Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello George! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:38 PM, you wrote: ASK I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles bold etc., ASK and its still working, just like the smilies. I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps wasn't working - it's still converting the external links to local ones. It's those local links that no longer work, just like the smileys. It shows the Alt text in a box. Smileys are working for me now, in v. 3.96.03 (BETA). The developers announced when they began offering beta versions 3.96.xx for testing that they were proceeding toward a release, when all the showstopping problems have been cleaned up. So I hope the upcoming release will fix your txt2html.regexps function, since it seemed to be associated with the Smiley-display malfunction. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Mary Bull wrote: MB So I hope the upcoming release will fix your txt2html.regexps MB function, since it seemed to be associated with the Smiley-display MB malfunction. I was waiting for them to fix the crash on exit before I tried the latest beta. I grabbed it last night and the images do indeed work again. Unfortunately, I just had a crash on exit so I'll probably go back to the version I was on before. My unattended backup process shuts down TB! and a crash on exit would likely mess that process up. -- George Using The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Alexander S. Kunz schrieb: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And *both* are 3.95.08?!? Yes they are indeed. One from the MSI with the normal splash screen and smileys disabled, and one from the last beta RAR with the Christmas screen and smileys working. As a matter of fact, both show 3.95.8 as the version number, lacking the zero... -- Cheers Peter Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58 AM, you wrote to Stuart Cuddy: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. There is obviously something in the code of msi 3.95.08 that causes so many of us to have non-functioning Smileys. Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 From his January 24 post at TBBETA: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander! On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47 PM, you wrote: And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and both are different, and that I find hard to believe... Well, I believe him. Because this msi install has given you the Smileys+Christmas Splash Screen and me and a bunch of others the Regular Splash Screen+No Smileys. So, if on one of his machines he did what you did with the original Smiley install back in v. 2.xx, and on the other he did what I did with that original Smiley install when I got v. 2.06 (or something like that I seem to remember--it was so I could see the :42: that Leif made for me). So, it's logical to me that it could happen that way. And besides, Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :) When I was seeing text versions of the Smileys surrounded with rectangular boxes, the splash screen was the usual one. Now that I reverted to the 3.95.8 rar, the splash screen is the Christmas edition screen, and the Smiley images are called. Thats odd, as I *did* install the MSI (control panel/arp shows TB version 3.95.08), but I still see the xmas splash screen. Yes. Maxim definitely needs to have a look at this, I think. Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of us are experiencing. What do you think, Alex? I ain't not making no clean install ma'am if it breaks me smilies! ;-) :kiss: :bearhug: BTW, have you seen my BT issue report? I uploaded Martin Schoch's PNG there, and it will show you what we are experiencing: I saw the screenshot before, yes. Okay. So you know what I'm ticked off about. ;) But I reckon the answer is :42: :purpletimemachine: h2g2 -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 (rar) on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:27:15 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: But thats not what Stuart wrote. :-P He said he installed the MSI on two machines, one showing the xmas splash, the other one not. I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides the default splash screens. Perhaps he has done something like that and forgotten. My smilys seem healthy everywhere. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Stuart, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:57:22 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 14:57 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm SC Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. Yes. SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the SC Christmas theme and smileys work. Was that the same .msi? -- Groetjes, Roelof IBM: I've Been Misled http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfGe2yMFOsd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK on Friday, January 26, 2007 at 00:19 you (George Mitchell) wrote: I'm using the txt2html.regexps trick to turn some external image links into links to images on my hard drive. This quit working along with the smileys, so it's not just the .msl mechanism that broke. ASK I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles *bold* etc., ASK and its still working, just like the smilies. I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps wasn't working - it's still converting the external links to local ones. It's those local links that no longer work, just like the smileys. It shows the Alt text in a box. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 at 14:28:45 -0600, Dwight wrote: I have an installation with the minimal splash screen, which overrides the default splash screens. By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO command line parameter, or is there something else that can be done with splash screens? Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for another image? -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Mary, On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:40:14 -0600GMT (26-1-2007, 19:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB Perhaps those of you who were able to install msi 3.95.08 and keep MB functioning Smileys can do so because of how you handled the original MB Smiley code offerings, back in version 2.xx. MB Perhaps a clean install would let you reproduce the problem so many of MB us are experiencing. So I uninstalled TB and installed it again from the msi. Still no boxed smileys. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpLzrE2WdYGv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash screen (was: Re: Smileys)
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:42:53 PM, Robin Anson wrote: By minimal splash screen do you mean you are using the /NOLOGO command line parameter, no or is there something else that can be done with splash screens? Is it, for example, possible to change the Xmas splash screen for another image? yes. I don't remember how it all works, back in the middle of 2005 there was discussion on some bat list about alternate ions, and I fiddled around with some, and used a set called minimal for a while. I dumped them but never changed the splash, known in my tb folder as 'splash.png' back. I don't recall, but I think that it must be batlogo.xml which loads the splash screen. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 12:27 PM, you wrote: MB ... I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons MB and pics in The Bat!/Images feature. MB And I think I am not alone in this. No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for that reason. It has the same version number, although it's not the same. It still shows the Christmas splash screen and Smilies work well. :)) Then I am going back. I may not beta test any more until the developers announce that they have put the .msl function back into the code. MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: Some are very righteous about it, though. ;) And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the developers. Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Mary, on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:39:31 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 19:39 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MB Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think. If I were a smiley-hater, I would just turn them off! :lol: MB Some are very righteous about it, though. ;) MB And Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the MB developers. Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition, and even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be turned off at all... :)) MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: Don't! :kissy: ;) MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Exactly! :B -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.95.8 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Peter! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:06 PM, you wrote: MB ... Miguel's opinion is that this is deliberate coding by the MB developers. Why would they? I just started a new trial with a Linux partition, and even KMail shows smilies. I haven't looked yet, if they can be turned off at all... :)) I am going to file a bug report. Reason: Alexander S. Kunz tried to post to this thread, but it didn't come through for some reason, so he sent me a PM. Alex did a custom install of v. 3.95.08 msi, and chose to install only the .exe. Then he put his reserved Smiley files back in manually. The Smiley icons and pictures show just fine for him. My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Maxim has evidently not understood this, from the discussions that I read on TBBETA. If he doesn't get alerted, the situation could continue right on through the next release. I'm going to file a bug report now. Stay tuned. I'll be back with a new thread here, afterward. MB Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( MB I feel abandoned, too. :boohoo: Don't! :kissy: ;) :bearhug: I feel better already. Thanks, Peter. And thanks, Alex! :) MB http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Exactly! :B :thumbup: -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Mary, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote: Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember hearing. I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit on it. Weren't the developers working on something along the lines of smart tags like *bold*, /italics/ type thing. I wonder if this is where it's coming from. Is it totally disregarding the .msl? i.e. if you use :gdr: Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got the different look? -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Sir, you have a collective call from Borg, will you accept the charges? Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Leif! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:58 PM, you wrote: Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :( Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember hearing. I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit on it. Always so courteous. :) Weren't the developers working on something along the lines of smart tags like *bold*, /italics/ type thing. I wonder if this is where it's coming from. ... Haven't heard that, but if so it could be related. Is it totally disregarding the .msl? i.e. if you use :gdr: It's displayed as gdr (with the colons) and a rectangular box around it. Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got the different look? None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT collection. It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Mary, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:19:05 PM, you wrote: It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then.. grin -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Somewhere hidden in this message there is a hidden message. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Hello Leif! On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:40 PM, you wrote: It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. Thanks for chiming in, Leif. Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then.. grin Leif, when you get time, could you do a complete msi install of this, over the version you're presently running: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-95-08.msi Just to test. Afterwards, perhaps you would have time to put a support note at: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6190 Would be much appreciated and rate a :kiss: or a :bearhug: from me and maybe from Charlene. grin It's from tbbeta mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The changes mentioned relate to Windows Vista Manager, to label placement in the SMTP authentication dialogue, and a larger window for the installation wizard. That's it. Not a word about Smileys or tags. So, I think something else inadvertently got done in writing the msi version. Thanks a mil! -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.95.8 on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys (was: bat and router)
