Re: [Tex-music] Small changecontext/centerbar problem

[Bob Tennent]

I've uploaded MusiXTeX version 1.38 that corrects this bug.  Thanks for the
report Wilfried.

Bob T.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:40 AM Wilfried Lingenberg <
w.lingenb...@t-online.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I just noticed that \changecontext, while producing a barline, does not
> seem to reset the starting value for the \centerbar calculation. Minimal
> (well, small) example below, output attached.
>
> Nothing urgent since it is very easy to work around (just put the rest
> manually to the centre of the bar).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Wilfried
>
>
>
> \input musixtex
> \setstaffs1=2
> \setclefs1{}
> \startmuflex
> \startpiece
> \nobarnumbers
> \hardspace{10pt}%
> \Notes \qu c\qu d\qu e\qu f|\en
> \def\atnextbar{\znotes|\centerbar\cpause\en}%
> \bar
> \Notes \qu g\qu f\qu e\qu d|\en
> \def\atnextbar{\znotes|\centerbar\cpause\en}%
> \bar
> \Notes \qu c\qu d\qu e\sh f\qu f|\en
> \def\atnextbar{\znotes|\centerbar\cpause\en}%
> \setdoublebar
> \generalsignature1\changecontext
> \Notes \qu g\qu h\en
> \NOtes \hl i\en
> \def\atnextbar{\znotes|\centerbar\cpause\en}%
> \Endpiece
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[Tex-music] TeXLive 2024

[Bob Tennent]

TeXLive 2024 <https://www.tug.org/texlive/> has been officially released.
The 2024 release provides musixtex (1.37) and pmx (3.00). Installing the
latest release is recommended because older releases no longer get updates.

Compiled binaries are provided for many Unix-like platforms, including
Linux and MacOSX, and for Windows (but Windows users may find MiKTeX
<https://miktex.org> to be more convenient). Check out installation
instructions at WIMA.

If you have enough disk space, TeXLive 2024 can be installed in parallel
with one or more older versions, but most users should first uninstall an
existing active TeXLive as follows:

tlmgr remove -all

This will not remove “local” or “personal” additions, provided you have not
put them into the texmf-dist tree.


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Re: [Tex-music] [ADMIN] beware of scammers!

[Bob Tennent]

Thanks for noticing this.  It was indeed a fake message, piggy-packed over
a real message I sent to tex-music months ago.

Bob T.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 12:46 PM maurizio .mau. codogno 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I just noticed that a fake message, allegedly from BobTennent but actually
> from a throwaway address, was sent to the list. I received it as list
> owner, but did not approve it, so I don't know how it could be happened. DO
> NOT OPEN the link in that message.
>
> Christian, who can I contact at tug.org to understand what happened?
>
> ciao, .mau.
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Re: [Tex-music] demande aide musixtex sous linux fedora

[Bob Tennent]

Gilles:  My French is sufficient to understand your post (but not to
reply).  I hope you can follow my reply.

If I understand you are trying to compile a new piece using tex packages
under Fedora Linux.  I suggest
installing a minimal TeXLive system, following the instructions at

https://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html#SECTION00022000

If you still encounter problems, send us a minimal example that fails.

Bob Tennent

On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 8:36 AM Gilles Abramovici via TeX-Music <
tex-music@tug.org> wrote:

> Bonjour,
>
> Ayant connu Daniel Taupin, qui me parlait de son travail d'un package
> musical et était un de mes collègues, j'ai réussi voici quelques années
> à écrire un morceau sous musixtex.
>
> Plus précisément, j'ai utilisé l'ancienne version, mon fichier commence par
>
> \input musixtex
>   \input musixcpt
>   \input musixsty
>
> et je fais les trois compilations : etex, puis musixflx puis etex. J'ai
> fait ce choix par défaut, j'aurais préféré la version \begin{music} du
> package musixtex mais ça n'avait pas marché.
>
> Or, voulant écrire un nouveau morceau, j'ai découvert que la compilation
> ne fonctionne plus, je n'obtiens plus de notes sur les partitions. J'ai
> essayé de comprendre ce que des mises à jour ont pu modifier mais je
> suis totalement perdu, quoiqu'assez calé en LaTeX (avec quelques
> connaissances en TeX).
>
> Est-ce que vous pourriez me fournir de l'aide ? je ne sais même pas
> comment procéder pour chercher le problème. Merci de votre réponse (je
> sais que le message est envoyé à un groupe et j'espère que vous avez des
> protocoles pour me répondre).
>
> Avec mes salutations cordiales,
>
> Gilles Abramovici
>
> LPS bât 510 Orsay CNRS et Université Paris Saclay
>
> PS : ce n'est pas un problème de fichier, même les archives (de Daniel
> par exemple) que j'ai récupéré ne fonctionnent plus.
>
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[Tex-music] modern tablature

[Bob Tennent]

Modern instrumentalists of string instruments (guitar, banjo, mandolin,
etc.) use a hybrid form of tablature in which notes have (downward) stems
and beams attached.  I believe this kind of tablature was first introduced
by Pete Seeger in his banjo instruction book first published in 1948.

I've developed a package that combines traditional Gelten tablature
notation already in MusiXTeX with the stems and beams of conventional music
notation.

The package is available at WIMA.

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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

Interesting.  This suggests that the problem isn't the cutoctline code
alone that is responsible but something it does that affects subsequent
end-of-system code (which PMX somehow avoids).  Sigh.

On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 4:13 PM  wrote:

> PMX doesn’t have any built in octaviation lines. But when I blindly stick
> in what seems to be the appropriate in-line TeX, somewhat to my surprise it
> comes out as desired (see attachment), going cleanly across the system
> break. I haven’t looked into the TeX file at all, but here’s the PMX input
> file:
>
> ==
> 3 2 3 4 3 4 0 1
> 1 2 20 0
>
>
> ttt
> ./
> AS0-
> f24 za zc zd g-4 zb zd | b zd b zd g- zb | a2 zc ,g zb | b4 zd b zd g- zb
> /
> \Ioctfinup 1{12}\
> a45x3n d- c a+x3n d- c g+x3n d b | b+8 d- b+ d- g d | a+ d- a+ d- g d |
>   b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd | rbd /
> K+0+3
> Rd
> a44 zc d- g zb | d d- b+ | d d- a+ /
> a85 d- a+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd /
> Rl
> Cb
> dd23 zd- | rp Rr /
> a85 a- d a f+ a- | a+ f d a f \Toctfin1\ d / rb2d | rbd /
> ===
>
> --Don
>
>
>
> From: Bob Tennent 
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 9:45 AM
> To: Don Simons 
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range
>
> Don:  Can you add octaviation to match Jean-Pierre's example?
>
> Bob
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 2:12 PM <mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Jean-Pierre--
>
> The attached image roughly reproduces your most recent 1-instrument image,
> but with an added instrument above with only blank rests. It came from this
> file:
>
> 
> 3 2 3 4 3 4 0 1
> 1 2 20 0
>
>
> ttt
> ./
> AS0-
> f24 za zc zd g-4 zb zd | b zd b zd g- zb | a2 zc ,g zb | b4 zd b zd g- zb /
> a45x3 d- c a+x3 d- c g+x3 d b | b+8 d- b+ d- g d | a+ d- a+ d- g d |
>   b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd | rbd /
> K+0+3
> Rd
> a44 zc d- g zb | d d- b+ | d d- a+ /
> a85 d- a+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd /
> Rl
> Cb
> dd23 zd- | rp Rr /
> a85 a- d a f+ a- | a+ f d a f d /
> rb2d | rbd /
> =
>
> However, I'm still not clear on exactly what you were trying to create
> when you generated the error. The two different versions of your tex file
> that do work produce two different images. I wanted to create a PMX file
> that tries to do EXACTLY what you were trying to do when you generated the
> error.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music
> > mailto:roadrunner@tug.org>
> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 10:30 AM
> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive <mailto:tex-music@tug.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> >
> > > Jean-Pierre, could you post a .tex file that works and shows exactly
> > > what you want? I'm trying to reproduce whatever your problem is with
> > > a PMX-generated file, and so far cannot recreate the problem. The
> > > following PMX file runs fine:
> >
> > If you change \generalsignature3\Changecontext into \bar in my example
> > it works.
> >
> > If you say \instrumentnumbers1 instead of 2 it works too. See my pdf.
> >
> > Please post the pdf output of your PMX.
> >
> > --
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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

Jean-Pierre:  a better workaround is to add \toctfin before the
\Changecontext and \ioctfinup q immediately after, thus avoiding
the cutoctline code in musixtex.tex that seems to be problematical.

Bob

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:56 AM Jean-Pierre Coulon  wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, Bob Tennent wrote:
>
> > The following is a workaround:
> >
> > \setdoublebar%
> > \xbar%
> > \generalsignature3%
> > \changesignature%
>
> This is a semi-workaround because with xbar you prenvent a linebreak where
> I have one :-)
>
> --
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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

Thanks Jean-Pierre.

I think I've found the location of the bug:

% cutoctline
  \o@loop
  \ifdim\o@x<\maxdimen \let\T@ii\n@ii \C@TO \o@x\z@ \fi
  \repeat

in the definition of \z@suspend.  Confirm by commenting out those lines (or
by removing the octaviation of the example code).

 But I don't know how to fix the code.  Can a texpert help?

Bob

On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 8:43 AM Jean-Pierre Coulon  wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bob Tennent wrote:
>
> > Jean-Pierre:  Can you provide an example involving \leftrepeat or
> > \rightrepeat (so that a change of context doesn't muddy the water)?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > I have had similar cases with \leftrepeat or \rightrepeat.
> >>
> >
>
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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

Jean-Pierre:  Can you provide an example involving \leftrepeat or
\rightrepeat (so that a change of context doesn't muddy the water)?

Bob

I have had similar cases with \leftrepeat or \rightrepeat.
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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

xchangecontext isn't in musixtex.tex; it's defined in pmx.tex.  I believe
the crucial difference is how end-of-system is handled.

