Re: [iyer123] GAYA SRARDHA – REG
Dear shri Sundararaman Vedic proyogams are constant; but sankalpam to pillayar by iyer may be different to vaishna vism. Its a long reply Let me try later Thank you K R IRS 18521 On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 13:28, Sundar Raman wrote: > Respected Sirs ! > > Is there a difference between Iyer's Shraddham method v/s Iyengar's > Shraddham's method ? apologies if my question hurts anybody's sentiments. > > Please clarify and if by any chance if you have complete procedure to > start performing Iyer's Shraddham, from the basic steps, kindly share it, > would be very helpful. > > Thanks, > Sundar. > > > On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 7:01 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> *GAYA SRARDHA – REG* Dear friends, I have read the full link given by >> Sri Rajaram IRS which is a question answer between me and TRS Iyengar who >> is a sastrikal in Mattunga and *owning a website during 2007 or so, >> forwarded to me by Sri Narayanaswamy. * *The part regarding Gaya srardha >> I reproduce below.* *In your one earlier query I had clarified already >> the following points which I may add here too for the benefit of visitors:* >> >> 1. Gaya sraadha is equivalent to performing *60 annual sraadhas.* >> >> 2. After Gaya sraadha, conducting sraadha should not be discontinued. >> *Continuing >> sraadha will surely feed Jnatha Anjatha pithrus * >> >> *If our pithrus have gone to their destinations. It adds to punniabalam*. >> >> There are even persons perform *sraadha for Jnatha anjatha pithrus too >> for punniam*. >> >> I hope this reply is elaborate as you desired. >> >> >> >> Some important QA from the link I reproduce below:- >> >> Q7. Sir Do our pithru reach swarga? >> >> A7. Why doubt? The ultimate destination being Kailasam aka Paramapadam, >> the souls wander from one location to other, depending on their merits >> and punya bhalam. They reach their destinations by various steps; >> pithrulokam, devalokam, etc. The actual paramapatham, Srivaikuntham or >> kailasam are one and the same as per the philosophical readings. >> >> *Q14. Sir, I know there are different types of sraadhas. There is Atma >> pinda sraadha with special manthra too. My question sir, who are advised to >> perform Jala srradha and Hiranya sraadha?* >> >> A14. Hiranaya sraadha I have already replied. However *I will give one >> more clarification and express the srardha niyama as explained by my >> distant cousin, late Sri Mukkur Lakshminarasimhachariar, (who was very >> popular for his divine writings in many periodicals, very specifically for >> an article series in Kalki “Kurai Onrum IlRlai Govinda”) has given some >> hints on the Srardha procedures*. >> >> He even wrote an article in one of the Kalki Deepavali supplement and I >> give the contents here below for the readers to take a note. *The >> Srardha niyama in three different types with each having values on Uthama, >> Madhima & Athama paksha* >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Gopala Krishnan 16-5-2021 >> >> *Respected Sri Rajaram IRS* >> >> With at most respect you I am writing the following:- >> >> I had written in my posting Divine information part 7 one can perform >> srardha on the thithi day invoking *only jnatha Anjatha pithrus*. If >> sasthrikal recite manthra invoking only jnatha Anjatha pithrus, one can >> perform srardha *without pithruvaranam. * >> >> Regarding different types of srardhas, he is referring to his cousin’s >> book of *different type of practices in SriVaishanvam. You just see the >> title Srivaishnavam practices in web page.* >> >> An Iyengar worship only in Sri Vishnu temples (exemptions are there). >> Their practices are different from ours. >> >> He has told in a correspondence to me if pithruvaram is done, *with >> hesitation our pithru comes from Devaloka, accept the offerings and give to >> Jnatha Anjatha pithrus.* >> >> You can correspond with TRS iyengar and ask whether he has written to me >> so. *I lost old files.* Or else I could have produced. >> >> Kindly read my postings fully. Above all he is a sasthrikal. He is not >> the ultimate authority. He know few things which he replied. Another >> sasthrikal may have different view. >> >> *Kindly note- It is Sri Vaishnavam practices.* >> >> What is quoted from his cousin is not his view. Hiranya sradham goes to >> the lowest category. Now not having Brahmins even for Hiranya sradham is >> the case in Kerala. >> >
Re: GAYA SRARDHA – REG
