Norton AntiVirus 2003: Using Anti-Virus Plug-Ins
Hello, everyone. I am evaluating The Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Professional (SP 1), with Norton SystemWorks Professional 2003, which includes Norton AntiVirus (NAV) 2003. Following the instructions in the on-line help, I went to the 'Options|Preferences' menu and, in the 'Preferences' tree, and clicked on the 'Anti-Virus' leaf, but Norton AntiVirus has no antiviral plug-ins (.BAV files). I checked the following FTP site, but saw no plug-in that appears to pertain to NAV: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/ On a Polish Web site about The Bat!, I found a reference to a RITLabs FTP site containing .BAV files (ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/), but the site does not exist anymore. How can I use Norton AntiVirus 2003 with The Bat! 3.0? Other e-mail programs that I have been testing automatically find NAV and a progress bar appears, for example, when I send an e-mail message and Norton is checking it. (I always check outgoing, as well as incoming, e-mail messages for viruses.) I have read the RITLabs Knowledge Base article, "Using Norton Antivirus" (http://www.ritlabs.com/kb/idx/8/003/article/), which concludes by stating that the "last version of NAV works transparently and doesn't require any changes from user's side." The article, unfortunately, does not refer to versions of NAV by number, just in the relative terms of "old" and the "last". (The KB article is dated 25 October 2003.) The "last" version may refer to NAV 2004 -- or to 2003, which I have. (I did not upgrade to NSW Pro 2004, because of bad reviews by users. I simply keep my virus definitions current, my subscription renewed, and I run the program frequently, usually, daily.) I have also searched Symantec's support KnowledgeBase, but the only relevant article was for NAV 2001 under Windows 98/Me, with an old version of The Bat!, so I am not sure that the information in the article is at all relevant (and The Bat! did not use an anti-virus plug-in in that version). I have the options in The Bat! 3.0 selected to check both incoming and outgoing messages for viruses, but The Bat! apparently does not try to find antiviral software automatically and it will accept only a .BAV plug-in file -- but perhaps NAV 2003 is "working transparently." :-| Obviously, I do not want to receive or spread computer viruses, so I would be grateful for any suggestions. Thank you very much, in advance! Cordially, David -- David M. Dickerson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://ddickerson.igc.org/ * * * "In a world of absurdity, we must invent reason; we must create beauty out of nothingness." - ELIE WIESEL _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins
Hi David Boggon - On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, at 17:31:58 [GMT +1000] (which was 12:31 AM where I live) you wrote: > um, my German isn't what it used to be ... how comes there isn't an > equivalent site in English? could the authors stretch to a translated > page? Use AltaVista or BabbleFish to translate. It works fine. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpuzjGmfNh7d.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins
Hello David, On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:31:58 +1000GMT(08.07.2004, 09:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: > um, my German isn't what it used to be ... what a pity ;-) perhaps you can get answered your question here: Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com -- Regards, :Feli: The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins
Hi Feli & others, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: FW> have a look at http://www.batworld.de/ or FW> http://www.thebatworld.de/ um, my German isn't what it used to be ... how comes there isn't an equivalent site in English? could the authors stretch to a translated page? -- David ___ Indigenous Australian infants die at almost three times the rate of other Australian infants. (source: ANTaR 2004) http://www.antar.org.au/ Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-ins
Hello Markus, On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:54:22 +0200GMT(07.07.2004, 21:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: > Just started using TheBat welcome! > and have one question: that's what the list is for ;-) > - where can I find Anti Spam and Anti Virus plug ins for The Bat? have a look at http://www.batworld.de/ or http://www.thebatworld.de/ -- Regards, :Feli: The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Plug-ins