Bob

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:32 PM  wrote:

> Not that I remember anything about the detail, but looking at the TeX that
> PMX generates, it appears to use \xchangecontext rather than \Changecontext
> to activate the key change. Furthermore, searching thru the PMX source
> code, it doesn’t ever use \Changecontext. However, I still don’t know
> exactly what image Jean-Pierre was trying to create when he first generated
> the error, since he hasn’t yet provided such an image.
>
>
>
> --Don
>
>
>
> *From:* TeX-Music  *On
> Behalf Of *Bob Tennent
> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2023 2:49 PM
> *To:* Werner Icking Music Archive 
> *Subject:* Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range
>
>
>
> This suggests that PMX doesn't invoke the buggy code in musixtex.tex.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 2:12 PM  wrote:
>
> Jean-Pierre--
>
> The attached image roughly reproduces your most recent 1-instrument image,
> but with an added instrument above with only blank rests. It came from this
> file:
>
> 
> 3 2 3 4 3 4 0 1
> 1 2 20 0
>
>
> ttt
> ./
> AS0-
> f24 za zc zd g-4 zb zd | b zd b zd g- zb | a2 zc ,g zb | b4 zd b zd g- zb /
> a45x3 d- c a+x3 d- c g+x3 d b | b+8 d- b+ d- g d | a+ d- a+ d- g d |
>   b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd | rbd /
> K+0+3
> Rd
> a44 zc d- g zb | d d- b+ | d d- a+ /
> a85 d- a+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd /
> Rl
> Cb
> dd23 zd- | rp Rr /
> a85 a- d a f+ a- | a+ f d a f d /
> rb2d | rbd /
> =
>
> However, I'm still not clear on exactly what you were trying to create when
> you generated the error. The two different versions of your tex file that
> do
> work produce two different images. I wanted to create a PMX file that tries
> to do EXACTLY what you were trying to do when you generated the error.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 10:30 AM
> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> >
> > > Jean-Pierre, could you post a .tex file that works and shows exactly
> > > what you want? I'm trying to reproduce whatever your problem is with a
> > > PMX-generated file, and so far cannot recreate the problem. The
> > > following PMX file runs fine:
> >
> > If you change \generalsignature3\Changecontext into \bar in my example it
> > works.
> >
> > If you say \instrumentnumbers1 instead of 2 it works too. See my pdf.
> >
> > Please post the pdf output of your PMX.
> >
> > --
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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

This suggests that PMX doesn't invoke the buggy code in musixtex.tex.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 2:12 PM  wrote:

> Jean-Pierre--
>
> The attached image roughly reproduces your most recent 1-instrument image,
> but with an added instrument above with only blank rests. It came from this
> file:
>
> 
> 3 2 3 4 3 4 0 1
> 1 2 20 0
>
>
> ttt
> ./
> AS0-
> f24 za zc zd g-4 zb zd | b zd b zd g- zb | a2 zc ,g zb | b4 zd b zd g- zb /
> a45x3 d- c a+x3 d- c g+x3 d b | b+8 d- b+ d- g d | a+ d- a+ d- g d |
>   b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd | rbd /
> K+0+3
> Rd
> a44 zc d- g zb | d d- b+ | d d- a+ /
> a85 d- a+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d | b+ d- b+ d- g d /
> rbd2 | rbd | rbd /
> Rl
> Cb
> dd23 zd- | rp Rr /
> a85 a- d a f+ a- | a+ f d a f d /
> rb2d | rbd /
> =
>
> However, I'm still not clear on exactly what you were trying to create when
> you generated the error. The two different versions of your tex file that
> do
> work produce two different images. I wanted to create a PMX file that tries
> to do EXACTLY what you were trying to do when you generated the error.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 10:30 AM
> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> >
> > > Jean-Pierre, could you post a .tex file that works and shows exactly
> > > what you want? I'm trying to reproduce whatever your problem is with a
> > > PMX-generated file, and so far cannot recreate the problem. The
> > > following PMX file runs fine:
> >
> > If you change \generalsignature3\Changecontext into \bar in my example it
> > works.
> >
> > If you say \instrumentnumbers1 instead of 2 it works too. See my pdf.
> >
> > Please post the pdf output of your PMX.
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Pierre Coulon
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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

And it may help a debugger to know that replacing \xbar by \bar or \zbar or
\zzbar all fail.  Good luck!

Bob

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:56 AM Jean-Pierre Coulon  wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, Bob Tennent wrote:
>
> > The following is a workaround:
> >
> > \setdoublebar%
> > \xbar%
> > \generalsignature3%
> > \changesignature%
>
> This is a semi-workaround because with xbar you prenvent a linebreak where
> I have one :-)
>
> --
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Re: [Tex-music] check@staff ... specified range

[Bob Tennent]

The following is a workaround:

\setdoublebar%
\xbar%
\generalsignature3%
\changesignature%

This might help someone find the bug which seems to be deep inside
musixtex.tex and beyond my patience to track down.  If you find it, let me
know and I'll make the correction.

Bob

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:21 AM Jean-Pierre Coulon  wrote:

> With the attached file I obtain:
>
> bar 119 bar 120 bar 121 bar 122
> ! Staff number (2) out of specified range (1)!.
> \check@staff ... specified range (\the \st@ffs )!}
>
> The problem disappears if change \generalsignature3\Changecontext into
> \bar at line 65 or if I add/remove bars so this changecontext does not
> come at a line break.
>
> It seems I am attempting to write into a 2nd staff on instrument No.2 e.g
> \notes\blabla|\blabla&\blabla|blabla\en
>
> I have had similar cases with \leftrepeat or \rightrepeat.
>
> Any idea?
>
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Re: [Tex-music] working example to handle half flat/sharp accidentals

[Bob Tennent]

Hi Oualid.  "Unable to make it work" doesn't help us diagnose the problem.
Here is a working example, adapted from the source for musixdoc.pdf:

\input musixtex
\input musixmkm
\startpiece\addspace\afterruleskip
\Notes\shtanini i\en
\Notes\shbuyukmucenneb i\en
\Notes\shkucuk i\en
\Notes\shbakiye i\en
\Notes\shkoma i\en
\Notes\flkoma i\en
\Notes\flbakiye i\en
\Notes\flkucuk i\en
\Notes\flbuyukmucenneb i\en
\Notes\fltanini i\en
\Endpiece
\end

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 9:46 AM Oualid Missaoui 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I hope this finds you well.
> I was wondering if there is a working example on how to write half
> flat/sharp accidentals in musixtex. The new version's documentation
> states that it is being handled via musixmkm but I am unable to make
> it work ...
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
> Best
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Re: [Tex-music] Clef question

[Bob Tennent]

\drumclef  from musixper.tex

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 2:21 PM  wrote:

> Is there a straightforward way in MusiXTeX to get a “neutral” or
> “percussion” clef (two parallel vertical lines between the 2nd and 4th
> staff lines)?
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Re: [Tex-music] Overlapping notes in PMX

[Bob Tennent]

you should install ghostscript if you want to use postscript slurs.

bob t.

On Mon., Apr. 3, 2023, 12:43 a.m. Yusaira Khan, 
wrote:

> Thanks Everyone.
> Not using musixflx was my problem. musixtex script failed because of
> ghostscript for .ps i think.
> Thank you!
> Yusiara
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 12:30 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:
>
>> there should be a script musixtex that automatically calls pmxab followed
>> by the three passes needed for musixtex itself. just try musixtex barsant.
>>
>> bob t.
>>
>> On Sun., Apr. 2, 2023, 3:44 p.m. Bodo Meißner,  wrote:
>>
>>> MusiXTeX uses a 3-pass system to produce the result. You have to run
>>> ...tex, musixflx and again ...tex.
>>> See e.g. https://ctan.org/pkg/musixtex
>>> There might be wrapper scripts to automate this process.
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Re: [Tex-music] Overlapping notes in PMX

[Bob Tennent]

there should be a script musixtex that automatically calls pmxab followed
by the three passes needed for musixtex itself. just try musixtex barsant.

bob t.

On Sun., Apr. 2, 2023, 3:44 p.m. Bodo Meißner,  wrote:

> MusiXTeX uses a 3-pass system to produce the result. You have to run
> ...tex, musixflx and again ...tex.
> See e.g. https://ctan.org/pkg/musixtex
> There might be wrapper scripts to automate this process.
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[Tex-music] TeXLive 2023

[Bob Tennent]

TeXLive 2023 has been officially released:

https://www.tug.org/texlive/

The 2023 release provides musixtex (1.36) and pmx (3.00). Installing the
latest release is recommended because older releases no longer get updates.
Compiled binaries are provided for many Unix-like platforms, including
Linux and MacOSX, and for Windows (but Windows users may find MiKTeX to be
more convenient). Check out installation instructions here:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html#texlive

If you have enough disk space, TeXLive 2023 can be installed in parallel
with one or more older versions, but most users should first uninstall an
existing active TeXLive as follows:

tlmgr remove -all

This will not remove “local” or “personal” additions, provided you have not
put them into the texmf-dist tree.

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[Tex-music] recorder-fingering

[Bob Tennent]

Alan Munn has submitted the recorder-fingering package.

The recorder-fingering package provides support for generating fingering
diagrams for baroque fingering recorders. Standard fingerings are provided
for recorders in both C and F, along with methods
to create and display alternate fingerings for trills, etc.

The package is available from CTAN and in TeXLive.

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[Tex-music] PMX 3.00

[Bob Tennent]

Don Simons has released PMX version 3.00:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx300.zip

This version provides an option to remove the limit of 9 on forced
beams. A side benefit of selecting the option is that all
beams are vectorized and 2-digit figured bass figures are allowed.

An easy-to-install package with a zipped texmf tree, Windows
executables and a tar.gz file which can be processed on any Unix-like
system with basic GNU tools and a C compiler is available at

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx-3.00.zip

and at CTAN.org.  It will soon be available in MikTeX and in TeXLive2023.
Consult pmx-install.pdf for installation instructions.

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[Tex-music] musixtex version 1.36

[Bob Tennent]

I've released version 1.36 of MusiXTeX. This supports accidentals for
Turkish classical music (Makam), new thin accidentals, and thicker ledger
lines and Postscript hairpins. It is also necessary to update to release
2023-01-11 of the MusiXTeX fonts package.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex136.zip

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex-fonts2023-01-11.tds.zip

These updates will eventually appear in TeXLive and MiKTeX.

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Re: [Tex-music] Tales from typesetting a professional edition with MusiXTeX

[Bob Tennent]

Thanks Wilfried for the suggestions.

First, the good news.  I've uploaded musixtex.136beta to WIMA:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex.136beta.zip

This thickens the Postscript hairpins and the ledger lines, as discussed.
Also an extension library musixthacc.tex provides "thinner" accidentals;
horizontal spacing and adjustments are left to the user.

(Also, BTW an extension library musixmkm.tex providing accidentals for
classical Turkish music (makam). )

The bad news is that I don't see any way to correct any of the other
issues.

Best,
Bob T.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 5:26 PM Wilfried Lingenberg <
w.lingenb...@t-online.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Over the last three years I have been preparing a professional music
> edition
> of a major work for flute and piano using MusiXTeX, and I thought I should
> share some of my experiences and make suggestions for improvement. I am
> fully aware that preparing a score print-ready and to professional
> standards
> is not what MusiXTeX is designed for in the first place. I am pretty
> confident, however, that most of my suggestions would not be difficult to
> implement.
>
> Two sample pages of my edition can be previewed here:
>
> https://www.notenbuch.de/Grosse-Konzertsonate-op-85-Kuhlau-Friedrich-CFS4709
> -1551022.html#
> 
> (Click on the cover illustration.)
> It is an Urtext edition, so the appearance of the score was precisely
> determined by my editorial choices, and I would have wished that no
> compromise of the "not-100%-correct-but-easier-to-typeset" kind had been
> necessary; but see section "1. Beams" below .
> For the "orthography" of musical typesetting, I predominantly relied on
> Elaine Gould's standard reference book "Behind Bars" (London 2011), plus
> the
> occasional look into first-rate engraved editions (mainly Henle, sometimes
> Schott).
>
> 1. Beams
> Beams are probably the one item where it is downright impossible to achieve
> a fully professional output (as described in Gould 17-21) with MusiXTeX,
> and
> my guess is that solving this problem would not even be too difficult, at
> least within the musixvbm package which I used. The current syntax of
> specifying an initial pitch and a slope (as in "\ibbu1g{-2}") leads to the
> following problems:
> (i) It is often impossible to avoid beams beginning or ending between
> stave-lines, which is orthographically incorrect (ultimately for reasons of
> readability). (A ubiquitous problem which MusiXTeX obviously knows nothing
> about. You will notice a couple of instances already in the two sample
> pages
> linked above.)
> (ii) For very long beams, slope 1 may be far too much, while slope 0 may be
> orthographically incorrect. (A rare problem but quite serious whenever it
> does occur; I had to live with a couple of harsh compromises in my
> edition.)
> To solve this, the syntax of musixvbm beams would have to be reorganised. A
> possible approach might be: There are only three orthographically correct
> positions for the beginning and the end of a beam: sitting on, centred on,
> or hanging from, a stave-line. If the user had the possibility of choosing
> line and position independently for beginning and end of the beam (i.e.,
> specifying four parameters instead of two), problems (i) and (ii) would
> vanish. (Obviously, the two parameters for line and position could be
> combined into one, but this may lead to a less intuitive syntax.)
> Lastly, (iii), multiple beams should be implemented according to the
> established rules: Roughly speaking, the 16th beam goes on the "inside" of
> the 8th beam while 32nd and higher beams are added on the "outside" (64th
> beams may need a different design altogether, at least as an option; see
> Gould 18).
>
> 2. Slurs
> I was able to make use of musixps, but only "by coincidence", since in my
> score no complicated cases occurred. There were, e.g., no S-shaped slurs to
> connect notes on different staves. (Dirty tricks like putting together an
> S-shaped slur from two or three regular slurs may be possible, though.)
> Basically, the musixps slurs looked beautiful, but there were some issues:
> (i) I would have wished to have more influence on the two Bezier control
> points. If I had been able to choose both of them independently and within
> a
> sensibly large range, I could have realised every shape of slur needed in
> my
> score without limitation. Currently, psslur does not really support the
> more
> asymmetric shapes of slurs (the parameter \psslurangul was of virtually no
> use to me).
> (ii) It would be desirable to have influence on line thickness, too; a
> slightly thicker line would seem preferable to me.
> (iii) Both MusiXTeX's and musixps's handling of slurs over line breaks
> works
> only for horizontal slurs (i.e., ties, mostly), so I had to break all slurs
> manually (and undo and redo this every time I decided to move a line 

