Re: [Texascavers] Zika

[Fritz Holt via Texascavers]

You mean all this good non caving information?
Fritz Holt
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> On May 24, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Damn, I wish people would remember to sign their emails. I would like to know 
> who posted all this good information. 
> 
> Jim Kennedy
> 
> Mobile email from my iPhone
> 
> 
> Just to provide a different perspective, only 1 in 5 even know have Zika 
> related illness when they are exposed.  It's not 'spiraling out of control' - 
> it's new to North America, yes. It's likely one of many illnesses that go 
> through populations and become part of the infectious tapestry that we all 
> live in. Is anyone reading alarmist articles about Heartland virus or Lone 
> Star fever?
>> 
>> Guillan-Barre syndrome is secondary to number of viruses, it's nothing 
>> specific to Zika. 
>> 
>> Microcephaly is seen in population in general, only about 1 in 100 mothers 
>> infected with Zika are affected. For comparison, about 40k people die in 
>> traffic accidents a year in brazil, 40K in US, 200K in India. Malaria kills 
>> 1 million people a year. 
>> 
>> RK
>> 
>> See http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/305163.php
>> Symptoms of Zika virus
>> 
>> Signs and symptoms of Zika virus are vague and can last for up to a week. 
>> Diagnosis of the virus is typically confirmed with a blood test.1 
>> Symptoms of Zika virus include:1,2 
>> Fever
>> Rash
>> Joint pain
>> Conjunctivitis (red eyes)
>> Muscle pain
>> Headache
>> Pain behind the eyes
>> Vomiting.
>> According to the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), only 1 in 4 people 
>> infected with Zika virus develop symptoms.5 In contrast, the CDC state the 
>> figure is 1 in 5. 
>> In the past, there have also been reports of patients developing 
>> Guillain-Barré syndrome following a Zika virus infection. Guillain-Barré 
>> syndrome is a rare but serious autoimmune disorder that affects the central 
>> nervous system.6 
>> Infection with the Zika virus is rarely severe enough to warrant 
>> hospitalization, and it is rarer still for an individual to die as a 
>> result.6 
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Re: [Texascavers] Brain fever

[Fritz Holt via Texascavers]

Sleaze, 
From your previous postings I was always under the impression that you were one 
of the smart people mentioned. But, I may be wrong as I sense a leaning to the 
left. Also, smart people don't support Hillary or Bernie. 
The devil made me do it.
Did I step in it?
Fritz Holt
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> On May 25, 2016, at 12:25 PM, via Texascavers  
> wrote:
> 
>  
>  
> In a message dated 5/25/2016 12:00:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> texascavers@texascavers.com writes:
> In summary, it is a good idea to install bug-zappers around the patio and
> porch and in southeast Texas install them in the house.
> When Doc dished the dirt on Zika the most interesting revelation was that 
> those who have previously had dengue may or may not be preferentially 
> selected for special complications. At 68 I am too old to get pregnant, but I 
> have had dengue several times including the hemorrhagic variety that almost 
> killed me in Thailand a few years back. I would wager that almost all Tex Mex 
> cavers have been exposed to one or more forms of dengue. The best 
> prophylactic method is to keep your pants on. Works for both pregnancy and 
> Zika.
>  
> Biblical plagues notwithstanding, bug zappers are the work of the Devil. 
> Mosquitos are not affected but countless beneficial insects get destroyed. 
> Each time a harmless moth or beetle gets zapped the Devil takes notice and 
> marks it  in his ledger so that during your eternal "rest" in Xibalba you 
> will zapped an equivalent number of times, perhaps about 10,000 times per 
> night. There you will keep good company with those who fail to sign their 
> emails.
>  
> Republicans don't want to waste money on basic research into Zika and other 
> causes of "brain fever" because by allowing such diseases to rage unabated 
> they are breeding a new and swelling generation of Trump supporters who will 
> make Amerika great again. It is smart people who have caused all the world's 
> problems and enough is enough! We don't need no edjumacation!
>  
> And besides, microcephaly isn't so bad. Many pinheads are happy. Just 
> consider Zippy who famously asked,"Are we having fun yet?", a phrase that I 
> have often found useful.
>  
> Since it is mandatory to speak of caves, and I did at least peer into a few 
> on my recent trip to Mexico, I would be happy to separately send copies of my 
> lavishly illustrated two part report entitled "A Trip to the Dentist" to 
> anyone who is interested. Therein you will learn of many things, some of 
> which will be peripherally related to caving. If you want to be put on the 
> story list let me know.
>  
> Sleazeweazel 352 495 9748 bmorgan994 (at) aol.com
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

[Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers]

Thanks Lyndon, but I get more thanks than complaints, believe it or not.

