Re: [Texascavers] A mobile-camp-kitchen idea.

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Google tells me that Loews is a Canadian hotel chain. And I already have a camp 
kitchen, so I'm not driving that far north and staying in that hotel just to 
get another one. 

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> On Dec 29, 2017, at 1:46 PM, David via Texascavers 
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> LOEW's Store has a large heavy-duty plastic box on wheels
> that has a unique feature.
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Re: [Texascavers] Digging Question

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Track hoe with a grapple (claw-type grabber attachment). 

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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:08 AM, John Brooks via Texascavers 
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> I was wondering if anyone had experience or techniques for extracting bailing 
> wire plugs from a sinkhole ?
> 
> We know where the really good leads are on a ranch because the rancher that 
> previously owned the property threw bailing wire into the really nice 
> sinkholes to plug the holes up.
> We have looped chains through the bailing wire and pulled plugs out of 
> several sinkholes successfullyand found several new caves.
> 
> The "plugged" sinks are upstream of a very large cave in the recharge area.
> 
> But one of the best sinkhole leads has us mystified. 
> 
> The bailing wire is rusted and fragile. And there is significant organic 
> matter captured in the wire mat. So the previous technique is not working.
> 
> We have several untested ideas. 
> 
> But thought someone might have experienced this before. Any ideas ?
> 
> Please contact me offline with responses.
> 
> John Brooks
> 
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[Texascavers] Survey class

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

In case you didn't see it on the UT Grotto Facebook page, this week's survey 
class is being postponed until next week. Sorry, but I'm working out of state 
this week. 

Jim

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Re: [Texascavers] looking for tips - caving in Missouri

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Contact Jonathan Beard, and tell him Crash sent you. He's in the NSS Members 
Manual. 

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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:21 AM, jaycc Jordan via Texascavers 
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> 
> Hello cavers,
> 
> I'm a member of the Greater Houston Grotto and I am visiting family in 
> Springfield Missouri until this Sunday.
> 
> I know there are tons of caves in this area and the Ozark mountains
> 
> I have my caving gear and I would love to do at least one wild cave while I 
> am here, I don't mind traveling a bit out of the way either. So, if anyone 
> has any tips on where I should go or if you want to go caving with me please 
> let me know.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] WHERE IS VICO?

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Right now, Vico is here at Stefan's going-away party. 

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> On Jul 22, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
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> I am told that I need to be in touch with Vico
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

James (and other interested cavers),

Bill posted the direct link, but as always, this information and so much more 
(PDFs of out-of-print issues!  Downloadable cave maps!) can be found on the 
AMCS website. To order, basically PayPal us the money and send your address and 
we will get it right out. There are other options, like sending a check by mail 
or buying in person from us in Austin or at events like TCR. Give me a shout 
and we can work something out. 

Jim "Crash" Kennedy
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> On Jul 9, 2017, at 10:43 AM, JAMES JASEK via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> How do I place an order for #40
> 
> Jim
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There is an article on scanning that room in the new AMCS Activities 
>> Newsletter 40, and there will be another one in number 41 next year 
>> (advertisement). 396 meters long, 242 m wide, and 225 m high. Volume 5.9 
>> million cubic meters. -- Mixon
>> 
>> Nature is a hanging judge.
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] book review: Twelve Miles from Daylight

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

They are available from the authors here at the NSS Convention for only $44.95. 
I bought mine on Mindy. 

Jim

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> On Jun 21, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Twelve Miles from Daylight: Fort Stanton Cave and the Snowy River 
> Discovery." Edited by Pete Lindsley and Lee Skinner. Fort Stanton Cave Study 
> Project, Placitas, New Mexico. ISBN 978-0-939748-83-9. 9 by 12 inches, 
> softbound, vi+306 pages+foldout. $54.95.
> 
> For too many years, Fort Stanton Cave has been in the shadow of New Mexico’s 
> Lechuguilla Cave, the subject of several books, one published in three 
> languages and one a trilogy of e-books. This new large-format book should go 
> far to redress that. Since the 1950s, organized cavers have extended the cave 
> to over thirty-one miles of passage, including the amazing Snowy River 
> Passage that runs eleven miles north-south and gives the overall line-plot on 
> a topo map an extent that appears to dwarf famous caves that are in fact 
> longer. There are color photographs on most pages, including over thirty 
> full-page ones. Simple maps of parts of the cave clarify the geography. While 
> there is a lot of other information, the bulk of the text consists of trip 
> reports by a large number of authors, which should enhance its appeal to 
> cavers.
> 
> There have been significant delays in exploration caused by a persnickety 
> owner for such things as environmental assessments, but overall the BLM seems 
> to have been reasonably accommodating. In the early years, efforts focussed 
> on long and arduous digs in the old part of the cave that resulted in its 
> considerable expansion. Things changed dramatically on September 1, 2001, 
> when a dig led to the discovery of the Snowy River Passage, largely walking 
> and in places providing plenty of obvious good leads. The passage gets its 
> name from the layer of white calcite that coats the floor of the stream bed 
> for its entire length. The passage proved not all that easy to follow. To 
> avoid soiling the Snowy River, parties had to change from dirty to clean 
> clothes every time they had been forced to walk on mud banks or breakdown by 
> some obstruction, and eventually even small, fast parties of young and fit 
> cavers were making “day trips” over thirty hours long; sometimes they 
> returned with over a mile of new survey. The project was eventually given 
> permission to establish a campsite near the far end of exploration, but it 
> has been used only twice.
> 
> Perhaps the most impressive single accomplishment in the book is the digging 
> and shoring of a new and safer access shaft to the Snowy River. This is over 
> forty feet deep, and 222 cavers are credited in an appendix with helping in 
> the effort.
> 
> The several people credited with checking and proofreading have done a good 
> job, and the text is clear and mostly free of errors. The layout is garish 
> and ignores some common standards. The reader will have to dodge the numerous 
> and often lengthy sidebars in some of the early chapters, but later chapters 
> are better organized. Don’t ignore the sidebars, though. They contain a lot 
> of historical information, impressions and reports by many cavers, and 
> science notes. The most important event in the entire book, the discovery of 
> the Snowy River Passage, is buried in a sidebar at the end of chapter 6. The 
> photographs are well selected and well prepared, although I wonder whether 
> some of the colors are not exaggerated. Appendices include a glossary and an 
> index that is thorough but lists people by their first names.
> 
> As this is written, based on a final PDF of the book provided by Pete 
> Lindsley, the cave has been closed by the BLM because of white-nose syndrome, 
> and anyway travel in the Snowy River passage has been forbidden for the past 
> couple of years because the steam is flowing and it is feared that the 
> calcite floor will be too delicate when wet. It is not yet clear how much of 
> the time the stream flows; this is not the first time that has been seen. The 
> government also doesn’t want cavers to push beyond its property lines. I kind 
> of hope they have and are just not talking about it. In any case, we’re sure 
> to eventually hear a lot more about this spectacular cave. Meanwhile, buy 
> this book.
> --Bill Mixon
> 
> Nature is a hanging judge.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] meat for TCR

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Axis, aoudad, and pig is all good. If the new cooks don't want it, I'll take 
it. Vico and I can butcher and freeze it, and enjoy it cooked in many delicious 
dishes. 

