HTML viewer preferences (colours)

2009-11-09 Thread MFPA
Hi


How to you force the HTML viewer to respect your colour choices over
those of the sender? 

By default, I read all emails in white print on a black background,
usually in plaintext but it is sometimes necessary to look at an HTML
version because the plaintext version is meaningless. Aside from
frequently being formatted in garish, vomit-inducing colours,
sometimes the HTML version is poorly formatted. For example, I want to
be able to read the message even when the sender has specified the
colour of (some of) the text or of (part of) the background but not
both, which can lead to invisible or hard-to-read text.

In some older versions of TB! I worked around this problem by setting
cream on grey instead of white on black for the RTV, but I have not
been able for several versions to find anywhere to set different
colours for the RTV than the PTV.

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MFPA,

  A reminder of what MFPA on TBUDL typed on:
  02 December 2004 at 03:57:33 GMT +0100

M Anybody got any ideas for the account tree windo

 Pain? Best use emulsion in case you want to change the colour as it's
 easier to scrape off the screen :)

 Don't think there is another way to change it.


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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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Colour all folders in black?

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread Mic Cullen
At 18:30 [GMT-0500] on Wednesday December 1 (actual time - 7:30am on Thursday
in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:

[snips]

Chris The whole point of the Appearance control panel is to provide a
Chris consistent look and feel in all applications easily. Therefore, it is
Chris my opinion, that The Bat! should not contain its own customization for
Chris these colors. However, it should obey the user's settings

And if the user wants to be able to set TheBat! to different colours than the
generic ones, why shouldn't they be able to? Is every room (floor, ceiling,
walls, etc) in your house (and the outside, for that matter) exactly the same
colour?

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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M Anybody got any ideas for the account tree windo

  Pain? Best use emulsion in case you want to change the colour as it's
  easier to scrape off the screen :)

  Don't think there is another way to change it.

What about this?

CCed to TBOT, since it will eat up the attached picture here.

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mica!

On Thursday, December 02, 2004, 11:25 AM, you wrote:

 M Anybody got any ideas for the account tree windo

  Pain? Best use emulsion in case you want to change the colour as it's
  easier to scrape off the screen :)

  Don't think there is another way to change it.

 What about this?

 CCed to TBOT, since it will eat up the attached picture here.

That is very pleasant to the eyes and decipherable to the brain's
deciphering mechanism, Mica?

Step-by-step, for everyone, please tell how to do it?

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary!

On Thursday, December 02, 2004, 1:14 PM, you wrote:

 That is very pleasant to the eyes and decipherable to the brain's
 deciphering mechanism, Mica?
 ^

Punctuation typos, sorry. Meant to make a declarative statement,
...decipherable to the brain's deciphering mechanism, Mica.

And then to ask him, please, to say how he did it!

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mica!

On Thursday, December 02, 2004, 1:35 PM, you wrote:

 Just a right click on a folder and select a Color Group (you have to
 have defined the background colour of the given Color Group first).

Where do you define those background colours?

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Thursday, 2 December, 2004, at 6:21:33 AM, Mica Mijatovic wrote:


 Anybody got any ideas for the account tree window?

 Colour all folders in black?

Where is the option to do that, please?

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-02 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Thursday, 2 December, 2004, at 10:32:01 PM, I wrote:

 Colour all folders in black?

 Where is the option to do that, please?

OK I got it...

 Just a right click on a folder and select a Color Group (you have to
 have defined the background colour of the given Color Group first).

Thanks. Looking much better now.

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text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread MFPA

Hi

Is it possible to change the colours of text and background in the
message list and account tree windows? I find light text colour on
dark background colour much easier on the eye can only work out
how to achieve this for the preview pane and message text window
(via plain text viewer settings).

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MFPA,

  A reminder of what MFPA on TBUDL typed on:
  01 December 2004 at 22:52:49 GMT +0100

M Is it possible to change the colours of text and background in the
M message list and account tree windows?

 Not sure about the account tree but there is a way for the message list. I
 have a filter that changes the colour of unread mail and also the colour
 on my own posts. You could filter all messages to a colour if there isn't
 another way.