Mary Bull wrote: Does that one work and it's just the uber common smileys that got the different look? MB None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT MB collection. MB It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken. I think that's it exactly. My guess would be that smileys breaking is the result of a half-finished feature. I'm using the txt2html.regexps trick to turn some external image links into links to images on my hard drive. This quit working along with the smileys, so it's not just the .msl mechanism that broke. If Ritlabs is really working on enabling selected external image links, perhaps smileys will resume working when they're done. Strange they've been silent on this topic. -- George Using The Bat! 3.95.2 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Mary, On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:23:11 -0600GMT (25-1-2007, 20:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB Alex did a custom install of v. 3.95.08 msi, and chose to install only MB the .exe. I chose the full install MB Then he put his reserved Smiley files back in manually. I didn't do that MB The Smiley icons and pictures show just fine for him. They do for me too. MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm -- Groetjes, Roelof Unbelief in one thing springs = blind belief in another. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDEgbHcC0na.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Bob, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:27:34 +1000 GMT (24/12/2005, 07:27 +0700 GMT), Bob Morris wrote: BM It is already included in the new help file - under the heading BM Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for BM emoticons. I could neither find the heading nor did the search come up with ay result. Iam using the_bazt.chm dated 19/12/05. Is there a newer version? BM Current version is 3.62.14 Marck must be on vacation. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Why is it that when you're driving and looking for an address, you turn down the volume on the radio ? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:56:10 +0700GMT (24-12-2005, 12:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BM Current version is 3.62.14 TF Marck must be on vacation. ;-) And Leif and me asleep. -- Groetjes, Roelof Function call to load Windows: here_piggy_piggy_piggy_piggy The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp7FZt7WCILG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:56:10 +0700GMT (24-12-2005, 12:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BM It is already included in the new help file - under the heading BM Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for BM emoticons. TF I could neither find the heading nor did the search come up with ay TF result. Iam using the_bazt.chm dated 19/12/05. Is there a newer TF version? Well, that's the version I'm using and I could find it too, while searching for 'emoticons' But you can find it via contents too: Advanced Use - Roguemoticons and PCSmileys -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vacate (I came, I saw, I left) The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpg8hlvdjJ0P.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:08:49 +0100 GMT (24/12/2005, 19:08 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO Well, that's the version I'm using and I could find it too, while RO searching for 'emoticons' RO But you can find it via contents too: RO Advanced Use - Roguemoticons and PCSmileys Yes, there it is! Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ein Drittel aller Kinder wird nach dem 30. Lebensjahr geboren. * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Dear Thomas, @24-Dec-2005, 18:56 +0700 (24-Dec 11:56 here) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bob: TF I could neither find the heading nor did the search come up with ay TF result. Iam using the_bazt.chm dated 19/12/05. Is there a newer TF version? BM Current version is 3.62.14 TF Marck must be on vacation. ;-) No, but had completely forgotten about it!! Thanks for the heads up, guys. And thanks to Roelof for doing the job! ;-) -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgphCPG1Igynb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Marck, On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:54:34 + GMT (24/12/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TF Marck must be on vacation. ;-) MDP No, but had completely forgotten about it!! Thanks for the heads up, MDP guys. You mean there a more important things in the world? confused -- Cheers, Thomas. A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick-boxing. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Be sure that you unpacked the Smileys zip file into The Bat!/Images and not into any subfolder. In Images you should have only: Default pcwimages rogues default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl Can't think of anything else. Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. -- Best regards, Mary PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Ben! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 9:50 AM, you wrote: In order to view smilies you have to read your mail in the RTF format. Well, that's what being sure Use Plain Text Viewer isn't ticked in the right-click (context) menu will ensure. It can also be set in Options/Preferences, of course, and the Smiley box ticked in that window. And, of course, since MicroEd is a plain-text editor, Smiley icons are never visible in the Edit Mail Message window, using MicroEd. -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 5:24 PM, you wrote: MB Get the right-click context menu from the message body while MB you're focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain MB Text Viewer is not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* MB ticked. Yes this was the problem. Thanks for the help. The only thing that could have made it better was to have included a smiley in the message, then I would have immediately known that it was working. ;) I'm going to make a QT of what I posted to you and include a Smiley in it. ;) Thanks for the tip. :thankyou: You're not the first and won't be the last to forget what to do to implement the Smiley icons. In fact, every time I get the question--and I get this PM as well as on-lists, because of my role as Trill, Keeper of the Smileys--I have to think carefully about all the ways I've seen it go wrong in the past. Glad what I said to you was clear and useful. :) Best wishes for the Holidays. :bearhug: To you, too! To you, too! :batbeer: -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
G'day Mary, Saturday, December 24, 2005, 1:42:31 AM, you wrote: Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Bob! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:27 PM, you wrote: Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Thank you so very much. I am greatly relieved, as I did feel that it should have been included--I saw it in the draft that was made available to the TBBETA list last spring. :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:29 PM, you wrote: It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Hmmm, a search on Smileys did not work. Well at least it is there, I guess it just needs to add Smiley to the search list. Probably a simple change in the text, making Smileys a stand-alone word would do it. One of us can bring it up on TBBETA in January. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Sometimes (and that refers currently only to some messages on TBOT), I switch to the RTV in order to see the smileys How sad. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.51.9 Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Peter, On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:41:53 +0200 GMT (31/07/2005, 14:41 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: TF Where do I set Smileys on as default in the RTV? PH Check Options/Preferences/ViewerEditor - Use smiley icons in HTML viewer Thanks, it did the trick. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. CHRISTOPHER HOPE was disappointed by the warning he spotted on a gallon container of the laboratory disinfectant Hibitane. Avoid contact with brain, it told him, thereby spoiling his plans for a fun-filled afternoon drilling holes in his skull and pouring disinfectant into them. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Friday, April 29, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Thursday, April 28, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-) Nay. It's a different woman and a different song. (-: [Has nothing with the saying. Although it *resembles* a tiny bit it. I don't quite follow you? To which lady did you refer? (This is getting OT so I'll CC to TBOT) snip You anyway have good tags lately. Thanks for amusement! Your welcome. Actually, I haven't updated my cookie-file for ages. It seems that as the version number of TB! increases the random generator gets more adept in picking the good ones. -- Urban Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king. Dying, he gasped out: Tee hee, Brutus. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Friday, April 29, 2005, Martin Webster on tbudl wrote: I doubt that there is a problem with the ideas described in this thread... I looked at every message in Mozilla Thunderbird and each renders correctly. If there is no problem, then even I can think it would be a good idea. Since I don't have Thunderbird installed, could you check if the different regexps come through correctly if you cp them into the editor? -- Urban You know it's time to shave your legs when the cat uses them for scratching behind its ears. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Urban, On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:46:20 +0200 GMT (29/04/2005, 04:46 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. U Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-) No, this comes from baseball. There used to be an overweight singer (forgot her name) who sang a certain song after important baseball games in the US. So, the actual quote is: It ain't over until the fat lady sings, meaning that when a team was down a few points, it didn't matter, because the game wasn't over yet. F'up2TBOT. -- Cheers, Thomas. Heut debug ich, morgen brows ich, uebermorgen cast ich die Koenigin auf int. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi On Friday 29 April 2005 at 4:15:54 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: No, this comes from baseball. There used to be an overweight singer (forgot her name) who sang a certain song after important baseball games in the US. So, the actual quote is: It ain't over until the fat lady sings, I always thought that saying was related to opera. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Thomas, No, this comes from baseball. There used to be an overweight singer (forgot her name) who sang a certain song after important baseball games in the US. So, the actual quote is: It ain't over until the fat lady sings, meaning that when a team was down a few points, it didn't matter, because the game wasn't over yet. Google doesn't agree with you. See for example: http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/4-24-01askeds.html -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.20 Return Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 28 Apr 2005, @ @ at 23:46:20 +0200, when Urban wrote: Thursday, April 28, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-) Nay. It's a different woman and a different song. (-: [Has nothing with the saying. Although it *resembles* a tiny bit it. But what resembles just resembles; is not same. (-; You anyway have good tags lately. Thanks for amusement! Reading all the time dull dry technical stuff soon becomes...well, boooriiing... thud (-: ] - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 240 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCcnqu9q62QPd3XuIRAnwOAJ9fzC2V0RRxb7mxDNIlQZrK6Bn0tQCeMlXI c6Y7xdW2wWa9qBvk8sDA83k= =kVvT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