Hi ! Just started using TheBat and have one question: - where can I find Anti Spam and Anti Virus plug ins for The Bat? Best Regards, Markus Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! and its plug-ins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Claude, Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 11:57:31 AM, Claude Renaud wrote: CR> I would like to know if on the internet, on the Ritlabs' website, CR> or anywhere else, there is a page which gathers all plug-ins which CR> have been developped for The Bat!. If no, do you think it could be CR> a good idea to create such one so that we could have a unique CR> place where to go in order to know about their development, CR> information about various projects etc ? On the Ritlabs web site choose the "Knowledge Base" for The Bat!. There you'll find links to various plugins and macros that other folks have written. - -- * * Best regards, * Marc. * New Orleans, LA (USA) * FIDONET=1:396/45 INTELEC=239:600/70 * INTERNET: marc.lewis at sstar dot com * TELNET://sursum-corda.com * BBS, DATA & FAX: 1-504-897-6006 * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: "" iQA/AwUBQLOBN/ku/tz1Eg1XEQK3qgCgxe90YAyMkNsCmO0rT9BykxLNd+8AoPAv 2XLW/IoNm5XRexRcGKAQnZ1G =PKM1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
the bat! and its plug-ins
Hi, I would like to know if on the internet, on the Ritlabs' website, or anywhere else, there is a page which gathers all plug-ins which have been developped for The Bat!. If no, do you think it could be a good idea to create such one so that we could have a unique place where to go in order to know about their development, information about various projects etc ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Secure Bat! v2.10.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A question about Plug-ins
Hello Marek, Friday, April 30, 2004, 3:54:53 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): > Friday, April 30, 2004, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: > look to AVConfig.INI file in MAIL directory on disk, what plugin is > listed there. If is a plugin added in TB, but can't be loaded (plugin > was removed, deleted, unistalled...), Error status appears. The AVConfig.ini has the following content: [General] CheckOpenAttach=1 CheckSaveAttach=1 CheckOutgoing=0 CheckMail=1 SendNotify=0 NotifyTemplate=%TO\3D\22\22%-\0D\0A%IF:\22%OFROMADDR\22\3D\22%ORETURNPATH\22:\22%TO\3D\27%OFROMNAME\20<%OFROMADDR>\27\22:\22%TO\3D\27%ORETURNPATH\27\22%-\0D\0A%IF:\22%ORETURNPATH\22\3D\22\22:\22%TO\3D\27%OFROMNAME\20<%OFROMADDR>\27\22%-\0D\0AAttention!\0D\0A\0D\0AIt\20seems\20you\20have\20got\20a\20virus\20on\20your\20machine!\0D\0APlease\20make\20sure\20you\20have\20the\20latest\20update\20of\20your\20virus\20scanner\0D\0Aand\20check\20all\20your\20files\20right\20away!\0D\0A\0D\0AThe\20headers\20of\20infected\20mail\20follow:\0D\0A-\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A-\0D\0A\0D\0A--\20\0D\0ATake\20care,\0D\0AThe\20Bat!\20-\20automatic\20mail\20servant\20of\20%FROMNAME.\0D\0A Action=4 [Checkers] Count=0 Norton Antivirus is set to check incoming email for possible viruses, but I couldn't find any setting in the program to direct NAV to The Bat! for this purpose. -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A question about Plug-ins
Hello all, Friday, April 30, 2004, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: > In Options | Preferences --> Protection there is an entry in the Anti > Virus Plug-ins for a "Generic dll Plug-in" with "Unknown" version and > "Error" status. I use Norton Antivirus and Zone Alarm for antivirus > and firewall protection respectively. The question is, what is this > plug-in and why is its status "Error"? look to AVConfig.INI file in MAIL directory on disk, what plugin is listed there. If is a plugin added in TB, but can't be loaded (plugin was removed, deleted, unistalled...), Error status appears. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.10.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A question about Plug-ins
Hello, In Options | Preferences --> Protection there is an entry in the Anti Virus Plug-ins for a "Generic dll Plug-in" with "Unknown" version and "Error" status. I use Norton Antivirus and Zone Alarm for antivirus and firewall protection respectively. The question is, what is this plug-in and why is its status "Error"? -- Best regards, Costas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! plug-ins ?
Hi All, Where is it possible to find/download plug-ins for The Bat! V2.0 ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! plug-ins ?
