Re: Create Filter- creates an unwanted folder

2020-12-04 Thread MAU
Hello Acheton,

> 
> At this point a new folder will be created, based on TB's
> autopopulation in the Move To box, despite being unticked.

Not here. Again I suggest trying with latest version.

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Create Filter- creates an unwanted folder

2020-12-03 Thread Acheton
Hi all,

The create filter option is creating a new folder in error, to repro follow the 
steps below:

1. RC on an email and select Create filter
2. When the Create Mail Filter window opens, note that the Move to box is 
marked and a folder selected. Untick Move to
3. Assign to a Colour group for instance
4. Hit OK

At this point a new folder will be created, based on TB's autopopulation in the 
Move To box, despite being unticked.


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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-17 Thread Simon
Hello Roelof,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:08:12 +0200 your time, you said:

RO> The latter is why I love filtering on AB groups, though my groups are
RO> collected in group related folders.

Thanks again for your help on this. I eventually plumped for:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and checked 'automatically create if necessary and it is working a treat.
Folders are automatically created when someone from the address book list
group contacts me. Man alive, I've been doing the long way around up until
now. What a time saver!

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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-13 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Monday, September 10, 2007 at 18:00 Roelof Otten wrote:

> Apart from %ABFromPhone you can use any address book macro, like
> %ABFromE-mail, I just used the Phone entry, because I don't use that
> and I wouldn't like folder names with email addresses, but YMMV.

I actually changed the 'Known' filter a bit to do what I want with this.
Everyone I regularly communicate with is in my addressbook. I like to
keep conversations with people in my AB together, so after all the
filters that handle lists, newsletters and whatmore, I have the 'Known'
filter at the bottom that splits out all remaining incoming mails to
folders named after the full name of the person as it is registered in
my AB. Because this list would get too large, I've also made it to
create an intermediate level of folders based on the first letter.

\\HyperCube 
Maurice\Bekenden\%SETPATTREGEXP("(.)")%REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%ABFROMNAME)%SUBPATT(1)\5C%ABFROMNAME

Where 'HyperCube Maurice' is my account name, and 'Bekenden' is the mail
folder under which I want these user-linked folders to be created.

A similar filter exists in my outgoing filters list, which of course
uses %ABTONAME to make outgoing mails to contacts in my AB also go to
their personal folder. The folders are set to have a threaded so I can
easily follow conversations there too, just like with mailing lists.

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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread inboxprotector-tbudl
Hello Roelof,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:08:12 +0200 your time, you said:

RO> When your contacts change their addresses (or use multiple addresses)
RO> you can easily add them to your AB (you'd do that anyway), but you don't
RO> need to adjust your filters. The latter is why I love filtering on AB
RO> groups, though my groups are collected in group related folders.

Yes, indeed, after thinking about it, and reading these last replies from
you and Chrisopher, I do see that AB filtering must be the best way forward
for me. And I actually already have most of my contacts in various AB groups
already, as is my habit, so I do believe I'll be following the good advice
provided here and filtering against the AB groups in future.

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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Simon,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:42:15 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 18:42 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

IT> Really,  I  suppose  it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of
IT> the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and
IT> filtering  against  the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting
IT> up  as  creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting
IT> Office.

There are two major differences.
You'll only need to add them once to your AB group, whereas you'd
need to create every filter twice.
When your contacts change their addresses (or use multiple addresses)
you can easily add them to your AB (you'd do that anyway), but you
don't need to adjust your filters.
The latter is why I love filtering on AB groups, though my groups are
collected in group related folders.

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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread Christopher W .

[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2007-9-10 11:42:15 AM
"Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?" 

> Really, I suppose it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the
> end of the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a
> 'group' in AB and filtering against the AB group will still mean
> just as much effort setting up as creating indiviudal filters for
> each email address under the Sorting Office. It's just that the
> filters list won't be as long if you do it the AB way...and
> instinctively we like to group things.

