Re: Mod: Top posting
25 July 2013 - 06:32 Hello Marck, Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 2:33:00 PM, you wrote: MP Dear Jim, MP @24-Jul-2013, 08:19 -0500 (24-Jul 14:19 here) Jim Kyle [JK] in MP mid:1731489773.20130724081...@jimkyle.com said to Marck: Imagine reading a joke like that: MP ... snip JK I suggest that you add these few lines to the standard mod JK message about top posting, MP Done! ...and update the joke! -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.2.42 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account folder always starts expanded
06 September 2011 - 06:35 Hello Robin, Sunday, September 4, 2011, 11:54:32 AM, you wrote: RA For some reason the account folder structure of one of my accounts always RA opens in the account pane expanded. ...snip RA Alternatively, does anyone know what might be causing this behaviour? I've had this happen, seemingly randomly, over the years and never found a solution. It has always corrected itself, again for no apparent reason, a few weeks later. One of the joys of being a Batter! -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.2.42 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Near disaster averted with 5.0.8
15 April 2011 - 07:38 Hello Barry, Thursday, April 14, 2011, 11:30:28 AM, you wrote: snip... B Nonetheless all my messages in the Inbox were removed the first time I exited B V5.0.8, all 16,000 of them! You have 16,000 messages in your inbox? 16.000? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.2.42 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fookes' Mailbag Assistant and TB!
28 July 2008 - 07:22 Hello all, I've just installed Fookes' Mailbag Assistant (MA) and I've got a couple of basic questions already. I did use it years ago when I only had one TB! account but now I've got twenty. My TB! mail directory is X\DOCS\The Bat! to which I pointed MA during the initial set-up wizard. I chose to 'open all mailboxes' and included 'all subfolders', did not use any filters; in effect, I wanted to include the whole message base. MA told me that no messages were found! I then tried pointing to just one account (X\DOCS\The Bat!\Account1) . Same result. Which folder do I select to tell MA to include all messages (if possible) or one account's messages otherwise? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.0.7 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fookes' Mailbag Assistant and TB!
28 July 2008 - 13:13 Hello Geoff, Monday, July 28, 2008, 8:32:02 AM, you wrote: GL On 28 July 2008, 07:44, The Janitor wrote: Which folder do I select to tell MA to include all messages (if possible) or one account's messages otherwise? GL ~~~ GL I'm using a very old version of TB but the latest version of MBA and I GL have to navigate to and open the TBB file for each folder. The All GL Mailboxes option in the Open Mailbox dialog of MBA is just to let you GL choose which mailbox type (e.g. Outlook, TB, Mozilla) to open and for GL The Bat! each TBB or MSB file is a mailbox. Thanks for the prompt response, Geoff. It must be this hot weather but I'm bugg**ed if I (or MBA) can find a TBB or MSB file. Each account's folder has a series of folders named e.g. FBA0C14C.DBF which contain files called MESSAGES.EBB and .EBI. These are followed by files named ACCOUNT.something e.g. .EFB. All the accounts' folders contain something similar. This morning I also installed MBA in my office where I use Thunderbird and I had no problems at all! I made the same choices in the wizard (obviously the paths were different) so I'm mystified. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.0.7 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fookes' Mailbag Assistant and TB!
28 July 2008 - 13:53 Hello Roelof, Monday, July 28, 2008, 1:41:07 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo The, RO On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:30:28 +0100GMT (28-7-2008, 14:30 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: TJ It must be this hot weather but I'm bugg**ed if I (or MBA) can find a TJ TBB or MSB file. RO That's because you're using OTFE and the idea behind encryption is RO that the messages can't be read by other people and applications. I see your point, Roelof. Apologies for wasting people's time. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.0.7 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Fookes' Mailbag Assistant and TB!
