Re: Mails in foreign languages
Mittwoch, 8. Juli 2009 at 04:59, MFPA wrote: Or maybe run the second one under sandboxie You have to run both under Sandboxie, because every Application in the Sandbox can read the Registry outside of the Host Machine... -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.2.7.1 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM - Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 2.2.4 r47978 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:24:45 +0200, Jens Franik wrote: [Two TB! versions on one machine] Or maybe run the second one under sandboxie You have to run both under Sandboxie, because every Application in the Sandbox can read the Registry outside of the Host Machine... Then try installing Voyager... Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello Dwight, On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:59:22 -0500 GMT (08/Jul/09, 11:59 +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: Running two seperate versions of the TheBat! on the same machine which will require some registry fiddling. DC workarounds seem always to be a dime a dozen (and often not worth that DC much), but a fix is more like a hen's tooth. A very colourful remark while still right on the dot. I hope you mean that a fix is what we need. I know the hen's tooth in the context of something being very rare. I hope you don't mean that any hope for a (timely) fix is wasted energy. I am sure Ritlabs will fix this important issue (how do I set the Priority in the BT to high?) as soon as they return from their summer vacation. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello Arjan, On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:12:10 +0200 GMT (08/Jul/09, 18:12 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: AdG [Two TB! versions on one machine] Or maybe run the second one under sandboxie You have to run both under Sandboxie, because every Application in the Sandbox can read the Registry outside of the Host Machine... AdG Then try installing Voyager... Good idea! I still have Voyager 4.0.34 on my USB stick, and guess what, it displays the Thai mails correctly. So I have a temporary workaround now. Since nobody from Ritlabs has replies, I guess they are on summer holiday. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:36:04 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: A very colourful remark while still right on the dot. I hope you mean that a fix is what we need. I know the hen's tooth in the context of something being very rare. I hope you don't mean that any hope for a (timely) fix is wasted energy. That is a question for Ritlabs, not for me :) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.7.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Tuesday 7 July 2009 at 6:21:41 AM, in mid:94421324.20090707122...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654 M Just to check, here's screenshots of TB! 4.0.38 M viewing your emails:- M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774827/splendid_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774826/LogisticsDigest_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774825/wong_eml.GIF.html Thanks for that. I could download splendid and wong, but the system called me a bot when I tried LogisticsDigest. The system should wash its mouth with soapy water! Please send me the gif files by PM, I will upload them on my website so that people can see what they should look like - not every reads Thai. On their way. I confirm splendid and wong are displayed as they should (and do in 4.0.28) but they display as goobledigook in 4.1.11 and 4.2.6. So, Ritlabs broke something. )-: -- Best regards, MFPA He's an environmentalist - his arguments are 100% recycled Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:40:24 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I tried them in TB 4.2.6 but unfortunataly my Windows doesn't speak Thai. I think if you'd tried 4.0.28 (which is not possible, but hey), your Windows would have spoken Thai. Yes, it does. I never bothered experimenting with exotic character sets, because I don't speak those languages anyway. When I tried your messages again the Subject did show Thai characters. Nothing recognizable as such in the message body though. I'm can only speculate about the cause but it may have something to do with how TB interprets the Content-Type: header line. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello Arjan, On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:27:57 +0200 GMT (07/Jul/09, 17:27 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: I tried them in TB 4.2.6 but unfortunataly my Windows doesn't speak Thai. I think if you'd tried 4.0.28 (which is not possible, but hey), your Windows would have spoken Thai. AdG Yes, it does. I never bothered experimenting with exotic AdG character sets, because I don't speak those languages anyway. That's quite normal. AdG When I tried your messages again the Subject did show Thai AdG characters. Nothing recognizable as such in the message body AdG though. Yes, the subject displays correctly, I forgot to mention that. So TB! finds the font. AdG I'm can only speculate about the cause but it may have something AdG to do with how TB interprets the Content-Type: header line. Yes. This worked correctly in 4.0.x and is broken in 4.1.x. Thanks for your confirmations. I have sent a PM to Max ans Stef, as my assingment is due on Saturday but I don't even know what I have to do... -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello