Strange error at startup
I often, but not always, get a FETCH error when TheBat! performs its first check for new mail when I start it up in the morning. It is configured to check automatically, so I just hear the sound that indicates an error and I find something like this in my log: 11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - receiving mail messages 11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server mail.$.com on port 995 11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake >11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - Certificate S/N: , algorithm: RSA (512 >bits), issued from 11/7/2014 1:41:42 PM to 11/2/2034 1:41:42 PM, for 1 >host(s): mail.$.com. >11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - Owner: "US", "State", "City", "Company Name, >Inc.", "email service", "mail.$.com", "postmaster@$.com". >11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - This certificate is self-issued. 11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 11/18/2021, 06:56:53: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 11/18/2021, 06:56:54: FETCH - authenticated (plain) !11/18/2021, 06:56:55: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: rack.us; receiver= The "rack.us" part of the example changes almost every time the error occurs. Can anyone help me to understand what is happening? I had originally suspected some sort of infection on my desktop or maybe even our mail server, but I've used several different bootable (from optical disk) scanning tools and all report both systems to be clean. Any ideas? Oh, I should mention that when I'm paying attention (like this morning when I captured this example) I click TB!'s "Receive New Mail" button on the toolbar immediately after the FETCH error is reported and TB! calmly connects to my mail server and downloads last night's mail with no issues. This error seems to happen only ONCE per run, and only on the very FIRST (automatic) attempt to "Receive New Mail" -- Steven Valliere | tb 9.4.4 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- "If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen." -Larry Zana Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell check strange dictionary behavior
I only paid attention to which dictionary was open when Naomi hit the wall. It is SSCE\accent.tlx (AM). I have never noticed this before. I have a whole slew of SSCE??.tlx files all with various language endings (FR, BR, et) in two directories: Program Files(X86)\TheBat\Speller and Owner\App Data\Roaming\TheBat\Speller How can I have the spell check use my main dictionary wherever it is? And can I delete one set of these .tlx files? I would imagine that the Program Files(x86) are left-overs from an earlier version of TheBat Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange e-mail rejectiion
I sent an e-mail note to group of about 16 people, one of whom is my wife. Verizon returned the following Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient address: @resst168051v.mailsrvcs.net:vze8p0db@ims-ms-daemon Original address: csberkow...@verizon.net Reason: Rejection greeting returned by server. Diagnostic code: lmtp;500 Do not connect to this machine Remote system: dns;resst168051v.mailsrvcs.net (TCP|172.18.173.15|18104|172.19.168.52|225) (Do not connect to this machine) I send notes to groups that include my wife about twice a week with never a problem. What is going on here? Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strange e-mail rejectiion
I sent an e-mail note to group of about 16 people, one of whom is my wife. Verizon returned the following Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient address: @resst168051v.mailsrvcs.net:vze8p0db@ims-ms-daemon Original address: csberkow...@verizon.net Reason: Rejection greeting returned by server. Diagnostic code: lmtp;500 Do not connect to this machine Remote system: dns;resst168051v.mailsrvcs.net (TCP|172.18.173.15|18104|172.19.168.52|225) (Do not connect to this machine) I send notes to groups that include my wife about twice a week with never a problem. What is going on here? Thanks. It could be a configuration error (too strict) or perfectly strict (and your machine (per IP) is no longer allowed to connect). Likely, it's the latter as 172.18.173.15 is http://whatismyipaddress.com/private-ip Related info: Locate 16.5.1 To Configure Back End Stores with LMTP and a Minimal MTA: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19566-01/819-4428/6n6j426tp/index.html -- St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strange e-mail rejectiion
It could be a configuration error (too strict) or perfectly strict (and your machine (per IP) is no longer allowed to connect). Likely, it's the latter as 172.18.173.15 is http://whatismyipaddress.com/private-ip Related info: Locate 16.5.1 To Configure Back End Stores with LMTP and a Minimal MTA: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19566-01/819-4428/6n6j426tp/index.html Doh! The former - the error is probably caused by a configuration error. It is not your PC (per se) that is rejected, but a machine outside your control (unless these are your servers). -- St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strange e-mail rejectiion
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 7:40:13 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: Doh! The former - the error is probably caused by a configuration error. It is not your PC (per se) that is rejected, but a machine outside your control (unless these are your servers). Note that I immediately pasted the content of this note into a direct e-mail to my wife with no problem. My wife and I do not usually communicate via e-mail. This message was a follow up of a meeting -- that we both attended -- that took place earlier in the day. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 at 13:55:06 -0700,Lynn wrote: On 3/17/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. ...snip... It seems to be deleting it after the fact. I'm not sure whether it will help you, but I experience the same problem although under different circumstances. I run Mozy as an online backup system, and when it is running, it seems to lock my message files (although it is not supposed to). If I download email while the backup is running, I get a similar message about not being able to store message, with the same sort of file name. These files also disappear so that I am unable to do something constructive like manually import them at a later time. Perhaps something is preventing access to the message files of this particular account? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/24/2012, you wrote: I'm not sure whether it will help you, but I experience the same problem although under different circumstances. I run Mozy as an online backup system, and when it is running, it seems to lock my message files (although it is not supposed to). If I download email while the backup is running, I get a similar message about not being able to store message, with the same sort of file name. These files also disappear so that I am unable to do something constructive like manually import them at a later time. Perhaps something is preventing access to the message files of this particular account? Well, you are the first who has seen anything like this, so it is encouraging from that point of view. I can't imagine what it might be here, though - particularly since only ONE account is being affected. The others are fine. But ... I will poke around. That sounds like it *might* be a clue! Many thanks for the input! Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
Hello Lynn, L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? No, sorry. On Windows I'd continue looking on what files TheBat is trying to write, but I have no idea how to do that with Linux. (As usual, with Windows, you get service. With Linux, you're on your own. veg) -- Mit freundlichem Gruß Alto Speckhardt mailto:a...@treadstone79.de pgp7RqTD9DK7t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/23/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? No, sorry. On Windows I'd continue looking on what files TheBat is trying to write, but I have no idea how to do that with Linux. (As usual, with Windows, you get service. With Linux, you're on your own. veg) Yeah, I know - except it is a TB! message, internally generated, not a Linux or Wine message. So .. I really had hoped someone would recognize it :-/ The frustrating thing (apart from the other accounts working perfectly), is that these bat*.tmp files seem to be deleted immediately after the failed fetch .. so apparently the evidence is being destroyed! That is, the directory is empty ... clearly it has a nice, reliable cleanup routine going here :-) Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