28 July 2008 - 19:31 Hello Bob, Monday, July 28, 2008, 4:05:13 PM, you wrote: BR Let me promise you, William, this dialog was not a waste of time for me. Glad to hear it :-) BR ... And I don't use OTFE (whatever that is...), On The Fly Encryption. BR...(my wife monitors my software budget) My wife would love to know how she does it! ;-) -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.0.7 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD Antivirus Database 3119 (20080522) Identifying TheBat as a virus
22 May 2008 - 19:55 Hello Julian, Thursday, May 22, 2008, 11:22:03 AM, you wrote: JBL TheBat is being flagged by NOD as a virus when it accesses rundll32.exe as Probably a variant of JBL Unknown virus. 3123 is OK. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.0.7 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: NNTP newsreader
11 February 2008 - 21:27 Hello Miguel, Monday, February 11, 2008, 4:32:30 PM, you wrote: M You probably mean this thread: M http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg95242.html M The reply by Jos Klaassens includes a link to download MyGate That's the one and I'm now up and running :-) Many thanks. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.0.7 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
NNTP newsreader
11 February 2008 - 13:44 Hello Tbudl, Not long ago I seem to remember a posting (or a link) explaining how to receive newsgroup posts via TB! I'm unable to find it in the archives; can anyone point me in the right direction please? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 4.0.7 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! Version 3.99.3
17 September 2007 - 20:40 Hello Simon, Monday, September 17, 2007, 8:08:58 PM, you wrote: S Yup! Indeed, I 'mistakenly' did, to split an infinitive also. No, you didn't :-) -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIt Plugin missing
30 December 2006 - 17:29 Hello Gene, Friday, December 29, 2006, 5:26:42 PM, you wrote: MP http://www.antispamsniper.com/ G Thanks! It looks like it may be a keeper! Another fan here. It rarely makes a mistake and no apparent hit on performance. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.95.6 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Synchronization of The Bat!
30 December 2006 - 19:54 Hello rich, Saturday, December 30, 2006, 5:42:18 PM, you wrote: G Is it possible to sync two or more instances of The Bat!, if they G are not collocated? IOW, if both machines are set to automatically G check for mail and there is a passage of time in transit between G the two machines, can they really be accurately synchronized?? rg How about a networked mail folder and two BATs that both reference that rg same database? rg If one machine is a laptop you would need to start your VPN and map that rg drive letter before opening up TB! of course... G I'm seriously considering that option, but I'm having access problems G with the VPN rg VPNs can be very tricky... Have you tried http://www.hamachi.cc/ ? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.95.6 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?
11 September 2006 - 06:48 Hello Susanne, Sunday, September 10, 2006, 8:55:49 PM, you wrote: S I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble S getting it to scan TB email. Slightly OT but as soon as I opened your message NOD32 displayed its always-reassuring signature update dialogue. Maybe there's a message there for you ;-) S Do I have to go back to NAV? As someone else said here recently, Blasphemy! -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.80.06 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AntispamSniper in Commercial and FREE version
29 July 2006 - 19:26 Hello Mark, Friday, July 28, 2006, 8:52:56 PM, you wrote: MP May I ask you why (replace K9, I mean)? I find it more accurate and very easy to configure. The GUI is more attractive, too. It's hard to explain but it just feels 'tighter' somehow. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AntispamSniper in Commercial and FREE version
29 July 2006 - 21:49 Hello Alexander, Saturday, July 29, 2006, 8:37:04 PM, you wrote: ASK How long have you been using it now? 3/4 weeks. I previously used K9 for about a year - before that, Popfile for about two years. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AntispamSniper in Commercial and FREE version
28 July 2006 - 18:01 Hello Henk, Friday, July 28, 2006, you wrote: HMdB Marek Mikus wrote: ...developer of AntispamSniper released FREE version of its plugin HMdB I have installed this program/plugin 3 weeks ago and I must say that I HMdB am impressed the way it works/behaves. Me too. HMdB I will keep on using it. So will I (as a replacement for K9). -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Vote of Confidence
29 May 2006 - 19:23 Hello Tbudl, http://www.donationcoder.com/Reviews/Archive/EmailClient/index.html -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Junk mail to delete
20 April 2006 - 06:39 Hello Tim, Thursday, April 20, 2006, 2:57:30 AM, you wrote: TH Can't mention 3rd party names here Why not? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.65.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bayesian-filtering for spam on all accounts possible?
13 March 2006 - 06:43 Hello pr1, Sunday, March 12, 2006, 11:49:11 PM, you wrote: puo Is there such a product? TJ K9 - http://keir.net/k9.html - free, as in beer. puo How easy did you find it to set up? I'm using it with eleven accounts - a mixture of domain and web-based. It took about twenty minutes And I found the instructions straightforward. A couple of changes to each account's properties plus a new filterfor each. I append the word [Spam] to the end of the email's subject line and any with that tag end up in a single spam folder. You can use K9 for *all* your filtering (not just to identify ham/spam) but I prefer to use TB! for that. puo Once set up, does it check your various accounts separately one at a time or puo is there a way to have it interpose itself between the incoming mail and puo the mailboxes? It does the latter. Anything identified as spam doesn't get to the account; it's moved straight to the spam folder. puo But I could be off, the intricacies of the whole process do baffle me puo somewhat g There are further 'intricacies' (you have to 'train it' to recognise the less-obvious spam and there are occasional housekeeping functions but it does start to work efficiently 'out-of-box' and the 'extras' can wait. After a couple of months I'm getting 98.55% accuracy but this figure has reduced recently because of some innocuous-looking text spam. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.65.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesian-filtering for spam on all accounts possible?