Hi All, Where is it possible to find/download plug-ins for The Bat! V2.0 ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Hello ken, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 5:28:57 PM, you wrote: k> Thanks for the catch! I would have continued to miss that one had k> you not pointed it out. I was using a Quick template to reply below k> quotes and must have set up my sig incorrectly. No problem. That's what we're all here for. :-) -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Hi Ken, > Is this only available for v2 of TB? No, it works with v1.6 and higher, afaik. > Is the plug-in for TB or for AVG? (AVG has an Outlook Express > plug-in - is there one for TB???) It's for TB, you have to download it seperately (until v7, as Marek already pointed out). > I've been a long-time user of both TB and AVG - didn't even realize > there was an AVG plug-in available! Well, I feel like it's very useful for checking mail even though I'm lucky that I don't get many viruses, but you never know... Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Leif Gregory wrote: > Looks like you missed the space after the -- Thanks for the catch! I would have continued to miss that one had you not pointed it out. I was using a Quick template to reply below quotes and must have set up my sig incorrectly. -- ken Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 10:13:50 AM, ETM wrote: E> Thanks, DG and others who have responded. I already am using K9 which E> operates in the same fashion. However, I had the impression that E> perhaps Popfile might do more. The decision comes down to whether I E> want to train another puppy. Popfile's a very easy puppy to train - I was getting something like 99.7% accuracy within hours of installing it :-) -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Hello all, Thursday, September 18, 2003, ken wrote: > Is this only available for v2 of TB? Is the plug-in for TB or for AVG? > (AVG has an Outlook Express plug-in - is there one for TB???) > I've been a long-time user of both TB and AVG - didn't even realize > there was an AVG plug-in available! You can download plugin "AVG6 for The Bat!" from following location: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/avgbat10us.exe BTW plugin is already included in AVG 7.0 installation package. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Hello ken, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 4:39:39 PM, you wrote: k> -- k> ken Looks like you missed the space after the -- This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out ken. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Thank you. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AVG plug-in (Was Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?)
Antje Lehmann wrote: > I use the AVG Anti-Virus plugin. Nothing else so far. Is this only available for v2 of TB? Is the plug-in for TB or for AVG? (AVG has an Outlook Express plug-in - is there one for TB???) I've been a long-time user of both TB and AVG - didn't even realize there was an AVG plug-in available! -- ken Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hello DG On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, you wrote > Popfile connects to your e-mail server and gets your mail and > processes it. The_Bat! connects to Popfile and further downloads the e-mail from > Popfile as a standing proxy. > Anyway ... > Simplistic explanation and I hope you understand it. Doesn't do IMAP > though so ... Thanks, DG and others who have responded. I already am using K9 which operates in the same fashion. However, I had the impression that perhaps Popfile might do more. The decision comes down to whether I want to train another puppy. Elaine It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail. --Gore Vidal Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:44:01 AM (GMT -05:00) RE: "Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?" Greetings ETM, On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 6:48:26 AM, you wrote: ETM> I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile ETM> compatible with TB!? I am using K9 and assume Popfile uses ETM> similar settings, but perhaps offers more options. K9 works well ETM> with TB!. POPFile is an e-mail proxy. It layers itself between The_Bat! and your pop server. POP(3) server > Popfile > The_Bat! Popfile connects to your e-mail server and gets your mail and processes it. The_Bat! connects to Popfile and further downloads the e-mail from Popfile as a standing proxy. Anyway ... Simplistic explanation and I hope you understand it. Doesn't do IMAP though so ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. This website may not be idiot proof, but at least it's dimwit resistant. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2hmNbwi09Hs/j+VEQKZwgCfZTUAKbFUN3NntgjOB62JMrwf7zsAn0/I GgMGuEPCo07Qw0M4N68HQ9rx =th/6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 6:48:26 AM, ETM wrote: E> I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile E> compatible with TB!? I am using K9 and assume Popfile uses similar E> settings, but perhaps offers more options. K9 works well with TB!. I can't compare it with K9, since I haven't used K9, but yes, Popfile is compatible with TB (and any other pop email client, since it sits between the server & the client - an advantage to *not* being a plug-in). Popfile works very well ime (I also use it to sort more than spam). -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hi Rich, You can try spampal. It's a freeware and has lots of plugins. It can be found at http://www.spampal.org/ -- Best regards, drifthat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, 17 September 2003, ETM wrote: E> I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile E> compatible with TB!? It is compatible with TB, but (as you may guess from the name) it is only compatible with POP, not IMAP. I found it very easy to set up with TB; if you have trouble, just ask me for help. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hello Tim, > ...as POPFile is more useful (classifies more than just spam). Right! For example I use it to classify messages by language (Spanish, English) so may reply templates can 'automagically' set the proper language and spell checker for the reply. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hello Tim On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, you wrote > I use the AVG anti-virus plugin. At this stage I'm not interested in > anti-spam plugins, as POPFile is more useful (classifies more than > just spam). I notice that the website does not mention TheBat! Is Popfile compatible with TB!? I am using K9 and assume Popfile uses similar settings, but perhaps offers more options. K9 works well with TB!. Elaine We are so vain that we even care for the opinion of those we don't care for. --Marie Ebner von Eschenbach Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
On Wednesday, 17 September 2003, Rich Gregory wrote: RG> What plug-ins of ANY KIND (anti-spam or otherwise) is ANYONE RG> actually using for the BAT? I use the AVG anti-virus plugin. At this stage I'm not interested in anti-spam plugins, as POPFile is more useful (classifies more than just spam). -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Cannot find a quick template "list" Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Hi, Rich Gregory wrote: > Are there ANY plug-ins at all that work with TB (especially anti-spam plug > ins)? (Bayesit cannot count as it locks up TB from starting at all!) I'm not using any since K9 works fine for me, but I found these two plug-ins mentioned on a German TB! resource site I visit once in a while: NetPlug Spam Beta 2 http://home.arcor.de/thebat/download/netPlug_beta0_2.zip Vampire X 160-02-04 http://home.arcor.de/thebat/download/vampirex.exe > What plug-ins of ANY KIND (anti-spam or otherwise) is ANYONE actually using > for the BAT? I use the AVG Anti-Virus plugin. Nothing else so far. Antje Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Are there ANY (anti-spam) plug ins?