ON Thursday, April 28, 2005, 1:25:43 PM, you wrote: TBs I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it TBs show up when I am composing a HTML message? TBs My Sony cellphone detects when I am writing a smiley, and exchange it TBs to a picture on-the-fly. Should not TB work the same? I agree with you on this. Specially with the not so standard smileys it is good to know that you have written them correctly. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Universal Laws of Golf: Your best round of golf will be followed almost immediately by your worst round ever. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello The Bat! support everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 13:25 you (The Bat! support) wrote: I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it show up when I am composing a HTML message? IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Thursday, April 28, 2005, 4:59:24 PM, you wrote: IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) sounds good to me ;-) -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/view/1024_large.shtml Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush, Opera v8.00.7561 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpcsX8VZVo7G.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Thursday, April 28, 2005, 9:59:24 AM, you wrote: I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it show up when I am composing a HTML message? IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) My IRC client handles *this* as bold, and _this_ as underlined... I quite like it, though not many people understand it when they use outlook, and can very easily hit the [B] or the [U] buttons ;) My IRC client doesn't support /italics/ though, it is ran in a terminal, no slanting there ;) -- Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpfBAZqtAanX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. -- Urban A virtuoso is a musician with real high morals. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Gerard wrote: ON Thursday, April 28, 2005, 1:25:43 PM, you wrote: TBs My Sony cellphone detects when I am writing a smiley, and exchange it TBs to a picture on-the-fly. Should not TB work the same? I agree with you on this. Specially with the not so standard smileys it is good to know that you have written them correctly. Sounds good to me. -- Urban If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, just imagine how serene it would be until the looting started Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Urban, On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:38:50 +0200 GMT (28/04/2005, 22:38 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) U Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. I disagree. I hope it will happy anytime soon. Unfortunately, there isn't a likely chance. U As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make U explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. So? I don't use regexes, but I do use the TB viewers. -- Cheers, Thomas. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Urban everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 17:38 you (Urban) wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Our increase in knowledge is comparable to that which a man, interested in learning more about the moon, gets when he climbs up on the roof of his house to get a closer look at that luminary. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 28 Apr 2005, @ @ at 17:38:50 +0200, when Urban wrote: Ah, a new tag in the (text) block! Yum! A virtuoso is a musician with real high morals. Yeah, they like to play long, long (de)cadences, until they eventually come to/at the end. (-: In this or that way. Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 239 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCcROb9q62QPd3XuIRApESAJ9BxvhiHP5qb2BRenT0t3Q3q9x+YgCeL3gB xmrHsRGJ9NijxekpBiEujTc= =MJvZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 28 Apr 2005, @ @ at 18:43:02 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Urban everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 17:38 you (Urban) wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? I don't understand. Aren't asterisks and brackets also parts of the regex syntax, and we anyway use them all in a regular text? - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 239 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCcRai9q62QPd3XuIRAlvhAJ4mthV6346vQn5SKDFt9Tsl9sZlaACcDhfs 8f+kzgzmxSLAtVTouy1YUbI= =9XHA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 19:00 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? I don't understand. Aren't asterisks and brackets also parts of the regex syntax, and we anyway use them all in a regular text? I don't understand, either. RegEx, to be precise. :-P All I (think I) know is that the slash is used as an escape character if you want to match characters that normally are regex qualifiers. Like if you really mean to match an asterisk you'd use /* in the regex. Or something like that. :-} -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Visur Vatnsenda-Rosu (with Björk) (4:21) by Hector Zazou from the album 'Chansons Des Mers Froides' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi On Thursday 28 April 2005 at 4:14:47 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jurgen Haug wrote: IMO, smileys (sp? smilies?) are graphical elements and you can add them to an HTML message as such yourself. No opinion on graphical representation of smilies. One of the (less-serious) reasons I try to avoid HTML emails. I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-) sounds good to me ;-) Provided it is *optional*. A plain text email should (IMHO) be just that: /plain/ text. The inclusion of formatting would make it into /rich/ text. I use the PTV to avoid that. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Martin Webster on tbudl everyone else, on 28-Apr-2005 at 20:24 you (Martin Webster on tbudl) wrote: All I (think I) know is that the slash is used as an escape character if you want to match characters that normally are regex qualifiers. Like if you really mean to match an asterisk you'd use /* in the regex. Or something like that. :-} Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g. ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm, then I don't know what the problem with /italics/ would be. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Hopolot Kenym (4:59) by Hector Zazou from the album 'Sahara Blue' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi On Thursday 28 April 2005 at 8:51:51 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hmmm, then I don't know what the problem with /italics/ would be. :-) I'm not sure Urban meant there was a problem with /italics/. My reading was, he was emphasising the word that by indicating it should be read as if italicised ;-) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
ON Thursday, April 28, 2005, 5:38:50 PM, you wrote: U Hopefully, /that/ will never happen. U As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make U explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. If this was to be implemented it would never be possible to do in plain text and would a regex programmer use anything but a plain text editor? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex escape character? No, the slashes around that is supposed to be of the emphasis/italics kind. -- Urban It has recently been discovered that research causes cancer in rats. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g. ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm, then I don't know what the problem with /italics/ would be. :-) I've already answered the on /. Well it could be a problem if you wrote UNIX file paths in the form /etc/ but since people normally don't do that it is mostly a problem that exists in theory. But there could be a big problem with * (any number of the preceeding character). If we change the regexp from Martin to ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)-.*\ *.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note the spaces around the first *.*) you might see what I'm getting at. A bold . written is hard to distinguish from one that is written in a normal font, and it most definitely is not the same thing as *.* (Bad example, I know, but it's getting kind of late and I'm too tired to make up my own examples). -- Urban In the last scene of Pagliacci, Canio stabs Nedda who is the one he really loves. Pretty soon Silvio also gets stabbed, and they all live happily ever after. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote: U As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make U explaining regexps a lot harder, for example. So? I don't use regexes, but I do use the TB viewers. Questions on regexps do pop up on the TB* lists from time to time. No wonder, since the lists are the best source for help on how to use TB! Once I hoped for a help file that match the other qualities of TB! but time has made me cynical. Therefore, I think, it would be an unfortunate thing to do since there is a possibility of confusing poor newbies more than they already are. It could turn into the old (c)-smilie-problem (remember that? Those were the days!) in miniature. -- Urban I gase at the brilliant full moon. The same one, I think to myself, at which Socrates, Aristotole and Plato gazed. Suddenly, I imagine they appear beside me. I tell Socrates about the national debate over one's right to die and wonder at the constancy of the human condition. I tell Plato that I live in the country that has come the closest to Utopia, and I show him a copy of the Constitution. I tell Aristotle that we have found many more than four basic elements and I show a periodic table. I get a box of kitchen matches and strike one. They gasp with wonder. We spend the rest of the night lighting farts. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote: Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it. Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-) -- Urban No men who really think deeply about women retain a high opinion of them; men either despise women or they have never thought seriously about them. (Otto Weininger) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Gerard wrote: If this was to be implemented it would never be possible to do in plain text and would a regex programmer use anything but a plain text editor? He he. I've even been known to use Lynx and (yes) vi from time to time too :-) But seriously, even if you wrote using the text editor, it (probably) would influence how the text was shown in the RTV too, just like the smileys work today. -- Urban Oliver Cromwell had a large red nose, but under it were deeply religious feelings. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello all, Wednesday, April 27, 2005, The Bat!support wrote: I have TB 3.0.1.33. The smileys dont work in HTML mails, the Use of smileys in the options are checked. Any idea? no smiley is displayed? do You have Images folder in home directory? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - TB 3.0
Hello Dougie, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 4:58:45 PM, you wrote: DC Hi Folks, DC Apologies if this has been covered before but I did a search to no avail. DC Smileys not working in TB 3.0. DC Was Ok in TB 2.xx DC Have I missed something? DC Many thanks. DC Cheers. DC Dougie Douglas Coull, Langbank, Scotland Lat 55.92445 N Long 4.59753 W DC DC Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: DC http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Did you right clicked on the text pane and checked Smileys? They are working for me. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys go to Ignorewood (was: Re: Licence unhappiness?)
