Re: The Bat slowing down.
Hi, * K. Shantanu [EMAIL PROTECTED], Monday, October 3, 2005, 5:25:38 AM: Hi, I was an old user of The Bat!. I recommend it to my friends who use MS Windows. A friend of mine has windows XP, Mobile Pentium 4 , 2,2Ghz , 512MB RAM 40GB HDD has around 1.5 Gb of mails (approx. 50k messages) in around 4 accounts. But his The Bat! 2.00.6 si very slow to start and stop. He is getting tired with his delay and is planning to shift to another email client which can gracefully handle that load. Can we suggest a few tricks to make the bat! handle that load easily? Thanks in advance. Shantanu I have made the experience (with 2.12 and about half a million mails in one account, about 2GB together) that no single folder should contain more than +-3 mails. Any more than that, and TB slows down dramatically. Timo Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Heres another TB! Image
Hi Jurgen, * Jurgen Haug [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sunday, December 19, 2004, 9:19:37 PM: Sunday, December 19, 2004, 8:48:43 PM, you wrote: Found this on the web and just put the text on it. http://www.sidnak.net/auf/tbat_image.jpg how much's a license on THAT bat? O:-) A liter of fresh human blood per day? *scnr* Timo -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cannot restore Backup: 30000 Mails lost! HELP!
Hi, Having upgraded my Windows, I had to reinstall. Of course I backuped all my mails (33), most of them in just one account, but when I tried to reinstall and restore my backup, TB2.12 (and 3.0, too) told me that it couldn't read the backup file. The small accounts restored ok (if I just chose them), the big account fails after about 30 mails. Any idea how I can get my other mails back? Timo -- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB getting slow, taking lots of memory (with lots of emails in store)
Hi Marck, * Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED], Friday, September 17, 2004, 10:18:23 PM: Dear Jack, @17-Sep-2004, 12:45 -0700 (17-Sep 20:45 UK time) Jack [J] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: J I have about 25k emails in about 20 accounts. That's very little in the TB scheme of things. I have a main account with 170k mails and an archive with 270k mails. I have *folders* containing 25k mails. Did you try a folder with more than, say, 32k mails? Performance gets very poor for me then, independent of the machine I use (I have two very different machines, but both show the same symptoms starting and about 30k-35k mails). -- Timo This email has a cutmark that allows you to cut my email in half instead of cutting me in half. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Getting Mail out of TB (Was: Migrated to Outlook 2003)
Hi Morgan, * Morgan Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thursday, September 2, 2004, 9:28:42 PM: In all it took me 7 minutes to create all the folders and import the e-mail into Outlook Express and then Outlook 2003. As I said if you have a very complex folder setup it will take longer but it isn't an impossible task and it shouldn't take you more than an hour no matter how complex your setup is. Sorry, it may not be that easy for everybody else. I have about 35 Mails in about 100 Folders in about 10 accounts. I just did some testing: - I can export 1100 Mails per minute to .eml files on the same disc, with virus-scanner running. (This would take about 6 hours of babysitting TB to get my mails out.) - If I choose a unix mailbox, switch of virus-scanning (shouldn't do that, really), and choose a different disc than the one TB runs on, I can push this to 8000 mails per minute. (This would still take well over an hour of babysitting TB.) BTW, CPU-usage of TB seems to be the bottleneck here. So, thats for the record, for everybody who is interested. I am interested in getting my mail over into a linux-imap-server running on maildir-mailstorage. Anybody got a clue on how to do this without much (any?) handwork? (Doesn't matter if it takes a week, would leave the machine running when I am in my holidays *g*) (Specs of my test: Athlon 1,2Ghz, 768MB ram, 36gb u2w scsi discs, Mailsample was last years archive of postfix-users-ml, 8 mails of 300Mb total) Timo Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronising Mails [How?/FeatureRequest]
Hi, As I am running TheBat! on two machines, a desktop and a Notebook, I have to synchronize their Mailbase (about 300.000 mails, mostly in 3 accounts), and because I use only my Desktop when I am at home, I have to sync about daily. I always sync for all data in all accounts, and I always use the same sync-files. For each sync, I have to go throught the following stages: Tools Sync, [OK], [Select All], [OK], [Choose File], [Save], [OK], [Choose File], [Save], [OK], [Choose File], [Save] Thats 16 Mouseclicks for synchronising, why isn't there a button to do that with one click? (or a menuentry, would be two clicks) Thats pretty much work for a synchronize function that doesn't even do what it says (it just copies all mail over, I have to delete mails on both machines before I sync to get rid of it) Timo -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: many messages in account (Backup fails)
Hi Allie, * Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED], Saturday, May 8, 2004, 12:50:04 PM: Timo Boettcher, [TB] wrote: TB How many messages do you have in your TheBat!-mailaccounts? I TB have reached 26 mails in one account (yes, a quarter million) TB and though I can back it up, I can't restore it on my notebook, I TB always get error reading file C:\path\to\backup.tbk Is there a TB limit of size of a backupfile or the number of messages in a TB backupfile or an account that is backuped? Did you get any errors at all during the back up process? no What size is the backup file when you're finished? 600MB-700MB AFAIK, there's no limit to the size of the backup. Timo Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