Charles


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Thanks Charles for doing the thankless job.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> Seems some clients don't show the email, some do, some show partials.  It
>> depends on how an email client sends the name of the person that is
>> author.  Gmail seems to play nice for the most part, but even I don't see
>> the names of some of the people.
>>
>> As I stated before to everyone, this was forced upon us because of AOL,
>> Yahoo, Outlook.com (Microsoft), etc and their anti-spam measures.  Those 4
>> kept marking the listserve email as spam and also automatically blocking
>> the emails.  Plus, once they "blacklisted us", emails would bounce and the
>> people who used those email addresses would get auto-unsubscribed from the
>> list.
>>
>> I know it's a pain about the lack of name for some people, but without
>> moving the mailing list to another medium, there is just not an easy fix.
>>
>> I've had 0 problems with those big 4 email providers since I changed the
>> settings.  No one is getting auto-unsubscribed and I've had to deal with 0
>> spam issues.
>>
>> If anyone has questions, complaints, comments, feel free to reply or send
>> me a private message.
>>
>> Charles, list serve owner and lurker
>> wo...@justfamily.org
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed when I
>>> read Texas Caver posts. Why did you think this was a recurring complaint?
>>> -- Mixon
>>> 
>>> What great comfort is there to be derived from a wife well
>>> obeyed!—Anthony Trollope, Barchester Towers
>>> 
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>>> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
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[Texascavers] NCKRI news: karst job announcement and call for Geological Society of America cave and karst abstracts

[George Veni via Texascavers]

Dear Friends,

Below are two announcements. The first is a job announcement in Guan and the 
second is a call for cave and karst abstracts for this year's Geological 
Society of America Convention. If you have questions, contact the people and 
organizations listed below and feel free to share this message with anyone who 
may be interested.

George

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Guam Hydrologic Survey (GHS) Research Associate:
This person would be responsible for working at the Water and Environmental 
Research Institute to maintain the Aquifer Database, WERI Hydrology Research 
Lab and equipment, and GHS portion of the WERI website; and to help prepare 
annual scientific reports on Guam's water resources status and trends. An 
understanding of karst aquifers would be an asset for applicants, as 90% of 
Guam's drinking water comes from the aquifer beneath the limestone plateau that 
comprises the northern half of the island.

CHARACTER OF DUTIES:
The Guam Hydrologic Survey (GHS) Research Associate reports to the Water and 
Environmental Research Institute Groundwater Hydrologist. Primary duties 
include maintaining and operating WERI's Hydrologic Database of electronic 
data, historical (paper) records, and geological samples for Guam, CNMI, and 
FSM. The Guam Hydrologic Survey (GHS) Research Associate coordinates with local 
and regional data-source agencies and organizations to ensure timely and 
complete archiving, updating, back-up, accessibility, and security of the data 
in the Database. Additionally, the Hydrologic Survey (GHS) Research Associate 
coordinates with WERI faculty and University service-providers and vendors to 
maintain WERI's GIS system network computers and its local area network, 
including maintenance of network security. The Guam Hydrologic Survey (GHS) 
Research Associate also supervises the laboratory work of designated student 
research assistants, as assigned by the Groundwater Hydrologist, for the 
production of Database products, including spreadsheets, charts, graphs, maps, 
geologic cross-sections, posters, schematic diagrams, and three-dimensional 
graphics in both paper and electronic form. Other duties include 1) assisting 
WERI faculty in the production and dissemination of GHS-mandated reports, 
educational materials, and other products, especially via the WERI/GHS website 
(www.guamhydrologicsurvey.com); 2) 
assisting WERI faculty with designated research activities and the development 
and preparation of related reports and educational materials; 3) assisting the 
U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) field team during its visits to collect data from 
the Guam Comprehensive Water Monitoring Program stations, and help maintain 
equipment and facilities between visits; and 4) assist in the identification of 
long-term and immediate work priorities in the implementation of all tasks 
necessary to ensure that WERI continues to meet the GHS mandate of Public Law 
24-247. The Guam Hydrologic Survey (GHS) Research Associate may perform other 
duties as assigned.

