Re: F50FE5DF]: Scrambled addressbook message templates after upgrade
On Monday, June 21, 2021, 09:02:06, Ian A. White wrote: > After upgrading from version 4.2 to version 9.3.4, ALL my message templates > for address groups in the addressbook are horribly scrambled. They appear as > HTML source code converted to something like UTF-7 or UTF-8. > Does anyone know of an online tool that can be used to make easier sense out > of this "dialect"? > So far, the online tools take the scrambled text and simply repeats it with > no conversion. > The problem is I have dozens of these templates that need updating. If you have a backup from before you did the upgrade, I suggest you reinstall the old version and restore the backup, then upgrade through all intermediate major versions: <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive-versions.php> (don't forget to run TB once after each upgrade, maybe also check a template or two) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Experience varies directly with equipment ruined. -- Morner's Rule of Thumb Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Useful templates
Hi MFPA, Thanks, that's helpful. For reference your email appears without the text being readable (see attached). Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 8:32:14 AM, you wrote: Hi On Tuesday 1 December 2020 at 3:37:38 PM, in , Acheton wrote:- I wondered whether there were any templates / macros that the community have found particularly useful that others could share? The most useful sources online seems to be silverstones.com but seem to be broken currently. That's been broken for quite some time but the Wayback Machine has a snapshot at https://web.archive.org/web/20070705050832/http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> It's better to feed one cat than many mice Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 -- Warmest regards, Acheton Created using TheBat! 9.3.0.2 on Windows 10 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Useful templates
Hi On Tuesday 1 December 2020 at 3:37:38 PM, in , Acheton wrote:- I wondered whether there were any templates / macros that the community have found particularly useful that others could share? The most useful sources online seems to be silverstones.com but seem to be broken currently. That's been broken for quite some time but the Wayback Machine has a snapshot at https://web.archive.org/web/20070705050832/http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> It's better to feed one cat than many mice Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Useful templates
Hi all, I wondered whether there were any templates / macros that the community have found particularly useful that others could share? The most useful sources online seems to be silverstones.com but seem to be broken currently. Anyway if you have anything that you find useful I'd love to know! -- Warmest regards, Acheton Created using TheBat! 9.3.0.2 on Windows 10 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Change HTML templates
Hello, Where can I change things like a font declaration in HTML message and CSS styling of reply (by default - with #ff border) ? I am aware of Account Properties --> Templates and Viewer templates, but using these I can tweak only plain-text representaiton, surely HTML is adjustable... Somewhere. -- Cheers, A Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move Templates
Hi On Friday 26 April 2019 at 6:51:03 PM, in , Richard Newman wrote:- > I'm changing my primary email account to a new one. > Is there a > way to move Templates from one account to another? (I > understand > sharing but I want to get rid of the account where > the templates were originally created. I don't know of a way other than copy/paste. Or you could change the address on your primary account in TB! to the new email address. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> During an eruption - move away from the volcano - not towards it Using The Bat! v8.8.2.5 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 17134 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Move Templates
Hello Bat People, I'm changing my primary email account to a new one. Is there a way to move Templates from one account to another? (I understand sharing but I want to get rid of the account where the templates were originally created. Thanks. -- Best regards, Richard mailto:the...@newmangroup.com = Using The Bat! v8.8.2.6 (BETA) on Windows XP10 Build 17763 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replicate all options & templates PC to PC
Hello Fellow Bats I have TB! setup nearly as perfectly as desired on 1 PC. Is there a way to easily replicate the entire installation onto another PC? I do NOT need to do a full backup & restore as the messages and accounts already exist on both PCs, I just want all options, preferences templates etc for all accounts the same on both PCs. Thx RG -- Best regards, Rich Gregory Random tagline: When we see men of worth, we should think of equaling them; when we see men of a contrary character, we should turn inwards and examine ourselves. - Confucius Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating from 2.12 templates
You wrote: > I'll need help tweaking templates as my old install had some QTs that > I cannot find a way to move over as well Did you simply try to install version 7 over version 2.12? Do you mean that after the installation, some of the templates are lost? Or the template text is not properly interpreted? Please compress all The Bat! 2 configuration with an archiver like ZIP. The Bat! version 7 should take all version 2 configuration automatically. If it won't, send me this ZIP and we will try to figure out and fix a problem, if any. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Updating from 2.12 templates
Hello TBUDL, Moving to this new TB! from v 2.12. I'll need help tweaking templates as my old install had some QTs that I cannot find a way to move over as well, so recreating some of that functionality will most likely have to be moved to regular templates I assume. For example, (not even knowing if the question makes sense w/o seeing the old QTs) how would this translate: %if:'%ABToHandle'<>'%ABToFirstName':'%ABToHandle':'%ABToFirstName'":"%ABToFirstName"+) Thanks folks. -- Random tagline: Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Sunday, August 13, 2017, 1:25:49 AM, you wrote: > You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place > in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any > account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the > folder for the relevant account. Happy to confirm that this still works and it works well. All my account specific template from the account that had the most templates are now treated as common templates, making adding a few additional ones much easier. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on XP Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hi On Sunday 13 August 2017 at 5:51:14 AM, in <mid:102309136.20170813145...@sunnysydney.com>, Tom wrote:- > Great - I have never used common QTF though it > seems now that might > have been easier allround. Is it possible to copy the > Account.QTB file > of one specific account into the Common location and > that way turn the > account specific templates into common templates ? > Then I would only > have to manually set up a few other templates > scattered around various > accounts to have everything as common templates. Yes. At least, it worked when I did it a few years ago. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Did you hear about the blind carpenter who picked up his hammer and saw? Using The Bat! v7.4.16.14 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
> You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place > in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any > account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the > folder for the relevant account. Great - I have never used common QTF though it seems now that might have been easier allround. Is it possible to copy the Account.QTB file of one specific account into the Common location and that way turn the account specific templates into common templates ? Then I would only have to manually set up a few other templates scattered around various accounts to have everything as common templates. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on XP Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hi On Saturday 12 August 2017 at 10:44:36 AM, in <mid:1521977.20170812194...@sunnysydney.com>, Tom wrote:- > Hello Everyone, > I just bought another license and would like > to use my existing > templates from my main pc on a second pc. What would > be the procedure > to export / import the quick templates. > I think I will set up everything else from scratch > but would like to > have my templates imported and ready from the start. You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the folder for the relevant account. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Dreams come true on this side of the Rainbow too! Using The Bat! v7.4.16.14 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates
Hello Everyone, I just bought another license and would like to use my existing templates from my main pc on a second pc. What would be the procedure to export / import the quick templates. I think I will set up everything else from scratch but would like to have my templates imported and ready from the start. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on Win 7Prof, 64bit Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Templates question
Hello Volker, On Tuesday, May 16, 2017, you wrote: > [In Reply to: »Chris Wilson« · 2017-05-16 · 11:33 h (CET)] > Moin, Chris et al.! >>>> I subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always >>>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list >>>> address. i have put the following templates under the folder >>>> properties, but despite this the replies go to the sender of the >>>> message. What have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my >>>> sig, thanks. >>>> %REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>" >>> Please try without angle brackets: >>> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com" >> Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still >> isn't working Thomas. Even if the From: line to the list shows like >> this >> Bryan Swadener via Amps <a...@contesting.com> >> The reply goes to >> Bryan Swadener <bswade...@yahoo.com> > Try this: > %TO=""%- > %TO="a...@contesting.com" > First line clears the To field. Second line sets the address of the > mailing list. > %REPLYTO sets an alternative reply address of *your* e-mail, e. g.: > - you send an e-mail with %REPLYTO="<gniddlf...@blub.com>" > - my reply to your mail will be sent to gniddlf...@blub.com > Cheers! > VA That's done the trick! Excellent, many many thanks Volker :) -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates question
[In Reply to: »Chris Wilson« · 2017-05-16 · 11:33 h (CET)]
Moin, Chris et al.!