The ecstasy's around the corner, and is lurking. Well, assuming you're talking about smilies and not drugs, that would be fantastic. -- Regards Clive T Nursing the under-developed TB 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys go to Ignorewood (was: Re: Licence unhappiness?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Sat, 4 Sep 2004, at 17:44:44 +0100, @ @ when Clive Taylor wrote: The ecstasy's around the corner, and is lurking. Well, assuming you're talking about smilies and not drugs, that would be fantastic. I'm talking about a colon cleaner, a macro/template which would remove all :anynumberanyletter: forms from a given message you reply to. (Therefore, no any health risk included; even contrarily.) It could be done easily, I believe, just by using an automated search-replace with regexp. But I re-think that removing them from original messages wouldn't still do anything useful (because of interrupting a consistency of the original, whichever it can be). Actually I am not sure if it would do something useful even in replies... Perhaps only sometimes. But is not bad, anyway, to have such thingy handy. (Ops, I see now that I didn't delete the previous followups when changed the subject... Let the Force decide what to do now...) - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBOgWI9q62QPd3XuIRAr+VAJkBwmllPIbN3n5Xl7ISFcZJ8Qs++ACffLXn zS0CFYwAhMg8hf6kVajz3Mk= =xdMq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys go to Ignorewood (was: Re: Licence unhappiness?)
But I re-think that removing them from original messages wouldn't still do anything useful (because of interrupting a consistency of the original, whichever it can be). I made the original suggestion somewhat lightheartedly; I recognise that it would be difficult/impossible to implement. Still it would be nice. (There - no smiley) -- Regards Clive T Nursing the undeveloped TB 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Allie, On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:48:49 -0500 GMT (16/08/2004, 18:48 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: I noticed by accidentally right-clicking a message I was reading the line Smileys and it is checked. Now I know what smileys are, but how does this function in TheBat? I could not find smileys in the help index. Thanks. AM For this to work, you'll need to be using TB! v2.12 or later. AM Visit http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ AM A lot of information is there as well as the files you need. When downloading 2.12, the smileys addressed in default.msl are included without the necessity of downloading additional files from the site you mention. There is a problem with this: In the office, I use the RTV as default, as the majority of incoming messages are in HTML. A message came in advising seafreight rates + BAF + PSS + GRR. Now GRR means General Rate Restoration in my industry (BAF is Bunker Adjustment Fee and PSS is Peak Season Surcharge). Instead of GRR, an angry smiley was shown. This is not good: smileys should be surrounded by colons or - better - triangular brackets and otherwise not recognised, if they are purely text. -- Cheers, Thomas. THE RED LION pub at Lacock in Wiltshire offers whisky-flavoured condoms for sale. The small print at the bottom of the machine advises: Warning-Do not drive while using this product. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Thomas! On Tuesday, August 17, 2004, 10:53 AM, you wrote: LSB how [do Smileys] ... function in The Bat? AM For this to work, you'll need to be using TB! v2.12 or later. AM Visit http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ AM A lot of information is there as well as the files you need. TF When downloading 2.12, the smileys addressed in default.msl are TF included without the necessity of downloading additional files TF from the site you mention. There is a problem with this: Yes. This does need to be emphasized. The Default folder Smileys (in The Bat!/Images) were created by 9Val. The download of those, when The Bat! downloads, is under 9Val and the RitLabs' team's control. TF In the office, I use the RTV as default, as the majority of TF incoming messages are in HTML. A message came in advising TF seafreight rates + BAF + PSS + GRR. Now GRR means General Rate TF Restoration in my industry (BAF is Bunker Adjustment Fee and PSS TF is Peak Season Surcharge). Instead of GRR, an angry smiley was TF shown. Bad. And also bad when headshot brings up a bloody head instead of the text used as a photographic term of reference. There's a work-around, of course. You can edit either the Default Images folder or the default.msl file to disable this behavior. But it is still bad for this to happen either to an old user who had not had time to edit the file manually or to an unsuspecting new user. TF This is not good: smileys should be surrounded by colons or - TF better - triangular brackets and otherwise not recognised, if they TF are purely text. 9Val and the RitLabs team will have to address this. The Default folder as it is now constituted to download with The Bat! does not represent RitLabs intentions to meet the needs of business users as well as personal users. Of course, as you're well aware, Thomas, this team, and 9Val as a part of it, are up to their ears in IMAP issues and New Filter System issues in the Sorting Office right now. Anyone reading TBBETA over the past few days can see that. So I think it will be a long time before the Default images folder and the default.msl file are repaired and made comfortably functional. Anything with the PCWSmileys page (not the PCWSmileys Roguemoticons page, however) I can, most of the time, give help with, as the PCWSmileys Administrator. I am happy to have queries from anyone regarding that Smileys collection. -- Best regards, Mary (Mary Bull) :Trill: PCWSmileys Administrator http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Leonard S. Berkowitz, [LSB] wrote: I noticed by accidentally right-clicking a message I was reading the line Smileys and it is checked. Now I know what smileys are, but how does this function in TheBat? I could not find smileys in the help index. Thanks. For this to work, you'll need to be using TB! v2.12 or later. Visit http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ A lot of information is there as well as the files you need. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] · My PGP-Keys: http://key.ac-martin.com · The Bat!™ v2.12.03 /·\ WinXP Pro (Service Pack 2) . Why do we read left to right yet turn pages right to left? pgpZQu8fHcHhW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Peter! On Friday, July 30, 2004, 12:16 PM, you wrote: PK I tried copying into an email the pcwsmileys.msl file, but sending as an PK email did not show the smileys. PM No, it needs some editing. A lot of editing to be more precise. I did PM it once with the original pdsf file and haven't updated it yet. This PM is what I have, and it is more than sufficient for my daily use. :-) At some point I hope that 9Val will have the time to edit the Default collection of smileys a bit more. This Default collection is different from the pcwsmileys collection that Peter Kerekes referred to in the mail to which you replied with your own customized set from the Default folder and default.msl. One thing that continually jars me from that set--and I haven't customized it out of my own, because I want to see what other people are typing to me as images--is the handle happy. When you simply type the word, it will call up that tiny round yellow smiley. Therefore, its use can happen inadvertently. No colons or carets set that handle apart. It's truly distracting to me to have it pop up in a line of text, completely replacing the word. Further, to have headshot appear when I was only writing about a photo portrait was quite disconcerting. That image completely distorted my meaning. And just typing the word will call it. Knifed is also very ugly in the idea that it conveys. I think we could do without these bloody images, although I see you have them in the set that you chose as being useful to you. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Maggie! On Friday, July 30, 2004, 12:39 PM, you wrote: PK How did you do it? [copy the smiley collection in an e-mail to PK yourself, for handy reference] M Copy the following into an email to yourself and just store it in M the outbox parked and it will be handy. Move your cursor over the M image to see the code :-D These are from default.msl. selection of smileys snipped For the benefit of newcomers, I would like to emphasize once again that the Default collection downloads with The Bat! It is in the TB! versions from 2.11.02 onward. It is something entirely separate from the PCWSmileys collection, which is only available by download from http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php This collection is still in a beta, or testing phase. It is currently being revised rather frequently, as users upload images on that page for approval. There are currently two images awaiting approval there. I cannot do anything about them until I have an e-mail from whomever uploaded them. I need to know who uploads so that I can discuss copyright status of the new image or images with that person. What the page will eventually be will be determined by the needs and preferences of the ones who are using it. I was asked to manage this page by Leif Gregory, one of the TB! list moderators, on whose website and server the page resides. In doing this job, I try to meet the needs of the whole Bat community, and I am always happy to have input on what the page should be. Maggie, I'm replying to you rather than begin a new thread, because my main point is to clarify the difference, for any newcomers, between the Default folder and the PCWSmileys folder of smileys. -- Mary (Mary Bull, PCWSmileys Administrator) http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Richard! On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 6:44 AM, you wrote: MB Further, to have headshot appear when I was only writing about MB a photo portrait was quite disconcerting. That image completely MB distorted my meaning. And just typing the word will call it. MB Knifed is also very ugly in the idea that it conveys. I think we MB could do without these bloody images, RW I have to agree with you on those two points. Whilst I realise that it RW is each to their own I can't for the life of me think of any instance in RW a normal email where anyone would want to have either of those two RW emoticons (one can hardly call them smilies!). ... That's how my mind works on this issue, too. RW ... OK, I have scrubbed them from my smiley list and just don't RW use them but I just don't know why they were put there in the RW first place. JMHO of course and I realise others will think RW differently. Just the word knifed alone is one that I can't imagine being needed in a usual e-mail, unless the person were reporting on some news event. And in that context, I can't see how the person writing would want his text replaced with an emoticon. Again, these two are in the Default images. They come with every download of the latest versions of The Bat!. The only data set for downloading that I can control is that on the PCWSmileys page, as you know, Richard. :) Thanks for writing!! http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mary, On 31 Jul 2004 at 06:19:09 -0500 GMT [13:19 CEST] you wrote: Brrr. In the middle of night. MB One thing that continually jars me from that set--and I haven't MB customized it out of my own, because I want to see what other people MB are typing to me as images--is the handle happy. It is my opinion that the default collection should only include the most basic of smilies and only for ascii smilies, not for words. I'm thinking about :)=happy, :(=sad etc And none of the violent ones please. Though I've never seen words like 'happy' beeing replaced. I just did a test and tb! doesn't act on happy (happy) and :happy: (:happy:) neither. I haven't changed anything in the msl file. -- Cheers, Andre Of course I'm sane. The voices said so. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Andre and list, On Saturday, July 31, 2004 at 14:37:40 GMT +0200 (which was 14:37 where I live) Andre Wichartz wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Smileys: It is my opinion that the default collection should only include the most basic of smilies and only for ascii smilies, not for words. I'm thinking about :)=happy, :(=sad etc And none of the violent ones please. I second that. Though I've never seen words like 'happy' beeing replaced. I just did a test and tb! doesn't act on happy (happy) and :happy: (:happy:) neither. I haven't changed anything in the msl file. The handle for happy is ^^ (^ ^) -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 2.12.03 and Useless Macro Collection 1.7.751/rc1 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Michael!
On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 8:03 AM, you wrote:
AW Though I've never seen words like 'happy' beeing replaced. I just did a
AW test and tb! doesn't act on happy (happy) and :happy: (:happy:) neither.
AW I haven't changed anything in the msl file.
MG The handle for happy is ^^ (^ ^)
It's still showing up with just the word here.
Here's the default.msl file which I downloaded with The Bat! v. 2.12.00 :
Begin copy-and-paste:_
; smiley on the button
ButtonSmiley = ^^
; info
Name= PDSF Smiley Theme
Author = PDSF
Date= February 2004
Version = 1.0
Modified = 9Val, converted to gif by Valerye Bostan
Smiley = .\Default\smile.gif, 0, :) :-), smile
Smiley = .\Default\sad.gif, 0, :( :-(, sad
Smiley = .\Default\tungue.gif, 0, :P :-P, tungue
Smiley = .\Default\sideways.gif, 0, =], sideways
Smiley = .\Default\pouty.gif, 0, :| :-|, pouty
Smiley = .\Default\teeth.gif, 0, :B :-B, teethy
Smiley = .\Default\kissing.gif, 0, :* :-* :{} :-{} (k) (K), kissing
Smiley = .\Default\sick.gif, 0, :S :-S =S :s :-s =s, sick
Smiley = .\Default\vomit.gif, 0, =X :-X :X :x :-x, really sick
Smiley = .\Default\laughing.gif, 0, lol LOL, laughing
Smiley = .\Default\wink.gif, 0, ;) ;-) ;D ;-D, wink
Smiley = .\Default\grin.gif, 0, :D :)) :-D, grin
Smiley = .\Default\cry.gif, 0, ='(, cry
Smiley = .\Default\devil.gif, 0, :-) :), devil
Smiley = .\Default\angry.gif, 0, grr GRR :angry:, angry
Smiley = .\Default\cwy.gif, 0, :'(, cwy
Smiley = .\Default\blink.gif, 0, O_o, blink
Smiley = .\Default\whistle.gif, 0, :whistle:, whistle
Smiley = .\Default\angel.gif, 0, +:-) +:), angel
Smiley = .\Default\getlost.gif, 0, :-/ :/, getlost
Smiley = .\Default\getlost2.gif, 0, :-\ :\, getlost
Smiley = .\Default\hrhr.gif, 0, :hrhr: hrhr, hrhr
Smiley = .\Default\cool.gif, 0, B-), cool
Smiley = .\Default\shocked.gif, 0, :o :-o :-O :O, shocked
Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy
Smiley = .\Default\omg.gif, 0, omg, omg
Smiley = .\Default\poo.gif, 0, :poo:, poo
Smiley = .\Default\zzz.gif, 0, zzz ZZZ, zzz
Smiley = .\Default\cheerful.gif, 0, =), cheerful
Smiley = .\Default\hmm.gif, 0, hmm hmmm HMM, hmm
Smiley = .\Default\wtf.gif, 0, wtf? WTF? wtf WTF jaj, wtf?
Smiley = .\Default\w00t.gif, 0, w00t rofl, rofl
Smiley = .\Default\oops.gif, 0, oops *oops*, oops
Smiley = .\Default\love.gif, 0, (L) (l), love
Smiley = .\Default\headshot.gif, 0, headshot! headshot HEADSHOT HEADSHOT!,
headshot
Smiley = .\Default\knifed.gif, 0, :knifed:, knifed
Smiley = .\Default\stfu.gif, 0, stfu STFU, stfu
Smiley = .\Default\crazy.gif, 0, :-r dmnc DMNC, demented
Smiley = .\Default\weird.gif, 0, :weird:, weird
Smiley = .\Default\gpig.gif, 0, :GP: :guineapig:, guinea pig
Smiley = .\Default\shower.gif, 0, `:-) ,:-) :shower:, shower
Smiley = .\Default\music.gif, 0, :music:, music
Smiley = .\Default\bag.gif, 0, :bag:, bag
Smiley = .\Default\ufo.gif, 0, :ufo:, ufo
Smiley = .\Default\yes.gif, 0, (Y) (y), yes
Smiley = .\Default\no.gif, 0, (N) (n), no
Smiley = .\Default\movie.gif, 0, :movie:, movie
Smiley = .\Default\gift.gif, 0, :gift:, gift
Smiley = .\Default\beer.gif, 0, :beer:, beer
Smiley = .\Default\coffee.gif, 0, :coffee:, coffee
Smiley = .\Default\lunch.gif, 0, :lunch:, lunch
Smiley = .\Default\dog.gif, 0, :dog:, dog
Smiley = .\Default\cat.gif, 0, :cat:, cat
Smiley = .\Default\phone.gif, 0, :phone:, phone
Smiley = .\Default\xz.gif, 0, :xz:, xz
Smiley = .\Default\shuffle.gif, 0, :shuffle:, shuffle
Smiley = .\Default\h2g2.gif, 0, h2g2
Smiley = .\Default\42.gif, 0, :42:
End copy-and-paste. __
Note that happy.gif is called by the bare word happy, as are a
number of other images without colons around their handles in this
file.
