Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Dear Alan, @7-Jul-2004, 11:41 +1000 (07-Jul 02:41 UK time) Alan Thacker said: Also, :bearhug: ends up with four arms, not two! Confirmed. When the GIFs are viewed with the Windows viewer they are fine. Confirmed. Any ideas? Maybe I just need to wait for a later Bat version? There are a few like that. The fault is that the final layer of animation persists and is not cleared before the first layer of the loop is re-displayed. This is what's going wrong, but I'm not sure why. It may be a fault in the component used to display animated GIFs. I could repost this in TBBETA but this also applies to the released version and I know that 9val reads here too ;-) . -- Cheers -- ://.arck: //.arck List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpikcridWGxL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Marck! On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 2:46 AM, you wrote: AT Also, :bearhug: ends up with four arms, not two! MDP Confirmed. AT When the GIFs are viewed with the Windows viewer they are fine. MDP Confirmed. AT Any ideas? Maybe I just need to wait for a later Bat version? MDP There are a few like that. The fault is that the final layer of MDP animation persists and is not cleared before the first layer of the MDP loop is re-displayed. This is what's going wrong, but I'm not sure MDP why. It may be a fault in the component used to display animated MDP GIFs. I could repost this in TBBETA but this also applies to the MDP released version and I know that 9val reads here too ;-) . Please excuse the full quote. I am replying to your answer for the purpose of taking this very welcome explanation to TBOT. There has been a query on that list regarding these, also. :) That came in this morning, and it's mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I put the mid just in case anyone who's subscribed both places would like to follow the thread over there. (Not that the thread doesn't belong on TBUDL, also.) :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 9:41:57 PM, Alan wrote: AT Hello Bat users, AT I notice that some of the smilies (from the pcwsmilies file, I think) AT do not display fully in my version of the bat. The right hand side of AT some is truncated. The following are examples: AT :hooray: Fixed as soon as it makes it to the new distribution. AT :pointmade: AT Also, :bearhug: ends up with four arms, not two! Why don't you try your hand at fixing these two. Usual cause is one or more frames are smaller than the largest frame and TheBat seems to reserve space for the smallest (first?). I've fixed a couple and sent them on to Leif. Alan or Mary contact me via PM if you need help fixing them. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Mary, Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 9:03:23 PM, you wrote: Mary I didn't know any better. We have so many wild-and-woolly ones Mary in the database that I honestly thought it was a 4-armed bear. Mary Hey, I'm just the gofer!! But I did agree to take responsibility Mary for any errors that I myself make! Thank you for bringing this Mary up. I'm sure it will get solved pretty soon. :) These are actual problems with, well, I guess technically it could be with the way TB renders .GIFs. The problem is that these funky .GIFs have a different sized first frame (think a movie), and TB sets the area of the image based on the first frame. It may be right, it may be wrong (I'm not familiar with the RFC pertaining to valid .GIF images, but one or the other is wrong. Plan9 has been gracious enough to fix the errant ones we've been coming across, maybe he'd help again. :notworthy: -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Speak softly and carry a big aardvark. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Marck, MDP why. It may be a fault in the component used to display animated MDP GIFs. I could repost this in TBBETA but this also applies to the MDP released version and I know that 9val reads here too ;-) . Sounds like 9Val is everywhere or 2004: 9Val is watching you :)) -- :9Val: Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Leif! On Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 11:52 PM, you wrote: LG Plan9 has been gracious enough to fix the errant ones we've been LG coming across, maybe he'd help again. :notworthy: He's just posted to tbot that :hooray: is fixed. So I asked him to see about the other two in a reply that I just sent there. Thanks for the great support!! -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
