Re: Periodical checking stops working
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 11:34:21 PM, you wrote: JS I should have thought about that before I 'solved' the problem by JS reinstallation. Next time it comes around I'll try to remember to JS save that part of the registry :) I've now exported it while it works JS ok. Hi Johnny, That should be good enough. I take it from that, that a reinstall solved the problem? I also saw report that even a reinstall didn't solve it. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In wildness is the preservation of the world. - Henry David Thoreau, Walking(1862) - Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Blarp, B There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've B seen (including mine). Ok, this may be of interest to you and others: Earlier today I uninstalled The Bat, but I said no to the question of whether to remove the message base or not. After reinstalling the program I restored a backup of all accounts that I'd just done. This didn't make the periodical checking work. Just now I uninstalled the program and answered yes to all questions of removal - that is both from the registry and the mail directory. After this I made sure no files were left in the mail directory and the program directory. Then I installed the program again and restored my backup. Now the periodical checking works. Would be good if somebody with the same problem could confirm if this procedure works there too. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Marck, JS :) Perhaps I'll submit a bug report then. MDP Not yet. MDP Blarp doesn't mention the thing that causes this 9/10 times. MDP See message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for more MDP information (The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks) if you are a ZA user. Thanks. As I mentioned in another post I managed to overcome the problem by uninstalling all parts of the program including the message base. However, I have to mention that I've used TB! since version 1.46 as far as I remember. The problem with the (lack of) periodical checking have periodically surfaced using firewalls Atguard, Zone Alarm, Tiny Personal Firewall as well as no firewall at all. Unfortunately I have kept no record of whether this was the case with all versions of TB! or not. I can say I am quite familiar with the problem. It was usually solved either on the next reinstallation of the operating system or of the program. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Periodical checking stops working
Hello all, Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to do it manually. Has anybody come across a similar phaenomenon ? I can't connect it to any particular change that I may have made to the system such as an installation of another program, but it may be connected of course. I've tried removing and reinstalling The bat which usually helped, but not today, so suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance Johnny Skaaning Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hi Johnny, JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. JS I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to JS do it manually. It happened to me and reinstall didn't cure it. Same platform. I have no idea what causes it or how to fix it. And so far, no one else on this list does either. You might try submitting a bug report. Maybe an extra voice will help. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Dear Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 7:59:51 PM you wrote: JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. It is a pity that you don't mention the version you are using in your template. There once was a version that had this problem, but it is some times ago. Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with that version. We use The Bat! for more than 20 accounts each, and for our ... don't know... 15? mailinglists, all on Windows 2000, and there is no problems with the periodical checking (each minute). -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... I know what you're thinking. ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Britt, On August 21, 2002, at 11:12 AM you [BM] wrote (at least in part): BM It is a pity that you don't mention the version you are using in BM your template. I found it very handy to show the mailer of all messages. I found this is possible by selecting View, Message Header, Mailer. Based on that information, he is using The Bat! (v1.61) Personal. -- Best regards, John Thomas Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hi Blarp, Britt Malka and John Thomas, B It happened to me and reinstall didn't cure it. Same platform. I have B no idea what causes it or how to fix it. And so far, no one else on B this list does either. You might try submitting a bug report. Maybe an B extra voice will help. That is really curious. But thanks for letting me know that you have the same problem. Saves me a lot of time looking elsewhere :) Perhaps I'll submit a bug report then. BM It is a pity that you don't mention the version you are using in your BM template. Yes, I know I should have while writing in this forum. I usually switch on RFC-822 headers in the view menu to see which mailer is used. My apologies. But then John Thomas said - JT I found it very handy to show the mailer of all messages. I found JT this is possible by selecting View, Message Header, Mailer. Based on JT that information, he is using The Bat! (v1.61) Personal. Which is certainly a more elegant way of checking which mailer is used than switching on the full RFC-822 header :) Anyway, I've gotten used to the RFC-822's recently because spam started arriving including what looked like personally targeted viruses to me. Thanks to you all for such a prompt response! -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hi Britt, BM Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with BM that version. There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've seen (including mine). -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hi Johnny, JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. JS I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to JS do it manually. Are you running ZoneAlarm (or some other firewall software) on your computer? That might be to blame in this situation. If so, you're probably running into a nice little conflict that I posted about a few days ago and gave a couple of solutions for getting around the problem. Cheers, Ross. -- Ross West mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 8:38:10 PM, you wrote: B Hi Britt, BM Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with BM that version. B There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've B seen (including mine). Hi Blarp, You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now. Care to share how? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When you do a good deed, get a receipt, in case heaven is like the IRS. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've seen (including mine). I'm now experiencing this problem. No firewall installed. XP Pro. 1.60q. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Good evening Johnny, It was foretold that on 21-8-2002 20:59:51 GMT+0300 (which was 19:59:51 where I live) Johnny Skaaning spread these wise comments: snipped a bit JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. Same problem here on the same platform and using TB! 1.61 Personal. Not running Zone Alarm and i've been using TB! since version 1.5XX. It's the first time it TB! did this. I posted it on the list but there seems to be no cure. Maybe a downgrade to TB!1.60? -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.61 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 and using the best browser: Opera. Middle age is when your age starts to show around your middle. - Bob Hope. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hi Ross, RW If so, you're probably running into a nice little conflict that I RW posted about a few days ago and gave a couple of solutions for getting RW around the problem. I wish this were the case. I've tried disabling my firewall (Tiny Personal, not ZA) and it still stops periodical checking. It WILL check on startup but nothing after that. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hi Gerard, G You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now. No I haven't. I just put up with it and manually click. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Johnny, @21-Aug-2002, 21:34 +0300 (19:34 UK time) Johnny Skaaning [JS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: B ... no idea what causes it or how to fix it. And so far, no one B else on this list does either. You might try submitting a bug B report. Maybe an extra voice will help. JS That is really curious. But thanks for letting me know that you JS have the same problem. Saves me a lot of time looking elsewhere JS :) Perhaps I'll submit a bug report then. Not yet. Blarp doesn't mention the thing that causes this 9/10 times. See message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information (The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks) if you are a ZA user. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPWPssTnkJKuSnc2gEQJYDwCg6oaPhTUzmlGe2kVoOoG1ii/Ztf4Ani0N 3F975ud+74mKlx3koQB0QOio =2Ppp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 9:25:09 PM, you wrote: B Hi Gerard, G You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now. B No I haven't. I just put up with it and manually click. I have a very similar setup for 6 months now and even use ZA and no problems. Have a look at: Control panel | administrative tools| services. Check if task scheduler is started/automatic Same for DHCP client / DNS client. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hi Gerard, G Have a look at: Control panel | administrative tools| services. G Check if task scheduler is started/automatic G Same for DHCP client / DNS client. All good so that's not it. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Blarp, B I wish this were the case. I've tried disabling my firewall (Tiny B Personal, not ZA) and it still stops periodical checking. It WILL B check on startup but nothing after that. Ok, this may be of interest to you and others: Earlier today I uninstalled The Bat, but I said no to the question of whether to remove the message base or not. After reinstalling the program I restored a backup of all accounts that I'd just done. This didn't make the periodical checking work. Just now I uninstalled the program and answered yes to all questions of removal - that is both from the registry and the mail directory. After this I made sure no files were left in the mail directory and the program directory. Then I installed the program again and restored my backup. Now the periodical checking works. Would be good if somebody with the same problem could confirm if this procedure works there too. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:15:37 PM, you typed: Would be good if somebody with the same problem could confirm if this procedure works there too. What would be better is if someone could see how long this will actually work for. Not interested in reinstalling this client every few weeks or months in order for it to work properly. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Joe, JU What would be better is if someone could see how long this will JU actually work for. Not interested in reinstalling this client every JU few weeks or months in order for it to work properly. A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid backup/restore function) but of course it should be studied and dealt with. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 10:29:25 PM, you wrote: JS A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options JS one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user JS reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid JS backup/restore function) but of course it should be studied and dealt with. Johnny, You also might want to copy all the register setting to a file so you can check for differences and do a restore if it happens again. This could possibly help find the cause if it is in TB! registry. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet. - Woody Allen Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:29:25 PM, you typed: A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid backup/restore function) but of course it should be studied and dealt with. Yeah, splendid is right. As a former Outlook user I was MOST IMPRESSED with the backup and restore functions of The Bat!. Outstanding. Worked flawlessly. Nearly knocked me off my chair when I seen it in action. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Periodical checking stops working
Dear Blarp, Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 8:38:10 PM you wrote: B There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've B seen (including mine). Okay... It is the first time I heard about it. None of our customers seem to have the problem. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Films don't make psychos, they just make them more creative. ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Periodical checking stops working
Dear Joe, Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 9:02:48 PM you wrote: There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've seen (including mine). JU I'm now experiencing this problem. JU No firewall installed. JU XP Pro. JU 1.60q. Yeah, but you are cheating ;-) You use 1.60. I was talking about 1.61. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... And tears of selfpity floaded my innocent eyes. ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Gerard, G You also might want to copy all the register setting to a file so you G can check for differences and do a restore if it happens again. G This could possibly help find the cause if it is in TB! registry. I should have thought about that before I 'solved' the problem by reinstallation. Next time it comes around I'll try to remember to save that part of the registry :) I've now exported it while it works ok. -- Regards Johnny Skaaning The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
Hello Johnny, On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, at 23:15:37 GMT +0300 (8/21/02, 3:15 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JS Just now I uninstalled the program and answered yes to all questions JS of removal - that is both from the registry and the mail directory. JS After this I made sure no files were left in the mail directory and JS the program directory. Then I installed the program again and restored JS my backup. Now the periodical checking works. Do you use Zone Alarm for your firewall? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 98 PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xB1FE63FABody=Please20send20keys Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Periodical checking stops working
I found a way to fix it. Change my client. 8) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
