Re: F50FE5DF]: Scrambled addressbook message templates after upgrade

[Jernej Simončič]

On Monday, June 21, 2021, 09:02:06, Ian A. White wrote:

> After upgrading from version 4.2 to version 9.3.4, ALL my message templates 
> for address groups in the addressbook are horribly scrambled. They appear as 
> HTML source code converted to something like UTF-7 or UTF-8.

> Does anyone know of an online tool that can be used to make easier sense out 
> of this "dialect"?

> So far, the online tools take the scrambled text and simply repeats it with 
> no conversion.

> The problem is I have dozens of these templates that need updating.

If you have a backup from before you did the upgrade, I suggest you reinstall 
the old version and restore the backup, then upgrade through all intermediate 
major versions: 
<https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive-versions.php> (don't forget 
to run TB once after each upgrade, maybe also check a template or two)

-- 
< Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ >

Experience varies directly with equipment ruined.
   -- Morner's Rule of Thumb



Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Useful templates

[Acheton]

Hi MFPA,

Thanks, that's helpful.  For reference your email appears without the text 
being readable (see attached).

Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 8:32:14 AM, you wrote:



Hi


On Tuesday 1 December 2020 at 3:37:38 PM, in
, Acheton wrote:-



I wondered whether there were any templates / macros that the community have 
found particularly useful that others could share?  The most useful sources 
online seems to be silverstones.com  but seem to be broken currently.
 

That's been broken for quite some time but the Wayback Machine has a snapshot 
at 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070705050832/http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php


--
Best regards

MFPA  <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net>

It's better to feed one cat than many mice

Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041  




-- 
Warmest regards,

Acheton
Created using TheBat! 9.3.0.2 on Windows 10
Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Useful templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 1 December 2020 at 3:37:38 PM, in
, Acheton wrote:-



I wondered whether there were any templates / macros that the community have 
found particularly useful that others could share?  The most useful sources 
online seems to be silverstones.com  but seem to be broken currently.
  

That's been broken for quite some time but the Wayback Machine has a snapshot 
at 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070705050832/http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php


-- 
Best regards

MFPA  <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net>

It's better to feed one cat than many mice

Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041  
Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Useful templates

[Acheton]

Hi all,

I wondered whether there were any templates / macros that the community have 
found particularly useful that others could share?  The most useful sources 
online seems to be silverstones.com  but seem to be broken currently.  Anyway 
if you have anything that you find useful I'd love to know!


-- 
Warmest regards,

Acheton

Created using TheBat! 9.3.0.2 on Windows 10
Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Change HTML templates

[Andrew Savchenko]

Hello,

Where can I change things like a font declaration in HTML message and 
CSS styling of reply (by default -  with #ff border) ?

I am aware of Account Properties --> Templates and Viewer templates, but 
using these I can tweak only plain-text representaiton, surely HTML is 
adjustable... Somewhere.


-- 
Cheers,
A



Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Move Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 26 April 2019 at 6:51:03 PM, in
, Richard Newman wrote:-


>   I'm changing my primary email account to a new one.
> Is there a
> way to move Templates from one account to another? (I
> understand
> sharing but I want to get rid of the account where
> the templates were originally created.

I don't know of a way other than copy/paste. 

Or you could change the address on your primary account in TB! to the
new email address.

-- 
Best regards

MFPA  <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net>

During an eruption - move away from the volcano - not towards it

Using The Bat! v8.8.2.5 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 17134  



Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Move Templates

[Richard Newman]

Hello Bat People,

  I'm changing my primary email account to a new one. Is there a way to move 
Templates from one account to another? (I understand sharing but I want to get 
rid of the account where the templates were originally created.
 
  Thanks.

--
Best regards,
 Richard  mailto:the...@newmangroup.com
=
Using The Bat! v8.8.2.6 (BETA) on Windows XP10 Build 17763 

Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Replicate all options & templates PC to PC

[Rich Gregory]

Hello Fellow Bats

I have TB! setup nearly as perfectly as desired on 1 PC.
Is there a way to easily replicate the entire installation onto another PC?
I do NOT need to do a full backup & restore as the messages and accounts 
already exist on both PCs, I just want all options, preferences templates etc 
for all accounts the same on both PCs.

Thx
RG
-- 
Best regards,
Rich Gregory
Random tagline:
When we see men of worth, we should think of equaling them; when we see men of 
a contrary character, we should turn inwards and examine ourselves.
 -  Confucius



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Updating from 2.12 templates

[Maxim Masiutin]

You wrote:
> I'll need help tweaking templates as my old install had some QTs that
> I cannot find a way to move over as well

Did you simply try to install version 7 over version 2.12? Do you mean that
after the installation, some of the templates are lost? Or the template text is
not properly interpreted?

Please compress all The Bat! 2 configuration with an archiver like ZIP.

The Bat! version 7 should take all version 2 configuration automatically. If it
won't, send me this ZIP and we will try to figure out and fix a problem, if any.



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Updating from 2.12 templates

[Rich Gregory]

Hello TBUDL,

Moving to this new TB! from v 2.12.

I'll need help tweaking templates as my old install had some QTs that
I cannot find a way to move over as well, so recreating some of that
functionality will most likely have to be moved to regular templates I
assume.

For example, (not even knowing if the question makes sense w/o seeing
the old QTs) how would this translate:

%if:'%ABToHandle'<>'%ABToFirstName':'%ABToHandle':'%ABToFirstName'":"%ABToFirstName"+)

Thanks folks.
-- 
Random tagline:
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to 
say something.
 - Plato



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Tom]

Sunday, August 13, 2017, 1:25:49 AM, you wrote:

> You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place
> in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any
> account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the
> folder for the relevant account.

Happy to confirm that this still works and it works well.
All  my  account  specific template from the account that had the most
templates  are  now  treated  as common templates, making adding a few
additional ones much easier.


-- 
Tom
using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on XP



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 13 August 2017 at 5:51:14 AM, in
, Tom wrote:-


> Great  -  I  have never used common QTF though it
> seems now that might
> have been easier allround. Is it possible to copy the
> Account.QTB file
> of one specific account into the Common location and
> that way turn the
> account  specific templates into common templates ? 
> Then I would only
> have to manually set up a few other templates
> scattered around various
> accounts to have everything as common templates.  

Yes. At least, it worked when I did it a few years ago.



-- 
Best regards

MFPA  <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net>

Did you hear about the blind carpenter who picked up his hammer and saw?

Using The Bat! v7.4.16.14 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 15063  



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Tom]

> You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place
> in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any
> account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the
> folder for the relevant account.

Great  -  I  have never used common QTF though it seems now that might
have been easier allround. Is it possible to copy the Account.QTB file
of one specific account into the Common location and that way turn the
account  specific templates into common templates ?  Then I would only
have to manually set up a few other templates scattered around various
accounts to have everything as common templates.






-- 
Tom
using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on XP



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 12 August 2017 at 10:44:36 AM, in
, Tom wrote:-


> Hello Everyone,

> I  just  bought  another  license  and  would  like
> to use my existing
> templates  from my main pc on a second pc. What would
> be the procedure
> to export / import the quick templates.
> I  think  I will set up everything else from scratch
> but would like to
> have my templates imported and ready from the start.  


You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place
in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any
account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the
folder for the relevant account.



-- 
Best regards

MFPA  <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net>

Dreams come true on this side of the Rainbow too!

Using The Bat! v7.4.16.14 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 15063  



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Templates

[Tom]

Hello Everyone,

I  just  bought  another  license  and  would  like to use my existing
templates  from my main pc on a second pc. What would be the procedure
to export / import the quick templates.
I  think  I will set up everything else from scratch but would like to
have my templates imported and ready from the start.

-- 
Best regards,
Tom  
using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on Win 7Prof, 64bit



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Templates question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Volker,

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017,  you wrote:

> [In Reply to: »Chris Wilson« · 2017-05-16 · 11:33 h (CET)]

> Moin, Chris et al.!

>>>> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
>>>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
>>>> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
>>>> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
>>>> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
>>>> sig, thanks.

>>>> %REPLYTO=""

>>> Please try without angle brackets:

>>> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"


>> Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still
>> isn't  working  Thomas.  Even if the From: line to the list shows like
>> this

>> Bryan Swadener via Amps 

>> The reply goes to

>> Bryan Swadener 

> Try this:

> %TO=""%-
> %TO="a...@contesting.com"

> First line clears the To field. Second line sets the address of the
> mailing list.

> %REPLYTO sets an alternative reply address of *your* e-mail, e. g.:

> - you send an e-mail with %REPLYTO=""
> - my reply to your mail will be sent to gniddlf...@blub.com

> Cheers!
> VA




That's done the trick! Excellent, many many thanks Volker :)



-- 

Chris Wilson

"Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1"








-- 



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates question

[Volker Ahrendt]

[In Reply to: »Chris Wilson« · 2017-05-16 · 11:33 h (CET)]

Moin, Chris et al.!