Re: [Tex-music] Help Needed for Implementing Turkish Classical Music Accidentals

[Bob Tennent]

Hiroaki:  Thank you.  I've followed your procedure and generated the
feta20.ps as described in your steps 1-4.

Ali:  Can you let me/us know from the feta20.pdf Hiroaki attached which
glyphs you need?  I (or someone on this list) should be able to define
suitable macros.

Bob T.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 9:50 AM Hiroaki MORIMOTO  wrote:

> Hello Ali Unlu and all,
>
> This is a very similar theme to musixadf.tex which has been included in
> recent MusiXTeX distribution.
>
> Unfortunately I am not familiar with Overleaf; I don't know whether
> Overleaf system does accept any additional METAFONT source and
> user-extension TeX macros by user level or not.
>
> But if you have a TeX system working on your own local computer, there is
> a way.  It's lucky that the musical font of LilyPond are originally written
> in METAFONT; therefore, the font can also be used in other TeX documents
> within the licencing terms (GNU-GPLv3).
>
> In case of my Windows 10 PC and W32TeX (nearly equal to TeXLive), the
> example procedure will be:
>
> 1. Get LilyPond source code from https://lilypond.org/source.en.html and
> extract it.
> 2. Copy all the contents of extracted lilypond-2.24.0\mf directory into
> (for example) C:\w32tex\share\texmf-local\fonts\source\public\lilypond.
> The destination directory depends on the particular distributions (TeXLive,
> MiKTeX, etc.).
> 3. Run METAFONT to get the TFM file:
>  mf \mode=ultre; input feta20.mf
>feta20.tfm and feta20.1200gf will be produced.
>feta20.tfm is needed in the next step.  feta20.1200gf is no longer
> needed.
> 4. Run TeX (not LaTeX, but plain TeX) for feta20.tex attached with this
> mail:
>tex feta20.tex
>In this process, the tfm file feta20.tfm generated by above described
> procedure is required.
>You will get a DVI file feta20.dvi if your TeX system is enough
> up-to-date and is set up appropriately.
>Convert the DVI file into PS with dvips
>  dvips -e 0 -D 1200 feta20.dvi
>or convert into PDF with dvipdfmx
>  dvipdfmx -r1200 feta20.dvi
>otherwise you can use pdfTeX (color specials not work).
> 5. Find the character code of the character you want.
> 6. Develop extension macros to use the character you want.
>
> The step 6 is a very hard work.  This requires very deep understanding of
> musixtex.tex.  Unfortunately I cannot provide further help because I have
> no time nor motivation to develop for the time being.
>
> Note that the attached file feta20.tex is made by me and for just my
> personal test use.  You can change the basename of the attached file as you
> like for the use of trying another font; but appropriate TFM file is
> required to run it.  I hope this file useful for everyone on this mailing
> list.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Hiroaki
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: Ali Unlu 
> > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:09:44 +0300
> > To: tex-music@tug.org
> > Subject: [Tex-music] Help Needed for Implementing Turkish Classical Music
> >   Accidentals
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I use Overleaf with the MusixTex package to take notes for my Turkish
> > Classical Music lessons and I need help with implementing the glyphs for
> > the custom accidentals.
> >
> > There are ten accidentals in Turkish Classical Music, eight of which are
> > custom. A diagram showing all of them can be found in the Wikipedia page
> > for Turkish makams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_makam), the
> > system used in Turksh Classical Music. These accidentals are available in
> > Lilypond but it is not possible to use Overleaf with Lilypond.
> >
> > With my limited knowledge, I managed to define the "mirrored" flat one
> as:
> >
> > \newcommand{\bemol}[1]{%
> > \reflectbox{\fl{#1}}\kern6pt%
> > }
> >
> > However, others require designing custom glyphs. Hence, I need someone to
> > help me with this.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > - inline -
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

So you're using a distribution dvips, rather than texlive's dvips.  Please
verify that you have the musixtex fonts, likely part of the texlive-music
package.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:22 PM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 5:11 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:
> >
> > Rodolfo:  As has already been determined, the problem is the dvips
> step.  Please do
> >
> > $ which dvips
> >
> > and if the output is
> >
> > /usr/local/bin/dvips
> >
> > do
> >
> > $ ls -l/usr/local/bin/dvips
> >
> > which should point to .../texlive2022/bin/x86_64-linux/dvips
> >
> > I suspect you're using a corrupt dvips.
> >
> > Bob
>
> $ which dvips
> /usr/bin/dvips
>
> dvips works fine on PS non-musical files.
>
> Rodolfo
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

Do you have ghostscript installed?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:13 PM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 4:57 PM Agustin Martin 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Rodolfo,
> >
> > Is package texlive-music installed? Before installing it some fonts
> > were found missing,
> >
> > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for xslz20
> > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for mxsk
> > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for musixspx
> > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for musix20
> > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for musix13
> >
> > and even dvi file looked wrong.
> >
> > But after installing it result looks good here (Debian unstable).
>
> Thanks, well, texlive-music is installed, and dvips output looks all
> right so it does not seem to lack any font.  I'm running Unstable too.
> The problem occurred just after upgrading and since then my printer
> won't work either and neither the application "gv" to read PS files...
>
> Rodolfo
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

Rodolfo:  As has already been determined, the problem is the dvips step.
Please do

$ which dvips

and if the output is

/usr/local/bin/dvips

do

$ ls -l/usr/local/bin/dvips

which should point to .../texlive2022/bin/x86_64-linux/dvips

I suspect you're using a corrupt dvips.

Bob

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:53 AM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 4:37 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:
> >
> > Rodolfo:  Please run musixtex -i pmx   and attach all the
> intermediate and log files. I run Linux Mint and don't see a problem.
>  AFAIK, only Christian
> > has duplicated the problem, also on Mint I believe.   We've got to get
> to the bottom of this.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Thanks...  Here they are:
>
> Rodolfo
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

Rodolfo:  Please run musixtex -i pmx   and attach all the intermediate
and log files. I run Linux Mint and don't see a problem.   AFAIK, only
Christian has duplicated the problem, also on Mint I believe.   We've got
to get to the bottom of this.

Bob

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:31 AM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 4:18 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Rodolfo wrote
> >
> > > What do you people suggest?
> >
> >
> > Switch to Windows 10 
> >
> >
> >
> > Seriously, did you solve the problem?
> >
> > --Don Simons
>
>
> Unfortunately not...
>
> Rodolfo
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

Produces good output here.  Maybe your dvips binary is corrupt?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 1:41 PM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 6:40 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps you should attach your dvi file for us.
>
> Here it is:
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

Perhaps you should attach your dvi file for us.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 1:32 PM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 6:29 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:
> >
> > What is the output generated by dvips bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.dvi ?
>
> It looks ok also:
>
> $ dvips bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.dvi
> This is dvips(k) 2022.1 (TeX Live 2022)  Copyright 2022 Radical Eye
> Software (www.radicaleye.com)
> ' TeX output 2022.11.19:1817' -> bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.ps
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> [1]
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

What is the output generated by dvips bach-bwv847prel_fug#2.dvi ?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 1:22 PM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 6:15 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:
> >
> > Looking at the log produced by musixtex -i, I see that musixdia.tex and
> musixper.tex are input; I don't know why.  Is it possible you don't have
> these extension packages?
> > Perhaps you should run musixtex -i   and attach the log file.
>
> The log file looks ok, and those two tex file are present in my
> system.  I'm attaching the log file.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

Looking at the log produced by musixtex -i, I see that musixdia.tex and
musixper.tex are input; I don't know why.  Is it possible you don't have
these extension packages?
Perhaps you should run musixtex -i   and attach the log file.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 1:09 PM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 6:05 PM Jean-Pierre Coulon  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry !
>
> Ok, now I could process your DVI but the PS output has the same
> problem of my original PS:
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

That seems to date from 2015.  Try installing from https://ctan.org/pkg/pmx
or http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx-2.98a.zip.

Bob T.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 11:34 AM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 4:26 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:
> >
> > Works OK here.  What version of PMX are you running?
> >
> > Bob T.
>
> I think it's the one coming from and with Debian:
>
> # aptitude install pmx
> pmx is already installed at the requested version (2.7.0.ctan20150301-4)
> pmx is already installed at the requested version (2.7.0.ctan20150301-4)
> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
>
> And:
>
> # aptitude install musixtex
> musixtex is already installed at the requested version
> (1:1.20.ctan20151216-4)
> musixtex is already installed at the requested version
> (1:1.20.ctan20151216-4)
> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rodolfo
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Problems with PDF output

[Bob Tennent]

Works OK here.  What version of PMX are you running?

Bob T.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 11:12 AM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> Hi, dear friends:
>
> after using xml2pmx and obtaining the PMX file, I launch musixtex on
> it but get a messed PDF output.  My system is a Debian Linux latest
> version.  Anybody there using the same?  I'm attaching both PMX and
> PDF outputs.  Please help who can.  It may be some bug in some
> application, possibly dvips, but I don't know how to work it out.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Dirk Laurie

[Bob Tennent]

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 11:07 AM Christian Mondrup <
c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:

>
> I believe to remember an email correspondance in which Dirk considered
> rewriting M-Tx in luatex.
>

Yes, I remember him asking me if I would take that on.  As I'm fairly
unfamiliar with the M-Tx language (input), the pmx language (output) and
lua (the proposed programming language), I declined.

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[Tex-music] Dirk Laurie

[Bob Tennent]

The following announcement may be of interest:

https://www.sun.ac.za/english/Lists/news/DispForm.aspx?ID=6628

M-Tx isn't mentioned explicitly but his interests were said to include
"music (choir singing, playing the recorder, and aficionado in general)".