And, if you need to change the filter later, you only have to change
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread inboxprotector-tbudl
Hello Roelof,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:00:36 +0200 your time, you said:

[...snip...]

RO> Create an AB group 'filter contacts' and add those 45 people to it.

[...snip...]

RO> Now  you've  got  two  choices, either you want all of them moved to the
RO> same  folder  or you want to move each message to a folder matching your
RO> contact.

Yes, it was most definitely the latter option I was after.

RO> The first case is rather straightforward, the second case needs a macro.

Yeah, well, I thought as much; many addresses to one folder would have been
a doddle of course.

RO> I tested it with a single address [...snip...] I just used the Phone
RO> entry, because I don't use that and I wouldn't like folder names with
RO> email addresses, but YMMV.

Nor me. I'll give that a go though, and experiment, thankyou for you help.

RO> Of course you'll still need two filters for this to function properly,
RO> one incoming filter and one outgoing filter, note that you'd need
RO> something like %ABToPhone for the outgoing filter.

Yes, I thought as much. IOW it's still a PITA to set up, but 'needs must' as
the expression goes!

RO> And  before I forget it, you'll need to check 'create if necessary' with
RO> the move to action.

Okay.

RO> Also when you don't use something that you've been using in your address
RO> book  (like %ABFromPhone in stead of %ABFromName) you need to enter that
RO> field for all of the contacts you want to sort this way.

RO> Confused? Me too.

Surprisingly, I'm following everything. However, after setting that lot up I
doubt whether I'll be as chirpy ;-)

Really,  I  suppose  it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of
the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and
filtering  against  the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting
up  as  creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting
Office. It's just that the filters list won't be as long if you do it the AB
way...and instinctively we like to group things.

Anyway, thanks for your help and I'll go away and playfor a while and then
decide which way I prefer :-)

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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Simon,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:02:14 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 17:02 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

IT> So  just to make absolutely clear, so I'm left in no doubt, this means then,
IT> if  I have 45 people belonging to a private group/list/forum whatever, and I
IT> can  only filter against their individual aliases, to be able to filter each
IT> individual's  emails (and my replies to each of them) to 'their own folders'
IT> I _still_ have to create 90 separate filters, 45 incoming and 45 outgoing?

Of course not, but that wasn't what you were asking. You asked about
groups of filters. Or to say it differently: You merely asked whether
you could create two groups of 45 filters each.

What you're asking now is whether you can filter a lot of addresses
each to their own folder with a single filter and that answer is: 'Yes'

Create an AB group 'filter contacts' and add those 45 people to it. It
doesn't matter whether you've got them in different AB group too.
Create a filter that checks whether the sender belongs to 'filter
contacts'
Now you've got two choices, either you want all of them moved to the
same folder or you want to move each message to a folder matching your
contact. The first case is rather straightforward, the second case
needs a macro.
I tested it with a single address (didn't want to mess up my filtering
system) I added a 'phone number' to an address book entry (I used the
rather random letters lcs) and the action for my filter was to move
the message \\Roelof\%ABFromPhone  (With roelof being the account
name)
I re-filtered the folder and all messages from that contact were
filtered to \\Roelof\lcs
Apart from %ABFromPhone you can use any address book macro, like
%ABFromE-mail, I just used the Phone entry, because I don't use that
and I wouldn't like folder names with email addresses, but YMMV.

Of course you'll still need two filters for this to function properly,
one incoming filter and one outgoing filter, note that you'd need
something like %ABToPhone for the outgoing filter.
And before I forget it, you'll need to check 'create if necessary'
with the move to action.
Also when you don't use something that you've been using in your
address book (like %ABFromPhone in stead of  %ABFromName) you need to
enter that field for all of the contacts you want to sort this way.

Confused? Me too.

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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread inboxprotector-tbudl
Hello Roelof,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:35:31 +0200 your time, you said:

IT>> Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone please tell me if it is
IT>> possible to create 'filter groups'?

RO> No.

Hmm, great. I was hoping that wasn't going ot be the case...still.