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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MFPA!

On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, 3:51 PM, you wrote:

 Is it possible to change the colours of text and background in the
 message list and account tree windows?

Options/Preferences/Messaages/Colour Groups and Font/Change button

But this only changes the font.

For background, I've been dependent on Desktop/Properties/Themes and
Appearances tabs in Windows XP.

I wish very much that this could be controlled through The Bat!

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary,

  A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBUDL typed on:
  01 December 2004 at 23:14:34 GMT +0100

MB I wish very much that this could be controlled through The Bat!

 It can, just set up a filter that filters every message to whatever colour
 you want. I have one that does just my posts but it's easy to *.* them
 all.

 Or should I say Tribble.Tribble then all :)


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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony!

On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, 4:26 PM, you wrote:

 MB I wish very much that this could be controlled through The Bat!

  It can, just set up a filter that filters every message to whatever colour
  you want. I have one that does just my posts but it's easy to *.* them
  all.

The background, too, Tony, or just the font?

  Or should I say Tribble.Tribble then all

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary,

  A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBUDL typed on:
  01 December 2004 at 23:34:29 GMT +0100

MB The background, too, Tony, or just the font?

 Both, you can have different ones for read and unread as I have if you
 want. I'm orf to bed, nighty night.


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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony!

On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, 4:43 PM, you wrote:

 MB The background, too, Tony, or just the font?

  Both, you can have different ones for read and unread as I have if you
  want. I'm orf to bed, nighty night.

Okay. I'll have a play with it. :) Nighty-night and sweet dreams to
you.

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Wed, 1 Dec 2004,
   @  @  at 21:51:49 +, when MFPA wrote:

 Is it possible to change the colours of text and background in the
 message list and account tree windows? I find light text colour on
 dark background colour much easier on the eye can only work out
 how to achieve this for the preview pane and message text window
 (via plain text viewer settings).

As for the background colour, perhaps is easiest way to change it on the
level of OS. Would be good if this is possible locally, in TB.

I use RGB 248 240 224 and am getting a fine colour of an older dry
paper. (-:

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 Hello Mary,

   A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBUDL typed on:
   01 December 2004 at 23:14:34 GMT +0100

MB I wish very much that this could be controlled through The Bat!

  It can, just set up a filter that filters every message to whatever colour
  you want. I have one that does just my posts but it's easy to *.* them
  all.

But what you do with the folder pane? Well... I see that folders can be
coloured as well. There.

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread Chris

Mica Mijatovic @ 2004-Dec-1 6:06:11 PM
text and background colours in message list and account tree mid:[EMAIL 
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 As for the background colour, perhaps is easiest way to change it on
 the level of OS. Would be good if this is possible locally, in TB.

The whole point of the Appearance control panel is to provide a
consistent look and feel in all applications easily. Therefore, it is
my opinion, that The Bat! should not contain its own customization for
these colors. However, it should obey the user's settings. Right now,
the MircoEd editor obeys theseit should because HTML backgrounds are 
configurable.

The plain text viewer respects the color settings; however, the Rich
Text/HTML Viewer does not. When the rich text viewer is displaying a
plain text message, it should respect these colors. When it is
displaying a HTML message with a configured background, that color
should be used.

Simply put, The Bat! should respect the colors configured using the
Appearance control panel except when overridden by HTML color settings
or Color Group settings.

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Re[2]: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread wayne_king


Wednesday, December 1, 2004, 4:30:15 PM, Chris wrote:

 The whole point of the Appearance control panel is to provide a
 consistent look and feel in all applications easily. Therefore, it is
 my opinion, that The Bat! should not contain its own customization for
 these colors. However, it should obey the user's settings. ...

I have to disagree somewhat with this idea.  While consistent look and feel is 
often a
good idea, it depends on the application and the taste and needs of the user.  
Microsoft
is often off base in their assumptions about what's best for the end user.  In 
general, I
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Mod: Cut mark (was: text and background colours in message list and account tree)

2004-12-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo wayne_king,

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:30:41 -0700GMT (2-12-2004, 1:30 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

WK is often off base in their assumptions about what's best for the end user.  
In general, I
WK prefer applications that give you a choice of the OS settings or custom 
settings.


