Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello Paul, On Thursday, August 13, 2015 you wrote: PB Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB Thursday, August 13, 2015, 3:26:56 AM, you wrote: PB Don't know if this is any help, but Tools - Restore - lets you restore PB Address Books from a backup. Indeed it does, however, that option (restore the address books) is already ticked by default in the restore options window. It should have restored the address books when I did a full restore after re-loading the 5.2.2 TB but it didn't. Just to make sure, I did several more restores from the two backups I have with ONLY the restore address books option ticked. Still no luck. As mentioned before, the .ABD files I have, particularly the one named JACK.ABD contains my addresses which appear when I do a hex dump of the files. I just noticed that my sig now shows up which means this message obtained a template from somewhere other than the address book. Well, stick a fork in me and call me done. Noticing the appearance off my sig just now prompted me to take another look at my address book and guess what... Yes, everything is back where it's supposed to be. All my addresses are in my address books and they're even in the NEW MESSAGE drop-down list. Yet another effort by TB! to send me off into senility sooner that I would be otherwise. My sincere thanks to all who contributed suggestions which apparently got this thing fixed, although I'm not sure which one did it. I'm going to spend some time now looking into automatic backups of TB! and perhaps even imaging my hard drive periodically. What the heck, couldn't hurt right? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver 5.2.2, OS: Windows 7 Pro ver 6, build 7601, Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, August 13, 2015, 3:26:56 AM, you wrote: JSL Hello TBUDLers, JSL I have managed to cure the stated problem regarding not being able to delete JSL messages by doing a deep un-install of TB using Revo then re-installing the JSL 5.2.2 msi file. The only problem remaining is my empty address book(s). I JSL copied all .ABD files to a safe location before I deleted TB (even though I JSL couldn't access the address books at the time) and have checked to see that they JSL contain my addresses by doing a hex dump of the files. I then copied them into JSL C:PROGRAM FILES(x86)\THE BAT!\ and JSL C:\USERS\JACK\APPDATA\ROAMING\THE BAT! all JSL to no avail. Can I get TB to recognize these files and restore access to all my JSL addresses? JSL Many thanks in advance, JSL Jack JSL OS: Windows 7 Home JSL JSL Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: JSL http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Don't know if this is any help, but Tools - Restore - lets you restore Address Books from a backup. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Please write your complaint legibly in this box --[]. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello TBUDLers, I have managed to cure the stated problem regarding not being able to delete messages by doing a deep un-install of TB using Revo then re-installing the 5.2.2 msi file. The only problem remaining is my empty address book(s). I copied all .ABD files to a safe location before I deleted TB (even though I couldn't access the address books at the time) and have checked to see that they contain my addresses by doing a hex dump of the files. I then copied them into C:PROGRAM FILES(x86)\THE BAT!\ and C:\USERS\JACK\APPDATA\ROAMING\THE BAT! all to no avail. Can I get TB to recognize these files and restore access to all my addresses? Many thanks in advance, Jack OS: Windows 7 Home Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hi On Friday 7 August 2015 at 2:25:41 PM, in mid:1324726406.20150807082...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Something happened yesterday which has cause me to lose my entire address book Is the mail directory still correct under Options | Preferences | System? You could try searching for a file called ADDRBOOK.INI. (If you find more than one, you probably want the most recent modified date.) Assuming the file is still where you think it should be (in my case, it's in the mail directory), you could try Load Address Book Set from the File menu in the address book window. and I am now prevented from deleting messages. In addition, my new message favorites drop-down list is now empty. It looks as though the address book and the drop-down list have reverted back to a brand new installation in that the only address book entry is one for RIT Labs support which I assume would be included in a brand new installation. The drop-down list contains only new template and quick templates. Again, as I assume it looked when TB was first installed. Presumably that's the list that should show all your quick templates. For each account they are stored in one of the ACCOUNT.XXX files; I think in this cast XXX=QTB, but I might be wrong, or it may be different in your TB! version. I can no longer delete messages. Selected messages DO disappear when the trash can is clicked on or the DELETE key is pressed but as soon as I change focus to another folder and back to the folder where I did the deletes, all of the deleted messages are still there. Maybe your message base has become read-only. Can you still move/copy messages from one folder to another? What happens with incoming messages? Windows System Restore won't run because some file is supposedly corrupted and a re-installation of TB on top of the existing proved in-affective. I