Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello zParticle, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 11:47:17 AM, you wrote: ken green wrote: If the memo window could be docked on the preview window screen, then the ability to change the subject line would almost become a moot point. Yep, that's exactly what it needs to make the memo feature useful on a regular basis. I just submitted a feature request to have the memo editor as an additional page(tab) in the message preview section. And, that the feature can be turned on or off by the user. Or if the programmers want to get fancy, make the entire memo appear as a tooltip when mousing over the memo column. For bonus points, allow in-place editing of the memo from the column list (like renaming a file in Windows Explorer). Just being able to display the memo as a column and as an additional page in the preview section is enough for me. Especially, that it is possible to perform a search on the memos. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Are we talking about taking the time (an extra step) to put an exclamation at the beginning of every memo, just so that the column width can be set to 7? It's most likely just to accommodate the fact that the message list typically uses proportional fonts, and to provide a consistent visual cue. For example, at a column width of 7, you'll only see a single PIXEL for some characters, such as a capital T, which might be missed in a quick visual scan. And if you widen it, you'll end up with a variable number of characters appearing in that column, which is kinda messy. I'm pretty sure ! was selected because it's a single pixel wide and effectively provides a consistent visual icon, not unlike the park/flag symbols. -- zParticle Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
ken green wrote: Are there are any plans to allow the memo window to be docked? That would solve these issues. If the memo window could be docked on the preview window screen, then the ability to change the subject line would almost become a moot point. Yep, that's exactly what it needs to make the memo feature useful on a regular basis. Or if the programmers want to get fancy, make the entire memo appear as a tooltip when mousing over the memo column. For bonus points, allow in-place editing of the memo from the column list (like renaming a file in Windows Explorer). -- zParticle Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello zParticle et al, I originated the ! commnet. Sorry for the delay in responding. Sven is giving my system fits. Not infecting system, just a lot of messages carrying Sven. On Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 07:40:33, you wrote: I'm pretty sure ! was selected because it's a single pixel wide and effectively provides a consistent visual icon, not unlike the park/flag symbols. Exactly. It's a kludge admittedly, but one that seems appropriate given the many other items Stefan et al must attend to. Sheeesh, I never know what's going to ignite a debate on TBUDL. ;-) -- Regards, Paddy L Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Richard Wakeford, On Monday, September 22, 2003 at 16:21:15, you wrote: Another useful item but I'd prefer to have Memo in the columns because it shows all the messages with memos straight away To save space in the message list columns, I start each memo with an !, which allows me to easily see which messages have memos without using precious column width. I have my memo column set to 7. -- Regards, Paddy L Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Paddy L wrote: To save space in the message list columns, I start each memo with an !, which allows me to easily see which messages have memos without using precious column width. I have my memo column set to 7 I'm confused. Are you saying that you start each memo with ! to save space - as opposed to just starting the memo? Wouldn't any memo have a regular character in it, so that you could easily see what messages have a memo or not if the column was one character width. Am I missing something? Surely you're not talking about using ! just to save space over M for instance??? -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Martin Webster wrote: I quite like Miguel's suggestion. I've selected Memo Auto-view and placed the floating window on the right hand side of the preview pane. Most messages wrap nicely at around 70 characters so there's plenty of room. Ugh! Maybe this isn't the case with v2, but I tried doing what you suggested (good idea, by the way), but the Memo window REMAINS OPEN EVEN WHEN TB IS MINIMIZED! So if I switch away from TB to another program, there's the Memo box hanging there in front of another app. I assume this isn't the case with v2. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding a memo to message
On 9/23/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ken green said: Paddy L wrote: To save space in the message list columns, I start each memo with an !, which allows me to easily see which messages have memos without using precious column width. I have my memo column set to 7 I'm confused. Are you saying that you start each memo with ! to save space - as opposed to just starting the memo? Wouldn't any memo have a regular character in it, so that you could easily see what messages have a memo or not if the column was one character width. Am I missing something? Surely you're not talking about using ! just to save space over M for instance??? Here are some messages that might help clear it up. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg45077.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg45122.html -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- They say when nature calls you should answer it, I say let the answering machine get it. --- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Paddy, On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Another useful item but I'd prefer to have Memo in the columns because it shows all the messages with memos straight away To save space in the message list columns, I start each memo with an !, which allows me to easily see which messages have memos without using precious column width. I have my memo column set to 7. Nice one. I had my memo column to 40 but 7 with a ! is a very good solution. thanks. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello ken, On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ugh! Maybe this isn't the case with v2, but I tried doing what you suggested (good idea, by the way), but the Memo window REMAINS OPEN EVEN WHEN TB IS MINIMIZED! So if I switch away from TB to another program, there's the Memo box hanging there in front of another app. I assume this isn't the case with v2. 