So  just to make absolutely clear, so I'm left in no doubt, this means then,
if  I have 45 people belonging to a private group/list/forum whatever, and I
can  only filter against their individual aliases, to be able to filter each
individual's  emails (and my replies to each of them) to 'their own folders'
I _still_ have to create 90 separate filters, 45 incoming and 45 outgoing?

[...snip...]

IT>> --
IT>> Slán,

RO> Your cutsign doesn't function as it should, it's missing the trailing
RO> space.

Oops! New QT. Didn't check it, sorry. Fixed.

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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Simon,

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:28:29 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 15:28 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

IT>  Please  forgive  my  ignorance,  but  could someone please tell me if it is
IT>  possible to create 'filter groups'?

No.

IT>  If I create a main filter in the Sorting Office and call it 'Lists', do I
IT>  need to add any specific conditions for sub filters below it to be
IT>  processed? I noticed that there after adding a condtion to the filter you
IT>  can select 'any message, which I imagined allowed for this, but I tried
IT>  that and sub filters below the main 'Lists' filter still aren't processed
IT>  (actions for all subfolders are simply filtering to folders).

That's exactly as it's supposed to be. A filter processes the messages
that match its condition and filters below that filter won't be
checked anymore, subfilters will be processed though.

However, when you set the option 'continue processing with other
filters' for the parent filter, then the messages will be processed by
the other filters too. (Until they trigger the next filter.)
But I don't know what the consequences are for the messages that have
been processed by the subfilters.


IT> --
IT> Slán,

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Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?

2007-09-10 Thread inboxprotector-tbudl
Hello TBUDL:

 Please  forgive  my  ignorance,  but  could someone please tell me if it is
 possible to create 'filter groups'?

 I can't find a definitive answer to this question (and I have looked) so
 please forgive me if this question has been asked to death and answered
 over and over: 

 If I create a main filter in the Sorting Office and call it 'Lists', do I
 need to add any specific conditions for sub filters below it to be
 processed? I noticed that there after adding a condtion to the filter you
 can select 'any message, which I imagined allowed for this, but I tried
 that and sub filters below the main 'Lists' filter still aren't processed
 (actions for all subfolders are simply filtering to folders).

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Re: Create filter by address group?

2004-12-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello Alexander,

Sunday, December 19, 2004, 10:54:11 AM, you wrote:

ASK> Thats almost too easy... ;-)

ASK> In other words, yes. Create a filter with condition "address book"
ASK> (or
ASK> address book group) "contains sender".


I cant believe I missed is. I need to get my eyes checked :)
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Re: Create filter by address group?

2004-12-19 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Darrin Rich & everyone else,

on 19-Dez-2004 at 19:48 you (Darrin Rich) wrote:

> Im looking to create a filter where all people from a particular address
> group I have will go into a specific folder. Is this possible?

Thats almost too easy... ;-)

In other words, yes. Create a filter with condition "address book" (or
address book group) "contains sender".

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Create filter by address group?

2004-12-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello TBUDL,

  Im looking to create a filter where all people from a particular
  address group I have will go into a specific folder. Is this
  possible?

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Re: Create filter

2004-03-28 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 14:41:48 +0200 Jean Site wrote:

>> Just tested it here, to set a filter like you did (ctrl-shift-F),
>> leave the defaults and set the same filter again. A new folder will be
>> created with the From-name on the first call, but the "Create Mail
>> Filter" fields default to the same strings on the second call.

> I don't understand this explanation.
> Now, I'm trying to explain what could have shown the attachments
> There are, according to the languages, two boxes

Please refer to the boxes in the english name only.

> 'Move to folder' becomes 'Déplacer vers le dossier'
> At the beginning, I see
> Déplacer vers le dossier : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> First step
> Appliquer au(x) : Courrier entrant (Incoming mail)
> Déplacer vers le dossier : Bernard (Move to folder)
> It is the good filter. Messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to
> Bernard's folder

> Second step
> I close the box

> Third step
> I open again 'Create mail filter'

This will actually create a new filter, not open the one that you
created just before.