am considering deleting the current installation of TB and trying the re-install again. Maybe the TB! registry entry is corrupted? If the fresh install doesn't work either, you could try exporting and saving the registry key, then deleting it from the registry, and having another go. The only thing I can think of which may have played a pert in this is my download and test of something called Wise Care 365 which is supposed to clean up and speed up your PC. I foolishly allowed it to delete registry entries which it deemed clutter and other non-registry junk files. I have no way of knowing if that program was the culprit (it has since been deleted) because several hours elapsed before I went back to TB and discovered the problems. Were all traces of Wise Care deleted? Or if you re-installed Wise Care, would it see the changes it made previously and be able to roll them back? Good luck. -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Greater than being great is being grateful. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
8/8/2015 7:17 AM Hi Jack, On 8/7/2015 Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL The only thing I can think of which may have played a pert in this is my JSL download and test of something called Wise Care 365 which is supposed to clean JSL up and speed up your PC. I foolishly allowed it to delete registry entries JSL which it deemed clutter and other non-registry junk files. I have no way of JSL knowing if that program was the culprit (it has since been deleted) because JSL several hours elapsed before I went back to TB and discovered the problems. JSL Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated. I have used Wise Registry Cleaner for years in Win 7 Pro with great success. It automatically creates a registry backup. It is important to review registry and/or file deletions before executing the deletion action. No cleaner application can know all the nuances of all programs... Hopefully a re-installation of Wise Cleaner will find the backup it created. - -- Paul The Bat! v.6.7.7.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello Paul, Since I didn't get any responses to my query by yesterday I had already decided to try deleting TB and re-installing then restoring from a backup. So today (Sat) after looking at my mail on the Charter server and seeing your message, I decided to go for it. I first made a new backup and then used Revo to do a deep un-install. Once TB was completely gone I re-installed it and as you may or may not remember, TB asks you if you want to do a restore from backup while you're in the middle of the re-installation. I answered yes and proceeded with the restore. Once completed, all of my accounts and corresponding messages were where they were supposed to be (whew!). The next thing was to test the message deletion process which to my great relief, worked as expected. Again whew! So far the only thing that is still messed up is/are my address book(s). They/it still looks like you would expect after a fresh installation of TB. Nothing but the bare essentials. That's why this reply has none of the customary salutations, quoted text, and sig. Fortunately (I hope) I copied every file with the extension ABD and saved them to an external drive. So, do you suppose I can just copy those ABD files into the same directory which currently contains the new, bare bones address book? And if so, can we expect my NEW MESSAGE drop-down list to be restored or is this all going to be more complicated than that? My profound thanks to you and all the others who responded and I would now ask for help with the above paragraph. Sincerely, Jack LaRosa Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello fellow TBUDLer's Something happened yesterday which has cause me to lose my entire address book and I am now prevented from deleting messages. In addition, my new message favorites drop-down list is now empty. It looks as though the address book and the drop-down list have reverted back to a brand new installation in that the only address book entry is one for RIT Labs support which I assume would be included in a brand new installation. The drop-down list contains only new template and quick templates. Again, as I assume it looked when TB was first installed. I can no longer delete messages. Selected messages DO disappear when the trash can is clicked on or the DELETE key is pressed but as soon as I change focus to another folder and back to the folder where I did the deletes, all of the deleted messages are still there. Windows System Restore won't run because some file is supposedly corrupted and a re-installation of TB on top of the existing proved in-affective. I am considering deleting the current installation of TB and trying the re-install again. The only thing I can think of which may have played a pert in this is my download and test of something called Wise Care 365 which is supposed to clean up and speed up your PC. I foolishly allowed it to delete registry entries which it deemed clutter and other non-registry junk files. I have no way of knowing if that program was the culprit (it has since been deleted) because several hours elapsed before I went back to TB and discovered the problems. Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Jack LaRosa TB! ver. 5.2.2 PRO Win 7 HOME Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, August 7, 2015, 11:25:41 PM, you wrote: JSL Hello fellow TBUDLer's JSL Something happened yesterday which has cause me to lose my entire address book JSL and I am now prevented from deleting messages. In addition, my new message JSL favorites drop-down list is now empty. It looks as though the address book JSL and the drop-down list have reverted back to a brand new installation in that JSL the only address book entry is one for RIT Labs support which I assume would be JSL included in a brand new installation. The drop-down list contains only new JSL template and quick templates. Again, as I assume it looked when TB was first JSL installed. JSL I can no longer delete messages. Selected messages DO disappear when the trash JSL can is clicked on or the DELETE key is pressed but as soon as I change focus to JSL another folder and back to the folder where I did the deletes, all of the JSL deleted messages are still there. JSL Windows System Restore won't run because some file is supposedly corrupted and a JSL re-installation of TB on top of the existing proved in-affective. I am JSL considering deleting the current installation of TB and trying the re-install JSL again. JSL The only thing I can think of which may have played a pert in this is my JSL download and test of something called Wise Care 365 which is supposed to clean JSL up and speed up your PC. I foolishly allowed it to delete registry entries JSL which it deemed clutter and other non-registry junk files. I have no way of JSL knowing if that program was the culprit (it has since been deleted) because JSL several hours elapsed before I went back to TB and discovered the problems. JSL Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated. JSL Sincerely, JSL Jack LaRosa JSL TB! ver. 5.2.2 PRO JSL Win 7 HOME JSL JSL Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: JSL http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html If it is any help: Can you roll back changes in Wise Care 365? If you have a backup of TheBat, try uninstalling it with something like Revo uninstaller, and then reboot, re-install and restore from the backup. Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book
Hello Christopher, For some reason, my TheBat-users tend to loose their adress book settings. They have a company-wide adress book that is originally set as default, but after the event it is no longer registered in the adress book browser. Is this an LDAP directory? No, just a file on a network drive shared by a few clients. Might there be a race condition when a second client tries to load the file that is just being written by the first one? And if unsuccessful once, the TheBat instance forgets all about the file it couldn't load this once? I want to re-add it and set it as default by remote, without the user necessarily being logged in. How can I do that? Would a group policy or login script work? Yes, this would work very well. I could even ask the users to execute a script when it's that time again, but I can't ask them to edit the registry and I can't import a *.reg file either because TheBat names the adress book keys incrementally (book3 is not loaded if there is no book2 key). By the way, is this still true in the first place? Do you have an other idea how to realize this? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpmT34vZZWXI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book
Alto Speckhardt @ 2008-4-15 2:13:22 AM adress book mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For some reason, my TheBat-users tend to loose their adress book settings. They have a company-wide adress book that is originally set as default, but after the event it is no longer registered in the adress book browser. Is this an LDAP directory? I want to re-add it and set it as default by remote, without the user necessarily being logged in. How can I do that? Would a group policy or login script work? -- Christopher Using The Bat! v4.0.18 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing POP3 and IMAP4 mailboxs. Today's Oxymoron: Genuine imitation pgpQ8XUxPBY09.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
adress book
Hi all, can anybody help me on how to import an adress book remotley? For some reason, my TheBat-users tend to loose their adress book settings. They have a company-wide adress book that is originally set as default, but after the event it is no longer registered in the adress book browser. I want to re-add it and set it as default by remote, without the user necessarily being logged in. How can I do that? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpJ43yVkk4z2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hello Roelof Otten, @Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 12:05 you wrote: Hallo Ralph, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:51:21 +0100GMT (8-11-2004, 11:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R The only problem remaining is, that the %CURSOR macro doesn't R work anymore. The cursor stays in the To: field in front of the R adressee... Is that on new messages, replies. On messages with account, folder, address book templates. Or whatever. On new messages with address book (group) templates, the cursor stays right in front of the adressee. In replies everything works flawlessly... -- Regards, Ralph The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Ralph @ 2004-Nov-10 3:24:14 PM adress book macros mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On new messages with address book (group) templates, the cursor stays right in front of the adressee. In replies everything works flawlessly... Do you mean that it is in the box where you type the e-mail address of the person you are sending the message to? If so, that is by design. If you tab into the message body, you will find that the cursor starts where it should. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Billboard on the side of the road: Keep your eyes on the road and stop reading these signs. pgpgNqvqzNQ2U.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hello Chris, @Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 23:26 you wrote: Ralph @ 2004-Nov-10 3:24:14 PM adress book macros mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On new messages with address book (group) templates, the cursor stays right in front of the adressee. In replies everything works flawlessly... Do you mean that it is in the box where you type the e-mail address of the person you are sending the message to? If so, that is by design. If you tab into the message body, you will find that the cursor starts where it should. thanx. The most obvious things are the ones, that are easiest missed... ;-) -- Regards, Ralph The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hallo Ralph, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 01:46:19 +0100GMT (8-11-2004, 1:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R As far as i understood right now, the sex-field (male, female, R none) acts as an if-clause, right. and i can use it with R %ABToGender, got that too. Yep, that's right. R but what is the name prefix for then? You can use that too of course, but as I tend to stop entering data after I complete the first page, I also tend to forget those other fields. Of course you can use the prefix too. In that case you can use a wider variety of prefixes: Mr, Miss, Mrs, Prof, Dude, whatever. As you mentioned before, you'd only like to use it when it's entered and no extra space, so you'd get something as: %If:%ABToNamePrefix=::%ABToNamePrefix %- -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 019 User error - Not our fault. Is Not! Is Not! The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp1CkqqW8ffs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hallo Ralph, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 03:43:36 +0100GMT (8-11-2004, 3:43 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R Guten Tag %If:%ABToGender=2:Frau :%- R %If:%ABToGender=1:Herr :%- R %If:%ABToGender=0::%-%ABToName=%ToName, That would do fine, two comments though. With your last check you check whether you have nothing to do or nothing to do. ;-) So you'd do best to forget about that. Also I was using the %- macro to enhance the readability. It does nothing but tell TB to ignore the fact the it's the end of a line, so when you place something right behind it, you can forget it. So my result would be: Guten Tag %If:%ABToGender=2:Frau :%- %If:%ABToGender=1:Herr :%- %ABToName=%ToName, Or Guten Tag %If:%ABToGender=2:Frau :%- %If:%ABToGender=1:Herr :%ABToName=%ToName, Or even Guten Tag %If:%ABToGender=2:Frau :%If:%ABToGender=1:Herr :%ABToName=%ToName, I didn't realize that you were looking for something in German. Robin Anson placed a quick template in the macro repository http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php to address multiple recipients and Jurgen Haug and I playedwith it and we came with an adaption in German, that looked like this: %REM= Include lasttnames of all recipients in greeting up to the maximum number specified in %_GAR_Max. Uses The Bat! v2 syntax. Written by Robin Anson 19 Oct 2003 Updated 28 May 2004 Modified a tiny bit by Roelof Otten on request of Jurgen Haug 23 July 2004 %- %- %REM= %_GAR_Max stores the maximum number of names you want in the greeting line. Set this to suit your needs. %_GAR_Default stores a default greeting to use when the message has more than %_GAR_Max recipients. Set this to suit your needs. %_GAR_No is the number of names in the greeting. %_GAR_Text stores the original list of recipients. %_GAR_Temp stores the list of recipients yet to be processed. %_GAR_To stores the greeting. %- %- %REM= Adjust the %_GAR_Max and %GAR_Default values in the next lines to suit your needs %- %_GAR_Max=4%- %_GAR_Default=Everyone,%- %- %-%If:~%To~=~~::~%- %If:#%_GAR_No#=##%- :#%- %_GAR_No=0%- %_GAR_Text=%ToList%- %_GAR_Temp=%_GAR_Text,%- %_GAR_To=%- %QInclude(Greet_All_Recipients)#%- :#%- %IfN:~~%_GAR_No~~=~~%_GAR_Max~~%- :~~%- %_GAR_No=%Calculate(%_GAR_No+1)%- %If:'%setpattregexp=@%regexpmatch=%_GAR_Temp'''%- :'%setpattregexp=(?i)^((?:.*?)@(?:.*?))(?:,|;)\s*(.*)?%- %regexpblindmatch=%_GAR_Temp%- %To=%To=+%subpatt=1+%- %_GAR_Temp=+%Subpatt=2+%- %_GAR_To=%_GAR_To%-Guten %IF:$%TIME$$10$:$Morgen $:$Tag $%- %IF:$%ABTOGENDER$=$2$:$Frau $:$Herr $%- %Capital(%ABToHandle=^%ABToLName=+%ToLName+^), %- %QInclude(Greet_All_Recipients)'%- :'%_GAR_To'~~ :~~%GAR_Default~~%- %To=%To=%_GAR_Text%- #~ Save all texts between the long lines as a quick template called Greet_All_Recipients. That name is important, because it calls itself recursively. Whenever you'd like to use it you use this macro: %QInclude(Greet_All_Recipients) Quick templates (on this list commonly named QT) can be inserted in the QT editor: Options - Quick Templates The nice thing about this template is that it picks the addressing part too. When you're sending your message in the morning, it'll say Guten Morgen, otherwise it says Guten Tag It's a bit more formal than you might like, as it doesn't use any first names, but than again it triggers the handle first, when you've entered that. But you can change that by altering this: %Capital(%ABToHandle=^%ABToLName=+%ToLName+^), %- into this: %Capital(%ABToHandle=^%ABToName=+%ToName+^), %- I guess you don't follow me any longer, so I now I quit. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy of Windows95. - Satan The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpXFtaAA5cX8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hello Roelof Otten, @Montag, 08. November 2004, 10:42 you wrote: Guten Tag %If:%ABToGender=2:Frau :%If:%ABToGender=1:Herr :%ABToName=%ToName, thank you, slowly i get an understanding of what all those expressions mean and what they do. The above example works great - but the %CURSOR position is still not recognized anymore. I didn't realize that you were looking for something in German. Robin Anson placed a quick template in the macro repository http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php to address multiple recipients and Jurgen Haug and I playedwith it and we came with an adaption in German, that looked like this: gotta play with that tonite... a lot of work but saves a lot of writing ;-) -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hello Roelof Otten, @Montag, 08. November 2004, 10:10 you wrote: Of course you can use the prefix too. In that case you can use a wider variety of prefixes: Mr, Miss, Mrs, Prof, Dude, whatever. As you mentioned before, you'd only like to use it when it's entered and no extra space, so you'd get something as: %If:%ABToNamePrefix=::%ABToNamePrefix %- Thats even more exactly what i needed. Do i interpret it right this way: If nameprefix != null, nameprefix = nameprefix, else namprefix = (empty string)? -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hello Roelof Otten, @Monday, November 8, 2004, 11:45 you wrote: Hallo Ralph, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:59:29 +0100GMT (8-11-2004, 10:59 +0100, where I live), you wrote: %If:%ABToNamePrefix=::%ABToNamePrefix %- R Thats even more exactly what i needed. I thought so. R Do i interpret it right this R way: If nameprefix != null, nameprefix = nameprefix, else namprefix = R (empty string)? Not quite, it's the other way around :gdr: If nameprefix = null Then nothing Else nameprefix anyway i got it now. thanx for your help again. The only problem remaining is, that the %CURSOR macro doesn't work anymore. The cursor stays in the To: field in front of the adressee... -- Regards, Ralph The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hallo Ralph, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:51:21 +0100GMT (8-11-2004, 11:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R The only problem remaining is, that the %CURSOR macro doesn't R work anymore. The cursor stays in the To: field in front of the R adressee... Is that on new messages, replies. On messages with account, folder, address book templates. Or whatever. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vegi. (I came, I saw, I had a salad) The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpglcl5DhpTb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
adress book macros
Hello, i need some help to accomplish the following: i have a certain group in my adress book, called e.g. A. Most of the entries have first name and last name but some don't. So the template for this group for new mails, replies and forwards is %ABTOFIRSTNAME %ABTOLASTNAME. But like i said, some entries don't have the corresponding fields filled out correctly. So, is there a way to create an if-macro? I mean, if the corresponding fields are filled out correctly use %ABTOFIRSTNAME %ABTOLASTNAME, if not us %TONAME... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hello Roelof Otten, @Sonntag, 07. November 2004, 23:52 you wrote: Hallo Ralph, On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 12:06:57 +0100GMT (7-11-2004, 12:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R So, is there a way to create an if-macro? I mean, if the R corresponding fields are filled out correctly use %ABTOFIRSTNAME R %ABTOLASTNAME, if not us %TONAME... The easiest way would be to use %ABToName instead of %ABToFirstName and %ABToLastName, that way you can use the build in shortcut: %ABToName=%ToName Of course you can use %ABToFirstName=%ToFName and %ABToLastName=%ToLName, but %ToFName and %ToLName give the same result when the To header contains only one name part. There is the option to use an %If macro like this %IF:%ABToFirstName%ABToLastName=:%ToName:%ABToFirstName %ABToLastName but this hurts my feelings for esthetics. (Apart from forgetting about any middle names that might be very important for the addressee.) thank you for your help. another thing i forgot before is, that i want to add a prefix like Mr. or Ms. if available and no empty space if not. can you help me here as well? -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hallo Ralph, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:44:58 +0100GMT (8-11-2004, 0:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R thank you for your help. another thing i forgot before is, that i want R to add a prefix like Mr. or Ms. if available and no empty space if R not. can you help me here as well? That can be done with the %ABToGender macro, it gives three possible results: 0=unknown, 1=male, 2=female You could use something like this: %If:%ABToGender=2:Ms. :%- %If:%ABToGender=1:Mr. :%- %If:%ABToGender=0:Mystical creature of unknown gender :%- -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 004: Erroneous error - nothing is wrong The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpYjefnlr8qk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book macros
