Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-02 Thread ken green
ken green wrote:
 I may have fixed the problem.


Another problem...

No my *other* IMAP account has a message stuck in the Sent folder.
This is a regular plain text message, no attachments.

According to the log, the message appeared to go through.

I decided to try Folder Maintenance.  When FM go to the Sent folder of
the account in question, it just sat there.  Progress indicator said
it was compressing this Sent folder, but it hung there for a good 7-10
minutes before I killed FM.

Geesh!  This is a *released* version fer cryin' out loud  I'm
beginning to feel like I'm back in beta testing...

Any recommendations for messages stuck in Sent?  I thought I remember
this being an issue awhile back.

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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-02 Thread ken green
ken green wrote:
 Any recommendations for messages stuck in Sent?  I thought I remember
 this being an issue awhile back.


Outbox is local, Sent is server-side

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IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread ken green
I tried to clean up some IMAP folders: moved messages to a local
folder, then attempted to delete the IMAP folders

Boy, was that a mistake.

My main IMAP account (THIS IS MY BUSINESS E-MAIL) is now somehow
stuck - I am NOT receiving messages and the message count will not
budge from 39 35 in the Total column.

My Inbox shows 1 * in the Unread column - and that message does not
show up.  I cannot get to it through The Bat.

I have tried shutting down TB multiple times and rebooting my computer
twice.  I have run Folder Maintenance (with all options checked) twice
as well.

Any ideas?

I really thought that using a *RELEASE* version of The Bat would mean
only minor annoyances.  Guess I was wrong.

Does anyone have any ideas?  This is crazy.  I have purposely tried
not to tax TB with anything fancy RE: IMAP (no filtering, etc.)

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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi ken,

kg I tried to clean up some IMAP folders: moved

kg Boy, was that a mistake.

I've been there...

kg My main IMAP account (THIS IS MY BUSINESS
kg E-MAIL) is now somehow stuck - I am NOT
kg receiving messages and the message count will
kg not budge from 39  in the Total column.

This has happened to me several times. Its an interesting bug, because the unread 
total remains up to date, but it refuses to retrieve those messages. It knows they are 
there...

kg My Inbox shows 1  in the Unread column -
kg and that message does not show up.  I cannot
kg get to it through The Bat.

My unread total kept climbing, and I had to use webmail to read them. Finally, I 
created a new account, and deleted the old. This was the only way I could get back up 
and running. I don't even think about filtering incoming mail, because doing so causes 
this problem for sure. It got to the point where I was creating a new account about 
once a day. Ridiculous. 

kg Does anyone have any ideas?  This is crazy.  I
kg have purposely tried not to tax TB with
kg anything fancy RE: IMAP (no filtering, etc.)

The latest beta seems to be (only just a bit) more stable. Although, I stopped using 
filters about the same time I installed that, so maybe not. I don't know. 

They have GOT to get IMAP going soon. I sure wish there were more people complaining 
about it. I can only conclude either 1) not many on this list use IMAP, and therefor 
aren't clamoring for improvements, or 2) others haven't experienced these problems to 
the same extent. I would love to know which...

Anyway, good luck. 
-- 
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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread ken green
ken green wrote:
 My main IMAP account (THIS IS MY BUSINESS E-MAIL) is now somehow
 stuck - I am NOT receiving messages and the message count will not
 budge from 39 35 in the Total column.

 My Inbox shows 1 * in the Unread column - and that message does not
 show up.  I cannot get to it through The Bat.


Just an update

For the account in question, Connection Center remains stuck on:

Status: Retrieving status of mailbox INBOX

My other IMAP account is connecting normally.  (Status: on-line)

I aborted the process and tried Folder Maintenance again.  I tried
just the Inbox and nothing happened.  I tried the account (all
folders) and FM ran through, listing IMAP folder compressed after
each folder.  Yet I have two folder with n readings

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Re[2]: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi Peter,

PO Quite some users are / have been 'complaining'
PO about IMAP items. As you'r a beta user, I
PO guess you'r aware of this.

