Re: Broken threads and general threading question
Hello Jonathan, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:36:54 -0500 GMT (10/09/2003, 11:36 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: Is there a common thread as to who is sending them, or is it a bunch of people? Is there a common thread amongst them? I can see at least one example right away of a thread breaker on TBBETA, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has no In-Reply-To or References header. There is 4 possibilities. I'm not seeing this, but maybe you want to report it on TBBETA, the list you are referencing. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. -- Redd Foxx Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken threads and general threading question
Hi Jeffrey Monday, September 8, 2003, 1:30:46 PM, you wrote: JAS I notice that many of the threads in this group end up broken. This JAS seems especially obvious when The Bat! is threading based upon JAS reference (Alt-1). I would have thought that since the bulk of us are JAS using The Bat!, we would be able to maintain a consistent thread. Yes, same problem here. And no it shouldn't be a fastmail problem as you mentioned elsewhere since I don't use it. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken threads and general threading question
Hi Vishal, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:19:54 -0400 you wrote: V Yes, same problem here. And no it shouldn't be a fastmail problem as you V mentioned elsewhere since I don't use it. Good to hear that someone else is seeing it with The Bat!. I think that Thomas' point was that it was our providers fault. He indicated that the delay in receipt is breaking the threads. If you are using myrealbox.com, I have heard that they are having terrible issues lately. Not totally sure what is causing it at this point, but the provider idea might have some merit. Jeff -- Jeffrey A. Shumway Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken threads and general threading question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, September 09, 2003, Vishal wrote... Yes they are. However, the problem isn't confined to myrealbox. And I think it's unlikely that everyone's providers suddenly went haywire. Is there a common thread as to who is sending them, or is it a bunch of people? Is there a common thread amongst them? I can see at least one example right away of a thread breaker on TBBETA, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has no In-Reply-To or References header. There is 4 possibilities. 1. TB didn't put them in. 2. My server stripped them off. 3. His server stripped them off. 4. The list server stripped them off. Well, I'm going to discount 2 because I've not changed anything in months, and it's not happening on all mails. Which can probably also exclude the list, and his server. That leaves TB. While composing this message however, I notice in the same folder several others are clearly breaking threading: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is just one example, however that email has a few References, and an In-Reply-To. So it'd appear TB is breaking threading somewhere. Although, a real oddity, I changed threading to subject (which is broken as has been pointed out a few times), then back to references, the threads _nearly_ built themselves correctly, however it is now showing a whole bunch of emails as replied to, though I didn't, and it keeps loading the wrong emails when I select them. *investigates some more* - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) SHOCKING TRUTH: 50% of all people are below average -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP16qaiuD6BT4/R9zEQIQ4QCeOJS8PFy0qzzyqUstrXS6q3fqqOEAniaR MbxC2ORPpiHxXk5upQOeGFPD =+1sg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken threads and general threading question
Hello Jeffrey, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:30:46 -0400 GMT (09/09/2003, 00:30 +0700 GMT), Jeffrey A. Shumway wrote: I notice that many of the threads in this group end up broken. Not here. This seems especially obvious when The Bat! is threading based upon reference (Alt-1). That's what I'm using. What is causing the broken threads? Your email provider. I see yours has the TLD .cc. That's the price you pay. I was on my secondary account @myrealbox for a while, and threads were broken, because the message were delivered to my POP box irregularly. Threads were broken, because messages 2 or 3 days old hadn't been delivered; I received the reply to the reply before the previous two messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken threads and general threading question
Hello Jeffrey, On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:07:02 -0400 GMT (09/09/2003, 01:07 +0700 GMT), Jeffrey A. Shumway wrote: Would it make a difference if I selected a different domain with the same provider? I am a Fastmail.fm user, but I liked the eml.cc domain. Is it Fastmail's fault of the actual top level domain? I don't know, you'll have give it a try. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ein Computerfreak wird die Zeit, die der Computer automatisch arbeitet, dazu benutzen, ihm dabei unbewegt zuzusehen, um zu beobachten, ob er richtig laeuft. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken threads and general threading question
08-Sep-2003 19:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: irregularly. Threads were broken, because messages 2 or 3 days old hadn't been delivered; I received the reply to the reply before the previous two messages. That happens quite often here on one specific mailing list I'm on, and its no problem. If the originating message of the thread arrives, TB sorts it in just nicely and messages are threaded exactly as they should. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Our papers are filled with puffs of quackery, and every man who can exhibit a few experiments to a class of young ladies is called a man of science. -- Joseph Henry, Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution in the 1870's Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
