Re: Out of memory error
Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 6:06:11 PM, you wrote: > So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes Far too large for email. Even if it works, it will take for ever to send and probabky bounce anyway because it exceeds the mmessagae size limit of the recipient's mailbox. Put it on an FTP server Adrian Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello David, JSL> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 you wrote: DE>> Hi Jack, JSL>>> Hello Thomas, JSL>>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 you wrote: TF Hello David, TF On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:34:18 +0200 GMT (23-Aug-17, 12:34 +0700 GMT), TF David Earl wrote: > Hi Jack, JSL>> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL>> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL>> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL>> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? > My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. TF [snip] TF Before we take any guesses, may I kindly suggest we wait for him to TF advise the file size. JSL>>> My apologies to all for not including pertinent information in the original JSL>>> email. It was sent in haste. JSL>>> So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. JSL>>> The computer's (Asus laptop) memory size is 8 GB. JSL>>> OS is Win 10 Home 64 bit. JSL>>> She is running TB! v6.0.12. JSL>>> I have not yet tried to duplicate emailing this file from my desktop but will do JSL>>> so soon. DE>> It was actually not so much of a guess, Jack, because I have seen the DE>> indicated error message before. I suggested the solution that resolved DE>> my problem. DE>> As far as guesses go, _*assuming*_ that the attachment file size is DE>> the problem is also a guess. Personally, I've sent files that were DE>> over a gigabyte through TheBat and, on a 32-bit system, the DE>> theoretical limit is 4 GB. I haven't checked on the 64-bit limit. Said DE>> size has nothing to do with RAM. DE>> The general cause of problems with attachment sizes are the limits DE>> placed on accounts by the ISP, especially when free accounts are used, DE>> not email clients. Those limits cannot cause problems until the DE>> message reaches the ISP's servers and can be examined by them. Such a DE>> problem should not affect the local computer. JSL> I halfway suspected something like this and since we both have free email JSL> accounts through Charter (now Spectrum) you're probably right. If in fact it is JSL> Spectrum's doing then you would think the error message would be a lot more JSL> enlightening to the customer. An error message that explained it's raison d'etre JSL> might plant the idea that perhaps a paid account would be more to the customer's JSL> liking. JSL> Thanks for your input. I started programming systems using punch cards, through 7-bit mini-computers up to Windows XP & Vista. The error handling has not been improved. In fact, encapsulation thanks to (D)COM and object-orientation have (in my experience) only "muddied the waters", because of the replacement of low-level error messages with other error messages in the outer encapsulation layers. The fact is that like writing documentation, error handling does not pay the bills for software companies and very few are willing to trade on the intangibles like: good will, good customer education and so on; potentially created by good documentation and error handling efforts. The lack of faith in such intangibles is one reason why I burned-out and traded programming for translating languages as a career path. -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello David, On Thursday, August 24, 2017 you wrote: DE> Hi Jack, JSL>> Hello Thomas, JSL>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 you wrote: TF>>> Hello David, TF>>> On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:34:18 +0200 GMT (23-Aug-17, 12:34 +0700 GMT), TF>>> David Earl wrote: Hi Jack, JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. TF>>> [snip] TF>>> Before we take any guesses, may I kindly suggest we wait for him to TF>>> advise the file size. JSL>> My apologies to all for not including pertinent information in the original JSL>> email. It was sent in haste. JSL>> So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. JSL>> The computer's (Asus laptop) memory size is 8 GB. JSL>> OS is Win 10 Home 64 bit. JSL>> She is running TB! v6.0.12. JSL>> I have not yet tried to duplicate emailing this file from my desktop but will do JSL>> so soon. DE> It was actually not so much of a guess, Jack, because I have seen the DE> indicated error message before. I suggested the solution that resolved DE> my problem. DE> As far as guesses go, _*assuming*_ that the attachment file size is DE> the problem is also a guess. Personally, I've sent files that were DE> over a gigabyte through TheBat and, on a 32-bit system, the DE> theoretical limit is 4 GB. I haven't checked on the 64-bit limit. Said DE> size has nothing to do with RAM. DE> The general cause of problems with attachment sizes are the limits DE> placed on accounts by the ISP, especially when free accounts are used, DE> not email clients. Those limits cannot cause problems until the DE> message reaches the ISP's servers and can be examined by them. Such a DE> problem should not affect the local computer. I halfway suspected something like this and since we both have free email accounts through Charter (now Spectrum) you're probably right. If in fact it is Spectrum's doing then you would think the error message would be a lot