MFPA, On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:07:02 +0100 GMT (07/Jul/09, 17:07 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: M Just to check, here's screenshots of TB! 4.0.38 M viewing your emails:- M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774827/splendid_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774826/LogisticsDigest_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774825/wong_eml.GIF.html Thanks for that. I could download splendid and wong, but the system called me a bot when I tried LogisticsDigest. M The system should wash its mouth with soapy water! I've been called worse, though. Please send me the gif files by PM, I will upload them on my website so that people can see what they should look like - not every reads Thai. M On their way. In GMX classified you mail as spam. Is there any more soapy water around? I confirm splendid and wong are displayed as they should (and do in 4.0.28) but they display as goobledigook in 4.1.11 and 4.2.6. So, Ritlabs broke something. M )-: Yeah. I do think they read here but am not sure. I mentioned the same on TBBETA, but no replies, so I PM'ed them. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:02:33 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thanks for your confirmations. I have sent a PM to Max ans Stef, as my assingment is due on Saturday but I don't even know what I have to do... You might try to install version 4.0.x seperately and then apply the unix mbx export-import trick I explained before, just for the messages that are currently important and/or urgent to you. Otherwise I wouldn't know how to get out of this situation... Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello MFPA, On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:13:33 +0100 GMT (08/Jul/09, 9:13 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: You might try to install version 4.0.x seperately and then apply the unix mbx export-import trick I explained before, just for the messages that are currently important and/or urgent to you. M If just a small number of messages, probably just exporting to .msg M files would do it for him. I am sure it is a small oversight somewhere and the developers could fix it in 5 minutes, but they haven't even replied. Running two seperate versions of the TheBat! on the same machine which will require some registry fiddling. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Tuesday 7 July 2009 at 5:25:51 PM, in mid:kft65552m37uvvb8hpcmhio75itbf22...@linu.demon.nl, Arjan de Groot wrote: You might try to install version 4.0.x seperately and then apply the unix mbx export-import trick I explained before, just for the messages that are currently important and/or urgent to you. If just a small number of messages, probably just exporting to .msg files would do it for him. -- Best regards, MFPA Two rights do not make a wrong. They make an airplane. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Wednesday 8 July 2009 at 3:28:13 AM, in mid:1986062537.20090708092...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Running two seperate versions of the TheBat! on the same machine which will require some registry fiddling. Or maybe run the second one under sandboxie or similar? -- Best regards, MFPA Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalising animal. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:28:13 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Running two seperate versions of the TheBat! on the same machine which will require some registry fiddling. workarounds seem always to be a dime a dozen (and often not worth that much), but a fix is more like a hen's tooth. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.7.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 07:05:25 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AdG I don't know about your set-up, but in my situation I would try AdG this: Thanks for your idea, but it seems a bit unfeasable: Yes, I suspected it already. When I used TB on a regular basis, I filtered incoming mail directly to unix files and kept my database small. Have you tried the messages? Which TB! version are you using, and how do they display on your side? I tried them in TB 4.2.6 but unfortunataly my Windows doesn't speak Thai. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello Arjan, On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:08:39 +0200 GMT (06/Jul/09, 20:08 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: Have you tried the messages? Which TB! version are you using, and how do they display on your side? AdG I tried them in TB 4.2.6 but unfortunataly my Windows doesn't speak AdG Thai. I think if you'd tried 4.0.28 (which is not possible, but hey), your Windows would have spoken Thai. Unless it's a Win98. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Monday 6 July 2009 at 5:40:24 PM, in mid:298147479.20090706234...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I think if you'd tried 4.0.28 (which is not possible, but hey), your Windows would have spoken Thai. Unless it's a Win98. I see all three here. Well, I think I do. I don't know what the Thai characters should look like, but at least I get no squares or question marks. (-: Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP. -- Best regards, MFPA Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalising animal. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:26:46 +0100 GMT (07/Jul/09, 0:26 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: I think if you'd tried 4.0.28 (which is not possible, but hey), your Windows would have spoken Thai. Unless it's a Win98. M I see all three here. M Well, I think I do. I don't know what the Thai characters should look M like, but at least I get no squares or question marks. (-: M Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP. Thank you, it confirms my theory that it was still OK in 4.0.x. Bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654 -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Monday 6 July 2009 at 7:13:15 PM, in mid:203765731.20090707011...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thank you, it confirms my theory that it was still OK in 4.0.x. Bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654 Just to check, here's screenshots of TB! 4.0.38 viewing your emails:- http://rapidshare.de/files/47774827/splendid_eml.GIF.html http://rapidshare.de/files/47774826/LogisticsDigest_eml.GIF.html http://rapidshare.de/files/47774825/wong_eml.GIF.html -- Best regards, MFPA Yellow snow is not lemon flavoured Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Montag, 6. Juli 2009 at 15:08, Arjan de Groot wrote: When I used TB on a regular basis, I filtered incoming mail directly to unix files and kept my database small. If The Bat! would be able to display UNIX .mbx Files in a Folder, i would do that too - that would be a Feature, even to read my System Mails from the Servers... -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.2.7.1 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM - Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 2.2.4 r47978 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:18:55 +0100 GMT (07/Jul/09, 2:18 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Thank you, it confirms my theory that it was still OK in 4.0.x. Bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654 M Just to check, here's screenshots of TB! 4.0.38 viewing your emails:- M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774827/splendid_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774826/LogisticsDigest_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774825/wong_eml.GIF.html Thanks for that. I could download splendid and wong, but the system called me a bot when I tried LogisticsDigest. Please send me the gif files by PM, I will upload them on my website so that people can see what they should look like - not every reads Thai. I confirm splendid and wong are displayed as they should (and do in 4.0.28) but they display as goobledigook in 4.1.11 and 4.2.6. So, Ritlabs broke something. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello MFPA, On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:54:30 +0100 GMT (04/Jul/09, 1:54 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Attached a sample message. M I didn't receive it, although I thought this list didn't accept M attachments. Sorry, my bad. 1.) Here is a message that looks beautiful in 4.0.28 but is gooledigook in both 4.1.11 and 4.2.6: http://www.tf-web.gmxhome.de/TheBat/LogisticsDigest.EML 2.) This one is note readible in 4.1.11 but good in 4.2.6: http://www.tf-web.gmxhome.de/TheBat/Wong.EML 3.) This one reads good in 4.1.11 and 4.2.6, even though it has the same charset windows-874 as message 3.: http://www.tf-web.gmxhome.de/TheBat/splendid.eml Of course, the different TB! versions are on different computers (office, home, uni), and I don't have all email on every computer, and I keep forgetting to MIME-forward them. That's why I don't have a report for every mail for every version. None of the computers have Viewer Profiles set up. I tried that, but it didn't help. None of the computers has the XLAT table for TIS-620, but it displays well in 4.0.28 and 4.2.6 (why not in 4.1.11?) Problem is that the first message (and other messages alike) do not display correctly above 4.0.28. Is there a way to downgrade? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:17:36 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Problem is that the first message (and other messages alike) do not display correctly above 4.0.28. Is there a way to downgrade? I don't know about your set-up, but in my situation I would try this: 1) Add a new Virtual Folder and configure it to contain _all_ messages in your database. 2) Export all messages from this Virtual Folder into 1 big Unix message file. 3) Delete all messages from Virtual Folder. 4) Install TB! version 4.0.xx over 4.2.x. 5) Import Unix file into the Inbox of re-installed 4.0.x 6) Refilter the Inbox manually, to return all messages to their folders. You should make a back-up before, and your mileage may vary, but to me this seems to be the best method to avoid compatibility problems. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello Arjan, On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:11:12 +0200 GMT (05/Jul/09, 0:11 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: Problem is that the first message (and other messages alike) do not display correctly above 4.0.28. Is there a way to downgrade? AdG I don't know about your set-up, but in my situation I would try AdG this: Thanks for your idea, but it seems a bit unfeasable: AdG 1) Add a new Virtual Folder and configure it to contain _all_ AdG messages in your database. That would be a very big VF, with mails from 13 accoutns and over 100 folders. AdG 2) Export all messages from this Virtual Folder into 1 big Unix AdG message file. That would be several GB big. AdG 3) Delete all messages from Virtual Folder. AdG 4) Install TB! version 4.0.xx over 4.2.x. AdG 5) Import Unix file into the Inbox of re-installed 4.0.x AdG 6) Refilter the Inbox manually, to return all messages to their AdG folders. That would be hours worth of manual work. AdG You should make a back-up before, and your mileage may vary, but to AdG me this seems to be the best method to avoid compatibility AdG problems. Have you tried the messages? Which TB! version are you using, and how do they display on your side? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello List, On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:50:28 +0700 GMT (03/Jul/09, 0:50 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF OK, I found it: The machine on which it works uses TB! v. 4.0.28.x. TF Two machines who don't display Thai letters were using 4.1.x. I have TF now upgraded one machine to the latest 4.2.x, but it still doesn't TF work. :-( Attached a sample message. If you can or cannot render it correctly, please state the TB! version. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Friday 3 July 2009 at 3:57:26 PM, in mid:938480927.20090703215...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Attached a sample message. I didn't receive it, although I thought this list didn't accept attachments. -- Best regards, MFPA Always borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello List, On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:49:09 +0700 GMT (21/Jun/09, 23:49 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. VA I hope that I did not get you wrong. What about this: VA - create a new viewer layout for Windows-874: VA Options|Prefs…|Viewer/Editor Profiles VA - assign the regarding font to the new profile: VA Options|Prefs…|Profile Layout VA = choose the new profile in the list box at the top of the dialog VA = assign the font to all the parts of the message VA After this is done, the new Viewer/Editor Profile should automatically VA be used for Windows-874 encoded messages. TF I did that, thanks. UTF-8 displays correctly now, Windows-874 still TF does not. Hm. TF Still doesn't work on one machine, but no problem on the other. OK, I found it: The machine on which it works uses TB! v. 4.0.28.x. Two machines who don't display Thai letters were using 4.1.x. I have now upgraded one machine to the latest 4.2.x, but it still doesn't work. :-( I believe there is a problem downgrading? I would like to downgrade one machine to 4.0.28 and see whether it works again. So far, it looks like something was changed between 4.0.x and 4.1.x. By the way, the subject lines still display correctly in the higher versions, but the body doesn't. TF In addition, I received another message in Thai this morning, encoded TF in in TIS-620. Since TB! does not know this encoding, it did not TF display correctly. However, I found that XLAT table: TF http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/trin/thairef/tis620-iso10646.html TF http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/trin/thairef/tis-620.gif TF How do I import this into TB!? How do I import TIS-620? It's an important question, now that I have started with my PhD, conducted in Thai language. TF Having just started with my PhD studies, Thai language support in TF emails is crucial for me and I will have to abandon TheBat! if it TF doesn't work. As much as that would hurt my feelings. I am attaching a sample email, which I can read on the machines running 4.0.28.x but not on the ones with a later TB! version. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello List, On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:53:12 +0700 GMT (17/Jun/09, 8:53 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. VA I hope that I did not get you wrong. What about this: VA - create a new viewer layout for Windows-874: VA Options|Prefs…|Viewer/Editor Profiles VA - assign the regarding font to the new profile: VA Options|Prefs…|Profile Layout VA = choose the new profile in the list box at the top of the dialog VA = assign the font to all the parts of the message VA After this is done, the new Viewer/Editor Profile should automatically VA be used for Windows-874 encoded messages. TF I did that, thanks. UTF-8 displays correctly now, Windows-874 still TF does not. Hm. Still doesn't work on one machine, but no problem on the other. :-( TF In addition, I received another message in Thai this morning, encoded TF in in TIS-620. Since TB! does not know this encoding, it did not TF display correctly. However, I found that XLAT table: TF http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/trin/thairef/tis620-iso10646.html TF http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/trin/thairef/tis-620.gif TF How do I import this into TB!? I tried to find the Xlat table for download, and the best link I found was http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg43606.html Thanks but I already have that one. I now need the .xlat file for TIS-620, and Google isn't helpful. Does anybody have an idea or link how down download it? Having just started with my PhD studies, Thai language support in emails is crucial for me and I will have to abandon TheBat! if it doesn't work. As much as that would hurt my feelings. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:39:24 +0700 GMT (15/Jun/09, 21:39 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. On my work computer, it doesn't. I checked XLAT tables and all settings under Viewer/Editor, I just cannot find where to assign the font for this charset. Mails with this charset are displayed with the same font as English messages, which results in an illegible gibbledigook. Where do I set the font to be used for each charset? TIA. t Same version of windows??? TF XP. I think I have SP3 everywhere now. TF But what I am asking for is the setting in The Bat!. Anybody? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
