Re: spamfiltering / the Inbox-known-issue again

2002-04-03 Thread Haico

Hi again,

Thanks for the reactions.. I thought I was gonna be skinned
alive ;-)for bringing this up again. But I'm glad I did.. Made me
think more about filtering and keeping the Inbox clean.

And:
I don't post much on mailinglist. And since posting to this one I got
two spam-mails.. Normally I get one spam-mail per 2 weeks..

And I now have set up a folder which I call unknown and made my own
basic address book filter.. The posts got in the folder.. :-)

Saved me from being very disappointed and thanks to the spammers for
testing it. :-) Now I was certain that it wasn't a post from a friend
or a loved one. [stupid that I didn't think about this in the past]

So a basic filter for beginners is in a way a good idea if it made
sense:

But I think you should also have an option to turn it of and on prob.
in the preference-menu.. The folder and filter should be gone after
disabling it.. So users who don't want and need this. could get rid of
it.

And I'm not even a beginner I just don't use TB! to its limits. And I
still am a happy user. :-)

With kind regards,
Haico



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spamfiltering / the Inbox-known-issue again

2002-04-02 Thread Haico

Hi to all,

First of all: Hope that I don't offend anyone for dragging a almost
drowned horse out of the water. But since the discussion I read about
creating a spamfilter I thought about this again. (and someone :)
called this thing a zombie anyway, so.. ;)

I was just thinking.. Why doesn't Ritlabs skip the whole idea of that
Inbox-known folder.. If they got any sense on this matter, they would
see how stupid it is.

1) degrading your inbox to a spam-folder.
2) the thing's name is too long and it just don't sound right.
3) you've got 2 folders with 2 blue arrows.. which looks very stupid.

Why not make the opposite, and create something like a junk-folder.
(this has been mentioned before)You can also make a basic-filter with
more options for dealing with spam..

And give that folder a *RED* arrow and call it unknown.

If Ritlabs would want to have an easy filter for beginners. Than
you've got something that makes sense.

And a folder with a red arrow would look very nice. :-)

Greetings,
Haico



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Re: spamfiltering / the Inbox-known-issue again

2002-04-02 Thread Gene Gough



Well, many, many of us just edited the filter to point it at a folder
of choice and then got rid of the Unknown folder.  Pretty simple.




Tuesday, April 2, 2002, 2:35:50 PM, Haico wrote:

 Hi to all,

 First of all: Hope that I don't offend anyone for dragging a almost
 drowned horse out of the water. But since the discussion I read about
 creating a spamfilter I thought about this again. (and someone :)
 called this thing a zombie anyway, so.. ;)

 I was just thinking.. Why doesn't Ritlabs skip the whole idea of that
 Inbox-known folder.. If they got any sense on this matter, they would
 see how stupid it is.

 1) degrading your inbox to a spam-folder.
 2) the thing's name is too long and it just don't sound right.
 3) you've got 2 folders with 2 blue arrows.. which looks very stupid.

 Why not make the opposite, and create something like a junk-folder.
 (this has been mentioned before)You can also make a basic-filter with
 more options for dealing with spam..

 And give that folder a *RED* arrow and call it unknown.

 If Ritlabs would want to have an easy filter for beginners. Than
 you've got something that makes sense.

 And a folder with a red arrow would look very nice. :-)

 Greetings,
 Haico


 
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Re: spamfiltering / the Inbox-known-issue again

2002-04-02 Thread Haico

On 2-4-2002 at 21:46, Gene Gough wrote:

 Well, many, many of us just edited the filter to point it at a folder
 of choice and then got rid of the Unknown folder.  Pretty simple.

I did so too. And I'm sorry for bringing this up again, and this is
the last I've got to say about it:

I hate stupid idea's. And in a way I could have used this filter
and a folder like that..
Because I don't get a lot of mail.. So most of my not-wanted-mail
would have been seperated from my personal once..

I also like to see my personal mail on the mail-ticker.. And I'm VERY
annoyed if a spam-mail gets on it..

So in a way I liked the idea.. But NOT in this way..

See it as a wishlist-thing!

And you made my point.. If many, many of us deleted it, it's a bad
idea and not wanted!

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Re: spamfiltering / the Inbox-known-issue again

2002-04-02 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Haico,
On Tuesday, April 2, 2002 at 21:35:50 [GMT +0200], you wrote:

H Why not make the opposite, and create something like a junk-folder.
H (this has been mentioned before)You can also make a basic-filter with
H more options for dealing with spam..

You have my vote for this one. And I know that a lot of people actually
used this setup before it was built-in, with one folder for possible
spam. It really appears more intuitive to me.

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Re: spamfiltering / the Inbox-known-issue again

2002-04-02 Thread Gene Gough



Agreed that the implementation was actually backwards from what was
desired and actually didn't do anything that wasn't possible before.

What it did do was make me think more about it and investigate the
address book idea enough to make a spam filter that is very low
maintenance.

The nice thing about BAT and free will is that you can do what you
want with the tools offered up and not have to take away from everybody
something that happens to be irritating to many but not all.




Tuesday, April 2, 2002, 3:09:53 PM, Haico wrote:

 And you made my point.. If many, many of us deleted it, it's a bad
 idea and not wanted!




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Re: spamfiltering / the Inbox-known-issue again

2002-04-02 Thread tracer

Hello Haico,
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:35:50 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, April 3, 2002, 2:35:50 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,




Haico wrote:


 Hi to all,

 First of all: Hope that I don't offend anyone for dragging a almost
 drowned horse out of the water. But since the discussion I read about
 creating a spamfilter I thought about this again. (and someone :)
 called this thing a zombie anyway, so.. ;)

 I was just thinking.. Why doesn't Ritlabs skip the whole idea of that
 Inbox-known folder.. If they got any sense on this matter, they would
 see how stupid it is.

 1) degrading your inbox to a spam-folder.
 2) the thing's name is too long and it just don't sound right.
 3) you've got 2 folders with 2 blue arrows.. which looks very stupid.

I agree... Current thing looks silly to me and likely will stay unused
by me. I for sure am not going to change my filters...


 Why not make the opposite, and create something like a junk-folder.
 (this has been mentioned before)You can also make a basic-filter with
 more options for dealing with spam..

 And give that folder a *RED* arrow and call it unknown.

 If Ritlabs would want to have an easy filter for beginners. Than
 you've got something that makes sense.

And if spam filters could be easily entered, sure I use it. Now have a
box called spam...

 And a folder with a red arrow would look very nice. :-)


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