>>> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
>>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
>>> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
>>> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
>>> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
>>> sig, thanks.

>>> %REPLYTO=""

>> Please try without angle brackets:

>> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"


> Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still
> isn't  working  Thomas.  Even if the From: line to the list shows like
> this

> Bryan Swadener via Amps 

> The reply goes to

> Bryan Swadener 

Try this:

%TO=""%-
%TO="a...@contesting.com"

First line clears the To field. Second line sets the address of the
mailing list.

%REPLYTO sets an alternative reply address of *your* e-mail, e. g.:

- you send an e-mail with %REPLYTO=""
- my reply to your mail will be sent to gniddlf...@blub.com

Cheers!
VA

- --
Volker Ahrendt | the...@ml.ahrendt.net | The /\^o^/\! [Pro] 7.4.16
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional [Build 7601 – Service Pack 1]
Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana!

»The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This
has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a
bad move.«

Douglas Adams ('52 - '01), »The Restaurant at the End of the Universe«



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Templates question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> On Mon, 15 May 2017 16:25:58 +0100 GMT (15/05/2017, 22:25 +0700 GMT),
> Chris Wilson wrote:

>> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
>> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
>> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
>> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
>> sig, thanks.


>> %REPLYTO=""

> Please try without angle brackets:

> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"




Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still
isn't  working  Thomas.  Even if the From: line to the list shows like
this

Bryan Swadener via Amps 

The reply goes to

Bryan Swadener 


99%  of  mailing  lists I have no trouble with, mainly Yahoo ones, but
this list is a pain as I inadvertently reply via e-mail rather than to
the  whole  list  unless  I  am careful. Thanks, other ideas more than
welcome :)



-- 

Chris Wilson

"Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1"








-- 



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates question

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Chris,

On Mon, 15 May 2017 16:25:58 +0100 GMT (15/05/2017, 22:25 +0700 GMT),
Chris Wilson wrote:

> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
> sig, thanks.


> %REPLYTO=""

Please try without angle brackets:

%REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Travel Map: 
http://matadornetwork.com/travel-map/db757901ff009eef93a2fc09521fb6bf-1482632877

Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16
under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Templates question

[Chris Wilson]

15 May 2017



I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
sig, thanks.


%REPLYTO=""



-- 

  Best Regards, Chris Wilson

  mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv


"Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1"



Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Modifying templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUD Listers,

My wife insists in using HTML in all her email correspondence and I'm
running into a major stumbling block regarding font.  She does not use
any AB templates so all messages should be generated from ACCOUNT
PROPERTIES or FOLDER PROPERTIES templates.  I was not able to change
the font for NEW messages by modifying the templates in either of
those two locations and finally had to go to
OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-VIEWER/EDITOR-PROFILE LAYOUT to achieve the change
in NEW messages.  She is using version 6.0.12 of TB!  Home Edition.

My immediate problem is that although I was able to change the NEW
MESSAGE font from within PROFILE LAYOUT, I cannot change the font in
the REPLY template.  In fact, if I change the font from within
ACCOUNT-PROPERTIES-TEMPLATES-REPLY and click OK the box closes as you
would expect.  However if I immediately re-open the above template, I
see that the changes I made were not saved.  This happens in either
ACCOUNT PROPERTIES or FOLDER PROPERTIES (regardless of which folder is
in focus).

I'm assuming I'm missing something here but I can't see what it is.

-- 
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama


Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
OS: Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1




Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Adrian Godfrey]

Monday, March 16, 2015, 1:22:50 AM, you wrote:

> I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email
> is a message and not a presentation.

Same here. Email is email. HTML is for websites.

If  all  that  "presentation"  is  actually  needed,  that's what file
attachments are for.

Adrian



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 15 March 2015 at 4:54:03 PM, in
, Rick wrote:


> Personally I will be adding leprechauns for St Patty's day and
> change them to Easter bunnies after that :)) 
> Hows THAT for a visual assault? :)))

Fine by me; I would not see them. 

I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email
is a message and not a presentation. If any of my correspondents
choose to add bells and whistles, I do not see them so they cannot
distract my attention from the message.


-- 
Best regards

MFPA  

A closed door is an invitation to knock

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Rick]

> Fortunately, the recipient can view messages in plain text and not be 
> subjected to the visual assault you describe. (-;
Personally I will be adding leprechauns for St Patty's day and change them to 
Easter bunnies after that :)) 
Hows THAT for a visual assault? :)))



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 13 March 2015 at 5:30:42 PM, in
, Rick wrote:


> You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo,
> flowered borders etc :))  

Fortunately, the recipient can view messages in plain text and not be 
subjected to the visual assault you describe. (-;


-- 
Best regards

MFPA  

Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you.

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 13 March 2015 at 12:17:09 AM, in
, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



> Well, as you can see from here:
> http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I have to do this to get
> to where you're describing (probably version
> differences).  But even then after I've selected
> "Signature Text" and made the necessary changes, it
> still has no effect on my sig in an AB reply.

Not sure if related, but your cut mark has gained a space at the
beginning, and therefore no longer works. In your previous two
messages it was fine.

-- 
Best regards

MFPA  

No matter what a man's past may have been, his future is spotless. 

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Rick]

>Did it take 15 minutes to set up this insurance-agent template? 
Hehehe yes but it was worth it



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Leonard S. Berkowitz]

On Friday, March 13, 2015, 1:30:42 PM, Rick Grunwalds 
(tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote:

> You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo,
> flowered borders etc :))  I used to always include the Geico Gecko
> when corresponding with my insurance agent

Thanks.

Did it take 15 minutes to set up this insurance-agent template? 

Leonard
-- 
Leonard S. Berkowitz


Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Rick]

>Could someone kindly explain the practical effect this setting for the AB 
>template -- or any level of template.
You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo, flowered 
borders etc :))  I used to always include the Geico Gecko when corresponding 
with my insurance agent



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Leonard S. Berkowitz]

On Thursday, March 12, 2015, 11:08:15 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote:

> making sure the the AB template is set to
> HTML

Could someone kindly explain the practical effect this setting for the
AB template -- or any level of template.

Thank you.


-- 
Leonard S. Berkowitz


Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

  Hello Rick,
 
On Friday, March 13, 2015 you wrote:
 
>> Hello MFPA,
>>  
>> On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:
>>  
M>>> Hi

M>>> On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
M>>> , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
 reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
 somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
 this would happen?  

M>>> What font do you have set for "Signature Text" at 
M>>> Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?

>> Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I
>> have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version
>> differences).  But even then after I've selected "Signature Text"
>> and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in
>> an AB reply.

>> Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying.

R> The  AB template is overriding it. Make changes to the AB template and
R> you  should  be  good  to go (making sur the the AB template is set to
R> HTML

The salutation and sig in the AB template are both set to Times New Roman 14pt 
and the format is already set to HTML.
 
 -- 
 Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama
 
 Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1
 
 
 
 
 

Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Rick]

> Hello MFPA,
>  
> On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:
>  
M>> Hi

M>> On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
M>> , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>>> As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
>>> reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
>>> somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
>>> this would happen?  

M>> What font do you have set for "Signature Text" at 
M>> Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?

> Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I
> have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version
> differences).  But even then after I've selected "Signature Text"
> and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in
> an AB reply.

> Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying.

The  AB template is overriding it. Make changes to the AB template and
you  should  be  good  to go (making sur the the AB template is set to
HTML
-- 
Rick
"For some years now, students have not been getting to the root of the aim of 
Zen, instead taking the verbal teachings of Buddhas and Zen masters to be the 
ultimate rule. That is like ignoring a hundred thousand pure clear oceans and 
only focusing attention on a single bubble.
 - Ying-an

Version 6.7.38.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build  9200


 



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,
 
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:
 
M> Hi

M> On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
M> , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
>> reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
>> somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
>> this would happen?  

M> What font do you have set for "Signature Text" at 
M> Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?

Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I
have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version
differences).  But even then after I've selected "Signature Text"
and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in
an AB reply.

Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying.
 
 -- 
 Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama
 
 Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1
 
 
 
 
 



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:




> As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
> reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
> somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
> this would happen?  


What font do you have set for "Signature Text" at 
Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?



-- 
Best regards

MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net

When duty calls...hang up immediately

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 17:05:36 -0500 GMT (10-Mar-15, 05:05 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Hello TBUs,

>> Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which
>> template to use for new messages, replies etc.

>> On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but
>> on another I might want a more generalized folder account template.

>> I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years
>> ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES.