>>> I subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
>>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
>>> address. i have put the following templates under the folder
>>> properties, but despite this the replies go to the sender of the
>>> message. What have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
>>> sig, thanks.
>>> %REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>"
>> Please try without angle brackets:
>> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"
> Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still
> isn't working Thomas. Even if the From: line to the list shows like
> this
> Bryan Swadener via Amps <a...@contesting.com>
> The reply goes to
> Bryan Swadener <bswade...@yahoo.com>
Try this:
%TO=""%-
%TO="a...@contesting.com"
First line clears the To field. Second line sets the address of the
mailing list.
%REPLYTO sets an alternative reply address of *your* e-mail, e. g.:
- you send an e-mail with %REPLYTO="<gniddlf...@blub.com>"
- my reply to your mail will be sent to gniddlf...@blub.com
Cheers!
VA
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Re[2]: Templates question
Hello Thomas, On Tuesday, May 16, 2017, you wrote: > Hello Chris, > On Mon, 15 May 2017 16:25:58 +0100 GMT (15/05/2017, 22:25 +0700 GMT), > Chris Wilson wrote: >> I subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always >> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list >> address. i have put the following templates under the folder >> properties, but despite this the replies go to the sender of the >> message. What have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my >> sig, thanks. >> %REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>" > Please try without angle brackets: > %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com" Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still isn't working Thomas. Even if the From: line to the list shows like this Bryan Swadener via Amps <a...@contesting.com> The reply goes to Bryan Swadener <bswade...@yahoo.com> 99% of mailing lists I have no trouble with, mainly Yahoo ones, but this list is a pain as I inadvertently reply via e-mail rather than to the whole list unless I am careful. Thanks, other ideas more than welcome :) -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates question
Hello Chris, On Mon, 15 May 2017 16:25:58 +0100 GMT (15/05/2017, 22:25 +0700 GMT), Chris Wilson wrote: > I subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always > goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list > address. i have put the following templates under the folder > properties, but despite this the replies go to the sender of the > message. What have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my > sig, thanks. > %REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>" Please try without angle brackets: %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com" -- Cheers, Thomas. Travel Map: http://matadornetwork.com/travel-map/db757901ff009eef93a2fc09521fb6bf-1482632877 Message reply created with The Bat! 7.4.16 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates question
15 May 2017 I subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list address. i have put the following templates under the folder properties, but despite this the replies go to the sender of the message. What have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my sig, thanks. %REPLYTO="<a...@contesting.com>" -- Best Regards, Chris Wilson mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv "Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Modifying templates
Hello TBUD Listers, My wife insists in using HTML in all her email correspondence and I'm running into a major stumbling block regarding font. She does not use any AB templates so all messages should be generated from ACCOUNT PROPERTIES or FOLDER PROPERTIES templates. I was not able to change the font for NEW messages by modifying the templates in either of those two locations and finally had to go to OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-VIEWER/EDITOR-PROFILE LAYOUT to achieve the change in NEW messages. She is using version 6.0.12 of TB! Home Edition. My immediate problem is that although I was able to change the NEW MESSAGE font from within PROFILE LAYOUT, I cannot change the font in the REPLY template. In fact, if I change the font from within ACCOUNT-PROPERTIES-TEMPLATES-REPLY and click OK the box closes as you would expect. However if I immediately re-open the above template, I see that the changes I made were not saved. This happens in either ACCOUNT PROPERTIES or FOLDER PROPERTIES (regardless of which folder is in focus). I'm assuming I'm missing something here but I can't see what it is. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. OS: Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Monday, March 16, 2015, 1:22:50 AM, you wrote: I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email is a message and not a presentation. Same here. Email is email. HTML is for websites. If all that presentation is actually needed, that's what file attachments are for. Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hi On Friday 13 March 2015 at 5:30:42 PM, in mid:1338099699.20150313133...@grunwalds.com, Rick wrote: You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo, flowered borders etc :)) Fortunately, the recipient can view messages in plain text and not be subjected to the visual assault you describe. (-; -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hi On Friday 13 March 2015 at 12:17:09 AM, in mid:428509221.20150312191...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version differences). But even then after I've selected Signature Text and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in an AB reply. Not sure if related, but your cut mark has gained a space at the beginning, and therefore no longer works. In your previous two messages it was fine. -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net No matter what a man's past may have been, his future is spotless. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Fortunately, the recipient can view messages in plain text and not be subjected to the visual assault you describe. (-; Personally I will be adding leprechauns for St Patty's day and change them to Easter bunnies after that :)) Hows THAT for a visual assault? :))) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hi On Sunday 15 March 2015 at 4:54:03 PM, in mid:1727854470.20150315125...@grunwalds.com, Rick wrote: Personally I will be adding leprechauns for St Patty's day and change them to Easter bunnies after that :)) Hows THAT for a visual assault? :))) Fine by me; I would not see them. I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email is a message and not a presentation. If any of my correspondents choose to add bells and whistles, I do not see them so they cannot distract my attention from the message. -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net A closed door is an invitation to knock Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Could someone kindly explain the practical effect this setting for the AB template -- or any level of template. You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo, flowered borders etc :)) I used to always include the Geico Gecko when corresponding with my insurance agent Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
On Thursday, March 12, 2015, 11:08:15 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: making sure the the AB template is set to HTML Could someone kindly explain the practical effect this setting for the AB template -- or any level of template. Thank you. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
On Friday, March 13, 2015, 1:30:42 PM, Rick Grunwalds (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo, flowered borders etc :)) I used to always include the Geico Gecko when corresponding with my insurance agent Thanks. Did it take 15 minutes to set up this insurance-agent template? grin Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Did it take 15 minutes to set up this insurance-agent template? Hehehe yes but it was worth it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hello Rick, On Friday, March 13, 2015 you wrote: Hello MFPA, On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in M mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font). Any ideas as to why this would happen? M What font do you have set for Signature Text at M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor? Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version differences). But even then after I've selected Signature Text and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in an AB reply. Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying. R The AB template is overriding it. Make changes to the AB template and R you should be good to go (making sur the the AB template is set to R HTML The salutation and sig in the AB template are both set to Times New Roman 14pt and the format is already set to HTML. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hello Thomas, On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 17:05:36 -0500 GMT (10-Mar-15, 05:05 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Hello TBUs, Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which template to use for new messages, replies etc. On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but on another I might want a more generalized folder account template. I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES. TF AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows (highest to lowest): TF AB template TF Folder template TF Account template TF HTH. Well, I was going to reply that that priority didn't work for me until I realized that although I was replying to an existing denizen of my AB, although it was the same name, it was written from a new email address. Once I added that new email address to her list of email addresses, the AB reply template always comes up now. I notice however that although the template is composed in Times New Roman 14pt, the template text below the quoted text (my sig) in the reply reverts to Courier New 12pt. The template is as follows: Hi Honey, On %ODATEEN= you wrote: %QUOTES %CURSOR -- Toodles, Dad As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font). Any ideas as to why this would happen? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hello MFPA, On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in M mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font). Any ideas as to why this would happen? M What font do you have set for Signature Text at M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor? Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version differences). But even then after I've selected Signature Text and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in an AB reply. Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying. The AB template is overriding it. Make changes to the AB template and you should be good to go (making sur the the AB template is set to HTML -- Rick For some years now, students have not been getting to the root of the aim of Zen, instead taking the verbal teachings of Buddhas and Zen masters to be the ultimate rule. That is like ignoring a hundred thousand pure clear oceans and only focusing attention on a single bubble. - Ying-an Version 6.7.38.2 (32-bit) on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hi On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font). Any ideas as to why this would happen? What font do you have set for Signature Text at Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net When duty calls...hang up immediately Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hello MFPA, On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in M mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font). Any ideas as to why this would happen? M What font do you have set for Signature Text at M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor? Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version differences). But even then after I've selected Signature Text and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in an AB reply. Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hi On Tuesday 10 March 2015 at 2:02:42 AM, in mid:1978078585.20150310090...@gmx.net, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows (highest to lowest): AB template Folder template Account template That is the priority given in the TB! help file; there are also AB Group Templates, which are not mentioned in the help file but I think come after AB Templates and before Folder Templates. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net A nod is as good as a wink to a blind bat! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates
Hello TBUs, Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which template to use for new messages, replies etc. On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but on another I might want a more generalized folder account template. I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates
Hello Jack, On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 17:05:36 -0500 GMT (10-Mar-15, 05:05 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Hello TBUs, Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which template to use for new messages, replies etc. On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but on another I might want a more generalized folder account template. I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES. AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows (highest to lowest): AB template Folder template Account template HTH. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.7.20 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick templates and html
Hi On Wednesday 16 April 2014 at 2:22:19 AM, in mid:897822825.20140416112...@anson.net.au, Robin Anson wrote: How can that be? I don't know, but I have finally given up on TB! for business use and am moving to Outlook now. Wow, that's drastic. At work I am forced to use Outlook, but do not use HTML except on the very odd occasion that I need to add into the email _body_ something that cannot easily be shown in plaintext. The vast majority of the time, such content sits more happily in my mind as an attachment. I send and receive dozens of emails per day with (mainly) Word, Excel, and PDF attachments. I only send an HTML email a small handful of times per year, and typically only receive one or two per month that cannot be usefully viewed in plaintext Many of my colleagues use HTML for all emails, pointlessly as the only thing they could not have done in plaintext is a fancy or coloured font in their signature block. (-; -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net I'll tell you what's the matter! This parrot is dead! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick templates and html
Hello Robin, On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:22:19 +1000GMT Robin Anson wrote: RA How can that be? I don't know, but I have finally given up on TB! for RA business use and am moving to Outlook now. What a pity! I use HTML templates for my business accounts and they are working without problems. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! Version 6.3.4 (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0. [The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan Plaugher)] Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick templates and html
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 at 00:52:24 +0400,Assad wrote: Hello Robin, On 08 April 2014, Robin Anson wrote and made these points on the subject of Quick templates and html: RA I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick RA templates (e.g. , ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an RA html message template. One way you can circumvent this problem is to have the template in a separate Quick Template then use %Qinclude to call for the template. Actually, that is what I do. I have discovered that if I execute the QT manually, i.e. I type it's handle and then press CTRL+SPACE, it works fine. If I use %QInclude to call it from the template, it fails. How can that be? I don't know, but I have finally given up on TB! for business use and am moving to Outlook now. -- Robin Using The Bat! v6.3.2 Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Quick templates and html
Hello Robin, On 08 April 2014, Robin Anson wrote and made these points on the subject of Quick templates and html: RA I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick RA templates (e.g. , ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an RA html message template. One way you can circumvent this problem is to have the template in a separate Quick Template then use %Qinclude to call for the template. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 6.3.2 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick templates and html
Batfolk, Has anyone any experience with using html templates and quick templates together? I have to use html for business purposes (company standard) and I have an extensive set of quick templates that I use for formatting emails etc. However the two do not seem to mix well. When I use my existing templates with an html message template, I end up with a host of delimiters and blank lines in the message that simply don't appear in a plain text message. I have noted, for instance, that if I include a line in the html message template containing only the following characters %- it produces a blank line in message. In a plain text message it produces no output. Unfortunately I use lots of such lines in my quick templates to help make it readable I haven't yet sorted out why the delimiters I use in my quick templates (e.g. , ', %, $, ^, etc) appear in the output when I use an html message template. Robin Anson -- Robin Using The Bat! v6.3.2 Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recover Folder Templates
Hello Richard, On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:54:18 -0500 GMT (05-Nov-13, 05:54 +0700 GMT), Richard Newman wrote: I reinstalled TB and changed accounts. How can I recover New Message, Reply and Forward templates for particular directories? I guess the other way to ask that is what files contain the New Message, Repy and Forward templates for particular directories (rather than accounts)? I believe the templates are contained in the file account.qtn or account.qtb - but these files are binary. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recover Folder Templates
Hello Richard, On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:54:18 -0500 GMT (05-Nov-13, 05:54 +0700 GMT), Richard Newman wrote: I reinstalled TB and changed accounts. How can I recover New Message, Reply and Forward templates for particular directories? I guess the other way to ask that is what files contain the New Message, Repy and Forward templates for particular directories (rather than accounts)? I believe the templates are contained in the file account.qtn or account.qtb - but these files are binary. 08 November 2013 Would Ritlabs divulge what the various root files are please, for curiosities' sake? -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recover Folder Templates
Hello Chris, On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:12:05 + GMT (08-Nov-13, 22:12 +0700 GMT), Chris Wilson wrote: I believe the templates are contained in the file account.qtn or account.qtb - but these files are binary. Would Ritlabs divulge what the various root files are please, for curiosities' sake? I think this would be a good idea. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Recover Folder Templates
Hello Bat People, I reinstalled TB and changed accounts. How can I recover New Message, Reply and Forward templates for particular directories? I guess the other way to ask that is what files contain the New Message, Repy and Forward templates for particular directories (rather than accounts)? Thanks. -- Best regards, Richard mailto:the...@newmangroup.com = Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP6 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving QT's from account to common templates
observe there is no function to copy/paste or move I'm surprised there is still no function to copy/paste or drag/drop. I believe this feature was requested in 2008, not long after the location for common QTs was introduced. Prior to that, the tidiest you could get was to store them all in one account and mark them all as shared. In a thread on this list from Dec 2008/Jan 2009, MAU suggested:- +++ many thanks mate, much appreciated will have a go at this.. thanks again -- vernon Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
