Re: TB POPFILE error
On Sunday, December 7, 2003, 7:33 PM, you wrote: M Maybe it is scanning *.tmp files. Or even *.TBB or *.TBI files. Can you M exclude these extensions (or TB's mail directories) from scanning? (Just M to test :)) PC not sure I want to exclude all tmp files, I think it already excludes PC windows temp files. I think I can add folders tbi tbb files.. I'll PC give it a try, thanks! well, I added those files and folders, and it STILL locks me out of getting mail every day. I sent an email over a week ago to Avast, no response so far.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-3 (05.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
Hello Paul, PC not sure I want to exclude all tmp files, I think it already excludes PC windows temp files. I think I can add folders tbi tbb files.. I'll PC give it a try, thanks! well, I added those files and folders, and it STILL locks me out of getting mail every day. When you say added, do you mean added to some exclusion list so that they are not scanned? I am not familiar with AVAST, that's why I ask. I sent an email over a week ago to Avast, no response so far.. You see, getting mail though Avast is slow ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
On Monday, December 8, 2003, 3:48 PM, you wrote: well, I added those files and folders, and it STILL locks me out of getting mail every day. M When you say added, do you mean added to some exclusion list so that M they are not scanned? I am not familiar with AVAST, that's why I ask. yes, the options in avast scanner allow you to add files and folders, file types.. etc. I sent an email over a week ago to Avast, no response so far.. M You see, getting mail though Avast is slow ;-) ar, ar, ar.. that's why I didn't dump AVG for Avast. I was trying Avast to add to AVG's capabilities, but it doesn't look like AVAST will pass the test. I can't keep turning off avast every day, to get mail. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-3 (05.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
Hello Paul, rebooting fixes it, and sometimes stopping and starting popfile fixes it. I know I am always connected to the internet, because mozilla still works, so it is a mail issue, I just don't know if it is a popfile issue or TB issue, OR a beta issue..I am using v0.20.1 of popfile. M Does it also happen if you don't use AVAST? PC I don't know, why should I turn off Avast? PC it happened again just now, I had to stop and restart popfile to get my PC mail. well, it was AVAST. I tried shutting off popfile with no luck. As soon as I turned off AVAST and retried getting mail, it flew. :-)) So why does AVAST mess with mail??? Don't you have it installed and configured to check your e-mail for viruses? and what is the answer?? For me, what I explained in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. I am not familiar with AVAST or many other anti-virus but, depending on how you have it configured, you are probably checking each message (or attachment) multiple times, maybe even many times. As an example, take one message with a *.doc file attachment. This is what the anti-virus setup of many people is probably doing: 1.- Checking the message (including att.) as it is being downloaded from the POP server. 2.- Checking it again when it is being written by TB to *tmp file. 3.- Checking it again as the *.tmp file is opened to import the message to TB's message base (and apply filter, etc.) 4.- Maybe checking it again when the whole *.ttb file for the folder where it was sorted is written end opened. I you want to open and see the attachment and you double click on it: 5.- Check the *.doc when it is written to a temp file so that MS Word can actually open it (attachments cannot be opened from TB's *.ttb file, they have to be written to a temp files, unless you are keeping you attachment not inline with message body). 6.- Check again the temp *.doc file when MS Word actually opens it for viewing. This can very well be the situation for many people. What do I do? As I explained I have my anti-virus (which happens to be McAfee) configured: - To NOT check e-mail as it comes in or goes out. - Check files ONLY when written to disk, NOT when opened. - And NOT check all files types. For example I do not check *.tmp files because they are not executable. - And I may exclude some directories. I have done this for years and I have _never_ ( and I mean _never_) been infected by a virus. Obviously enough, I am also careful about opening attachments from people I don't know or with extensions such as *.scr, *.pif, etc. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
M Does it also happen if you don't use AVAST? So why does AVAST mess with mail??? M Don't you have it installed and configured to check your e-mail for M viruses? M For me, what I explained in M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. ok, I turned off the internet mail scanner, and turned UP the resident scanner to high mode, for reading/writing/renaming files. Lets see if it was the email portion of the program. If it is the resident scanner portion, that won't be a good thing.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-3 (05.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
Hello Paul, ok, I turned off the internet mail scanner, and turned UP the resident scanner to high mode, for reading/writing/renaming files. If I was you I would only turn it for writing/renaming files. After all, you can't read something that hasn't previously been written, right? But please don't listen to me and do it the way you feel most comfortable with. I wouldn't want you to blame me if you ever get infected by a virus. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