Hi Lynn, On 3/23/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. The frustrating thing (apart from the other accounts working perfectly), is that these bat*.tmp files seem to be deleted immediately after the failed fetch .. I guess they aren't created in the first place. You could try if ProcessMonitor works on Wine. Then you could monitor The Bat! and check which files it attemps to write and if there are any error messages. As the other accounts work and these are POP3 as well check for any differences in the account settings. Mainly the Options where the home directory is set might be of interest. -- Regards Raymund Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/23/2012, you wrote: I guess they aren't created in the first place. You could try if ProcessMonitor works on Wine. Then you could monitor The Bat! and check which files it attemps to write and if there are any error messages. I'll see what I can find. As the other accounts work and these are POP3 as well check for any differences in the account settings. Mainly the Options where the home directory is set might be of interest. All at default ... the only real differences (apart from transport) are in the security - this account has less. But ... I'll look them over again, and check the processmonitor. There has to be SOMETHING. Thanks for the input - Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? [snip] Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip would be causing a problem? This is not it, fwtw. There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? Does anyone have an idea where I can go or who I can ask? The message is being generated in TB!, surely someone knows something? tia - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? [snip] Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip would be causing a problem? This is not it, fwtw. There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? Does anyone have an idea where I can go or who I can ask? The message is being generated in TB!, surely someone knows something? tia - What are the permissions on that folder? -- Rick No matter how much you strive to acquire any worldly gains, they are bound to go; so also your concepts and various identities. Even if you follow any religion in the hope of obtaining something permanent from the outside, you will be sorely disappointed. The main purpose of true spirituality is to liberate oneself completely from one's concepts and conditionings. Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj v5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. [snip begging] tia - What are the permissions on that folder? The same as the others - default. If you mean the account folders ..? Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. [snip begging] tia - What are the permissions on that folder? The same as the others - default. If you mean the account folders ..? Thanks - c:\users\lynn\temp\ is that set so the program to write to it. This is just a thought - I am NO expert. CHMOD it to 755 (or better to test) and see if it can write to that folder -- Rick (The world is) a hallucinogenic, ever-shifting kaleidoscope made of awe and light and manufactured time. There is no battle. There is no good versus evil. There is only the flux and the pulse of existence, creation, expansion and contraction in an endless dance, signifying nothing, inventing everything. Mark Morford v5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. [snip begging] tia - What are the permissions on that folder? The same as the others - default. If you mean the account folders ..? Thanks - c:\users\lynn\temp\ is that set so the program to write to it. I don't know about the program, but *I* have all permissions. And the other accounts are working fine. In fact, I was messing around with Wine, trying to get something else to run, and when I reopened TB!, it was showing new messages in bold. I knew it should be doing something to show new messages, but I couldn't remember what. Unfortunately I have no clue what I did :-/ This is just a thought - I am NO expert. Any thoughts are welcome. Seriously, I'm totally stumped. CHMOD it to 755 (or better to test) ??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? Again, thanks .. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? I would TRY that. I may be way off base and if it still won't write after doing that it is something else for sure (Just remember the old settings so you can go back to where you were) -- Rick People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, But when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light shining from within. v5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: ??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? I would TRY that. I may be way off base and if it still won't write after doing that it is something else for sure (Just remember the old settings so you can go back to where you were) Right. Will give it a shot. Desperate times call for desperate measures ;-) Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange error message
Hi Batters - I recently migrated from Win7 to Linux. I fully expected to have to give up TheBat! after all these years of dependency, but I was thrilled to find it loaded perfectly in Wine (v1.3.30, if anyone is interested). I loaded up my isp account and my several gmail accounts, and held my breath and pushed the fetch button. They all responded as expected. I tested send, and had transport in both directions. Home free, right? Then I tried to load my personal account from my personal mail server, which runs Dovecot. I loaded it up, and when I told it to fetch, nothing happened. I loaded it to POP, like the others. On doing some testing, I found to my fury that Thundebird fetched it fine. I. Can't. Live. With. Thunderbird. Especially not when all the rest of the accounts work fine in TB!. There are 1,900+ messages parked on that server, and apparently TB! can see them, because it counts them off as it goes, but it doesn't bring them to the inbox. The error messages show in the bottom log bar, but not in the account log. The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 characters. And, when it is finished not fetching the messages it counts off: FETCH - Failed to store all received the messages into the message base. Downloaded 1956 messages, stored 0 message(s). I'm stumped. My Linux mentors are stumped. I know that RitLabs does't support Linux or Wine, but this seems to be a TB! error. And I know that there are a few rogue batters who are successfully running TB! in Wine. And I'm praying to the cyber gods that there is at least ONE person here, or perhaps someone who can point me to someone, or a place, where I can find out how to fix this. Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light - . Oh ... I'd like to know whether TB! is a 32 bit or 64 bit app - I looked on the site, but couldn't find it. tia. Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
Hi, L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. Is TheBat perhaps writing a cache file named bat!.tmp, which contains a non-low-ASCII character, which fails on Wine? What file system are you using in Wine? L Oh ... I'd like to know whether TB! is a 32 bit or 64 bit L app - I looked on the site, but couldn't find it. tia. It's 32 bit. -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de pgpJvX5phtZDs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On Saturday, March 17, 2012, at 3:13:48 AM, Lynn wrote: I fully expected to have to give up TheBat! after all these years of dependency, but I was thrilled to find it loaded perfectly in Wine (v1.3.30, if anyone is interested). I too have switched my systems from Windows to Linux (using Xubuntu 10.04.4) and am still using TB! but not via Wine, which I've never installed. Instead, I installed Oracle's VirtualBox program, created virtual machines, loaded my Windows into the VMs, and run TB in that virtual machine. Given adequate RAM (I'm running 2 GB) and CPU (hyperthreaded Pentium 4 here) performance of TB! is equal to what it was under native WinXP, and there's no problem of compatibility at all. Setting up the virtual machine took a little time, particularly in the area of making sure the internet connections worked properly, but once established, it runs error-free. An additional advantage is that I can access TB! from any machine on my LAN, via the RDP server built into VirtualBox. In fact I'm posting this reply from another box using that capability. -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.4 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/17/2012, you wrote: L The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L characters. Is TheBat perhaps writing a cache file named bat!.tmp, which contains a non-low-ASCII character, which fails on Wine? That could be, but I have no idea how to find out. There is no such file that I can find in any directory under TheBat!, or under Wine that has a .tmp extension. It seems to be deleting it after the fact. But what I really don't understand is why this is happening in *this* account, but not in the others. They are all defined as POP. The others have more security on them, but that's the only difference I can see. Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip would be causing a problem? There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? What file system are you using in Wine? I don't know how to find that out, either. I have left the Wine configuration strictly alone, because I don't understand any of it's controls. The only thing I changed on it was to stipulate Win7 as the OS. On looking again, I can't find anything in the config that stipulates a file system. L Oh ... I'd like to know whether TB! is a 32 bit or 64 bit L app - I looked on the site, but couldn't find it. tia. It's 32 bit. Thanks. And thanks for asking questions I can't answer, but can seek answers for :-) Eventually I'll learn this stuff. I learned DOS with a much more limited background :-) Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/17/2012, you wrote: I too have switched my systems from Windows to Linux (using Xubuntu 10.04.4) and am still using TB! but not via Wine, which I've never installed. Instead, I installed Oracle's VirtualBox program, created virtual machines, loaded my Windows into the VMs, and run TB in that virtual machine. Given adequate RAM (I'm running 2 GB) and CPU (hyperthreaded Pentium 4 here) performance of TB! is equal to what it was under native WinXP, and there's no problem of compatibility at all. Setting up the virtual machine took a little time, particularly in the area of making sure the internet connections worked properly, but once established, it runs error-free. That sounds VERY attractive, but at this stage of the game I don't have the first clue how to begin. I expect I do have the resources; I'm running on a Dell Inspiron laptop with a 2Gz dual core Pentium CPU and 4G of RAM. An additional advantage is that I can access TB! from any machine on my LAN, via the RDP server built into VirtualBox. In fact I'm posting this reply from another box using that capability. I don't actually need that capability, but I can see how it might be useful to some. And maybe it would run some apps I'd like to keep which (according to the Wine community) do NOT run in Wine. I really need to be able to run Corel, too; Inkscape does a lot, but not everything I need. Where Linux is concerned, I am truly 'only an egg'. I will eventually get up to speed, but I don't suppose it will happen overnight. Thank you for offering another option, though. I am happy to run with native applications if they can use my data, but there are some things that just don't seem to be available, so it will be necessary to keep some Win apps. I'll keep this, and I may come back to you. Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange
Hi, since three days TB has changed its behaviour here spontaneously. Clicking on some folder a small popup windows appears, telling me that folder was compacted. See: http://www.boudicca.de/tb-1.jpg And clicking on another folder, there it's also tried, but there werte obviously no mails to delete, 'cause now another popup appears, telling me there are no messages to delete and nothing to compact. See: http://www.boudicca.de/tb-2.jpg However, I wasn't even in the settings, so didn't change anything. My accounts settings are set to empty trash on exit and to compact folders on exit. Not all folders are involved. Because it is really annoying behaviour, I like to know how this can get deactivated. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.40 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange things with TB
jlaikan wrote on 12/06/2008 at 01:52:26 +1100 subject Strange things with TB : I still use the Bat V1.53 which works well. Yesterday something strange happened. .../... Any explanation for all these? Thanks Hard disk full? FAT or FAT32 file system and folders reach the 2GB limit? -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.26.4 - Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.7.0 Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.9.0 - Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange things with TB
Hello jlaikan, On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:52:26 +0400 GMT (11/06/2008, 21:52 +0700 GMT), jlaikan wrote: j I still use the Bat V1.53 which works well. Yesterday something j strange happened. j 1) Old messages in the Outbox were suddenly sent (with no action from j me) to the recipients in several copies, with a copy to myself. Message in the Outbox should indeed be sent suddenly (unless parked). They should not become old. I wonder what took them so long. j 2) No messages in Inbox, Outbox or Sent can be deleted even if I j unparked the messages. As was already mentioned, your HD or partition may be full. j 3) Each message I send are sent several times as it stays in the j Outbox even when sent. This happens when TB! does not receive the confirmation from the server that the message has been received. As to why this would happen suddenly, I don't know. If you haven't changed anything on your computer, it is possible that your provider fiddled with the settings on the server. FWIW, I have also received multiple duplicates of messages sent with other mailers. j 4) On despatching messages from the server, I cannot delete messages j even if they are ticked for deletion j 5) A copy of emails I send are no longer stored in the Sent folder These may be due to lack of disk space. j Any explanation for all these? ^ other Gremlins. -- Cheers, Thomas. SYMPTOM: Feet cold and wet. FAULT: Glass being held at incorrect angle. ACTION: Rotate glass so that open end points toward the ceiling. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.26.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange things with TB
I still use the Bat V1.53 which works well. Yesterday something strange happened. 1) Old messages in the Outbox were suddenly sent (with no action from me) to the recipients in several copies, with a copy to myself. 2) No messages in Inbox, Outbox or Sent can be deleted even if I unparked the messages. 3) Each message I send are sent several times as it stays in the Outbox even when sent. 4) On despatching messages from the server, I cannot delete messages even if they are ticked for deletion 5) A copy of emails I send are no longer stored in the Sent folder Any explanation for all these? Thanks John Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange things with TB
Hallo jlaikan, On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:52:26 +0400GMT (11-6-2008, 16:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: J I still use the Bat V1.53 which works well. Yesterday something J strange happened. The first thing that comes to mind would be some interaction with your virus scanner. Shut down your virus scanner (if you're using any) Purge and compress all folders, I'm a bit rusty on 1.53, so I don't know whether you can select this for all folders (from the folder menu) or only on a per folder base. See whether this helps. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The percentage of people who will have to upgrade their hardware http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.18 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpeTQIQCl1ce.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange things with TB
Hi Roelof, Thank you for your reply. I would prefer not to purge my emails by date as there may be some important ones. I prefer to delete them individually, but they can't. I am also getting out of memory or out of bounds messages. Does V4 have a bigger database for messages (inbox). If so itwould be simpler for me to upgrade delete the messages after. Regards John - Original Message - From: Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jlaikan tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Strange things with TB Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Email Problems 3.99.24
On Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 9:08:45 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: No clue, but what happens when you upload a 4 MB file to something else than a mail server? Thanks for the response. I have done some more testing this morning is discovered: 1. I can upload the same file using FTP without problems 2. I can send the same message using Outlook Now going to see if the problem is caused by a combination of TB! and my router config. I sent the message successfully yesterday from the office using TB. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Email Problems 3.99.24
On Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 9:47:48 AM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: Now going to see if the problem is caused by a combination of TB! and my router config. I sent the message successfully yesterday from the office using TB. I have tested this. It appears to be a problem with The Bat! and my Router (a D-Link DIR-655). I can send messages without problems using my DSL modem plugged directly into my laptop. It is only when the modem is connected to the router that I have problems. It is totally strange! The next test is to roll back a version or 2 of TB and see whether it is a recent problem. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Email Problems 3.99.24
Hallo Julian, On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:26:15 +GMT (29-10-2007, 22:26 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JB My DSL connection goes down when I send emails with attachments. It JB appears to be size related - if the message is more than around 3.9Mb JB then the my DSL connection is lost at that point. The send fails, and JB I have to wait for my router/DSL model to re-establish a connection. No clue, but what happens when you upload a 4 MB file to something else than a mail server? -- Groetjes, Roelof Fatal System Error: (A)bort (R)etry (G)et OS/2 http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.27 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpxLkX6ieA7j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange Email Problems 3.99.24
Hello TB! Users, I am not sure that this problem is TB! related, but since it appeared since I upgraded to 3.99.24 a few weeks ago, I thought I would ask here. My DSL connection goes down when I send emails with attachments. It appears to be size related - if the message is more than around 3.9Mb then the my DSL connection is lost at that point. The send fails, and I have to wait for my router/DSL model to re-establish a connection. I am stumped by this. My ISP does not appear to have any limits in place that would cause my connection to be cut off, but my router does not tell me much other than a log entry to say that the WAN Interface is down. I have tried my ISP's email servers and my backup email servers via SMPTAUTH with the same effect. Any clues anyone? Julian -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange problem causing question marks in emails