Hello Roelof Otten, @Montag, 08. November 2004, 01:34 you wrote: Hallo Ralph, On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:44:58 +0100GMT (8-11-2004, 0:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: R thank you for your help. another thing i forgot before is, that i want R to add a prefix like Mr. or Ms. if available and no empty space if R not. can you help me here as well? That can be done with the %ABToGender macro, it gives three possible results: 0=unknown, 1=male, 2=female You could use something like this: %If:%ABToGender=2:Ms. :%- %If:%ABToGender=1:Mr. :%- %If:%ABToGender=0:Mystical creature of unknown gender :%- i'm new to TB and all those macros confuse me a little... A little example: i have John (male) and Jane (female) in my adress book in the same group. Now according to their sex or their name prefix (in the adressbook) i want to salutate them, either with e.g. Dear Mr. John, and My dearest Ms. Jane, . Can you help me set that up? Maybe write me a template (just the salutation part) for this example? As far as i understood right now, the sex-field (male, female, none) acts as an if-clause, right. and i can use it with %ABToGender, got that too. but what is the name prefix for then? -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book makros
Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:47:41 +0200 (4:47 PM EDT here) Ralph wrote: somebody i don't have in my adress book writes me, i add them to adress book and reply - but i want to reply with e.g. Hello firstname lastname, with the info from the adress book and not the name, the sender of the to be replied mail uses, e.g., if he / she doesn't use a name after all, i just have Hello emailadress,... You might want to look at the following templates in TB!'s Macro and QT Library http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php . Greet All Recipients (this is the one I use) http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php#greet+all+recipients Smart Addressing http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php#smart+addressing As they stand, the templates' greetings are by first name (when known), but you might want to consider modifying them. Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
adress book makros
Hello, i use TB a lot for online auctions and make adress book entries for all my customers. What i want to do, but can't figure out how to, is the following: somebody i don't have in my adress book writes me, i add them to adress book and reply - but i want to reply with e.g. Hello firstname lastname, with the info from the adress book and not the name, the sender of the to be replied mail uses, e.g., if he / she doesn't use a name after all, i just have Hello emailadress,... I hope, i made myself clear, what i want to do and someone can help me... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book makros
Hello Ralph, 06-Sep-2004 22:47, you wrote: somebody i don't have in my adress book writes me, i add them to adress book and reply - but i want to reply with e.g. Hello firstname lastname, with the info from the adress book and not the name, the sender of the to be replied mail uses, e.g., if he / she doesn't use a name after all, i just have Hello emailadress,... You maybe already have an adress book group for your customers (if not, create one). Simply open the properties of that group and adjust the templates for new messages and/or replies, using macros that pull the information from the adress book (like %ABFromFName, etc. - refer to the helpfile section Macros). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If a dog's prayers were answered, bones would rain from the sky. -- Turkish Proverb Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
ON Saturday, August 14, 2004, 3:27:17 PM, you wrote: RO The advantage of different ABs is that you can let different accounts RO default to different ABs. Hi Roelof, Were is this options set? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On a recent survey, 80 percent of golfers admitted cheating. The other 20 percent lied. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
Hello Zonnet, Tuesday, August 17, 2004, 3:24:00 PM, you wrote: Z Hi Roelof, Z Were is this options set? if you highlight the account in the main window and select ACCOUNT-PROPERTIES look in the GENERAL tab, down near the bottom, DEFAULT ADDRESSBOOK. I have 2 options, mine my wifes:) -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
ON Tuesday, August 17, 2004, 11:06:14 PM, you wrote: PC if you highlight the account in the main window and select PC ACCOUNT-PROPERTIES PC look in the GENERAL tab, down near the bottom, DEFAULT ADDRESSBOOK. PC I have 2 options, mine my wifes:) Hi Paul, Thanks. I know of some good uses for that option. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Break - 1.The shifting or changing of the direction of a putt caused by the slope or slant of a green. 2. The splitting or shattering of the shaft of a putter caused by the rage or wrath of a player who misread the break. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
I use the address book groups very heavily. It acts as my contact manager and the fields for Internet links will link to local files also. I don't let it hide entries that are included in a group, so that the default always shows the whole lot. In a couple of years I have hammered it and it has never once let me down. Hope this is helpful. -- Peter in New Zealand. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
