Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-29 Thread Steve Lamb

Friday, January 28, 2000, 7:52:42 PM, Thomas wrote:
SL Not only that but Kludges is called RFC822 headers there.  Odd.

 Everywhere now, except in the Main Menu under View, I think. Hmm.

And filters.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Allie,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 02:33:12  -0500GMT (28/01/2000, 15:33 +0800GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

 cntrl-F4 : reply quoting all.
AM  ^
AM Err. That should be 'reply specifically to sender'

Get a feeling I'm not using the shortcuts? You're right. Crtl-enter of
course! (What else! slapping hand on forehead).

However, I'm awfully sorry I provided wrong information. That's worse
than not replying. :-(

BTW you mentioned in your other mail:

That'd be F4 or right-click on the message, go to specials and it's
 there "reply quoting using selected text".

Well, I get no "specials" when I right-click on a message. Reply,
and reply all, no question about quoting or not.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Dieter Hummel

Hello Listmembers,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 at 14:43:23 [GMT +0800] Thomas Fernandez wrote:

JDH With Agent, Eudora, and many other programs, selecting a portion of
JDH   the original message and hitting Reply (or the keyboard equivalent)
JDH   results in just that portion appearing in your reply as the quoted

 In The Bat!, it is shift-F4. ;-)

AFAIR it's F4 - Shift-F4 is w/o quoted text.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:07:58 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

That'd be F4 or right-click on the message, go to specials and it's
 there "reply quoting using selected text".

 Well, I get no "specials" when I right-click on a message. Reply,
 and reply all, no question about quoting or not.

I meant right clicking on the message in the message list, not right
clicking in the message body. :)

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb

Friday, January 28, 2000, 12:07:58 AM, Thomas wrote:
 Well, I get no "specials" when I right-click on a message. Reply,
 and reply all, no question about quoting or not.

Not only that but Kludges is called RFC822 headers there.  Odd.

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Re: List headers (was: Selecting quoted portion of a reply)

2000-01-28 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 28 Jan 00, at 8:33, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply":

Hey, Steve, seems we've already got what we asked for... These are the 
relevant headers of your message:

 List--Help: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(this is an error: it should have been List-Help: with single dash)

 List-Unsubscribe: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Owner: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Administrator: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com

The only thing that's left to do is to ask RIT labs to add support for these 
headers to the program;-) In Pegasus, it works as the attached pictures 
show. The first one is how the message reader looks like when these 
headers are present in the message, the second one shows what happens 
next.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Nick Andriash

On Thursday, January 27, 2000, 11:10:19 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 F4 - Reply quoting selected text

 Shift+F4 - Reply without quotation

 Ctrl+F4 - Reply using address in From header or Reply to Sender.

A straight F4 without any text selected will also get you a reply without
quotation.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:50:47 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote:

 A straight F4 without any text selected will also get you a reply without
 quotation.

Yes, that's true and it very much has had me wondering why the
Shift+F4 key in that case. Ah well  sigh :)

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Re: List headers (was: Selecting quoted portion of a reply)

2000-01-28 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:49:40 +0300, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

 Hey, Steve, seems we've already got what we asked for... These are the 
 relevant headers of your message:

[..snip..]

 The only thing that's left to do is to ask RIT labs to add support for these 
 headers to the program;-)

Well, look at that.  I hope the relevant TB! enhancements are
implemented soon so that the intended subscribers may benefit from
it's presence. :)

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb

Friday, January 28, 2000, 1:56:59 PM, Allie wrote:
 ** Life would be easier if I had the source code. **

vim life.pl
/sub death(){
I#ESC:wq
rerun

:)


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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Fred Weissman

 Allie wrote...

AM That'd be F4 or right-click on the message, go to specials and it's
AM there "reply quoting using selected text".

 That's it, F4! Thanks! This is a fine solution, and another example of
 how well thought out a program it is.

Is there an equivalent for a -forward- quoting selected text?
I often need to forward only a portion of a message, and this would make it
much easier than deleting all the unnecessary sections.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:30:46 -0500, Fred Weissman wrote:

 Is there an equivalent for a -forward- quoting selected text?
 I often need to forward only a portion of a message, and this would make it
 much easier than deleting all the unnecessary section

I'm afraid not. :)

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Allie,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 03:13:41  -0500GMT (28/01/2000, 16:13 +0800GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

That'd be F4 or right-click on the message, go to specials and it's
 there "reply quoting using selected text".

 Well, I get no "specials" when I right-click on a message. Reply,
 and reply all, no question about quoting or not.