Have you modified this file at all? Is it the one that you received on
your latest download?
And headshot? Do you see headshot as an emoticon ?
--
Best regards,
Mary
:Mary:
The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Andre! On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 7:37 AM, you wrote: AW Though I've never seen words like 'happy' beeing replaced. I just did a AW test and tb! doesn't act on happy (happy) and :happy: (:happy:) neither. AW I haven't changed anything in the msl file. What version of The Bat! are you using, Andre? -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Andre Wichartz, 31-Jul-2004 14:37, you wrote: It is my opinion that the default collection should only include the most basic of smilies and only for ascii smilies, not for words. I'm thinking about :)=happy, :(=sad etc ...I rest my case. I receive an email newsletter with a listing of new CD releases that has a list like this... A) B) C) etc. ...imagine my surprise when the B) was replaced by a smiley... :-} That happens with everything when people are overdoing it. Thus, I've turned the smilies off completely (I didn't like the unequal line distance when smilies are being used within text [like :-) this] very much, either. And, I beg for pardon, it is really a lot easier to understand GDR (grinning, ducking, running) than a graphical interpretation of it... :-P -- Best regards, Alexander The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers. -- Sydney J. Harris Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
And, I beg for pardon, it is really a lot easier to understand GDR (grinning, ducking, running) than a graphical interpretation of it... :-P I absolutely refuse to see it, I de-focus when it hits my mail, just as I refuse to hear the phony screams of spoiled whining children unless I see flames. -- Elaine (a great-grandma) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mary, On 31 Jul 2004 at 08:45:04 -0500 GMT [15:45 CEST] you wrote: MB What version of The Bat! are you using, Andre? Same as you as my headers show. ,- [ ] | Smiley = .\Default\smile.gif, 0, :) :-), smile | Smiley = .\Default\sad.gif, 0, :( :-(, sad | Smiley = .\Default\tungue.gif, 0, :P :-P, tungue | Smiley = .\Default\sideways.gif, 0, =], sideways | Smiley = .\Default\pouty.gif, 0, :| :-|, pouty | Smiley = .\Default\teeth.gif, 0, :B :-B, teethy `- Look how there are more than one handles inside one pair of quotionmarks. could it be that only those are used and the last one is something else? happy Do you see a smilie for the line above or the plain word? -- Cheers, Andre I drank what? Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Maggie, 31-Jul-2004 16:10, you wrote: ASK And, I beg for pardon, it is really a lot easier to understand GDR ASK (grinning, ducking, running) than a graphical interpretation of it... ASK :-P Grinning, ducking, running is this one :gdr: I know. I don't think :-P looks much like gdr either! ;) :-) It was not meant to be in comparison/context with *GDR* ...other than underlining my statement. -- Best regards, Alexander Something unknown to our understanding is visiting the Earth. -- Mitron Zverev, Soviet scientist Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Andre! On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 9:19 AM, you wrote: MB What version of The Bat! are you using, Andre? AW Same as you as my headers show. I went to Specials/View Source (F9), and I could not see the mailer in the list. I did that before asking you. Have you considered including the macro for showing that in your tbudl sig? AW ,- [ ] AW | Smiley = .\Default\smile.gif, 0, :) :-), smile AW | Smiley = .\Default\sad.gif, 0, :( :-(, sad AW | Smiley = .\Default\tungue.gif, 0, :P :-P, tungue AW | Smiley = .\Default\sideways.gif, 0, =], sideways AW | Smiley = .\Default\pouty.gif, 0, :| :-|, pouty AW | Smiley = .\Default\teeth.gif, 0, :B :-B, teethy AW `- AW Look how there are more than one handles inside one pair of quotionmarks. AW could it be that only those are used and the last one is something else? No, I think all the particular words at the end will call the image. The words with the extension .gif in the expression tell TB! what image to call. Do you have this line in your .msl: Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy Or this one: Smiley = .\Default\headshot.gif, 0, headshot! headshot headshot HEADSHOT!, headshot Or this one: Smiley = .\Default\knifed.gif, 0, :knifed:, knifed The :knifed: handle will call that ugly image. But headshot! headshot headshot HEADSHOT! will all call the headshot image. AW happy AW Do you see a smilie for the line above or the plain word? I see a smiley. That's because this line is in my .msl file: Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy So when someone types happy with no punctuation up against it, I see a smiley. And the .msl line that calls it is in the file that I downloaded with The Bat! v. 2.12.00. What a puzzle! :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Mary and list, On Saturday, July 31, 2004 at 08:34:33 GMT -0500 (which was 15:34 where I live) Mary Bull wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Smileys: MG The handle for happy is ^^ (^ ^) It's still showing up with just the word here. Hmmm - I'm absolutely sure, I deleted the complete images folder of TB! before I installed version 2.12.00 after several edits in the beta cycle. I only edited the (former) pdsf.msl file to get rid of the bloody icons - and even those are here again. I cannot recall if one of the versions 2.12.01, .02, or .03 were installer versions or only .exe files. Here's the default.msl file which I downloaded with The Bat! v. 2.12.00 : My default.msl file says (about happy): -8- Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, ^^, happy -8- I never found anything mentioned about that last entry, I'm sure the last but one entry is the handle - that one works over here. Have you modified this file at all? Is it the one that you received on your latest download? Not after installing 2.12 but now I did again, to get rid of head-shot or the knifing one. And headshot? Do you see headshot as an emoticon ? Not now any more :-) BTW: When I have a closer look at your very message I observe some irregularity in the headshot-line: -8- Smiley = .\Default\headshot.gif, 0, headshot! headshot HEADSHOT HEADSHOT!, headshot -8- At my end there were only _two_ Icons in the middle of the line. It seems the leading and trailing prevent the occurrence of the smiley altogether. Methinks there has to be some code to distinguish the handle from surrounding characters. I can remember that was an issue in the first beta phase. (after the b)/c)-issue :-) ) I guess there are some early and later corrections made in the code (regarding :handle: or headshot! -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 2.12.03 and Useless Macro Collection 1.7.751/rc1 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Michael! On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 10:41 AM, you wrote: MG At my end there were only _two_ Icons in the middle of the line. It MG seems the leading and trailing prevent the occurrence of the smiley MG altogether. Methinks there has to be some code to distinguish the MG handle from surrounding characters. I can remember that was an issue MG in the first beta phase. (after the b)/c)-issue :-) ) I guess there MG are some early and later corrections made in the code (regarding MG :handle: or headshot! Well, I don't know why I would have a faulty file. Perhaps I had better re-download The Bat! v. 2.12.00 and reinstall it. Because of my work with the PCWSmileys-php page at http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php I have a particular concern about all these images and .msl files. I certainly would be glad to see happy quit appearing as a round yellow circle in the middle of a sentence! Ditto headshot . And :knifed: . :woe: -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mary, On 31 Jul 2004 at 09:57:51 -0500 GMT [16:57 CEST] you wrote: MB What version of The Bat! are you using, Andre? AW Same as you as my headers show. MB I went to Specials/View Source (F9), and I could not see the mailer in MB the list. It's there though. You don't need to look in the source. Tick View-Message Header-Mailer. You will see it in the header pane then whenever someone includes that header. MB I did that before asking you. Have you considered including MB the macro for showing that in your tbudl sig? Someone might complain I'm wasting bandwith :p MB Do you have this line in your .msl: MB Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, ^^, happy MB Or this one: MB Smiley = .