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> On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK get in touch with Vico. We can work on this. We will have to shoot the 
> small ones. Mac and I will set up traps next week and bait them. We were 
> getting one a day for about three months awhile back. what about Aoudads? 
> They are pretty rank but the small ones are sort of like cabrito. They are a 
> pest too, destroy crops and such. And of course we could get an Axisi deer. 
> The vegans will rebel I am sure and the PETA people will freak out but these 
> three types of critters are bad news.
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[Texascavers] 15th Laguna de Sanchez survey expedition

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

After a long break, we will be returning to the Laguna de Sánchez area in Nuevo 
León over spring break (11-19 March) to continue surveying the numerous caves 
there (about 140 at last count).  Vertical competence is useful but not totally 
necessary. Contact me offlist if interested. Details on the area and past trips 
can be found on the Project page at www.garot.com/LdeS. 

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Re: [Texascavers] Mike Walsh contact?

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

mikewaus...@austin.rr.com
(512) 249-2283

Jim

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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have received in inquiry from a caver in the eastern US about the Texas 
> caver who has a place in Aquismón, Mexico. That would be Mike Walsh, but I 
> have no current contact info for him at all. Presumably the e-mail address 
> tcc-caves@... no longer works, because the TCC no longer exists. He is not in 
> the latest NSS list. Can anyone enlighten me via a personal response? -- Mixon
> 
> A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Caver Toyota For Sale]

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

So who posted that, and how much do they want for it?

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[Texascavers] Cave gate help needed

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Cavers,  I'm looking for someone to help with three cave gates in northern Hays 
County, starting this Wednesday. I have one paid position for all three gates 
(up to five days, but should take less), and opportunities for volunteers 
Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday if you can't commit to the whole time. Contact 
me offlist if interested. 

Jim Kennedy

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Re: [Texascavers] email clients

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

That's funny!  Most of mine come from "Marvin Miller!"

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[Texascavers] CaveSim

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Cavers,

I was talking to Dave Jackson at the NSS Convention a couple of weeks ago, and 
he was wondering if we wanted CaveSim at TCR again this year. He would love to 
come again, but I think we had to raise about $1500 last year to cover his 
expenses. TCR Honcho Don Arburn said it was very popular, but he doesn't have 
time this year to raise the money. Is anyone out there in caverland willing to 
take on this responsibility?  It's a great addition to TCR. 

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Re: [Texascavers] Road-trip ??

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

David, I will personally pledge $25 if you realize this is a senseless, 
foolhardy adventure and just stay home. 

Jim Kennedy

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> On Jul 15, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> David,
>  
> I’m willing to pledge $20 to help with your travel expenses to have you 
> attend the Howdy Party at the NSS Convention. I’ll also buy you a beer at the 
> party (food and beer are part of registration for the event). I figure it is 
> worth the money to read you posts related to your travel to Nevada. You know 
> that gambling and prostitution are legal in Nevada.  
>  
> Maybe we should treat this like a Texas Caver crowd source funding and if 
> other chipped in some bucks, we might be able to help with a significant cost 
> for your trip. Some folks may be interested in chipping in just to get you 
> out of Texas for a while  LOL.
>  
> Geary
>  
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> David via Texascavers
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 11:25 AM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Road-trip ??
>  
> There is a 4 % chance I am leaving Houston tonight ( Friday ) and driving to 
> Vegas in my new 2008 Sequoia SUV.
> 
> I am tentatively offering a one-way ride to Vegas as I pass thru Austin or 
> San Antonio.   I have room for 3 people.
> 
> Waiting on my jerk customers to pay me, before I can commit.
> 
> Not planning on making it to Ely unless stars suddenly line up in a divine 
> miraculous way, meaning 3 supernovas would have to suddenly appear forming a 
> perfect Equilateral Triangle bright above the western horizon.
> 
> David Locklear
> 281-995-8487 ( text-line )
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Re: [Texascavers] Information

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Daniel, 
Check your NSS Members Manual. It's one of the great, often-overlooked benefits 
of being a member. 

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> On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Caver via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> To all
> I didn't think of it before I came but I'm in California. I tried to contact 
> a person via email from a grotto in Fresno. But haven't heard anything back 
> and it's been about 4 days. I would like to do a little caving while I'm 
> here. Will be here for another week and a half. Do any of you know of a 
> contact person around the Fresno area that is a caver? Preferably driving 
> distance. Or even a list of great hiking day trips. 
> Any help is appreciated. 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel Ramirez
> (Formerly DFW grotto)
> 
> P.S. 
> I should attend one of the Bexar grotto meetings at some point since that's 
> the closest one to where I live now. 3-4 hr drive. 
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Re: [Texascavers] Inner Space Caverns

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It was actually "Laubach."

Crash. 

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> On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sam Young via Texascavers 
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> 
> David Locklear Said: "Inner Space was Laughbach cave when I first went in. 
> You had to go down a vent pipe of some sort."
> 
> Yes, but before it was Laughbach cave, it was just called "Core Hole Cave".  
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Re: [Texascavers] Locklear

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Finally, something we can all relate to. 

Jim
> In summary, I do not know what the heck I am talking about.
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Re: [Texascavers] Zika

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Damn, I wish people would remember to sign their emails. I would like to know 
who posted all this good information. 

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> 
> Just to provide a different perspective, only 1 in 5 even know have Zika 
> related illness when they are exposed.  It's not 'spiraling out of control' - 
> it's new to North America, yes. It's likely one of many illnesses that go 
> through populations and become part of the infectious tapestry that we all 
> live in. Is anyone reading alarmist articles about Heartland virus or Lone 
> Star fever?
> 
> Guillan-Barre syndrome is secondary to number of viruses, it's nothing 
> specific to Zika. 
> 
> Microcephaly is seen in population in general, only about 1 in 100 mothers 
> infected with Zika are affected. For comparison, about 40k people die in 
> traffic accidents a year in brazil, 40K in US, 200K in India. Malaria kills 1 
> million people a year. 
> 
> RK
> 
> See http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/305163.php
> Symptoms of Zika virus
> 
> Signs and symptoms of Zika virus are vague and can last for up to a week. 
> Diagnosis of the virus is typically confirmed with a blood test.1 
> Symptoms of Zika virus include:1,2 
> Fever
> Rash
> Joint pain
> Conjunctivitis (red eyes)
> Muscle pain
> Headache
> Pain behind the eyes
> Vomiting.
> According to the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), only 1 in 4 people 
> infected with Zika virus develop symptoms.5 In contrast, the CDC state the 
> figure is 1 in 5. 
> In the past, there have also been reports of patients developing 
> Guillain-Barré syndrome following a Zika virus infection. Guillain-Barré 
> syndrome is a rare but serious autoimmune disorder that affects the central 
> nervous system.6 
> Infection with the Zika virus is rarely severe enough to warrant 
> hospitalization, and it is rarer still for an individual to die as a result.6 
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Re: [Texascavers] Best padlocks for cave gates

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Travis,

Having been involved with dozens (maybe hundreds) of cave gates around the 
country, I recommend brass Best locks. And stay away from any rubberized locks, 
they aren't any better and usually cost more. Lubricate with powdered graphite 
only, no oil or WD40 or such. And change out the locks periodically, especially 
in wet, muddy, or dusty situations.

