[tw] [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi 

I have been working on a couple of widget plugins which address problems I 
was having when developing TW5 applications -- they may be found 
here: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com

The $setfield widget was my response to the need to initiate more than 
one function with one button. Starting out with a mechanism borrowed from 
the linkcatcher widget, I developed a pair of complementary widgets that 
could be assembled in a stack around a button widget -- the title of the 
target widget being passed through the stack with an event parameter.

The $maketid widget was my response to the spurious javascript errors I 
was experiencing with the $newtiddler widget. My efforts to address the 
error by modifying the $newtiddler widget failed, and I resorted to 
rewriting the widget by adopting the mechanism borrowed from the 
linkcatcher widget. This appears to have cured the bad behaviour of the 
$newtiddler widget, at least in the context in which I was experiencing 
problems.

I have constructed the widgets in such a way that they may be used together 
in the same stack. Other widgets could be developed using the same 
mechanism which could then be added to the widget stack (the 
$fieldmangler and $linkcatcher widgets are partially compatible.)

I would welcome any feedback with respect the concept of the widgets, and 
any ideas with respect modifying the code to broaden the context of their 
application.

regards

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Re: [tw] Re: FeT - For Each Tiddler Questions.

2014-05-27 Thread Jan Johannpeter

Hi Eric
Wow, what a change a little ' can do...
The script works fine now allso when it is called in the Template.
One last wish: Is there a way to supress the reportline for the tiddlers 
where the field important is undefined?


Again thanks a lot Jan.






Am 27.05.2014 01:17, schrieb Eric Shulman:

On Monday, May 26, 2014 3:52:17 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

Hello Eric, hello whatever.
Thanks for your two approaches, I think Erics is the one I need,
because I need to call it in a template
I would like to call it up with a macro:
tiddler ShowStoryStatus with: {{tiddler.title}}
unfortunately it gives me this syntax error message: SyntaxError:
unterminated string literal
Unfortunately I am not able to fix it...


Unlike ForEachTiddler, which requires the snippets of javascript code 
to be enclosed in their own quote delimiters, InlineJavascript allows 
you to write clean pure javascript code without using up some of the 
quotes in the process.  Unfortunately, when I copy/pasted your fET 
code to create my javascript example, I left behind one tiny single 
quote at the end of a line, where it doesn't belong!


Remove the trailing ' from this line, and it should be OK:
|
out+=Für [[+tids[i]+]]: +store.getValue(tids[i],important)+\n'
|

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Re: [tw] Re: listselect widget no longer working for me in 5.0.12-beta

2014-05-27 Thread Daniel Diggens
Thank you!

Daniel

 26 maj 2014 kl. 22:43 skrev Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Daniel
 
  BJ: What are the changes to filterTiddlers()? How can this be fixed?
 
 The major change in 5.0.12 was here:
 
 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/385c7e207cb82ad5dd50382ba71da3328dbdfbbc
 
 The second argument of wiki.filterTiddlers() was previously the value of the 
 currentTiddler variable. Now a widget must be passed, allowing the filter 
 mechanism to retrieve the currentTiddler or any other variable.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Jeremy
 
 
 
 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Daniel Diggens 
 ddiggens.forsakringsradgiv...@trygghansa.se wrote:
 I also want to use Stephan Hradeks Listselect widget in tw 5.0.12-beta.
 http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/
 
 Stephan, if you see this, could you update your widget?
 
 BJ: What are the changes to filterTiddlers()? How can this be fixed?
 
 
 Daniel
 
 23 maj 2014 kl. 05:42 skrev Michael Wiktowy mwikt...@gmail.com:
 
 
 It is one of Stephan Hradek's excellent plugins found at 
 http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/
 
 I have been using newtiddler and listselect but I guess listselect has not 
 been updated for 5.0.12. I had similar functionality kludged together using 
 radio lists so possibly I will just go back to that so that I am closer to 
 the core functionality.
 
 /Mike
 
 On Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:48:46 PM UTC-4, BJ wrote:
 Hi Michael, 
 there is change to the javascript function filterTiddlers() in tw core 
 version 5.12 - thus all  widgets that uses this function must be modifled 
 (it a  very small thing). What is the listwidget plugin? 
 BJ
 
 On Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:55:05 AM UTC+1, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I would love to upgrade from 5.0.10-beta, but as soon as I import the 
 listwidget plugin or something containing that plugin (like my old 
 version of my TiddlyWiki), I get a stream of javascript errors in big 
 threatening red boxes whenever it try to do something:
 
 
 Internal JavaScript Error
 
 Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
 by refreshing your browser
 TypeError: widget.getVariable is not a function
 
 
 And I get Undefined widget 'listselect' in the locations where I use it 
 even if I manage to save the Tiddlywiki and reload it.
 