The current form of the musixtex.lua script is very much due to Dirk's
extensive development of and improvement to the rudimentary script I had
produced.

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Re: [Tex-music] Dirk Laurie

[Bob Tennent]

Thank you Luigi.  Your guide to M-Tx (in Italian) is Chapter 3 of

https://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/lcgpmx.pdf

Bob T.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 5:18 AM Luigi Cataldi  wrote:

> I'm really saddened by this news. I constantly use mtx, which for me has
> always been a really useful program and for which I have also written a
> guide in Italian that should still be on WIMA.
>
> I am not a programmer, but it seems necessary that the program continues
> to be available.
>
> Last but non least. Is there anything we can do to celebrate his memory on
> WIMA?
>
> Luigi Cataldi
>
>
> Il 25/07/22 23:09, Bob Tennent ha scritto:
>
> I've just learned that Dirk, the author of the m-tx preprocessor died in
> 2019.  Is anyone interested in taking over the original sources (in
> Pascal)?  I'll continue to maintain the CTAN package as long as there is
> interest.
>
> Bob T.
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Re: [Tex-music] pattern matching in m-tx

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On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 12:11 PM Bernard Moreton 
wrote:

> I for one am an m-tx user;  and I'm very sorry to hear about Dirk's death.
> M-tx has been very useful to me!
>
>
> Bernard Moreton
>

Good to hear.  Thanks.

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Re: [Tex-music] pattern matching in m-tx

[Bob Tennent]

Whether or not there are any remaining m-tx users, it would seem that there
are *no* possible issues arising from the uninitialized variable in the
implementation of function grep because function grep is *only* used in the
implementation of function match and function match is *never* used in the
current m-tx sources.   In short, it would appear that there is no urgency
to update the m-tx package.  I again ask if anyone might be interested in
taking over maintaining the Pascal sources.

Bob T.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 9:07 AM Bob Tennent  wrote:

> A software engineer has reported an uninitialized-variable bug in the
> utility function grep in m-tx.  If you're an m-tx user and have experienced
> issues that might be attributed to this, please let me know.  The bug at
> issue is in Dirk's Pascal sources but presumably he never encountered it or
> perhaps the fpc compiler he used would quietly fix the issue in some way;
> however, the most likely naive "solution", initializing the Boolean
> variable to false, would actually be incorrect.
>
> Bob T.
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[Tex-music] pattern matching in m-tx

[Bob Tennent]

A software engineer has reported an uninitialized-variable bug in the
utility function grep in m-tx.  If you're an m-tx user and have experienced
issues that might be attributed to this, please let me know.  The bug at
issue is in Dirk's Pascal sources but presumably he never encountered it or
perhaps the fpc compiler he used would quietly fix the issue in some way;
however, the most likely naive "solution", initializing the Boolean
variable to false, would actually be incorrect.

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[Tex-music] Dirk Laurie

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I've just learned that Dirk, the author of the m-tx preprocessor died in
2019.  Is anyone interested in taking over the original sources (in
Pascal)?  I'll continue to maintain the CTAN package as long as there is
interest.

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Re: [Tex-music] ties versus tenuto slurs

[Bob Tennent]

Jean-Pierre:  The vertical offset for ties is set in musixps.tex by the
value of \pstieraise.  Try \def\pstieraise{0.6}.

Bob T.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 1:58 PM Jean-Pierre Coulon  wrote:

> Without musixps a tie begins at the note height, right side. a \iten
> begins at the height of the center of the note. When I use musixps this
> opposition disappears. Is it a bug or a feature?
>
> Bye,
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Re: [Tex-music] ties versus tenuto slurs

[Bob Tennent]

Seems to be an incompatibility between font-based ties and Postscript ties.
If you work through musixps.tex, the only difference between \iten and
\itie is in the *horizontal* offset.But there should be a different
*vertical* offset as well.

Bob T.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 1:58 PM Jean-Pierre Coulon  wrote:

> Without musixps a tie begins at the note height, right side. a \iten
> begins at the height of the center of the note. When I use musixps this
> opposition disappears. Is it a bug or a feature?
>
> Bye,
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Re: [Tex-music] MusiXTeX: changes at the end of a system

[Bob Tennent]

Unfortunately, the author of musixtex is no longer with us.  If someone
wants to try implementing this suggestion, I'll incorporate it, but note
that new attributes can be activated by no less than 14 different commands
and some of them can be used when there are *no* attribute changes.

The source for the example in Section 15.5 of musixdoc.pdf can be found in
doc/generic/musixtex/musixdoc/changing.tex in a texlive texmf tree or at
https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/musixtex/doc/musixdoc/changing.tex .

Bob T.

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 4:01 AM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 12:12 AM  wrote:
> >
> > Rodolfo--
> >
> > I now understand exactly what you're looking for, and it poses a very
> > interesting logical problem. I don't have a solution. But I will just say
> > that in a way PMX has already solved the problem if you leave the line
> break
> > locations up to PMX: if the meter change comes at the start of a new
> system
> > it repeats it at the end of the old one; otherwise it doesn't do anything
> > special.
> >
> > --Don
>
> Thanks.  MusiXTeX should perhaps be implemented to apply that by
> default when breaking line, because that's the convention in music
> typesetting: otherwise the meter change will run the risk not be
> clearly readable e.g. during instrumental execution.
>
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[Tex-music] TeXLive 2022

[Bob Tennent]

TeXLive 2022 has been officially released.

The 2022 release provides musixtex (1.35), pmx (2.98a), M-Tx (0.63c),
autosp (2021-01-07) and xml2pmx (2021-02-07).
Installing the latest release is recommended because older releases no
longer get updates.

Compiled binaries are provided for many Unix-like platforms, including
Linux and MacOSX, and for Windows (but Windows users may find MiKTeX to be
more convenient).

Installation instructions are provided at WIMA:
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html#texlive

If you have enough disk space, TeXLive 2022 can be installed in parallel
with one or more older versions,
but most users should first uninstall an existing active TeXLive as
follows:

tlmgr remove -all

This will not remove ``local'' or ``personal'' additions, provided you have
not put them into the texmf-dist tree.

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Re: [Tex-music] pmx 2.98a

[Bob Tennent]

 > Unfortunately, I no longer have access to a Mac with development tools
so OSX executables are not provided.

A colleague has built Mac OSX binaries and these are now available in the
pmx-2.98a.zip archive.

Bob T.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 3:45 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:

> Don Simons has released PMX version 2.98a. This release fixes beaming in
> 6/2 time and after a new-movement command.
>
> It is available at
>
> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx298a.zip
>
> An easy-to-install package with a zipped texmf tree, Windows executables
> and a tar.gz file which can be processed on any Unix-like system with
> basic GNU tools and a C compiler is available  at
>
> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx-2.98a.zip
>
> Consult pmx-install.pdf for installation instructions.
>
> Unfortunately, I no longer have access to a Mac with development tools so
> OSX executables are not provided.  If anyone can provide ssh access to a
> suitable system or the missing executables, please contact me.
>
> Bob Tennent
>
>
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[Tex-music] pmx 2.98a

[Bob Tennent]

Don Simons has released PMX version 2.98a. This release fixes beaming in
6/2 time and after a new-movement command.

It is available at

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx298a.zip

An easy-to-install package with a zipped texmf tree, Windows executables
and a tar.gz file which can be processed on any Unix-like system with basic
GNU tools and a C compiler is available  at

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx-2.98a.zip

Consult pmx-install.pdf for installation instructions.

Unfortunately, I no longer have access to a Mac with development tools so
OSX executables are not provided.  If anyone can provide ssh access to a
suitable system or the missing executables, please contact me.

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Re: [Tex-music] >10000 downloads

[Bob Tennent]

Only 1?  :+)

https://imslp.org/wiki/Oedipus,_Z.583_(Purcell,_Henry)#Musick_for_a_While_2

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:25 AM  wrote:

> Since I recently learned about the number-of-downloads counter in IMSLP, I
> checked through some of my own contributions to the archive. The biggest
> number I found was 10213, for Pasquini’s Follia variations for solo
> harpsichord!
>
>
>
> https://imslp.org/wiki/Partite_diversi_di_follia_(Pasquini%2C_Bernardo)
>
>
>
> --Don Simons
>
>
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Don: Looking through the "history" of the Work page, your original
submissions were as user Dsimons and your new submissions were as
[[User:Donsimons|Donsimons]].  The latter seemed to be unknown so I changed
the User field to Dsimons and that must have provoked the (possibly
automatic) deletions.   Sigh.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:15 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:

> Don:  When I complained to the administrator about the deletion of your
> files, his response was
>
> Is his category page associated with his account and name linked in the
>> editor field to category page? That should be automated in the upload
>> process, do not touch this. Otherwise immediate deletion.
>
>
> I don't know what this jargon means.  Is it possible you logged in
> differently from before and IMSLP thinks you're not the same user so that
> my "fix" was referring to the original user rather than the "new" user?
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
>> the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page
>> with
>> title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not
>> use
>> this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link
>> 'Add
>> a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
>> upload a replacement file for the score.
>>
>> --Don
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: TeX-Music 
>> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
>> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
>> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
>> >
>> > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
>> > > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
>> > > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
>> > > this
>> > > page:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
>> > > pp)
>> > >
>> > > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
>> > > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
>> > >
>> > > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
>> > > slightly different names
>> >
>> > Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded
>> by #
>> > and search Upload a new version of this file
>> >
>> > You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
>> >
>> > Bye
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Don:  When I complained to the administrator about the deletion of your
files, his response was

Is his category page associated with his account and name linked in the
> editor field to category page? That should be automated in the upload
> process, do not touch this. Otherwise immediate deletion.


I don't know what this jargon means.  Is it possible you logged in
differently from before and IMSLP thinks you're not the same user so that
my "fix" was referring to the original user rather than the "new" user?

Bob

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM  wrote:

> Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
> the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page
> with
> title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not use
> this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link
> 'Add
> a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
> upload a replacement file for the score.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> >
> > > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
> > > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
> > > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
> > > this
> > > page:
> > >
> > >
> > https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
> > > pp)
> > >
> > > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
> > > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
> > >
> > > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
> > > slightly different names
> >
> > Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded by
> #
> > and search Upload a new version of this file
> >
> > You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
> >
> > Bye
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Don:  Un-doing the edit didn't work because the files have been deleted.
You'll have to re-submit. The IMSLP admins are really sensitive to
mistakes, even when their interface is so misleading.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:47 AM Bob Tennent  wrote:

> It seems an IMSLP admin has deleted Don's Concerts submissions.  I've
> complained to him.  It's likely because Don had submitted two versions of
> three of the concerts (instead of new versions of the existing files).
>
> Don:  You may have to re-submit your scores :+( but I'll try un-doing his
> edit.
>
> Bob
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:16 AM Christian Mondrup <
> c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:
>
>> Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
>> > The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a
>> > new version is half-way down on that page
>> >
>> > I fixed the page.
>> >
>>
>> I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user
>> friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I,
>> around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable
>> editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven,
>> and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.
>>
>> That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian
>> interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to
>> be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.
>>
>> All the best
>> --
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>> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

It seems an IMSLP admin has deleted Don's Concerts submissions.  I've
complained to him.  It's likely because Don had submitted two versions of
three of the concerts (instead of new versions of the existing files).