TF> AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows (highest to lowest):

TF> AB template
TF> Folder template
TF> Account template

TF> HTH.


Well, I was going to reply that that priority didn't work for me until I 
realized that although I was replying to an existing denizen of my AB, although 
it was the same name, it was written from a new email address.  Once I added 
that new email address to her list of email addresses, the AB reply template 
always comes up now.

I notice however that although the template is composed in Times New Roman 
14pt, the template text below the quoted text (my sig) in the reply reverts to 
Courier New 12pt.  The template is as follows:

Hi Honey,

On %ODATEEN="" you wrote:

%QUOTES
%CURSOR

-- 
Toodles,
Dad

As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 
12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to 
why this would happen?

-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1

Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 10 March 2015 at 2:02:42 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:



> AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows
> (highest to lowest):

> AB template Folder template Account template


That is the priority given in the TB! help file; there are also 
AB Group Templates, which are not mentioned in the help file but I 
think come after AB Templates and before Folder Templates.


-- 
Best regards

MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net

A nod is as good as a wink to a blind bat!

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 17:05:36 -0500 GMT (10-Mar-15, 05:05 +0700 GMT),
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

> Hello TBUs,

> Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which
> template to use for new messages, replies etc.

> On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but
> on another I might want a more generalized folder account template.

> I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years
> ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES.

AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows (highest to lowest):

AB template
Folder template
Account template

HTH.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

Message reply created with The Bat! 6.7.20
under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1



Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUs,

Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which
template to use for new messages, replies etc.

On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but
on another I might want a more generalized folder account template.

I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years
ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES.

-- 
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama

Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1




Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Quick templates and html

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 16 April 2014 at 2:22:19 AM, in
, Robin Anson wrote:



> How can that be? I don't know, but I have finally given
> up on TB! for business use and am moving to Outlook
> now.  

Wow, that's drastic.

At work I am forced to use Outlook, but do not use HTML except on the
very odd occasion that I need to add into the email _body_ something
that cannot easily be shown in plaintext. The vast majority of the
time, such content sits more happily in my mind as an attachment. I
send and receive dozens of emails per day with (mainly) Word, Excel,
and PDF attachments. I only send an HTML email a small handful of
times per year, and typically only receive one or two per month that
cannot be usefully viewed in plaintext

Many of my colleagues use HTML for all emails, pointlessly as the only
thing they could not have done in plaintext is a fancy or coloured
font in their signature block. (-;


-- 
Best regards

MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net

I'll tell you what's the matter!  This parrot is dead!

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 



Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Quick templates and html

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Robin,

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:22:19 +1000GMT Robin Anson wrote:

RA> How can that be? I don't know, but I have finally given up on TB! for
RA> business use and am moving to Outlook now.

What a pity! I use HTML templates for my business accounts and they are
working without problems.

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! Version 6.3.4 (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0. 
[The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)]



Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Quick templates and html

[Robin Anson]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 at 00:52:24 +0400,Assad wrote:
> Hello Robin,
>
> On 08 April 2014, Robin Anson wrote and made these points on the
> subject of "Quick templates and html":
>
RA>> I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick
RA>> templates (e.g. ", ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an
RA>> html message template.
>
>  One way you can circumvent this problem is to have the
> template in a separate Quick Template then use %Qinclude to call for the 
> template.

Actually, that is what I do.

I have discovered that if I execute the QT manually, i.e. I type it's
handle and then press CTRL+SPACE, it works fine. If I use %QInclude to
call it from the template, it fails.

How can that be? I don't know, but I have finally given up on TB! for
business use and am moving to Outlook now.

-- 
Robin

Using The Bat! v6.3.2
  Windows 6.2 Build 9200 
  Popfile v1.1.3



Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re:Quick templates and html

[Assad Kety]

Hello Robin,
   
On 08 April 2014, Robin Anson wrote and made these points on the
subject of "Quick templates and html":

RA> I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick
RA> templates (e.g. ", ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an
RA> html message template.

 One way you can circumvent this problem is to have the template in a 
separate Quick Template then use %Qinclude to call for the template.

-- 
Best regards,
 Assad


Using The Bat! 6.3.2 
under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1



Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Quick templates and html

[Robin Anson]

Batfolk, 

Has anyone any experience with using html templates and quick
templates together?

I have to use html for business purposes (company standard) and I have
an extensive set of quick templates that I use for formatting emails
etc. However the two do not seem to mix well.

When I use my existing templates with an html message template, I end
up with a host of delimiters and blank lines in the message that
simply don't appear in a plain text message.

I have noted, for instance, that if I include a line in the html
message template containing only the following characters
%-
it produces a blank line in message. In a plain text message it
produces no output. Unfortunately I use lots of such lines in my quick
templates to help make it readable

I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick
templates (e.g. ", ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an
html message template.

Robin Anson
-- 
Robin

Using The Bat! v6.3.2
  Windows 6.2 Build 9200 
  Popfile v1.1.3  



Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Recover Folder Templates

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Chris,

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:12:05 + GMT (08-Nov-13, 22:12 +0700 GMT),
Chris Wilson wrote:

>> I believe the templates are contained in the file account.qtn or
>> account.qtb - but these files are binary.

> Would Ritlabs divulge what the various root files are please, for
> curiosities' sake?

I think this would be a good idea.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8
under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1



Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Recover Folder Templates

[Chris Wilson]

> Hello Richard,

> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:54:18 -0500 GMT (05-Nov-13, 05:54 +0700 GMT),
> Richard Newman wrote:

>> I  reinstalled TB and changed accounts. How can I recover New Message,
>> Reply  and  Forward  templates for particular directories? I guess the
>> other  way to ask that is what files contain the New Message, Repy and
>> Forward templates for particular directories (rather than accounts)?

> I believe the templates are contained in the file account.qtn or
> account.qtb - but these files are binary.



08 November 2013


Would Ritlabs divulge what the various root files are please, for
curiosities' sake?

-- 

Chris Wilson

"Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3"








-- 



Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Recover Folder Templates

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:54:18 -0500 GMT (05-Nov-13, 05:54 +0700 GMT),
Richard Newman wrote:

> I  reinstalled TB and changed accounts. How can I recover New Message,
> Reply  and  Forward  templates for particular directories? I guess the
> other  way to ask that is what files contain the New Message, Repy and
> Forward templates for particular directories (rather than accounts)?

I believe the templates are contained in the file account.qtn or
account.qtb - but these files are binary.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8
under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1



Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Recover Folder Templates

[Richard Newman]

Hello Bat People,

I  reinstalled TB and changed accounts. How can I recover New Message,
Reply  and  Forward  templates for particular directories? I guess the
other  way to ask that is what files contain the New Message, Repy and
Forward templates for particular directories (rather than accounts)?

Thanks.
-- 
Best regards,
 Richard  mailto:the...@newmangroup.com
=
Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP6 Build 7601 Service Pack 1



Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: moving QT's from account to common templates

[monsell]

> observe there is no function to copy/paste or move

I'm surprised there is still no function to copy/paste or drag/drop. I 
believe this feature was requested in 2008, not long after the 
location for common QTs was introduced. Prior to that, the tidiest you 
could get was to store them all in one account and mark them all as 
"shared."

In a thread on this list from Dec 2008/Jan 2009, MAU suggested:-

+++

many thanks mate, much appreciated
will have a go at this..

thanks again

-- 
vernon



Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: moving QT's from account to common templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 2 October 2013 at 7:47:39 AM, in
, mons...@monsell.lk wrote:


> hello friends,

> is there a possibility to move quick templates from
> account templates to common templates and vice versa?

> observe there is no function to copy/paste or move

I'm surprised there is still no function to copy/paste or drag/drop. I 
believe this feature was requested in 2008, not long after the 
location for common QTs was introduced. Prior to that, the tidiest you 
could get was to store them all in one account and mark them all as 
"shared."

In a thread on this list from Dec 2008/Jan 2009, MAU suggested:-

 
> Make a copy of your ACCOUNT.QTB file in Mail directory (this is the
> Common QTs) somewhere for safety. Same for the QTB file in the account
> you mention. Then *move* account's QTB to your Mail directory and start
> TB and see if it worked. If not, restore QTB files where they were.

Ian A. White reported success with that method. I think he probably 
previously had all his QTs under one account. 

I had most of my QTs under the one account, so copied that ACCOUNT.QTB
to the Mail directory. I had a small number in other accounts, and
after spending a few minutes experimenting with copying from one QTB
file to another decided my time was better spent copying the content
of my few QTs remaining in other accounts into newly-created common
QTs. I found when I had them all as common QTs and deleted my old
ACCOUNT.QTB files in the individual accounts, they came back when
re-starting The Bat! and the individual account QTs reappeared.
Leaving empty text files called ACCOUNT.QTB in their place stopped
this,. The explanation Marek Mikus was that QTs had previously been
stored in files called ACCOUNT.QTN. Experimentation showed that
presence of ACCOUNT.QTN in the absence of ACCOUNT.QTB triggered The
Bat! to convert the QTs to the new file format and generate a new
ACCOUNT.QTB.