more enlightening to the customer. An error message that explained it's raison d'etre might plant the idea that perhaps a paid account would be more to the customer's liking. Thanks for your input. -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello Thomas, JSL> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 you wrote: TF>> Hello David, TF>> On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:34:18 +0200 GMT (23-Aug-17, 12:34 +0700 GMT), TF>> David Earl wrote: >>> Hi Jack, JSL Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? >>> My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. TF>> [snip] TF>> Before we take any guesses, may I kindly suggest we wait for him to TF>> advise the file size. JSL> My apologies to all for not including pertinent information in the original JSL> email. It was sent in haste. JSL> So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. JSL> The computer's (Asus laptop) memory size is 8 GB. JSL> OS is Win 10 Home 64 bit. JSL> She is running TB! v6.0.12. JSL> I have not yet tried to duplicate emailing this file from my desktop but will do JSL> so soon. It was actually not so much of a guess, Jack, because I have seen the indicated error message before. I suggested the solution that resolved my problem. As far as guesses go, _*assuming*_ that the attachment file size is the problem is also a guess. Personally, I've sent files that were over a gigabyte through TheBat and, on a 32-bit system, the theoretical limit is 4 GB. I haven't checked on the 64-bit limit. Said size has nothing to do with RAM. The general cause of problems with attachment sizes are the limits placed on accounts by the ISP, especially when free accounts are used, not email clients. Those limits cannot cause problems until the message reaches the ISP's servers and can be examined by them. Such a problem should not affect the local computer. -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello MAU, On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, >> So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. M> Oh! Come on! It should be illegal to send such a file as an attachment. M> I kindly suggest you use https://www.filemail.com/ M> It is free. You upload the file and, when done, an email is sent to M> the intended recipient. Then, he/she has 7 days to download it. Thanks Miguel. Actually we copied the file into Dropbox and sent the Dropbox link to the recipient. I'll try Filemail next time. -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello Jack, > So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. Oh! Come on! It should be illegal to send such a file as an attachment. I kindly suggest you use https://www.filemail.com/ It is free. You upload the file and, when done, an email is sent to the intended recipient. Then, he/she has 7 days to download it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v7.4.16 My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 you wrote: TF> Hello David, TF> On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:34:18 +0200 GMT (23-Aug-17, 12:34 +0700 GMT), TF> David Earl wrote: >> Hi Jack, JSL>>> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL>>> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL>>> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL>>> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? >> My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. TF> [snip] TF> Before we take any guesses, may I kindly suggest we wait for him to TF> advise the file size. My apologies to all for not including pertinent information in the original email. It was sent in haste. So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. The computer's (Asus laptop) memory size is 8 GB. OS is Win 10 Home 64 bit. She is running TB! v6.0.12. I have not yet tried to duplicate emailing this file from my desktop but will do so soon. -- Regards, Jack LaRosa Central Alabama USA Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Windows, Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello David, On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:34:18 +0200 GMT (23-Aug-17, 12:34 +0700 GMT), David Earl wrote: > Hi Jack, JSL>> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL>> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL>> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL>> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? > My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. [snip] Before we take any guesses, may I kindly suggest we wait for him to advise the file size. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16.33 (ALPHA) under Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? Ok, what you'll need to do is find the Outbox directory used by TB on your local machine. It should contain two files, a Message.TBB and a "Message" file with either a TBI or a TBN extension. (You might want to enable the display of file extensions for this, because Windows deactivates the display of extensions by default, under the assumption that users are too dumb to understand the meaning of file extensions.) The TBB file(s) are the mail database(s). The TBI or TBN file(s) are the index files. I would suggest renaming the TBI or TBN file, say from "Message.TBN" to "OldMessage.TBN". (Essentially, save the file just in case you need to put it back, right?) Then, start TB. When it finds that the Message.TBI/TBN file is missing, that should trigger a re-index process. I would also recommend against sending anything from the Desktop. It is not a real directory per se. It is a virtual directory that is attached under the directory