Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello tracer, 25. marec 2002, 1:38:17, you wrote: t Seems to me a bug in the html viewer and maybe the translation t tables... We already concluded that it was server trouble... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] A Smith and Wesson beats four aces. -- Canada Bill Jones's Supplement Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Dwight A Corrin, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:40:44 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 8:40:44 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dwight A Corrin wrote: On Sunday, March 24, 2002, 7:12:18 PM, tracer wrote: is everybody using the FIXED or the 'proportional' HTML viewer results here arent the same... so, what's the difference?? try reading some html with it... both ways and if you cannot see the difference...I guess something else is wrong... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Robert Golovniov, On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:58:35 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 6:58:35 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Robert Golovniov wrote: Hello Melissa, Sunday, March 24, 2002, 10:57:23 PM, you wrote: MR ÿþ Wow! What I can see here are two Cyrillic characters. How come? Courtesy of Moldavian programmers I think and as you likely run Russian... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Jernej Simoni, On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:20:07 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 5:20:07 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jernej Simoni wrote: Hello tracer, 25. marec 2002, 1:38:17, you wrote: t Seems to me a bug in the html viewer and maybe the translation t tables... We already concluded that it was server trouble... meaning nobody has to fix it?? I donot believe its a server problem... if it was it either would have been noticed before or programmers know how to get around the problem.. Anyway who minds as user as the email program didnt do it before and now it does do it wrong, it should be possible to fix it... Also I wouldnt mind hearing from the programmers what they say the reason is... They know what they changed, all we can do is guess and essentially not use the feature. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
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Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Jernej, On Monday, March 25, 2002 at 6:10:51 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): JS BTW: Melissa, what about this message, I sent it as base64, maybe it JS won't get autoconverted back to 8bit. ÿþ No. It wasn't. But it's 'Content-Transfer-Encoding:' got lost on the way over here :-/ -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Learn from your parents' mistakes: Use a condom! Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jernej, @25 March 2002, 18:10:51 +0100 (17:10 UK time) Jernej Simoncic wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW: Melissa, what about this message, I sent it as base64, maybe it won't get autoconverted back to 8bit. ÿþ Oops! That base64 encoding didn't decode very well, did it? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator · TB! v1.60-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8n1+JOeQkq5KdzaARArT1AJ9Ss4IAfT68fzZ2XBJlBj/gYCudpwCg/wLM 0humhghB1843rPtr4T/KFro= =jYYU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Marck, On Monday, March 25, 2002 at 6:33:58 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): BTW: Melissa, what about this message, I sent it as base64, maybe it won't get autoconverted back to 8bit. ÿþ MDP Oops! That base64 encoding didn't decode very well, did it? I think this is an old problem we already have had on list, even with mails from you :-) Seems either the list server or some _really_ misconfigured MTA on the road strips the 'Content-Transfer-Encoding:' header for some reasons. I'd guess it's the list server while inspecting the mail for several rules not violated ... but that's just a guess -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) I thought maybe I've already gone crazy Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @25 March 2002, 18:52:26 +0100 (17:52 UK time) Peter Palmreuther wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Oops! That base64 encoding didn't decode very well, did it? I think this is an old problem we already have had on list, even with mails from you :-) Indeed. I remember. Seems either the list server or some _really_ misconfigured MTA on the road strips the 'Content-Transfer-Encoding:' header for some reasons. I'd guess it's the list server while inspecting the mail for several rules not violated ... but that's just a guess Gotta be the list server, hasn't it. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator · TB! v1.60-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8n2YnOeQkq5KdzaARAjV+AKCzicFzM3iINDYjT2uD6Pv7RehQeACeI3v+ 29sJmwPjM34VnTdvKABDcxc= =NnpY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, March 25, 2002, at 9:10:51 AM PST, Jernej Simoncic wrote: SGVsbG8gdHJhY2VyLA0KDQoyNS4gbWFyZWMgMjAwMiwgMTc6MzE6MzAsIHl I just get a bunch of that (above) from that message. No decoding at all here. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8n3ezjVbXUvsE8ukRAqosAKCSqQGyhWurKQP2XsGdkAW2GLBIiACbBw7C flH2wyA3JWWYz2dr3X+I9vg= =MtRl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Marck, 25. marec 2002, 18:33:58, you wrote: MDP Oops! That base64 encoding didn't decode very well, did it? Umm... No :( -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] A man should be greater than some of his parts. -- Mother Sigafoos's Observation Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, 25. marec 2002, 20:17:20, you wrote: MR I just get a bunch of that (above) from that message. No decoding at MR all here. Yep, that's what everybody's getting. Some stupid server removed `Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base-64` from the header... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] A surprise monetary windfall will be accompanied by an unexpected expense of the same amount. -- Law of Basic Money Dynamics Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 9:41:48 AM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: What happened? Can I adjust it to display HTML properly? I apologize for replying to my own message, but I want to add something I should have mentioned before... Sometimes, people using mailers like OE send multi-part/alternative messages - with separate plain text and HTML parts (but basically just a text message). Usually, TB! has no trouble displaying the HTML part if the message.htm tab is selected. I just noticed when I tried this on one such message, while the plain text portion displayed properly, the HTML part displayed only two non-standard characters (ÿþ) - but no message. This never happened with 1.53t, which always displayed HTML as expected (properly, minus external images, etc.). Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8niO8jVbXUvsE8ukRAocyAJ9IcgCQJfqXjijXoibFrOkNGusMUwCeI421 j1d36uJ7NO2PgCAkja06SpM= =L+x9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 11:06:53 AM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: I just noticed when I tried this on one such message, while the plain text portion displayed properly, the HTML part displayed only two non-standard characters (þ) - but no message. oops! ... gpg: Signature made 03/24/02 11:06:36 using DSA key ID FB04F2E9 gpg: BAD signature from Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently, only one of the two non-standard characters I tried to paste into the message showed up in my display just now when my message came back to me. It was a y with two dots over it. There should have been two characters within the above quoted parenthesis. Is this possibly another problem with my new TB! message viewer? Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8niUJjVbXUvsE8ukRAlkiAKC3KOUWMO1JApBagkdgYSjHsS1bOgCgjNex c7mntDnoAXCcOqeT7CTW7iA= =4p1o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 20:12:26, you wrote: MR Apparently, only one of the two non-standard characters I tried to MR paste into the message showed up in my display just now when my MR message came back to me. It was a y with two dots over it. There MR should have been two characters within the above quoted parenthesis. MR Is this possibly another problem with my new TB! message viewer? I can see both y with umlaut and the b-like character fine here... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] After you've mailed your last card, you will receive a card from someone you've overlooked. -- Miller's Christmas Card Rule Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, den 24 mars 2002, 20:12, you wrote: MR oops! ... MR gpg: Signature made 03/24/02 11:06:36 using DSA key ID FB04F2E9 MR gpg: BAD signature from Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] MR Apparently, only one of the two non-standard characters I tried to MR paste into the message showed up in my display just now when my MR message came back to me. It was a y with two dots over it. There MR should have been two characters within the above quoted parenthesis. MR Is this possibly another problem with my new TB! message viewer? MR Melissa I got both here the y with dots (ÿ) and combined b and p (þ) -- Lennart Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sunday, March 24 2002 at 11:12 AM PDT, you wrote: oops! ... gpg: Signature made 03/24/02 11:06:36 using DSA key ID FB04F2E9 gpg: BAD signature from Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm? I received a good signature... but then again, I saw both characters within the parentheses. gpg: Signature made 03/24/02 11:06:36 using DSA key ID FB04F2E9 gpg: Good signature from Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently, only one of the two non-standard characters I tried to paste into the message showed up in my display just now when my message came back to me. It was a y with two dots over it. There should have been two characters within the above quoted parenthesis. Yes, it appears that most of us see the two characters, but for some reason the copy on your System didn't show it... or deleted it for some reason, resulting in your failed signature. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 11:28:17 AM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: I can see both y with umlaut and the b-like character fine here... Well, here's another *very* strange twist... I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP signed it, and sent it to myself. The following (assuming all works properly here), is *all* that showed up when I received the mail into another account: - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The rest of the message was *gone*! Something really strange is happening with my TB! message display - for both plain text and HTML. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8niqWjVbXUvsE8ukRAvKYAJ45dPmHQYG1w85dGJzDRy+RS6kadgCeMZc3 XKPsCh7/SV+RqeTWemTjSFs= =WTu+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 11:36:03 AM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: Something really strange is happening with my TB! message display - for both plain text and HTML. Another peculiar twist... If I look at my sent messages in the sent folder, they look just fine. So then, I thought that the problem was just in my *incoming message* display. However - I just tried something else... I opened up my Becky mail client, and downloaded the same messages (the ones to TBUDL as well as the test message I sent to myself). I had the very same display problems reading the messages in Becky. This leads me to believe that it's not the plain text display in my TB! so much as it's a problem during transmission. Since this is not happening with all my messages, I'm really puzzled. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8ni7JjVbXUvsE8ukRAqs/AJoDbcJRjsluKq+mcosXi0jMy7BJyQCg5YpA loiHA5+DIsLl7s/cYXTMSZY= =l0gj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sunday, March 24 2002 at 11:36 AM PDT, you wrote: I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP signed it, and sent it to myself. The following (assuming all works properly here), is *all* that showed up when I received the mail into another account: - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The rest of the message was *gone*! Sounds like something is conflicting with your ability to copy to the clipboard. Hmmm? -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
@ 11:36:03 -0800 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Melissa Reese [MR] wrote these words of wisdom:... MR Well, here's another *very* strange twist... MR I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP MR signed it, and sent it to myself. The following (assuming all MR works properly here), is *all* that showed up when I received the MR mail into another account: Are you using the new RTV? What font is the RTV set to use? Perhaps the different font is unable to display the characters. If you're using the RTV with a font that's different from that of the editor, I suggest switching to the editor's font and check to see if the problem is still there. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.60 Win2K SP2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 20:53:58, you wrote: MR Since this is not happening with all my messages, I'm really puzzled. What if your server doesn't tolerate 8-bit characters in message body? Can you see these chars: ÿþ (this mail is QP encoded). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] The productivity, P, of a group of people is: P = N x T x (.55 - .5 x N x (N - 1) ) where N is the number of people in the group and T is the number of hours in a work period. -- Productivity Equation Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:13:33 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: What if your server doesn't tolerate 8-bit characters in message body? As far as I know, I've never had any trouble with displaying 8-bit characters. Can you see these chars: þ (this mail is QP encoded). I'm not sure how many characters you sent, but I see only *one* within the quotes. This one: þ Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8njiCjVbXUvsE8ukRAkzIAKC5W4k2ATEsm9o7pukaQrv7y+5RJACgmCJq /v2BCSn1QaZlPVg179k9WCo= =hV0n -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:11:55 PM PST, Allie C Martin wrote: Are you using the new RTV? No - I'm using the fixed width font viewer. What font is the RTV set to use? Perhaps the different font is unable to display the characters. If you're using the RTV with a font that's different from that of the editor, I suggest switching to the editor's font and check to see if the problem is still there. I just checked in the properties, and the RTV is set to display Courier New - which is the same font I use in my regular viewer. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8njm+jVbXUvsE8ukRAjQCAKDoOwzjauLtxqw0SyMfvRPGviVa6QCfQtWe 9PDqE8nmwqgc0OGjLQAEG64= =5gvM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
@ 15:11:55 -0500 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote these words of wisdom:... ACM Are you using the new RTV? After reading the rest of the thread as it came in I see that this couldn't be the problem. I see all of your messages in their entirety, with all the characters you wish to send. Since with both Becky and TB! you're seeing truncated versions, then it would appear to be a mail server issue. The last thing to do would be to send the characters in an unsigned text block and see if it's transmitted OK or is everything below and including the characters cutoff as well? -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA: TB! v1.60 (*) OS: Win2K SP2 _ Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 21:35:23, you wrote: Can you see these chars: þ (this mail is QP encoded). MR I'm not sure how many characters you sent, but I see only *one* within MR the quotes. This one: þ The umlaut-y was there, too... What do you see in source view (F9)? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] If a problem causes many meetings, the meetings eventually become more important than the problem. -- Hendrickson's Law Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:44:57 PM PST, Allie C Martin wrote: After reading the rest of the thread as it came in I see that this couldn't be the problem. Right. I see all of your messages in their entirety, with all the characters you wish to send. Since with both Becky and TB! you're seeing truncated versions, then it would appear to be a mail server issue. I'm beginning to wonder about this myself. I've been using this particular account for all my message lists for quite a while now, and this is the first time I'm having this sort of trouble. I'll contact them to see if they're having difficulties. The last thing to do would be to send the characters in an unsigned text block and see if it's transmitted OK or is everything below and including the characters cutoff as well? I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): ÿþ So