'Fraid it is ;-( -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Wednesday, September 24, 2003, ken green wrote: but the Memo window REMAINS OPEN EVEN WHEN TB IS MINIMIZED! Try right-clicking on the memo window. Don't know if 1.6x has it, but I just disovered that the v2-memo has an always on top-option. -- Urban Dew is formed on leaves when the sun shines down on them and makes them perspire Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 at 7:59:26 PM, Urban wrote in the message Adding a memo to message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: but the Memo window REMAINS OPEN EVEN WHEN TB IS MINIMIZED! Try right-clicking on the memo window. Don't know if 1.6x has it, but I just disovered that the v2-memo has an always on top-option. 1.62r has the Always on top option. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Jim D wrote: Here are some messages that might help clear it up. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg45077.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg45122.html Neither of those posts address the issue I was bringing up. That issue was/is: Are we talking about taking the time (an extra step) to put an exclamation at the beginning of every memo, just so that the column width can be set to 7? My point was that you can set the column width to 7 and still see *something* (an indicator that the message has a memo). Of course, if you want to see the entire first letter of the first word in the memo, you may have to push the column width to 11 or 12. So my question is this: Are people really taking that extra step to insert ! before each memo so that they can save screen real estate? I thought that the point was to have a memo presence indicator. By skipping the step of inserting that ! and just typing the memo, you can still have an indicator. And still set the column width to 7. Again am I missing something? Is this part of an organization system? I'm curious. If it's just a preference thing - OK, I'll shut up. But I was asking if the exclamation point was part of something else (special filter, search criteria, etc.) I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around the idea as it has been explained so far. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Urban wrote: Try right-clicking on the memo window. Don't know if 1.6x has it, but I just disovered that the v2-memo has an always on top-option. Thanks for the tip - didn't notice the right-click option before. Unfortunately, the option is system-wide and not TB-specific. What that means is that if I set up the memo window to reside in the right side of the preview screen (a logical place for it), as soon as I click on the message the memo window loses focus and disappears!! That doesn't make sense. Are there are any plans to allow the memo window to be docked? That would solve these issues. If the memo window could be docked on the preview window screen, then the ability to change the subject line would almost become a moot point. -- Ken Green TheBat! v1.62r, Win2000 SP4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding a memo to message
On 9/23/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ken green said: If it's just a preference thing - OK, I'll shut up. Yes, I think it's a preference thing. :) -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- My greatest fear in life is that no one will remember me after I'm dead. --some dead guy --- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding a memo to message
How do I write a memo for a received message? (This was mentioned in the list earlier as an alternative to editing the message subject.) I've added the memo column but not sure what to do next. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/22/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello P.Johnson, How do I write a memo for a received message? Select View/Memo Auto-View or hit Shift+Ctrl+I, then write memo and *save* it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp PLAYING: Joe Sample - Seven Years of Good Luck (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello MAU, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I write a memo for a received message? Select View/Memo Auto-View or hit Shift+Ctrl+I, then write memo and *save* it. Never had need to do that as yet but thought I'd try it to see exactly what happens - not a lot!! OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding a memo to message
Miguel, P How do I write a memo for a received message? M Select View/Memo Auto-View or hit Shift+Ctrl+I, then write memo and M *save* it. Gracias Miguel! I couldn't see for looking. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/22/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, On 22 September 2003, 23:18 Richard Wakeford [RW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip RW OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message RW you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) Right-click on the columns and add the memo field. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP296X1v+PP8p0/caEQLJzQCg426ibavl1Gs3Xf76AanR35ILQBoAoLaj xDuAiyAp+7DI57BlZVLmQgc4 =F5v5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Richard, OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) Memos can be displayed as a column in the message list pane, in a separate window if you select Auto-View, and are one of the options for the scope of a search with the Search Tool. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp PLAYING: Michael Lington - Off The Hook (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Martin, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RW OK, the memo gets saved but how do you then find a memo for a message RW you may well have forgotten you wrote a memo for some time ago? ;-) Right-click on the columns and add the memo field. Always something to learn about this programme. It's like a bottomless pit. Thanks, could be very useful. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, On 22 September 2003, 23:55 Richard Wakeford [RW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right-click on the columns and add the memo field. RW Always something to learn about this programme. It's like a bottomless RW pit. Thanks, could be very useful. I quite like Miguel's suggestion. I've selected Memo Auto-view and placed the floating window on the right hand side of the preview pane. Most messages wrap nicely at around 70 characters so there's plenty of room. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2+Aw1v+PP8p0/caEQINZgCghGobq3S3e0L2Bx2VcWS8DO+/JX8AmwaV cvj+a3vGQejTrLIxDL6Ak09i =UtIL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding a memo to message
Hello Martin, On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I quite like Miguel's suggestion. I've selected Memo Auto-view and placed the floating window on the right hand side of the preview pane. Most messages wrap nicely at around 70 characters so there's plenty of room. Another useful item but I'd prefer to have Memo in the columns because it shows all the messages with memos straight away rather than memos only showing up when the message is selected with the auto-view on the right hand side. Horses for courses really and nice to have so many choices. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