done my article on that gets it back; i use the web for the Geetha; orelse I can also type the sanskrit and copy and paste my own also!. many upanishads I had typed and pasted too. So I am not jibing at any one and I do not have any ego. I do not boast about anything unless some occasion arose. For example when Mr TNCR wrote about his friend at Teppakulam st TVL, i remembered my father in law and my tenure there. When am ember asked from where I said from my prize books as i have a lot of them given to me for my academics in 50s and 70s. And if its in the net I copy and paste or else I shall type. COPY and paste like your alone is to be developed further. It is harsh sir but you have to consume it or send it to BIN as your choice. Personally as Narayanasamy unknown I have no grudge not only you but with any one. Have a nice day KR IRS 17521 On Sun, 16 May 2021 at 19:01, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty wrote: GAYA SRARDHA – REG Dear friends, I have read the full link given by Sri Rajaram IRS which isa question answer between me and TRS Iyengar who is a sastrikal in Mattunga andowning a website during2007 or so, forwardedto me by SriNarayanaswamy. The part regarding Gaya srardha I reproduce below. In your one earlier query I had clarified already the followingpoints which I may add here too for the benefit of visitors: 1.Gaya sraadha is equivalent to performing 60 annual sraadhas. 2.After Gaya sraadha, conducting sraadha should not be discontinued. Continuing sraadha will surely feed Jnatha Anjathapithrus If our pithrus have gone to their destinations. It addsto punniabalam. Thereare even persons perform sraadhafor Jnatha anjatha pithrus too for punniam. Ihope this reply is elaborate as you desired. Some important QA from the link I reproduce below:- Q7. Sir Do our pithru reachswarga? A7. Why doubt? The ultimatedestination being Kailasam aka Paramapadam, the souls wander from one location to other, depending on theirmerits and punya bhalam. They reach their destinations by varioussteps; pithrulokam, devalokam, etc. The actual paramapatham, Srivaikuntham or kailasam are one and the same as per the philosophical readings. Q14. Sir, I know there aredifferent types of sraadhas. There is Atma pinda sraadha with special manthratoo. My question sir, who are advised to perform Jala srradha and Hiranyasraadha? A14.Hiranaya sraadha I have already replied. However I will give one more clarification andexpress the srardha niyama as explained by my distant cousin, late Sri Mukkur Lakshminarasimhachariar, (who was very popular for his divine writings in manyperiodicals, very specifically for an article series in Kalki “Kurai Onrum IlRlaiGovinda”) has given some hints on the Srardha procedures. Heeven wrote an article in one of the KalkiDeepavalisupplement and I give the contents here below for the readers to take a note. The Srardha niyama in threedifferent types with each having values on Uthama, Madhima & Athama paksha Sincerely, GopalaKrishnan 16-5-2021 Respected Sri Rajaram IRS Withat most respect you I am writing the following:- Ihad written in my posting Divineinformation part 7 one can perform srardha on the thithi day invoking only jnatha Anjatha pithrus.If sasthrikal recite manthra invoking only jnatha Anjatha pithrus, one can performsrardha withoutpithruvaranam. Regardingdifferent types of srardhas, he is referring to his cousin’s book of different type of practices inSriVaishanvam. You just see the titleSrivaishnavam practices in web page. AnIyengar worship only in Sri Vishnu temples (exemptions are there). Theirpractices are different from ours. Hehas told in a correspondence to me if pithruvaram is done, with hesitation our pithru comesfrom Devaloka, accept the offerings and give to Jnatha Anjatha pithrus. Youcan correspond with TRS iyengar and ask whether he has written to me so. I lost old files. Or elseI could have produced. Kindlyread my postings fully. Aboveall he is a sasthrikal. He is not the ultimate authority. He know fewthings which he replied. Another sasthrikal may have different view. Kindlynote- It is Sri Vaishnavam practices. Whatis quoted from his cousin is not his view. Hiranya sradham goes to the lowestcategory. Now not having Brahmins even for Hiranya sradham is the case inKerala. You can discuss this point with SriVenkat Raman also.He was invitingNampoothiries for srardha. Later they stopped coming. However he has performed Gaya srardha. AmongTamil Brahmins the practices are different. Among Kerala iyers there arevariations since they settled in Kerala long back. Oncebefore performing Gayasrardha, my sasthrikal brought two Brahmins for asrardha. One was a KeralaMoothathu talking in Malayalam. Without asking sasthrikal said- it is very difficult to get iyers for sradha. Ihave only one point to request you. You write anything you like as your postings. I mark your m