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:

  *   M.S. degree in environmental science or related area from a US-accredited 
institution or foreign equivalent

  *   Proficiency with computer-based database software and analytical tools, 
including MS Office applications, with interest and ability to learn and apply 
more-specialized tools such as Adobe, ArcGIS, and other graphics, mapping, and 
modeling software
  *   A self-starter and team player with solid social and communication skills
  *   Ability to set up and assist in the use and maintenance of field and 
laboratory instruments, including networked computers, and to post-process and 
archive the data
GUAM HYDROLOGIC SURVEY (GHS) RESEARCH 
ASSOCIATE

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Geological Society of America Convention

It is that time of year to announce the call for papers for the Geological 
Society of America (GSA) Convention. This year it will be held in Denver, 
Colorado, USA, on 25-28 September. A seven nine karst sessions are offered this 
year, showcasing the diversity and importance of karst research.

Registration is open. General information on the conference can be found at
http://community.geosociety.org/gsa2016/home.

Because the convention will be earlier than usual, notice that the abstract 
deadline is also earlier than usual at12 July 2016. Information on how to 
submit abstracts and the full list of sessions is available at
http://community.geosociety.org/gsa2016/science-careers/sessions

Ten sessions focused on karst have been proposed this year and NCKRI is 
sponsoring the following eight, with additional information provided by some 
session chairs. For information on all GSA topical sessions visit 
http://www.geosociety.org/meetings/2016/sessions/topical.asp.

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T109. Karst Hydrology: New Insights of Dynamic Aquifer Systems

Andrew Luhmann, 

Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

[Fritz Holt via Texascavers]

On the few times I post anything I will endeavor to sign off with my name and 
e-mail address. 
Fritz Holt
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> On May 25, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Charles for doing the thankless job.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> Seems some clients don't show the email, some do, some show partials.  It 
>> depends on how an email client sends the name of the person that is author.  
>> Gmail seems to play nice for the most part, but even I don't see the names 
>> of some of the people.
>> 
>> As I stated before to everyone, this was forced upon us because of AOL, 
>> Yahoo, Outlook.com (Microsoft), etc and their anti-spam measures.  Those 4 
>> kept marking the listserve email as spam and also automatically blocking the 
>> emails.  Plus, once they "blacklisted us", emails would bounce and the 
>> people who used those email addresses would get auto-unsubscribed from the 
>> list.  
>> 
>> I know it's a pain about the lack of name for some people, but without 
>> moving the mailing list to another medium, there is just not an easy fix.
>> 
>> I've had 0 problems with those big 4 email providers since I changed the 
>> settings.  No one is getting auto-unsubscribed and I've had to deal with 0 
>> spam issues.
>> 
>> If anyone has questions, complaints, comments, feel free to reply or send me 
>> a private message.
>> 
>> Charles, list serve owner and lurker
>> wo...@justfamily.org
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed when I 
>>> read Texas Caver posts. Why did you think this was a recurring complaint? 
>>> -- Mixon
>>> 
>>> What great comfort is there to be derived from a wife well obeyed!—Anthony 
>>> Trollope, Barchester Towers
>>> 
>>> You may "reply" to the address this message
>>> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
>>> came from, but for long-term use, save:
>>> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
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[Texascavers] New aboveground cave

[David via Texascavers]

David Locklear
dlocklea...@gmail.com

I discovered a new aboveground cave today:

https://goo.gl/photos/3uMkSVACiVcnznXLA

It is in west side of Houston, Texas.

Unfortunately it only went 10 feet of walking passage and most of the roof
had collapsed creating a skylight.

So technically it was barely an artificial rock shelter.

Here are the coordinates:

29.772091,-95.627122

It is a gated community.

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Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

[Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers]

Thanks Charles for doing the thankless job.