Yes, but how can anyone actually use it without such basic functionality as filtering? 
I spend all day manually dragging TBUDL messages to my TBUDL folder. 

PO FWIW, some IMAP items related to V2.12b6 which
PO was made public some hours ago:

Thanks. Hopeful about the new beta, I added a TBUDL filter, left your message in my 
inbox, and tried manual filtering. Same problem. Remove duplicates still doesn't work 
either (as always, duplicate messages are created in the inbox of the messages that 
were to be filtered). I have yet to know if the message base has gone wrong, as is 
usual. big, frustrated exhale.

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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread ken green
ken green wrote:
 I aborted the process and tried Folder Maintenance again.  I tried
 just the Inbox and nothing happened.  I tried the account (all
 folders) and FM ran through, listing IMAP folder compressed after
 each folder.  Yet I have two folder with n readings


Another update...

I may have fixed the problem.  Looks like during my IMAP folder
cleaning, some of the folders I deleted only got half-deleted.

That is, they were removed at the server level but stayed locally in
the display, and when TB tried to connect and synch these non-existent
folders well, it just didn't work.

I killed the connection again, then went to the folders in question
and UNSUBSCRIBED.  Shut down TB and restarted and all seems fine now.

Apparently deleting a folder does not kill the subscription to it, so
it may be necessary to unsubscribe before deleting a folder.

This is all a tad ironic because I specifically used TB's manage IMAP
folders to delete because I *didn't* want to cause problems doing
something completely insane like deleting folders at the server level.
(I figured that would cause the problem I was getting: TB trying to
synch non-existent folders).

So.. for now at least... I'm back to tip-toeing around IMAP again.

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Re[3]: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi List,

 I have yet to know if the message base 
 has gone wrong, as is usual. .

Confirmed. The previous message I sent could not be moved to the sent mail folder, 
because of some kind of corruption to the message base. New mail was no longer 
retrieved, although the unread mail number in the folder view remained accurate. No 
message bodies were viewable. However, as usual, creating a new account fixed the 
problem, indicating that the corruption was local (thankfully). 

-- 
Chris
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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread ken green
Christopher Brown wrote:
 They have GOT to get IMAP going soon. I sure wish there were more
 people complaining about it. I can only conclude either 1)
 not many on this list use IMAP, and therefor aren't clamoring for
 improvements, or 2) others haven't experienced these problems
 to the same extent. I would love to know which...


How long have you been on this list? :)

IMAP complaints have been ongoing (steady) for some time now.

The Bat is a truly wonderful POP mail client with *LOTS* of potential
to be *THE COMPLETE MAIL CLIENT* when IMAP gets straightened out.

That's been said many times before, though...

Of course, TB continues to lead the industry in smiley support so all
is not lost.

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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
ken green wrote:
Of course, TB continues to lead the industry in smiley support so all
is not lost.
That'll be on the top of my list for selecting a mail reader...
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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Peter Ouwehand wrote:
Please  more  attention  and feedback - new beta cycle is dedicated to
bug-fixing. IMAP users your opinions have high priority :)
What about attention and feedback from developers? I don't even know who 
they are. Maybe 9val? At least he replies to some of the messages...

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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Peter Ouwehand wrote:
I don't 'know' them either. Except from TB lists or BugTracker.
So that's good then.
Do you 'know' your FreeBSD 4.10 STABLE developers?
They frequent the lists often and some have personal sites.
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Re: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!

2004-07-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ken!

On Thursday, July 01, 2004, 6:58 PM, you wrote:

kg Of course, TB continues to lead the industry in smiley support so
kg all is not lost.

Bite your tongue! :)  Some of us formerly faithful Plain-Text
adherents are having a great time on TBOT with the smileys.

And as my mother, who would have been 100 years old in 2005 if she
could have just hung on about a decade longer, often said,

This too shall pass.

Seriously, Ken, from lurking on TBBETA, I gather that it does look as
if they are coming closer to getting a workable IMAP in The Bat! for
you and Allie and all the others who need it.

Keep the faith. :)

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Mary
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