Re: GAYA SRARDHA – REG
not hurt Krishna. And G sails in the same boat with hypocrisy. Many write and one reads; but what was the content and its truth shall unfold many questions; and such shall make one think;unlike 5 topics from various web sites and a decade back old stuff; I meant only that; I had reproduced many write ups of our own members who felt whether it is sensible; good writers doubts themselves; but having lifted up to fill pages in different lines which is the worst COPY AND PASTE, also call the kettle black as copy and paste; ALSO VEILS WHO READS INTANTTRUMS; IS IT AT 76?. Mr Venkata Giri on cauvery presented Cauvery and you the Ganga and Yamuna as dwarapalaka architectural from 4 AD as lifted from Quora; had you spend some more time you would have asked yourself then what the hell is Gangotri Yamunotri and Adi Sankata Mutts etc; Unaware you present a copied fact of dwarapalaka in Temples; even one who is proud of Kerala had u asked how Keral temples look like, may be you had an answer; In 2018 One M Krishna kumari wrote a book Iconography of Ganga and Yamuna (and you write as north Jamuna) and the youth in Quora followed it up as dwarapalaka architecture as deduced by M Krishna Kumari. You simply reproduced it. Stone structures of Ganga mata and Yamuna matha existed even at the time of the Buddaha as found in their texts; Ganga was depicted in architectures even before; Kerala temple styles were different in the beginning; later dwarapalaka concepts came in from the neighborhood. Rig Veda speaks of Ganga Yamuna Saraswati . As elders we have to submit the truth to the society egoless. If you send mine to spam I am not the loser; I sent to spam Narayanasamy as there is no content ; aservada pumsavana childbirth aseervatham and tathastu mantras are rituals of half learned vadyars; that has no content is already in spam even when generated. Sit calmly and think and if you wish a change is inevitable. You are able to think and so think carefully. And ideas shall emanate from only when one reads since the mind prompts the storage, which means that it was already in store; what we want to say we type; what we want to quote we typed in 70s; but now available in the net akshaya patra; so once we know what we want we know where to search; and copy and paste is not filling the pages but this copy and paste is giving out the truth, saving the time; when someone speaks about west pronouncement of the perception it flashes into me the perception as described in our ethics B G and since I had done my article on that gets it back; i use the web for the Geetha; orelse I can also type the sanskrit and copy and paste my own also!. many upanishads I had typed and pasted too. So I am not jibing at any one and I do not have any ego. I do not boast about anything unless some occasion arose. For example when Mr TNCR wrote about his friend at Teppakulam st TVL, i remembered my father in law and my tenure there. When am ember asked from where I said from my prize books as i have a lot of them given to me for my academics in 50s and 70s. And if its in the net I copy and paste or else I shall type. COPY and paste like your alone is to be developed further. It is harsh sir but you have to consume it or send it to BIN as your choice. Personally as Narayanasamy unknown I have no grudge not only you but with any one. Have a nice day KR IRS 17521 On Sun, 16 May 2021 at 19:01, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < thatha_patty@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *GAYA SRARDHA – REG* Dear friends, I have read the full link given by Sri > Rajaram IRS which is a question answer between me and TRS Iyengar who is a > sastrikal in Mattunga and *owning a website during 2007 or so, forwarded > to me by Sri Narayanaswamy. * *The part regarding Gaya srardha I > reproduce below.* *In your one earlier query I had clarified already the > following points which I may add here too for the benefit of visitors:* > > 1. Gaya sraadha is equivalent to performing *60 annual sraadhas.* > > 2. After Gaya sraadha, conducting sraadha should not be discontinued. > *Continuing > sraadha will surely feed Jnatha Anjatha pithrus * > > *If our pithrus have gone to their destinations. It adds to punniabalam*. > > There are even persons perform *sraadha for Jnatha anjatha pithrus too > for punniam*. > > I hope this reply is elaborate as you desired. > > > > Some important QA from the link I reproduce below:- > > Q7. Sir Do our pithru reach swarga? > > A7. Why doubt? The ultimate destination being Kailasam aka Paramapadam, > the souls wander from one location to other, depending on their merits > and punya bhalam. They reach their destinations by various steps; > pithrulokam, devalokam, etc. The actual paramapatham, Srivaikuntham or > kailasam are one and the same as per the philosophical readings. > > *Q14. Sir, I know there are different types of sraadh