moving QT's from account to common templates
hello friends, is there a possibility to move quick templates from account templates to common templates and vice versa? observe there is no function to copy/paste or move look forward to hear thank you -- vernon Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving QT's from account to common templates
Hi On Wednesday 2 October 2013 at 7:47:39 AM, in mid:30667527.20131002121...@monsell.lk, mons...@monsell.lk wrote: hello friends, is there a possibility to move quick templates from account templates to common templates and vice versa? observe there is no function to copy/paste or move I'm surprised there is still no function to copy/paste or drag/drop. I believe this feature was requested in 2008, not long after the location for common QTs was introduced. Prior to that, the tidiest you could get was to store them all in one account and mark them all as shared. In a thread on this list from Dec 2008/Jan 2009, MAU suggested:- Make a copy of your ACCOUNT.QTB file in Mail directory (this is the Common QTs) somewhere for safety. Same for the QTB file in the account you mention. Then *move* account's QTB to your Mail directory and start TB and see if it worked. If not, restore QTB files where they were. Ian A. White reported success with that method. I think he probably previously had all his QTs under one account. I had most of my QTs under the one account, so copied that ACCOUNT.QTB to the Mail directory. I had a small number in other accounts, and after spending a few minutes experimenting with copying from one QTB file to another decided my time was better spent copying the content of my few QTs remaining in other accounts into newly-created common QTs. I found when I had them all as common QTs and deleted my old ACCOUNT.QTB files in the individual accounts, they came back when re-starting The Bat! and the individual account QTs reappeared. Leaving empty text files called ACCOUNT.QTB in their place stopped this,. The explanation Marek Mikus was that QTs had previously been stored in files called ACCOUNT.QTN. Experimentation showed that presence of ACCOUNT.QTN in the absence of ACCOUNT.QTB triggered The Bat! to convert the QTs to the new file format and generate a new ACCOUNT.QTB. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Beware the deadly donkey falling slowly from the sky Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: sending messages to a group; templates
Hi Marck, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 6:16:59 PM, you wrote: A I tried to place %ABtoHANDLE %TOADDR in the to field, but that A yielded an error message: MP Yes - these are *template* macros. The clue here is the word MP template, meaning they can only be correctly interpreted when used MP in a template. I don't mean to patronize - just trying to help. First, thank you very much. After experimenting with a test group of test contacts, I finally figured out how to set this up. Once you explained that I could not use the template macro in a regular message and only within a template, it was easier for me to get this to work. This may be elementary, but if one doesn't regularly use macros and templates Now, I have another related problem: You wrote that I need to create the entire message as a Mass Mailing Template. Yet, I want the message to have as its body the salutation, followed by an image that is an invitation that I created in MS Publisher and saved as a jpeg file. In a regular message, I can just copy and paste, so long as I have the regular message set to HTML and not plain text. How do I insert my jpeg invitation into the body of the mass mailing, so that when the message is opened by the recipient, the recipient sees the image of the invitation? Secondly, how do I request reading and/or delivery confirmation with a mass mailing? -- Best regards, Avi Avram Sacks Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP Pro sp3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
sending messages to a group; templates
Hi, everyone, I want to send an invitation to a group. I created a group of contacts (Invitation to Friends and Relatives). However, I want each recipient to see only their own name and e-mail address in the to field. If I put the group name in the to field, such as Invitation to Friends and Relatives list the every display name and e-mail address appears in the to field of a recipient's e-mail. On the other hand, if I place either individual e-mail addresses OR the group name in the BCC field, NO address appears in the header. That is, the to field is blank. (1) Is there a way to send an e-mail to a group such that ONLY the recipient's e-mail address appears in the to field? Related to this question is how the recipient's address actually appears. Let's say John Doe is married to Jane and has an e-mail address, john...@gmail.com. When I send an invitation to John and Jane, I just don't want the to field to show the e-mail address, or even John's first name. Rather, I would want the to field to show something like: John and Jane Doe john...@gmail.com I thought I could set up each contact's nickname to reflect how I would want the names to appear in the to field, but it appears that only the display name is grabbed for this purpose. Can I change it so that the nickname is grabbed? Right now, in order to get the names to appear the way I want them is to place in the first name field for the contact, the following: John and Jane Is this correct, is this what I have to do in order to yield an address that appears: John and Jane Doe john...@gmail.com (3) Finally, I want to personalize each e-mail by placing into the the e-mail's salutation whatever I have placed in a contact's Nickname. Sometimes it will be Dear John and Jane but other times the salutation will be Dear, John, Jane, and Charlie where Charlie is John and Jane's minor child, who lives with them. So, I created a quick template with the following content (following the guidelines of the Mass Mailing Tutorial), Dear %ABtoNICKNAME However, when I send an e-mail to a test group using this salutation, only Dear appears in the recipient's e-mail salutation and not, Dear John, Jane, and Charlie What am I doing wrong? //Avi Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending messages to a group; templates
Dear Achdut18, @8-Jul-2012, 16:35 -0500 (08-Jul 22:35 here) Achdut18 [A] in mid:927461077.20120708163...@gmail.com said: ... snip A (1) Is there a way to send an e-mail to a group such that ONLY the A recipient's e-mail address appears in the to field? This is the exact purpose for which the Mass Mailing feature was designed. It will mean generating individual emails for each recipient, but that seems to be the requirement anyway. You can use %TO='%ABtoHANDLE %TOADDR' to set the addressing of the email as you wish. ... snip A Dear %ABtoNICKNAME ... snip A Dear John, Jane, and Charlie What am I doing wrong? This specific field is accessed as %ABtoHANDLE. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.1.6.7 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpOxkom56nSC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: sending messages to a group; templates
Hello Marck, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:50:17 PM, you wrote: A (1) Is there a way to send an e-mail to a group such that ONLY the A recipient's e-mail address appears in the to field? MP This is the exact purpose for which the Mass Mailing feature was MP designed. It will mean generating individual emails for each MP recipient, but that seems to be the requirement anyway. MP You can use MP %TO='%ABtoHANDLE %TOADDR' MP to set the addressing of the email as you wish. I am still confused. This may be elementary, but I need some step by step hand-holding. If I create a mail message that I want to go to all 100 contacts in a group, what do I do to easily accomplish that? The only way I know to get a mail message to automatically go to everyone in the group is to open up the address book, highlight the group and then click on new message. The group handle will appear in the to field followed by list If I send the e-mail that way, every address will appear in the to field in the recipient's e-mail. If I cut and paste that information into the BCC field, then the recipient won't see anything in the to field. I tried to place %ABtoHANDLE %TOADDR in the to field, but that yielded an error message: Message has not been sent. Server reply - 5.1.2 or other punctuation after the recipient's email address. qo3sm17010535igc.8 MP ... snip A (3) Finally, I want to personalize each e-mail by placing into the A e-mail's salutation whatever I have placed in a contact's A Nickname.Dear John, Jane, and Charlie What am I doing wrong? MP This specific field is accessed as %ABtoHANDLE. This didn't work either. I wrote in the body of the e-mail (without the quotation marks) the following: Dear %ABtoHANDLE, However, my test e-mails were received with the above text, as if %ABto HANDLE was a name like any other rather than a signal to insert the text of what actually was in the handle for each contact, such as John, Jane and Charlie What am I doing wrong? -- Avi Avram Sacks Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on WinXP Pro sp3 and Win7 Home Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending messages to a group; templates