Hi, thanks again for replying, Are your outgoing messages that exhibit this behaviour replies rather than new messages? If so, is the problem text your own or quoted from the message you reply to? The problem isnt really from when i reply to an email. it occurs either when i save a msg as draft, or save it in my outbox. Upon opening it again to edit it or send it out, the questions marks are there. so i cant use the save email option anymore, i have to save the text in ms word and paste it out again in anew email. it also happens when ive already sent out an email and want to send the same email to someone else. in outlook express there used to be a resend option. but in the bat! i go to sent mail, open the email, and redirect it. that creates the question marks too. now ive started to copy the text of the sent email into a new email and that seems to work, but i still cant use redirect or forward without question marks appearing. Odd. If you re-send exactly the same message with no modification (copy from sent to outbox, perhaps) does that go astray too? exactly the same one, no changes, and it wont make it through. i know its not getting through because it doesnt show up on the archives of the list on the web, and it also doesnt go out to individual recipients on the list. ive done virus checks on the computer too and nothings turned up. please help! i want to be able to save msgs in my outbox and have the question marks disappear. -- Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange problem causing question marks in emails
Hi On Wednesday 17 January 2007 at 6:39:46 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], usman x wrote: thanks for replying, (-: Whenever i start a new email, its always in plain text micro-ed and the character set is always latin 9 (ISO). It was just a thought. I believe there are folks far more knowledgeable on the subject subscribed to this list. Are your outgoing messages that exhibit this behaviour replies rather than new messages? If so, is the problem text your own or quoted from the message you reply to? i've also noticed that theres some emails i recieve from others that also have the question mark problem. has anyone else noticed this or had this problem? Get this very rarely. Either question marks or squares. Tends to be mailing list messages from people who also have people they correspond with in languages that use a different alphabet. Fiddling with character sets generally resolves for me. some of my Bat! emails are also not making it through. They register as sent in my sent mail folder, but do not get make it to where theyre supposed to be going. Getting any unable to deliver or similar messages in respect of the missing mails or they just disappear? they just dissappear. trying to see what was going on i started bccing emails to a yahoo account i have. sometimes the email gets to the yahoo account but not on the list im trying to post to, and i get no unable to deliver email for that. Odd. If you re-send exactly the same message with no modification (copy from sent to outbox, perhaps) does that go astray too? -- Best regards, MFPA Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange problem causing question marks in emails
Hi On Monday 15 January 2007 at 6:50:05 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], usman x wrote: i cant tell what is different about the ones where the question marks are caused. Different character set? Not sure if this is related, by some of my Bat! emails are also not making it through. They register as sent in my sent mail folder, but do not get make it to where theyre supposed to be going. Getting any unable to deliver or similar messages in respect of the missing mails or they just disappear? usman Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Cut mark missing!!! -- Best regards, MFPA I would like to help you out. Which way did you come in? Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange problem causing question marks in emails
Hi, thanks for replying, i cant tell what is different about the ones where the question marks are caused. Different character set? Whenever i start a new email, its always in plain text micro-ed and the character set is always latin 9 (ISO). i am using the christams edition of the bat! pro and windows xp i've also noticed that theres some emails i recieve from others that also have the question mark problem. has anyone else noticed this or had this problem? Not sure if this is related, by some of my Bat! emails are also not making it through. They register as sent in my sent mail folder, but do not get make it to where theyre supposed to be going. Getting any unable to deliver or similar messages in respect of the missing mails or they just disappear? they just dissappear. trying to see what was going on i started bccing emails to a yahoo account i have. sometimes the email gets to the yahoo account but not on the list im trying to post to, and i get no unable to deliver email for that. Cut mark missing!!! oops, -- Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange problem causing question marks in emails
Hi, I have been having problems sending emails where question marks appear replacing things like periods, quotation marks, etc. The text of the email can appear fine from my end when i send it out, but on the recieving end the question marks are there. Also, when i try and redirect an email that ive already sent, it brings up the question marks on my end before sending it out. This doesnt happen with every email in my sent mail folder, but i cant tell what is different about the ones where the question marks are caused. Not sure if this is related, by some of my Bat! emails are also not making it through. They register as sent in my sent mail folder, but do not get make it to where theyre supposed to be going. usman Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange filtering on IMAP account
Greetings, 09:45, Thursday, December 22, 2005 I recently moved from a POP to an IMAP mail server. The setup seemed to go fairly easy, but my incoming mail filters now behave strangely on the IMAP account. Sometimes they don't run and I must run then manually. If they are supposed to mark a message as read, the last message put in a folder is never marked as read. I upgraded from 3.62 to the latest version, but that didn't help. Further, the IMAP message counts are wrong. Currently they show I have 11 unread out of 31 total in the input folder, when in fact 29 have been moved to other folders and the two remaining have both been read. I've turned off all synchronization, so that's not it. The count corrects itself if I compress the folder. Any ideas? -- Gary -- Quintessential is now playing: Lee Ritenour - A Little Bumpin' -- Random Tagline -- Press any key to continue or any other key to quit... Mail Handler : ^o^ The_Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition ^o^ The OS: Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Spam Filter : Achim's Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2. Gatekeeper: Sygate Personal Firewall v5.5. Virus Sniffer : Symantec Corporate Edition v9.0. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange filtering on IMAP account
Hello Gary, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9:10:09 AM, you wrote: GL I recently moved from a POP to an IMAP mail server. The setup seemed to go GL fairly easy, but my incoming mail filters now behave strangely on the IMAP GL account. Sometimes they don't run and I must run then manually. If they are GL supposed to mark a message as read, the last message put in a folder is GL never marked as read. I upgraded from 3.62 to the latest version, but that GL didn't help. GL Further, the IMAP message counts are wrong. Currently they show I have 11 GL unread out of 31 total in the input folder, when in fact 29 have been moved GL to other folders and the two remaining have both been read. I've turned off GL all synchronization, so that's not it. The count corrects itself if I GL compress the folder. These are known issues with IMAP in TB! at the moment. Your best hope is to keep up with the beta versions as they come out and hope for improvements. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange server error (solved)
Last night I posted a query based on the following error: LSB The server reports error, The response is: 5.7.1 Missing or literal LSB domains not allowed None of the information that I received was of much help -- no fault of people who tried to help. So, in desperation, I copied the message into Notepad, saved the Notepad file, opened the Notepad file and copied the message into a new e-mail message. It went out without and problem. I think I understand what is going on. The error message has nothing to do with the To: address. The message that I was sending was from a person to whom I always have trouble replying, as my (From:) message is incomplete. That's what was happening here, but since I normally have the From: unchecked with I compose e-mail, I did not realize this. Now why my From: address is corrupted is another matter. It happens only with this individual, so I am not going to lose sleep over it. Leonard S. Berkowitz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange server error
I am trying to send a message to a discussion list to which I have had no issues in sending in the past. The error is the same whether I reply to a posting or use my address book: The server reports error, The response is: 5.7.1 Missing or literal domains not allowed The address to which I am sending the message is, variously, Ravnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the problem here, and how can I fix it? Thanks. Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat, version, 2.12.00 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange server error
Hello Leonard, On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:21:41 -0500 GMT (13/11/2005, 10:21 +0700 GMT), Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: LSB The server reports error, The response is: 5.7.1 Missing or literal LSB domains not allowed http://www.google.com/search?q=5.7.1%20Missing%20or%20literal%20domains%20not%20allowed There is quite some info. Maybe some of it helps. -- Cheers, Thomas. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange server error
On Saturday, November 12, 2005, 10:40:16 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF There is quite some info. Maybe some of it helps. Thanks. I will follow up on this. Leonard Leonard S. Berkowitz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Really strange behaviour.