 Is anyone else seeing this?
 
 /Mike
 
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Re: [tw] Last call - anyone want tiddlywikiguides.org?

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Daniel

 I was hoping BT/Osmosoft would want it, but it looks like they're
downshifting their investments in TW.

I'm afraid that BT hasn't offered any support to the TiddlyWiki community
since I left their employment in 2011.

It would be great if someone did pick up tiddlywikiguides.org - I've rather
got my hands full with managing the main project domains.

Best wishes

Jeremy.





On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Daniel Baird danielba...@gmail.com wrote:


 As Stephen said, it'll expire early on 2 June, GMT time.

 Remember, it only costs you $15 or whatever your registrar charges, to
 have a whole year to think about it :)

 If you haven't handled domains before, I can probably talk you it.  It's
 currently registered at NameCheap, so it's easy to transfer to another
 NameCheap account, but between registrars isn't hard anyway.

 I was hoping BT/Osmosoft would want it, but it looks like they're
 downshifting their investments in TW.  Let me know what you decide..


 Cheers
 Daniel



 On 27 May 2014 04:14, Andreas Hahn www.gal...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Hi Daniel,

 I am currently thinking about this, can you tell me when those few days
 will be over ?

 /Andreas


 Am 26.05.2014 01:15, schrieb Daniel Baird:


  Hi all,

 In a few days my domain tiddlywikiguides.org will expire.  I don't have
 time or budget to maintain it, so I'm willing to transfer it to anyone who
 wants to have it.

  I've mentioned this before on the dev and docs groups; here's my
 once-only post to the main TW list.

  tiddlywikiguides.org used to run a mediawiki instance that collected
 docs for TiddlyWiki, back when the classic version was the only version.
 Most of that content has been moved into the tiddlyspace docs section.

  I'd like to see it at least redirected to tiddlywiki.com or somewhere
 like that, but if you want to make something fancier out of it, that's cool
 too.

  Otherwise it'll just expire and probably get bought up by some jerk
 domain spammer.


  Post back here if you're interested..


 Cheers
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[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor

2014-05-27 Thread Vincent Yeh
Hi Yakov,

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:54:01 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:

 Hi Vincent

 суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 7:09:16 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал:

  

 2. Lists
  

 2.2 Changing of the list order is rather slow


 Hmmm, I just noticed in my 
 examplehttp://twve.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5Btwve--Example--List%20Items%5D%5Dthat
  *it 
 caused an infinite loop when I tried to move down the last item*, but 
 worked quite smoothly in other cases, even when moving up the very first 
 one (well, you may get strange results but that's how TiddlyWiki renders 
 lists, not the *twve*). Are you saying it is slow in general, or just 
 cases similar to what I mentioned? If it is general then I would guess it's 
 some interference with other plugins.
  

 Well, no, for me (in FF/Opera) in a list as simple as
 * one
 * two
 * three
 moving the first or the second item down takes 3-4 seconds (even if that's 
 the only open tiddler).


I am guessing that could be the AutoSave feature (I remember you had once 
mentioned about this?).

In v3.0.2 (and earlier versions) moving an element (such as a list item) 
includes setting the tiddler text twice, which would trigger the saving 
action twice if AutoSave is enabled. That could be time consuming. I can 
reduce the time of setting tiddler text to once, should save half of the 
time but I don't know how to save more with AutoSave enabled. Usually I 
disable the AutoSave option and moving elements is very smooth.
 

  


 3. Tables (haven't made consistent testing yet)
 3.1 Multiline cells interact in an incorrect way with the following text. 
 To understand what I mean, try this in a tiddler:
 |text text text text text text text text text text text text text text 
 text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text 
 text text text text text text text text text text text text text text text 
 text text long enough to be multiline|
 text


 Hmmm, this is odd. I shall take a deep look into the codes...
 By the way, you can put multi-lined content, such as lists, blockquotes, 
 etc., in a table cell, as shown in this 
 examplehttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftwve.tiddlyspot.com%2F%23%255B%255Btwve.table--Example--Multi-lined%2520Content%255D%255Dsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHRDJj3LajUiX23uoX2QWSugTP3wg
 .


 Looks cool, but here's an important point: this feature is a change in 
 representation (while the whole twve plugins are about making 
 *editing*easier), so if it's possible, I would like to have a small plugin 
 that 
 makes tables format multiline content -- so that in a public TW I could use 
 that plugin without any inline editing stuff.


That could be a good idea to try at a later time.
 