Dear Achdut18, @8-Jul-2012, 17:49 -0500 (08-Jul 23:49 here) Achdut18 [A] in mid:428094191.20120708174...@gmail.com said to Marck: ... snip MP %TO='%ABtoHANDLE %TOADDR' MP to set the addressing of the email as you wish. A I am still confused. This may be elementary, but I need some step by A step hand-holding. A If I create a mail message that I want to go to all 100 contacts in a A group, what do I do to easily accomplish that? You create your entire message as a Mass Mailing Template. These are Quick templates, created in the Quick Template editor that have the Mass Mailing Template checkbox ticked. The template will include the macros for attribution and manipulation of the To field as well as the entire body of the message you wish to send. You can get very clever by using other fields of the address book to conditionally add or remove whole paragraphs, but that means getting fairly sophisticated. A The only way I know to get a mail message to automatically go to A everyone in the group is to open up the address book, highlight the A group and then click on new message. The group handle will appear A in the to field followed by list There is another way. In the Address book, highlight the group then, from the Address book menu choose File - New - Mass Mailing using Template. This will give you all the options you need to generate individual emails to every member of the chosen group (or the currently selected subset of specific entries) using the template you wrote your mass mailing message template in. A I tried to place %ABtoHANDLE %TOADDR in the to field, but that A yielded an error message: Yes - these are *template* macros. The clue here is the word template, meaning they can only be correctly interpreted when used in a template. I don't mean to patronize - just trying to help. ... snip A What am I doing wrong? Just work through the pointers above and you should be able to get somewhere with it now. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.1.6.7 on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpDIdJZK6Guh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates and IMAP
On Sunday, August 22, 2010, 7:37:26 PM, TheLimit wrote: And you use both? actually no. I rarely use pop at all any more. Have my IMAP account collect all my POP mail. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates and IMAP
Hi On Friday 20 August 2010 at 11:19:05 PM, in mid:993608511.20100820151...@comcast.net, TheLimit wrote: I went to templates in the AB a while back, and I liked it, so that's what I'm doing. I have a handful of AB templates but mainly use Account level templates (and steer clear of folder templates). The first one I did is fine; the rest refuse to play, period. I get a totally blank mail, and the F4 key doesn't work on replies. I can't figure it out. They used to work fine. What's different between the first one that works and all the others that fail, in settings and in the templates themselves? Is it something simple, like the tick being removed from use a specific template for replies [or new messages] in the AB entry? Or having more than one AB entry for the same contact but only setting up the template in one of them? Or the SHIFT key being down when pressing F4? This is an IMAP account. The POP account seems OK, though I haven't got very far with it. Will that go away too .. ? You mean if you create messages from your POP account the AB templates work but if you create messages to the same contacts from your IMAP account the templates don't work? That sounds weird. What's going on? How do I fix it? For a totally blank email to be created it looks like it is defaulting to a totally empty template set up *somewhere*... Check all address book entries for the address you are trying to set up templates for. For IMAP accounts behaving differently, dunno as I only use POP. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The truth is rarely pure and never simple Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates and IMAP
On Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:30:23 AM, MFPA wrote: For IMAP accounts behaving differently, dunno as I only use POP. can't imagine how anything is different in IMAP as far as templates go. Never noticed it here. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates and IMAP
On 8/22/2010 you wrote: can't imagine how anything is different in IMAP as far as templates go. Never noticed it here. And you use both? These POP accounts seem fine. As I get a completely bizarre time lag sometimes doing things in IMAP, I left this particular problem alone for a couple of days, in case it just needed some 'catch up' time. That didn't help. I'm really totally stumped. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7600 4.2.36.4 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates and IMAP
Hi Batters - OK, I'm baffled again ... I've been building my templates in this new install (yeah, it's taking a while), and it's not going well. I went to templates in the AB a while back, and I liked it, so that's what I'm doing. The first one I did is fine; the rest refuse to play, period. I get a totally blank mail, and the F4 key doesn't work on replies. I can't figure it out. They used to work fine. This is an IMAP account. The POP account seems OK, though I haven't got very far with it. Will that go away too .. ? What's going on? How do I fix it? tia .. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7600 4.2.36.4 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Environement variables and templates
'Ello TBUDL, How do I - or is it possible to - use environment variables in message templates? In Windows, EMAIL is set to TB!'s message base. Normally then you'd use %EMAIL% in scripts and what have you. Can I use this in TB!'s templates? E.g. instead of: %INCLUDE=X:\Messages\Email\messages\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt this: %INCLUDE=%EMAIL%\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #20435. Dew Show In Gore? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Peter, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:31:08 +0200 (your time) you said: S It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way. [...] You might try %% instead. This should prevent TB! from seeing the following as a macro. If it recognizes the EV, I don't know. Tried that out and it doesn't work. Thanks for the idea though. If it is possible at all it would be extremely useful. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 9206. Wei Hnd Go Sower? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
Hi Simon, on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:30:36 +0100GMT (20.10.2009, 18:30 +0200GMT here), you wrote: S ... environment variables in message templates? ... S %INCLUDE=%EMAIL%\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt S It doesn't work so that is what I am asking if there is a way. I don't know if there is a way to use environment variables in templates, but I see why your try doesn't work. In TB!'s templates the percent sign indicates a following macro. You might try %% instead. This should prevent TB! from seeing the following as a macro. If it recognizes the EV, I don't know. -- Cheers Peter Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
Hello all, Tuesday, October 20, 2009, Simon wrote: [...] You might try %% instead. This should prevent TB! from seeing the following as a macro. If it recognizes the EV, I don't know. Tried that out and it doesn't work. Thanks for the idea though. If it is possible at all it would be extremely useful. %EMAIL% is a Windows variable, not TB's internal variable, for MAIL directory TB uses %MAILDIR, so use %INCLUDE=%MAILDIR\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.10.16 (ALPHA4) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.5 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Marek, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:18:23 +0200 (your time) you said: %EMAIL% is a Windows variable, not TB's internal variable, for MAIL directory TB uses %MAILDIR, so use %INCLUDE=%MAILDIR\templates\family\family.tricia.new.message.txt Excellent. That's a lot less bother...even better then! That will save me having to update the paths for every template when I move my mail folder about ;-) -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #33307. O'er Hod New Wigs? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
Hallo Simon, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:30:36 +0100GMT (20-10-2009, 18:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P How do I - or is it possible to - use environment variables in message P templates? Marek answered you about the %MailDir macro and AFAIK TB can't handle environment variables by itself, but the XMP plug-in can help you with that. XMP has the %XMP_Envir that can read evironment variables. XMP can be downloaded from http://www.gaijin.at/tbpxmp.php The help file is German, but should be clear even if you don't 'do' German. Apart from the %MailDir macro TB also supports the %AccountDir and the %ProgramDir macros, apart from the time and Windows version there aren't any system related things that I need in my templates, so that might be enough for you too. -- Groetjes, Roelof Move away from the tagline. You have ten seconds to comply. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.10.12 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp8rwpAlmX3H.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Roelof, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:20:13 +0200 (your time) you said: [...] XMP has the %XMP_Envir that can read evironment variables. XMP can be downloaded from http://www.gaijin.at/tbpxmp.php The help file is German, but should be clear even if you don't 'do' German. [...] Excellent! Thanks, Roelof. That, in fact, will be very handy indeed. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #16158. Res Hoe Dong Iww? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environement variables and templates
'Ello Roelof, On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:20:13 +0200 (your time) you said: [...]TB can't handle environment variables by itself, but the XMP plug-in can help you with that. Now tried and tested and in use, and works great! Thanks very much for the information. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #23855. Hews On Gid Wore? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.10.1 • Extended Macro Plugin 1.2.0.0 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1356 DB 091020-0 (20.10.2009) Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Environment variables and templates
Hi On Tuesday 20 October 2009 at 9:20:13 PM, in mid:1979615757.20091020222...@otten.tv, Roelof Otten wrote: Apart from the %MailDir macro TB also supports the %AccountDir and the %ProgramDir macros And %ACCOUNTATTACHDIR -- Best regards MFPA Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Group templates
Hello I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the advantage of one is over the other yet. I note that the To field automaticaly fills with TBUDL list for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works. -- Carren Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Group templates
