Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Greg! On Saturday, July 03, 2004, 10:18 PM, you wrote: MB>> Then Greg Strong posted this solution. And he felt so strongly about MB>> it ,,, GS> I did because I do feel strongly about it (pun intended). :-) ... Confession: the pun was at first unconscious on my part, Greg--I wouldn't have intentionally made a play on your name--but I spotted it the minute I'd sent the post. Thought the best thing was to let it ride. I'm so glad you didn't take offence. :) GS> ...I do use threading and don't read all messages. Cntrl+Shft+M GS> comes in very handy, but is only good when people maintain GS> conversation which relates to original subject. ... Well, I'm trying, but sometimes it's hard. For instance, it was important to me to respond to your comment about the pun. But that doesn't relate to the subject. Yet, the main part of what I wanted to say, although it's the shorter part in words, is subject-relevant. GS> ... If conversation changes, then I might mark messages read that GS> I may have wanted to read, but didn't know it. Hope that makes GS> sense! Yes, it does. But, it would have felt as if I were tearing our exchange of ideas apart, making what I said back to you stiff and stilted, and additionally, requiring background explanation, if I had sent a new thread about my accidental pun, and responded only to your last two or three sentences on this thread. As I said earlier, I think the different styles of using threading (or, as in my case, no threading) require patience and much practice in the art of compromise. But, thanks to you, I believe I have the mechanics of changing the thread when I think a change would benefit those posting to it (including myself!) down pat. That is, I believe the easy, quick mechanical routine is almost automatic for me now. CCing to tbot, because here I feel equally challenged about deciding how far off topic I may be straying in this reply. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Mary, Friday, July 2, 2004, 6:40:15 PM, Mary Bull wrote: MB> Then Greg Strong posted this solution. And he felt so strongly about MB> it that he sent it to tbudl and tbbeta also. (I know that because I'm MB> subscribed to both those lists, also.) I did because I do feel strongly about it (pun intended). :-) I do use threading and don't read all messages. Cntrl+Shft+M comes in very handy, but is only good when people maintain conversation which relates to original subject. If conversation changes, then I might mark messages read that I may have wanted to read, but didn't know it. Hope that makes sense! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
On Friday, July 2, 2004, 7:24 PM, you wrote: kg> With TBUDL in my address book and auto-complete on, a new message to kg> the list is as simple as Ctrl+N and typing "tbu" in the To: field. kg> Surely simpler/easier/quicker/lazier than what you describe? it can be, but I also have extenuating circumstances :) then it depends what account you are in when you do that.. what folder/account are you in when you do that ... -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-1 (02.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Ken! On Friday, July 02, 2004, 6:24 PM, you wrote: PC>> When I'm too lazy to start a new message and find the addressbook PC>> entry, I just hit reply, remove those references, and change the subject PC>> to what I want it to say :) a cheaters way to create a new message. kg> With TBUDL in my address book and auto-complete on, a new message to kg> the list is as simple as Ctrl+N and typing "tbu" in the To: field. kg> Surely simpler/easier/quicker/lazier than what you describe? Not if you want to quote something from an earlier message, yet begin a new thread. The content of this discussion began in an effort to come to a compromise among tbot subscribers as to how to keep threads from "wandering" and additionally becoming longer than was comfortable for some of tbot's members. The work-arounds were feeling quite clumsy to some of the more long-winded, freewheeling posters, of which I was one. Then Greg Strong posted this solution. And he felt so strongly about it that he sent it to tbudl and tbbeta also. (I know that because I'm subscribed to both those lists, also.) I've been using Greg's solution on tbot--where we don't actually have such stringent rules as on tbudl, and where more visiting and banter go on. It's an easier way for me to continue the conversation and use The Bat!'s wonderful quoting capability--and yet not disturb those who depend strongly on its threading capability to keep up with what's being said and who want threads shorter and subject lines more relevant. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Paul Cartwright wrote: > When I'm too lazy to start a new message and find the addressbook > entry, I just hit reply, remove those references, and change the subject > to what I want it to say :) a cheaters way to create a new message. With TBUDL in my address book and auto-complete on, a new message to the list is as simple as Ctrl+N and typing "tbu" in the To: field. Surely simpler/easier/quicker/lazier than what you describe? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:55 PM, you wrote: >> Removing them also removes the "thread by reference " capability, >> which makes it like a new message, not a reply. TGM> Which, I assume, was the result wanted that started the original TGM> thread.~shrug~ right. changing the subject alone is not enough, you need to remove the follow-references. Now that we all understand that, lets move on to regex expressions!! ( just kidding!! :) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-0 (29.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Terry! On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:55 PM, you wrote: PC>> Removing them also removes the "thread by reference " capability, PC>> which makes it like a new message, not a reply. TGM> Which, I assume, was the result wanted that started the original TGM> thread.~shrug~ But, having identified that "Follow up" functions like the References header (TGM: "follow up" would be "references" in version 2.00), I think it would be useful to state that to have this threading management occur as Paul said, one needs to choose "Thread by References" in the View menu--the "Follow up" choice that Paul was explaining not being apparently there (no such words) in the copy of The Bat! that subscriber2list is using. Just speaking from an old newbie's point of view. YMMV. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Paul, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:51:00 PM, you wrote: > Removing them also removes the "thread by reference " capability, > which makes it like a new message, not a reply. Which, I assume, was the result wanted that started the original thread.~shrug~ -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:32 PM, you wrote: TGM>> I think "follow up" would be "references" in version 2.00. s> Not sure if this is going to work, but ... I obviously hit Reply s> to your original message, changed the Subject field content, selected s> "References" from the context menu which displayed a number of s> message numbers, deleted them and now will send this off and see ... s> what happens! if you go to the VIEW menu, and select follow-up, you can see all the previous messages in that thread. Removing them also removes the "thread by reference " capability, which makes it like a new message, not a reply. When I'm too lazy to start a new message and find the addressbook entry, I just hit reply, remove those references, and change the subject to what I want it to say :) a cheaters way to create a new message. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-0 (29.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Terry, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:30:26 PM, you wrote: TGM> Hello subscriber2list, TGM> Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:54:48 AM, you wrote: >> Again, not available to click on. TGM> I think "follow up" would be "references" in version 2.00. Not sure if this is going to work, but ... I obviously hit Reply to your original message, changed the Subject field content, selected "References" from the context menu which displayed a number of message numbers, deleted them and now will send this off and see ... what happens! -- Best regards, subscriber2listmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