used by Windows for user accounts (as are all of the "My..." directories). User account directories are specially protected against user intervention/"interference". That special protection may have interfered with the process of encoding the MP4 for transmission. It's better to place files in directories that have been created by the user (directly under the drive partition, such as a D:\Upload directory). -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. Therefore recommendations for external programs, apps and websites will not help. Instead, the problem is that the indices used by TheBat have become corrupted and TB needs to be told to re-create them. As long as the corrupted index files exist, it will spit out the out of memory error upon start up. I'm not sure if there is a flag that can be set using the command line, when starting TB from the command line, or if one or more of the files in your directory structure will have to be deleted (to force the corresponding mail database to be re-indexed). Fortunately, TB keeps the indices external to the mail databases...I just don't know which extension those index files use. My recommendation is to wait for someone with such knowledge to respond and I hope this message has gotten the conversation going in the direction of a real solution. Hopefully, you know your own directory structure well enough to know which directory contains the Outbox or Sent directory with the corrupted index. -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 9:10:58 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? Have a look at: https://www.howtogeek.com/133761/the-best-free-programs-and-online-services-for-sending-and-sharing-large-files/ I use box.com. Maximum file size is 250 Mb for the free account. https://community.box.com/t5/How-to-Guides-for-Managing/Maximum-File-Size-Limit-for-Uploads-to-Box/ta-p/307 -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...All I ask for is the opportunity to prove that money can't make me happy. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 9:10:58 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? Have a look at: https://www.howtogeek.com/133761/the-best-free-programs-and-online-services-for-sending-and-sharing-large-files/ -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...All I ask for is the opportunity to prove that money can't make me happy. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello Jack, On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:10:58 -0500 GMT (23-Aug-17, 06:10 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new > email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! > but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? How big is the file? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16.33 (ALPHA) under Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of Memory?
Hallo Susanne, On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:27:09 -0800GMT (30-1-2009, 6:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: S over the last few days, I started getting frequent out of S memory errors. My first response was to upgrade to the latest version 4.1.11, but I don't know whether your license allows for that. S Any ideas what it could be? When do you get the error, with a specific account, with a specific action? When was the last time you did a full purge and compress for your complete message base? -- Groetjes, Roelof there are three things that come next, uh four... http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgphEjcnPoy5b.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of Memory?
Hi, Friday, January 30, 2009, 12:57:21 AM,ro...@otten.tv wrote: My first response was to upgrade to the latest version 4.1.11, but I don't know whether your license allows for that. I'm not sure if it will. Have to check into it. TB has been rolling along smoothly up till now, so I haven't checked into the latest updates. When do you get the error, with a specific account, with a specific action? I've noticed it related to trying to print a message. TB stops responding, and then gives the out of memory' error whenever I click on anything. When was the last time you did a full purge and compress for your complete message base? I have TB set to purge and compress at shutdown, so it's been very recently. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 4.0.38 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of Memory?
On 30/01/2009 09:37:35, Susanne wrote: My first response was to upgrade to the latest version 4.1.11, but I don't know whether your license allows for that. I'm not sure if it will. Have to check into it. TB has been rolling along smoothly up till now, so I haven't checked into the latest updates. When do you get the error, with a specific account, with a specific action? I've noticed it related to trying to print a message. TB stops responding, and then gives the out of memory' error whenever I click on anything. When was the last time you did a full purge and compress for your complete message base? I have TB set to purge and compress at shutdown, so it's been very recently. If you've noticed it whilst trying to print a message, I wonder if your 'temp' folder is full of redundant files and needs clearing out. I had a similar problem earlier this week with another program that was falling over 'out of memory'. My temp folder was full of 'tmp' files. I'm guessing that when TB is printing it spools to the temp folder. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.1.9 and AntispamSniper 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of Memory?