Don:  You may have to re-submit your scores :+( but I'll try un-doing his
edit.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:16 AM Christian Mondrup <
c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:

> Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a
> > new version is half-way down on that page
> >
> > I fixed the page.
> >
>
> I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user
> friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I,
> around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable
> editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven,
> and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.
>
> That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian
> interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to
> be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.
>
> All the best
> --
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Christian: Perhaps you could suggest to the IMSLP admins that the page you
get when you click on "Upload a new version of this file" could be improved.
The warning "Please do NOT use this form to upload music scores!" should
read "Please do NOT use this form to upload *new* music scores!"  and
there should be a heading for the section that *is* to be used for new file
versions,  comparable to the "Upload Picture" heading.  I could fix Don's
work page but I can't fix the new-version template.

Bob

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:16 AM Christian Mondrup <
c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:

> Den 20.01.2022 kl. 03.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > The warning is to not upload /new/ scores.  The section for uploading a
> > new version is half-way down on that page
> >
> > I fixed the page.
> >
>
> I admit that the IMSLP editing facilities are not particularly user
> friendly. However, IMSLP was the only qualified alternative when I,
> around 2010, realized that I'd never manage to establish a sustainable
> editorial community around WIMA. I had ideas then to a database driven,
> and maybe a bit more intuitive user interface.
>
> That's history. And I've accustomed myself to IMSLP's Wikipedian
> interface. So Don, if/when you encounter new problems I'll be happy to
> be there with a helping hand like Bob and Jean-Pierre.
>
> All the best
> --
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> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

The warning is to not upload *new* scores.  The section for uploading a new
version is half-way down on that page

I fixed the page.

Bob

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 7:06 PM  wrote:

> Well, I did manage to use the "Add a file to this page" link, and uploaded
> all six. But now all 6 are appearing in a separate list from the original
> 3.
> So clearly they weren't handled as replacements but rather as new uploads.
> Is there any way to send a message to someone at IMSLP alerting them to the
> fact that the original 3 should be removed, or should I just wait and see
> how they handle it and take it from there?
>
> Meanwhile I did get 2 replies from Bob. He appears to be saying I should
> have just proceeded to upload my files from the page entitled "Upload
> picture", but I wasn't comfortable doing that, in light of the explicit
> warning not to upload music scores from there.
>
> I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the way I did it worked.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of dsim...@roadrunner.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 3:30 PM
> > To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> >
> > Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click
> on
> the
> > number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page with
> title
> > "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not use
> this
> > form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link 'Add a
> file
> > to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
> upload
> a
> > replacement file for the score.
> >
> > --Don
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: TeX-Music  > bounces+dsimons=roadrunner@tug.org>
> > > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
> > > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> > >
> > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
> > > > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's
> > > > 6 "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
> > > > this
> > > > page:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
> > > > pp)
> > > >
> > > > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done
> > > > some editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
> > > >
> > > > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
> > > > slightly different names
> > >
> > > Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded
> > > by # and search Upload a new version of this file
> > >
> > > You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
> > >
> > > Bye
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jean-Pierre Coulon
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Sorry, I didn't read all of your message.  After "Upload a new version of
this file" click on "Choose  file".



On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM  wrote:

> Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
> the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page
> with
> title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not use
> this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link
> 'Add
> a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
> upload a replacement file for the score.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> >
> > > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
> > > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
> > > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
> > > this
> > > page:
> > >
> > >
> > https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
> > > pp)
> > >
> > > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
> > > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
> > >
> > > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
> > > slightly different names
> >
> > Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded by
> #
> > and search Upload a new version of this file
> >
> > You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
> >
> > Bye
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > ---
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Look for "Upload a new version of this file".

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM  wrote:

> Thanks, Bob and Jean-Pierre, but I couldn't get past #(1). When I click on
> the number and then on "Upload a new version of this file" I get a page
> with
> title "Upload picture" and just below that the statement "Please do not use
> this form to upload music scores! To submit a score please use the link
> 'Add
> a file to this page ...' ". There doesn't appear to be any option there to
> upload a replacement file for the score.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:54 PM
> > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> >
> > > I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my
> > > typeset edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann's 6
> > > "Concerts" for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on
> > > this
> > > page:
> > >
> > >
> > https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Phili
> > > pp)
> > >
> > > I've now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
> > > editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
> > >
> > > (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with
> > > slightly different names
> >
> > Let me take problems 1 by 1: click on one of the big numbers preceded by
> #
> > and search Upload a new version of this file
> >
> > You will be offered "Source filename: choose " Hope it will be easy.
> >
> > Bye
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Pierre Coulon
> > ---
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:44 PM  wrote:

> I recently managed to upload 3 files to IMSLP, each containing my typeset
> edition of a score and 2 parts, representing 3 of Telemann’s 6
> “Concerts” for flute and harpsichord. They are fully accessible on this
> page:
>
> https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Philipp)
>
> I’ve now completed typesetting the remaining 3 concerts, and done some
> editing of the first 3. I want to do the following:
>
> (1) Replace the 3 files that are there with new, edited ones with slightly
> different names
>

To install a revised score, click on the file number (e.g.,  #754329)  and
then click on "Upload a new version of this file" .  To re-name the new
version, click on Edit near the top of the Work Page.

(2) Add the 3 additional files
>

You'll have to install them as you did the initial 3 files and then do some
editing of the resulting Work Page.


> (3) Change the header to read “Concerts I-VI for Flute and Harpsichord
> (Simons)”
>

Edit the Work Page.


> (3) Change the name on the tab from “Scores (9)” to “Scores and Parts
> (12)”, since all the files on the page contain BOTH score and parts.
>

You should probably just stick with Scores.  The Parts subsection is I
think for music that *only *exists in parts, such as music published in the
1600s.

>
>
> As usual, I keep getting stuck.  For example, after logging in, at the top
> of the page when I click on “Add File/New Edition” the only options are
> “Score”, “Parts”,”Other” or “Source Files”. If I select “Other”, hoping I
> could submit as “Score and Parts”, It asks me if I’m submitting my own
> edition. When I say yes, it redirects me to a page saying “Create a
> category page for yourself, if you don't have one yet.
>
> Associate your category to your account…” I’ve submitted dozens of
> editions before and never had to do this, so I shouldn’t have to do it now.
>

Just submit "Scores". Maybe "your own edition" means your composition.

Ideally you should have a Category page like mine:
https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Tennent%2C_R.D.
  so you can link to it
using something like "Editor={{LinkEd|D.|Simons}}"

 Hope this helps.  If you install the files, I should be able to do the
Work Page editing for you.

Bob


*From:* dsim...@roadrunner.com 
> *Sent:* Monday, December 27, 2021 5:00 PM
> *To:* 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
> *Subject:* Uploading to IMSLP?
>
>
>
> I have typeset parts and scores for the flute+harpsichord versions of 3
> “concerts” from Telemann’s “6 Concerts et 6 Suites”. I want to upload them
> to IMSLP. I’ve hit a brick wall, and can’t even get started. None of the 12
> pieces seem to have links from the list of Compositions, but this link is
> listed under Collections:
> https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Philipp)
> . I’ve evidently successfully logged in to IMSLP, but can’t get any further
> because I can’t find any “add new file” links on that page or anywhere
> else. Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
>
>
>
> Don Simons
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Re: [Tex-music] MusixTeX Cajon drum for 16th doesn't show upper beam

[Bob Tennent]

The problem here has nothing to do with drums or x; the \ibbu beams have to
be terminated by \tbu, not \tbbu.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:39 PM Qiang Chen 陈强  wrote:

> Dear community,
>
> The problem is simple, when I use MusiXTeX  to write something for the
> cajon drum, once I add 'x' to the 16th beam, it doesn't show the upper beam
>
> The source file and the pdf are attached.
>
> The same problem is also submitted here
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/628867/106187
>
> God bless!
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

Don:  Do it now and you'll only need to edit one page.  If they create
three new work pages you'll have to edit three pages :+)

Bob

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:47 AM  wrote:

> Thanks, Christian. I find the IMSLP upload process incredibly complicated
> and not at all intuitive. I'm crossing my fingers that the site editors
> will create extra pages and move things around like they want. If and when
> that happens, or if they send me explicit instructions about what to do and
> how to do it, I'll go back and mark them as part of the WIMA collection.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Christian Mondrup
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:20 AM
> > To: tex-music@tug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> >
> > Den 28.12.2021 kl. 13.37 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > > IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts
> > > should be located in separate pages as they are not really organized
> > > as a "collection".  But then there should be links to those concert
> > > pages in the General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1
> > > (TWV 42:D6) is already linked that way.
> >
> > An example on distributing single pieces from a collection to separate
> IMSLP
> > work pages could be 'Newe Weinacht Liedlein mit 4 und 8 Stimmen'
> > by Leonard Schröter
> >
> > https://imslp.org/wiki/Newe_Weinacht_Liedlein_mit_4_und_8_Stimmen_(
> > Schr%C3%B6ter%2C_Leonhard)
> >
> > If you select the menu item 'Page->Edit' you can see how to create
> > references from the collection work page to the work pages of the single
> > pieces.
> >
> > I encourage marking PMX/MusiXTeX editions like this as members of IMSLP's
> > Werner Icking Collection. You do that by adding the IMSLP template
> >
> > {{WIMAProject}}
> >
> > to the 'Misc. Notes' field
> >
> > Best wishes
> > --
> > Christian Mondrup
> > WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> > http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
> >
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts should be
located in separate pages as they are not really organized as a
"collection".  But then there should be links to those concert pages in the
General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1 (TWV 42:D6) is
already linked that way.

Bob

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 11:09 PM  wrote:

> Thanks, Bob. I signed out and signed back in with a different user name
> (evidently I have two) and then the magic “add files” link appeared. Now
> we’ll see whether they accept the uploads. I was forced to choose between
> “score” and “parts”, but I provided both, and wound up combining them into
> a single pdf for each of the 3 “concerts”.
>
>
>
> BTW, these editions should prove to be of great interest to any
> harpsichordist and baroque flutist, as those two instruments alone form one
> of the 4 possible combinations that Telemann himself certified to play
> these trio sonatas, and he didn’t just slap together the bass line and the 2
> nd treble part but took the trouble to produce a complete, separate
> harpsichord part.
>
>
>
> --Don
>
>
>
> *From:* TeX-Music  *On
> Behalf Of *Bob Tennent
> *Sent:* Monday, December 27, 2021 5:54 PM
> *To:* Werner Icking Music Archive 
> *Subject:* Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
>
>
>
> >  I can’t find any “add new file” links on that page
>
>
>
> Near the top on the right-hand side directly across from 6 Concerts et 6
> Suites (Telemann, Georg Philipp).
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 8:04 PM  wrote:
>
> I have typeset parts and scores for the flute+harpsichord versions of 3
> “concerts” from Telemann’s “6 Concerts et 6 Suites”. I want to upload them
> to IMSLP. I’ve hit a brick wall, and can’t even get started. None of the 12
> pieces seem to have links from the list of Compositions, but this link is
> listed under Collections:
> https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Philipp)
> . I’ve evidently successfully logged in to IMSLP, but can’t get any further
> because I can’t find any “add new file” links on that page or anywhere
> else. Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
>
>
>
> Don Simons
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

[Bob Tennent]

>  I can’t find any “add new file” links on that page

Near the top on the right-hand side directly across from 6 Concerts et 6
Suites (Telemann, Georg Philipp).