Hello SD, On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 18:39:07 +0300 GMT (06/08/2005, 22:39 +0700 GMT), SD wrote: S No, I didn't enable message splitting. As I said, the outbox shows S number of messages correctly. Its whend I do Send Queued Mails, it S starts to send hundreds of mails, one by one, of course... Does you also get a high number of messages sent when you just send one message with a large attachment, or only when mass mailing? -- Cheers, Thomas. Bit: Geschicktes Product Placement einer Brauerei in Computerliteratur und Zeitschriften. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Really strange behaviour.
I have 39 people in my address group, and when I try to send message (using Quick Template + mass mailing), it does show 39 mails in Outbox, however, the message sending windows shows 585 messages are being sent, i.e. to each address, 15 emails are sent. This bug is really stange. it does probably has to do something with fact that i have multiple attachements in Quick Template? (when i had more attachments it showed 624 mails in queue...) Btw, the email received to my friends were in the format which could not be opened/decoded. or because i installed latest version of TB? any other hints. -- Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Really strange behaviour.
Hallo Nav, On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 15:59:36 +0300GMT (6-8-2005, 14:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: N I have 39 people in my address group, and when I try to send message N (using Quick Template + mass mailing), it does show 39 mails in N Outbox, however, the message sending windows shows 585 messages are N being sent, i.e. to each address, 15 emails are sent. N This bug is really stange. it does probably has to do something with N fact that i have multiple attachements in Quick Template? (when i had N more attachments it showed 624 mails in queue...) Check your settings at: Account - Properties - Files Directories - Message splitting Did you enable message splitting, if so disable it. When it isn't enabled then set the limit for splitting higher. N -- Your signature delimiter isn't performing as it should. It should be dash, dash, space on an empty line. -- Groetjes, Roelof It compiled? First screen came up? Ship it!! - Bill Gates The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgppBCxsEY9E8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
strange error messages upon execution of altF2
Hi, everyone. Now that I have several e-mail accounts from which to download e-mail, I have begun using the altF2 command, which downloads e-mail for all accounts. Unfortunately, I have experienced an application crash about 1/10 of the time when this command is executed. I have received two different types of error messages in pop-up windows: 1. System error. Code: 6. The handle is invalid. 2. External exception C008. Does anyone know why this is happening? -- Avi Avram Sacks using The Bat ver. 3 on Win XP professional ver. 5.1, sp2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange addition on replies
Hello Dwight, %WRAPPED=%QUOTES=%Qinclude='wq' Do you call (include) wrap2 from within 'wq'? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.30 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
strange addition on replies
today, each time that I use F4 to reply with selected text, quote is followed by the statement =Cannot find a quick template wrap2 Reply template follows. On %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, %OFROMNAME wrote: %SINGLERE %WRAPPED=%QUOTES=%Qinclude='wq' %Cursor -- Dwight A. Corrin [snip rest of signature] I don't understand where the statement is coming from. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.30 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange filtering/message tossing issue.
Hello Marc, Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 12:09:39 AM, you wrote: ML I've been noticing a peculiar problem with The Bat!. Messages coming ML in for my 5 accounts get tossed into whatever mailbox strikes the ML program's fancy... Doesn't matter what account or what mailbox. For ML example, when I fired up my laptop a short while ago and started The ML Bat!, it pulled in some 50 or 60 messages for 3 of the 5 various ML accounts. (Picked up from 3 different mail servers, of course.) They ML were tossed into random mailboxes. Most of them landed in the JUNK ML folder of the first account. Others were randomly dispersed; some ML correct, some wrong. ML This problem has been with the program for quite a while now; I've ML reported it to the bug submission address, but some software engineer ML type person at Ritlab marked the problem solved - no comments, no ML solutions, no nothing. ML Does anyone have any ideas on this? It's a really annoying but ML non-fatal. Has anyone else run into it? (BTW, it happens on any ML machine. I have copies of The Bat! installed on 2 machines and the ML same quirk shows up.) I have this kind of thing happen occasionally. Just seems to lose all ability to sort. Unfortunately, or fortunately, it happens rarely and is not reproducible on my end. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.26 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange filtering/message tossing issue.
Hello Marc, snipped Does anyone have any ideas on this? It's a really annoying but non-fatal. Has anyone else run into it? (BTW, it happens on any machine. I have copies of The Bat! installed on 2 machines and the same quirk shows up.) I use more than 5 accounts, a large number of filters, receive hundreds of e-mail daily and I have never seen a problem similar to what you describe. I would suggest you carefully review your filters. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange filtering/message tossing issue.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello All, I've been noticing a peculiar problem with The Bat!. Messages coming in for my 5 accounts get tossed into whatever mailbox strikes the program's fancy... Doesn't matter what account or what mailbox. For example, when I fired up my laptop a short while ago and started The Bat!, it pulled in some 50 or 60 messages for 3 of the 5 various accounts. (Picked up from 3 different mail servers, of course.) They were tossed into random mailboxes. Most of them landed in the JUNK folder of the first account. Others were randomly dispersed; some correct, some wrong. This problem has been with the program for quite a while now; I've reported it to the bug submission address, but some software engineer type person at Ritlab marked the problem solved - no comments, no solutions, no nothing. Does anyone have any ideas on this? It's a really annoying but non-fatal. Has anyone else run into it? (BTW, it happens on any machine. I have copies of The Bat! installed on 2 machines and the same quirk shows up.) Thanks! - -- * * Best regards, * Marc. * New Orleans, LA (USA) * FIDONET=1:396/45 INTELEC=239:600/70 * INTERNET: marc.lewis at sstar dot com * TELNET://sursum-corda.com * BBS, DATA FAX: 1-504-897-6006 * Message not valid without my PGP signature. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQEVAwUBQq5mlQHUq78/EfsHAQG+qQgAtvqdy2hzQjXae1alF1vpmLI7Tvz/EUrv RV13r0x21iAcFZz73FUNP+LhkGbFzuckPGa8Zw/sE45YAGsp/FM9OnGW9mmHQvbz L9snc4REZrPPLto6iIMT7o3VVP5Tz+gdFkmjaNo+NIjpQ6zDoO3/8x9eqJ98NbU6 Bk9gTxiaIYCVIhO1oj0bVV1XAMF70ZQi8WfLwKMQxdox1K1NTGH1qn1R5ENzKDuf Ao66YaGYAt541HuDH8z93bgol+QHghP13/AiGJqvd7LZJF6DF1jur4pRCnkAMoMv qNqgY92NjkqFrcWCu6BUBpFO7t9XX8jWWe+BXJNICLKPi77g6mQzAw== =NgCw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
C The problem is Word. It is replacing your straight quotes with what it C call smart quotes. C These are the English menu options, so in French they are probably C phrased differently: C Go to Tools/AutoCorrect Options C Go to the AutoFormat As You Type Tab C Uncheck Replace straight quotes with smart quotes Thanks, you find the problem. Word is replacing my quote ! But if I uncheck this option, it solves the problem of simple curved quote, but I will lost double quote as « » that will be replaced by . And in french, it's not correct... It's a shame that Word doesn't propose 2 check boxes instead of 1 for simple and double quote... When I paste the text in the subject, problem occurs... I had to type the ' manually. C So, in French, a ' is not grammatically wrong? That was my original C question. I think it's not wrong. Just not very beautiful... I don't understand that Ritlabs says TB is French compatible and doesn't support so simple useful characters ! -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