-- 
Best regards

MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com

Beware the deadly donkey falling slowly from the sky

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 



Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

moving QT's from account to common templates

[monsell]

hello friends,

is there a possibility to move quick templates from account templates
to common templates and vice versa?

observe there is no function to copy/paste or move

look forward to hear

thank you

-- 
vernon



Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: sending messages to a group; templates

[Avram Sacks]

Hi Marck,

Sunday, July 8, 2012, 6:16:59 PM, you wrote:

A>> I tried to place   "%ABtoHANDLE" <%TOADDR>  in the "to" field, but that
A>> yielded an error message:

MP> Yes - these are *template* macros. The clue here is the word
MP> "template", meaning they can only be correctly interpreted when used
MP> in a template. I don't mean to patronize - just trying to help.

First, thank you very much.  After experimenting with a test group of
test contacts, I finally figured out how to set this up.  Once you
explained that I could not use the template macro in a regular message
and only within a template, it was easier for me to get this to work.
This may be elementary, but if one doesn't regularly use macros and
templates

Now, I have another related problem: You wrote that I need to create
the entire message as a "Mass Mailing Template." Yet, I want the
message to have as its body the salutation, followed by an image that
is an invitation that I created in MS Publisher and saved as a jpeg
file. In a regular message, I can just copy and paste, so long as I
have the regular message set to HTML and not plain text. How do I
insert my jpeg invitation into the body of the mass mailing, so that
when the message is opened by the recipient, the recipient sees the
image of the invitation?

Secondly, how do I request reading and/or delivery confirmation with
a mass mailing?

-- 
Best regards,
Avi

Avram Sacks
Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP Pro sp3



Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: sending messages to a group; templates

[Marck Pearlstone]

Dear Achdut18,

@8-Jul-2012, 17:49 -0500 (08-Jul 23:49 here) Achdut18 [A] in
mid:428094191.20120708174...@gmail.com said to Marck:

... 
MP>> %TO='"%ABtoHANDLE" <%TOADDR>'
MP>> to set the addressing of the email as you wish.

A> I am still confused.  This may be elementary, but I need some step by
A> step "hand-holding."

A> If I create a mail message that I want to go to all 100 contacts in a
A> group, what do I do to easily accomplish that?

You create your entire message as a "Mass Mailing Template". These are
Quick templates, created in the Quick Template editor that have the
"Mass Mailing Template" checkbox ticked. The template will include the
macros for attribution and manipulation of the To field as well as the
entire body of the message you wish to send. You can get very clever
by using other fields of the address book to conditionally add or
remove whole paragraphs, but that means getting fairly sophisticated.

A> The only way I know to get a mail message to automatically go to
A> everyone in the group is to open up the address book, highlight the
A> group and then click on "new message." The group handle will appear
A> in the "to" field followed by ""

There is another way. In the Address book, highlight the group then,
from the Address book menu choose "File -> New -> Mass Mailing using
Template". This will give you all the options you need to generate
individual emails to every member of the chosen group (or the
currently selected subset of specific entries) using the template you
wrote your mass mailing message template in.

A> I tried to place   "%ABtoHANDLE" <%TOADDR>  in the "to" field, but that
A> yielded an error message:

Yes - these are *template* macros. The clue here is the word
"template", meaning they can only be correctly interpreted when used
in a template. I don't mean to patronize - just trying to help.

... 

A> What am I doing wrong?

Just work through the pointers above and you should be able to get
somewhere with it now.

-- 
Cheers --  Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user
TB! v5.1.6.7 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
'

pgpDIdJZK6Guh.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: sending messages to a group; templates

[Achdut18]

Hello Marck,

Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:50:17 PM, you wrote:


A>> (1) Is there a way to send an e-mail to a group such that ONLY the
A>> recipient's e-mail address appears in the "to" field?

MP> This is the exact purpose for which the Mass Mailing feature was
MP> designed. It will mean generating individual emails for each
MP> recipient, but that seems to be the requirement anyway.

MP> You can use
MP> %TO='"%ABtoHANDLE" <%TOADDR>'
MP> to set the addressing of the email as you wish.

I am still confused.  This may be elementary, but I need some step by
step "hand-holding."

If I create a mail message that I want to go to all 100 contacts in a
group, what do I do to easily accomplish that? The only way I know to
get a mail message to automatically go to everyone in the group is to
open up the address book, highlight the group and then click on "new
message." The group handle will appear in the "to" field followed by
""

If I send the e-mail that way, every address will appear in the "to"
field in the recipient's e-mail.  If I cut and paste that information
into the BCC field, then the recipient won't see anything in the "to"
field.

I tried to place   "%ABtoHANDLE" <%TOADDR>  in the "to" field, but that
yielded an error message:

"Message has not been sent. Server reply - 5.1.2 or other punctuation
after the recipient's email address. qo3sm17010535igc.8"

MP> ... 

A>> (3) Finally, I want to personalize each e-mail by placing into the
A>> e-mail's salutation whatever I have placed in a contact's
A>> Nickname."Dear John, Jane, and Charlie" What am I doing wrong?

MP> This specific field is accessed as %ABtoHANDLE.

This didn't work either.  I wrote in the body of the e-mail (without
the quotation marks) the following:

"Dear %ABtoHANDLE,"

However, my test e-mails were received with the above text, as if
"%ABto HANDLE" was a name like any other rather than a signal to
insert the text of what actually was in the handle for each contact,
such as "John, Jane and Charlie"

What am I doing wrong?

-- 
Avi

Avram Sacks
Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on WinXP Pro sp3 and Win7 Home



Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: sending messages to a group; templates

[Marck Pearlstone]

Dear Achdut18,

@8-Jul-2012, 16:35 -0500 (08-Jul 22:35 here) Achdut18 [A] in
mid:927461077.20120708163...@gmail.com said:

... 
A> (1) Is there a way to send an e-mail to a group such that ONLY the
A> recipient's e-mail address appears in the "to" field?

This is the exact purpose for which the Mass Mailing feature was
designed. It will mean generating individual emails for each
recipient, but that seems to be the requirement anyway.

You can use
%TO='"%ABtoHANDLE" <%TOADDR>'
to set the addressing of the email as you wish.

... 

A> Dear %ABtoNICKNAME

... 
A> "Dear John, Jane, and Charlie" What am I doing wrong?

This specific field is accessed as %ABtoHANDLE.

-- 
Cheers --  Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user
TB! v5.1.6.7 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
'

pgpOxkom56nSC.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

sending messages to a group; templates

[Achdut18]

Hi, everyone,

I want to send an invitation to a group. I created a group of contacts
("Invitation to Friends and Relatives"). However, I want each
recipient to see only their own name and e-mail address in the "to"
field. If I put the group name in the "to" field, such as "Invitation
to Friends and Relatives " the every display name and e-mail
address appears in the "to" field of a recipient's e-mail. On the
other hand, if I place either individual e-mail addresses OR the group
name in the BCC field, NO address appears in the header. That is, the
"to" field is blank.

(1) Is there a way to send an e-mail to a group such that ONLY the
recipient's e-mail address appears in the "to" field?

Related to this question is how the recipient's address actually
appears.  Let's say John Doe is married to Jane and has an e-mail
address, john...@gmail.com.  When I send an invitation to John and
Jane, I just don't want the "to" field to show the e-mail address, or
even John's first name. Rather, I would want the "to" field to show
something like:

John and Jane Doe 

 I thought I could set up each contact's nickname to reflect how I
would want the names to appear in the "to" field, but it appears that
only the display name is grabbed for this purpose.  Can I change it
so that the nickname is grabbed?  Right now, in order to get the
names to appear the way I want them is to place in the first name
field for the contact, the following: "John and Jane"   Is this correct, is this
what I have to do in order to yield an address that appears:

John and Jane Doe 

(3) Finally, I want to personalize each e-mail by placing into the the
e-mail's salutation whatever I have placed in a contact's Nickname.
Sometimes it will be "Dear John and Jane" but other times the
salutation will be "Dear, John, Jane, and Charlie" where "Charlie" is
John and Jane's minor child, who lives with them. So, I
created a quick template with the following content (following
the guidelines of the Mass Mailing Tutorial),

Dear %ABtoNICKNAME

However, when I send an e-mail to a test group using this salutation,
only "Dear" appears in the recipient's e-mail salutation and not,
"Dear John, Jane, and Charlie"  What am I
doing wrong?