Bob

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 8:04 PM  wrote:

> I have typeset parts and scores for the flute+harpsichord versions of 3
> “concerts” from Telemann’s “6 Concerts et 6 Suites”. I want to upload them
> to IMSLP. I’ve hit a brick wall, and can’t even get started. None of the 12
> pieces seem to have links from the list of Compositions, but this link is
> listed under Collections:
> https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Philipp)
> . I’ve evidently successfully logged in to IMSLP, but can’t get any further
> because I can’t find any “add new file” links on that page or anywhere
> else. Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
>
>
>
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Re: [Tex-music] Problem accessing the archive

[Bob Tennent]

Hi Christian.  Seems to be okay now.  Thanks.

Bob

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 5:58 AM Christian Mondrup <
c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:

> Den 07.12.2021 kl. 00.34 skrev dsim...@roadrunner.com:
> > Bob--
> >
> > When I try to access the Icking "archive" at
> >
> > _https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/_<
> https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/>,
> >
> > or the past versions of MusiXTeX at
> >
> > _https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/older-versions_<
> https://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/older-versions>,
> >
> > I get the message
> >
> > "It appears you don't have
> >
> > permission to access this page.
> >
> > 403 Error. Forbidden."
> >
> > Any idea what's happening?
>
> I experienced something similar problem in another WIMA area a few
> months ago. As most often in such cases I asked Massimo Capozza (Italy),
> technical manager of WIMA, CPDL and IMSLP for advice. And as most often
> we found a solution, a .htaccess file with some directives stored at a
> suitable location in the folder hierarchy.
>
> It looks like the hostgator staff has taken some measurements causing
> the 403 error. After I added a similar .htacess file at the root of the
> MusiXTeX software hierarchy I'm able to access the above mentioned
> links. Please have a try.
>
> Best wishes
> --
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Re: [Tex-music] Increase multiplicity of staff-crossing beam

[Bob Tennent]

See Section 5.7 of musixdoc.pdf.

Bob T.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:56 AM Rodolfo Medina 
wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> In the following example, to be processed with simply:
>
>   tex test
>   musixlfx test
>   tex test
>
> the double bar of the staff-crossing beam should be different from it is:
> the
> second bar (added by \nbbu) should actually be below the original one
> (started
> by \ibl), whereas it is above it.  How can achieve what I want?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Rodolfo
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\input musixtex
\input pmx

\setclef1\bass%
\def\raisevolta{6\internote}%
\instrumentnumber{1}%
\setname1{}%
\setstaffs12%
\absoluteaccid%
\bigaccid%
\generalsignature{3}%
\generalmeter{\meterfrac44}%
\interstaff{9}%
\interstaff{12}%
\barnumbers%
\startpiece
%beginmusic
\Notes\ibl3{'F}{-4}\qb3G%
|\qup e%
\prevstaff\ibu4d{-3}\nextstaff\roff{\qb4d}\en
\notes\tbl3\zqb3{L}\nbbu4\qb4c\tbu4\qb4b\en
\notes
\hl{''A}\sk\sk\sk%
\ibl3{`F}{-4}\qb3G\tbl3\qb3E%
|\sk\cu{'a}\qup b\sk\sk\cu{`g}%
\nextvoice\ibl4d7\qb4c\tbl4\qb4f%
\ibl4c{-4}\qb4d\tbl4\qb4b\ql e%
\en
\bar%
\zendpiece

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Re: [Tex-music] Serenissima font

[Bob Tennent]

Hi Christian. OK for use in LibreOffice, but adapting the font for use in
MusiXTeX would be quite challenging.  Even when there are analogous glyphs,
they won't be drop-in replacements.  But  I doubt you would need the full
power of MusiXTeX for incipits.

Bob

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 12:18 PM Christian Mondrup <
c...@icking-music-archive.org> wrote:

> Den 28.08.2021 kl. 15.01 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > Early Music Sources provide a font that emulates 16th and 17th century
> music
> > publications.  It is supposed to work in conventional word-processing
> > programs with ligatures enabled, but it should be possible to adapt it
> for
> > use with MusiXTeX.  Let me know if this might be of interest to you.
>
> Having looked at the Serenissimanbhome page and experimented with the
> font in LibreOffice writer I believe it would be perfect for preparing
> incipits in early music editions.
>
> Best wishes
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Re: [Tex-music] musixtex-134

[Bob Tennent]

Oops.  That subject should have been musixtex-135.

Bob T.



On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 10:40 PM Bob Tennent  wrote:

> I've released a new version of musixtex that includes a "handwriting" font
> from MuseScore and an extension library musixjt.tex to use this font for
> all textual elements of a score, as is traditional in jazz scores.
>
> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex135.zip
> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf
>
> Bob T.
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[Tex-music] musixtex-134

[Bob Tennent]

I've released a new version of musixtex that includes a "handwriting" font
from MuseScore and an extension library musixjt.tex to use this font for
all textual elements of a score, as is traditional in jazz scores.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex135.zip
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf

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[Tex-music] Serenissima font

[Bob Tennent]

Early Music Sources provide a font that emulates 16th and 17th century music
publications.  It is supposed to work in conventional word-processing
programs with ligatures enabled, but it should be possible to adapt it for
use with MusiXTeX.  Let me know if this might be of interest to you.

https://www.earlymusicsources.com/more/font-serenissima

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[Tex-music] musixtex 1.34

[Bob Tennent]

I've released version 1.34 of MusiXTeX. This release
includes a new extension library musixftab.tex which
supports traditional French tablature using script
letters rather than numerals to specify notes. The
\tabfnt definitions in musixtex.tex have been revised to
allow re-definition in musixftab.tex. A mini-font file
frenchtab.pfb and associated support files are included.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex134.zip

After unzipping the musixtex.tds.zip and updating the
file-name database, you'll have to update the font-map
files, for example by executing

  sudo updmap-sys -enable Map frenchtab.map

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Re: [Tex-music] musixtex version 1.33

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Den 04.07.2021 kl. 18.23 skrev Bob Tennent:

 >|> I've released a new version of the musixtex package.
 >|> This version improves on the tablature support:
 >|> tablature notes are now in (Helvetica) bold, tablature
 >|> notes below the staff now use slashes (/) rather than
 >|> ledger lines, as is conventional in French tablature,
 >|> and new commands are provided to generate notehead-less
 >|> stems above a tablature staff to specify note duration.
 >|> Full details in Section 18.10 of musixdoc.pdf.
 >|>
 >|> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex133.zip
 >|> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf
 >|
 >|I'd recommend _centering_ the notehead-less stems above
 >|the tablature digits. The example in musixdoc.pdf the
 >|stems are placed as if the noteheads were visible.

Thanks for the suggestion Christian. I've actually
re-implemented those commands so that (tiny) noteheads *are*
shown for "duration" indications, including for half and
full-notes. There are examples of this. (The hard part of
the implementation was suppressing ledger lines and then
preventing the dots in dotted notes from being raised.) I'm
also now avoiding using more than 3 "slashes" (for baroque
lutes) by simply replacing the slashes by a *number* (4-7),
also a traditional notation.

I'll upload to WIMA and CTAN soon.

Best,
Bob

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[Tex-music] musixtex version 1.33

[Bob Tennent]

I've released a new version of the musixtex package. This
version improves on the tablature support: tablature notes
are now in (Helvetica) bold, tablature notes below the
staff now use slashes (/) rather than ledger lines, as is
conventional in French tablature, and new commands are
provided to generate notehead-less stems above a tablature
staff to specify note duration. Full details in 
Section 18.10 of musixdoc.pdf.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex133.zip
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf

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Re: [Tex-music] musixtex-fonts version 2

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Takanori Uchiyama, the developer of the type1 musixtex
 >|fonts, has been following the discussion in the various
 >|mail lists and, remarkably, has regenerated all the type1
 >|fonts, correcting *all* the inconsistent glyph widths
 >|(and also the internal FontNames). I've been testing
 >|these fonts with several example scores, including
 >|musixdoc, and everything seems to be working. In
 >|particular, horizontal dashed lines generated by dvipdfmx
 >|are okay. I would say that the visual quality is better
 >|than before!

I've had no problems reported to me so I've uploaded
musixtex-fonts2021-06-07 to WIMA and CTAN.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex-fonts2021-06-07.tds.zip
https://www.ctan.org/pkg/musixtex-fonts

Updates to TeXLive and MiKTeX should arrive in a day or two.

Thank you Takanori.

Bob T.

 >|To install: unzip the archive at the root of a personal or
 >|local texmf tree, update the filename database (for example,
 >|texhash ~/texmf) and enable the font-map musix.map (for
 >|example, updmap-user -enable MixedMap musix.map). Verify
 >|that these fonts are going to be used by doing
 >|
 >|  kpsewhich musix11.pfb
 >|
 >|and go ahead and use them.  Both dvips and dvipdfmx should
 >|work well. Please report any issues to me and Takanori.
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[Tex-music] musixtex-fonts version 2

[Bob Tennent]

Takanori Uchiyama, the developer of the type1 musixtex
fonts, has been following the discussion in the various mail
lists and, remarkably, has regenerated all the type1 fonts,
correcting *all* the inconsistent glyph widths (and also the
internal FontNames). I've been testing these fonts with
several example scores, including musixdoc, and everything
seems to be working. In particular, horizontal dashed lines
generated by dvipdfmx are okay.  I would say that the
visual quality is better than before!

If you're able to, please test these new fonts, available at 

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex-fonts.version2beta.tds.zip

To install: unzip the archive at the root of a personal or
local texmf tree, update the filename database (for example,
texhash ~/texmf) and enable the font-map musix.map (for
example, updmap-user -enable MixedMap musix.map). Verify
that these fonts are going to be used by doing

  kpsewhich musix11.pfb

and go ahead and use them.  Both dvips and dvipdfmx should
work well. Please report any issues to me and Takanori.

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Re: [Tex-music] dvipdfmx issue

[Bob Tennent]

As a stopgap measure, I've released a new version of the
musixtex-fonts package. The only significant change is
that the widths of three glyphs in musixspx.pfb have been
adjusted to work around recent changes to dvipdfmx that
resulted in overly long horizontal dashed lines such as
octaviation lines. Users of other dvi processors (dvips,
xdvi, yap, dviout) will not be affected.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex-fonts2021-06-01.tds.zip

Please report to me any other issues with dvipdfmx. Use the
-v option to get error/warning messages. You can use the
musixtex.lua script as follows: 

  musixtex -d -D "dvipdfmx -v" ... 

It will clearly be impossible to similarly adjust every one
of the 20K glyphs by hand but I can deal with particular
issues.

One hopes that the dvipdfmx developers will eventually
respond with an appropriate global solution to this issue.

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[Tex-music] dvipdfmx issue

[Bob Tennent]

I believe that the majority of musixtex users convert
TeX output using dvips and that is the default in the
musixtex.lua script. But there are also users of dvipdfmx,
including many in Japan, presumably because it handles the
relevant fonts better than dvips. The musixtex script will
use dvipdfmx with the -d option.

But a user has discovered an issue with dvipdfmx processing
of musixtex scores: horizontal dashed lines such as
octaviation lines are bizarely too long. Because no other
dvi processor has this problem and it has arisen only with
recent releases of dvipdfmx, I was pretty sure this was a
bug in dvipdfmx.

So I was surprised when a dvipdfmx developer informed me
that the problem was inconsistencies between glyph widths
as determined in the tfm files and glyph widths in the
corresponding type1 fonts. And I was told to "fix" the
fonts.

Well, the type1 musixtex fonts have been used without any
issues for over 20 years and correcting the glyph widths of
every one of the 20K glyphs in all of the type1 fonts is
clearly impractical.  So I looked for another approach.

