 'recipient' kludges.  (I know
now that Return-Path is used when it's looking for recipients, but I'd
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filtering on multiple headers

2002-05-19 Thread Michael L. Cusac

I'd like to be able to filter messages which have less than three
Received headers because that criterion fits most of the spam I get
these days.  This spam has been delivered directly to the gmx.net
server and does have my addy in the To field, which defeats my old
filters.

I thought I could do something like specify mail which does not
match (Received:\s.*?){3} in the kludges, but apparently TB! only
looks in the fields of the headers.  Useing 'all' instead of 'kludges'
doesn't seem to work either.  Is there any way to filter using the raw
text (source) of the mails, or better yet in the raw header portion?
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Re: headers used in filtering

2002-05-19 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Sunday, May 19, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote to TBUDL:

 Sender looks for From: and Sender: (maybe X-Sender too), more possible
 options aren't available

See below.

 Recipient ought to look for To: CC: (Maybe BCC: in outgoing mail)

 MLC (I know now that Return-Path is used when it's looking for
 MLC recipients,

 That would surprise me. The Return-Path contains no recipient-info
 whatsoever.

Sorry, I mistyped.  Return-Path is used when TB! is looking for
sender rather than recipient, which makes a lot more sense.  I know
this because the string 'mlcusac' in the Reply-To field of all the
TBUDL mails I get, which caused one of my filters to believe they were
all from me.  This was easy enough to fix once I realized what was
going on, but it illustrates why I'd like to know exactly what fields
TB! looks at.  I'll write to support about it.

 MLC but I'd like a complete list.)

 Yeah, wouldn't we all? ;-)

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Re: ticker info?

2002-05-17 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Friday, May 17, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote to TBUDL:

 On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:05:20 +0200, you wrote:

 1. There have to be unread messages shown in the MT (more than one).
 2. Double click on one of them; the MT virtual folder opens.

 When I do this, the mail opens, not a virtual folder.

 3. In the message tree you are *not* on the first message.

 No message tree, unless that is all the email is, and pressing the home will
 force it to revert back to the virtual folder.

When the mail opens, select View|Message List. Voila, message tree.
Having done this once, you shouldn't have to do it again.  Now it's on
to step 4:

 4. Press Home and you'll find yourself marking (and reading) the
 first message.

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Re: glyphs

2002-05-17 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Friday, May 17, 2002, Peter Meyns wrote to TBUDL:


 Or is there another way to get the default icons into my graphics program
 for editing?


Resource  Hacker,  maybe?  I don't use it, so I can't personally vouch
for it, but it has a good rep.

http://www.rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker/

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incoming mail while reading list

2002-05-17 Thread Michael L. Cusac

When I'm reading messages from a mailing list, I have the display set
to show unread only.  As I read the messages get marked read
automatically.  I may move on from a now-read message I'd like to
reply to, because I want to read the rest of the thread first.

A problem occurs when the connection center kicks in, DLing new
mail;  when it's done, the message view refreshes and all the read
mails disappear from view.  I can think of a few workarounds for this.

a) Flag messages I may want to reply to, so I can find them again.
   This option is very annoying.

b) Turn off the feature that automatically marks mails read as I go.
   Also annoying, since I like that feature a lot.

c) Manually set TB! not to connect to servers while I'm reading, then
   change the setting again when I'm done.  Super-annoying.

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Re[3]: ticker info?

2002-05-16 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Thursday, May 16, 2002, Shane R. Monroe wrote to TBUDL:

SRM 1) Allow the current configuration options to remain
SRM 2) Add option Clear notification upon Restore.
SRM- New mail comes in, icon changes to animated or 'different'
SRM- Bring program to front, icon reverts to its normal state
SRM 3) Add a right click 'dismiss notification' to the context menu of the
SRM systray icon.

I agree completely.

While we're on the subject of notification, is there a way to set the
icon in the systray to 'different' rather than animated? I want to see
notification in the tray, but I don't want animation.

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Re[2]: a sorting office problem

2002-05-16 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Thursday, May 16, 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote to TBUDL:

 Let's try a couple of things.

Problem solved while looking at headers, following your advice!  Thank
you!

As you may recall, I had an exclusion which prevented messages from me
being colored.

  MainSet: 01mlcusac

Well, TBUDL messages are delivered to me with the header

  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Once I saw that, it was pretty easy to fix the filter.

  MainSet: 01mlcusac@

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a sorting office problem

2002-05-15 Thread Michael L. Cusac

I've added a color group rule at the top of my list for incoming mail.
It  adds a message to a color group if the kludges contain my FQDN but
the sender is not me, so that I can easily spot replies to my messages
on  mailing  lists.  (I  only want it to do this for lists, but I will
fine-tune the rule after my current problem is solved.)