Are there ANY plug-ins at all that work with TB (especially anti-spam plug ins)? (Bayesit cannot count as it locks up TB from starting at all!) What plug-ins of ANY KIND (anti-spam or otherwise) is ANYONE actually using for the BAT? I think I'd prefer an anti-spam plug-in to a proxy, spam-interceptor type program so that less resources are running on my PC. Is that sound logic? *or* I suppose 'bad' plug ins (aka Bayesit) just as likely to cause me trouble as a hog-gy program ever would! No? Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: antivirus plug-ins?
Hello Scott, Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 4:48:34 AM, you wrote: SJ> Does checking anything on the virus protection window actually make a SJ> difference if you do *not* have Kaspersky installed? Also, are there SJ> any antivirus external plug-ins available? $100 for Kaspersky Pro SJ> version which allows integration is simply not an option here. We have Kaspersky Personal here and it scans everything without any plug-in ( there isn't one ) so the virus protection window doesn't even show Kaspersky !! Doing a test mailing using a file known to trigger Kaspersky ( not the Eicar test ! ) completely locked the outbox until the offending message was deleted so we know it works - and works well :-) -- Best regards, Barry2 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: antivirus plug-ins?
Hello Scott, This works for a time delay in a batch file. It is for 5 seconds, so change the 5 to your liking. TYPE NUL | CHOICE.COM /N /CY /TY,5 >NUL Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 10:49:11 PM, you wrote: SJ> Haico, SJ> -line 2 is the only way I could find to create a pause in a batch SJ> file. Without the pause, things went so quickly that it could only SJ> detect the first virus if there were multiples. -- Best regards, John Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: antivirus plug-ins?
Haico, *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Wednesday, November 6, 2002, 12:34:19 PM, you wrote: H> I hope this helps: H> http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/fprot_e.htm Ok. That did help. It wasn't my answer but it got me started in the right direction. I used that info and *tweaked* it a bit. As briefly as possible, here is what I did... I set TB's filter exactly as shown at that URL except I added the HIDDEN option on the actions tab and modified paths to suit my system. I wrote my own batch file so it would basically do what I wanted with AVG. Here is my batch file (scan.bat) which I keep in my AVG folder. It's refered to in the "run external program" box. --- copy C:\winxp\temp\av\*.* C:\winxp\temp\av\temp\*.* PING 1.1.1.1 -n 2 -w 1000 >NUL del c:\winxp\temp\av\temp\*.* /q del c:\winxp\temp\av\*.* /q --- -line 1 simply tries to copy the files that The Bat extracted from "AV" to "AV\TEMP". This allows AVG's resident scan engine to detect any virus present and display a window. -line 2 is the only way I could find to create a pause in a batch file. Without the pause, things went so quickly that it could only detect the first virus if there were multiples. -lines 3 & 4 are just cleanup. To state the obvious...Winxp is my windows folder. I created the "AV" folder within the standard Windows temp folder and the "TEMP" folder within it. You can use whatever folders you like but the paths must be changed accordingly. My "AV" folder is refered to in the "extract attached files to the specified directory" box under the actions tab. I had tried following the directions from the above URL to setup the DOS version of AVG to scan the files, but there were problems with errors and it took forever to load the program for each run. It required a separate run for each E-mail with attachments. Good luck if anyone else wants to give it a try. It should work this way with ANY virus scanner as long as you have it set to scan files on access. One final question...is it possible for a virus to activate with a simple copy command if there is no resident scanner active? -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: antivirus plug-ins?