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You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in
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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Wednesday, 1 December, 2004, at 11:09:12 PM, Mica Mijatovic wrote:


 But what you do with the folder pane? Well... I see that folders can be
 coloured as well.

How?

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Thursday, 2 December, 2004, at 12:30:41 AM, wayne_king wrote:


 While consistent look and feel is often a good idea, it depends
 on the application and the taste and needs of the user.

Indeed. Why would anybody want the same settings for a window full
of text as for a window full of icons, for example?

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Re: text and background colours in message list and account tree

2004-12-01 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Wednesday, 1 December, 2004, at 9:59:03 PM, Tony Boom wrote:

  Not sure about the account tree

Can't think of a way so far...

 but there is a way for the message list. I have a filter that
 changes the colour of unread mail and also the colour on my own
 posts. You could filter all messages to a colour if there isn't
 another way.

Thank you. I have just edited my colour groups so that all have
black background. Kind of works for the message list but looks odd
at left hand side when viewing threaded.

Thanks also to everyone else.

Anybody got any ideas for the account tree window?

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Editor colours

2004-11-29 Thread Admin at AK
In HTML/Windows Editor layout:

I have the following set:

Regular text - navy
Quoted text - olive
Signature text - silver

Now:

If I reply to a message the quoted text is olive, my reply text is also olive 
even when separated by two carriage returns above and below the new text.

The signature text is navy.

If I start a new message the text is in navy and the signature text is in navy.

Am I missing some setting?

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Folder colours

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips

Hi Bat! Fans,

I know this couldn't be done in 1.6x, but now 2.x is here - can
folders have their own unique colours except the bog standard ones?

Handy to identify the top folders in a group of nested folders, for
instance.

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Re: Folder colours

2003-09-18 Thread MAU
Hello John,

 I know this couldn't be done in 1.6x, but now 2.x is here - can
 folders have their own unique colours except the bog standard ones?

I'm afraid it is not possible and I wish it was. Something like Colour
Groups for folders. And perhaps the possibility of selecting which
group(s) to view in the folder pane (am I dreaming? :).

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Re: Folder colours

2002-04-23 Thread Mandara

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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 13:50:57  +1200 Carren wrote:

CS I have one of my accounts set up with multiple folders and sub folders
CS for all my list mail. All the received folders are blue. I have no
CS recollection of making them blue - they just are! I have just created
CS another set of folders/sub folders for yet another list I have
CS subscribed to, but the received folder in this tree doesn't appear
CS as blue. Is there anyway I can make it the same colour as the others?

Color of the folders signifies state/status of the mail inside. If you
have unread messages, then folder is blue. If you have unread messages
in subfolder[s], then main folder is marked with red check[ing] sign,
etc.

If you like to turn blue colored folder in yellow one (as others are),
then you just make all messages in it read. But I wouldn't do that
just for a color game. :-)

+ Principle of painting of folders is, therefore, status of messages
inside.

Experiment a bit, and you'll find more meanings about colors. Have a fun
fun.

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Re: Folder colours

2002-04-23 Thread Carren Stuart

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On Tuesday, 23 April 2002 at 1:50 p.m. I wrote:



CS OK ... probably yet another stupid question no doubt due to yet
CS another brain freeze on my part :-)

CS I have one of my accounts set up with multiple folders and sub
CS folders for all my list mail. All the received folders are blue.
CS I have no recollection of making them blue - they just are! I have
CS just created another set of folders/sub folders for yet another
CS list I have subscribed to, but the received folder in this tree
CS doesn't appear as blue. Is there anyway I can make it the same
CS colour as the others?

Duh! I was right - brain freeze again! Thanks Melissa :-)

When will I ever learn!


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Re: Folder colours

2002-04-23 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Carren Stuart,

On Monday, April 22 2002 at 06:50 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I am probably missing something here (as usual!) but I really don't
 remember doing anything in the first place to create the blue folders.