//Avi



Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates and IMAP

[Dwight Corrin]

On Sunday, August 22, 2010, 7:37:26 PM, TheLimit wrote:
 
> And you use both?
 
actually  no.  I rarely use pop at all any more. Have my IMAP account 
collect all my POP mail. 
  
-- 
 Dwight A. Corrin 
 316.303.9385  phone ahead to fax 
 dcorrin at fastmail.fm 
 photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com 
 photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com 
   http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 
 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2)



Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates and IMAP

[TheLimit]

On 8/22/2010 you wrote:

>  
> can't  imagine  how anything is different in IMAP as far as templates
> go. Never noticed it here. 

And you use both?

These POP accounts seem fine. As I get a completely
bizarre time lag sometimes doing things in IMAP, I left
this particular problem alone for a couple of days, in
case it just needed some 'catch up' time.

That didn't help. I'm really totally stumped.

-- 
Lynn
:Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag:

theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo
I'd rather be WARP'ed* * *  Team OS/2

Windows 6, Build 7600
4.2.36.4



Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates and IMAP

[Dwight Corrin]

On Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:30:23 AM, MFPA wrote:
 
> For IMAP accounts behaving differently, dunno as I only use POP.
 
can't  imagine  how anything is different in IMAP as far as templates 
go. Never noticed it here. 
  
-- 
 Dwight A. Corrin 
 316.303.9385  phone ahead to fax 
 dcorrin at fastmail.fm 
 photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com 
 photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com 
   http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 
 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2)



Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Templates and IMAP

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 20 August 2010 at 11:19:05 PM, in
, TheLimit wrote:


> I went to templates in the AB a while back, and I liked
> it,  so that's what I'm doing.

I have a handful of AB templates but mainly use Account level 
templates (and steer clear of folder templates).



>  The first one I did is
> fine; the rest refuse to play, period. I get a totally
> blank mail, and the F4 key doesn't work on replies. I
> can't figure it out. They used to work fine.

What's different between the first one that works and all the others 
that fail, in settings and in the templates themselves?

Is it something simple, like the tick being removed from "use a 
specific template for replies [or new messages]" in the AB entry?
Or having more than one AB entry for the same contact but only setting 
up the template in one of them? Or the SHIFT key being down when 
pressing F4? 



> This is an IMAP account. The POP account seems OK,
> though I haven't got very far with it. Will that go
> away too .. ?

You mean if you create messages from your POP account the AB templates 
work but if you create messages to the same contacts from your IMAP 
account the templates don't work? That sounds weird.



> What's going on? How do I fix it?

For a totally blank email to be created it looks like it 
is defaulting to a totally empty template set up *somewhere*... Check 
all address book entries for the address you are trying to set up 
templates for.

For IMAP accounts behaving differently, dunno as I only use POP.

-- 
Best regards

MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com

The truth is rarely pure and never simple

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600  




Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Templates and IMAP

[TheLimit]

Hi Batters -

OK, I'm baffled again ... I've been building my templates in
this new install (yeah, it's taking a while), and it's not
going well.

I went to templates in the AB a while back, and I liked
it,  so that's what I'm doing. The first one I did is
fine; the rest refuse to play, period. I get a totally
blank mail, and the F4 key doesn't work on replies. I
can't figure it out. They used to work fine.

This is an IMAP account. The POP account seems OK, though
I haven't got very far with it. Will that go away too .. ?

What's going on? How do I fix it?

tia ..

-- 
Lynn
:Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag:

theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo
I'd rather be WARP'ed* * *  Team OS/2

Windows 6, Build 7600
4.2.36.4



Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environment variables and templates

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 20 October 2009 at 9:20:13 PM, in
, Roelof Otten wrote:


> Apart from the %MailDir macro TB also supports the
> %AccountDir and the %ProgramDir  macros


And %ACCOUNTATTACHDIR


-- 
Best regards
 
MFPA

Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600  



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environement variables and templates

[Simon]

'Ello Roelof,

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:20:13 +0200 (your time) you said:

> [...]TB can't handle environment variables by itself, but the XMP plug-in
> can help you with that.

Now tried and tested and in use, and works great! Thanks very much for the
information.

-- 
Simon (Privateofcourse)
#23855. Hews On Gid Wore? ¶

Auxiliary Information:
 • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1
 • Extended Macro Plugin 1.2.0.0
 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) 



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environement variables and templates

[Simon]

'Ello Roelof,

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:20:13 +0200 (your time) you said:

> [...] XMP has the %XMP_Envir that can read evironment variables. XMP can
> be downloaded from http://www.gaijin.at/tbpxmp.php The help file is
> German, but should be clear even if you don't 'do' German.

[...]

Excellent! Thanks, Roelof. That, in fact, will be very handy indeed.

-- 
Simon (Privateofcourse)
#16158. Res Hoe Dong Iww? ¶

Auxiliary Information:
 • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1
 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) 



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environement variables and templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Simon,

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:30:36 +0100GMT (20-10-2009, 18:30 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

P>  How do I - or is it possible to - use environment variables in message
P>  templates?

Marek   answered   you   about  the  %MailDir macro and AFAIK TB can't
handle  environment  variables by itself, but the XMP plug-in can help
you  with  that.  XMP  has  the  %XMP_Envir  that  can read evironment
variables.
XMP  can  be  downloaded from http://www.gaijin.at/tbpxmp.php The help
file is German, but should be clear even if you don't 'do' German.

Apart from the %MailDir macro TB also supports the %AccountDir and the
%ProgramDir  macros,  apart  from  the  time and Windows version there
aren't  any system related things that I need in my templates, so that
might be enough for you too.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Move away from the tagline.  You have ten seconds to comply.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.2.10.12
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgp8rwpAlmX3H.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environement variables and templates

[Simon]

'Ello Marek,

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:18:23 +0200 (your time) you said:


> %EMAIL% is a Windows variable, not TB's internal variable, for MAIL
> directory TB uses "%MAILDIR", so use

> %INCLUDE="%MAILDIR\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt"

Excellent. That's a lot less bother...even better then! That will save me
having to update the paths for every template when I move my mail folder
about ;-)

-- 
Simon (Privateofcourse)
#33307. O'er Hod New Wigs? ¶

Auxiliary Information:
 • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1
 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) 



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environement variables and templates

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, October 20, 2009, Simon wrote:

>> [...] You might try %% instead. This should prevent TB! from seeing the
>> following as a macro. If it recognizes the EV, I don't know.

> Tried that out and it doesn't work. Thanks for the idea though.

> If it is possible at all it would be extremely useful.

%EMAIL% is a Windows variable, not TB's internal variable, for MAIL
directory TB uses "%MAILDIR", so use

%INCLUDE="%MAILDIR\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt"

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.10.16 (ALPHA4)
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.5
Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environement variables and templates

[Simon]

'Ello Peter,

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:31:08 +0200 (your time) you said:

S>>  It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way.

> [...] You might try %% instead. This should prevent TB! from seeing the
> following as a macro. If it recognizes the EV, I don't know.

Tried that out and it doesn't work. Thanks for the idea though.

If it is possible at all it would be extremely useful.

-- 
Simon (Privateofcourse)
# 9206. Wei Hnd Go Sower? ¶

Auxiliary Information:
 • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1
 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) 



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Environement variables and templates

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Simon,

on  Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:30:36 +0100GMT (20.10.2009, 18:30 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

S>  ... environment variables in message templates? ...

S>  %INCLUDE="%EMAIL%\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt"

S>  It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way.

I don't know if there is a way to use environment variables in
templates, but I see why your try doesn't work. In TB!'s templates the
percent sign indicates a following macro. You might try %% instead.
This should prevent TB! from seeing the following as a macro. If it
recognizes the EV, I don't know.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

Reality is nothing but a collective hunch.



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Environement variables and templates

[Simon]

'Ello TBUDL,

 How do I - or is it possible to - use environment variables in message
 templates?

 In Windows, EMAIL is set to TB!'s message base. Normally then you'd use
 %EMAIL% in scripts and what have you. Can I use this in TB!'s templates?

 E.g.

 instead of:

 
%INCLUDE="X:\Messages\Email\messages\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt"

 this:

 %INCLUDE="%EMAIL%\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt"

 It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way.


-- 
Simon (Privateofcourse)
#20435. Dew Show In Gore? ¶

Auxiliary Information:
 • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1
 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) 



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Address Book Group templates

[MFPA]

Hi

On Sunday 26 July 2009 at 8:45:29 AM, in
, Carren Stuart wrote:



> I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group
> templates work as opposed to folder templates. Not
> quite sure what the advantage of one is over the other
> yet.