I thought that if dvipdfmx were configured to use the
metafont sources rather than the type1 fonts, the problem
could be worked around. But it seems dvipdfmx currently will
continue to use glyph widths from the type1 fonts and embed
the type1 fonts even if the relevant map file (musix.map)
has been disabled! In my opinion, this is certainly a bug.
We'll have to see if the dvipdfmx developers agree.

To workaround this behaviour, one must actually *remove*
the type1 musixtex fonts (best done in a personal texmf
tree). Then dvipdfmx behaves itself, uses the tfm widths and
horizontal dashed lines are okay.

That's where things stand at the moment. I'm hoping that the
dvipdfmx developers will come to their senses or at least
provide an option to force use of tfm glyph widths, at least
for fonts for which the user has chosen to disable the type1
versions.

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Re: [Tex-music] IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL PMX USERS WITH LETTER SIZE PAPER

[Bob Tennent]

 >|That will insert the necessary \hoffset and \voffset
 >|commands into your TeX file, assuming you haven't altered
 >|the printed width and height \hsize and \vsize from their
 >|defaults.

TeX commands that will *calculate* the correct offsets for
*any* \hsize or \vsize can be found in Section 14.2 of
musixdoc.pdf (for either letter or A4 paper), if you do need
to adjust the sizes to increase or decrease the margins.

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[Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

And it seems that the -e0 option has been recommended for
dvips on musixtex output for a very long time. See 
Section 26.3 of musixdoc.pdf

Bottom-line:

If you don't use the musixtex.lua script, add -e0 as an
option to dvips to preclude the dvips "feature" (i.e.,
bug) of adjusting pixels according to some bizarre
resolution-dependent algorithm intended for letters in
words.

There seems to be no reason not to input musixvbm in your
preamble to produce "clean" beams.

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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

 >|dvips -e 0 foobar[.dvi]
 >|
 >|seems to be a solution.
 >|(not be perfect but becomes rather better with this option)

Thanks Hiroaki. As it happens, -e0 has been added to the
"default" dvips call in the musixtex.lua script since 2015!
I not sure I ever knew why :+)

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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

 >|I can reproduce the misalignment on my system by using
 >|
 >|  dvips -D 300 
 >|
 >|(following a suggestion by Hiroaki). Using -D 600 (the
 >|default resolution) does not produce misalignments.

On some systems the situation is reversed: -D 300 is good,
-D 600 is not. It seems -D 1200 should be okay everywhere.

Hiroaki thinks there's a bug in dvips and will prepare a bug
report.

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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

 >|I've had reports that musixvbm generates beams with
 >|misaligned note stems. See the attached. However, I can't
 >|reproduce this on my system. If you can on the attached
 >|source file, please let me know what versions of musixtex
 >|and dvips you are using.

I can reproduce the misalignment on my system by using 

  dvips -D 300  

(following a suggestion by Hiroaki). Using -D 600 (the
default resolution) does not produce misalignments.

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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

[Bob Tennent]

 >|It turns out there's already an option in PMX that causes
 >|the proper offsets for letter size paper to be inserted
 >|into the TeX file: Acl. Could you or Bob or both try
 >|inserting that into centtest.pmx near the beginning and
 >|checking? The numbers differ by 2 pt from what I had just
 >|recently worked out manually. Not that it makes much
 >|difference, but could you suggest whether I should revise
 >|the PMX option or leave it as is?

Don: Adding Acl generates centered music on letter paper. I
doubt that 2pt differences are noticeable but I urge you to
adopt the "formulas", which allow users to change the vsize
and hsize settings without affecting the centering. Using
"magic numbers" is not good practice.

Bob

P.S.  In TeXLive, the "paper" settings affect the pdftex
config file 

texmf-config/tex/generic/tex-ini-files/pdftexconfig.tex

as well as the dvips config file:

texmf-config/dvips/config/config.ps

The reason this may be significant is that etex is based on pdftex.

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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Processed in my environment
 >|
 >|Linux Mint 20.1
 >|TeXLive 2021
 >|PMX 2.94
 >|MusiXTeX 1.32
 >|Musixflx-0.83.3.lua7
 >|
 >|the score is clearly misaligned, see the attached .ps file

Christian:  When you installed TeXLive 2021, did you set the
paper option to A4?  Do you get different behavior if you use
texconfig to set the paper size to letter?

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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

[Bob Tennent]

 >|> Perhaps your TeX configuration has changed from letter
 >|> paper to A4?
 >|>
 >|Bob, first of all, thanks so much for your prompt replies. What you
 >|suggested could be the problem, but I'm still not sure. Here's what
 >|I know.
 >|By default, PMX sets \vsize and \hsize  for letter, and no offsets. That
 >|used to be OK, but now leads to the off center .ps I posted. Long ago
 >|I had
 >|built in a special option (Ac4) in PMX for a4. It puts in \hsize, \vsize,
 >|and the \hoffset and \voffset I worked out at the time for a4, I believe
 >|assuming that dvips would be run with the -ta4 option. I just now put the
 >|Ac4 option in the .pmx, PMX'd and TeX'd it, and ran dvips with -ta4.
 >|Bingo...nicely centered .ps, horizontally and vertically.
 >|
 >|Any idea how to change the TeX configuration to assume letter size paper?

Don: For MikTeX, open the MikTeX console -> Settings.
There should be a Page format box. That must set the dvips
configuration somewhere, I forget where.

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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

[Bob Tennent]

 >|I found empirically that \hoffset=-28pt centers the
 >|example, and that number agrees with Bob's formula. I
 >|suppose I can use that as a bandaid going forward.

The advantage of using the "formula" in your set-up is that
you can vary the \hsize and \vsize values without having to
recalculate the offsets by hand.

 >|But I'm still puzzled why I didn't have to worry about
 >|this before. I don't think I've made any changes that
 >|would affect this in PMX or pmx.tex, but has anything
 >|changed in musixtex.tex in the last few years that would
 >|have affected the centering?

I don't think so. Perhaps your TeX configuration has changed
from letter paper to A4?

Bob

 >|> -Original Message-
 >|> From: TeX-Music 
 >|> On Behalf Of a...@telenet.be
 >|> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 11:39 AM
 >|> To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
 >|> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem
 >|>
 >|> In pmx, i use something as (A4 format): w170m h258m \\voffset=-
 >|> 10mm\hoffset=0mm\ I mostly make sheets of songs, they are never the
 >|> same ( number of systems, of staves, musicsize, number off verses), so i
 >|> adapt the margin on every song. I do'nt use \advance, because if
 >|making a
 >|> booklet with many songs, each \advance increment the margin. I make
 >|a .ps
 >|> with: DVIPS.EXE -e0 -t a4 -P pdf -G0 %1.dvi Andre -Oorspronkelijk
 >|> bericht- Van: TeX-Music Namens dsim...@roadrunner.com Verzonden:
 >|> dinsdag
 >|> 18 mei 2021 17:13 Aan: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' Onderwerp: [Tex-
 >|> music] Centering problem I've noticed that the scores I now make using
 >|> PMX/MusiXTeX are not centered by default the same way they've been in
 >|> the past. The problem is both vertical and horizontal. I'm pretty
 >|sure the
 >|> change was not in PMX, since when I reprocess old .tex files that
 >|used to
 >|> come out centered, they don't any more. I'm attaching a simple PMX
 >|source
 >|> and the resulting .tex and .ps files. When I open the .ps in GSview,
 >|it is
 >|clearly
 >|> off center to the left, and less obviously lower than before. Do others
 >|get the
 >|> same .tex from the .pmx? Do others get the same .ps from the .tex? Do
 >|> others see the same shifts? My processing steps are PMX 2.94 etex
 >|(Version
 >|> 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.21 (MiKTeX 20.6.29) musixflx (Musixflx-0.83.3.lua7)
 >|etex
 >|> dvips (dvips(k) 2020.1 Copyright 2020 Radical Eye Software) I'm assuming
 >|> letter size paper, but not entering any options in any of the commands.
 >|Can
 >|> anyone help me sort this out? If worst comes to worst, is there a brute
 >|> strength TeX or dvips command that will shift the entire image on a page
 >|> both vertically and horizontally? Thanks for any help! --Don Simons
 >|Scanned
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Re: [Tex-music] Centering problem

[Bob Tennent]

 >|I've noticed that the scores I now make using
 >|PMX/MusiXTeX are not centered by default the same way
 >|they've been in the past. The problem is both vertical
 >|and horizontal. I'm pretty sure the change was not in
 >|PMX, since when I reprocess old .tex files that used to
 >|come out centered, they don't any more. I'm attaching a
 >|simple PMX source and the resulting .tex and .ps files.
 >|When I open the .ps in GSview, it is clearly off center
 >|to the left, and less obviously lower than before. Do
 >|others get the same .tex from the .pmx?

Yes.

 >|Do others get the same .ps from the .tex? Do others see
 >|the same shifts?

Yes, except for some differences in the embedded fonts.

 >|Can anyone help me sort this out? If worst comes
 >|to worst, is there a brute strength TeX or dvips
 >|command that will shift the entire image on a page both
 >|vertically and horizontally? Thanks for any help!

The commands to center material for *any* \hsize and \vsize
on letter-size paper are:

\hoffset=8.5in\advance\hoffset-\hsize\divide\hoffset2\advance\hoffset-1.0in
\voffset=11in\advance\voffset-\vsize\divide\voffset2\advance\voffset-1.0in

See Section 14.2 of musixdoc.pdf.

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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

I've had reports that musixvbm generates beams with
misaligned note stems. See the attached. However, I can't
reproduce this on my system. If you can on the attached
source file, please let me know what versions of musixtex
and dvips you are using.

Bob Tennent


strangebeam.tex
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[Tex-music] version 1.32 of MusiXTeX

[Bob Tennent]

I've released version 1.32 of MusiXTeX. It provides
a new add-on package musixvbm by Hiroaki Morimoto to
support vectorized beams and corrects two minor issues in
musixtex.tex.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixtex132.zip
http://kuuku.no.coocan.jp/pub/musixtex/musixvbm/index-e.html

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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Of course I agree --- it's copylefted because of the
 >|alignment with the first GNU GPLv2 licensed version,
 >|T.104. The obsolete URL (for previous service provider i
 >|used) in the comment should be updated before inclusion
 >|to mainstream :-)

Done.

 >|musixvbm is compatible with all the MusiXTeX core from
 >|T.98 (and maybe earlier) to 1.29 as far as my private
 >|experiences.
 >|
 >|A notice will be needed: "if you encountered beams
 >|invisible, commenting out 'input musixvbm' or say
 >|\vectorizedbeamfalse or contribute your alternative
 >|implementation. :-) "
 >|
 >|I don't know at all about xdvi and yap but I suppose
 >|someone can add alternative implementation for them using
 >|PostScript specials. But, automatic detection will not be
 >|functionable; the manual driver-routine selection like as
 >|musixpss will be needed.
 >|
 >|Older days, I wished to enhance following functionalities
 >|to musixvbm: - non-integer slope value assignment; -
 >|'from-A-to-B' slope assignment like slurs. but I did not
 >|have enough skill for it to keep all the compatibility
 >|with existing score sources.

Thanks Hiroaki.

Best,
Bob T.