The Folders turn blue if they contain unread messages. ;o)

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Folder colours

2002-04-22 Thread Carren Stuart

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OK ... probably yet another stupid question no doubt due to yet
another brain freeze on my part :-)

I have one of my accounts set up with multiple folders and sub folders
for all my list mail. All the received folders are blue. I have no
recollection of making them blue - they just are! I have just created
another set of folders/sub folders for yet another list I have
subscribed to, but the received folder in this tree doesn't appear
as blue. Is there anyway I can make it the same colour as the others?

I am probably missing something here (as usual!) but I really don't
remember doing anything in the first place to create the blue folders.
Am I just forgetting what I did?

Many thanks! (using version 1.60c)

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Colours for name of accounts

2000-09-26 Thread Cameleon

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Hi,

Is  there a way to change colours of name of accounts, in the Accounts
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Thanks :)

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Re: Colours for name of accounts

2000-09-26 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:40:04 -0400, Cameleon wrote:

C Is there a way to change colours of name of accounts, in the Accounts
C frame ?

No, not that I know of.

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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-23 Thread Ming-Li

On Friday, September 22, 2000, 4:47:39 PM, Deryk wrote:

 Some interesting notes :)  In general it works with "most" cases
 so that's good enough for me.  The heroic AMEOL wasn't magic
 either (nor was it as good as TB overall, it just had some neat
 ideas).

 I'm more than happy with the results of this filter. Of course if
 anyone comes up with something which works even better (or indeed if
 it's implemented in the next version) I'll be most pleased.

Me, too. I seriously doubt it can be down "flawlessly", however.
There's no way for an email program to know exactly who is following
up on you, except through the In-Reply-To and Reference fields in
the headers, which you've already done. My method works only under
certain condition (uniqueness of name in a given mailing list) of
which the existence is impossible for the program to determine.
Consequently, in a mailing list where your name isn't quite unique,
and there are lots of people using web-based email, I can think of
no way for a email program to know who is following up on you.

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Re[3]: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-22 Thread Deryk Lister

 How would you create a filter to do this?  I know how to create a
 filter to apply a colour group.  What I don't know is how you would
 define which messages would be assigned this colour group.  That is,
 what do you do to get TB to identify the messages that are replies
 to your messages?

Check the rest of the thread for a full explanation, we seem to have
it sussed.

If you only use one email address, it's quite simple.  Create an inbox
filter that looks for "\[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the kludges ie. it's in
the format "\d@your email domain" for every email address you have.
In the actions - tell it to set a certain colour format.  Under
options, tell it to continue processing other filters and to use
regular expressions.

This'll identify messages written by you as well - if you don't want
that, just add another rule that it shouldn't find your full email
address present in the "From" field.

This only works with replies from email clients that use in-reply-to
and/or reference headers (ie the ones that work with "thread by
reference") but most of them do anyway.

In threads, it highlights anything "under" one of your posts, eg. if
someone replies to you, then somebody else replies to *that* reply,
that message will also be marked.  I like it that way - it keeps track
not only of messages directly to you but also messages "caused" by
something you said.  Easiest way to understand is to try it.

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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-22 Thread Ming-Li

On Friday, September 22, 2000, 1:23:08 AM, Deryk wrote:

 How would you create a filter to do this?  I know how to create a
 filter to apply a colour group.  What I don't know is how you would
 define which messages would be assigned this colour group.  That is,
 what do you do to get TB to identify the messages that are replies
 to your messages?

 If you only use one email address, it's quite simple.  Create an
 inbox filter that looks for "\[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the kludges ie.
 it's in the format "\d@your email domain" for every email
 address you have. In the actions - tell it to set a certain colour
 format.  Under options, tell it to continue processing other
 filters and to use regular expressions.

Should work fine in most cases. Unfortunately, not all message ID
are in that format. I've seen message IDs not ending with a number
before the "@".

 This only works with replies from email clients that use
 in-reply-to and/or reference headers (ie the ones that work with
 "thread by reference") but most of them do anyway.

It seems that those web-based emailers (Yahoo mail and the like)
don't.

