Re: Possible with template?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 6:38:48 AM you wrote: RO> The rest is to convince your serverto send for for all of those RO> addresses via one account. As I'm running my own server, that's easy. Are you talking about aliases? That's something Adam can most probably also do as most ISP's give out aliases. -- Regards, Charles. TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hallo Adam, On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:12:56 -0230GMT (15-6-2004, 20:42 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> That won't help you when you've got 30 or 40 addresses all handled by >> the same account. A> How is that possible? TB can handle it all right, you can do it by changing the from address manually, by means of folderr identities (that's what I'm doing) or by means of the %From= macro in your templates. The rest is to convince your serverto send for for all of those addresses via one account. As I'm running my own server, that's easy. >> copied to this system. I'm not sure how to handle my archiving now. >> (I'm still archiving stuff at my server, though.) A> Is that by requesting two copies of everything you intend to receive? No my server has an archiving feature, that I'm using to create monthly archives of all mal that's passing it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Roelof, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 7:01:20 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Charles, > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:32:19 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 22:32 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: CMG>> I like the other person's suggestion more: Bottom of the screen, and it CMG>> can be right clicked to switch accounts just like Apple Mail. > That won't help you when you've got 30 or 40 addresses all handled by > the same account. How is that possible? > I used to work with two accounts, both with the same account address, > but with one account strictly for archiving purposes. My main account > had about 30 or 40 addresses that it handled. > Two weeks ago I got myself a new pc and only my main account got > copied to this system. I'm not sure how to handle my archiving now. > (I'm still archiving stuff at my server, though.) Is that by requesting two copies of everything you intend to receive? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Roelof, Monday, June 14, 2004, 12:36:04 AM, you wrote: RO> I decided to pour everything into one account just because I didn't RO> need an inbox and outbox for every address, I'm filtering mail for RO> every address into its own folder, where I store the mail threaded. RO> The respective folders all have their own identity set in the folder RO> properties. Works for me, but YMMV. What I dislike about your approach is that it pins you down to an mua that owns that feature set. But, we're getting way OT :). -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hallo Charles, On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:58:46 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 23:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO>> That won't help you when you've got 30 or 40 addresses all handled by RO>> the same account. CMG> Nice to know, but a situation I've never ran into as I maintain a CMG> private mail server. So do I, I suppose we all have a different ideal solution. I decided to pour everything into one account just because I didn't need an inbox and outbox for every address, I'm filtering mail for every address into its own folder, where I store the mail threaded. The respective folders all have their own identity set in the folder properties. Works for me, but YMMV. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Roelof, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 11:31:20 PM, you wrote: RO> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:32:19 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 22:32 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: CMG>> I like the other person's suggestion more: Bottom of the screen, and it CMG>> can be right clicked to switch accounts just like Apple Mail. RO> That won't help you when you've got 30 or 40 addresses all handled by RO> the same account. Nice to know, but a situation I've never ran into as I maintain a private mail server. RO> Two weeks ago I got myself a new pc and only my main account got RO> copied to this system. I'm not sure how to handle my archiving now. RO> (I'm still archiving stuff at my server, though.) That's how I do it. Keep everything in IMAP folders. I keep about two months worth on a server on my lan by way of downloading as local copies. The rest is on the server almost forever. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hallo Charles, On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:32:19 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 22:32 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CMG> I like the other person's suggestion more: Bottom of the screen, and it CMG> can be right clicked to switch accounts just like Apple Mail. That won't help you when you've got 30 or 40 addresses all handled by the same account. I used to work with two accounts, both with the same account address, but with one account strictly for archiving purposes. My main account had about 30 or 40 addresses that it handled. Two weeks ago I got myself a new pc and only my main account got copied to this system. I'm not sure how to handle my archiving now. (I'm still archiving stuff at my server, though.) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Roelof, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 10:03:06 PM, you wrote: CMG>> Ah, yes, that's something I've been fighting with: How can you know CMG>> which account is used when the new message/reply/forward window is up? CMG>> On my Mac, I can always see that and change the account used. RO> You can see the account name used in the status at the bottom of the RO> edit screen. RO> In case you're using multiple addresses in one account, just like me, RO> it's possible to show the From header in the edit screen,. To enable RO> that, choose in the edit screen: RO> View -> check 'From:' I like the other person's suggestion more: Bottom of the screen, and it can be right clicked to switch accounts just like Apple Mail. Ya know, I bought this thing for it's text capabilities, but it turns out it has more useful features, too. And yes, I consider good text handling a feature :). -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hi Roelof, On Sunday, June 13, 2004, at 1:03:06 PM PST, you wrote: > You can see the account name used in the status at the bottom of the > edit screen. And with this indicator in the status bar, one can right click on the account name, and choose any other account to become the sending account for the particular message in question. All the other categories shown in the status bar can be right-clicked and changed on-the-fly as well. -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&Body=Please%20send%20keys TB! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgpHjuJQZCMfL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hallo Charles, On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:35:55 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 21:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CMG> Ah, yes, that's something I've been fighting with: How can you know CMG> which account is used when the new message/reply/forward window is up? CMG> On my Mac, I can always see that and change the account used. You can see the account name used in the status at the bottom of the edit screen. In case you're using multiple addresses in one account, just like me, it's possible to show the From header in the edit screen,. To enable that, choose in the edit screen: View -> check 'From:' -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Marck, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 8:49:38 PM, you wrote: NC>> A folder template, that sounds like what I need. MDP> Be careful! It will re-address any messages back to the list if you MDP> aren't careful - even from external mailto URLs if you leave the MDP> folder selected in the main window. Ah, yes, that's something I've been fighting with: How can you know which account is used when the new message/reply/forward window is up? On my Mac, I can always see that and change the account used. Thanks for the heads up. MDP>>> "Fred Nurke on BadList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" NC>> There are lots of reasons why it's better to set it up like NC>> that, so don't put it down like that... MDP> Maybe, however I am yet to hear one that isn't "historical" and the MDP> result of intransigence on the part of the list admins and I remain MDP> convinced that it is unnecessary and a nuisance in a mail reflector MDP> list to set it up that way. It's the qmail list. Lots of history there :). -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Dear Charles, @13-Jun-2004, 20:09 +0200 (13-Jun 19:09 UK time) Charles M. Gerungan [NC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP>> %to=''%to='"%ofromname on MDP>> %abotohandle=#%abotofirstname#" <%otoaddr>' NC> A folder template, that sounds like what I need. Be careful! It will re-address any messages back to the list if you aren't careful - even from external mailto URLs if you leave the folder selected in the main window. MDP>> "Fred Nurke on BadList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" NC> There are lots of reasons why it's better to set it up like NC> that, so don't put it down like that... Maybe, however I am yet to hear one that isn't "historical" and the result of intransigence on the part of the list admins and I remain convinced that it is unnecessary and a nuisance in a mail reflector list to set it up that way. Of course, a new list that doesn't expect a reply is another matter, but then, nobody writes to those to *be* replied to. Having run these lists and some others for many years now, I remain sceptical of the "old school" of configuration. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user SB! v2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpEDZoZ6HfMX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Peter, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 8:21:15 PM, you wrote: PM> In that case I'd save the template as a Quick Template with the %Clear PM> macro in the first line and select it manually by typing the handle PM> ++. I went for Marck's solution which exactly followed my requirements: Press Ctrl-R to reply to the list (just one keypress!) and still the possibility for a personal reply. But thanks, I learn from every reply. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hi Charles, on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:05:18 +0200GMT, you wrote: CMG>>> 3. There are two Delivered-To lines. CMG>>> Can a template be made so that TB! replies to the second Delivered-To CMG>>> line? PM>> I don't know. Hard coding the actual address is easier. I assume that PM>> the list name and address don't change too often, or do they? ;-) CMG> They don't, but who cares and it doesn't make a difference. The problem CMG> lies elsewhere: How does TB! know that it needs the template for the CMG> list address if the reply doesn't go to the From field. That's why I CMG> stated point 3. In that case I'd save the template as a Quick Template with the %Clear macro in the first line and select it manually by typing the handle ++. -- Cheers Peter Keyboard not found. Press F1 for help. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Marck, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 6:34:41 PM, you wrote: MDP> @13-Jun-2004, 16:14 +0200 (13-Jun 15:14 UK time) Charles M. Gerungan MDP> [NC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NC>> - When pressing the reply button, TB! should address the message NC>> to the following address: Original sender name NC>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MDP> This is only possible (in the circumstances as you have explained MDP> them) by using a folder template in which all messages replied to MDP> when that folder has the focus are inflicted with this reply MDP> template prefix: MDP> %to=''%to='"%ofromname on %abotohandle=#%abotofirstname#" <%otoaddr>' A folder template, that sounds like what I need. MDP> This creates an addressing of MDP> "Fred Nurke on BadList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" There are lots of reasons why it's better to set it up like that, so don't put it down like that... MDP> Alternatively, set up a QT on a hotkey that will switch to a private MDP> reply with a content something like: MDP> %to=''%to='"%ofromname" <%ofromaddr>' Yes. Very nice. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Peter, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 5:28:26 PM, you wrote: PM> Hi Charles, PM> on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:12:48 +0200GMT, you wrote: CMG What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing CMG lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the CMG original sender of the message, not the post address for the mailing CMG list. PM>>> Create an address book entry for the list and insert the following PM>>> line in the reply template: PM>>> %TO=""%TO='"%OFROMNAME on listname" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'%- CMG>> Wow, that was quick! However, it still replies to the original sender of CMG>> the message. Here's the headers: CMG>> ...headers snipped... CMG>> The problem is three-fold: CMG>> 1. The From line shows the original sender. PM> So that's the one chosen when you hit "Reply", as there is no Reply-To PM> header according to the list owner's decision. That's why you have to PM> *hard code* the list name and address in the template. CMG>> 3. There are two Delivered-To lines. CMG>> Can a template be made so that TB! replies to the second Delivered-To CMG>> line? PM> I don't know. Hard coding the actual address is easier. I assume that PM> the list name and address don't change too often, or do they? ;-) They don't, but who cares and it doesn't make a difference. The problem lies elsewhere: How does TB! know that it needs the template for the list address if the reply doesn't go to the From field. That's why I stated point 3. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Dear Nednieuws, @13-Jun-2004, 16:14 +0200 (13-Jun 15:14 UK time) Charles M. Gerungan [NC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NC> - When pressing the reply button, TB! should address the message NC> to the following address: Original sender name NC> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is only possible (in the circumstances as you have explained them) by using a folder template in which all messages replied to when that folder has the focus are inflicted with this reply template prefix: %to=''%to='"%ofromname on %abotohandle=#%abotofirstname#" <%otoaddr>' This creates an addressing of "Fred Nurke on BadList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" This assumes that the original message was addressed to the list and not to you personally. NC> - Still have the ability of the right mouse button clicking on a NC> header field and choosing Reply to this address and New message NC> to this address. Oops. That's killed by the above. Can't have both in this respect. NC> Is it possible? If so, how do I go about it? Only by copying the message to the inbox and replying from there to make a private response. Alternatively, set up a QT on a hotkey that will switch to a private reply with a content something like: %to=''%to='"%ofromname" <%ofromaddr>' -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user SB! v2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpJKC3qSKs5B.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hi Charles, on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:12:48 +0200GMT, you wrote: CMG>>> What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing CMG>>> lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the CMG>>> original sender of the message, not the post address for the mailing CMG>>> list. PM>> Create an address book entry for the list and insert the following PM>> line in the reply template: PM>> %TO=""%TO='"%OFROMNAME on listname" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'%- CMG> Wow, that was quick! However, it still replies to the original sender of CMG> the message. Here's the headers: CMG> ...headers snipped... CMG> The problem is three-fold: CMG> 1. The From line shows the original sender. So that's the one chosen when you hit "Reply", as there is no Reply-To header according to the list owner's decision. That's why you have to *hard code* the list name and address in the template. CMG> 3. There are two Delivered-To lines. CMG> Can a template be made so that TB! replies to the second Delivered-To CMG> line? I don't know. Hard coding the actual address is easier. I assume that the list name and address don't change too often, or do they? ;-) -- Cheers Peter And always remember that it's bad style to start a sentence with a conjunction! Winamp currently playing: Gabrielle Roth - Eliana Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Peter, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:55:04 PM, you wrote: CMG>> What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing CMG>> lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the CMG>> original sender of the message, not the post address for the mailing CMG>> list. PM> Create an address book entry for the list and insert the following PM> line in the reply template: PM> %TO=""%TO='"%OFROMNAME on listname" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'%- Wow, that was quick! However, it still replies to the original sender of the message. Here's the headers: Received: (qmail 21092 invoked by alias); 11 Jun 2004 20:22:05 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 21087 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2004 20:22:05 - Received: from stoneport.math.uic.edu (131.193.178.160) by usnj1.procreatie.nl with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 20:22:05 - Received: (qmail 24758 invoked by uid 1004); 11 Jun 2004 20:11:33 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 10418 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2004 19:56:32 - Received: from desk.crynwr.com (65.172.240.34) by stoneport.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 19:56:32 - Received: (qmail 5287 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jun 2004 19:56:12 - From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:56:12 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bagle.x viruscan signature In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 8) "Honest Recruiter" XEmacs Lucid X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-cmg_0.1 (2004-01-11) on usnj1.procreatie.nl X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=2.63-cmg_0.1 The problem is three-fold: 1. The From line shows the original sender. 2. The list's maintainer decision that he the from line shows the original sender. 3. There are two Delivered-To lines. Can a template be made so that TB! replies to the second Delivered-To line? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hi Charles, on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:14:39 +0200GMT, you wrote: CMG> What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing CMG> lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the CMG> original sender of the message, not the post address for the mailing CMG> list. Create an address book entry for the list and insert the following line in the reply template: %TO=""%TO='"%OFROMNAME on listname" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'%- This should do it. :-) -- Cheers Peter Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE! Winamp currently playing: Gabrielle Roth - La Canción de Manuel Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Possible with template?
What I'm looking for is a template to ease working with certain mailing lists. This type of mailing list has a Reply-To header set to the original sender of the message, not the post address for the mailing list. The details: - When pressing the reply button, TB! should address the message to the following address: Original sender name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Still have the ability of the right mouse button clicking on a header field and choosing Reply to this address and New message to this address. Is it possible? If so, how do I go about it? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