On Sunday, December 7, 2003, 12:04 PM, you wrote: ok, I turned off the internet mail scanner, and turned UP the resident scanner to high mode, for reading/writing/renaming files. M But please don't listen to me and do it the way you feel most M comfortable with. I wouldn't want you to blame me if you ever get M infected by a virus. well, I listen and learn from everyone. Sometimes I learn what NOT to do, othertimes I learn what works:) In your case it seems to work, so.. anyway, even with AVAST internet mail turned off, it still affected TB getting mail, so I had to stop the AVAST resident scanner, get mail, then turn it back on. Avast seems to be a real problem intercepting and affecting my capability of getting mail all the time. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-3 (05.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
Hello Paul, well, I listen and learn from everyone. We all do :-) Sometimes I learn what NOT to do, othertimes I learn what works:) In your case it seems to work, so.. Well, I gave you my argument that you cannot open or read a file if it hasn't been previously written anyway, even with AVAST internet mail turned off, it still affected TB getting mail, so I had to stop the AVAST resident scanner, get mail, then turn it back on. Avast seems to be a real problem intercepting and affecting my capability of getting mail all the time. Maybe it is scanning *.tmp files. Or even *.TBB or *.TBI files. Can you exclude these extensions (or TB's mail directories) from scanning? (Just to test :)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
On Sunday, December 7, 2003, 5:17 PM, you wrote: anyway, even with AVAST internet mail turned off, it still affected TB getting mail, so I had to stop the AVAST resident scanner, get mail, then turn it back on. Avast seems to be a real problem intercepting and affecting my capability of getting mail all the time. M Maybe it is scanning *.tmp files. Or even *.TBB or *.TBI files. Can you M exclude these extensions (or TB's mail directories) from scanning? (Just M to test :)) not sure I want to exclude all tmp files, I think it already excludes windows temp files. I think I can add folders tbi tbb files.. I'll give it a try, thanks! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-3 (05.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
On Sunday, November 30, 2003, 3:34 PM, you wrote: rebooting fixes it, and sometimes stopping and starting popfile fixes it. I know I am always connected to the internet, because mozilla still works, so it is a mail issue, I just don't know if it is a popfile issue or TB issue, OR a beta issue..I am using v0.20.1 of popfile. M Does it also happen if you don't use AVAST? PC I don't know, why should I turn off Avast? PC it happened again just now, I had to stop and restart popfile to get my PC mail. well, it was AVAST. I tried shutting off popfile with no luck. As soon as I turned off AVAST and retried getting mail, it flew. So why does AVAST mess with mail??? and what is the answer?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-3 (05.12.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
Hello Paul, so, what AV do you use? None. Well, none for e-mail. I have McAfee running in my system but scanning files ONLY when being _written_ to disk. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
On Sunday, November 30, 2003, 4:11 PM, you wrote: M Does it also happen if you don't use AVAST? M My POPFile has been running for many months without a single re-start M needed. Only when upgrading to a new version. so, what AV do you use? If it happens ( when?) again, I'll turn avast off for a while to see if that helps... -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-1 (28.11.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB POPFILE error
I have had a problem recently where I go away from the computer, while it does something CPU intensive. When I come back and start TB, or if it is running try to check mail, I get an error from every mailbox that uses popfile. The error is at the bottom of te TB window, the log panel. The error is something like: ERR: box locked rebooting fixes it, and sometimes stopping and starting popfile fixes it. I know I am always connected to the internet, because mozilla still works, so it is a mail issue, I just don't know if it is a popfile issue or TB issue, OR a beta issue..I am using v0.20.1 of popfile. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-1 (28.11.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
Hello Paul, rebooting fixes it, and sometimes stopping and starting popfile fixes it. I know I am always connected to the internet, because mozilla still works, so it is a mail issue, I just don't know if it is a popfile issue or TB issue, OR a beta issue..I am using v0.20.1 of popfile. Does it also happen if you don't use AVAST? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
rebooting fixes it, and sometimes stopping and starting popfile fixes it. I know I am always connected to the internet, because mozilla still works, so it is a mail issue, I just don't know if it is a popfile issue or TB issue, OR a beta issue..I am using v0.20.1 of popfile. M Does it also happen if you don't use AVAST? I don't know, why should I turn off Avast? it happened again just now, I had to stop and restart popfile to get my mail. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.56 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nov2003 (4.1.304) (avast! version number) 0311-1 (28.11.2003) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.304 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB POPFILE error
Hello Paul, M Does it also happen if you don't use AVAST? I don't know, why should I turn off Avast? To verify if it also happens while AVAST is turned off? :-)) What would you think if it didn't happen while AVAST is of? Would you still blame POPFile? it happened again just now, I had to stop and restart popfile to get my mail. My POPFile has been running for many months without a single re-start needed. Only when upgrading to a new version. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