 In threads, it highlights anything "under" one of your posts, eg. if
 someone replies to you, then somebody else replies to *that* reply,
 that message will also be marked.  I like it that way - it keeps track
 not only of messages directly to you but also messages "caused" by
 something you said.  Easiest way to understand is to try it.

I personally use a different scheme. I don't want all messages
following up on mine to be color coded, only those directly replying
to mine. Additionally, I want messages mentioning my name to be
color coded as well, regardless to whom they are replying. So,
here's my filter:

String   Location   Presence
TBUDL|TBBETA|TBOTSender Yes
["Ming"] Anywhere   Yes

(Other mailing lists in alternative sets). Note the square brackets
and quotation marks are necessary.

I use "Ming" instead of "Ming-Li" because sometimes people call me
"Ming" only. This would nevertheless fail miserably if my sister
(her name is Ming-Yi) signs on to the same mailing lists, or if I'm
in a group of which the topic is about Chinese history, for there
may be many messages about the "Ming Dynasty". . Fortunately nothing
like these has happened so far, and I'll deal with it when it comes.
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Re[2]: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-22 Thread Deryk Lister

Hi Ming-Li,

Some interesting notes :)  In general it works with "most" cases so
that's good enough for me.  The heroic AMEOL wasn't magic either (nor
was it as good as TB overall, it just had some neat ideas).

I'm more than happy with the results of this filter. Of course if
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it's implemented in the next version) I'll be most pleased.

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Re[3]: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-22 Thread Deryk Lister

 (or indeed if it's implemented in the next version)

The idea of flawless tracing of replies to your own comments, that is,
not the patchy-but-helpful filter ;)

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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Ming-Li

On Wednesday, September 20, 2000, 11:25:09 AM, Deryk wrote:

 When you post or make a comment, it notices.  When someone reples
 to a comment that you have posted (ie. they are addressing YOU),
 the message is automatically marked red (priority colour) as are
 any more comments under it.

This can be done with filters, and you can use whatever color you
want.

 If you collapse the thread, the root message is coloured red.

This can't be done in TB.

 That way, you can see at a glance if anyone has replied to one of
 your posts/comments.  Cool huh?

Indeed, nice suggestion.

 It also has a button whereby you can jump to the next new
 "priority" message, so that if you're in a hurry you can reply to
 your own conversations and leave the reading of other people's for
 later on.

By "priority" message you mean those addressed to you, or messages
marked as such? Either way, you can ask TB to show you only such
mail by clicking on the "priority" you want while holding down the
Alt key.

E.g., if you color messages addressed to you "red", you may click on
the group name to show only messages of the color group. (The Color
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Re[2]: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Deryk Lister

Hi Thomas, On Thursday 21/09/2000 at 04:42, you wrote:

 I sent a filter off-list yesterday for a similar question. The TB user
 wanted to copy ML postings that are addressed to him into a special
 folder. As soon as I get home, I will post it here; insterad of "copy
 to folder", you can change it to "user colour group red".

So far, I have it set up so that if anything has my name in the
recipient - it's in the red colour group and high priority.  If
there's a key for "go to next high priority message" then we're
laughing :)

Of course, this won't work for a lot of other mailing lists that hide
the recipient field and replace it with its own address.

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Re[3]: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Deryk Lister

 Of course, this won't work for a lot of other mailing lists that
 hide the recipient field and replace it with its own address.

Almost got it.  I need the filter to be able to search for deryk.co.uk
in the "In-reply-To" or "References" kludge.

How about wildcards?  I was hoping it would be possible to look for
"In-reply-To:*deryk.co.uk" in the kludges.

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Re[3]: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Deryk Lister

Got it!

Rule

Source folder: Inbox
Move to: Inbox

String: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Location: Kludges  Presence: Yes

Alternatives

Each one is a separate 'set' of alternatives.