Hallo Carren, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:45:29 +1200GMT (26-7-2009, 9:45 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CS I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates CS work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the CS advantage of one is over the other yet. Address book templates are used when you set the recipient before entering text in the body. Individual address book templates take precedence over address book group templates and both take precedence over folder templates. Suppose you filter tbudl messages to a dedicated folder. If you want to use a special template for replies to the list then you can do that via a folder reply template or via an address book reply template. Suppose you want to send a private reply to one of the list messages (Ctrl-F4). When you're using folder templates your message will be formatted like your list messages, with address book templates that won't be so. CS I note that the To field automaticaly fills with TBUDL list CS for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works. That's odd. The mentioning of the list tag means your addressing an address book group and if that's done automatically then you're probably using a self addressing folder template. Those are a bit risky. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 004: Erroneous error - nothing is wrong http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.9.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpNOSnqGiH7r.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Group templates
Hi On Sunday 26 July 2009 at 8:45:29 AM, in mid:17240271.20090726194...@xnet.co.nz, Carren Stuart wrote: I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the advantage of one is over the other yet. A Folder template will be used if that folder has focus when the new message is created, unless you also have an AB template for the (first?) recipient on the To: line (or an AB group template for a group that recipient is assigned to.) Unless you are careful about checking which folder is active when you create a new message this can result in an unintended template being used. Obviously, you can just look at the message you are creating to verify the right details are there. I note that the To field automaticaly fills with TBUDL list for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works. It does (-; -- Best regards, MFPA Always be on the lookout for conspicuousness Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using folder properties in filters and templates
Hello, friends. I have got lots of folders and reorganize them often. Whenever a new penpal (P) occurs, I usually create a folder (PF) for storing the related communication. Since I want the incoming/outgoing messages be stored in PF automatically, I usually create the corresponding pair of filters which move incoming/outgoing messages to PF according to Sender/Recipient. What I am dreaming of is automating the filtering and making it as easy as entering P's address (or two) somewhere in PF's properties (e.g., in PF's memo). If folder memos were searchable via macros, I could create a single pair of filters with condition like Some folder's memo contains 'addr%Sender/%Recipient/addr' and action like Move to the folder %FirstFolderWhoseMemoContains='addr%Sender/%Recipient/addr' or something similar. I do understand that the above is realizable via AB with some clever macros/regexps but I cannot use fixed folder paths in AB, since my folders are permanently reorganized. In addition, I would like to use PF's properties (rather than AB) for specifying additional info on P (such as greetings, etc.) for using in message templates, but I am not aware of macros which can help me. Currently I enter P's info in PF's templates, but this leads to unpleasant duplicating the info needed for New Message and Reply templates. Again, I could store the corresponding info in PF's memo, but it is useless without a %FolderMemo macro. Any ideas? -- Alexander Gutman Using The Bat! v4.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folder templates
Hallo Carren, On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:13:53 +1200GMT (4-7-2009, 4:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CS However it doesn't work. If I reply to a list email (filtered to CS that common folder) - I get a blank message with no quoted message, greeting or anything. You wouldn't be using an address book template for that mailing list, would you? -- Groetjes, Roelof Sometimes, when it's quiet, you can hear the brain cells die. --- SLR http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpF0BfYzJfmM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folder templates
Hello Roelof, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:13:17 AM, you wrote: Roelof Hallo Carren, Roelof On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:13:53 +1200GMT (4-7-2009, 4:13 +0200, where I Roelof live), you wrote: CS However it doesn't work. If I reply to a list email (filtered to CS that common folder) - I get a blank message with no quoted message, greeting or anything. Roelof You wouldn't be using an address book template for that mailing list, Roelof would you? Bingo! Somewhere along the way whilst trying to get this to work I had tried doing it via an address book template - which I couldn't get to work - and then promptly forgot about it. Once I deleted the address book template, the common folder one worked. Which is the recommended/best way to set these up for things like mailing lists? Is it better to use a folder template or an address book template or does it make no difference as long as you only use one? P.S How can I make my sig darker/more readable? I can't find anywhere within template set ups to change the font size/colour. -- Best regards, Carrenmailto:kiwionab...@xnet.co.nz Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folder templates
Hello all,
Saturday, July 4, 2009, Carren Stuart wrote:
P.S How can I make my sig darker/more readable? I can't find anywhere
within template set ups to change the font size/colour.
use Options | Preferences | Viewer{Editor | Profile layout
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Re: Common folder templates
Hallo Carren, On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:49:27 +1200GMT (4-7-2009, 22:49 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CS Which is the recommended/best way to set these up for things like CS mailing lists? Is it better to use a folder template or an address CS book template or does it make no difference as long as you only use one? My personal preference is address book templates, that's how I configured my mailing lists. I placed my mailing lists in AB groups and configured AB group templates, that way it's easy to use the same template for 'related' lists. -- Groetjes, Roelof this copy of me has been unregistered for more than 42 years. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp01JEWjwqzt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common folder templates
Hi Since spending several years away from TB! I seem to have forgotten everything I ever knew about creating templates. I have a common folder set up for a mailing list and have the following reply template set up: Hello %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: %Quotes %Cursor -- Best regards, %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr However it doesn't work. If I reply to a list email (filtered to that common folder) - I get a blank message with no quoted message, greeting or anything. What am I doing wrong? -- Best regards, %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to modify the inbox template and subfolders templates
Hallo Stephane, On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:09:26 +0200GMT (1-7-2009, 22:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SB I would like to modify the inbox reply template, but it does not SB work : when i get the properties of this folder i do not have any SB option for templates... That's because the Inbox uses the default account templates. SB But sometimes, i receive messages directly in my inbox (like a SB private reply,... messages addressed directly to me and not via a SB list). I would prefer for those messages to reply with a SB different email address, and thus i would like to modify the default template... Two options: 1 Sort all messages not via a list to an alternate folder and edit the folder template for that folder. 2 Add all mailing list addresses to one address book group and use address book group templates for the mailing lists and use the account templates for other messages. SB On the same subject : is it possible to inherit a template from a parent folder ? No -- Groetjes, Roelof As I feared, you have no sense of humor. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpuLtSUNOP0j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to modify the inbox template and subfolders templates
Hi, I would like to modify the inbox reply template, but it does not work : when i get the properties of this folder i do not have any option for templates... for other folders i have no problem... I explain the case in detail : i have an account for mailing lists, i receive and send messages with the address m...@frn.be , for every mailing list i've subscribed i have a sorting rule and a specific folder. But sometimes, i receive messages directly in my inbox (like a private reply,... messages addressed directly to me and not via a list). I would prefer for those messages to reply with a different email address, and thus i would like to modify the default template... I know that i could modify the default template then modify individualy every ML folder template, but not very practical with 30+ ML... On the same subject : is it possible to inherit a template from a parent folder ? Example : i have a folder Ritlabs containing two subfolders tbudl and tbbeta, is it possible to modify the folder template at the Ritlabs level and apply automaticaly this modification to the two children folders ? -- Regards, Stephane Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting templates
Hallo Tom, On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:22:31 +1000GMT (17-6-2009, 0:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T I am hoping that there is some inbuilt export function just T for templates that has eluded me so far. No. -- Groetjes, Roelof Uh, yeah...I MEANT to do that! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpiIOSUlN0tO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exporting templates