A Folder template will be used if that folder has focus when the new 
message is created, unless you also have an AB template for the 
(first?) recipient on the To: line (or an AB group template for a 
group that recipient is assigned to.) Unless you are careful about 
checking which folder is active when you create a new message this can 
result in an unintended template being used. Obviously, you can just 
look at the message you are creating to verify the right details are 
there.


> I note that the "To" field automaticaly fills with
> TBUDL  for a new message. Sending this message to
> see if it works.

It does (-;



-- 
Best regards,
 
MFPA

Always be on the lookout for conspicuousness

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600  



Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Address Book Group templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Carren,

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:45:29 +1200GMT (26-7-2009, 9:45 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CS> I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates
CS> work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the
CS> advantage of one is over the other yet.

Address  book  templates  are  used  when you set the recipient before
entering text in the body.
Individual  address  book  templates take precedence over address book
group templates and both take precedence over folder templates.

Suppose  you  filter tbudl messages to a dedicated folder. If you want
to use a special template for replies to the list then you can do that
via a folder reply template or via an address book reply template.
Suppose  you  want to send a private reply to one of the list messages
(Ctrl-F4).  When  you're  using  folder  templates  your message will
be  formatted like your list messages, with address book templates that
won't be so.

CS> I note that the "To" field automaticaly fills with TBUDL 
CS> for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works.

That's  odd. The mentioning of the  tag means your addressing an
address  book  group  and  if  that's  done  automatically then you're
probably  using  a  self  addressing  folder template. Those are a bit
risky.


-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

WinErr 004: Erroneous error - nothing is wrong
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.2.9.4
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgpNOSnqGiH7r.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Address Book Group templates

[Carren Stuart]

Hello

I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates work as 
opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the advantage of one is over 
the other yet.

I note that the "To" field automaticaly fills with TBUDL  for a new 
message. Sending this message to see if it works.


-- 

Carren


Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 3



Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Using folder properties in filters and templates

[Alexander E. Gutman]

Hello, friends.

I have got lots of folders and reorganize them often.

Whenever a new penpal (P) occurs, I usually create
a folder (PF) for storing the related communication.
Since I want the incoming/outgoing messages be stored
in PF automatically, I usually create the corresponding
pair of filters which move incoming/outgoing messages
to PF according to Sender/Recipient.

What I am dreaming of is automating the filtering
and making it as easy as entering P's address (or two)
somewhere in PF's properties (e.g., in PF's memo).

If folder memos were searchable via macros, I could
create a single pair of filters with condition like
"Some folder's memo contains '%Sender/%Recipient'"
and action like "Move to the folder
%FirstFolderWhoseMemoContains='%Sender/%Recipient'"
or something similar.

I do understand that the above is realizable via AB
with some clever macros/regexps but I cannot use fixed
folder paths in AB, since my folders are permanently
reorganized.

In addition, I would like to use PF's properties
(rather than AB) for specifying additional info on P
(such as greetings, etc.) for using in message templates,
but I am not aware of macros which can help me.
Currently I enter P's info in PF's templates,
but this leads to unpleasant duplicating the info
needed for "New Message" and "Reply" templates.
Again, I could store the corresponding info in PF's memo,
but it is useless without a %FolderMemo macro.

Any ideas?

-- 
Alexander Gutman

Using The Bat! v4.2.6
on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4



Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Common folder templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Carren,

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:49:27 +1200GMT (4-7-2009, 22:49 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CS> Which is the recommended/best way to set these up for things like
CS> mailing lists? Is it better to use a folder template or an address
CS> book template or does it make no difference as long as you only use one?

My   personal   preference   is   address book templates, that's how I
configured  my  mailing  lists. I placed my mailing lists in AB groups
and  configured AB group templates, that way it's easy to use the same
template for 'related' lists.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

this copy of me has been unregistered for more than 42 years.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.2.6
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgp01JEWjwqzt.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Common folder templates

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, July 4, 2009, Carren Stuart wrote:

> P.S How can I make my sig darker/more readable? I can't find anywhere
> within template set ups to change the font size/colour.

use Options | Preferences | Viewer{Editor | Profile layout

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.6
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.0.6
Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 




Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Common folder templates

[Carren Stuart]

 Hello Roelof,

Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:13:17 AM, you wrote:

Roelof> Hallo Carren,

Roelof> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:13:53 +1200GMT (4-7-2009, 4:13 +0200, where I
Roelof> live), you wrote:

CS>> However it doesn't work. If I reply to a list email (filtered to
CS>> that common folder) - I get a blank message with no quoted message, 
greeting or anything.

Roelof> You  wouldn't be using an address book template for that mailing list,
Roelof> would you?


Bingo!  Somewhere along the way whilst trying to get this to work I had tried 
doing it via an address book template - which I couldn't get to work - and then 
promptly forgot about it. Once I deleted the address book template, the common 
folder one worked.

Which is the recommended/best way to set these up for things like mailing 
lists? Is it better to use a folder template or an address book template or 
does it make no difference as long as you only use one?

P.S How can I make my sig darker/more readable? I can't find anywhere within 
template set ups to change the font size/colour.

-- 
Best regards,
 Carrenmailto:kiwionab...@xnet.co.nz



Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Common folder templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Carren,

On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:13:53 +1200GMT (4-7-2009, 4:13 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CS> However it doesn't work. If I reply to a list email (filtered to
CS> that common folder) - I get a blank message with no quoted message, 
greeting or anything.

You  wouldn't be using an address book template for that mailing list,
would you?

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Sometimes, when it's quiet, you can hear the brain cells die. --- SLR
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.2.6
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgpF0BfYzJfmM.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Common folder templates

[Carren Stuart]

Hi

Since spending several years away from TB! I seem to have forgotten everything 
I ever knew about creating templates. 

I have a common folder set up for a mailing list and have the following reply 
template set up:


 Hello %OFromFName,

%ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote:

%Quotes
%Cursor

-- 
Best regards,
 %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr


However it doesn't work. If I reply to a list email (filtered to that common 
folder) - I get a blank message with no quoted message, greeting or anything. 

What am I doing wrong? 


-- 
Best regards,
 %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr




Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: How to modify the inbox template and subfolders templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Stephane,

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:09:26 +0200GMT (1-7-2009, 22:09 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

SB> I would like to modify the inbox reply template, but it does not
SB> work : when i get the properties of this folder i do not have any
SB> option for templates...

That's because the Inbox uses the default account templates.

SB> But sometimes, i receive messages directly in my inbox (like a
SB> private reply,... messages addressed directly to me and not via a
SB> list).  I would prefer for those messages to reply with a
SB> different email address, and thus i would like to modify the default 
template...

Two options:
1 Sort all messages not via a list to an alternate folder and edit the
  folder template for that folder.
2 Add  all  mailing  list addresses to one address book group and use
  address  book  group  templates  for  the  mailing lists and use the
  account templates for other messages.

SB> On the same subject : is it possible to inherit a template from a parent 
folder ?

No

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

As I feared, you have no sense of humor.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.2.6
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgpuLtSUNOP0j.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

How to modify the inbox template and subfolders templates

[Stephane Bouvard]

Hi,

I would like to modify the inbox reply template, but it does not work : when i 
get the properties of this folder i do not have any option for templates...  
for other folders i have no problem...

I explain the case in detail : i have an account for mailing lists, i receive 
and send messages with the address m...@frn.be , for every mailing list i've 
subscribed i have a sorting rule and a specific folder.

But sometimes, i receive messages directly in my inbox (like a private 
reply,... messages addressed directly to me and not via a list).  I would 
prefer for those messages to reply with a different email address, and thus i 
would like to modify the default template...

I know that i could modify the default template then modify individualy every 
ML folder template, but not very practical with 30+ ML...

On the same subject : is it possible to inherit a template from a parent folder 
?

Example : i have a folder Ritlabs containing two subfolders tbudl and tbbeta, 
is it possible to modify the folder template at the "Ritlabs" level and apply 
automaticaly this modification to the two children folders ?

-- 
Regards,
 Stephane   




Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Exporting templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Tom,

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:22:31 +1000GMT (17-6-2009, 0:22 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

T> I am hoping that there is some inbuilt export function just
T> for templates that has eluded me so far.

No.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Uh, yeah...I MEANT to do that!
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.2.6
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgpiIOSUlN0tO.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Exporting templates

[Tom]

Hello Everyone,

I love using my templates and do miss them when I work on a different pc
without TB. Is there any way to export them in csv/txt or some other
format that a text reader can understand.
I am not concerned that the macro function will not be available but
even using a cut/paste procedure from a usb stick would be preferable
to creating all those templates from scratch or from memory.
I could go through the most useful ones manually and copy them to a
file but I am hoping that there is some inbuilt export function just
for templates that has eluded me so far.