\Default\headshot.gif, 0, headshot! headshot headshot HEADSHOT!, headshot Smiley = .\Default\headshot.gif, 0, headshot! headshot HEADSHOT HEADSHOT!, headshot MB Or this one: MB Smiley = .\Default\knifed.gif, 0, :knifed:, knifed Smiley = .\Default\knifed.gif, 0, :knifed:, knifed MB The :knifed: handle will call that ugly image. Yes, but knifed won't. MB But headshot! headshot headshot HEADSHOT! MB will all call the headshot image. Yes. They're all between the one pair of quotationmarks. AW happy AW Do you see a smilie for the line above or the plain word? MB I see a smiley. MB That's because this line is in my .msl file: MB Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy The one before the last one should not be happy but ^^. MB So when someone types happy with no punctuation up against it, I see a MB smiley. MB And the .msl line that calls it is in the file that I downloaded with MB The Bat! v. 2.12.00. I don't understand that. I must have downloaded a different 2.12.00 :/ MB What a puzzle! :) Yeah! -- Cheers, Andre I am so clever, sometimes I don't understand a word of what I'm saying. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Andre! On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 11:09 AM, you wrote: MB What version of The Bat! are you using, Andre? AW Same as you as my headers show. MB I went to Specials/View Source (F9), and I could not see the mailer in MB the list. AW It's there though. You don't need to look in the source. Tick AW View-Message Header-Mailer. You will see it in the header pane then AW whenever someone includes that header. Okay. Thanks. Didn't know about that. Maybe some other people don't know either? MB I did that before asking you. Have you considered including MB the macro for showing that in your tbudl sig? AW Someone might complain I'm wasting bandwith :p It used to be recommended in the Welcome Letter that we do that. :( ... MB Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy AW The one before the last one should not be happy but ^^. MB So when someone types happy with no punctuation up against it, I see a MB smiley. MB And the .msl line that calls it is in the file that I downloaded with MB The Bat! v. 2.12.00. AW I don't understand that. I must have downloaded a different 2.12.00 :/ MB What a puzzle! :) AW Yeah! Yeah! -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Mary and list, On Saturday, July 31, 2004 at 10:58:35 GMT -0500 (which was 17:58 where I live) Mary Bull wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Smileys: Well, I don't know why I would have a faulty file. Perhaps I had better re-download The Bat! v. 2.12.00 and reinstall it. Before you make this trouble again: I guess a possible cause could be: I _deleted_ the whole images folder before installing the new version, I assume you did not. So, maybe, you had a _newer_ PDSF.msl file, whis was not overwritten by the installer but renamed to default ... That would explain the differences. Maybe I should send you the original one from the installer of 2.12.00 (if you'd like it) ? Because of my work with the PCWSmileys-php page at http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php I have a particular concern about all these images and .msl files. I certainly would be glad to see happy quit appearing as a round yellow circle in the middle of a sentence! Ditto headshot . And :knifed: . :woe: So you would better like the one I modified? Just drop a note. You do know my motto: We like to please :-) -- Regards :Michael_Geyer: Michael powered by The BAT! 2.12.03 and Useless Macro Collection 1.7.751/rc1 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Michael! On Saturday, July 31, 2004, 1:15 PM, you wrote: MG So you would better like the one I modified? Just drop a note. You MG do know my motto: We like to please :-) Yes. Just send it to me by PM, if you would be so kind. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Robert, On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:20:14 +0300 GMT (30/07/2004, 12:20 +0700 GMT), Robert Golovniov wrote: RG Yes, if you can browse the web from the machine you are typing your RG message on. And what if you are behind a firewall that allows only RG 25/110 connections? :-) Get a 24/7 connection! SCNR. Seriously though, I don't think having to keep a website open is the final solution. I would rather download the website (in IE: File / Save as...), so I have access to it without being connected to the internet. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Frage meines Sohnes (6 Jahre) aus aktuellem Anlass: Kommen Windpocken von Windows 2000? - Karin Uhlig auf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Peter,
on Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:32:17 -0400GMT, you wrote:
PC or you could always create an email to yourself, and include all the
PC smileys, so you could refer back to it any time :grin:
PM That's what I did, and it is rather convenient... :-B
PK How did you do it?
PK I tried copying into an email the pcwsmileys.msl file, but sending as an
PK email did not show the smileys.
No, it needs some editing. A lot of editing to be more precise. I did
it once with the original pdsf file and haven't updated it yet. This
is what I have, and it is more than sufficient for my daily use. :-)
smile.gif, :) :-), smile :-)
sad.gif, :( :-(, sad :-(
tungue.gif, :P :-P, tungue :-P
sideways.gif, =], sideways =]
pouty.gif, :| :-|, pouty :-|
teeth.gif, :B :-B, teethy :-B
kissing.gif, :* :-* :{} :-{} (k) (K), kissing :-*
sick.gif, :S :-S =S :s :-s =s, sick :-S
vomit.gif, =X :-X :X :x :-x, really sick :-X
laughing.gif, lol LOL, laughing lol
wink.gif, ;) ;-) ;D ;-D, wink ;-)
grin.gif, :D :)) :-D, grin :-D
cry.gif, ='(, cry ='(
devil.gif, :-) :), devil :-)
angry.gif, grr GRR :angry:, angry grr
cwy.gif, :'(, cwy :'
blink.gif, O_o, blink O_o
whistle.gif, :whistle:, whistle :whistle:
angel.gif, +:-) +:), angel +:-)
getlost.gif, :-/ :/, getlost :-/
getlost2.gif, :-\ :\, getlost :-\
hrhr.gif, :hrhr: hrhr, hrhr hrhr
cool.gif, B-), cool B-)
shocked.gif, :o :-o :-o :O, shocked :-o
happy.gif, ^^, happy ^^
omg.gif, omg, omg omg
poo.gif, :poo:, poo poo
zzz.gif, zzz ZZZ, zzz zzz
cheerful.gif, =), cheerful =)
hmm.gif, hmm hmmm HMM, hmm hmm
wtf.gif, wtf? WTF? wtf WTF jaj, wtf? wtf
jaj
w00t.gif, w00t rofl, rofl rofl
oops.gif, oops *oops*, oops oops
love.gif, (L) (l), love love
headshot.gif, headshot! headshot HEADSHOT HEADSHOT!,
headshot headshot!
knifed.gif, :knifed:, knifed :knifed:
stfu.gif, stfu STFU, stfu stfu
crazy.gif, :-r dmnc DMNC, demented :-r
weird.gif, :weird:, weird :weird:
gpig.gif, :GP: :guineapig:, guinea pig :guineapig:
shower.gif, `:-) ,:-) :shower:, shower :shower:
music.gif, :music:, music :music:
bag.gif, :bag:, bag :bag:
ufo.gif, :ufo:, ufo :ufo:
yes.gif, (Y) (y), yes (Y)
no.gif, (N) (n), no (N)
movie.gif, :movie:, movie :movie:
gift.gif, :gift:, gift :gift:
beer.gif, :beer:, beer :beer:
coffee.gif, :coffee:, coffee :coffee:
lunch.gif, :lunch:, lunch :lunch:
dog.gif, :dog:, dog :dog:
cat.gif, :cat:, cat :cat:
phone.gif, :phone:, phone :phone:
xz.gif, :xz:, xz :xz:
shuffle.gif, :shuffle:, shuffle :shuffle:
h2g2.gif, h2g2 h2g2
42.gif, :42: :42:
As I said, it's not up-to-date, and sometimes I hover my mouse over a
new or interesting smiley to find out how to invoke it, but I keep
forgetting those... hmm
--
Cheers
Peter
If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush...