Hello. Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? If some people could write how they're using the adress book(s) or groups it would give me the right inspiration, maybe. :-) Thanks -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) In a way, science must be described as paranoid thinking applied to nature: we are looking for natural conspiracies, for connections among apparently disparate data. -- Carl Sagan Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
On Saturday, August 14, 2004 it appears that Alexander wrote the following in regards to Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups: ASK Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress ASK books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? Hi Alexander. I don't see any advantages of using different address books unless I am creating a mailing list of some kind not spam where each person is addressed individually. Otherwise, I use one AB with groups as it's easier to filter for. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 Lucky Beta/5 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
Hallo Alexander, On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:19:22 +0200GMT (14-8-2004, 14:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ASK Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress ASK books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? If some people ASK could write how they're using the adress book(s) or groups it would give me ASK the right inspiration, maybe. :-) The advantage of different ABs is that you can let different accounts default to different ABs. That means that the entries in one account's AB can be inaccessible to other accounts. Thus enabling you to have multiple entries for the same contact (in different ABs) and still have the expected output when you're using different AB-templates for each of them. This could come in handy when you're having a contact that's both a personal friend and a business contact and you want to use different AB templates in depending on the account (and thus the AB) that you're using. The advantage of one AB is that all of your contacts are available to all accounts. You can do your filtering based on AB-groups (you can't filter on the ABs themselves). When a contact changes his address, you don't have to go through all of your ABs, just change it in your one AB. As I'm doing a lot of filtering based on ABs, my preference is clear. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups
On 8/14/2004 5:19 AM my time, Alexander wrote: ASK Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress ASK books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? Hi Alexander, I have a specific address group for contacts from my Church. One which is separate from my others. I have filters which are created for that specific group helps me, which include some color filters as well as auto responders from time to time. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Life would be much easier if I had the source code. pgpCDLiA3B1oe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress book filter
Hi Jim, on Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 +GMT (26.11.02, 14:14 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JL Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender JL was in the address book. I would be grateful if this could be JL reposted. I sent a reply yesterday, but it didn't get through yet. So here's another try: The built-in Known filter does this. It can be activated to move mails from AB contacts to a particular folder. -- Cheers Peter Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. W. Somerset Maugham Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress book filter
Hello Jim, On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 + GMT (26/11/02, 20:14 +0700 GMT), Jim Lanyon wrote: Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender was in the address book. I would be grateful if this could be reposted. Under Account / Sorting Office, you can find this under the Advanced tab. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wer anderen die Stube fegt, will selber 'rein. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress book filter
Hallo Jim, On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 +GMT (26-11-02, 14:14 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: JL Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender JL was in the address book. Two possibilities, it was the Known filter, a default option in the sorting office or it was a filter using the options 'Adresses must be in the address book' or 'Adresses must not be in the Address book' that can be on the 'Advanced' tab of the filter. (You need to scroll down after selecting the 'Advanced' tab.) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adress book filter
Hi Jim, on Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 +GMT (26.11.02, 14:14 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JL Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender JL was in the address book. The built-in Known filter does this. It can be activated to move mails from AB contacts to a particular folder. -- Cheers Peter Me, indecisive? I'm not so sure about that... Winamp currently playing: Badi Assad - Rhythms Of The World Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adress book filter
Hello Batters, Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender was in the address book. I would be grateful if this could be reposted. I have had a reinstall of Windoze and lost some of my mails. TIA -- Best regards, Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another adress book question