On 6-11-2002 at 16:44, Marcus wrote: Hi Marcus, > Can you make TB work with F-Prot, or do you definitely need > a special plug-in? I hope this helps: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/fprot_e.htm -- Greetings, Haico Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: antivirus plug-ins?
Hallo Marcus, On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:44:48 +0100GMT (6-11-02, 16:44 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: M> Can you make TB work with F-Prot, Only with a very limited ability, you can extract your attachments and filter them with F-Prot triggered by a filter. M> or do you definitely need a special plug-in? The plug-ins provide a different kind of functionality. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: antivirus plug-ins?
Can you make TB work with F-Prot, or do you definitely need a special plug-in? Thanks, Marcus Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: antivirus plug-ins?
Dear Scott, Wednesday, November 6, 2002 at 5:48:34 AM you wrote: SJ> $100 for Kaspersky Pro version which allows integration is simply SJ> not an option here. You can use Kaspersky Workstation too, and it discovers the virus, but it only put it in the quarantine box the first time I tried. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... It's called subtlety, Stu. You should look it up sometime. ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7BA406E8D52) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
antivirus plug-ins?
Does checking anything on the virus protection window actually make a difference if you do *not* have Kaspersky installed? Also, are there any antivirus external plug-ins available? $100 for Kaspersky Pro version which allows integration is simply not an option here. -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
Monday, April 22, 2002, 7:11:48 AM, Mandara scribbled: M> By default "receive" and "delete" is checked. So you have to un-check M> "receive" and leave "delete" as is, if you don't like some mail. So THAT'S what the problem's been. Thanks! Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 06:10:56 -0500 Michael wrote:
>>> How does one actually use dispatch from within TB to delete mail at
>>> the server?
DH>> When you open the Mail Dispatcher and it connects, you see the
DH>> different columns. If a message is only checked for deletion, TB! does
DH>> send the DELETE command to the server.
MD> OK, I'm slow, so bear with me... :) That means ONLY the delete flag
MD> should be checked?
Yep. :)
All what is checked will work, all what doesn't will not.
By default "receive" and "delete" is checked. So you have to un-check
"receive" and leave "delete" as is, if you don't like some mail.
Mandara
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Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
Monday, April 22, 2002, 3:52:03 AM, Dierk scribbled: >> How does one actually use dispatch from within TB to delete mail at >> the server? DH> When you open the Mail Dispatcher and it connects, you see the DH> different columns. If a message is only checked for deletion, TB! does DH> send the DELETE command to the server. OK, I'm slow, so bear with me... :) That means ONLY the delete flag should be checked? Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
Hello ETM! On Monday, April 22, 2002 at 9:50:50 AM you wrote: > How does one actually use dispatch from within TB to delete mail at > the server? When you open the Mail Dispatcher and it connects, you see the different columns. If a message is only checked for deletion, TB! does send the DELETE command to the server. If a message is not deleted, either the command is not received or not understood by the server. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60d on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Education has produced a vast population able to read but unable to distinguish what is worth reading. (G.M. Trevelyan) Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
I have had two occasions when TB and my AV program circled the campfire as TB downloaded to a tmp file and the AV program notified me I had received an exploit virus. On each occasion, I went out to the web and deleted the offending emails at the server. Then it was necessary to delete TB's tmp files to satisfy (shut up) the AV program. I had the impression that using dispatch would allow me to get to those emails and to delete them at the server level. However, I was not successful. How does one actually use dispatch from within TB to delete mail at the server? Both of the occasions involved false positives when someone had written asking about the html exploit virus and quoted a bit too much of the string involved but it gave me a chance to see the interaction between TB and the AV program. Elaine Hello Roelof On Friday, April 19, 2002, you wrote > A program that monitors all your incoming traffic, will block TB's > downloading of infected messages. That way TB can't finish it's > receiving messages and will try to download the same messages over and > over, because the server doesn't delete them. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Miguel,
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, at 17:47:28 +0200 you wrote:
>> I can't find any advantage even of monitoring traffic at all. By my
>> experience it is much faster (and cheaper, regarding resources and
>> online time) to use some real-time AV monitor which will react if you
>> try to deal with infected attachment.