W It's a shame that Word doesn't propose 2 check boxes instead of 1 for simple and double quote... And I don't understand that this problem occurs only since TB version 3.5 !!! I was waiting for personalized menus since months, and the day I can use these with TB3.5, I had to downgrade to TB3.01 because of compatibility problems with French standard characters ! -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
Hi On Sunday 12 June 2005 at 12:03:20 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], WilWilWil wrote: it solves the problem of simple curved quote, but I will lost double quote as « » that will be replaced by . And in french, it's not correct... Could you work around this by using Autocorrect options instead? E.g. replace (or) with « and with ». -- Best regards, MFPA Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
Hello, Since I use TB (2.12, and after, TB 3.01) I had no problem when I paste the french text below copy from winword in the header subject : Réponse à lannonce I will have to downgrade my TB to 3.01.33 because in TB 3.5 and 3.5.25, the quote character is replace by a bad character when I send the message. Sometimes replaced by a ?, sometime by a strange squares shape ... And recipient person receive a wrong subject, that is not so good for finding a job... This is very strange, because when I have a look on archive mails, more than 1000, all header with this character are well shown when I launch TB 3.01, and bad shown with 3.5 and 3.5.25 ! Bad shown, and bad sent !!! When I manually replace by keyboarding the character quote ' in the subject, it is well shown and sent ! What's wrong in this last version 3.5.25 of TB ? -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à lannonce
WilWilWil @ 2005-Jun-11 4:40:55 PM Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I will have to downgrade my TB to 3.01.33 because in TB 3.5 and 3.5.25, the quote character is replace by a bad character when I send the message. Sometimes replaced by a ?, sometime by a strange squares shape ... This probably shows my ignorance of French, but do you have to use the curled ? Could you instead use the straight '? This is not the right solution; that would involve proper Unicode support in both The Bat! and the recipient's client. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Would a fly without wings be called a walk? pgp0cYtpg0I5b.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
C This probably shows my ignorance of French, but do you have to use the C curled ? Could you instead use the straight '? C This is not the right solution; that would involve proper Unicode C support in both The Bat! and the recipient's client. I can't choose straight or curved '. I just use the AZERTY keyboard and use the ' on the key 4 (without shift key pushed) when I write my text in Winword... When I paste the text in the subject, problem occurs... I had to type the ' manually. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.5.25 BayesIt! 0.8.1 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce
WilWilWil @ 2005-Jun-11 5:19:47 PM Very strange problem on character set in header subjet on TB 3.5.25- Réponse à l?annonce mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't choose straight or curved '. I just use the AZERTY keyboard and use the ' on the key 4 (without shift key pushed) when I write my text in Winword... The problem is Word. It is replacing your straight quotes with what it call smart quotes. These are the English menu options, so in French they are probably phrased differently: Go to Tools/AutoCorrect Options Go to the AutoFormat As You Type Tab Uncheck Replace straight quotes with smart quotes When I paste the text in the subject, problem occurs... I had to type the ' manually. So, in French, a ' is not grammatically wrong? That was my original question. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once... pgpRWlItD6tRM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message
I have a virtual folder that contains messages from several physical folders with a filter that selects based on sender. The virtual folder is sorted on the received column. When I delete a message in the virtual folder with the delete-key the displayed message is not the next one according to the sort, but a totally different one. This is obviously not the expected behavior and it makes it difficult to go through all the messages in the folder. Can anyone offer any help or advice on how to remedy the situation or as to why The Bat! behaves like this? Best regards, Jarle H. Knudsen Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message
Hello Jarle, A reminder of what Jarle H. Knudsen typed on: May 1, 2005 at 12:46:54 GMT +0200 JHK Can anyone offer any help or advice on how to remedy the situation or JHK as to why The Bat! behaves like this? I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message. Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any confirmations. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.9.20 Return Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message
Stuart On Sun 1 May 2005, 23:39:33 +1000, Stuart Cuddy wrote: I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message. Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any confirmations. I think you will find that the first time you delete the message it moves to the trash folder, but the conditions that cause it to remain in the virtual folder still apply, so it is still there. Second time you delete it removes it from the trash folder and it then disappears from the virtual folder. If you have the folder displayed as part of your virtual folder view, this will be apparent. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message
Hello Robin, Sunday, May 1, 2005, 5:30:21 PM, you wrote: RA Stuart RA On Sun 1 May 2005, 23:39:33 +1000, Stuart Cuddy wrote: I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message. Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any confirmations. RA I think you will find that the first time you delete the message it RA moves to the trash folder, but the conditions that cause it to remain in RA the virtual folder still apply, so it is still there. Second time you RA delete it removes it from the trash folder and it then disappears from RA the virtual folder. RA If you have the folder displayed as part of your virtual folder view, RA this will be apparent. I see, in other words do not include your trash folder in a Virtual folder. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] strange mails
See strangemails.png Doesn't really say anything - we need to see the headers of said message(s). -- St Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange connect failed !
LLM What are these account ? If it's Free account, they have limited the LLM simultaneous connection to 4 last week. Yes it is ! :-( -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.8 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange connect failed !
W I manage 5 accounts with TB. AdG All at free.fr ? Yes ! AdG They decide to limit the number of simultaneous connections to 4 :( I 've just tried to remove one account from list of accounts checked when I press F11... No more problem. You're right, the problem is that Free.fr seems to limit simultaneous connections ! I can't understand why they do that ! :( I will remove one account from global checking and set an automatic checking every 5 minutes for this account. A little solution... Thanks. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.8 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange connect failed !
JP Your isp may now be limiting the number of simultaneous connections? Free.fr doesn't answer to customers questions... How I can learn how Free works ? Is there some Logs in Win XP to track information about connections ? -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.8 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange connect failed !