On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Seems some clients don't show the email, some do, some show partials.  It
> depends on how an email client sends the name of the person that is
> author.  Gmail seems to play nice for the most part, but even I don't see
> the names of some of the people.
>
> As I stated before to everyone, this was forced upon us because of AOL,
> Yahoo, Outlook.com (Microsoft), etc and their anti-spam measures.  Those 4
> kept marking the listserve email as spam and also automatically blocking
> the emails.  Plus, once they "blacklisted us", emails would bounce and the
> people who used those email addresses would get auto-unsubscribed from the
> list.
>
> I know it's a pain about the lack of name for some people, but without
> moving the mailing list to another medium, there is just not an easy fix.
>
> I've had 0 problems with those big 4 email providers since I changed the
> settings.  No one is getting auto-unsubscribed and I've had to deal with 0
> spam issues.
>
> If anyone has questions, complaints, comments, feel free to reply or send
> me a private message.
>
> Charles, list serve owner and lurker
> wo...@justfamily.org
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed when I
>> read Texas Caver posts. Why did you think this was a recurring complaint?
>> -- Mixon
>> 
>> What great comfort is there to be derived from a wife well
>> obeyed!—Anthony Trollope, Barchester Towers
>> 
>> You may "reply" to the address this message
>> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
>> came from, but for long-term use, save:
>> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
>> AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org
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Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

[Bill Bentley via Texascavers]

That reason is why I am slowly shutting down my mailing lists. Spam 
Wins, I surrender...



Bill


On 5/25/2016 3:53 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers wrote:
Seems some clients don't show the email, some do, some show partials.  
It depends on how an email client sends the name of the person that is 
author.  Gmail seems to play nice for the most part, but even I don't 
see the names of some of the people.


As I stated before to everyone, this was forced upon us because of 
AOL, Yahoo, Outlook.com (Microsoft), etc and their anti-spam 
measures.  Those 4 kept marking the listserve email as spam and also 
automatically blocking the emails.  Plus, once they "blacklisted us", 
emails would bounce and the people who used those email addresses 
would get auto-unsubscribed from the list.


I know it's a pain about the lack of name for some people, but without 
moving the mailing list to another medium, there is just not an easy fix.


I've had 0 problems with those big 4 email providers since I changed 
the settings.  No one is getting auto-unsubscribed and I've had to 
deal with 0 spam issues.


If anyone has questions, complaints, comments, feel free to reply or 
send me a private message.


Charles, list serve owner and lurker
wo...@justfamily.org 


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
> wrote:


But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed
when I read Texas Caver posts. Why did you think this was a
recurring complaint? -- Mixon

What great comfort is there to be derived from a wife well
obeyed!—Anthony Trollope, Barchester Towers

You may "reply" to the address this message
(unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
came from, but for long-term use, save:
Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu

AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org  or
sa...@mexicancaves.org 

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Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

[Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers]

Seems some clients don't show the email, some do, some show partials.  It
depends on how an email client sends the name of the person that is
author.  Gmail seems to play nice for the most part, but even I don't see
the names of some of the people.

As I stated before to everyone, this was forced upon us because of AOL,
Yahoo, Outlook.com (Microsoft), etc and their anti-spam measures.  Those 4
kept marking the listserve email as spam and also automatically blocking
the emails.  Plus, once they "blacklisted us", emails would bounce and the
people who used those email addresses would get auto-unsubscribed from the
list.

I know it's a pain about the lack of name for some people, but without
moving the mailing list to another medium, there is just not an easy fix.

I've had 0 problems with those big 4 email providers since I changed the
settings.  No one is getting auto-unsubscribed and I've had to deal with 0
spam issues.

If anyone has questions, complaints, comments, feel free to reply or send
me a private message.

Charles, list serve owner and lurker
wo...@justfamily.org


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed when I
> read Texas Caver posts. Why did you think this was a recurring complaint?
> -- Mixon
> 
> What great comfort is there to be derived from a wife well obeyed!—Anthony
> Trollope, Barchester Towers
> 
> You may "reply" to the address this message
> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
> came from, but for long-term use, save:
> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
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[Texascavers] Pond Party at Pete & Jocie's (August 6th, 2PM to 2AM)