After  that  rule,  there  are  various  rules  to  sort messages into
folders.  The  problem  is that the color group rule is not working on
TBUDL  messages.  Replies to me that are sorted into my 'known' folder
get  colored,  but replies to me that are sorted into the TBUDL folder
are  not. I'll be glad to provide more details; right now I don't know
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Re[2]: Remail

2002-05-15 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote to TBUDL:

RO Or subscribe to a free e-mail provider, gmx.net comes to mind, they're
RO free, aren't they?

Yes,  they  are.  But  a  few  months ago they disabled the non-German
portions  of  their  website,  which  makes  setting  up  prefs  a bit
difficult  for  monoglots  like me.

myrealbox.com  offers  free  smtp  and pop3 accounts , to show off the
capabilities of Novell's e-mail solutions, and in the couple of months
I've been using it, it seems pretty reliable.

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Re[2]: a sorting office problem

2002-05-15 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote to TBUDL:

RO MLC After  that  rule,  there  are  various  rules  to  sort messages into
RO MLC folders.  The  problem  is that the color group rule is not working on
RO MLC TBUDL  messages.  Replies to me that are sorted into my 'known' folder

RO Could you post the filter here? (Select the filter, Press Ctrl-C (not
RO the copy button), go to the message, paste by pressing Ctrl-V)
RO It's the first filter, you said?

Yes, it's the first filter, and none of my other filters have anything
in them to set color groups (I've just double-checked this);  they only
sort the messages into folders.

I've   pasted   the  filter below.  I've only obscured one of the email
addresses I use, in the second 'MainSet' line.

BeginFilter
Name: Color Replies To ME
Active: 1
Source: \\Hamster\Inbox
Target: \\Hamster\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40QsFQDN.dyndns.org
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: 01mlcusac
Actions: faoContinueProcessing,faSetColor
AddGroups:
DelGroups:
ForwardTemplate:
ConfirmTemplate:
ReplyTemplate:
FwdAddr:
RedirectAddr:
NewAddr:
NewTemplate:
ExtCmd:
ExtFile:
ExtractDir:
ColourGroup: Replies To ME
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups:
NoAddrGroups:
KillFile:
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate:
SndFile:
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

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Re[2]: a sorting office problem

2002-05-15 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote to TBUDL:

 ... Replies to me that are sorted into my 'known' folder get
 colored, but replies to me that are sorted into the TBUDL folder are
 not.

MDP Check the TBUDL filter - does it re-impose the default colour?

It doesn't.  This is very confusing.

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setting messages display

2002-05-13 Thread Michael L. Cusac

I'd  like  to  be  able  to set the display (all messages, only unread
messages,  c.) on a per-folder basis, and have the settings stick for
each folder. Is this possible?

Almost  as  good  would  be  the  ability to use keyboard shortcuts to
change  views, but the only one that it seems possible to do this with
is 'all messages'. Somebody tell me I'm overlooking something, please?

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nonstandard headers

2002-05-10 Thread Michael L. Cusac

I've  been  a  demo  user for less than a day now, and so far I'm very
impressed  with  TB!  I've read (most of) the documentation online and
off; if I've missed something I should've seen, I apologize.

It  looks  like  the  only way to specify non-standard headers is on a
message-by-message  basis,  editing  by  hand.  If  this  was a design
decision  based on a philosophy of keeping headers to a minimum, I can
respect  that.  However,  I  do  need  the ability to use non-standard
headers. E.g., Yahoo Groups will not archive mails if 'Archive: no' or
'X-No-Archive:  yes' is set, one of the few Yahoo features I like. Any
chance  a  future  version of TB! will make adding headers easier? (If
this is a question better sent to RIT, just let me know.)

While  I'm  at  it,  is there a list of planned improvements available
somewhere?

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Re[3]: Connection Problems

2002-05-10 Thread Michael L. Cusac


On Thursday, May 09, 2002, Edward G. Hochstein wrote to TBUDL:

EGH Are you using a FW after uninstalling ZA?

Fwiw,  I'm using Kerio, formerly Tiny, and it doesn't cause any issues
with TB! (or any other apps) on my Win98 machine.

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Re[2]: nonstandard headers

2002-05-10 Thread Michael L. Cusac

On Friday, May 10, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote to TBUDL:

RO MLC It  looks  like  the  only way to specify non-standard headers is on a
RO MLC message-by-message  basis,  editing  by  hand.

RO You could try X-Ray. That's a freeware smtp-server you can install on
RO your own pc. From the info I gather that it's developed with TB in
RO mind. It has the possibility to insert headers and such.

RO More info: http://www.xrayapp.com

Thanks, and thanks to all who replied.

I use Hamster as a local mail and newsserver. If I add Korrnews to the
mix,  I'll  have  total  control over headers, and I guess that's what
I'll  do.  Or  I  may  continue  to use my newsreader for most mailing
lists, which is what I've done so far.

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