String: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Location: Kludges  Presence: Yes

String: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Location: Kludges  Presence: Yes

etc all the way up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Actions
~~~
Set message priority to High
Set the message's colour group to RED.

Options
~~~
Continue processing with other filters


Explanation:

Any messages that either I have written or that is a reply to one of
my messages, has "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message ID, references or
in-reply-to headers. So I made a filter that looks for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" etc up to 9 (by using the
"Alternatives" tab). That way, if the headers conform to RFC (ie the
message ID is in the format number@deryk.co.uk) then this filter
will do the job :)  Any messages on a list that aren't written by me
or comments referring to my own message, doesn't have the ID in so is
ignored.  Complicated, but it works :)

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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Deryk,


On  Thursday, September 21, 2000  at  18:29:54 GMT +0100 (which was 10:29 AM
where I live) witnesses say Deryk Lister typed:

 Got it!

 Rule
 
 Source folder: Inbox
 Move to: Inbox

 String: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Location: Kludges  Presence: Yes

 Alternatives
 
 Each one is a separate 'set' of alternatives.

 String: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Location: Kludges  Presence: Yes

 String: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Location: Kludges  Presence: Yes

 etc all the way up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm curious, why do you have the numbers before the @ symbol?

If you have the string looking for @deryk.co.uk, all these messages
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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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On 22 September 2000 at 17:54:21 GMT -0700 (which was 01:54 where I
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of "An idea/question about message colours":

 etc all the way up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

JA I'm curious, why do you have the numbers before the @ symbol?

JA If you have the string looking for @deryk.co.uk, all these messages
JA should be matched.

Without  the  numbers  it  will match his mailbox. With the numbers it
only  matches  message  IDs  which  will  pick out messages which have
"References" to something he has written.

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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Marck,


On  Thursday, September 21, 2000  at  02:11:39 GMT +0100 (which was 6:11 PM
where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed:

JA If you have the string looking for @deryk.co.uk, all these messages
JA should be matched.

 Without  the  numbers  it  will match his mailbox. With the numbers it
 only  matches  message  IDs  which  will  pick out messages which have
 "References" to something he has written.

Ah, of course.  Then may I suggest the extremely simple regexp:

 \[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The \d looks for any single digit.  Saves you typing out 8
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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Januk,

On 22 September 2000 at 18:27:16 GMT -0700 (which was 02:27 where I
live) Januk Aggarwal wrote and made these points on the subject
of "An idea/question about message colours":

 Without  the numbers it will match his mailbox. With the numbers it
 only  matches  message  IDs which will pick out messages which have
 "References" to something he has written.

JA Ah, of course.  Then may I suggest the extremely simple regexp:

JA  \[EMAIL PROTECTED]

JA The \d looks for any single digit.  Saves you typing out 8
JA alternates.

Nice. Even better. Let's see what Deryk makes of it when he wakes up.

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Re[2]: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-21 Thread katsmeow




Hi Ming-Li,

Thursday, September 21, 2000, 9:34:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding An 
idea/question about message colours:


 When you post or make a comment, it notices.  When someone reples
 to a comment that you have posted (ie. they are addressing YOU),
 the message is automatically marked red (priority colour) as are
 any more comments under it.

ML This can be done with filters, and you can use whatever color you
ML want.


How would you create a filter to do this?  I know how to create a
filter to apply a colour group.  What I don't know is how you would
define which messages would be assigned this colour group.  That is,
what do you do to get TB to identify the messages that are replies to
your messages?

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An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-20 Thread Deryk Lister

After mentioning a program called AMEOL a few days ago, I thought of
another thing I found useful in its built-in email :)

When you post or make a comment, it notices.  When someone reples to a
comment that you have posted (ie. they are addressing YOU), the
message is automatically marked red (priority colour) as are any more
comments under it.  If you collapse the thread, the root message is
coloured red.  That way, you can see at a glance if anyone has replied
to one of your posts/comments.  Cool huh? It also has a button whereby
you can jump to the next new "priority" message, so that if you're in
a hurry you can reply to your own conversations and leave the reading
of other people's for later on.

Is this possible in TB as it is, with filters and such?  If not, how
about putting it down as a possible feature to add :)

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Re: An idea/question about message colours

2000-09-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Deryk,

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:25:09 +0100GMT (21/09/2000, 02:25 +0800GMT),
Deryk Lister wrote:

DL comment that you have posted (ie. they are addressing YOU), the
DL message is automatically marked red (priority colour) as are any more
DL comments under it.  If you collapse the thread, the root message is
DL coloured red.  That way, you can see at a glance if anyone has replied
DL to one of your posts/comments.  Cool huh? It also has a button whereby
DL you can jump to the next new "priority" message, so that if you're in
DL a hurry you can reply to your own conversations and leave the reading
DL of other people's for later on.