Despite what what Mixon espouses, cave resources are definitely worth 
protecting, and arguably more valuable than my house and possessions. Those can 
be replaced. That's why the old NSS "Cave Gating" book and it's "weak link" 
philosophy of gating are obsolete. For a more up-to-date approach, check out 
the cave gate chapter in NSS' "Cave Conservation and Restoration" book. All 
this, of course, assumes a well-designed and constructed gate. A poor gate can 
have entirely the opposite effect, and cause more problems than it solves. 

All it takes is one jerk to ruin things forever. The Butterfly at Caverns of 
Sonora is a prime example. 

Jim

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> On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Travis Scott via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I have recently been struggling with the padlocks on cave gates that have 
> become corroded and basically unusable.  Even brand new padlocks that were 
> placed on the gate and left for a few years are becoming unusable.  These 
> gates are designed with an arm hole which allows you to reach the padlock 
> hanging on the inside of a solid gate. Once the padlock is removed, a lever 
> is moved and the gate opens. The problem is that the padlocks sit in the wet 
> warm environment (sometimes years at a time) collecting dust, dirt and 
> corrosion as air moves past due to the cave breathing. Several locks have 
> recently taken over an hour to open whilst in the most uncomfortable 
> positions, meanwhile with the fear that the key might break off in the lock 
> or the lock will never open, etc..
> 
> I am wondering if anyone has had the experience or research to whittle down 
> the best types of locks that can handle this environment and still continue 
> to function properly. I have researched corrosion aspects of different 
> tumblers (no real conclusion on which is best). Other cavers have told me 
> that the locks with the rubber housing around the entire lock, including the 
> key hole, are no better than a normal Masterlock for example. We have tried 
> both the most expensive locks and the cheaper ones, but none seem to hold up.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with this or have any light they can shed?
>  
> Thank you so very much!!!
>  
>  
> Travis Scott
> tra...@oztotl.com
> 979.450.0103 (cell)
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Re: [Texascavers] school kids at TSA Spring Convention

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Cool, thanks!  Keep trying!

Jim

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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> Crash
> I talked to the schools and let them know. I don't know if there was any 
> excitement. These are really back water schools. A teacher friend says these 
> two schools are really very dumb. Sorry but I tried. Will keep after it.
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[Texascavers] Rolling Oaks Cave Preserve workday

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Posted for Ellie Falgout:

We're having another volunteer work day at Rolling Oaks Cave Preserve in Bexar 
County (northwest San Antonio) on Saturday, May 28th at 10am.  The main 
purposes are to clean up the grounds (trash and branches) and to continue the 
dig at Niche Cave, which is full of old farm trash and sediment that is washing 
in.  We need people, buckets, & shovels.  Bring your own drinks and snacks for 
the work.  TCMA will provide bottled water, bananas and light lunch.  The cave 
preserve is located at 224 Laurel Ridge Lane, San Antonio, TX 78253.  All 
visitors to the Preserve will be asked to sign a liability waiver. Meet at 
10:00 am.  Bring your own cave gear if you wish to enter any of the four 
Preserve caves after the dig.

I can be reached at 509-899-0007 or ellie.tho...@gmail.com in case any one gets 
lost, or if you would like coordinate more details. No need to RSVP if you are 
attending, just show up! Trip will be canceled in the event of rain.
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[Texascavers] Spring Convention registration now open!

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

The 2016 TSA Spring Convention website is now live, and you can register now 
for price cheaper than the past two years. If you procrastinate and register on 
site, it will be substantially more. Go to http://convention.cavetexas.org/ 
now, don't delay!
Webmaster Quast and Treasurer Peña deserve tons of credit for pulling this all 
together. 

Jim Kennedy
TSA Vice-Chair and
2016 Convention coordinator

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[Texascavers] Shiner donation

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Looking for a volunteer to stop by Shiner on their way to Rocksprings on 22 
April to pick up their donations. You know of which I am speaking. Contact me 
offlist if interested and able. 

Jim Kennedy
TSA Vice Chair
512-663-2287
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p.s. I'm I'm Mexico until the 24th, but I have intermittent internet access. 

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Re: [Texascavers] [BexarGrotto] It is done- a Honey Creek update.

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

I would love to see this written up in The TEXAS CAVER!

