Re[2]: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-13 Thread Bo Dirigo
Hello Robin,

Thursday, November 13, 2003, 1:40:13 AM, you wrote:

RA And I bet not only that, but also with the message list view turned off, so
RA that only the single message, and not the folder contents, are visible.

RA Bo - go to the View menu item and make sure Message List is selected. Unless
RA you do, the rest of Melissa's instructions won't make a lot of sense because
RA you will be working blind.

Who is that Masked Man? LOL! Thanks Robin. With that little bit of
information I am getting closer to what it is I would like to do ...
not exactly ... but very close ... so close ... I can live with this
approach!

Thanks to all for their suggestions as collectively you've helped me
greatly.  I do like The Bat! ... just gotta figure it out ... and with
all your help, there's hope for me!  ;))

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I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread Bo Dirigo
Howdie TBL'ers,

Thus far, I have been unsuccessful in grouping messages and reading
them contiguously/continuously, i.e., one right after another.  While
I can group them, i.e., messages with the same Subject, it does not
appear that I can read the first message in the group, then the next,
then the next ... instead after having read the first message, The
Bat! will jump to either another group of messages or a single
message that happens to be in between the groups of various messages.

I've used the path View  View threads by  Subject to group the
messages.  Is(are) there some other option(s) I should be setting to
accomplish what I want to do?

Is there also a way to do this when one uses the Search Tool on, e.g.,
Subject?  I've used the Search Tool and the end result was simply a
list of messages with the designated Subject argument ... good, so
far, but when I opened the first message to read it, I again simply
wanted to read the next message in the search list.  It didn't
happen.

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

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Re: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread Vasiliy Efimenko
Hello Bo,

On 12 November 2003, at 12:23 -0500 you wrote:

BD I've used the path View  View threads by  Subject to group the
BD messages.  Is(are) there some other option(s) I should be setting to
BD accomplish what I want to do?

For rather results you should set View - View threads by - References.

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Re[3]: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello ,
Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 1:45:37 PM, you wrote:


BD Oh well, it's not the end of the world, but would be nice if I could
BD do that.

 If you are moving by using the arrow keys, then the down arrow moves
to the nest thread, but the right arrow moves to the next message in
the thread. Actually you have to use a combination of the down arrow
key and the right arrow key to continue reading the thread depending
on whether the next message is on the same level or one level down.


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Re: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Bo,

On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 11:45:37 AM PST, you wrote:

 Oh well, it's not the end of the world, but would be nice if I could
 do that.

TB! usually has several ways to do one thing (hmmm...how many ways can
TB! change a lightbulb? :-)).  Anyway...

If you want to read each thread message by message, whether you've
already read some of the message before or not, here's *one* way...

First, you want to be sure the thread you want to read is completely
expanded:

Keyboard shortcut (without slashes): Shift/Ctrl/+

Then, just use the down arrow key to go from top to bottom, and the up
arrow key to move up through the messages.

You can collapse a single thread with: Shift/Ctrl/-

Or...

You can expand *all* threads in a folder with Ctrl/* (the * on the
number pad), then you can go up and down through every message in the
folder with the up/down arrow keys.

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Re[4]: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread Bo Dirigo

Hello Stuart and Melissa,

Thank you both for your suggestions.  I used both the Shift-Cntrl +/-
to expand and contract grouped messages (grouped using Vasily's
suggestion of View  View thread by  References).

Both commands worked quite well.

However, I was unsuccessful in being able to read one message right
after another. Yes, the up, down, right arrow keys worked in the sense
of moving from one message to another IN THE GROUPED LIST itself, but,
after opening the first message in the list and after having read it,
to simply move to the next message (with it spontaneously opening to
be read) is/was a non-event/a no-go. Perhaps I am failing to describe
my problem adequately, so let's say you open a message in your inbox,
then you select the Next icon option. It has been my experience that
the next message will automatically open and present itself to be
read. The Subject field of these messages aren't necessarily even
related ... simply messages received in a certain order.

What I would like to do is simply select a message (either grouped per
se via the Search Tool or the View by thread option) and be able to do
the same thing ... having no luck thus far, so I have to assume PEBCAK
(Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard) since it seems like you
folks don't have this problem.

Thanks Melissa for the detailed suggestions ... and you are certainly
correct when you state there are more than one way to achieve an
objective.  BYW, I agree with your suggestion re: a toggle ON/OFF
switch for reading emails ON/OFF line.  This functionality has nothing
to do with whether one has broadband or dial-up.

I'll keep trying on my end.  Maybe I'm close and am just missing
something ... but just don't know it.  Yeah, right. LOL.

Take care y'all.

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Re: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Bo,

On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 9:00:51 PM PST, you wrote:

 Perhaps I am failing to describe my problem adequately, so let's say
 you open a message in your inbox, then you select the Next icon
 option. It has been my experience that the next message will
 automatically open and present itself to be read. The Subject field
 of these messages aren't necessarily even related ... simply
 messages received in a certain order.

I guess you're reading in Folder View.  Okay...

If you're not using any threading options, the message list will be in
simple chronological order (ascending or descending order, by either
time created or time received...all depending on your preference).

If you're reading like that, the Next icon will just go down the
list one by one.

If you're using a threaded view (threading by references is usually
the preferred way to thread), the Next icon will not open threads,
but jump to the next thread immediately after the last opened message
in the previous thread.

If you want to read threads one by one, message by message, the
easiest way is this:

Down arrow to go to the next message if it's on the same level (not a
direct reply to the current message).

Right arrow to go to the reply to the current message.

Then, if there are no more nestled replies from where you're at, yet
there are more messages in the thread below, the down arrow will again
take you to the next message.

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Re: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread William Moore
Hello Melissa

Thank you for your email dated Thursday, November 13, 2003, 2:01:36 AM,
in which you wrote:

MR hmmm...how many ways can TB! change a lightbulb?

It doesn't need to - it outshines all other MUAs.

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Re: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...

2003-11-12 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu 13 November 2003, 16:19:39 +1000, Melissa Reese wrote:
 Hi Bo,
 Perhaps I am failing to describe my problem adequately, so let's say
 you open a message in your inbox, then you select the Next icon
 option. It has been my experience that the next message will
 automatically open and present itself to be read. The Subject field
 of these messages aren't necessarily even related ... simply
 messages received in a certain order.
 
 I guess you're reading in Folder View.  Okay...

And I bet not only that, but also with the message list view turned off, so
that only the single message, and not the folder contents, are visible.

Bo - go to the View menu item and make sure Message List is selected. Unless
you do, the rest of Melissa's instructions won't make a lot of sense because
you will be working blind.

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