-- 
Best regards,
Tom  
using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP  



Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TO-macro and quick templates

[Rick]

> Hello MFPA,

> Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:48:22 PM, MFPA wrote:

>>> Here's my template:

>>> =
>>> %CURSOR

>>> tags: some tags i want them "all to share" "Canon EOS
>>> 1000d" %TO="foo12...@photos.flickr.com"
>>> =

>> Would putting the "%to=" line before the "%cursor" line make any
>> difference?

> Thanks for the suggestion.

> Yes it does make a difference. It creates a blank line because of the
> line break after the '"...flickr.com"\n' <-- there's a \n

> I understand that you have to put these value assignments at the
> bottom because of the line breaks. Or so I think.

You can end them with %- to stop the extra lines i.e.
%cursor="subject"%-

-- 
Rick
Never deprive someone of hope; it might be all they have. - H. Jackson Brown Jr.

v4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 3

 



Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TO-macro and quick templates

[simbabque]

Hello MFPA,

Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:48:22 PM, MFPA wrote:

>> Here's my template:

>> =
>> %CURSOR

>> tags: some tags i want them "all to share" "Canon EOS
>> 1000d" %TO="foo12...@photos.flickr.com"
>> =

> Would putting the "%to=" line before the "%cursor" line make any
> difference?

Thanks for the suggestion.

Yes it does make a difference. It creates a blank line because of the
line break after the '"...flickr.com"\n' <-- there's a \n

I understand that you have to put these value assignments at the
bottom because of the line breaks. Or so I think.

Regards,

Julien

-- 
Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2



Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TO-macro and quick templates

[simbabque]

Hello Rick,

Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:59:56 PM, Rick wrote:

>> My very simple template is working fine, but I find it very annoying
>> that TB! sets up the new message window with the focus on the To: text
>> box. I'd like it to be in the subject line or the text (where the
>> %CURSOR is).

>> I don't want that extra
>> tab/click. Is there a way to change this?

> Try %CURSOR="Body"

That works like a charm! "Subject" instead of "Body" is also fine.
Thanks a lot!

You wouldn't happen to know how to turn the CC: and BCC: input lines
off in the template but preserve them in other new messages, would you?

Regards,
simbabque

-- 
Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2



Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TO-macro and quick templates

[MFPA]

Hi

On Monday 1 June 2009 at 9:51:23 PM, in
, simbabque wrote:


> ... but I find it very annoying that TB! sets up the new message
> window with the focus on the To: text box. I'd like it to be in the
> subject line or the text (where the %CURSOR is).

> Here's my template:

> =
> %CURSOR

> tags: some tags i want them "all to share" "Canon EOS
> 1000d" %TO="foo12...@photos.flickr.com"
> =

Would putting the "%to=" line before the "%cursor" line make any
difference?

-- 
Best regards,
 
MFPA

He's an environmentalist - his arguments are 100% recycled

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600  



Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TO-macro and quick templates

[Rick]

> Hello Tbudl,

> I'm setting up a simple quick template to upload photos via email to
> my Flickr account from my mobile computer. That way I can prepare all
> the photos from let's say a day on vacation, put them in the outbox
> and mail them when wifi or such is available.

> My very simple template is working fine, but I find it very annoying
> that TB! sets up the new message window with the focus on the To: text
> box. I'd like it to be in the subject line or the text (where the
> %CURSOR is).

> Here's my template:

> =
> %CURSOR

> tags: some tags i want them "all to share" "Canon EOS 1000d"
> %TO="foo12...@photos.flickr.com"
> =

> As I said, it's really quite easy, nothing special happening. Still,
> starting in the to-field is very annoying. I don't want that extra
> tab/click. Is there a way to change this?

> Thanks a lot,

> simbabque

Try %CURSOR="Body"
-- 
Rick
It is a good rule in life never to apologize.
The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean 
advantage of them.
- P. G. Wodehouse

v4.1.11.29 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 3

 



Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

TO-macro and quick templates

[simbabque]

Hello Tbudl,

I'm setting up a simple quick template to upload photos via email to
my Flickr account from my mobile computer. That way I can prepare all
the photos from let's say a day on vacation, put them in the outbox
and mail them when wifi or such is available.

My very simple template is working fine, but I find it very annoying
that TB! sets up the new message window with the focus on the To: text
box. I'd like it to be in the subject line or the text (where the
%CURSOR is).

Here's my template:

=
%CURSOR

tags: some tags i want them "all to share" "Canon EOS 1000d"
%TO="foo12...@photos.flickr.com"
=

As I said, it's really quite easy, nothing special happening. Still,
starting in the to-field is very annoying. I don't want that extra
tab/click. Is there a way to change this?

Thanks a lot,

simbabque
-- 
Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2



Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: quick templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Roland,

On Mon, 18 May 2009 18:46:08 +0200GMT (18-5-2009, 18:46 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

RB> I'm now missing my quick templates! From one I have had a copy in
RB> Word, but it doesn't work. What is wrong in this template and what have I 
to change?

There's supposed to be a % before IF.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

WIN ERROR #012: Computer doesn't really multitask. (I)gnore (O)rder Amiga..
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.1.11.29 (BETA)
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgpTa92ByubHD.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

quick templates

[Roland Burger]

Hi,

I had to install Windows XP new, installed then TheBat and restored all using a 
backup. But it seems that quick templates are not being backed up!

I'm now missing my quick templates! From one I have had a copy in Word, but it 
doesn't work. What is wrong in this template and what have I to change?

IF:"%ABTOGENDER"="2":"Dear Mrs. %-
%ABTOLastNAME":"%IF:'%ABTOGENDER'='1':'Dear Mr. %ABTOLastNAME':'Dear %-
Ladies and Gentlemen'",


I thought that this template worked before!


-- 
Best regards,
Roland 
 
  

I use TheBat! v4.1.11.29 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3!

Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2009-04-18 · 11:52 h (CET)]

> I do not understand You confusion, do not check buttons You do not
> know, its simple.

BRUHARHAR! You made my day! :-D

Cheers!
VA

- --
Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana!

Using The Bat! 4.1.11.15 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3.

»Sometimes smart alecks drive me nuts!« – Kira Skumme



Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations

[Jim Kyle]

On Saturday, April 18, 2009, at 4:20:47 AM, AC wrote:
> In the same dialog, for each template, there are check boxes for "Use For" 
> "New Messages", "Reply
> Messages", and "Forward messages". However, in each of your Account 
> properties, you have to set up
> templates for all these categories anyway. Again, what's the  difference, and 
> how is each one meant
> to be used? Furthermore, why do i even have to check those options?

I start from the top down. That is, I first set up the templates for my 
accounts (I only use three accounts, and one of those is for archiving old 
messages so it's never used for sending or receiving, hence does not need any 
templates). Then, if I want the same template in both accounts, I set it up as 
a Common Template and in its Options pane, check off both accounts under "Use 
In." This lets me omit that template from both the accounts. The next level 
down is at the "Group" stage. I have several groups of users that get 
specialized templates, stored under the "Group." Finally, there are individual 
templates at the Address Book level, and apply only to the specific user.

When a template is to be used, the program looks first at the Address Book 
level for one specific to the recipient. If there's not one, it looks at the 
groups to which that recipient belongs. If there's still not one, it looks in 
the Common Templates if the account is checked, and finally at the Account 
properties. The first time it finda a template, it's the one used. The only 
ones that have to be there are those in the Account properties. All the rest 
are optional, letting you select special treatment for individual users, for 
user groups, or everyone. In my case, most of the template properties provided 
are left blank. Only a few Address Book templates are used, a couple of groups 
get special treatment, and most of my Quick Templates are specific to one 
account or the other although in all of them I have "Use In" checked for both 
because I created most of them before learning about the Common Templates. I 
don't use the QTINCLUDE macro a lot, but it's nice to have available.

I hope this helps a bit; I agree that the documentation leaves much to be 
desired, mostly because so much of what does exist is obsolete and no longer 
valid. There is a conventional online forum, but my experience has been that 
the mailing lists are so much more helpful that I've not logged into that forum 
for many weeks now and when I do, I don't find much of interest. One of the 
reasons for lack of documentation is the lack of a common language; the user 
base here is the most internationalized of all the programs I use. I understand 
that if I were able to read Russian I could find more information on line 
(since that's the native language of the developers). This is a problem for 
many other programs as well; that's why the mailing lists continue to be the 
most reliable data sources.

-- 
Jim Kyle

Using The Bat! v4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 3
with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.0.1.2

Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, April 18, 2009, AC wrote:

> I  have  huge  problems  with  templates because there are many confusing
> options  and difficult to find documentation.  So, I'm just going to list
> my several questions on templates that have been bugging me:

what huge problems are You speaking about?