Hi, On Saturday, January 29, 2005 at 12:43:45 AM, WilWilWil wrote: I had no problem before, but since one week, i get a connect failed message for 2 of the 5 accounts when I check for new mail for all accounts at the same time (F11 Key). What are these account ? If it's Free account, they have limited the simultaneous connection to 4 last week. -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange connect failed !
On Sat 29 January 2005, 22:19:34 +1000, Wilwilwil wrote: Is there some Logs in Win XP to track information about connections ? In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wolffe explained how to get detailed logging of the connection to an account. He said In the account directory for the specific mailbox (ie C:\programs\thebat\mail\yahoo), create the file protocol.ini and populate it with these settings: [pop] logging=0 log=pop.log [smtp] logging=0 log=smtp.log [imap] logging=0 log=imap.session Where logging 0=off and 1=on Keep tabs on the log files as they will grow quick. AND it records the account name and password in the clear. That might show you what you want to see. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange connect failed !
Hello, Something strange happens when I check for new mail : I manage 5 accounts with TB. I had no problem before, but since one week, i get a connect failed message for 2 of the 5 accounts when I check for new mail for all accounts at the same time (F11 Key). I say it's strange because when I check for new mail (F2 key), account per account, one account after one account, all the 5 accounts can connect ! It's not cool to move to each account and click five time on button or F2 key, one for each account to check for my mails ! What's happened ? Thanks for help ! -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.8 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange connect failed !
Hello WilWilWil, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 at 00:43:45 you wrote: W Hello, W Something strange happens when I check for new mail : W I manage 5 accounts with TB. All at free.fr ? W What's happened ? They decide to limit the number of simultaneous connections to 4 :( -- Regards, Alain :aggy: The Bat! 2.12.03 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange connect failed !
Hi WilWilWil, On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, at 00:43:45 [GMT+0100] (which was 10:43:45 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: I had no problem before, but since one week, i get a connect failed message for 2 of the 5 accounts when I check for new mail for all accounts at the same time (F11 Key). Your isp may now be limiting the number of simultaneous connections? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Supercollider Programming: The art of debugging your program by letting it crash and looking at what remains. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
RO You don't have a lot of filters, so you could try this. RO Copy and paste your filters from the sorting office to a text editor. RO Close TB RO Delete the account.srb file for the Wil account RO Restart TB RO Paste your filters back to the sorting office Ok, I've deleted account.srb. I've paste my filters copied before deletion. I create a new filter for known. All work ok and I don't have this strange sub-folder anymore. Thanks a lot. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hi, On Thursday, November 18, 2004 at 11:57:36 AM, WilWilWil wrote: Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more, there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks ! I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in Incoming mail section but not folders... Isn't hook an other name for someone known ? I remember that an install from fresh (not under a previous install) create a special rule and a special folder but don't remember its name. I guess it was Known people or something like that. I tried to find hook in help and found Adressing your message. -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hello Roelof, W Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in W Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more, W there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks ! W I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this W folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in W Incoming mail section but not folders... I don't know how you got this. I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of Wil's problem: http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG He probably and inadvertently hit shift+Ctrl+F while while at a message from Moving in Hooks. That created the filter and the filter triggering later on a new message from same source did create the folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about filters (or rules) and folders and sub-folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hallo MAU, On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:17:51 +0100GMT (20-11-2004, 13:17 +0100, where I live), you wrote: http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG M He probably and inadvertently hit shift+Ctrl+F while while at a message M from Moving in Hooks. That created the filter and the filter M triggering later on a new message from same source did create the M folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about M filters (or rules) and folders and sub-folders. Well, check the screenshot, it really looks like a subfolder in the sorting office. -- Groetjes, Roelof In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. The Bat! 3.0.2.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpBOjdRK4eFD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hallo WilWilWil, On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:57:36 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 11:57 +0100, where I live), you wrote: W Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in W Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more, W there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks ! Ludovic's message gave me an idea, your known filter has disappeared. I guess that's a tiny bit of filter corruption. You don't have a lot of filters, so you could try this. Copy and paste your filters from the sorting office to a text editor. Close TB Delete the account.srb file for the Wil account Restart TB Paste your filters back to the sorting office Note: Don't forget to save your outgoing (etc) filters too. -- Groetjes, Roelof Fatal error : Mac user detected ! IDIOT MODE ON. The Bat! 3.0.2.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpHDh8fbapEk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hello Roelof, M He probably and inadvertently hit shift+Ctrl+F while while at a message M from Moving in Hooks. That created the filter and the filter M triggering later on a new message from same source did create the M folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about M filters (or rules) and folders and sub-folders. Well, check the screenshot, it really looks like a subfolder in the sorting office. You are right, I didn't pay attention to the icons. It may be then just an icon display problem as Outgoing, Read, etc., also display a folder icon. Wierd! I thought he was referring to the fact of the fact being created. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hello MAU, I thought he was referring to the fact of the fact being created. ^ | filter --- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hello Roelof, Friday, November 19, 2004, 8:42:10 PM, you wrote: RO I don't know how you got this. RO I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of RO Wil's problem: Is it possible that the particular phrase Moving In Hooks comes from The Bat! itself. Since you are in the Sorting Office where Moving In, Moving Out, etc. are possible and the term Hooks is used in programming, maybe it has somehow grabbed this code from within The Bat! inadvertently. I have noticed recently that weird things seem to happen, as if code branches to somewhere it shouldn't. Not reproducible of course. For example, I had a mail check failure that stated it was trying to check my email prefix at a different ISP suffix. I do not have an account under my name at this ISP, but the place I work for does. it just seems to have mixed them up. It would not stop checking this wrong address until I restarted The Bat! -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hallo WilWilWil, On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:57:36 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 11:57 +0100, where I live), you wrote: W Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in W Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more, W there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks ! I've got no idea what you mean. Could you make a screenshot and place it somewhere on line? When you've got no means of placing things on line, send it via PM to me. Attached pictures are discouraged on this list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat, though... The Bat! 3.0.2.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp6KCado5HKf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
RO I've got no idea what you mean. Could you make a screenshot and place RO it somewhere on line? RO When you've got no means of placing things on line, send it via PM to RO me. Attached pictures are discouraged on this list. Thank you for you offer. I send you a capture now in PM. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hallo WilWilWil, On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:57:36 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 11:57 +0100, where I live), you wrote: W Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in W Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more, W there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks ! W I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this W folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in W Incoming mail section but not folders... I don't know how you got this. I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of Wil's problem: http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows! The magic of turning a 486 into a Gameboy! The Bat! 3.0.2.7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpww82a8iqHH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange folder in sorting office/filters