AM I meant right clicking on the message in the message list, not right
AM clicking in the message body. :)

OK, got it. Did you know these options are missing when you do that in
the View Folder (in which I read my mail after double-clicking on the
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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Steve,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:33:05 -0800GMT (29/01/2000, 00:33 +0800GMT),
Steve Lamb wrote:

SL Not only that but Kludges is called RFC822 headers there.  Odd.

Everywhere now, except in the Main Menu under View, I think. Hmm.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-28 Thread Allie Martin

On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:50:34 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

AM I meant right clicking on the message in the message list, not right
AM clicking in the message body. :)

 OK, got it. Did you know these options are missing when you do that in
 the View Folder (in which I read my mail after double-clicking on the
 mail ticker)?

I do use only view folder windows myself having dispensed of
the preview pane a long time ago. Since I use the keyboard shortcuts I
haven't noticed these menu inconsistencies.

I do see that there the special message sending options aren't
present in the specials menu after right-clicking on a message within
the view folders own message listing. What's more interesting is that
the menu choices is sitting right there in the specials menu for the
view folder window (Message  Edit  Specials).
  |
  |
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Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread John De Hoog


Hello, Bat users,

  Most email clients allow you to select just part of a message before
  you hit Reply, with only the selected part showing up as the quoted
  text. TB seems to be missing that function, or is there an easy
  way to do it that I haven't discovered?

  With Agent, Eudora, and many other programs, selecting a portion of
  the original message and hitting Reply (or the keyboard equivalent)
  results in just that portion appearing in your reply as the quoted
  message. Datula has a context menu choice that does the same thing.
  I tend to prefer the former approach, which is easy and more widely
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Re[2]: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread John De Hoog

Steve wrote...

SL On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 03:30:25PM +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
   I tend to prefer the former approach, which is easy and more widely
   used.

SL The problem is that it makes the assumption that if text is marked then
SL you want to use it for a reply.  That is not the only reason to mark text.  A
SL lot of email that some people get have data in the email they use in other
SL windows and CP to those windows.  Automatic quoting of marked material is a
SL pain.  Furthermore, aside from simple replies like this one, it is not good to
SL use since if quoting properly the individual should be quoting a little,
SL replying a little, quoting a little more and so on.  IE, it isn't a single
SL block of text he is quoting.

So why couldn't it be offered as an option? Whether it's a pain or a
convenience depends on the type of mail you get. For most of mine, I
quote only a selected part, not the whole message. So it's a function
I use all the time when it's available.

I don't really know what you mean by "marking" text for other
reasons, BTW.

The Datula approach, though, has the advantage of letting you select
text, open the context menu on it and decide what to do, with one
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Re[2]: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread John De Hoog

Thomas wrote...


This is what happens when I select a text portion and hit Shift-F4 --
no text gets quoted. What's it supposed to do??

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:30:25 +0900, John De Hoog wrote:

   Most email clients allow you to select just part of a message before
   you hit Reply, with only the selected part showing up as the quoted
   text. TB seems to be missing that function, or is there an easy
   way to do it that I haven't discovered?

That'd be F4 or right-click on the message, go to specials and it's
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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi John,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:48:06 +0900GMT (28/01/2000, 14:48 +0800GMT),
John De Hoog wrote:

JDH The Datula approach, though, has the advantage of letting you select
JDH text, open the context menu on it and decide what to do, with one
JDH option being to reply to that portion alone.

Sorry, mistake in my previous message. This is correct:

shift-F4 : reply without any quotes.
F4 (only): reply quoting marked text (I just used it).
cntrl-F4 : reply quoting all.

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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:53:17 +0900, John De Hoog wrote:

 This is what happens when I select a text portion and hit Shift-F4 -- no
 text gets quoted. What's it supposed to do??

It did what it is supposed to:

F4 - Reply quoting selected text

Shift+F4 - Reply without quotation

Ctrl+F4 - Reply using address in From header or Reply to Sender.

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Re[2]: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread John De Hoog

Allie wrote...

AM That'd be F4 or right-click on the message, go to specials and it's
AM there "reply quoting using selected text".

That's it, F4! Thanks! This is a fine solution, and another example of
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Re: Selecting quoted portion of a reply

2000-01-27 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:07:20 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 Sorry, mistake in my previous message. This is correct:

 shift-F4 : reply without any quotes.
 F4 (only): reply quoting marked text (I just used it).
 cntrl-F4 : reply quoting all.
 ^
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