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Re: Smileys
Hello Robert, Thursday, July 29, 2004, 2:59:01 PM, you wrote: RG With so many smileys available now, is there any convenient way to RG choose them while editing a message? yes, use the drop-down menu!! oh, that's right, they haven't created that menu yet :gdr: I always pull up the web site, but it was mentioned recently to put a shortcut on your desktop, and maybe save the file ( or link) to the web site. or you could always create an email to yourself, and include all the smileys, so you could refer back to it any time :grin: here is the web site in case you can't find it: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hi Paul, on Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:10:55 -0400GMT, you wrote: RG With so many smileys available now, is there any convenient way to RG choose them while editing a message? PC I always pull up the web site, but it was mentioned recently to put a PC shortcut on your desktop, and maybe save the file ( or link) to the web PC site. PC or you could always create an email to yourself, and include all the PC smileys, so you could refer back to it any time :grin: That's what I did, and it is rather convenient... :-B -- Cheers Peter Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PCWSmileys page [was Re: Smileys]
Hello Robert! On Thursday, July 29, 2004, 1:59 PM, you wrote: RG With so many smileys available now, is there any convenient way to RG choose them while editing a message? We do wish so! We are working on improving the page (it's still sort of in a beta phase) where the PCWSmileys are: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Some people are keeping this website open, or setting up a complex Refresh command through Windows OS capabilities, for a quick view of images and handles. I myself prefer to have a downsized window showing The Bat!/Images/pcwimages folder and beside it another downsized window showing the file The Bat!/Images/pcwsmileys.msl , which is a list of handles, alphabetically according to handle. I can bring these into focus, click on an image to show in my graphics program, and if it's what I want, I can then find the handle in the Notepad window with the list of handles. However the situation is complicated by the fact that some of the images are downloaded with The Bat! in a Default folder, The Bat!/Images/Default, with its corresponding handles file, The Bat!/Images/default.msl . I have nothing to do with managing that. However, I was asked by Leif, on whose server the PCWSmileys data base resides, to be the Administrator of the Smileys page for which I gave the URL above, and I was happy to accept the job. I am working only with Smileys. The Roguemoticons are managed by the three moderators of the TB! lists. Subscribers to tbot (The Bat! Off-Topic) discussion list and I are currently running a thread for suggestions on how to make the page better and the images more useable and useful. I hope you are subscribed there and can participate in that discussion. Meanwhile, please forgive me for writing at such length about this. If anything I have said isn't clear, or if you want to ask me something more, I shall be happy to do my best to answer, either here or on tbot. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hey Leif, My MUA believes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 7:52:22 AM. Thanks for the instructions! LG Below are the instructions to get smileys working properly on your LG system. 8 snip LG*And nothing else!* LG 5. From within The Bat!, hold down the following keys CTRL-ALT-SHIFT, LGpress the letter 'T' (without quotes), and let go of all the keys. LGYou may see this key combination referred to on the lists as LGC-A-S-T. LGThis forces a reload of all the .MSL files. You may also want to note that it creates the order.txt file listing the *.msl files. -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v2.12.00 The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hi rich, On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, at 21:25:03 [GMT -0400] (which was 7:25 PM where I live) you wrote: rg A smileys web site??? I missed something! BTW, How Are They Viewed rg By Non Bat Mail Programs? Yep... See below: Below are the instructions to get smileys working properly on your system. Assumptions: - Your installation of The Bat! is in C:\Program Files\The Bat! - Any folders referenced in this how-to are subfolders of the above. - There is no need to close The Bat! while you perform these steps. Let's start with a clean installation of smileys. 1. Delete *everything* in the IMAGES folder *except* Default.MSL and the folder named DEFAULT. 2. Download the following files: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip and http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys/pcwsmileys.zip 3. Unzip both PCWSmileys.ZIP and Rogues.ZIP into the IMAGES folder. 4. You should now have the following files in the IMAGES folder: default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl and the following folders: default pcwimages rogues *And nothing else!* 5. From within The Bat!, hold down the following keys CTRL-ALT-SHIFT, press the letter 'T' (without quotes), and let go of all the keys. You may see this key combination referred to on the lists as C-A-S-T. This forces a reload of all the .MSL files. 6. Locate a message that you know has smileys in it. Everything should be working now. -- Leif -:- TB Lists Moderator -:- PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Tagline of the day: Air-conditioned environment - do NOT open Windows. Roguemoticons - http://www.PCWize.com/thebat PCWSmileys- http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hi Bill, On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, at 19:17:15 [GMT -0700] (which was 8:17 PM where I live) you wrote: BM I think that the version of the Bat! must be at least 2.12, since BM these directions do not work for the 2.11 version that I have BM installed. In particular, ctl-alt-shft-T brings up some sort of BM Chat dialog! Well, closing and restarting TB will do it too, but do you really want to do that each time you get new smileys? -- Leif -:- TB Lists Moderator -:- PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Tagline of the day: The Bat! email client. Everything else is just Guano! Roguemoticons - http://www.PCWize.com/thebat PCWSmileys- http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hallo Leif, On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 05:54:06 -0600GMT (21-7-2004, 13:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LG Well, closing and restarting TB will do it too, but do you really want LG to do that each time you get new smileys? It's not as if we're getting that many new smileys and rogues, is it? Starting TB once everyday would do it quite nicely, don't you think? -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hello Russell, On Tuesday, July 20, 2004, at 21:56 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: RLF This is probably a really stupid question, but if I use a smiley RLF such as :grin: and it is sent to someone who uses Outlook, will they RLF see the smiley or word grin surrounded by colons. I use TheBat! and I don't see any smilies here, just word grin between ::. -- Edvinas Using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 pgpjEkPQoqMJn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hallo Edvinas, On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:34:06 +0200GMT (21-7-2004, 15:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RLF This is probably a really stupid question, but if I use a smiley RLF such as :grin: and it is sent to someone who uses Outlook, will they EM I use TheBat! and I don't see any smilies here, just word grin between ::. You're either using the plain text viewer or the RTV viewer without smioleys enabled or you didn't download the PCWSmileys from: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hello Roelof, On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, at 15:50, you wrote: RO You're either using the plain text viewer or the RTV viewer without RO smioleys enabled or you didn't download the PCWSmileys from: RO http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php True I did not download them. -- Edvinas Using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 pgpFtHyOBZtOp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 7:15:57 AM, you wrote: Roelof It's not as if we're getting that many new smileys and rogues, Roelof is it? Starting TB once everyday would do it quite nicely, Roelof don't you think? Just ask Mary, she gets a few submissions for PCWSmileys nearly every day. I usually just download when I see a :: handle and no pic... :grin: Well, unless the poster was Maggie. She like to make them up! ;-) -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: The next world war will determine not what is right, but what is left. Using The Bat! 2.12.1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
I replied to you: E Dear Lief, E You said LG Below are the instructions to get smileys LG working properly on your LG system. E Many thanks. I'll have a go tomorrow. Which I did. As a result I can see the rouges' pictures, but not the smileys :-( Clearly I did something wrong. Any suggestions? Should I just repeat the instructions you gave - and if so do I need to include the deleted first step? (I've tried closing and reopening TB!) Looking at other messages, I see that step 1 said: Delete *everything* in the IMAGES folder *except* Default.MSL and the folder named DEFAULT. Does that mean deleting all the items in the sub-folders such as that named 'default', or just those in the Images folder itself? BTW, on step 4 I also have 'order.txt' - should I delete it? -- Eric Using TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