Hello, Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in Incoming rules, I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more, there is now a sub-folder created named Moving in Hooks ! I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in Incoming mail section but not folders... What happened ? Thanks. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange characters in view source
Hello Roelof, On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:10:34 +0200 GMT (22/10/2004, 05:10 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF Hello TBBETA, RO Wrong list? No, wrong template. That's because I had first addressed the query to TBBETA but I am not using a beta version, so this mail belonged here. Forgot to change that line above after I had manually changed to TO address. TF Message-ID:?lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] RO Saw nothing strange in that message. So either it's your system or RO your ISP. It's not my ISP, but something with my system. I use Courier New and see these weird characters. I changed the Source View font to Lucida, and now it displays correctly. Courier New works everywhere else correctly. Never mind, I'll just leave it at Lucida. -- Cheers, Thomas. The difference between a king and a president is that a king is the son of his father but a president is not. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange characters in view source
Hello TBBETA, I see weird characters in the headers. Example: X-Priority:? (Normal) Message-ID:?lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is also a square replacing the blank and the T after the colon in the To: line, but the cp from the source view (F9) doesn't show this. In fact, many headers show either question marks or squares when using the source view. No weird characters in the header view (crtl-K). Does anybody see this, or is it my system? I didn't see this under TB v2.12. -- TIA, Thomas. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange characters in view source
Hallo Thomas, On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:47:18 +0700GMT (21-10-2004, 19:47 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF Hello TBBETA, Wrong list? TF I see weird characters in the headers. Example: TF X-Priority:? (Normal) TF Message-ID:?lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF To: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saw nothing strange in that message. So either it's your system or your ISP. -- Groetjes, Roelof As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpmFjA5Boni6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange Header Manipulation
Dear all, Must send this one here as I may not receive the OTml properly due to this problem. Please have a look at this header below. When a posting is going to a special account it arrives properly on there Server (have just checked). But after leaving there Server somewhere on the road to my Server it changes the header as below. Can anyone tell my where to look for the culprit? Interesting is the change of the 'From:' and the first 'Receive:' after the 'From:' I need a firm eMail to be able in addressing someone who will look into it. Many thanks for you kind help. START: 'nobody' Header == Received: from newmail.mediasvar.se [194.17.201.37] by nt5.sserv.de with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.04) id ADBF89580240; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:20:47 +0200 Received: (qmail 15000 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2004 16:18:55 +0200 Received: from mail2.mediasvar.se (HELO ?HOSTNAME?) (194.17.201.52) by newmail.mediasvar.se with SMTP; 5 Oct 2004 16:18:55 +0200 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:19:27 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 25753 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2004 14:19:26 - Received: from unknown (HELO LawrenceOfArabia.com) (213.178.239.248) by mail2.mediasvar.se with SMTP; 5 Oct 2004 14:19:26 - X-Mailer: The best stuff :) X-Archive: expiry=7 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:20:51 +0200 Reply-To: Eddie Castelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Testing 20040925 - 1 END: 'nobody' Header == -- best regards www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current beta is 3.0.1 RC/3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Header Manipulation
Hallo Eddie, On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 17:37:18 +0200GMT (8-10-2004, 17:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: EC Received: (qmail 15000 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2004 16:18:55 +0200 EC Received: from mail2.mediasvar.se (HELO ?HOSTNAME?) (194.17.201.52) EC by newmail.mediasvar.se with SMTP; 5 Oct 2004 16:18:55 +0200 EC Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:19:27 +0200 EC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EC Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EC Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EC Received: (qmail 25753 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2004 14:19:26 - EC Received: from unknown (HELO LawrenceOfArabia.com) (213.178.239.248) EC by mail2.mediasvar.se with SMTP; 5 Oct 2004 14:19:26 - Blame mediasver.se, they own both the servers that put their received headers around the faulty From: header, my guess is that it's done at mail2.mediasver.se, since that uses _HOSTNAME as helo too. -- Groetjes, Roelof Women, like rabbits, will hop into bed at night. The Bat! 3.0.1 RC5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpliKoGJatTM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange Behaviour from The Bat!
During the download of mail from my mail server, The Bat! insisted on activating a minimized application and bringing the window to the forefront with every piece of mail. I tried reminimizing the window, without success. The Bat! brought it back on the next item downloaded. I tried keeping The Bat! at the forefront, without success. The Bat! brought the window back to the front. I even tried cancelling the application. The Bat! chose another minimized application to bedevil me. This has happened to me on two separate occasions. It doesn't appear to be serious. After cancelling and restarting The Bat, everything seems to be OK. I was merely curious if anyone else had seen this peculiar behavior. -- Best regards, Lawrence Johnson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Behaviour from The Bat!
Lawrence Johnson @ 2004-Sep-20 11:35:52 AM Strange Behaviour from The Bat! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] During the download of mail from my mail server, The Bat! insisted on activating a minimized application and bringing the window to the forefront with every piece of mail. I tried reminimizing the window, without success. The Bat! brought it back on the next item downloaded. I tried keeping The Bat! at the forefront, without success. The Bat! brought the window back to the front. I even tried cancelling the application. The Bat! chose another minimized application to bedevil me. I was merely curious if anyone else had seen this peculiar behavior. Are you perhaps using an anti-virus program that scans all incoming e-mail via a proxy? If so, try tweaking those settings. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Today's Oxymoron: Exact estimate pgploLITAh6bk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Bonjour aceman, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 3:49:55 AM, tu écrivais: In my case the angle bracket buttons have been replaced with: 4 44 3 33 r s Confirmed on Win 98Me -- Cordialement, Louis-Dominique mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hi Peter and list, On Thursday, September 9, 2004 at 07:57:51 GMT +0200 (which was 07:57 where I live) Peter Fjelsten wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses: This is a known bug. I don't know if it has been fixed in service release 3.0.0.8 Not corrected in 3.0.0.8 BTW: That happens only when your selected language is English. With intl pack intalled and another language selected the buttons are ok. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.0.8, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Bonjour Michael, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 10:18:48 AM, tu écrivais: Not corrected in 3.0.0.8 BTW: That happens only when your selected language is English. With intl pack intalled and another language selected the buttons are ok. I just got a try and you are right Michael, but reading this list since about two weeks it seems that many of users use English language. Off topic (Even french like me to improve my fluent understanding an speaking. You will judge later how much I need ;) -- Cordialement, Louis-Dominique mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hello Michael Geyer, 09-Sep-2004 10:18, you wrote: BTW: That happens only when your selected language is English. But it doesn't need to happen. No problems here. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It's a good thing money can't buy happiness. We couldn't stand the commercials. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hello Alexander, Thursday, September 9, 2004, 7:55:52 AM, you wrote: But it doesn't need to happen. No problems here. :-) What version of Windows are you using? What font(s) are you using? -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hello Terry G. Munson, 09-Sep-2004 17:06, you wrote: But it doesn't need to happen. No problems here. :-) What version of Windows are you using? XP Pro SP2 english + TB! v3 english. What font(s) are you using? I'm using Tahoma, whenever possible [1]. The adress lists entry are shown using Tahoma. I don't know which font is used to create the in the adress picker, maybe its a different one, I don't know. [1] except in TB!s editors/viewers I use Lucida Typewriter - fixed width -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Outer space is like Dolly Parton: you don't believe it, but there it is. -- Lorne Greene Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hi All The pick e-mail addresses box has strange buttons. Instead of showing and it shows numbers 4 44. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