11 March 2006 - 09:18 Hello pr1, Friday, March 10, 2006, 5:13:10 PM, you wrote: puo Is there such a product? K9 - http://keir.net/k9.html - free, as in beer. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.65.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Displaying HTML
14 February 2006 - 07:07 Hello Jeff, Monday, February 13, 2006, 11:22:27 PM, you wrote: JG Hello Group, JG On Monday, February 13, 2006, 10:20:33 PM, Dwight wrote: JG Any recommendations? Directory Opus - http://www.gpsoft.com.au/ - 85 $AUS or about £36. It's TB! of file managers and then some! -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.65.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?
09 February 2006 - 06:46 Hello MFPA, Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 8:51:27 PM, you wrote: The plug-in only complicates matters; something else to go wrong. M What extra functionality does the plug-in provide? Certainly nothing that I need but YMMV of course. This topic has been discussed before but as soon as NOD detects the virus, I delete it. Every time. I've used NOD for about five years, never been infected (I know I shouldn't say things like that), never had an FP. There's no need to quarantine - NOD will send samples to ESET automatically, if necessary. IMO, *no* email is so important that it can't be deleted as soon as NOD detects it, long before it gets anywhere near the MUA. Good as it is, TB! has always been flaky; its developers have enough to do without having to maintain yet more code. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.65.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?
08 February 2006 - 13:22 Hello Mark, Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 9:31:47 AM, you wrote: MP I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32. Ditto. Nothing to touch it. The plug-in only complicates matters; something else to go wrong. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.65.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I delete the messages on server which is downloaded
18 December 2005 - 09:05 Hello Ming, Sunday, December 18, 2005, 6:48:32 AM, you wrote: MC What can I do now? Popcorn will do this (http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32_freeware.html). -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: For the record
14 December 2005 - 21:58 Hello Marten, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 1:34:10 PM, you wrote: MG If anyone using TB with loads of accounts has any other suggestions I'd be MG willing at some point to give it a go. Try K9 (http://keir.net/k9.html). Works perfectly with 10 accounts (POP). -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Getting no help from support...
13 December 2005 - 07:35 Hello Robert, Monday, December 12, 2005, 11:57:33 PM, you wrote: RF Here we go again with having to explain computer engineer...Why do RF I even bother Next time, please don't. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with IMAP
10 November 2005 - 13:42 Hello Barry, Thursday, November 10, 2005, 9:52:47 AM, you wrote: B I particularly didn't like the fact that AVG couldn't scan any of my B incoming mail. Surely a failure of AVG not Tbird? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help with IMAP
10 November 2005 - 20:08 Hello Barry, Thursday, November 10, 2005, 2:53:34 PM, you wrote: B It seems that there are plenty of AV programs that will work easily with B POP email, but IMAP seems less well supported. NOD32, www.eset.com. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Set new keyboard shortcut for open/close thread
18 October 2005 - 16:09 Hello Fredrik, Tuesday, October 18, 2005, 12:16:37 PM, you wrote: FB I think that it works, and as I developer I know that this kind of FB dialogs is not easy to make, and making them understandable is FB even harder. I think it doesn't work; like Martin I find it an abomination. As an ex-developer, if it's not easy to make, try harder. If it's even harder to make the dialogue understandarble, try even harder! -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Thunderbird
30 September 2005 - 07:58 Hello Tom, Friday, September 30, 2005, 6:14:25 AM, you wrote: TP http://www.0spam.com What's in it for them? Or am I being cynical? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The best mail services provider for using with TB and online by webmail ?