Hey Dwight, My MUA believes 'AbacusBat! (v1.60i)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 10:25:33 PM. DAC Is there a way to change the order of the groups? I can't seem to DAC drag and drop or find a way to sort. I don't know of a way, but if your spam group is 'spam', you can just type s to get to it... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
another adress book question
Per recent thread about spam filtering, I am experimenting with adding spam addresses to a special address book group and then filtering those addresses to the trash. The new address grouip is at the bottom of the address book list, and every time I go to add an address to the book, I have to scroll down the list before I can check the box. Is there a way to change the order of the groups? I can't seem to drag and drop or find a way to sort. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Adress book synchronisation with palm
Hello The Bat! users, is there a way to get the The Bat! address book synchronised with my palm VX? Thanks in advance. Wojtek -- Best regards, Wojtek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Adress book security and lookups questions
Hello tbUDL, Is there any scheme by which the address book is unique to each account, or by which groups can be excluded from accounts. Also, I seem to have trouble getting any of the LDAP searches to work. Like infospace and bigfoot. I remember them working many months ago. The whole LDAP stuff is not familiar to me though. -- Best regards, Brandt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Adress book security and lookups questions
Hi Brandt, On Sun, 13 May 2001 23:42:46 -0700GMT (14/05/2001, 14:42 +0800GMT), Brandt wrote: B Is there any scheme by which the address book is unique to each B account, or by which groups can be excluded from accounts. This is currently in beta testing and should be available in the next release. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Adress book security and lookups questions
Hello Listers, On Mon, 14 May 2001, at 15:00:24 [GMT +0800] (which was 9:00 where I live) Thomas wrote: B Is there any scheme by which the address book is unique to each B account, or by which groups can be excluded from accounts. T This is currently in beta testing and should be available in the next T release. Using separate AB is a great idea, but it would be desirable to share some groups. By user request, of course. -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB Tip of the Moment: You can resize your mail folder columns - place the mouse cursor on the separator between two mailbox column headers, then click and drag when you see the resize cursor. Using The Bat! 1.52f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filters and Adress Book.
Hello, I'd like to ask you one question. How can I automatically forward or redirect a message (using filters) to a _group_ of people without listing all the addresses? For example - I want all messages with a given subject to be forwarded to all my friends from a group in my Address Book. But I don't want to have to remember to change the rule every time I add new friend's address. Is it possible or can it be added to next version of The Bat? Regards, Donatello mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'There are no mistakes - just lessons to be learned' -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filters and Adress Book.
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:58:35 +0200, Donatello wrote: D I'd like to ask you one question. How can I automatically forward or D redirect a message (using filters) to a _group_ of people without D listing all the addresses? For example - I want all messages with a D given subject to be forwarded to all my friends from a group in my D Address Book. But I don't want to have to remember to change the rule D every time I add new friend's address. Is it possible or can it be D added to next version of The Bat? Try using the address book groups handle name. If you add an entry to the group it will be reflected automatically in the filter since the message is sent to each address in the group. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Ambition is the last refuge of the failure. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
adress-book memo-field
Hello Everybody, in my adress-book, a few of my contact (not all, that makes it so strange) have this in the other - memo-field: Binary anyone got any idea what this is how it got there? (i've never used the memo-field untill now, so tb! must have putted it there...) or is it some kind of bug? -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Speelplein Aboe http://surf.to/aboe ** Welcome to the Church of the Holy Cabbage. Lettuce pray Using The Bat! 1.39 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Intel p200-MMX @ 64 MB 21Gb Hd -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: adress-book memo-field
Hi there! On 19 Jan 00, at 16:53, Roel wrote about "adress-book memo-field": in my adress-book, a few of my contact (not all, that makes it so strange) have this in the other - memo-field: Binary anyone got any idea what this is how it got there? It's been there since you imported the addressbook. TB didn't recognize *all* of the information your previous MUA had put there, and all it didn't recognize it has put to the Memo;-) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: History repeats itself. That's one of the things wrong with history. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