  

 3.2 Inline editing (at least adding/removing colomns) seem to remove 
 additional classes. Say, I have a borderless table
 |borderless|k
 |text|
 After I add a new colomn, the table becomes with borders (it is ok for 
 edit mode, but in view mode I would like to have my CSS applied). The 
 |borderless|k part is not removed, if the tiddler is reopened, the 
 borders are gone again.
 CSS here is
 .borderless, .borderless tr, .borderless th, .borderless td { border: none 
 !important; }
 Note the !important part: without it, the stying is not applied at all -- 
 I would consider this as a bug, too.


 This I really have no idea. The *twve* does not do anything about styles 
 because I have very limited knowledge about CSS statements. If that is a 
 bug in *twve*, that must be due to the nothing be done about styles. In 
 that case it may take a long time to fix...
  

 Ouch. I wanted to check if the DOM classes are removed, but the bug is no 
 longer reproducible.. Let's forget about it until I can reproduce it again.

 However, the need to add the !important part to CSS stays.


You mean without twve you don't need this ! important thing, but with it 
you do, is that right? That will be a trouble to me because I have no idea 
at all what this ! important is! Hope it is not that important. :-)
 


 Ok, let's go further.

 3.3 2 tables bug: in a tiddler as simple as
 |cell1|
 text
 |cell2|
 try to edit any of the two one-cell-talbes: for me, when trying to edit 
 the first one, the cell2 text is displayed (and if I apply the changes, 
 they are stored in the first table), and if I try to edit the second one, 
 empty text is displayed.


This is a bug for sure. Thanks for finding it. I will fix it some time this 
week.
 

 3.4 the width of the cells is still not adequate: if Minimum cell width 
 in characters. option is set to 0, the width is still bigger than the 
 content is, and extra padding on the right is added


Ok. I will check.
 

 3.5 the speed of colomn moving is so-so and seem to depend on the history 
 of moving: consider this tiddler:
 Start with text
 |a|b|c|
 |d|e|f|
 |g|i|j|
 end with text
 moving the first colomn to the left (or the second to the right) takes 
 about 1 second; if I move that colomn back, it takes 2-3 seconds (tested in 
 

Re: [tw] Last call - anyone want tiddlywikiguides.org?

2014-05-27 Thread Stephan Hradek
I just checked with my 2 providers and it's 14,95€ per year + 9,95€ once 
(1st. Provider) or 17,40€ per year (2nd Provider).

While this isn't too much, this is the domain only. I have no Webspace 
then. And I really do not want to handle the content.

So if someone else would manage the content on a his webspace, I'm thinking 
about buying the domains.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 include external js/css in meta area

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Wow, how many hidden features. 

Talking about including documentation... Jeremy, I saw that you have included 
more addons in the Codemirror plugin. Would you consider explaining how to use 
them? I know how, but maybe not the average user. 

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Re: [tw] Last call - anyone want tiddlywikiguides.org?

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
As Daniel suggests, it might be reasonable to just redirect to
tiddlywiki.com, and avoid having any content at all.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Stephan Hradek
stephan.hra...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just checked with my 2 providers and it's 14,95€ per year + 9,95€ once
 (1st. Provider) or 17,40€ per year (2nd Provider).

 While this isn't too much, this is the domain only. I have no Webspace
 then. And I really do not want to handle the content.

 So if someone else would manage the content on a his webspace, I'm
 thinking about buying the domains.




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Re: [tw] AutomatedLinkUpdate

2014-05-27 Thread Alain Dutech
Thanks Jeremy, with the new version, it works a I intended. That's nice.
Alain


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Xavier


 Speaking of sequences, let's say I have a few titles in the list field of
 a ToC tiddler : [[Introduction]] [[My second chapter]] [[Here is the third
 one]].

 I'd like to count the number of tiddlers before the current tiddler, in
 order to display for instance Chapter *2* : My second chapter from
 $count
 filter=[all[current]operation-that-returns-the-sublist-upto-the-current-tiddler]/.
 Is there a way to achieve this from the set of operators available?


 I don't think that that can be done at the moment. We'd need something
 like allbefore and allafter which would return all the tiddlers
 preceding or succeeding the tiddler named in the operand.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



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 Xavier.

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 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
 jeremy.rus...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Alain

 In 5.0.11 you'll be able to use the new before/after filter operators to
 do what you want. This example adapts your filter expression and then
 selects the tiddler after HelloThere:

 [tag[thestory]!is[system]has[_date]sort[_date]after[HelloThere]]

 This example selects the tiddler before the current one:

 [tag[thestory]!is[system]has[_date]sort[_date]before{!!title}]

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Alain Dutech snowgoo...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hi,

 I know that TW is non-linear but I'd like to automate some
 linearity :o)
 So, more clearly :

 I have some tiddlers telling a (linear) story and I order them
 according to a custom field (let's call it _date). I'd like to have, in
 any of these tiddlers, a link to the preceding one and to the next one,
 according to the order induced by _date. How could I do this ?