many messages in account (Backup fails)
Hi, How many messages do you have in your TheBat!-mailaccounts? I have reached 26 mails in one account (yes, a quarter million) and though I can back it up, I can't restore it on my notebook, I always get error reading file C:\path\to\backup.tbk Is there a limit of size of a backupfile or the number of messages in a backupfile or an account that is backuped? Timo Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Searching for a Tool)
Hi, * Marck D Pearlstone, Monday, March 1, 2004, 8:16:01 PM: Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. IMO, a simple name is different from a signature, meaning, the OP didn't have a signature. The only signature in that post was added by the listserv, and therefore should have the (additional) dashdashspacereturn sequence. Or would it hurt if more than one sig had that sequence? BTW, you TBUDL-Mission statement had three listserv-signatures without a sig-delimiter before them. Sorry if that has been already discussed, I haven't found anything in the archives. Timo -- Here could be my signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat doesn't notice when hdd full
Hi, * Bill Blinn Technology Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED], Friday, February 20, 2004, 1:43:53 PM: Doesn't Windows start carping when free space drops below 85% or so? I may be remembering something that didn't occur, but I seem to recall some version of Windows grumbling about this. yeah. but when you have a separate partition for you swap-file, with the swap file filling the complete partition, you don't want windows complaining every 5 minutes. Timo Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat doesn't notice when hdd full
Hi, I had just a case of my System-drive (where I have my mails) running full, and theBat didn't do anything about it, it just stopped working. I couldn't even delete mails, and had hoped for a hint about my full Drive. Anyone seen this before? Is this a bug? Timo Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat doesn't notice when hdd full
Hi Roelof, * Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thursday, February 19, 2004, 3:13:00 PM: On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:29:07 +0100GMT (19-2-04, 13:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: I had just a case of my System-drive (where I have my mails) running full, and theBat didn't do anything about it, it just stopped working. Well, TB needs free space to work properly, downloading new mail and composing mail are functions that require disk space. I undersatnd that. I had hoped for a warning Your hdd is full. Can't operate like this. I couldn't even delete mails, Deleting mail wouldn't help.[...] When I tried to delete mail, TB did nothing. It didn't delete it, it didn't even crash (I would have accepted that) but it did nothing. and had hoped for a hint about my full Drive. That would've been nice. Was it TB that completely filled your disk or another program? I guess it was TB. Is this a bug? No. It's more like a hardware restriction, like your car won't run without gas. But my car warns me before I run out of gas. Timo Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Start TheBat without automatically fetching mail (which is set)
Hi, is it possible to start a Bat that is set to fetch all mails from several accounts (and delete them on the server afterwards) so that it doesn't fetch mails? I haven't used my Primary machine at home very much in the last time and want to restore a backup from my notebook on it (not using the time consuming sync-method). Timo Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SSL StartTls problem
Hi, I have a POP-account with Connection set to Secure to regular port (STARTTLS) In my Log I get: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: +OK Begin SSL/TLS negotiation now. I don't understand why that is an error. The server is a Courier-Imap under my Control. Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB not displaying message completly
Hi Roelof, Nachricht vom Dienstag, 25. November 2003, 00:33:49: Hallo Timo, Got the message, doesn't display completely. On forwarding (or redirecting) it displays fully. Any idea why? Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply-Template
Hi, I am trying to create a reply-template that quotes the senders name and/or mailaddress and has (for all subfolders of my mailinglist-folder) an english date/time, regardless of my windows, thebat, spellchecking and other settings. Is that possible? Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Import Outlook Express Address-Book
Hi, how can I import an Addressbook from OutlookExpress? Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply-Template
Hi Tony, * Tony Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2003-11-26, 15:02:14: A reminder of what Timo Boettcher typed on: 26 November 2003 at 14:09:30 GMT +0100 I am trying to create a reply-template that quotes the senders name and/or mailaddress and has (for all subfolders of my mailinglist-folder) an english date/time, regardless of my windows, thebat, spellchecking and other settings. Is that possible? Similar to this one you mean? All the ingredients your asking for are in it. Maybe not in the correct order you want but if it is the sort of thing let me know and I'll send it to you off list. If you give me an idea of the format you want I'll see if I can format that way. Something like what I did above by hand... Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB not displaying message completly