Crash

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> On Mar 8, 2016, at 11:21 AM, A. Wertheim  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: "A. Wertheim"  
> Date: 03/07/2016 10:40 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: Victoria Sommers  
> Subject: It is done- a Honey Creek update. 
> 
> Well friends, the Honey Creek road repair project is finished.  The road to 
> the shaft entrance has never been better and will probably never be as good 
> again.  Team “Go Big Or Go Home” brought their best game in a road-working 
> tour-de-force and not only repaired Joyce’s damaged road but made it useable 
> for many years to come.  All the stops were pulled out to make this project a 
> success. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Here’s the rundown:
> 
>  
> 
> Volunteers:
> 
> Tim Ramon-Project Leader
> 
> 8!, count-em, 8! of Tim’s employees volunteered to help on a Saturday.
> 
> Kim Freund-Food and 
> drinks for a lot of hungry, dusty men
> 
> Kurt Menking-Equipment 
> operator, planning, organization, landowner relations
> 
> Arron Wertheim-  That’s me.  I got to 
> run some equipment and swing a chainsaw.
> 
> Victoria Sommers-Photo documentation, 
> lunch
> 
> Robert Bissett-  Equipment 
> operator, fundraising, organization
> 
> Gregg “Breaks Thumbs” Williams  Fundraising
> 
>  
> 
> Equipment:
> 
> (Courtesy of Ramon & Sons Demolition, Inc.)
> 
> Case Backhoe
> 
> Case Compact Track Loader
> 
> Takeuchi Compact Track Loader
> 
> 68000lb Kenilworth roll-off truck with a 20 YARD dump box
> 
> 500 gallon Water Buffalo
> 
> Trucks, Trailers
> 
> Replacement drain pipes
> 
> Replacement gate posts donated for future installation
> 
>  
> 
> (Courtesy of  BCI & Bracken Bat Cave)
> 
> 8000lb Tandem Dump Trailer
> 
>  
> 
> Funding:
> 
> Bexar Grotto
> 
> TCMA
> 
> TSA
> 
> Mr. Jerry Atkinson
> 
> Mr. Joe Ranzou
> 
> Mr. Greg Passmore
> 
> Greater Houston Grotto
> 
> TCR
> 
>  
> 
> Project Timeline:
> 
> Saturday and Sunday, March 5 & 6 2016 with good weather. 
> 
>  
> 
> Project Plan and Action:
> 
>  
> 
> The original plan was to rent a couple skidsteers and borrow the dump trailer 
> from Bracken to patch the road.  When Tim volunteered to help out and review 
> the project, it quickly became apparent that almost a mile of damaged road 
> would take a lot more time and effort than a couple Bobcats would be able to 
> handle.  The heavy fall rains had made the road damage more pronounced.  
> Beers would be spilled trying to drive it.  Unacceptable.  Several different 
> repair options were discussed and a final few were selected based on the 
> value of this work and on reasonable fundraising expectations.  It’s a ranch 
> road, not paved access; and while it was damaged during a rainy caving trip, 
> it also had not been properly maintained since it was originally built.  
> Ultimately a backhoe, skidsteer, and bumper-pull dump trailer were decided on 
> with expected costs of up to $1400/1500. 
> 
>  
> 
> When Kurt and I showed up Saturday morning there was A LOT more equipment 
> than expected, men in orange vests, traffic cones, a low-boy trailer, and 
> tons of things going on.  Tim had taken a second look at the project scope 
> and confirmed his initial thoughts that to get the work done in one weekend 
> we needed to go big or go home.  He asked one of his crew to help out on a 
> Saturday and that quickly grew to 8 hard-working men in steel-toe workboots, 
> hardhats, and safety vests doing what they do best. 
> 
>  
> 
> Tim’s guys worked till 5:00 on Saturday and moved enough material to re-pack 
> the whole road.  A 20-yard dump truck can load a ridiculous amount of 
> material.  The box is 23ftx8ftx4.5ft.  Caliche weighs 2430.57 lbs/cubic yard. 
> That is 48611 pounds of material per load  (as an engineer I just had to 
> know.)  A Bobcat has a ½ yard bucket.  The dump trailer can load 4 yards.  
> Anyways, watching the driver gently back that loaded roll-on behemoth between 
> oak trees without so much as a nick to the bark or a snapped twig was 
> amazing.  Joyce had been adamant about protecting her oak trees.  Well, 
> without the 20-yard dump truck and experienced equipment operators this would 
> probably have been a 2 or 3 weekend project with additional rental and 
> transport costs.
> 
>  
> 
> Kurt and Rob ran the Bracken dump trailer loaded to the max until its 
> hydraulics whined in tired complaint.  When the dumper decided to take a dump 
> from being overloaded, we grabbed shovels and unloaded it by hand.  Short 
> loads only after that!  When it had to be lifted by the track loader to dump 
> we knew it 

Re: [Texascavers] Spring TSA meeting

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Folks, please belay any previous announcements about the TSA Spring Convention. 
They are premature. We do not yet have confirmation on the dates or the site 
yet. But if all goes as planned, it will be the dates and site mentioned. 
Believe me, after the first of the year you will be inundated with my big media 
blitz promoting said event. 

Jim "Crash" Kennedy
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and TSA Spring Convention Coordinator

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> On Dec 8, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Has a date for the spring TSA meeting been set yet.
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[Texascavers] Party next Saturday

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Sure, we all know by now that the Austin caver Hallowen party is at Drew 
Thompson's house tomorrow evening. But don't forget that the all-cavers-invited 
Batty Baby Shower is at our house the following Saturday, starting around 2 in 
the afternoon. Potluck. We'll likely have a keg, but other contributions 
welcome. Pray for good weather, although we'll put up a big white canopy just 
in case. Call if you need directions or more info. And no, we won't know the 
baby's sex until it arrives in mid-January. 

Jim Kennedy
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Re: [Texascavers] historic posting

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

If you are on Facebook, another good place is the Texas Speleological Survey 
page. You can even start your own photo album there. 

Jim Kennedy
TSS office manager

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> On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> Sure, why not. Be interesting to see what you have.
> 
> Jerry.
> jerryat...@aol.com
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Greg Passmore via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have  bunch of historic caving articles, photos, etc.  Is this list an 
>> appropriate place to post these or should we start up a texas caving history 
>> list?
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Re: [Texascavers] Punkin Cave Photo

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Dave Bunnell. 

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
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> Anybody know who took that very nice but uncredited photo of Punkin Cave that 
> is in the September NSS News? -- Mixon
> 
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> capable of doing before all the world.
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Re: [Texascavers] Bat Research Associate Position Announcement

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Sounds like it should pay twice what it does. 

Crash

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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:43 PM, via Texascavers  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a good job for crash 
> 
> Galen Falgout
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Ellie Falgout via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bat Research Associate Position Announcement
>> 
>> Position Title: Research Associate, Bat Ecology and WNS
>> 
>> Hiring Unit: Texas A Institute of Renewable Natural Resources
>> 
>> Job Type: Full-Time
>> 
>> Salary: $36,000, State of Texas benefits, TRS retirement
>> 
>> Pay Basis: Salaried, monthly
>> 
>> Location: Various Statewide
>> 
>> Major/Essential Duties: In close coordination with Principal Investigators, 
>> implement a field study on the distribution, abundance, and roost use of 
>> bats across Texas with emphasis on the northern and north-eastern portions 
>> of the state adjacent to Oklahoma. The study goal is to obtain data prior to 
>> the arrival of White Nose Syndrome (WNS) in the study areas. Responsible for 
>> coordinating activities with state and federal agencies, as well as private 
>> organizations; hiring and training field crew; managing budgets; collecting 
>> and processing data; data analyses and report preparation; working closely 
>> with private landowners.
>> 
>> Occasional Duties: Actively communicate research results in peer-reviewed 
>> journals; make presentations at various public and scientific meetings. 
>> Perform other project-related duties as necessary.
>> 
>> Required Education: MS in wildlife science, biology/zoology, ecology, or 
>> closely related fields. Individuals holding a Ph.D. are also encouraged to 
>> apply. Possibility exists for MS degree holding individual to obtain Ph.D. 
>> as part of the project.
>> 
>> Required Experience: Direct, independent field experience with bats 
>> including capture and handling using standard techniques. Also required is 
>> experience in hiring and managing field crews, working with government 
>> agencies and private organizations, handling data sets, performing 
>> statistical analyses, and preparing reports.
>> 
>> Preferred Experience: Previous involvement with bat studies of WNS. Working 
>> knowledge of GIS systems such as ArcGIS.
>> 
>> Required licenses: Valid and current drivers license.
>> 
>> Special Knowledge: Protocols involving WNS for handling bats.
>> 
>> To apply: The following material must be contained in a single pdf file that 
>> is titled with your last and first name (e.g., Smith, Mary): Cover letter 
>> that is responsive to the position requirements; Resume; List of references 
>> with current email and phone number; and university transcripts (unofficial 
>> scan requested). Please email to Dr. Michael Morrison at 
>> mlmorri...@tamu.edu. The position start date is negotiable but applicants 
>> must be able to start by early November; earlier starting dates are 
>> encouraged. The position will remain open until filled, and applications 
>> will be reviewed as they are received. Please direct any questions to Dr. 
>> Morison’s email address. 
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Re: [Texascavers] used sheet metal roofing up for grabs

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Me, please!  At least some of it. I'm siding the garage. I can get it tomorrow. 