10 September 2005 - 09:01 Hello WilWilWil, Friday, September 9, 2005, 11:46:17 PM, you wrote: W Free There's no such thing as a free lunch. Very reasonable (like Fastmail), perhaps, but not free. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PopFile - last account 'hangs'
07 September 2005 - 07:02 Hello Marten, Tuesday, September 6, 2005, 11:13:29 PM, you wrote: MG You could try this from Mica: Thank you, Marten, I'll give it a whirl. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PopFile - last account 'hangs'
07 September 2005 - 13:11 Hello Alexander, Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 11:40:19 AM, you wrote: ASK What happens when you download from one single account only? Works fine. ASK If you use PopFile for nothing else but spam filtering, I'd use K9 instead I'd almost come to the same conclusion. The registry tweak suggested didn't really appeal but I was willing to try it. I haven't done it yet so I'll look at K9 first. Thanks. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PopFile - last account 'hangs'
06 September 2005 - 21:43 Hello Tbudl, I've just installed/configured PopFile for ten accounts It's already beginning to do its job. However, intermittantly, TB! 'hangs' when trying to connect to the last account (in the tree list) for downloading new mail. I've changed the order in the tree list but it's always the last account that hangs The connection centre won't let me 'delete task' or 'abort all either. All the accounts are with the same web host (but on different domains and servers) so it's conceivable that there *is* a problem at that end but their status page shows that all is well. The only way I can shut down TB! is ctrl/alt/del. Has anyone seen this before? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Oops!! Power Failure
26 August 2005 - 06:48 Hello Spike, Thursday, August 25, 2005, 11:21:54 PM, you wrote: S One frequent need is to S refer back to software registration keys from years gone by. I know it's only one example of your need to keep a large db of messages but why not just keep a single text file of registration keys and add to it with each new product? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[8]: using The Bat on multiple computers
04 August 2005 - 07:47 Hello rich, Thursday, August 4, 2005, 6:57:10 AM, you wrote: rg ... you then are overwriting whichever file is rg older (or some other criteria) but then this is will overwrite emails rg in computer A's TBB file if computer B's TBB file is newer. Agreed. rg This method (if I understand) means you cannot use both computers at rg the same time, Isn't the requirement to use, for example, the office PC while in the office then go on the road with the laptop, access your mail, then return to the office? This means that rg it has to be one or the other then sync, then repeat. Yes. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: using The Bat on multiple computers
03 August 2005 - 21:05 Hello Rich, Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 7:10:09 PM, you wrote: rg These products somehow merge the TBB and TBI files from each mailbox rg on both PCs??? Here (on the desktop PC) I've got all TB! data in a folder in a different partition from the installed program - Options/Preferences/System/Mail Directory/mybatdata. If you had a similar set-up on a laptop you could use either machine to process your mail (including deleting it from the server) and then when you are back in the office you could synchronise both folders - http://www.centered.com/secondcopy/how.html Both support lan and removable drives. I can't see why this wouldn't work, there's nothing special about TB! folders and files, is there? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: using The Bat on multiple computers
03 August 2005 - 06:39 Hello Avi scc This won't work. A major reason for setting up TB on both the laptop as scc well as well as the PC is to allow us to use the laptop to check mail scc while in other parts of our house, without having to go to the basement scc (dungeon) office. You could use either machine and then synchronise the folders using something like Sync Back (http://allwaysync.com/?g=c), free, or Second Copy (http://www.centered.com/), not free. Second Copy is in my top three pieces of PC software I've ever used. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Inbox known - missing from random account
31 July 2005 - 14:58 Hello Tbudl, I stopped using TB! just over a year ago (I can't remember why) but a couple of days ago saw the error of my ways and bought and installed the latest version. It was like slipping into an old leather jacket; everything fitted perfectly! I bought Bloomba, then somebody else did; I persevered with Poco. What a waste of a year. Now, I've just gone through my ten accounts and activated the 'inbox - known' filter but on one of those accounts (the third to be stet up) it was missing. Not a great problem - I just created it, but does anyone know what might have happened to it? None of the accounts has any other filters in place. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB hanging while receiving messages from POP3 server
Jim If I could just kill it, the problem would not be so severe, but when I try to exit TB, I get a popup telling me tasks are still active, and do I want to exit when they finish. Whether I click YES, NO or ABORT, the popup goes away, and TB does not exit. I cannot start new processes, like the Task Manager. If task manager is already open, and I try to End Task on TB, the task manager hangs. If I try to LogOff or shut down Windows, I get the same popup as if I tried to exit TB. The only solution I have found is the reset button. I cannot afford to do that to my system 3-4 times per day. I'm getting exactly the same symptoms here. Or do I need to try again to find a replacement... As much as it hurts to say this, I'm doing just that. I've been using TB! for about four years and am getting disillusioned with the way development is going. I don't need the more esoteric features of TB! but I *do* need stability. There is always that nagging doubt about whether my message base will be there when 'switch on'. -- Best regards William Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