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(August 6th 2PM to 2AM) The Pond Party is our big event of the year, featuring 
swimming, hot tub, sauna, bring your own meat BBQ/covered dish supper, keg of 
beer, and camping if you wish. There will be three grills to cook your meat on, 
and please bring a dish to share. We will try to serve dinner at 6:00. Please 
park along our lanes, as parking on the road invites crashers, and risks your 
car. Look for the Oztotl (Aztec Glyph) at the gate. You may be wondering, why 
August 6th. It's for warmer water and less chance of rain. The NSS has been in 
a rut of starting the convention one week after 4th of July weekend, which eats 
three weekends out of July. This July is the third year in a row of this. I 
like to give people 5 or 6 weeks notice on the date for the Pond Party, however 
last year the rains had not kicked in by the middle of May. I did not want to 
pick an August date at that point, because if the rains never did start, the 
pond might be six inches down by August. Therefore I picked June 20th. The 
rains of course did come. It rained so much on Memorial Day that our first 
afternoon swim had eighteen inches of brown water going over the dam. At the 
June 20th Pond Party it drizzeled all day and poured rain at 6:00 PM when we 
were trying to serve dinner. The bad forcast kept at least a third of our 
guests home. The ones that did come found that we did have enough tarps up, and 
had a good time. This year the rains started erilier, the creek is flowing 
great, and i'm confident that the pond will be full on Aug 6th. You don't need 
to wait until August to come swimming. Come to the First Afternoon Swim in 
Memorial day. Look fore more events in June, Like Sunday Swims, and maybe a 
Movie by the Pond.
For info call Pete: 512-897-9235
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[Texascavers] First Afternoon Swim at Pete & Jocie's (Monday, May 30 at 2 PM - 6 PM)

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(Monday, May 30 at 2 PM - 6 PM) This is our first afternoon event of the year, 
(a Sunday Swim on Monday, Memorial Day). Sunday Swims are smaller (Than the 
Pond Party, Aug 6th), events, with no organized food or drinks, although people 
often share what they bring. The pond is looking great, with big flow in the 
creek. (Hopefully it won't be like last year when heavy rain gave us 18" of 
brown water going over the dam). 12717 Bullick Hollow Rd. Austin, TX 78726. 
For info call Pete: 512-897-9235

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Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

[George D. Nincehelser via Texascavers]

I don't know of it being a recurring complaint. I don't post here that
often.  I don't read every post in detail.

It's never been an issue for me on any other list.

I suggest you stop insulting people you don't know.

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>>
>> But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed when I
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>> Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] to slow learner

[Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers]

To prevent viruses from harvesting all our emails and sending us "I am
trapped in some foreign country, send me cash please." emails.

Anonymously yours.

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[Texascavers] to slow learner

[Mixon Bill via Texascavers]

But the e-mail address from which the post came is not displayed when I read 
Texas Caver posts. Why did you think this was a recurring complaint? -- Mixon

What great comfort is there to be derived from a wife well obeyed!—Anthony 
Trollope, Barchester Towers

You may "reply" to the address this message
(unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
came from, but for long-term use, save:
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Re: [Texascavers] Brain fever

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In a message dated 5/25/2016 12:00:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
texascavers@texascavers.com writes:

In  summary, it is a good idea to install bug-zappers around the patio  and
porch and in southeast Texas install them in the  house.
When Doc dished the dirt on Zika the most interesting revelation was that  
those who have previously had dengue may or may not be preferentially 
selected  for special complications. At 68 I am too old to get pregnant, but I 
have had  dengue several times including the hemorrhagic variety that almost 
killed me in  Thailand a few years back. I would wager that almost all Tex Mex 
cavers have  been exposed to one or more forms of dengue. The best 
prophylactic method  is to keep your pants on. Works for both pregnancy and 
Zika. 
 
Biblical plagues notwithstanding, bug zappers are the work of the Devil.  
Mosquitos are not affected but countless beneficial insects get destroyed. 
Each  time a harmless moth or beetle gets zapped the Devil takes notice and 
marks it  in his ledger so that during your eternal "rest" in Xibalba you will 
zapped  an equivalent number of times, perhaps about 10,000 times per 
night.  There you will keep good company with those who fail to sign their  
emails.
 
Republicans don't want to waste money on basic research into Zika  and 
other causes of "brain fever" because by allowing such diseases to rage  
unabated they are breeding a new and swelling generation of Trump supporters 
who  
will make Amerika great again. It is smart people who have caused all the  
world's problems and enough is enough! We don't need no edjumacation!
 
And besides, microcephaly isn't so bad. Many pinheads are happy. Just  
consider Zippy who famously asked,"Are we having fun yet?", a phrase that I 
have 
 often found useful.
 
