Re: Administrator and more
On 16-04-2001 at 23:48, Michal Kozusznik kindly wrote: Saturday, April 14, 2001, 5:12:12 PM, Karin Spaink wrote: You'll need to install TB as Windows administrator. Then, *within* TB, go to Options -- Network Administration -- Groups, and group names: Name1, Name2 etc and give them User rights. Make sure to create one Admin account and give it administrator rights. OK. I'll try. But what account is an Administrator one under W98 ??? I'm not that familioar with Win98; I use NT. But probably your own suggestion would work: Is it this one, without any registering (ESC on user name requester)??? - K - -- Nell discovered that a smoothly functioning system was much harder to puzzle out than one that was broken. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Administrator and more
Friday, April 13, 2001, 8:27:47 AM, Michal Kozusznik wrote: snip MK How can I use TB! in multiuser mode if: MK 1. Administrator user cannot log-in from other windows account then MK Admin account was installed? MK 2. I can't get working second TB! account MK 3. Any user logged in its account can receive mails of other users In order to get ANY account to work under a different windows account, just "add" that user account while logged in under that account. If you use something other than the default file locations, you will have to point the "new" Admin account to the correct location. Once you've added the account under another windows account, it will be available. (Note that re-creating the Admin account under a different windows account will require logging into TB! with an account that has add-user privileges, obviously - or re-installing TB! over top of itself). Hmm, guess that sounds sort of confusing. OK, let's say that, for example, you created the TB! administrator account "TBAdmin" while logged into Windows as "Administrator". Now you want to be able to access the same account while logged into Windows as "Joe". So, log into Windows as "Joe", then run TB! and add a user account. Name the user account "TBAdmin" and point the user folders to the same location as you did the first time around. That's all there is to it! There is no need to install TB! into multiple folders or anything else - you're just re-creating the Registry key for that TB! account under another Windows account (this could probably be done by exporting then importing the registry keys as well, but unless you need to do it for a LOT of accounts, it's probably easier to just re-add the TB! user account). -- Best regards, Dianamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
Hello Diana, Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 7:08:31 PM, Diana Calder wrote: There is no need to install TB! into multiple folders or anything else - you're just re-creating the Registry key for that TB! account under another Windows account (this could probably be done by exporting then importing the re It's very important what you've wrote. It's exactly what I asked for. I'll try this. But if I have admin account created under other Win account, I will not be able to create another accounts because it can be done with admin account only (and it is available under another account). But as you say, I'll try to install TB! over existing installation. In any way, mail accounts administration under TB! is very confusing and can screw mind a lot of people. I suggest (for developers) to make it easier. I mean, if I decide to personalizing accounts by giving the user-name and pass, these account should be accessible in any time, from any windows account in easy way. Thanx all for help. I will notify you about final solution (if I find that one) Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoop *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
Hello Karin, Saturday, April 14, 2001, 5:12:12 PM, Karin Spaink wrote: You'll need to install TB as Windows administrator. Then, *within* TB, go to Options -- Network Administration -- Groups, and group names: Name1, Name2 etc and give them User rights. Make sure to create one Admin account and give it administrator rights. OK. I'll try. But what account is an Administrator one under W98 ??? Is it this one, without any registering (ESC on user name requester)??? Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoop *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
On 13-04-2001 at 14:49, Michal Kozusznik kindly wrote: Friday, April 13, 2001, 1:36:17 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TB is designed to be user specific. *Either* use a single windows login and multiple TB users *Or* use multiple Windows logins *and* multiple TB installations. You can probably use a single executable set but will need different mailbase root folders for each user/account. Yep. You're right. I'm doing as you wrote. Hmm. Is it enough to install TB! into the same directory from different windows account (is it the reason of register settings?) You'll need to install TB as Windows administrator. Then, *within* TB, go to Options -- Network Administration -- Groups, and group names: Name1, Name2 etc and give them User rights. Make sure to create one Admin account and give it administrator rights. Assign the appropriate accounts to each name, close TB and restart. TB will ask you for a user name. If you enter that, you'll only see the accounts assigned to that user. - K - -- I do not fear computers. I fear lack of them. - Isaac Asimov -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal, On 13 April 2001 at 13:07:51 +0200 (which was 12:07 where I live) Michal Kozusznik wrote to Michal Kozusznik and made these points: MK Due to this, other users will not be able to read this mails from MK another places (ie. from home) If you (or a user) are configuring multiple access points for mail then the setting "Leave mail on server for xx days" should be used. This will allow mail to be read from multiple locations without problem. MK With this 3 problem described under this subject, TB! is useless MK as multi-user client :((( I disagree. IMHO TB goes further in this respect than most (if not any) other client I have seen. It's not perfect, agreed, but it does go quite a way. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbj2DnkJKuSnc2gEQI+FACg4tquqFvok356EyNMdbhzeJhwA6YAn05c Vd8T3ARFt/sMU34Ke3tpqQDi =j5Vd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal, On 12 April 2001 at 22:59:50 +0200 (which was 21:59 where I live) Michal Kozusznik wrote to Ming-Li and made these points: MK ... But if the TB! admin acc is created under "name1" Win account, MK it can't be used under "name2" win account. TB! says: there is no MK "Admin" account. I have only one admin account. I don't know what MK happens with more such accounts. MK More important is, I can't made working more then one user account MK based on the group. TB! doesn't say this account doesn't exist. When I MK use wrong password TB! says: "Wrong password". But when I use correct MK pass, TB! going to hang or nothing happens (Cancel button on password MK requester usually works) You have made a basic error here. TB stores its configuration in HKCU. If you log in as a completely different user at the *Windows* level, then you are dealing with a whole new installation of TB. TB is designed to be user specific. *Either* use a single windows login and multiple TB users *Or* use multiple Windows logins *and* multiple TB installations. You can probably use a single executable set but will need different mailbase root folders for each user/account. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbksTnkJKuSnc2gEQKikACfVNoURM1I+UKv2nFnb9B7lCmBvdsAoJJR T84xL7CKew5SITLpVUHmkvXT =h2+V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
Hello Marck, Friday, April 13, 2001, 1:32:40 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: If you (or a user) are configuring multiple access points for mail then the setting "Leave mail on server for xx days" should be used. This will allow mail to be read from multiple locations without problem. ??? I think if I'm logged-in as chosen user (not administrator), I should not be able to do anything with other users accounts, including receiving their posts !!! In folder windows is OK: I can see only my accounts. But in pull-down menus of SEND and RECEIVE buttons I can see other accounts. Even administrator account. I think it's very incorrect. I disagree. IMHO TB goes further in this respect than most (if not any) other client I have seen. You're right. But as client of single user. It's not perfect, agreed, but it does go quite a way. How can I use TB! in multiuser mode if: 1. Administrator user cannot log-in from other windows account then Admin account was installed? 2. I can't get working second TB! account 3. Any user logged in its account can receive mails of other users Sorry, Or I misunderstand something or there is some true troubles. I'm using TB! long time, and I hope these problems will be solved as soon as possible Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
Hello Marck, Friday, April 13, 2001, 1:36:17 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TB is designed to be user specific. *Either* use a single windows login and multiple TB users *Or* use multiple Windows logins *and* multiple TB installations. You can probably use a single executable set but will need different mailbase root folders for each user/account. Yep. You're right. I'm doing as you wrote. Hmm. Is it enough to install TB! into the same directory from different windows account (is it the reason of register settings?) If I'll have to install TB! in different places for each windows account it will be waste of HDD space. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Administrator and more
Hello I have defined one account as administrator and others as users. Is it correct, that administrator account is available only with windows login where the account was defined? I mean, When I log in into WIndows as another user, I can't use Administrator account. Second problem is with second user account I've defined. When I trying to log-in TB! doesn't start, but no error req appears and log-in requester doesn't disappear. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 at 15:47:08 +0200 Michal Kozusznik wrote: I have defined one account as administrator and others as users. Is it correct, that administrator account is available only with windows login where the account was defined? I mean, When I log in into WIndows as another user, I can't use Administrator account. I haven't tried, but I don't think so. The administrator account of TheBat and the account of the same name of Windows are two different things. They're not connected in anyway, AFAIK. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
Hello Ming-Li, Thursday, April 12, 2001, 6:05:22 PM, Ming-Li wrote: I haven't tried, but I don't think so. The administrator account of TheBat and the account of the same name of Windows are two different things. They're not connected in anyway, AFAIK. Nop. I talked not about this. I cannot use administrator account on another windows account then the TB! admin account was created. Doesn't matter what are the accounts names. In this case my TB! admin account is called just "Admin". Windows account has different names. But if the TB! admin acc is created under "name1" Win account, it can't be used under "name2" win account. TB! says: there is no "Admin" account. I have only one admin account. I don't know what happens with more such accounts. More important is, I can't made working more then one user account based on the group. TB! doesn't say this account doesn't exist. When I use wrong password TB! says: "Wrong password". But when I use correct pass, TB! going to hang or nothing happens (Cancel button on password requester usually works) It happens under Windows 98 with IE5.5 (if it does matter) Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoop *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