Hi Roelof, Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 26. November 2003, 17:57:25: Hallo Timo, On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:47:11 +0100GMT (26-11-03, 12:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Got the message, doesn't display completely. On forwarding (or redirecting) it displays fully. TB Any idea why? Not really. The differences between a forwarded/redirected message and the original are -The PGP-MIME attachment is missing in the new message, but AFAIK TB has no problem with those -The original has these headers: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new has these: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -I suppose it has something to do with the charset or the quoted-printable that the original message is flooded with =20's and =3D's, but the place where TB stops displaying the message isn't at one of those, but in the middele of a word. Over here the message stops being displayed in the middle of the word 'potential' in the sentence 'note is that 1.3.29 addresses and fixes 1 potential security issue:' It ends at '1 pot', is that the same for you? If it is we could point Ritlabs to this. Yeah, exact the same character for me. I tried different viewers for the message and that didn't help. Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import Outlook Express Address-Book
Hi Marek, Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 26. November 2003, 15:15:27: Hello all, Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Timo Boettcher wrote: how can I import an Addressbook from OutlookExpress? download utility WAB2LDIF, load OE WAB file and export it to LDIF file. Then You can can import this file via TB's Address Book. Thx, that worked Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply-Template
Hi Roelof, * Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED], 6:17:46 PM: BTW This is the third message of yours that I'm replying to this afternoon (that's no problem) Thx for that and each time I had to delete your name and the listfooter in order to trim my quotes. When you put a signature delimiter (dashdashspaceenter on a newline) just above your name TB (and all other grown up mail clients) deletes them automatically from the reply. In order to see what I mean, just reply to this message. This line should be the last one quoted, though it isn't the last in my mail. I didn't notice that, since I don't use a (real) signature, and all other mailinglists I use (except the ones sponsored by Sourceforge) that have a listfooter put that sequence above their list-footer on their own... -- Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB not displaying message completly
Hi Roelof, Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 22:33:10: Hallo Timo, On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:54:50 +0100GMT (19-11-03, 19:54 +0100, where I live), you wrote: I have got a problem with some list-mail where TB doesn't display the complete mail, just the first part of it... Looking at the mail Perhaps you want to have a look at one of these mails? It's a mailing I'll try that... I just got this weeks GWN, same problem. Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB not displaying message completly
Hi Roelof, Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 22:33:10: Hallo Timo, On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:54:50 +0100GMT (19-11-03, 19:54 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TB I have got a problem with some list-mail where TB doesn't TB display the complete mail, just the first part of it... Looking TB at the mail can you read them fully when you browse for deleted messages in your Inbox? TB How do I do that? Select the Inbox. In the menu do: folder - browse deleted messages They do not show there... TB Perhaps you want to have a look at one of these mails? It's a TB mailing I'll try that... Thanks. Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB not displaying message completly
Hi Roelof, Nachricht vom Montag, 17. November 2003, 18:21:46: Hallo Timo, On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:26:32 +0100GMT (17-11-03, 17:26 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TB I have got a problem with some list-mail where TB doesn't display TB the complete mail, just the first part of it... Looking at the mail TB with the source-editor shows the complete mail, but doesn't reveal TB anything special at the place where the normal view ends. Is there anything these messages (I'm presuming it happens more than once) have in common? Size, origin, folder, whatever. origin, yes, folder, too Still the same problem when you move them to a different folder. yes in case you've filtered them to another folder on receipt, I tried that, but somehow it doesn't work can you read them fully when you browse for deleted messages in your Inbox? How do I do that? When it's a folder thing, it might be a solution to close TB and delete/rename the matching messages.tbi for that folder. (But leave the messages.tbb alone, that's where TB stores your actual messages.) Tried that, no success. In case it isn't a folder thing you'll need to give us more hints. Perhaps you want to have a look at one of these mails? It's a mailing list that sends one mail per week (sometime on Monday), the Gentoo-Weekly-newsletter. Just send an empty mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is for unsubscribing. Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB not displaying message completly
Hi, I have got a problem with some list-mail where TB doesn't display the complete mail, just the first part of it... Looking at the mail with the source-editor shows the complete mail, but doesn't reveal anything special at the place where the normal view ends. Timo Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