DL Is this possible in TB as it is, with filters and such?  If not, how
DL about putting it down as a possible feature to add :)

I sent a filter off-list yesterday for a similar question. The TB user
wanted to copy ML postings that are addressed to him into a special
folder. As soon as I get home, I will post it here; insterad of "copy
to folder", you can change it to "user colour group red".

About the comments, there should be something possible with RE's.

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Re[3]: envelope priority colours

2000-01-13 Thread Alex Sanyukovitch

Hello tracer,

Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 6:46:34 PM, you wrote:


Alex So why don't you edit glyphs file?
t Because if I cannot see it properly others cannot either.

Wow... great logic ;-) There is no problem here!


Alex Please, move "-- \n" before your "Best regards,"! ;-))

t Best regards,
 
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No understanding... :-(((


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Re: envelope priority colours

2000-01-13 Thread Steve Lamb

Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:14:17 AM, tracer wrote:
 Ok, maybe you can explain it, whats the use of a different colour
 scheme where you cannot see the colours???
 And why is it called High colour if it hasnt got any (g)

No clue.  It changed with the new icon set some company designed for
RITLABS.  To be fair, I do like most of the new icons.  TB! is one of the
sexier clients I've had the pleasure to use.  Just a few of the icons weren't
exactly thought out before they did it.  The washed out, high-color, priority
envelopes is one such example.  :)

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Re: envelope priority colours

2000-01-13 Thread Steve Lamb

Thursday, January 13, 2000, 10:25:48 AM, tracer wrote:
 Ok, Stefan... a minor cosmetic bug (g)

V, not F.  Of course my rendering of my name in Esperanto is Stefan so I
guess I can live with it.  ;)

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Re: envelope priority colours

2000-01-12 Thread Alex Sanyukovitch

Hello tracer,

Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:58:18 AM, you wrote:

t   The current icon for not read to read mail changes but its virtually
t   impossible to see the colour of prioritised emails after being read.
t   Could the red part om the sideflaps be made darker?

So why don't you edit glyphs file?

t Best regards,

t tracer

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t mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please, move "-- \n" before your "Best regards,"! ;-))


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Signatures: (Was Re: envelope priority colours)

2000-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:50:50  +0200, you wrote:

Please, move "-- \n" before your "Best regards,"! ;-))



What's the benefit?  Do you filter on those,or does the bat treat
them special?
I like to put my Best Regards before the --, but what I consider a
"sig" after the --.
The reason is, I consider my Signature, or closing, to be part of the
letter. When I write a business letter, I may have a footer with our
address or whatever else, but that's not where I put my closing. I
treat email the same way, a sig (by email definations) is more of a
"footer" and shouldn't include the closing.

Comments?

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Re: Signatures: (Was Re: envelope priority colours)

2000-01-12 Thread Alex Sanyukovitch

Hello cid,

Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 5:09:19 PM, you wrote:

cin What's the benefit?  Do you filter on those,or does the bat treat
cin them special?
cin I like to put my Best Regards before the --, but what I consider a
cin "sig" after the --.
cin The reason is, I consider my Signature, or closing, to be part of the
cin letter. When I write a business letter, I may have a footer with our
cin address or whatever else, but that's not where I put my closing. I
cin treat email the same way, a sig (by email definations) is more of a
cin "footer" and shouldn't include the closing.

cin Comments?
Yeah.  The  Bat!  treats  text  after  "--  \n"  as signature and will
automatically  cut  it  off  when you reply to such a message.

Unfortunately,  "NTMail  Web  Mail  Client"  does  not  recognize this
symbols.