Hello Everyone, I love using my templates and do miss them when I work on a different pc without TB. Is there any way to export them in csv/txt or some other format that a text reader can understand. I am not concerned that the macro function will not be available but even using a cut/paste procedure from a usb stick would be preferable to creating all those templates from scratch or from memory. I could go through the most useful ones manually and copy them to a file but I am hoping that there is some inbuilt export function just for templates that has eluded me so far. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TO-macro and quick templates
Hello MFPA, Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:48:22 PM, MFPA wrote: Here's my template: = %CURSOR tags: some tags i want them all to share Canon EOS 1000d %TO=foo12...@photos.flickr.com = Would putting the %to= line before the %cursor line make any difference? Thanks for the suggestion. Yes it does make a difference. It creates a blank line because of the line break after the '...flickr.com\n' -- there's a \n I understand that you have to put these value assignments at the bottom because of the line breaks. Or so I think. Regards, Julien -- Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TO-macro and quick templates
Hello MFPA, Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:48:22 PM, MFPA wrote: Here's my template: = %CURSOR tags: some tags i want them all to share Canon EOS 1000d %TO=foo12...@photos.flickr.com = Would putting the %to= line before the %cursor line make any difference? Thanks for the suggestion. Yes it does make a difference. It creates a blank line because of the line break after the '...flickr.com\n' -- there's a \n I understand that you have to put these value assignments at the bottom because of the line breaks. Or so I think. You can end them with %- to stop the extra lines i.e. %cursor=subject%- -- Rick Never deprive someone of hope; it might be all they have. - H. Jackson Brown Jr. v4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TO-macro and quick templates
Hi On Monday 1 June 2009 at 9:51:23 PM, in mid:72529584.20090601225...@web.de, simbabque wrote: ... but I find it very annoying that TB! sets up the new message window with the focus on the To: text box. I'd like it to be in the subject line or the text (where the %CURSOR is). Here's my template: = %CURSOR tags: some tags i want them all to share Canon EOS 1000d %TO=foo12...@photos.flickr.com = Would putting the %to= line before the %cursor line make any difference? -- Best regards, MFPA He's an environmentalist - his arguments are 100% recycled Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TO-macro and quick templates
Hello Rick, Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:59:56 PM, Rick wrote: My very simple template is working fine, but I find it very annoying that TB! sets up the new message window with the focus on the To: text box. I'd like it to be in the subject line or the text (where the %CURSOR is). I don't want that extra tab/click. Is there a way to change this? Try %CURSOR=Body That works like a charm! Subject instead of Body is also fine. Thanks a lot! You wouldn't happen to know how to turn the CC: and BCC: input lines off in the template but preserve them in other new messages, would you? Regards, simbabque -- Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TO-macro and quick templates
Hello Tbudl, I'm setting up a simple quick template to upload photos via email to my Flickr account from my mobile computer. That way I can prepare all the photos from let's say a day on vacation, put them in the outbox and mail them when wifi or such is available. My very simple template is working fine, but I find it very annoying that TB! sets up the new message window with the focus on the To: text box. I'd like it to be in the subject line or the text (where the %CURSOR is). Here's my template: = %CURSOR tags: some tags i want them all to share Canon EOS 1000d %TO=foo12...@photos.flickr.com = As I said, it's really quite easy, nothing special happening. Still, starting in the to-field is very annoying. I don't want that extra tab/click. Is there a way to change this? Thanks a lot, simbabque -- Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TO-macro and quick templates
Hello Tbudl, I'm setting up a simple quick template to upload photos via email to my Flickr account from my mobile computer. That way I can prepare all the photos from let's say a day on vacation, put them in the outbox and mail them when wifi or such is available. My very simple template is working fine, but I find it very annoying that TB! sets up the new message window with the focus on the To: text box. I'd like it to be in the subject line or the text (where the %CURSOR is). Here's my template: = %CURSOR tags: some tags i want them all to share Canon EOS 1000d %TO=foo12...@photos.flickr.com = As I said, it's really quite easy, nothing special happening. Still, starting in the to-field is very annoying. I don't want that extra tab/click. Is there a way to change this? Thanks a lot, simbabque Try %CURSOR=Body -- Rick It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them. - P. G. Wodehouse v4.1.11.29 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
quick templates
Hi, I had to install Windows XP new, installed then TheBat and restored all using a backup. But it seems that quick templates are not being backed up! I'm now missing my quick templates! From one I have had a copy in Word, but it doesn't work. What is wrong in this template and what have I to change? IF:%ABTOGENDER=2:Dear Mrs. %- %ABTOLastNAME:%IF:'%ABTOGENDER'='1':'Dear Mr. %ABTOLastNAME':'Dear %- Ladies and Gentlemen', I thought that this template worked before! -- Best regards, Roland I use TheBat! v4.1.11.29 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3! Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quick templates
Hallo Roland, On Mon, 18 May 2009 18:46:08 +0200GMT (18-5-2009, 18:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RB I'm now missing my quick templates! From one I have had a copy in RB Word, but it doesn't work. What is wrong in this template and what have I to change? There's supposed to be a % before IF. -- Groetjes, Roelof WIN ERROR #012: Computer doesn't really multitask. (I)gnore (O)rder Amiga.. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.11.29 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpTa92ByubHD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations
[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2009-04-18 · 11:52 h (CET)] I do not understand You confusion, do not check buttons You do not know, its simple. BRUHARHAR! You made my day! :-D Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[the%20bat%21]%20 Using The Bat! 4.1.11.15 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Sometimes smart alecks drive me nuts!« – Kira Skumme Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations
I have huge problems with templates because there are many confusing options and difficult to find documentation. So, I'm just going to list my several questions on templates that have been bugging me: There's a Common Templates section in the quick templates dialog. But every template also has a checkbox for share with other accounts. This is confusing. What's the difference? How does each work? In the same dialog, for each template, there are check boxes for Use For New Messages, Reply Messages, and Forward messages. However, in each of your Account properties, you have to set up templates for all these categories anyway. Again, what's the difference, and how is each one meant to be used? Furthermore, why do i even have to check those options?! Whenever I want to use a quick template inside another template, I can always do so with the QINCLUDE function, right? I don't have to check those boxes at all. Very, very confusing. Is there somewhere that lists all the template functions in some kind of organized fashion? I'm talking all the functions and how to use them? For example, the ISSIGNATURE command makes no sense to me whatsoever. Thanks for all the advice. I love the Bat, but there seriously needs to be a more convenient place to find answers to these questions besides mailing lists newsgroups. A good help file would be ideal. but I understand if that's not the developer's priority. At least a normal web forum or something. Newsgroups and mailing lists are old-school. I still haven't set up my newsreader to be able to reply to messages...all I can do is create a new message right now. OK, I'm done! -- AC Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations
Hello all, Saturday, April 18, 2009, AC wrote: I have huge problems with templates because there are many confusing options and difficult to find documentation. So, I'm just going to list my several questions on templates that have been bugging me: what huge problems are You speaking about? There's a Common Templates section in the quick templates dialog. But every template also has a checkbox for share with other accounts. This is confusing. What's the difference? How does each work? Common templates section in QT editor is available allways for viewing and editing, even You are logged to program as administrator or user. When You log into program via account with user rights, You will see specific QTs and Common templates, but if there are some shared templates from other accounts, You can use them from main toolbar, where is a small arrow for displaying and using them. So they can be used, but not edited. In the same dialog, for each template, there are check boxes for Use For New Messages, Reply Messages, and Forward messages. However, in each of your Account properties, you have to set up templates for all these categories anyway. Again, what's the difference, and how is each one meant to be used? as in previous answer, You can add a flag to a quick template about its purpose, so if You check New messages and Mass Mailing, You will see it in New message dropdown and in Address Book for sending Mass mailing, if You check Reply messages, You will see it in Reply button dropdown. Furthermore, why do i even have to check those options?! Whenever I want to use a quick template inside another template, I can always do so with the QINCLUDE function, right? I don't have to check those boxes at all. Very, very confusing. I do not understand You confusion, do not check buttons You do not know, its simple. Is there somewhere that lists all the template functions in some kind of organized fashion? I'm talking all the functions and how to use them? For example, the ISSIGNATURE command makes no sense to me whatsoever. look to help, macros like ISSIGNATURE are explained there. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.11.15 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.0.1 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Many, many confusing options for templates with no explanations