 >|- Original Message -
 >|> From: Bob Tennent 
 >|> Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 08:42:25 -0400
 >|> To: Hiroaki MORIMOTO 
 >|> Cc: Werner Icking Music Archive 
 >|> Subject: Re: Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities
 >|>
 >|>
 >|>  >|Already there is.
 >|>  >|
 >|>  >|http://kuuku.no.coocan.jp/pub/musixtex/musixvbm/index-e.html
 >|>  >|
 >|>  >|All comments are welcome.
 >|>
 >|> Hiroaki: I can confirm that by inputting your musixvbm in
 >|> strangebeam.tex, the beam discontinuity disappears in the
 >|> Postscript and PDF output, but xdvi and yap apparently
 >|> do not support tpic specials so no beams are shown.
 >|> Nevertheless, this looks very promising. The comments
 >|> suggest compatibility with version 104 of musixtex. Can you
 >|> confirm compatibility with (the relevant lines of) current
 >|> musixtex? Are you aware of any other limitations of which
 >|> users should be informed? I propose, if you agree, to add
 >|> musixvbm to the musixtex package.
 >|>
 >|> Best,
 >|> Bob T.
 >|>
 >|>  >|> Long long ago, Stanislav Kneifl and Hiroaki Morimotu
 >|>  >|> separately created two different postscript slur
 >|>  >|> packages intended to remedy similar issues to those
 >|>  >|> we're now discussing with beams. Wouldn't it be great
 >|>  >|> if someone (with a lot more MusiXTeX and postscript
 >|>  >|> knowledge that I have) were to create such a package
 >|>  >|> for beams?
 >|>  >|>
 >|>  >|> --Don
 >|>  >|>
 >|>  >|> > -Original Message- From: TeX-Music
 >|>  >|> >  On
 >|>  >|> > Behalf Of Bob Tennent Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021
 >|>  >|> > 8:01 AM To: cou...@oca.eu Cc: Werner Icking Music
 >|>  >|> > Archive  Subject: Re: [Tex-music]
 >|>  >|> > strange beam discontinuities
 >|>  >|> >
 >|>  >|> >  >|Jean-Pierre: If I increase the zoom to 500%, I can
 >|>  >|> >see a |discontinuity using the most recent dvips but
 >|>  >|> >it's less >|pronounced.
 >|>  >|> >
 >|>  >|> > And if I zoom into the dvi, I see the same
 >|>  >|> > discontinuity. So the problem *is* in musixtex but
 >|>  >|> > can be exacerbated by an old dvips. Sigh.
 >|>  >|> >
 >|>  >|> > Bob
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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

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 >|Already there is.
 >|
 >|http://kuuku.no.coocan.jp/pub/musixtex/musixvbm/index-e.html
 >|
 >|All comments are welcome.

Hiroaki: I can confirm that by inputting your musixvbm in
strangebeam.tex, the beam discontinuity disappears in the
Postscript and PDF output, but xdvi and yap apparently
do not support tpic specials so no beams are shown.
Nevertheless, this looks very promising. The comments
suggest compatibility with version 104 of musixtex. Can you
confirm compatibility with (the relevant lines of) current
musixtex? Are you aware of any other limitations of which
users should be informed? I propose, if you agree, to add
musixvbm to the musixtex package.

Best,
Bob T.

 >|> Long long ago, Stanislav Kneifl and Hiroaki Morimotu
 >|> separately created two different postscript slur
 >|> packages intended to remedy similar issues to those
 >|> we're now discussing with beams. Wouldn't it be great
 >|> if someone (with a lot more MusiXTeX and postscript
 >|> knowledge that I have) were to create such a package
 >|> for beams?
 >|>
 >|> --Don
 >|>
 >|> > -Original Message- From: TeX-Music
 >|> >  On
 >|> > Behalf Of Bob Tennent Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021
 >|> > 8:01 AM To: cou...@oca.eu Cc: Werner Icking Music
 >|> > Archive  Subject: Re: [Tex-music]
 >|> > strange beam discontinuities
 >|> >
 >|> >  >|Jean-Pierre: If I increase the zoom to 500%, I can
 >|> >see a |discontinuity using the most recent dvips but
 >|> >it's less >|pronounced.
 >|> >
 >|> > And if I zoom into the dvi, I see the same
 >|> > discontinuity. So the problem *is* in musixtex but
 >|> > can be exacerbated by an old dvips. Sigh.
 >|> >
 >|> > Bob
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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Jean-Pierre: If I increase the zoom to 500%, I can see a
 >|discontinuity using the most recent dvips but it's less
 >|pronounced.

And if I zoom into the dvi, I see the same discontinuity. So
the problem *is* in musixtex but can be exacerbated by an
old dvips. Sigh.

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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

Jean-Pierre: If I increase the zoom to 500%, I can see a
discontinuity using the most recent dvips but it's less
pronounced.

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Re: [Tex-music] strange beam discontinuities

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Does everybody see a gap between J and F and an overlap between M and L in
 >|the 16th notes?
 >|
 >|The problem in the same in the PostScript file but it is not present
 >|in the
 >|dvi file.

Jean-Pierre: There is a discontinuity between L and M in
your PDF (generated using dvips from 2013) but not if I
process your source using the most recent dvips (2021.1).

BTW, your example source file inputs musixtex.tex twice.

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[Tex-music] texlive 2021

[Bob Tennent]

TeXLive 2021 has been officially released (but may not yet
have reached all the mirrors). The 2021 release provides
musixtex (1.31), pmx (2.94a 2021-01-28), M-Tx (0.63c),
autosp (2021-01-07) and, for the first time, xml2pmx
(2021-02-07). 

Compiled binaries are provided for many Unix-like platforms,
including Linux and MacOSX, and for Windows (but Windows
users may find MiKTeX to be more convenient). Check out
installation instructions here:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html#texlive

If your system has texlive-derived packages installed by a
distribution package manager, you should remove these before
installing texlive itself.

If you have enough disk space, TeXLive 2021 can be installed
in parallel with one or more older versions, but most
users should first uninstall an existing active TeXLive as
follows:

tlmgr remove -all

This will not remove "local" or "personal" additions,
provided you have not put them into the texmf-dist tree.

Bob Tennent
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Re: [Tex-music] Searching the list archives

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Perfect, there's my backdoor in; thanks. I'm a bit surprised that this
 >|dances neatly around the privacy settings of the whole list.

I think they don't reveal the e-mail addresses, which is likely the
intent of the "privacy" settings.

Bob T.


 >|> Try
 >|>
 >|> http://www.mail-archive.com/tex-music@tug.org/
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Re: [Tex-music] icking-music-archive.org

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 >| The WIMA home page is up-and-running again

Thanks Christian.

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[Tex-music] icking-music-archive.org

[Bob Tennent]

This web site appears to be inoperative.  But

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/

and 

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs

are OK.

Bob T.

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Re: [Tex-music] Searching the list archives

[Bob Tennent]

 >|tug.org provides a search box atop the private view of the archives that
 >|farms out queries to DuckDuckGo, e.g. searching "gliss" searches
 >|DuckDuckGo for "gliss site:tug.org/pipermail/TeX-Music."
 >|
 >|The problem is that this never turns up results ??? seems that
 >|tug.org/pipermail/TeX-Music doesn't exist. How should one go about
 >|fixing this (or working around it)?

Try 

http://www.mail-archive.com/tex-music@tug.org/

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Re: [Tex-music] scor2prt and irregular time signatures

[Bob Tennent]

 >|> In the case of scor2prt, an unusual and apparently
 >|> obsolete format is being accepted by gfortran but has
 >|> confused the most recent version of f2c. This has now
 >|> been fixed and a corrected version of the pmx package
 >|> has been uploaded to WIMA and CTAN. It will no doubt be
 >|> in texlive-2021.
 >|
 >|I download the zip from the new link you installed in
 >|WIMA, and looked at the scor2prt fortran source file in
 >|it. I see that it hasn't be altered, so it still has the
 >|one statement with the problematic H format specifier.
 >|(From an earlier comment of yours, I'm guessing you fixed
 >|the problem by manually correcting the c source produced
 >|by f2c).

Yes. That seemed more straightforward than me trying to
"correct" a Fortran program :+)  

 >|I'm attaching a very slightly modified fortran source
 >|with that output statement replaced as we had discussed
 >|earlier.
 >|
 >|If my speculations are correct, I'd appreciate it if you
 >|could apply f2c to the new source and see if it produces
 >|a usable c file.

Apparently it does:

% scor2prt ponyo-29.pmx
 This is scor2prt for PMX 2.94, 29 January 2021
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 7
  Any whole-bar rests of duration 80/64 will not be recognized
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 2
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 5
  Any whole-bar rests of duration 80/64 will not be recognized

% scor2prt howl-24.pmx
 This is scor2prt for PMX 2.94, 29 January 2021
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 3
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 3
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 7
  Any whole-bar rests of duration 72/64 will not be recognized
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 2
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 3
 Inserting rm, iv,nmbr: 2 2
 All done!

Though I'm surprised there's no "All done!" from the first
of these.

Best,
Bob
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Re: [Tex-music] scor2prt and irregular time signatures

[Bob Tennent]

Thanks Christian. gfortran is indeed an alternative but
perhaps you need to be reminded why translation to C
is important: TeXLive won't accept Fortran (or Pascal
or Oberon) sources. So the reason PMX and M-Tx are
distributed in TeXLive and available without compilation
for all their supported platforms is that I use f2c or p2c
to translate to C before distributing a tarball.

In the case of scor2prt, an unusual and apparently obsolete
format is being accepted by gfortran but has confused the
most recent version of f2c. This has now been fixed and a
corrected version of the pmx package has been uploaded to
WIMA and CTAN. It will no doubt be in texlive-2021.

Similarly, with the assistance of Mike Spivey, the
obc Oberon interpreter is being used to enable a
TeXLive-friendly version of Dieter's xml2pmx translator.
I expect xml2pmx will appear for the first time in
texlive-2021.

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Re: [Tex-music] scor2prt and irregular time signatures

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 >|When I need to compile a new PMX release I've been using gfortran for a
 >|while since f2c caused trouble. 

Hi Christian.  I use the following Makefile:

all: pmxab.c scor2prt.c

pmxab.c: pmx294.for
f2c -g -\!bs < pmx294.for > pmxab.c

scor2prt.c: scor2prt.for
f2c -g -\!bs < scor2prt.for > scor2prt.c

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Re: [Tex-music] scor2prt and irregular time signatures

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 >|I suppose you could try replacing that statement with the more
 >|conventional
 >|form:
 >|
 >|  write(*,'(a33,i3,a26)')'33H Any whole-bar rests of duration',lenbar,
 >| * '/64 will not be recognized'

This works if I use a sinle line:

write(*,'(a33,i3,a26)')'33H Any whole-bar rests of duration',lenbar,'/64 
will not be recognized'

Perhaps I'm forgetting where the asterisk goes; column 6?
Haven't written Fortran for 50 years :+)

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[Tex-music] scor2prt and irregular time signatures

[Bob Tennent]

> I recall some interactions a while back where I needed
> to make some changes in the PMX FORTRAN to make it more
> compatible with something, but I'd have to do some real
> digging to find the details. I also don't recall whether
> I made those same kinds of changes in scor2prt. I'm
> pretty sure one of them had to do with nested do loops
> terminating on the same line, which is perfectly OK in
> gfortran. Is any of this relevant here?

Hi Don. I don't think so. It seems to be a bug in (the
latest version of) f2c. Here are the lines in your source
that it can't deal with:

write(*,'(33H Any whole-bar rests of duration ,i3,
 *26H/64 will not be recognized)') lenbar

Anything "non-standard" there?

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