Jim

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 I have ~1500 sq ft of used sheet-metal roofing for whoever wants it. It is in 
 galvanized sheets 14 by 3 feet, not rusty. Could be used for privacy fence, 
 shed or barn walls, or even roofing if screw holes plugged or reused. Could 
 be hauled on my trailer to destination in Austin area. Contact me off list 
 (address below). -- Mixon
 
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[Texascavers] PSA, houses available in south Austin caver neighborhood

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

http://m.trulia.com/property/3202651414-403-Gate-Tree-Ln-Austin-TX-78745

http://m.trulia.com/property/3201825100-402-Heartwood-Dr-Austin-TX-78745

http://m.trulia.com/property/3201821345-5101-Creekline-Dr-Austin-TX-78745

And one for lease:

http://www.austintexashomes.com/real-estate/Austin-Texas-MLS/Rental/property/4177948-405-Arbor-Ln-Austin-TX-78745/

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Re: [Texascavers] GHG Minutes from April 21, 2015

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Thanks for the excellent minutes, Holly. But I am only the auctioneer, not MC. 

Crash

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 The GHG Minutes from April 21, 2015 are attached.
 
 Holly Weinstock
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 Minutes of GHG mtg 4-21-15.docx
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Re: [Texascavers] Charlie Loving

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Which Ron?  It always helps to sign your full name. CaveTex does not always 
tell you who sent the email. 

Jim Kennedy

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 Please send contact information as my computer crashed and I am trying to 
 rebuild.
  
 Ron
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Re: [Texascavers] off topic: Pi day

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

We ate freshly-butchered pig. 

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 On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
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 Guess I'm a nerd, we celebrated today by eating Pie :)
 
 On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Amen Stef!
 
 Celebrating Pi day is for nerds!
 
 Back to work
 
 El mar 13, 2015 11:58 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com escribió:
 
 Well with this dodgy calendar you have...
 
 As far as i can tell it's 14.3.15:
 
 -Stefan
 
 From: Texascavers [texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Logan 
 McNatt via Texascavers [texascavers@texascavers.com]
 Sent: 13 March 2015 22:55
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] off topic: Pi day
 
 Thanks for the alert, Bill. I will try to remember to celebrate the
 exact moments, but the party won't last long.
 
 On 3/13/2015 6:57 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote:
  Tomorrow will be the pi moments of the century, 3/14/15 at 9:26:53 a.m.
  or p.m. Who's having a p.m. party to celebrate? -- Mixon
 
  (Actually 
  9:26:53.58979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628\
  6208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359\
  4081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659\
  3344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034861045432664821339\
  3607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892\
  5903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094330572703657595919530921\
  8611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301\
  19491... My computer finds 10,000,000 digits of pi in 52 seconds.)
  
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Re: [Texascavers] Ezell's Cave gate finished!

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Actually, after a 12 1/2 hour day, we didn't totally finish. We are heading 
back next Sunday for a few hours to complete the job. Great crew today. 
Everybody busted ass. But we had some delays from weather and some equipment 
issues, so we didn't make our deadline. 

Jim

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 Just called Ron Ralph. They are still at Ezell's Cave, loading up the trucks. 
 They finished the Ezell's Cave gate! They were supposed to start at 8 a.m 
 (DST), so they've had a very long hard day, in the rain.
 
 Details to come later from Ron and/or Jim Kennedy, I'm sure.
 
 Congratulations are due to everyone involved!
 
 Logan McNatt
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Re: [Texascavers] Bat Cave, Florida

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

I have been to Alachua Bat Cave, and was also appalled by the disastrous 
management actions that Sleaze so eloquently described. In fact, I use this 
site in my lectures as an example of what not to do. But Mixon is a little 
mistaken, as the cave is now owned by a junior college, not the government.  
And it's their lawyers that made it so. But we can't point the finger at 
non-cavers mismanaging caves when our own nearby NSS-owned Warrens Cave has one 
of the most atrocious gates that I have ever seen.  

Crash

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 On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Another example of why I always say never let a cave fall into the hands of a 
 government agency. -- Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: High School Field Trip to Deep Cave

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

The first step would be to clear it with the Preserve Manager. 

Jim

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 On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:19 PM, texascavers via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Anyone able to help these folks out?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mark A.
 
 
 Sent on a Virgin Mobile Samsung Galaxy S® III
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Mark Childre
 Date:02/10/2015 8:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
 To: youthcav...@cavetexas.org
 Cc: Geary Schindel , Don Arburn , Ben Thorp , Sonia Roach
 Subject: High School Field Trip to Deep Cave
 
 My name is Mark Childre and some may know me.  I’m planning a field trip with 
 three teenage high school students from Laredo.  We plan to visit Deep Cave 
 over Spring Break.  
 
 
 
 Our plans are to enter the cave on March 8.  Right now, I'm the only caver in 
 the bunch.  Two of the three have been in Robber Baron and did quite well.  I 
 was hoping that someone might volunteer to help.  If I get hurt in the cave 
 for some reason, I would need someone who could get us out --- and, hey, 
 there's the helectite room -ou!!!
 
 
 
 I have three:
 
 Nathan Thorp  16 yrs old
 Jose Cardenas   17 yrs old
 Terry Roach 17 yrs old
 I'll have all the paperwork giving permission and the medical releases, 
 similar to what I had when we visited Robber Baron.
 
 
 
 I've advertised on bexargro...@googlegroups.com but haven't had any 
 response yet.
 
 
 -- 
 Mark Childre
 Geology Instructor
 Department of Natural Sciences and Kinesiology
 Laredo Community College
 West End Washington Street
 Laredo, TX  78040
 
 markchil...@gmail.com
 mark.chil...@laredo.edu
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Re: [Texascavers] [BexarGrotto] NSS Board of Governors Meeting on March 7 in San Antonio

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Don't forget that March 8 is also the Ezells Cave gating project. NSS Directors 
are also invited to attend and assist. 

Crash

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 On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org 
 wrote:
 
 Folks,
  
 Here is the an outline of activities for the NSS Board of Governors Weekend. 
 The NSS Board Meeting will be held on March 7th, starting at 9 pm at Edwards 
 Aquifer Authority at 900 E. Quincy Street, San Antonio, Texas. The Edwards 
 Aquifer Authority is located on the north side of downtown near the 
 intersection of I-35 and I-10 and 281.
  