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Re[2]: envelope priority colours

2000-01-12 Thread tracer

Hello Alex Sanyukovitch,
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:50:50  +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 9:50:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Alex Sanyukovitch wrote:

Alex Hello tracer,

Alex Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:58:18 AM, you wrote:

t   The current icon for not read to read mail changes but its virtually
t   impossible to see the colour of prioritised emails after being read.
t   Could the red part om the sideflaps be made darker?

Alex So why don't you edit glyphs file?
Because if I cannot see it properly others cannot either.
So it makes more sense at a suitable time to modify the colours.
Even if the other glyph file may have better contrast (I havent tried
it yet) it still means that there are glyphs in there which arent
doing their job...

t Best regards,

t tracer

t Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 
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Alex Please, move "-- \n" before your "Best regards,"! ;-))



Best regards,
 
tracer

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envelope priority colours

2000-01-11 Thread tracer

Wednesday, January 12, 2000

Hello Bat-users,

  The current icon for not read to read mail changes but its virtually
  impossible to see the colour of prioritised emails after being read.
  Could the red part om the sideflaps be made darker?
  After having read an email I still like to see which were important
  just in case I forget to answer one

Best regards,

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Re: envelope priority colours

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi tracer,

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:58:18 +0700GMT (12/01/2000, 13:58 +0800GMT),
tracer wrote:

t   The current icon for not read to read mail changes but its virtually
t   impossible to see the colour of prioritised emails after being read.
t   Could the red part om the sideflaps be made darker?
t   After having read an email I still like to see which were important
t   just in case I forget to answer one

Alternatively, you can also add the Priority column to the message
list (right click on the columns header). It will show the priority
flag. ;-)

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Re[2]: envelope priority colours

2000-01-11 Thread tracer

Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:08:46 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 1:08:46 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

Thomas Hi tracer,

Thomas On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:58:18 +0700GMT (12/01/2000, 13:58 +0800GMT),
Thomas tracer wrote:

t   The current icon for not read to read mail changes but its virtually
t   impossible to see the colour of prioritised emails after being read.
t   Could the red part om the sideflaps be made darker?
t   After having read an email I still like to see which were important
t   just in case I forget to answer one

Thomas Alternatively, you can also add the Priority column to the message
Thomas list (right click on the columns header). It will show the priority
Thomas flag. ;-)
already too many things visible and as the colour is already in the
icon, just making it more visible (16 bit) would help

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Re: envelope priority colours

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb

Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:58:18 PM, tracer wrote:
   Could the red part om the sideflaps be made darker?

Sure, turn off high-color icons.  ;)

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Re[3]: Colours

1999-10-17 Thread Ian Gore

On Friday, October 15, 1999, 4:07:18 PM, Thomas wrote:

DF I also think red wasn't bad. Did you try without hi-color icons?

 They can be toggled? How?

Under Options. I'm convinced the "High-Colour Images" appear when the
option is off, though!



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Re[4]: Colours

1999-10-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Ian,

on Sunday, October 17, 1999, 1:28:43 AM, Ian Gore wrote:

DF I also think red wasn't bad. Did you try without hi-color icons?

 They can be toggled? How?

IG Under Options. I'm convinced the "High-Colour Images" appear when the
IG option is off, though!

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Colours

1999-10-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez


Hi TBUDL,

I complained earlier about the colours; however, eityher I am getting
used to them or this version has better colours than the beta ones.

Anyway, even thoug I'd still prefer stronger colours (matter of taste,
I guess), they are no strain on the eyes any more.

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Re: Colours

1999-10-15 Thread DINH Frederic

Hi Thomas, you wrote:

TF I complained earlier about the colours; however, eityher I am
TF getting used to them or this version has better colours than the
TF beta ones.

I also think red wasn't bad. Did you try without hi-color icons?

TF Anyway, even thoug I'd still prefer stronger colours (matter of taste,
TF I guess), they are no strain on the eyes any more.

If it could be customizable...

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Re[2]: Colours

1999-10-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo DINH,

On Friday, October 15, 1999, 7:05:23 PM, DINH Frederic wrote:

TF I complained earlier about the colours; however, eityher I am
TF getting used to them or this version has better colours than the
TF beta ones.

DF I also think red wasn't bad. Did you try without hi-color icons?

They can be toggled? How?

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