On Wednesday, July 7, 2004 @ 11:03:23 AM, Mary Bull wrote: [snips] AT Any ideas? Maybe I just need to wait for a later Bat version? Mary This is going to need the attention of both Leif and 9Val, in my Mary opinion. Which was one of the major worries voiced at the start of this whole thing :-( -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Humor is just another defense against the universe. Mel Brooks Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 9:14 AM, you wrote: 9 Sounds like 9Val is everywhere or 2004: 9Val is watching you :)) Oh, I do hope so!! Would you be a back-up support person for me, as the newly appointed Keeper of the Smileys? I'd be your slave forever, if you could find the time to say Yes to that request!! :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 10:22:06 AM, M wrote: Mary This is going to need the attention of both Leif and 9Val, in my Mary opinion. MicCullen Which was one of the major worries voiced at MicCullen the start of this whole thing :-( Not really. This is a user list and the smileys can be cleaned up buy users to work with the current code. Leif and 9val don't need to do anything about cleaning up smileys. Unless in his spare time 9val wants to code a gif viewer that takes all variations into consideration and displays them as the creator wanted, but didn't. :-D :-D -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Plan9, Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 8:29:57 AM, you wrote: Plan9 Unless in his spare time 9val wants to code a gif viewer that Plan9 takes all variations into consideration and displays them as Plan9 the creator wanted, but didn't. :-D :-D If you shoot those to me at work, I'll upload them. You probably sent the fixed ones to my home address. Work is leifg at doh.state.nm.us -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: First things first, but not necessarily in that order. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Mary, MB Oh, I do hope so!! Would you be a back-up support person for me, as MB the newly appointed Keeper of the Smileys? MB I'd be your slave forever, if you could find the time to say Yes to MB that request!! :) Yes, yes, yes! -- :9Val: Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, 2:06 PM, you wrote: MB ... Would you be a back-up support person for me, as MB the newly appointed Keeper of the Smileys? MB I'd be your slave forever, if you could find the time to say Yes to MB that request!! :) 9 Yes, yes, yes! :notworthy: Your slave forever, Trill ( [ X ] Her Mark ) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Plan9, On Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 11:45:23 PM, you wrote: text deleted for the sake of brevity Why don't you try your hand at fixing these two. Usual cause is one or more frames are smaller than the largest frame and TheBat seems to reserve space for the smallest (first?). I've fixed a couple and sent them on to Leif. Alan or Mary contact me via PM if you need help fixing them. I have fixed them (using Jasc Animation Shop). It seems that by saving them with optimisation towards a bigger filesize did the trick. Thanks for the suggestion that I try fixing them myself :-) It's good to know that it isn't a fault with The Bat!. -- Best regards, Alan ++ Quote or thought for the day:- Mark my words, when a society has to resort to lavatory humour, the writing is on the wall - Alan Bennett ++ Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 9:32:29 PM, Alan wrote: Why don't you try your hand at fixing these two. AT I have fixed them (using Jasc Animation Shop). It seems that by saving AT them with optimisation towards a bigger filesize did the trick. AT Thanks for the suggestion that I try fixing them myself :-) Congratulations!!! I always feel better when I know I can fix a problem myself. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some Smilies incomplete
Hello Alan! On Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 8:41 PM, you wrote: AT I notice that some of the smilies (from the pcwsmilies file, I think) AT do not display fully in my version of the bat. The right hand side of AT some is truncated. The following are examples: AT :hooray: The one I see is truncated here, also. AT :pointmade: And this one, cut in half. AT Also, :bearhug: ends up with four arms, not two! Is it not supposed to be that way? Since I keep dragging h2g2 in? I didn't know any better. We have so many wild-and-woolly ones in the database that I honestly thought it was a 4-armed bear. AT When the GIFs are viewed with the Windows viewer they are fine. Ah. But that is a dangerous practice, isn't it? AT Any ideas? Maybe I just need to wait for a later Bat version? This is going to need the attention of both Leif and 9Val, in my opinion. Did you look in your files to be sure it is not Bat Images rather than pcwizesmiley .gifs that these little half-chicks come from? AT This is not intended as a test of Mary's skills as the Smilies AT Support and Maintenance Guru :-) Hey, I'm just the gofer!! But I did agree to take responsibility for any errors that I myself make! Thank you for bringing this up. I'm sure it will get solved pretty soon. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