Hi, Friday, January 30, 2009, 8:23:37 AM,bar...@kentra.co.uk wrote: If you've noticed it whilst trying to print a message, I wonder if your 'temp' folder is full of redundant files and needs clearing out. Thanks, but that wasn't the case. I'd already checked that, because it was the only thing that came up when I googled the error. I'd just restarted the computer and there was hardly anything in the Temp files. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 4.0.38 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of Memory/Grid index out of range
Hi Alain On Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 09:09:51GMT +0100 (which was 2:09 AM where I live) Alain de Gevigney wrote and made these points on the subject of Out of Memory/Grid index out of range: Do you check your index files (.Tbi) ? A sign of a corrupt index can be an error when trying to backup, in this case try to delete it and restart The Bat!. This may have been it. I went in and deleted all the tbi files and haven't had problems since then so hope that was it. Thanks. -- Best regards, Kitty ^,,^mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. -- Abraham Lincoln -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Out of Memory/Grid index out of range
Hi, On Thursday, February 7, 2002, 4:53:05 AM, Kitty wrote: (I am using Windows 2000 in case it matters). Any thoughts? If you weren't using Windows 2000 I would have said your system is running low on GDI resources. Yet, AFAIK Windows 2000 doesn't have GDI limits. I ran into the same problem and some other software was the culprit (Sensiva) and the Bat the victim. I think under W2k you can use the Task Manager to monitor GDI resources, try to see if they are at a limit. Sorry, some W2k user might give you better instructions. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/37 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Out of Memory/Grid index out of range
Hello Kitty, On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 at 21:53:05 [GMT -0600] (which was 04:53 where I live) you wrote: K Originally posted to the beta list since I thought this might be a K beta issue. K I am getting a lot of out of memory messages. K (I am using Windows 2000 in case it matters). Any thoughts? How many memory is there on your computer, how many free ? Do you purge and compress your folders ? Messages.tbb file size ? Do you check your index files (.Tbi) ? A sign of a corrupt index can be an error when trying to backup, in this case try to delete it and restart The Bat!. -- Regards, Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.54 Beta/36 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Out of Memory
Hallo Nebula, On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:06:02 +0100 GMT (16/12/2000, 18:06 +0800 GMT), Nebula wrote: N I don't know what had happened, but I know how to solve ... ;-) Such is software development. If I always knew what I was doing when I am doing things... anybody ever heard of Phrogs (OOP developers only)? -- Cheers, Thomas. 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi tracer, you wrote on Thursday, October 28, 1999, 20:34:14: Is anybody able to replicate this? (I already sent a bug report) Ray Ack here too! PII 64 MB of RAM. 7 MB exe file. Try dragging the big attachment.. Very interesting. It does not crash then. Also, attaching the file went much quicker, almost instantaneous. I wonder why using the menu crashes and is so much slower. Ralf. -- BackMagic: Disaster Recovery Cloning für Windows 9x http://www.backmagic.de -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi all, On Friday, October 29, 1999, 2:32:56 AM (-5 GMT), tracer scribbled: Ali Sending attachments is discouraged on this list. Your message Ali alone is the equivalent of 10-15 others on average. Ali The nature of your attachment and the fact that you sent it in the Ali first place shows your different bandwidth concerns to the rest of us Ali which we don't share. Rubbish if you had read the various emails you would have seen that I myself am absolutely against huge attachments being send via mail. Actually I read the mail, but sometimes I fail to remember names associated with points made unless I'm well acquainted with the individual such as Steve or Leif or Mark. My apologies for the misunderstanding. One picture is worth more then a 1000 words or whatever the proverb says so it likely saves space... The fact that the large email was going proves that there doesnt have to be the problem sending large files with the bat. That its unwanted practise is a different matter and no-way would I send anyone a huge email like that. I couldnt as my server would bounce it back to me!! But as I mentioned I always drag and drop, never use the menus. It's now my turn to say rubbish. Utter rubbish at that. :))) Simply saying that you have no problems sending large attachments using drag and drop to attach the file instead of the add attachments dialog routine, and also adding that you testes and successfully did this with attachments up to 35MB in size would've been just as effective. Why would you think otherwise? 2. I was testing the complaint, confirmation was requested, so I tested it , made the jpeg and then canceled the 33mb or whatever sized email... OK, my apologies then. ;) I still resent the attachment. Maybe if everyone decided to do what you consider is more effective than a thousand words and start attaching captured images and posting them as attachments to illustrate points then you'd see why I'm upset. BUT, I still think as mentioned by myself and by others that the BAT leaks memory / resources somewhere as if you have it open for a while and close / open various things you have a very good chance to slowly freeze the BAT. But I donot think size of attachment itself is the problem. All could've been communicated without the attachment. You know, TB wouldn't even display the .jpg image, so I saved it remotely and opened it only to be surprised at what it was. It didn't help really. :) -- Regards, -=Ali=- "The Americans have need of the telephone, but we do not. We have plenty of messenger boys." - Sir William Preece, chief engineer of the British Post Office, 1876 *---* Running The Bat! v1.36 in Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 5) *---*