Therefor I asked what's in your Sorting Office (ctrl-shift-S). Every
time you press ctrl-shift-F (Create New Filter) this gets appended to
the end of the filter list.

> What a pity in 'Déplacer vers le dossier' there isn't Bernard but
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not what I want

It's a new filter.

> Put Bernard in place of [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work!
> The filter isn't created

Where did you look for that?

Probably the filter does not work, because there is another filter
above in the Sorting Office. The filters are being processed from top
to bottom.


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Re[2]: Create filter

2004-03-28 Thread Jean Site
Hello dAniel,

I apologize,
I have answered sooner with two attachments explaining my difficulties
The message was rejected.

Thanks for help,

I didn't solved my problem

I use french version of The Bat!

I tried that (as you have suggested)

> Take a look at the sorting office, where all your filters are listed
> and can be managed. This is ctrl-shift-s or Account--Sorting-Office.
> New filters will be put to the very bottom of the list and I guess you
> have some filter above that already catches the mail from Bernard.
> In the accountlog (ctrl-shift-L) you can see what filter moved a
> message.

> What do you mean? the "Move to folder" field now defaults to the email
> address, or the filter name?

'Move to folder' stands for 'Déplacer vers le dossier'


> Just tested it here, to set a filter like you did (ctrl-shift-F),
> leave the defaults and set the same filter again. A new folder will be
> created with the From-name on the first call, but the "Create Mail
> Filter" fields default to the same strings on the second call.

I don't understand this explanation.

Now, I'm trying to explain what could have shown the attachments

There are, according to the languages, two boxes

The  english box is 'Create mail filter'
The french is 'Création d'une règle de tri'

'Use to' becomes 'Appliquer au(x)
'Move to folder' becomes 'Déplacer vers le dossier' 

What I did:

At the beginning, I see
Déplacer vers le dossier : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

First step
Appliquer au(x) : Courrier entrant (Incoming mail)
Déplacer vers le dossier : Bernard (Move to folder)
It is the good filter. Messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to Bernard's folder  
  

Second step
I close the box

Third step
I open again 'Create mail filter'
What a pity in 'Déplacer vers le dossier' there isn't Bernard but [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
It's not what I want

Put Bernard in place of [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work!


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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread Allie Martin
Daniel Hahler, [DH] wrote:

DH> It is ctrl-shift when moving with keyboard here. Did you mix it up?

Yeah. A typo on my part. Thanks for indicating that. :)

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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello dAniel!

On Thursday, March 25, 2004, 3:55 PM, you wrote:

>> I can now make a filter, move the folder it creates to the top, move
>> the saved messages out of my sister's old folder to the new one,
>> delete that empty folder, and be more organized that way, freed from
>> a few daily mouse clicks. :)

dh> And filtering now works?

Yes. I'm so pleased.

dh> You can even save the moving of the folder by clicking the folder
dh> button on the "create new filter" dialog and create your desired
dh> filter just where you want it from the upcoming "Select a Folder"
dh> dialog.
dh> And instead of clicking "Ok" when back at the "Create new Filter"
dh> dialog you probably want to click "Edit" instead, to move the new
dh> filter up in the filter hierarchy, because they are checked from top
dh> to bottom. If a filter does not do what you want it's mostly that it
dh> does not get checked for at all or the "Move to" folder has been reset
dh> to "Inbox" (eg you deleted the original target folder).

Thank you so much for this extra tutoring. You are right--I deleted
the target folder. But that was because I wanted the messages from
this person in the Inbox, as the target folder was far enough down on
the tree that I had to scroll to it. Before I made the filter, I had
made a folder at the top of the tree, below the Inbox, for this
person, as soon as I set up the new account. And I didn't know how to
get the target folder to the top--which Allie has showed me how to do.