 I can have an ordered list of all the tidler using filters and I
 thought I could extract from this list the previous tiddler
 {{{ [tag[thestory]!is[system]] +[has[_date]] +[sort[_date]] }}}

 Using the previous operator, I thought I could extract from this the
 preceding tiddler and use that in a $link $view LINK /$view/$link
 block. But the previous operator needs the list to be in the ListField of
 a tiddler I think.

 So 1) how can I set/update the ListField of a tiddler from another
 tiddler macro (if I add a new tiddler between two others, I need to update
 this list)
  2) is there a better way to do this, I mean how would YOU
 automatically update such prev/next links ?

 Thanks a lot, for the good work on TW5, but also if you hav some
 feedback for me :o)
 Alain

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Re: [tw] Request for all TW shortcuts to be published in Tiddlywiki.com

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
When I wrote the keyboard shortcuts widget I investigated how the official 
keyboard widget works. I think it is easily extensible, but in my opinion the 
shortcuts should be in a external Json config file instead of hard-coded in the 
widget itself. This way anyone could edit it easier. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Newbie: Line-break question

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Maybe I need a rethink about it. Sometimes I want to separate information 
clearly in the same paragraph. Maybe I'm not managing the information well. 

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[tw] Re: [tw5]list filter field !value question

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello. 

When you have a working example could you share? I liked the implementation but 
I didn't understand the use case. Maybe a real example could help me. 

Thank you! 

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[tw] Re: [tw5]list filter field !value question

2014-05-27 Thread Måns

Hi Danielo

http://hitsang.tiddlyspot.com 

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Den tirsdag den 27. maj 2014 12.50.43 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez:

 Hello. 

 When you have a working example could you share? I liked the 
 implementation but I didn't understand the use case. Maybe a real example 
 could help me. 

 Thank you! 



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[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor

2014-05-27 Thread Yakov
Hi Vincent,



  

 2. Lists
  

 2.2 Changing of the list order is rather slow


 Hmmm, I just noticed in my 
 examplehttp://twve.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5Btwve--Example--List%20Items%5D%5Dthat
  *it 
 caused an infinite loop when I tried to move down the last item*, but 
 worked quite smoothly in other cases, even when moving up the very first 
 one (well, you may get strange results but that's how TiddlyWiki renders 
 lists, not the *twve*). Are you saying it is slow in general, or just 
 cases similar to what I mentioned? If it is general then I would guess it's 
 some interference with other plugins.
  

 Well, no, for me (in FF/Opera) in a list as simple as
 * one
 * two
 * three
 moving the first or the second item down takes 3-4 seconds (even if that's 
 the only open tiddler).


 I am guessing that could be the AutoSave feature (I remember you had once 
 mentioned about this?).

 In v3.0.2 (and earlier versions) moving an element (such as a list item) 
 includes setting the tiddler text twice, which would trigger the saving 
 action twice if AutoSave is enabled. That could be time consuming. I can 
 reduce the time of setting tiddler text to once, should save half of the 
 time but I don't know how to save more with AutoSave enabled. Usually I 
 disable the AutoSave option and moving elements is very smooth.

Yes, very probably it's autosaving. And moving table rows has sort of the 
same speed as colomn moving. How about an option that will control whether 
autosaving should be called?

  

   

  

 3.2 Inline editing (at least adding/removing colomns) seem to remove 
 additional classes. Say, I have a borderless table
 |borderless|k
 |text|
 After I add a new colomn, the table becomes with borders (it is ok for 
 edit mode, but in view mode I would like to have my CSS applied). The 
 |borderless|k part is not removed, if the tiddler is reopened, the 
 borders are gone again.
 CSS here is
 .borderless, .borderless tr, .borderless th, .borderless td { border: none 
 !important; }
 Note the !important part: without it, the stying is not applied at all -- 
 I would consider this as a bug, too.


 This I really have no idea. The *twve* does not do anything about styles 
 because I have very limited knowledge about CSS statements. If that is a 
 bug in *twve*, that must be due to the nothing be done about styles. In 
 that case it may take a long time to fix...
  

 Ouch. I wanted to check if the DOM classes are removed, but the bug is no 
 longer reproducible.. Let's forget about it until I can reproduce it again.

 However, the need to add the !important part to CSS stays.