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Friday, October 29, 1999, 3:15:03 AM, Lionel wrote: Except some users can't do it: Forbidden by the agreement between the ISP and them. It's my case : Cable user in France, forbidden to put up any sort of a server, FTP, HTTP nor anything other. If I want to put an FTP server on my cable connection, it costs 2000 FRF/month, not 200FF/month any more (200 FRF = 32 USD) Most ISPs give you server space so you can put files up for others to get in case you need it. They also offer HTTP most of the time which is also a better protocol than SMTP/POP to move mail. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Friday, October 29, 1999, 3:15:03 AM, Lionel wrote: Except some users can't do it: Forbidden by the agreement between the ISP and them. It's my case : Cable user in France, forbidden to put up any sort of a server, FTP, HTTP nor anything other. If I want to put an FTP server on my cable connection, it costs 2000 FRF/month, not 200FF/month any more (200 FRF = 32 USD) Most ISPs give you server space so you can put files up for others to get in case you need it. They also offer HTTP most of the time which is also a better protocol than SMTP/POP to move mail. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi Oliver, you wrote on Friday, October 29, 1999, 8:37:40 PM: RV Ack here too! PII 64 MB of RAM. 7 MB exe file. Seems to be a problem of 1.36. I certainly did it before, but now the error is reproducible with a 20 MB file on a 256 MB PIII. Hm. RB Oliver, how long does it take on your machine to attach that message (or RB until the error occurs)? Just for you I tried it again :-) I have no idea how I can ever compensate you for that :-) and found out it takes about 15 seconds before running out of memory. Hmm. Takes about 30 seconds here. Someone else mentioned that it does not happen when you attach the file via drag'n drop. Confirmed. Funny. Ralf. -- BackMagic: Disaster Recovery Cloning für Windows 9x http://www.backmagic.de
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Dear Ali, you wrote on Thursday, October 28, 1999, 00:59:59: [snip] And every person on the list who has any inkling of the standards just gnashed their teeth greatly. You are aware that a 9Mb attachment will most likely not be accepted by any point along the way? So it's perhaps deliberate sabotage? :)) :-) Well, then why it doesn't tell me "Buddy, this attachment will most likely not be accepted by any point along the way [OK] [Cancel]"? ;-) instead? Joking aside, I think this is a bug and it looks to me like there is memory not properly being released or there is some other kind of memory leak. Doesn't leave me with much trust in the general stability of the program. Ralf. -- BackMagic: Disaster Recovery Cloning für Windows 9x http://www.backmagic.de -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Dear Steve, you wrote on Thursday, October 28, 1999, 00:22:25: And every person on the list who has any inkling of the standards just gnashed their teeth greatly. You are aware that a 9Mb attachment will most likely not be accepted by any point along the way? I've done it before. Well, a 5 megs attachment went along it's way just fine. Why should some points reject a large message? Is there a general rule or a RFC or something like that that restricts the maximum size of a message? Ralf. -- BackMagic: Disaster Recovery Cloning für Windows 9x http://www.backmagic.de -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi Ralf, Thursday, October 28, 1999, 12:15:07 AM, you wrote: Is anybody able to replicate this? (I already sent a bug report) Ack here too! PII 64 MB of RAM. 7 MB exe file. Ray For my PGP key click below: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 3:15:07 PM, Ralf wrote: I open a new message, write a few lines and then try to attach a ZIP file of about 9 megabytes to that message. After some lengthy hard disk activity (at least 30 seconds) a message box saying "Out of memory!" comes up and the file is not being attached. And every person on the list who has any inkling of the standards just gnashed their teeth greatly. You are aware that a 9Mb attachment will most likely not be accepted by any point along the way? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi all, On Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 5:22:25 PM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled: I open a new message, write a few lines and then try to attach a ZIP file of about 9 megabytes to that message. After some lengthy hard disk activity (at least 30 seconds) a message box saying "Out of memory!" comes up and the file is not being attached. And every person on the list who has any inkling of the standards just gnashed their teeth greatly. You are aware that a 9Mb attachment will most likely not be accepted by any point along the way? So it's perhaps deliberate sabotage? :)) -- Regards, -=Ali=- I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? *---* Using The Bat! 1.36 on Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 5) *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