 Friday Social (March 6) will be at Kurt and Kitty Menking’s House starting 
 around 6 pm. This is a pot luck hosted by the Grotto. If you’re not a BOG 
 member, we ask that you please bring a dish. There will be drinks and food 
 available. The address is 8255 Bindseil Ln, San Antonio. You can reach Kurt 
 or Kitty at 210-325-5598. Look for blue address sign for 8255 and Aggie 
 maroon fence and gate. Driveway is a dirt road and the house is 1,000 feet 
 from Bindseil Lane. (Talk to Kitty about possible special roof excursions).
  
 Saturday BOG meeting (March 7) starts at 9 am. The Edwards Aquifer Authority 
 is located near I-35 and 281 on the north side of downtown. The address is 
 900 E. Quincy Street. Park in the front of the building (Parking off Quincy). 
 The front of the building will be open. My cell phone is 210.326.1576. The 
 grotto will be providing breakfast food, drinks, and lunch for the board. The 
 expected agenda for the first half of the meeting will be open and the second 
 half of the meeting will most likely be a closed session as the NSS Board of 
 Governors is voting on the NSS awards to be presented at the NSS Convention.
  
 Saturday Social (March 7) – There will be a Saturday night social starting 
 around 7:30 pm at Geary and Sue Schindel’s house located at 11310 Whisper 
 Dawn, San Antonio Texas. The phone number for the house is 210.479.2151. This 
 is a pot luck social with mostly finger food and some other eats. Please also 
 bring a dish. Some drinks will be provided but if you have a preference, 
 please bring your own.  (Stay off the roof).
  
 Monday Bexar Grotto Meeting (March 9) (7 pm on March 9th at Chester’s 
 Hamburgers located at 281 north and Mecca Drive). The program will be NSS 
 President Wm Shewsbury talking about the NSS. Meeting are open with dinner 
 and drinks on your own.
  
 Special Excursions.
  
 Please let me know if you are interested in any of the following:
  
 Friday Wine Tour of the Texas Hill Country (March 6)
 Arranged by Sue Schindel at 210-313-9976 cell or gschin...@mindspring.com 
 This will leave around 1:30 pm from San Antonio and will visit one or two 
 wineries. Depending upon the number of people interested, we may arrange 
 special transportation. We will be back in time for the party.

 Sunday Wine Tour of the Texas Hill Country (March 8)
 Arranged by Sue Schindel at 210-313-9976 cell or gschin...@mindspring.com 
 This will leave around 10 am and will visit two or three wineries. Depending 
 upon the number of people interested, we may arrange special transportation. 
 We will need to know your travel schedule but assume that you will be eating 
 lunch in the Texas Hill Country and will be back before dinner time. You may 
 be expected to help with transportation costs and wine and food will be on 
 your own.
  
 Sunday Caving (Gregg Williams) (March 8)
 We can arrange trips to a couple of caves in the area including Robber Baron 
 Cave in San Antonio (1 mile long maze cave), Spring Creek Cave (multi-mile 
 long wet suit cave), or a tour of some of the nearby Commercial Caves such as 
 Cave without a Name, Cascade Caverns, or Natural Bridge Caverns, or possible 
 visit to Bracken Bat Cave.  Please let us know if you’re interested in a 
 caving trip and we can arrange something according to your interests  and 
 skills.
  
 Please feel free to email me if you have any questions.
  
 Geary Schindel
  
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[Texascavers] Punkin Survey

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

There is a Punkin Cave survey trip planned for the last weekend in February 
(returning home March 1).  Contact me offlist for details or to sign up. 

Jim Kennedy
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver volume and issue numbers :

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Amen, sister!

Jim

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 On Feb 1, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Jerry via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Posted for Mimi Jasek:
  
 To All Current and Future Editors and Proofreaders of the Texas Caver:
 
 We really do have one of the finest caving magazines in the United States, 
 but I would like to try to make you aware of something that needs to be put 
 back on the Contents Page to make it complete, and to correct an error that 
 is being perpetuated. In the past this information has been either there or 
 on the combined Publication Data/Contents Page. There is plenty of room to 
 add a text box above the word Contents with this information, or if it 
 belongs on the Publication Data page, put it there. I would suggest checking 
 with Logan McNatt as to correct placement.
 
 The Texas Caver
 January - March, 2015
 Volume 61, Issue 1
 
 I put this in the format that would be for the first issue of 2015.  In many 
 past issues, also, rather than Vol and Issue being put on the cover, it was 
 simply the months involved.
 
 Correction that needs to be fixed:  The Volume number is for a whole year!  
 DO NOT increase this number with the isssue number increasement!  Please see 
 the wonderful spread sheet provided by Jerry Atkinson in his 11/13/14 post 
 about the Texas Caver Publication List. If you have never worked on a 
 magazine before, and have never paid attention to this, then this mistake can 
 be understandable. But if we are still sending out issues to libraries and 
 other important cave owner entities, this information matters. For all who 
 may still get their hard copies bound into yearly volumes, this also matters. 
  In 2014, the TC went from Vol 60 all the way to Vol 63, yet the whole year 
 is Volume 60.
 
 To many who see this post, this request will seem frivolous and totally 
 unimportant. But as someone who worked on the TC for untold years alongside 
 James Jasek to edit, type, proofread, correct, print, collate, address and 
 mail for any number of editors, besides working in a bookbinding company, 
 this information really matters. Design is completely individual as to the 
 editor of any magazine, but critical publication data is not, and is one of 
 those things - like proper page numbers for the articles within - that should 
 be carried forward from issue to issue for proper continuity.
 
 Sincerely, and with the best of nerdy, proofreading intentions,
 
 Mimi Jasek
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Re: [Texascavers] AMCS need filing cabinet

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

I have them in my garage right now if you want to pick them up before the 
meeting tonight. 

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 On Jan 21, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 The 5400 cataloged items in the Associations for Mexican Cave Studies paper 
 archives
 
 http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/archives.html
 
 have filled up three four-drawer file cabinets. I'd appreciate leads on one 
 or two more used file cabinets, preferably free. -- Mixon
 
 A fast runner gives a slower one a head start. The faster one can never catch 
 up, because he first has to pass the place the slower one has just left.
 
 You may reply to the address this message
 (unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
 came from, but for long-term use, save:
 Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
 AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Alcalde Article

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

That version is certainly better. But there is still that nonsense about the 
Underground Texas Grotto, which is a fictitious entity. 

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 On Jan 19, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Here's the editor's most recent email to me:
 
 Dear Heather,
 
 I have made the changes you noted, and I have added a prominent note up top 
 regarding the salamanders. Allow me to please apologize for the mistakes in 
 this article, and let me thank you for bringing them to our attention. We 
 have brought these inaccuracies to the reporter's attention, and he will be 
 getting a stern talking-to about checking his facts carefully. We take this 
 very seriously, and I regret that we let these errors make it through our 
 process.
 
 Would you be so good as to check my changes to make sure we are fully in the 
 clear? http://alcalde.texasexes.org/2014/12/notes-from-the-underground/
 
 Thank you again for reaching out to me. I hope this corrects the mistakes and 
 avoids any kind of complication for you professionally. If there is any way I 
 can be helpful to you in the future, please let me know.
 