Since it is mandatory to speak of caves, and I did at least peer into a few 
 on my recent trip to Mexico, I would be happy to separately send copies of 
my  lavishly illustrated two part report entitled "A Trip to the Dentist" 
to anyone  who is interested. Therein you will learn of many things, some of 
which will be  peripherally related to caving. If you want to be put on the 
story list let me  know.
 
Sleazeweazel 352 495 9748 bmorgan994 (at) aol.com


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[Texascavers] Actual CAVING-Related (was Zika-Header nonsense)

[via Texascavers]

I don’t post near as often as I used to when I was TSA chairman and I know 
y’all are eternally thankful for that!

But, like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, some things never 
change.

Like certain cavers getting bogged down in nonsense, minutiae, and chronic 
cases of “got-be-rightus”.

But, in a more caving related vein…

I was wondering if/when the minutes from the TSA Spring meeting will be 
published and if/when the next issue of “The TEXAS CAVER” will be released.

The reason I ask is twofold: I haven’t paid my TSA , TCMA, or NSS dues in 
several years and I’m looking for reasons and justification to do so.

(THAT should elicit some responses now, huh?!   ☺)

I know a lot of other folks here don’t pay dues to the TSA/TCMA/respective 
Grotto/NSS and never have or never will, but, at least, I will admit to it.

The reasons I have quit paying are several:


· Wife, five kids, and five grandkids that I travel and do outdoor 
things with that don’t involve caving.

· Lots of national parks that I haven’t visited, but, I’m catching up 
on (three in April alone!).

· Distances from Dallas to go caving and, frankly, bored/burned out 
from 20+ years of caving.

· Ever increasing dues versus diminishing returns on investments for 
belonging to said organizations.

· Personality conflicts in local grotto. (Contact offlist).


So, after entering the Texas caving community back in the mid 90’s as a young 
firebrand wanting to get his, then 10 YO and 6 YO sons underground, they now 
are 31 and 27  (joined by a 22 YO sister in the Navy) and we now are on to 
other activities.

When we do go caving (there are still plenty of opportunities to go, without 
belonging to any organization), we either assist at some of the volunteer 
projects at the Texas State Parks we have developed connections with or we head 
out to the BIG caves in the greatness of New Mexico!


Now that I have thrown this firebomb, y’alll can weigh in or stand back and 
enjoy the flames!


Glad I could help and liven up (divert?) the conversation!


Remember that header, dammit!


MARK ALMAN – Caving Agnostic
(past TSA Chairman, past TSA Secretary, past editor “The TEXAS Caver”, past TSA 
Youth Contact, past TCMA member, past DFW Grotto, past DFW newsletter editor, 
NSS #43400-inactive)

texascav...@yahoo.com   (this is still active)










From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Don 
Arburn via Texascavers
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 9:51 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Zika

I got your "mic drop", how about something CAVING.
Boom.
--Don


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Re: [Texascavers] Zika

[Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers]

Gmail screenshot ... see image attachment with names of senders ... not
sure if cavetex allows images in emails ... if not oh too bad sorry.

[image: Inline image 1]

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Strangely enough, I used to see names, if only  occasionally, but for this
> thread I see only “texascavers@texascavers.com. Even on this reply. This
> might have been caused by an Apple update but the fact remains, not
> everyone can see who is mailing to the texascavers remailer. Jacqui
>
>
> J. LaRue Thomas
> jlrtho...@verizon.net
>
>
> > On May 24, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not on every mail reader. Not on my iPhone, until I attempt reply.
> >
> >
> > --Don
> >
> > On May 24, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A thread of 17 messages so far and I see every sender's name, such as
> "Crash Kennedy via Texascavers" at the top of the email. (Yes, my signature
> follows.)
> >>
> >> Scott D. Boyd
> >> GPS Technician - TX, LA, AR
> >> Professional Transportation, Inc.
> >>
> >> On May 24, 2016 8:16 PM, "Crash Kennedy via Texascavers" <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >> But CaveTex strips out the senders name, so it just shows up as being
> from texascavers.com.  Therefore, if you (and everyone else) fails to put
> your name at the end of your posting, none of us know the author.  It's a
> common courtesy.
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> >> Jim Kennedy
> >>
> >> 
> >> My full name is in my email.  I haven't used a .sig since the '90s.
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