far, it's been the y with the umlaut that has been disappearing on me (in addition to everything below it). The þ character seems to show up without any problems. Melissa -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:57:55 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: Can you see these chars: þ (this mail is QP encoded). MR I'm not sure how many characters you sent, but I see only *one* MR within the quotes. This one: þ The umlaut-y was there, too... What do you see in source view (F9)? In source view, I still only see the þ character. The umlaut-y character seems to be working sort of like a preemptive signature delimiter. I'm really becoming confused by this. Are you confused yet? :-) Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8nj7EjVbXUvsE8ukRAhCUAKDi89FWYdEbmdfXuchj9sCzIRQJjQCgwLnG ZRIMNr/60jQs7TPoyBiwv2M= =Kh06 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:57:23 -0800, Melissa Reese [MR] graced us with these comments: ... MR I'm beginning to wonder about this myself. I've been using this MR particular account for all my message lists for quite a while now, MR and this is the first time I'm having this sort of trouble. I'll MR contact them to see if they're having difficulties. Ok. Tell us how it goes. MR So far, it's been the y with the umlaut that has been MR disappearing on me (in addition to everything below it). The þ MR character seems to show up without any problems. I got them as well as your ending paragraph above just fine. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA: TB! v1.60 (*) OS: Win2K SP2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyeP0MACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KmlACfRWV6pAzyM/Z0U0Ba9jeeZhzE Wq4An0i697rxdQbxHSuPPd1wbHdopIq+ =ybVW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 22:02:20, you wrote: MR In source view, I still only see the þ character. The umlaut-y MR character seems to be working sort of like a preemptive signature MR delimiter. I'm really becoming confused by this. Are you confused MR yet? :-) OK, the message was converted from QP to 8bit by the list server, so I'm CCing this message directly to you. Check the one you get directly for the umlaut-y. ÿþ | ^^ | | yb | -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] You cannot have a baby in one month by getting nine women pregnant. -- Frisch's Law Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:57:23 PM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): [everything below that paragraph was missing in the message that came back to me - even the list trailers!] It seems that when *I* send a message with that umlaut-y character, what I get back is truncated after the character (like a signature delimiter). However... if someone else sends a message with that character (not quoted), that particular character is simply missing. And then... If someone else sends that character in within a quoted section, I receive it. But then!... if I turn around and try to reply to such a message - including the quoted characters - when I get it back on the list, that particular character is missing again! I'll contact the people at the mail server I'm using for these lists, but beyond something happening on their end, I have *no* idea what is happening here. And remember - the way I discovered this particular strange behavior is because of an OE generated multi-part/alternative-plain text/HTML message that, in the HTML display, only displayed the *two* peculiar characters - the umlaut-y and this: þ. So... I'm still wondering why my HTML viewing is acting strangely as well. In any even, I'll write to the people responsible for my email address/server, and I'll ask them about all this. I'll let you know what I hear from them. Thanks everyone for trying to help! Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8nkLSjVbXUvsE8ukRAnIIAKDA2LME1i1A8PejvS0fekFpvs5DYACfTuDi bhYtAChosO2HV7R2iMKoNtU= =A3pi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
This is what I see in Eudora Pro 5.1 At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as follows: -- Begin Quote -- I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): ÿþ So far, it's been the y with the umlaut that has been disappearing on me (in addition to everything below it). The þ character seems to show up without any problems. Melissa-- End Quote -- Walt Newcomb - Idaho Falls, Idaho - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Fingerprint: D515 ACD8 46B4 A657 48A9 9AF0 E269 EF51 BD08 D007 Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:05:50 PM PST, Walt Newcomb wrote: At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as follows: -- Begin Quote -- I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): [I'm not sure what you've sent, but in your message as received here, *everything* after the above quoted part is missing. There are not even any list trailers. What I've quoted above is *exactly* what I received here (minus the quote prefixes of course)] This is from your message header: Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by thebat.dutaint.com Viewing your message in both plain text and in the message.htm tab show the same results (even double-clicking on the HTML attachment and opening into a browser)... nothing after what I've quoted above. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8nkVOjVbXUvsE8ukRAtf+AKD+n/iczBdRYzrC7Xk1+6uy2be/QACg9b5I aXvjcPxe6QNZwplYc9fJ18Y= =6XPL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 22:19:22, you wrote: MR [everything below that paragraph was missing in the message that came MR back to me - even the list trailers!] I think I know why that happens - umlaut-y is ASCII 255, which may have some special meaning to your server. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] Passengers on elevators constantly rearrange their positions as people get on and off so there is at all times an equal distance between all bodies. -- Sharkey's Fourth Law of Motion Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:16:24 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 22:02:20, you wrote: MR In source view, I still only see the þ character. The umlaut-y MR character seems to be working sort of like a preemptive MR signature delimiter. I'm really becoming confused by this. Are MR you confused yet? :-) OK, the message was converted from QP to 8bit by the list server, so I'm CCing this message directly to you. Check the one you get directly for the umlaut-y. þ | ^^ | | yb | What is quoted above (I hope!) is exactly what I get with both messages. No umlaut-y next to the þ in the upper part, and just a regular yb in the lower part. The only difference between the two messages is the missing list trailers in the cc'd message. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8nkbPjVbXUvsE8ukRAmLSAKDaiPxa8YvduYO6Ceo3iO2fMQDhdACfXj93 5gqpLcNe8ky7zGGplpnO9Gk= =6zOa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
This is what I see in Eudora Pro 5.1 At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as follows: -- Begin Quote -- I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): ÿþ So far, it's been the y with the umlaut that has been disappearing on me (in addition to everything below it). The þ character seems to show up without any problems. Melissa -- End Quote -- Walt Newcomb - Idaho Falls, Idaho - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Fingerprint: D515 ACD8 46B4 A657 48A9 9AF0 E269 EF51 BD08 D007 Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:44:12 PM PST, Walt Newcomb wrote: This is what I see in Eudora Pro 5.1 At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as follows: -- Begin Quote -- I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): þ So far, it's been the y with the umlaut that has been disappearing on me (in addition to everything below it). The þ character seems to show up without any problems. Melissa -- End Quote -- Walt Newcomb - Idaho Falls, Idaho - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Fingerprint: D515 ACD8 46B4 A657 48A9 9AF0 E269 EF51 BD08 D007 Sorry for the over-quoting above, but I wanted to leave it as unchanged as possible. As you can see, in what I've quoted here, the umlaut-y character is missing (I did include it when I sent the original message). Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8nkthjVbXUvsE8ukRAn/qAJ4pcYsxw7G7DskWx4DmYzW0SUimiQCfUz7N 9Bzq5UZ99yBxsR4JpRssaWc= =l499 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:36:12 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: I think I know why that happens - umlaut-y is ASCII 255, which may have some special meaning to your server. Thank you for pointing that out. I seem to be having the same problem with the umlaut-y character with at least two different mail servers I'm receiving mail from. Though I don't understand the significance, I'll include that information when I write to the owners of the two mail servers. Thanks again! Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8nklhjVbXUvsE8ukRAj/wAJwLFDqk80LfLl3X3QkauqnZvOEc3QCfYttJ uiMSgF8YOFvt0iHVLUh/PhQ= =Xd0o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 22:36:37, you wrote: MR The only difference between the two messages is the missing list MR trailers in the cc'd message. Could you send the headers of my CCed message? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] It is the essence of grantsmanship to persuade the Foundation executives that it was THEY who suggested the research project and that you were a belated convert, agreeing reluctantly to all they had proposed. -- Parkinson's Principle of Non-Origination Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Nick Andriash, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:50:26 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 2:50:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: Hello Melissa Reese, On Sunday, March 24 2002 at 11:36 AM PDT, you wrote: I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP signed it, and sent it to myself. The following (assuming all works properly here), is *all* that showed up when I received the mail into another account: - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The rest of the message was *gone*! Sounds like something is conflicting with your ability to copy to the clipboard. Hmmm? Seems to me a bug in the html viewer and maybe the translation tables... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Allie C Martin, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:11:55 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:11:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: @ 11:36:03 -0800 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Melissa Reese [MR] wrote these words of wisdom:... MR Well, here's another *very* strange twist... MR I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP MR signed it, and sent it to myself. The following (assuming all MR works properly here), is *all* that showed up when I received the MR mail into another account: Are you using the new RTV? What font is the RTV set to use? Perhaps the different font is unable to display the characters. If you're using the RTV with a font that's different from that of the editor, I suggest switching to the editor's font and check to see if the problem is still there. Allie, I added ISO-8859-15 as Thai to Xlat, use html set to Thai, set it even as default but I am not even sure the default sticks as when looking it always is set to none Anyway, seems I better switch back to English (g) txt for a while... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Walt Newcomb, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:02:57 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 5:02:57 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Walt Newcomb wrote: Hello Melissa Sunday, March 24, 2002, 2:56:12 PM, you wrote: MR Sorry for the over-quoting above, but I wanted to leave it as MR unchanged as possible. MR As you can see, in what I've quoted here, the umlaut-y character is MR missing (I did include it when I sent the original message). MR Melissa Very interesting! The umlaut-y character was DEFINITELY visible in the message that I received in Eudora, and in what I quoted for transmittal to you! I have seen I think the same in Html msgs are incomplete sometimes where txt shows all and sometimes odd characters appear but on sending they change into something else. So you maybe looking at exactly the same data but not see the same... In my case I changed something in the rlat tables as I want to enable some foreign scripts to be readable... Looks like I have to read the whole tread though as I thought it was a beta problem... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:35:23 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:35:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Melissa Reese wrote: On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:13:33 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: What if your server doesn't tolerate 8-bit characters in message body? As far as I know, I've never had any trouble with displaying 8-bit characters. Can you see these chars: þ (this mail is QP encoded). I'm not sure how many characters you sent, but I see only *one* within the quotes. This one: þ Odd, I see in your case one and in the original 2... Seems a time to compare language and the bat font settings... Melissa -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Allie C Martin, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:44:57 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:44:57 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: @ 15:11:55 -0500 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote these words of wisdom:... ACM Are you using the new RTV? After reading the rest of the thread as it came in I see that this couldn't be the problem. I see all of your messages in their entirety, with all the characters you wish to send. Since with both Becky and TB! you're seeing truncated versions, then it would appear to be a mail server issue. The last thing to do would be to send the characters in an unsigned text block and see if it's transmitted OK or is everything below and including the characters cutoff as well? I donot believe it has anything to do with a mailserver more a babylonian confusion between the different Bats... Anyway, No reason why becky couldnt have the same problem.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Jernej Simonèiè, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:57:55 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:57:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 21:35:23, you wrote: Can you see these chars: þ (this mail is QP encoded). MR I'm not sure how many characters you sent, but I see only *one* within MR the quotes. This one: þ The umlaut-y was there, too... What do you see in source view (F9)? =FE -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:57:23 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:57:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Melissa Reese wrote: I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): ÿþ So far, it's been the y with the umlaut that has been disappearing on me (in addition to everything below it). The þ character seems to show up without any problems. I now saw a square, indicating that whatever was send didnt have a character associated with it so you get a square... Melissa -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:30:15 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 4:30:15 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Melissa Reese wrote: On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:05:50 PM PST, Walt Newcomb wrote: At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as follows: -- Begin Quote -- I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP signature below these characters): [I'm not sure what you've sent, but in your message as received here, *everything* after the above quoted part is missing. There are not even any list trailers. What I've quoted above is *exactly* what I received here (minus the quote prefixes of course)] Missing in the html but likely there when you read the text part. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
Hello is everybody using the FIXED or the 'proportional' HTML viewer results here arent the same... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, 7:12:18 PM, tracer wrote: is everybody using the FIXED or the 'proportional' HTML viewer results here arent the same... so, what's the difference?? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 4:52:26 PM PST, tracer wrote: [I'm not sure what you've sent, but in your message as received here, *everything* after the above quoted part is missing. There are not even any list trailers. What I've quoted above is *exactly* what I received here (minus the quote prefixes of course)] Missing in the html but likely there when you read the text part. No. Missing everywhere - text, HTML, and source view. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8no+RjVbXUvsE8ukRAh9JAKDDEGgfyKFeS2UBZkyPSxeI8b5eOgCfZorf VLr2ZDe6Yvckwrz6Kmgquy8= =wd+N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