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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 11:19:24 -0600 Mary Bull wrote:

> I can now make a filter, move the folder it creates to the top, move
> the saved messages out of my sister's old folder to the new one,
> delete that empty folder, and be more organized that way, freed from
> a few daily mouse clicks. :)

And filtering now works?

You can even save the moving of the folder by clicking the folder
button on the "create new filter" dialog and create your desired
filter just where you want it from the upcoming "Select a Folder"
dialog.
And instead of clicking "Ok" when back at the "Create new Filter"
dialog you probably want to click "Edit" instead, to move the new
filter up in the filter hierarchy, because they are checked from top
to bottom. If a filter does not do what you want it's mostly that it
does not get checked for at all or the "Move to" folder has been reset
to "Inbox" (eg you deleted the original target folder).


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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 12:00:23 -0500 Allie Martin wrote:

> You can either hold down the alt key while dragging and dropping
> the folder to the desired location, or you can hold down the shift and
> alt keys while using the down and up arrows to move the folders up or
> down the tree.

It is ctrl-shift when moving with keyboard here. Did you mix it up?


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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie!

On Thursday, March 25, 2004, 11:00 AM, you wrote:

MB>> Is there a way to put the folders in an account in the order one
MB>> prefers?

AM> Yes. You can either hold down the alt key while dragging and dropping
AM> the folder to the desired location, or you can hold down the shift and
AM> alt keys while using the down and up arrows to move the folders up or
AM> down the tree. The left and right arrow keys will make the folder a
AM> subfolder of another and undo it.

Excellent. Thanks for the help. I can now make a filter, move the
folder it creates to the top, move the saved messages out of my
sister's old folder to the new one, delete that empty folder, and be
more organized that way, freed from a few daily mouse clicks. :)

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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread Allie Martin
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote:

MB> Is there a way to put the folders in an account in the order one
MB> prefers?

Yes. You can either hold down the alt key while dragging and dropping
the folder to the desired location, or you can hold down the shift and
alt keys while using the down and up arrows to move the folders up or
down the tree. The left and right arrow keys will make the folder a
subfolder of another and undo it.

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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello dAniel!

On Thursday, March 25, 2004, 7:59 AM, you wrote, in part:

dh> ... A new folder will be created with the From-name on the first
dh> call, but the "Create Mail Filter" fields default to the same
dh> strings on the second call.

Is there a way to put the folders in an account in the order one
prefers? In setting up this latest account, I made a folder for my
sister. Then I created a filter and it put the folder (same name,
actually, giving me two identical folders) at the bottom of my Inbox
set of folders (the children of Inbox, Inbox as parent).

So I deleted the bottom folder, but the filter doesn't work. So I'm
manually moving my sister's messages out of Inbox, because I want her
folder at the top. But I miss the filtering!

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Re: Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello bats,

on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 09:49:17 +0100 Jean Site wrote:

> The filter don't work with new messages.



Take a look at the sorting office, where all your filters are listed
and can be managed. This is ctrl-shift-s or Account--Sorting-Office.

New filters will be put to the very bottom of the list and I guess you
have some filter above that already catches the mail from Bernard.

In the accountlog (ctrl-shift-L) you can see what filter moved a
message.

> I open again the box Create mail filter:
> In move filter i don't find Bernard but the recipient's name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What do you mean? the "Move to folder" field now defaults to the email
address, or the filter name?
Just tested it here, to set a filter like you did (ctrl-shift-F),
leave the defaults and set the same filter again. A new folder will be
created with the From-name on the first call, but the "Create Mail
Filter" fields default to the same strings on the second call.


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Create filter

2004-03-25 Thread Jean Site
Hi ,

Create filter

I wish to send messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to folder's name [Bernard], that is to say create a filter.

With the previous version of The Bat I succeeded.

Now, I select one message.

The help says: go to: Messages/Specials//create filter.
In the box Create mail filter, I write 'Bernard' in Move to folder

I close the box.

The filter don't work with new messages.
I open again the box Create mail filter:
In move filter i don't find Bernard but the recipient's name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't understand.
What's wrong?
What do I do?
  

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