> There's  a "Common Templates" section in the quick templates dialog.  But
> every template also has a checkbox for "share with other accounts".  This
> is confusing.  What's the difference?  How does each work?

Common templates section in QT editor is available allways for viewing and
editing, even You are logged to program as administrator or user.

When You log into program via account with "user" rights, You will see
specific QTs and Common templates, but if there are some shared templates
from other accounts, You can use them from main toolbar, where is a small
arrow for displaying and using them. So they can be used, but not edited.

> In  the  same  dialog,  for each template, there are check boxes for "Use
> For"  "New Messages", "Reply Messages", and "Forward messages".  However,
> in  each of your Account properties, you have to set up templates for all
> these  categories  anyway.  Again, what's the difference, and how is each
> one meant to be used?

as in previous answer, You can add a flag to a quick template about its
purpose, so if You check "New messages and Mass Mailing", You will see it
in New message dropdown and in Address Book for sending Mass mailing, if
You check "Reply messages", You will see it in Reply button dropdown.

> Furthermore, why do i even have to check those options?!  Whenever I want
> to  use a quick template inside another template, I can always do so with
> the  QINCLUDE function, right?  I don't have to check those boxes at all.
> Very, very confusing.

I do not understand You confusion, do not check buttons You do not know,
its simple.

> Is  there somewhere that lists all the template functions in some kind of
> organized  fashion?   I'm  talking all the functions and how to use them?
> For example, the ISSIGNATURE command makes no sense to me whatsoever.

look to help, macros like ISSIGNATURE are explained there.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.1.11.15
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.0.1
Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 




Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations

[AC]

I have huge problems with templates because there are many confusing options 
and difficult to find
documentation. So, I'm just going to list my several questions on templates 
that have been bugging
me:

There's a "Common Templates" section in the quick templates dialog. But every 
template also has a
checkbox for "share with other accounts". This is confusing. What's the 
difference? How does each
work?

In the same dialog, for each template, there are check boxes for "Use For" "New 
Messages", "Reply
Messages", and "Forward messages". However, in each of your Account properties, 
you have to set up
templates for all these categories anyway. Again, what's the difference, and 
how is each one meant
to be used? Furthermore, why do i even have to check those options?! Whenever I 
want to use a quick
template inside another template, I can always do so with the QINCLUDE 
function, right? I don't have
to check those boxes at all. Very, very confusing.

Is there somewhere that lists all the template functions in some kind of 
organized fashion? I'm
talking all the functions and how to use them? For example, the ISSIGNATURE 
command makes no sense
to me whatsoever.

Thanks for all the advice. I love the Bat, but there seriously needs to be a 
more convenient place
to find answers to these questions besides mailing lists newsgroups. A good 
help file would be
ideal. but I understand if that's not the developer's priority. At least a 
normal web forum or
something. Newsgroups and mailing lists are old-school. I still haven't set up 
my newsreader to be
able to reply to messages...all I can do is create a new message right now. OK, 
I'm done!

-- 
AC




Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Group Mailing wrong Templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MFPA,

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:06:40 +GMT (21-12-2008, 20:06 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

M> This is not the behaviour suggested by the help file entry for the %To
M> macro:-

You're right, there's a bug in the help file (probably more)
The %To= macro adds addresses to the To: header, it doesn't change the
To: header into the given value.
As  the  %To= macro has always behaved like this, before and after the
current help file, I think it's an honest mistake in the help file.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

May we kiss those we please, and please those we kiss.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.1.3
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
3 pop3 accounts
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgpsTvBUoTTxc.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Group Mailing wrong Templates

[MFPA]

Hi

On Sunday 21 December 2008 at 3:20:02 PM, in
, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:


> But this is a matter for TBUDL rather than TBBETA, as
> it is not a beta issue. XP and f'up to TBUDL.

Difficult to follow this thread, since the previous messages were not posted
to TBUDL.

The previous poster wrote:-

JF>> 
JF>>  maybe please
JF>> simply follow my steps: - Create an
JF>> %TO="em...@adress.com" in any Folder Template for
JF>> New   Message - in the Main Screen, place the Cursor
JF>> on this Folder, so it is marked - open the
JF>> Adressbook - select a Group or a Person - right
JF>> click on it and select "New Message" (CTRL-Enter) -
JF>> you now have the %TO of the Folder and the Adress
JF>> from the Adressbook   in you To: (Destination)
JF>> Field.


I can confirm that I also get a "To:" line containing both the
recipient from the address book entry I selected to create the new
message and the recipient inserted by the "%TO" macro in the folder
template (when there is no AB template defined for the AB entry).

This is not the behaviour suggested by the help file entry for the %To
macro:-

Help File> TO="address(es)" Changes the TO header to the value given
Help File> by the parameter. If left empty it will remove all
Help File> addresses already in the header.


If left empty the %to macro does what the help file says - it clears
the To header
-- 
Best regards,
 
MFPA

Confusion is always the most honest response

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600  



Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Group Mailing wrong Templates

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jens,

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:27:29 +0100 GMT (21/12/2008, 19:27 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

JF> Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 at 05:37, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>> Let me see if I understand you correctly: You have a %TO= macro in a
>> folder template

JF> Yes

>> and a %TO= macro in the AB template.

JF> No

JF> 
JF> The Situation is quite different, maybe please simply follow my steps:
JF> - Create an %TO="em...@adress.com" in any Folder Template for New
JF>   Message
JF> - in the Main Screen, place the Cursor on this Folder, so it is marked
JF> - open the Adressbook
JF> - select a Group or a Person
JF> - right click on it and select "New Message" (CTRL-Enter)
JF> - you now have the %TO of the Folder and the Adress from the Adressbook
JF>   in you To: (Destination) Field.

JF> There is no context between the Folder, selected in Main Screen and the
JF> New Message created from the Adressbook - i would say.

Well, there is. Believe me, TB! knows which folder is active when you
create a new message.

Besides, otherwise Folder templates wouldn't work at all.

But this is a matter for TBUDL rather than TBBETA, as it is not a beta
issue. XP and f'up to TBUDL.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Er rannte ohne Beute davon, wurde aber von der Ueberwachungskamera
noch festgehalten.
http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2




Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Using individual templates

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Mark Partous« · 2008-08-07 · 16:20 h (CET)]

Moin, Mark!

>> My observations over time and repeated searches of my Address Book
>> have demonstrated to my satisfaction that duplicate entries do not
>> exist.

> How did you perform your repeated searches?

> Did you try the following:

> Open the AB.
> Click on Personal AB.
> File - Export To - Address List (Plain Text)
> Open that file with an editor.
> Find (name of the person in question)?

> Still no duplicate entries?

An easier way would be:

- copy the e-mail address of the recipient => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- open a new message
- paste address in to: field

=> Automatic Completion will be triggered and in a list-box with all
   the corresponding AB entries will appear.

Cheers!
VA

- --
Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana!

Using The Bat! 4.0.26.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2.

»Infinity itself looks flat and uninteresting. Looking up into the
night sky is looking into infinity – distance is incomprehensible and
therefore meaningless.«

Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy«



Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Using individual templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Leonard,

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:53:27 -0400GMT (7-8-2008, 15:53 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

LB> When I reply to an e-mail note from someone whose e-mail address is in
LB> my Address Book, I expect that the reply template for that person will
LB> be used, if such a termplate exists. However, that is usually not the
LB> case; the account-level reply template is used instead. Why is this
LB> the case, and how can I prevent this.?

The most common reason for address book templates that aren't used
are duplicate address book entries for the same address.
That doesn't mean that both entries need to have that address set as
primary address.

Another reason that AB templates aren't triggered can be corruption of
your address book.
Create a backup with TB of your AB and restore that on top of your old
one.

AB templates won't be used when you edit the message body before you
set the recipient.

AB will only be used when they are set for the first address og the to
gheader

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

Unbelief in one thing springs = blind belief in another.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.0.26.5
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
3 pop3 accounts
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgp5lO5JusbSf.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Using individual templates

[Mark Partous]

Hello Leonard,

Thursday, August 7, 2008, 3:53:27 PM, you wrote:

LB> Previous responses suggested that I may have more than a single
LB> Address Book entry for some persons, and this may be the cause of the
LB> "confusion." My observations over time and repeated searches of my
LB> Address Book have demonstrated to my satisfaction that duplicate
LB> entries do not exist.

How did you perform your repeated searches?

Did you try the following:

Open the AB.
Click on Personal AB.
File - Export To - Address List (Plain Text)
Open that file with an editor.
Find (name of the person in question)?

Still no duplicate entries?

-- 
Best Wishes,
Mark
using The Bat! 4.0.26.4





Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html