 Apologetically yours,
 
 
 
 
 On 18 January 2015 at 22:17, Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org wrote:
 The Editor-in-Chief wrote back to me saying how upset he was to hear about 
 thus, and that he will be fixing it first thing in the morning. 
 
 
 -Tucek
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I wouldn't agree with that at all. They may get the dumbest thing you said 
 so why say dumb things. Dumb things are what we like to see on TV or read 
 about. Dumb is good. I love dumb movies and dumb stories. I thrive on dumb. 
 People forget everything minutes later so it doesn't matter much unless you 
 are running for emperor of aome such ad for gettng it right I always got it 
 right.
 
 On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, AC via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Heather, 
 
 Don't worry about it. The rules for dealing with the media are:
 
 1. They never get it right. 
 
 2. If they quote you, they always pick the stupidest thing you say (or 
 didn't say). 
 
 3. Most people forget the article as soon as they read it. 
 
 Allan
 
 Sent from my iPhone with fat thumbs
 
 On Jan 18, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread 
 how ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool 
 Cave? As if! Never did I even mention endangered anything!
 
 That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help 
 putting black marks on my name. Sheesh!
 
 
 
 -Tucek
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 17, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sam Young via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 This article appeared in the UT Alumni magazine, Alcalde.  ... Sam
  
 http://tinyurl.com/qx6mt8b
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 Go find out!
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Re: [Texascavers] Precipicio

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Nancy, 

No one said Bustamante is not available for cavers. And Precipicio was never 
part of our plan this year. Someday soon, though. 

Jim

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 On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Nancy Weaver via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 my favorite cave in northern Mexico.  a glorious wild beauty, tricky and so 
 worthwhile to get to.  spending the night in the upper level is worth the 
 effort of hauling bivouac gear.  and the lower section is one of the 
 loveliest, most decorated caves I know of.
 
 maybe its a blessing that bustamonte is not available for thanksgiving cagers.
 
 Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] Climbing device museum

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

The Texas Speleological Survey also has a modest museum of historic Texas and 
Mexico caving artifacts (artifacts from cavers, NOT from caves). Among our 
prizes are Michel Sifre's gear from his Beyond Time experiment in Midnight 
Cave. We always welcome more items from Texas caving history. 

Jim Kennedy
TSS Office Manager
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 On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com 
 wrote:
 
 Pete:
 
 I decided that the best place for my historic pieces of equipment is with 
 Garry Storrick.  Until the NSS has an adequate museum, I think Gary is the 
 best repository.  I am sure that, ultimately, they will go to the society.
 
 Dwight
 
 This is his entry (along with images) of my old climbing cam: (I cannot seem 
 to make his URL work this evening, although I have been there numerous times)
 
 Infernal Machine
 Ascender built by Dwight Deal
   
 http://storrick.cnc.net/VerticalDevicesPage/Ascender/LeverCamPages/T1LeverCam235.html
  
  The Infernal Machine is an important piece in the history of climbing cams 
 that ultimately led to the Gibbs Ascender. The first significant step was 
 when Robert Henshaw and David Morehouse developed the first widely-publicized 
 type-a lever cam ascender in 1965 (the Iowa Cams), and simultaneously 
 introduce a very awkward ropewalker system. Dwight Deal soon modified the 
 design, but used his Infernal Machine in a more traditional Jumar-type 
 climbing system. The Infernal Machine that Dwight gave me differs from his 
 published design (Baltimore Grotto News, VIII, 7, pp 168-173, reprinted in 
 the 1965 Speleo Digest) by having only two choices for the cam pivot, not 
 three. His initial design had a hole closer to the cam face (which would give 
 it a very large cam angle), but Dwight found that the ascender would slip 
 down the main line when using that hole. On the other hand, using the distant 
 hole (with its very small cam angle) provided so much gripping force that the 
 Infernal Machine would jam. Dwight's 1965 experiments (on 9 mm. nylon) showed 
 that the hole locations were quite critical: moving them as little as 1.5 mm. 
 parallel to the cam face would change the performance noticeably. This would 
 change the cam angle, and with a smooth cam, the cam angle is critical.
 
 Incidentally, SANDY R stamped on this ascender is Sandy Renstrom, later 
 Dwight's wife.
 
 
 From: Lindsley, Pete caverp...@gmail.com
 To: Jerry jerryat...@aol.com
 Cc: Kunath, Carl carl.kun...@suddenlink.net, McNatt, Logan 
 lmcn...@austin.rr.com, 2 - Dwight on COMCAST dirt...@comcast.net
 Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:37:26 PM
 Subject: Re: Tom Warden's early efforts to create a new ascending device :
 
 I had completely forgotten about this device. I don't recall ever seeing one, 
 and I don't recall if this was ever published. But it's a gem when you look 
 back on this from today's viewpoint.
 
 I recall making some cams just after Dwight made some based, I think on a PA 
 design, and each iteration actually worked better than the previous version. 
 These cams ultimately became the Gibbs design. Is there a caver museum for 
 this old equipment? I have several old devices that we tried building back in 
 the 60s.
 
  - Pete
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[Texascavers] Free Firewood

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Gill has a large quantity of seasoned split firewood available to any taker. 
It's generally short lengths, perfect for backyard firepits, chimineas, and 
saunas. Must pick up at Gill's. Contact him for details. This has been a public 
service announcement. 

Crash

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Not polite to ask him about his dental problems. 

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 On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Jill
 
 How did the cave trip go. I saw your pictures on facebook but we need a short 
 trip repot.
 
 Also, how is the plaque coming along.
 
 Geary
 
 Sent from Surface Pro
 
 From: Texas Cavers
 Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎October‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎5‎:‎24‎ ‎PM
 To: Texas Cavers
 
 The Texas Caver online issue is up.
  
 And now there is also an eBook  version!  However since neither I or the TSA 
 webmaster own a Nook or tablet, and I haven’t gotten around to downloading a 
 digital book ap, I’m depending on readers with the capability for feedback.
 Thanks!
  
 image003.png
 jill orr
 210.399.6762
 jillorr.businesscatalyst.com
  
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

That's only during Spring Convention.  Sorry, Fritz. 

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 On Oct 9, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Jim,
 Is there actually going to be an auction at TCR this year such as is held at 
 the convention?
 Fritz Holt
 fritz...@gmail.com
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Not polite to ask him about his dental problems. 
 
 Mobile email from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Jill
 
 How did the cave trip go. I saw your pictures on facebook but we need a 
 short trip repot.
 
 Also, how is the plaque coming along.
 
 Geary
 
 Sent from Surface Pro
 
 From: Texas Cavers
 Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎October‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎5‎:‎24‎ ‎PM
 To: Texas Cavers
 
 The Texas Caver online issue is up.
  