GAYA SRARDHA – REG
GAYA SRARDHA – REG Dear friends, I have read the full link given by Sri Rajaram IRS which isa question answer between me and TRS Iyengar who is a sastrikal in Mattunga andowning a website during2007 or so, forwardedto me by SriNarayanaswamy. The part regarding Gaya srardha I reproduce below. In your one earlier query I had clarified already the followingpoints which I may add here too for the benefit of visitors: 1.Gaya sraadha is equivalent to performing 60 annual sraadhas. 2.After Gaya sraadha, conducting sraadha should not be discontinued. Continuing sraadha will surely feed Jnatha Anjathapithrus If our pithrus have gone to their destinations. It addsto punniabalam. Thereare even persons perform sraadhafor Jnatha anjatha pithrus too for punniam. Ihope this reply is elaborate as you desired. Some important QA from the link I reproduce below:- Q7. Sir Do our pithru reachswarga? A7. Why doubt? The ultimatedestination being Kailasam aka Paramapadam, the souls wander from one location to other, depending on theirmerits and punya bhalam. They reach their destinations by varioussteps; pithrulokam, devalokam, etc. The actual paramapatham, Srivaikuntham or kailasam are one and the same as per the philosophical readings. Q14. Sir, I know there aredifferent types of sraadhas. There is Atma pinda sraadha with special manthratoo. My question sir, who are advised to perform Jala srradha and Hiranyasraadha? A14.Hiranaya sraadha I have already replied. However I will give one more clarification andexpress the srardha niyama as explained by my distant cousin, late Sri Mukkur Lakshminarasimhachariar, (who was very popular for his divine writings in manyperiodicals, very specifically for an article series in Kalki “Kurai Onrum IlRlaiGovinda”) has given some hints on the Srardha procedures. Heeven wrote an article in one of the KalkiDeepavalisupplement and I give the contents here below for the readers to take a note. The Srardha niyama in threedifferent types with each having values on Uthama, Madhima & Athama paksha Sincerely, GopalaKrishnan 16-5-2021 Respected Sri Rajaram IRS Withat most respect you I am writing the following:- Ihad written in my posting Divineinformation part 7 one can perform srardha on the thithi day invoking only jnatha Anjatha pithrus.If sasthrikal recite manthra invoking only jnatha Anjatha pithrus, one can performsrardha withoutpithruvaranam. Regardingdifferent types of srardhas, he is referring to his cousin’s book of different type of practices inSriVaishanvam. You just see the titleSrivaishnavam practices in web page. AnIyengar worship only in Sri Vishnu temples (exemptions are there). Theirpractices are different from ours. Hehas told in a correspondence to me if pithruvaram is done, with hesitation our pithru comesfrom Devaloka, accept the offerings and give to Jnatha Anjatha pithrus. Youcan correspond with TRS iyengar and ask whether he has written to me so. I lost old files. Or elseI could have produced. Kindlyread my postings fully. Aboveall he is a sasthrikal. He is not the ultimate authority. He know fewthings which he replied. Another sasthrikal may have different view. Kindlynote- It is Sri Vaishnavam practices. Whatis quoted from his cousin is not his view. Hiranya sradham goes to the lowestcategory. Now not having Brahmins even for Hiranya sradham is the case inKerala. You can discuss this point with SriVenkat Raman also.He was invitingNampoothiries for srardha. Later they stopped coming. However he has performed Gaya srardha. AmongTamil Brahmins the practices are different. Among Kerala iyers there arevariations since they settled in Kerala long back. Oncebefore performing Gayasrardha, my sasthrikal brought two Brahmins for asrardha. One was a KeralaMoothathu talking in Malayalam. Without asking sasthrikal said- it is very difficult to get iyers for sradha. Ihave only one point to request you. You write anything you like as your postings. I mark your mails to spam after yourwriting to me- Donot write anything based on my responses. What is the benefit of reading your responsesif I cannot use it? I canalso write in similar lines. But I do not. As per my understandinganybody can respond based on another’s posting. It is a world of internet. GopalaKrishnan 16-5-2021 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to thatha_patty+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/1562893538.654703.1621171893230%40mail.yahoo.com.