MAU> There is definitely an advantage in monitoring traffic because not al
MAU> virus are spread in attached files.
[...]
I agree. And this is only spot which is not quite clear to me: if some
nasty html code arrive in mail (not attached but "embedded") would a
real-time AV monitor detect it? Since we are using Bat, which has own
rendering html machine, and since the trojan we consider here is
writen for IE engine, it seems that there is no need to be nervous.
Any way, a good AV monitor should discover *any* virus activities,
regardless way of its execution. So if I could go to see this message
with embedded html, and if I activate some nasty link, script or
whatever - then AV should react, in a same secure way as if virus
would start from an attachment. Am I right?
I just cannot see why would POP scanner discover something which is
not possible for HD scanner?
If this AV database would discover something during POP scanning, it
must discover it on HD too.
Mandara
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Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
On Friday, April 19, 2002, 4:42:05 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: > Would you mind terribly trimming down the number of characters you > use for a quote prefix? I second that. It's very confusing since with the long prefixes they don't get tagged as replies with my settings and it's much more confusing to try to follow. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Lynna Lunsford, On Friday, April 19 2002 at 02:50 PM PDT, you wrote: > Considering I have had the program installed less than > a week, would you send me detailed instructions on how > to accomplish this? Sure no problem... it is an often overlooked preference setting. There are actually two settings that you should set: 1) Options/Editor Preferences/General... down at the bottom you will see "Quote Name Limit". This one is really for your benefit, and should reflect the number of characters *you* would like to see behind ">" that turn up as quoted material. 2) Accounts/Properties/Templates/Reply... under "Sender information used for quotation"... you can set it as you like, but "Initials" or even "First Name" seems to be more a norm than having both the first and last name. I would say 50% choose "None" or "Initials". While you are in the Account Properties... at the bottom of the page you will see two little check boxes. You should make sure that only the bottom one is checked. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Nick, Friday, April 19, 2002, 1:42:05 PM, you wrote: Nick Andriash> Would you mind terribly trimming down the number of characters you use for Nick Andriash> a quote prefix? By using first and last name... which is only for TB users Nick Andriash> and only if they have their preferences set to allow for it... you Nick Andriash> minimise the actual number of characters for comments. Based on a 74 Nick Andriash> character normal line length, one can only type in 55 or so characters of Nick Andriash> actual text before the line starts to wrap. Nick Andriash> Thanks very much.. Considering I have had the program installed less than a week, would you send me detailed instructions on how to accomplish this? I am perfectly willing to accommodate I just need to know how this is done. -- Best regards, Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Lynna, On Friday, April 19 2002 at 02:19 PM PDT, you wrote: > Roelof Otten> over, because the server doesn't delete them. > > Here is what AVG has to say about it (I pasted from AVG's own help > files): Would you mind terribly trimming down the number of characters you use for a quote prefix? By using first and last name... which is only for TB users and only if they have their preferences set to allow for it... you minimise the actual number of characters for comments. Based on a 74 character normal line length, one can only type in 55 or so characters of actual text before the line starts to wrap. Thanks very much.. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Roelof, Friday, April 19, 2002, 6:10:35 AM, you wrote: Roelof Otten> A program that monitors all your incoming traffic, will block TB's Roelof Otten> downloading of infected messages. That way TB can't finish it's Roelof Otten> receiving messages and will try to download the same messages over and Roelof Otten> over, because the server doesn't delete them. Here is what AVG has to say about it (I pasted from AVG's own help files): "AVG Resident Shield is a program that is installed on your computer as a part of the AVG System. It runs automatically when Windows starts. The program monitors important system functions related to all your internal files and removable media. Once you access a file from your hard drive, a floppy, CD-ROM or Web site, AVG's Resident Shield checks the data before you are allowed to work with it to insure it is virus free. This check is so quick, you will not notice a delay in operation. " -- Regards, Lynna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Miguel, Friday, April 19, 2002, 7:47:28 AM, you wrote: Miguel A. Urech> There is definitely an advantage in monitoring traffic because not al Miguel A. Urech> virus are spread in attached files. As an example, take a look at: Miguel A. Urech> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in this list with Subject: Miguel A. Urech> IFrame.Exploit virus Miguel A. Urech> and http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_98918.htm Also my experience with AVG was that it notifies me as I download e-mail. If a e-mail is infected, it will grab the infected file and place it in the virus vault. This happens when I am downloading, not just when I open the e-mail or the attachment. I like that, it never gets a chance to be opened or to infect. You have the choice once a file is in the vault to try and clean it or you can delete it entirely. Very seldom is one "cleanable" (IMHO). -- Best regards, Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
Hello Mandara, > I can't find any advantage even of monitoring traffic at all. By my > experience it is much faster (and cheaper, regarding resources and > online time) to use some real-time AV monitor which will react if you > try to deal with infected attachment. There is definitely an advantage in monitoring traffic because not al virus are spread in attached files. As an example, take a look at: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in this list with Subject: IFrame.Exploit virus and http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_98918.htm -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, at 07:22:44 -0500 Michael wrote:
MD> I've seen the discussions concerning anti-virus plug-ins, and I'm
MD> wondering what advantage that has over a program that monitors all
MD> incoming traffic.