[Reply to: »Thomas Fernandez« · 2009-06-16 · 20:20 h (CET)] Moin, Thomas! I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. Where do I set the font to be used for each charset? But what I am asking for is the setting in The Bat!. Anybody? I hope that I did not get you wrong. What about this: - create a new viewer layout for Windows-874: Options|Prefs…|Viewer/Editor Profiles - assign the regarding font to the new profile: Options|Prefs…|Profile Layout = choose the new profile in the list box at the top of the dialog = assign the font to all the parts of the message After this is done, the new Viewer/Editor Profile should automatically be used for Windows-874 encoded messages. Please correct me if I am wrong. Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | q...@ahrendt.net Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.2.6 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.« – Douglas Adams (* March 11, 1952; † May 11, 2001) Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:39:24 +0700 GMT (15/Jun/09, 21:39 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. On my work computer, it doesn't. I checked XLAT tables and all settings under Viewer/Editor, I just cannot find where to assign the font for this charset. Mails with this charset are displayed with the same font as English messages, which results in an illegible gibbledigook. Where do I set the font to be used for each charset? TIA. t Same version of windows??? TF XP. I think I have SP3 everywhere now. TF But what I am asking for is the setting in The Bat!. Anybody? Options / Preferences / Viewer-editor / Profile Layout First pick a Profile (Thai?) Then you will see all kinds of items i.e Regular Text, background etc. in a drop down. There is a font selection under that so you can set the font for each and totally control that profile's layout I hope that helps -- Rick The art of being wise is knowing what to overlook. - William James v4.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello Volker, On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:44:45 +0200 GMT (17/Jun/09, 1:44 +0700 GMT), Volker Ahrendt wrote: I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. VA I hope that I did not get you wrong. What about this: VA - create a new viewer layout for Windows-874: VA Options|Prefs…|Viewer/Editor Profiles VA - assign the regarding font to the new profile: VA Options|Prefs…|Profile Layout VA = choose the new profile in the list box at the top of the dialog VA = assign the font to all the parts of the message VA After this is done, the new Viewer/Editor Profile should automatically VA be used for Windows-874 encoded messages. I did that, thanks. UTF-8 displays correctly now, Windows-874 still does not. Hm. In addition, I received another message in Thai this morning, encoded in in TIS-620. Since TB! does not know this encoding, it did not display correctly. However, I found that XLAT table: http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/trin/thairef/tis620-iso10646.html http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/trin/thairef/tis-620.gif How do I import this into TB!? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello Rick, On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:52:04 -0400 GMT (17/Jun/09, 1:52 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. R Options / Preferences / Viewer-editor / Profile Layout R First pick a Profile (Thai?) For some reason, I actually had this choice in a drop-down menu. R Then you will see all kinds of items i.e Regular Text, background etc. R in a drop down. There is a font selection under that so you can set R the font for each and totally control that profile's layout As I just wrote to Volker, UTF-8 is now displayed correctly, but Windows-874 still isn't. Also, TIS-620 isn't. R I hope that helps Thanks for your effort, we are getting there. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello Thomas, Monday, June 15, 2009, 8:49:55 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. On my work computer, it doesn't. I checked XLAT tables and all settings under Viewer/Editor, I just cannot find where to assign the font for this charset. Mails with this charset are displayed with the same font as English messages, which results in an illegible gibbledigook. Where do I set the font to be used for each charset? TIA. Same version of windows??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails is foreign languages
Hello tracer, On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:15:13 +0700 GMT (15/Jun/09, 13:15 +0700 GMT), tracer wrote: I know that I assigned a font for Thai to TB! a long time ago. It works on my home computer, charset Windows-874 is displayed correctly. On my work computer, it doesn't. I checked XLAT tables and all settings under Viewer/Editor, I just cannot find where to assign the font for this charset. Mails with this charset are displayed with the same font as English messages, which results in an illegible gibbledigook. Where do I set the font to be used for each charset? TIA. t Same version of windows??? XP. I think I have SP3 everywhere now. But what I am asking for is the setting in The Bat!. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