 And now there is also an eBook  version!  However since neither I or the 
 TSA webmaster own a Nook or tablet, and I haven’t gotten around to 
 downloading a digital book ap, I’m depending on readers with the capability 
 for feedback.
 Thanks!
  
 image003.png
 jill orr
 210.399.6762
 jillorr.businesscatalyst.com
  
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Charlie,

OTR is where it has always been, in West Virginia. However TCR, the Texas 
Cavers Reunion, is this weekend, Thursday through Sunday. There have been 
numerous announcements on CaveTex and Facebook to let you know that this year 
it is at the Guadalupe River RV Park and Campground in Spring Branch on Highway 
281. And the food is excellent. 

Jim Crash Kennedy

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 On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
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 Finally figured out where it is. My Spring Branch is near Houston. What 
 exactly is the schedule? Is it a Friday affair or a Saturday affair? I have 
 given up camping and don't have a camper or any of that falderal. I have 
 missed the past four or five OTRs and wanted to attend but may miss out 
 again. Maybe I will come by for a visit on Friday.
 
 Charlie Loving
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Re: [Texascavers] Bats, Trees and Turbines

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Yes Stef. Really. 

Crash

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 On Oct 1, 2014, at 3:21 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
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 Hundreds and thousands? Really?
 
 -Stefan
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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Sheryl,

It's not a simple problem with an easy solution. There has been a whole lot of 
research regarding bats and wind turbines. An excellent source of information 
is www.batsandwind.org

Jim Kennedy, the bat guy
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 On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that 
 consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are 
 and I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts 
 discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I would 
 like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers from the 
 turbines. 
 
 Sheryl Rieck
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[Texascavers] Ropes for TCR

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

G'afternoon, cavers!  Highline ropes will once again be at TCR, as promised. 
I'm currently taking orders for 11mm, 10mm, and 9mm ropes up to 1200 feet in 
length. Payment will be due upon pickup at TCR. 10 and 11 are 50 cents per foot 
and 9 is 40 cents. Contact me offlist in the next week or so in order for me to 
ensure your rope will arrive on time. Thanks !

Jim Kennedy
cavercr...@gmail.com
512-663-2287

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Re: [Texascavers] Mertens Ranch dig trip

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Saturday is fine!  I'll and details within a day or so. 

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 On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers 
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 Jim,
  
 I’d like to come out on Saturday, but can’t make it Sunday.
  
 Kurt
  
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Crash Kennedy via Texascavers
 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:55 PM
 To: CaveTex
 Subject: [Texascavers] Mertens Ranch dig trip
  
 If anyone is not going on the Deep Cave survey trip this coming weekend and 
 would like to join us on a very promising dig adjacent to Guadalupe River 
 State Park (and projected to intersect a very long and famous water cave), 
 contact me offlist.  We still have a couple of open spots.  Details will be 
 sent upon confirmation of participants.  Breakthrough is imminent!
 
 Crash
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR is almost here!!!

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Super HEROES and super villains!

Crash

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 The theme this year isSuper Villains so keep up with the event page
 for costume ideas. 
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Re: [Texascavers] Border militia confronts bat researchers

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

Yes. 

- Crash

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 On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Anybody know anyone involved in this?
 Border militia confronts bat researchers
 
 Posted: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 7:26 am
 By Jonathan Clark
 Nogales International 
 
 A group of heavily armed militiamen confronted a team of scientists who had 
 been studying bats in a cave near Sonoita  last week, apparently mistaking 
 them for illegal border-crossers or drug-smugglers.
 
 No one was hurt during the late-night encounter in the Gardner Canyon area, 
 but the incident highlights the potential for trouble when citizens take up 
 arms in hopes of defending the U.S.-Mexico border.
 
 U.S. Customs and Border Protection “does not endorse or support any private 
 group or organization to take border security matters into their own hands 
 as it could have disastrous personal and public safety consequences” the 
 agency said in a statement.
 
 The confrontation near Sonoita began at approximately 11 p.m. on Aug. 23, 
 according to a report given by one of the scientists to a Santa Cruz County 
 Sheriff’s deputy. The team of three researchers had been counting bats in 
 Onyx Cave, and as they began walking back to their campsite near Gardner 
 Canyon Road, they were flashed with a spotlight by a group of men.
 
 The men reportedly began shouting at the  scientists in Spanish, and 
 identified themselves as a militia group protecting the U.S.-Mexico border. 
 The scientists identified themselves and continued to walk to their campsite 
 “while seeking cover,” according to the deputy’s report.
 
 When they arrived at their campsite, they were again approached by the 
 militiamen, who pulled up on an ATV while carrying a shotgun and wearing 
 camouflage clothing. This time the militiamen were apologetic, but the 
 reporting scientist told the deputy he still cursed them out and let them 
 know how they had made him and his colleagues feel.
 
 The researchers said they weren’t directly threatened by the militiamen and 
 did not see any weapons pointed at them. Still, the reporting person 
 described the encounter as “aggressive” and said he was concerned for the 
 safety of other people who were camping in the area. He said he saw three 
 militia members, but suspected there were more.
 
 The report was made the afternoon after the encounter, and the deputy took 
 no additional action on the matter. “Border Patrol had already dealt with 
 the situation,” said Sheriff’s Lt. Raoul Rodriguez.
 
 Border Patrol agents from the Sonoita Station had arrived at the scientists’ 
 campsite during the incident after having been contacted by the militia 
 group. An agent contacted later by the investigating deputy reportedly 
 described the militiamen as “heavily armed,” even more so than the agent.
 
 Neither the Border Patrol nor Sheriff’s Office could provide details about 
 the militiamen, other than that they claimed to be from Colorado.
 
 In a brief statement from the Border Patrol’s Tucson Sector, the agency said 
 it received a phone call from a member of a militia group reporting 
 suspicious activity near Sonoita at about 10 p.m. on Aug. 23.
 
 “Sonoita station agents responded and encountered a small group of 
 biologists studying bats,” it said.
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [anonimity]

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

PLEASE sign your posts!

Crash
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Re: [Texascavers] bat bridges

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

The whole idea of making highways compatible with wildlife is pretty new. The 
Europeans and Canadians are way ahead of in those areas. I have seen a couple 
of presentations indicating really high success rates when done right. Of 
course, there is a monetary cost to protecting wildlife. Doing good doesn't 
come cheaply. 

Jim

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 On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Josh Rubinstein kars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nice articles Crash.  
 
 From the BBC post it is hard to visualize what these bridges will look 
 like.  Any ideas?  
 
 Has this or something similar been tried before?  How effective is it?
 
 Josh
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Re: [Texascavers] GPS recommendation?

[Jim Kennedy via Texascavers]

A sexton is an officer of a church, congregation, or synagogue charged with the 
maintenance of its buildings and/or the surrounding graveyard. In smaller 
places of worship, this office is often combined with that of verger. In larger 
buildings, such as cathedrals, a team of sextons may be employed.

A sextant is an instrument used to measure the angle between any two visible 
objects. Its primary use is to determine the angle between a celestial object 
and the horizon which is known as the object's altitude.

[Wikipedia]

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 On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
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 Get a compas and a sexton so you won't have to be beholding to magic in the 
 sky.
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