I can't find any advantage even of monitoring traffic at all. By my
experience it is much faster (and cheaper, regarding resources and
online time) to use some real-time AV monitor which will react if you
try to deal with infected attachment.
Mandara
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Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
Hello Roelof, Friday, April 19, 2002, 3:10:35 PM, you wrote: RO> A program that monitors all your incoming traffic, will block TB's RO> downloading of infected messages. That way TB can't finish it's RO> receiving messages and will try to download the same messages over and RO> over, because the server doesn't delete them. I have never experienced this. AVG from grisoft allows the downloads to finish, and only lets me know that I have a virus when I go to open the attachment/email. Doesn't affect downloading whatsoever whichis logical as a virus is not going to execute just by being downloaded. -- Best regards, Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Michael, On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:22:44 -0500GMT (19-4-02, 14:22 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MD> I've seen the discussions concerning anti-virus plug-ins, and I'm MD> wondering what advantage that has over a program that monitors all MD> incoming traffic. A program that monitors all your incoming traffic, will block TB's downloading of infected messages. That way TB can't finish it's receiving messages and will try to download the same messages over and over, because the server doesn't delete them. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Lynna On 19 April 2002 at 04:42:01 -0800 (which was 13:42 where I live) Lynna Lunsford emanated these words of wisdom MD>> I've seen the discussions concerning anti-virus plug-ins, and I'm MD>> wondering what advantage that has over a program that monitors all MD>> incoming traffic. LL> Actually AVG has a resident shield that does monitor all traffic LL> Internet or otherwise. Even without the plug in it would work, LL> theoretically anyway. According to info at the grisoft.com web, every LL> time you access a file whether it on a disk or during a download LL> "resident shield" is checking / monitoring / runs in the background. I LL> don't know the advantages over the plug in, I am using both, I figured LL> it TB web site had it available for download they did so for a reason. LL> But as a newbie I have limited knowledge on the need /reasoning of it. LL> All I know is it works for me. Sorry I don't think so, because attachments are encoded AVG can not check them with out the plug in. However AVG will / should check any attachments when you want to run it because they get un-packed/extracted first. - -- Regards, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.60 d / iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Dafynition #287: TSR - Trash System Randomly | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG Signed, sealed, delivered. iD8DBQE8wBNx+Yrx5mUPRTQRAguTAKDDsp+JfbLTcXG7J29VXHQ/BGoI6wCghKUL aBDj8JVkJePlRX1dIOJmdrk= =y0RY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AV Plug-ins vs. Not
Hi Michael, Friday, April 19, 2002, 4:22:44 AM, you wrote: Michael Disabato> Folks, Michael Disabato> I've seen the discussions concerning anti-virus plug-ins, and I'm Michael Disabato> wondering what advantage that has over a program that monitors all Michael Disabato> incoming traffic. Michael Disabato> Mike Actually AVG has a resident shield that does monitor all traffic Internet or otherwise. Even without the plug in it would work, theoretically anyway. According to info at the grisoft.com web, every time you access a file whether it on a disk or during a download "resident shield" is checking / monitoring / runs in the background. I don't know the advantages over the plug in, I am using both, I figured it TB web site had it available for download they did so for a reason. But as a newbie I have limited knowledge on the need /reasoning of it. All I know is it works for me. -- Regards, Lynna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AV Plug-ins vs. Not
Folks, I've seen the discussions concerning anti-virus plug-ins, and I'm wondering what advantage that has over a program that monitors all incoming traffic. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