On Saturday, April 18, 2009, at 4:20:47 AM, AC wrote: In the same dialog, for each template, there are check boxes for Use For New Messages, Reply Messages, and Forward messages. However, in each of your Account properties, you have to set up templates for all these categories anyway. Again, what's the difference, and how is each one meant to be used? Furthermore, why do i even have to check those options? I start from the top down. That is, I first set up the templates for my accounts (I only use three accounts, and one of those is for archiving old messages so it's never used for sending or receiving, hence does not need any templates). Then, if I want the same template in both accounts, I set it up as a Common Template and in its Options pane, check off both accounts under Use In. This lets me omit that template from both the accounts. The next level down is at the Group stage. I have several groups of users that get specialized templates, stored under the Group. Finally, there are individual templates at the Address Book level, and apply only to the specific user. When a template is to be used, the program looks first at the Address Book level for one specific to the recipient. If there's not one, it looks at the groups to which that recipient belongs. If there's still not one, it looks in the Common Templates if the account is checked, and finally at the Account properties. The first time it finda a template, it's the one used. The only ones that have to be there are those in the Account properties. All the rest are optional, letting you select special treatment for individual users, for user groups, or everyone. In my case, most of the template properties provided are left blank. Only a few Address Book templates are used, a couple of groups get special treatment, and most of my Quick Templates are specific to one account or the other although in all of them I have Use In checked for both because I created most of them before learning about the Common Templates. I don't use the QTINCLUDE macro a lot, but it's nice to have available. I hope this helps a bit; I agree that the documentation leaves much to be desired, mostly because so much of what does exist is obsolete and no longer valid. There is a conventional online forum, but my experience has been that the mailing lists are so much more helpful that I've not logged into that forum for many weeks now and when I do, I don't find much of interest. One of the reasons for lack of documentation is the lack of a common language; the user base here is the most internationalized of all the programs I use. I understand that if I were able to read Russian I could find more information on line (since that's the native language of the developers). This is a problem for many other programs as well; that's why the mailing lists continue to be the most reliable data sources. -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Group Mailing wrong Templates
Hello Jens, On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:27:29 +0100 GMT (21/12/2008, 19:27 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 at 05:37, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Let me see if I understand you correctly: You have a %TO= macro in a folder template JF Yes and a %TO= macro in the AB template. JF No JF JF The Situation is quite different, maybe please simply follow my steps: JF - Create an %TO=em...@adress.com in any Folder Template for New JF Message JF - in the Main Screen, place the Cursor on this Folder, so it is marked JF - open the Adressbook JF - select a Group or a Person JF - right click on it and select New Message (CTRL-Enter) JF - you now have the %TO of the Folder and the Adress from the Adressbook JF in you To: (Destination) Field. JF There is no context between the Folder, selected in Main Screen and the JF New Message created from the Adressbook - i would say. Well, there is. Believe me, TB! knows which folder is active when you create a new message. Besides, otherwise Folder templates wouldn't work at all. But this is a matter for TBUDL rather than TBBETA, as it is not a beta issue. XP and f'up to TBUDL. -- Cheers, Thomas. Er rannte ohne Beute davon, wurde aber von der Ueberwachungskamera noch festgehalten. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Group Mailing wrong Templates
Hi On Sunday 21 December 2008 at 3:20:02 PM, in mid:87284476.20081221222...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: But this is a matter for TBUDL rather than TBBETA, as it is not a beta issue. XP and f'up to TBUDL. Difficult to follow this thread, since the previous messages were not posted to TBUDL. The previous poster wrote:- JF JF maybe please JF simply follow my steps: - Create an JF %TO=em...@adress.com in any Folder Template for JF New Message - in the Main Screen, place the Cursor JF on this Folder, so it is marked - open the JF Adressbook - select a Group or a Person - right JF click on it and select New Message (CTRL-Enter) - JF you now have the %TO of the Folder and the Adress JF from the Adressbook in you To: (Destination) JF Field. I can confirm that I also get a To: line containing both the recipient from the address book entry I selected to create the new message and the recipient inserted by the %TO macro in the folder template (when there is no AB template defined for the AB entry). This is not the behaviour suggested by the help file entry for the %To macro:- Help File TO=address(es) Changes the TO header to the value given Help File by the parameter. If left empty it will remove all Help File addresses already in the header. If left empty the %to macro does what the help file says - it clears the To header -- Best regards, MFPA Confusion is always the most honest response Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Group Mailing wrong Templates
Hallo MFPA, On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:06:40 +GMT (21-12-2008, 20:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M This is not the behaviour suggested by the help file entry for the %To M macro:- You're right, there's a bug in the help file (probably more) The %To= macro adds addresses to the To: header, it doesn't change the To: header into the given value. As the %To= macro has always behaved like this, before and after the current help file, I think it's an honest mistake in the help file. -- Groetjes, Roelof May we kiss those we please, and please those we kiss. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpsTvBUoTTxc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using individual templates
I have asked this question before, but have not received any helpful responses. Apologies in advance for asking again in the hope of solving this problem that vexes me considerably. When I reply to an e-mail note from someone whose e-mail address is in my Address Book, I expect that the reply template for that person will be used, if such a termplate exists. However, that is usually not the case; the account-level reply template is used instead. Why is this the case, and how can I prevent this.? Previous responses suggested that I may have more than a single Address Book entry for some persons, and this may be the cause of the confusion. My observations over time and repeated searches of my Address Book have demonstrated to my satisfaction that duplicate entries do not exist. One of the main reasons that I purchased The Bat is the richness of the template facility. If it is not working properly, I might just as well switch to Outlook that is included in Microsoft Office at no addition cost for purchase and for upgrades. Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using individual templates
Hello Leonard, Thursday, August 7, 2008, 3:53:27 PM, you wrote: LB Previous responses suggested that I may have more than a single LB Address Book entry for some persons, and this may be the cause of the LB confusion. My observations over time and repeated searches of my LB Address Book have demonstrated to my satisfaction that duplicate LB entries do not exist. How did you perform your repeated searches? Did you try the following: Open the AB. Click on Personal AB. File - Export To - Address List (Plain Text) Open that file with an editor. Find (name of the person in question)? Still no duplicate entries? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.26.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using individual templates
Hallo Leonard, On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:53:27 -0400GMT (7-8-2008, 15:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LB When I reply to an e-mail note from someone whose e-mail address is in LB my Address Book, I expect that the reply template for that person will LB be used, if such a termplate exists. However, that is usually not the LB case; the account-level reply template is used instead. Why is this LB the case, and how can I prevent this.? The most common reason for address book templates that aren't used are duplicate address book entries for the same address. That doesn't mean that both entries need to have that address set as primary address. Another reason that AB templates aren't triggered can be corruption of your address book. Create a backup with TB of your AB and restore that on top of your old one. AB templates won't be used when you edit the message body before you set the recipient. AB will only be used when they are set for the first address og the to gheader -- Groetjes, Roelof Unbelief in one thing springs = blind belief in another. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.26.5 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5lO5JusbSf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