 You mean without twve you don't need this ! important thing, but with it 
 you do, is that right? That will be a trouble to me because I have no idea 
 at all what this ! important is! Hope it is not that important. :-)
  

Well, this is not of great concern; in short, CSS allows to make some rules 
have more priority than others -- the !important part is for that. But ok, 
let forget about this at least for a while, this is not a top priority 
issue.
 

  

 3.5 the speed of colomn moving is so-so and seem to depend on the history 
 of moving: consider this tiddler:
 Start with text
 |a|b|c|
 |d|e|f|
 |g|i|j|
 end with text
 moving the first colomn to the left (or the second to the right) takes 
 about 1 second; if I move that colomn back, it takes 2-3 seconds (tested in 
 FF)


 What about rows? Moving rows is smooth but columns not? I thought it's the 
 AutoSave again but then moving rows would be as slow as moving columns.


See abouve. 

  


 3.6 tables with several missing cells behave in a tricky way: if I create 
 this table
 |a|b|c|
 |d|
 and try to edit the bottom-left cell, it opens for editing and then shows 
 the table as thought as it is edited in a right way (the bottom-left cell 
 is now with content). However, if I open the tw code, I see
 |a|b|c|
 |d|f|
 instead of
 |a|b|c|
 |d||f|
 and reloading the tiddler shows incorrectly edited table (the 
 bottom-center cell is filled with the text).


 I think you are using FireFox, which version is it? My FireFox 29.0.1 / 
 Win8 works correctly, but Chrome, IE11 and Opera don't even edit the 
 missing cells! There is certainly some cross-browser compatibility issue I 
 need to fix, no matter what.


Yes, I've tested this in FF only. 

  

 4. Transclusions (not finished)
 4.1 inserting sections causes and error: if I create a tiddler New 
 Tiddler to include with the text
 !section
 Type the text for 'New Tiddler'
 and another tiddler with this text:
 tiddler [[New Tiddler to include##section]]
 I see the line
 Type the text for 'New Tiddler'
 but in its end, there's Error in macro tiddler telling me TypeError: 
 b.$dom is null


 In my Win8 box with FireFox 29.0.1 I do not see such an error, but with 
 IE11, Chrome, and Opera I see this error some times (but not always). I am 
 not sure what is wrong about it yet, shall need more time to find out.


Well, this was 

[tw] [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Matabelle 

I succeed editing the newtiddler widget to add the hability of define tags, but 
I like a lot your idea of chaining widgets. Could you explain this limitation? 
I don't understand why :

Unfortunately, $setfield widgets can not be stacked in this way, as the same 
message can not be sent from a widget as the message caught by the widget. A 
transposed $fieldset widget is, therefore,

There are several widgets that does not suffer from this limitation. The link 
catcher widget does exactly this, chaining messages. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #47

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
TiddlyWiki Hangout #47 is about to start over at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfQLeKjB4zgwSLnts2Mr_IYzynhXFd6l3wdrjeFnsvWkse9Lg

Best wishes

Jeremy



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 As ever, please do post questions to be answered or discussed during the
 hangout. Just click the QA button on the video preview at the above link.

 Note that there won’t be a hangout next week.

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[tw] [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Matabelle 

I succeed editing the newtiddler widget to add the hability of define tags, but 
I like a lot your idea of chaining widgets. Could you explain this limitation? 
I don't understand why :

Unfortunately, $setfield widgets can not be stacked in this way, as the same 
message can not be sent from a widget as the message caught by the widget. A 
transposed $fieldset widget is, therefore,

There are several widgets that does not suffer from this limitation. The link 
catcher widget does exactly this, chaining messages. 

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.0.12-beta

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello David and Leo, 

Maybe you ddon't know but I made a plugin for searching by tag. If it is not 
what you expect let me know what do you miss. 

You can ccheck it at braintest.tiddlyspot.com 

Kind regards 

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[tw] [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Koh Schooley
Hi all, first time poster here so apologies if I'm lacking pertinent info.

I've searched around for any answers to this, both in this google group, 
the current tiddlywiki docs, and google itself, with no luck.

*I'd like to be able to transclude a section of one tiddler into another 
based upon headings.*  So, the first tiddler may look something like:

[TiddlerOne]
!Heading One
don't display me
!Heading two
display me!
!Heading three
don't display me either

I'd like to, say, only display the text display me! as found between 
heading two and three.  The old tiddlywiki syntax looks to have acomplished 
this through the format:

[[TiddlerOne##Heading two]]

But I do not see this in the current versions documentation, nor does it 
seem to work in my testing.  This easy syntax looks to have been repurposed 
for transcluding a specified indeedx property of a DataTiddler.

Have I overlooked how to do this in TW5?  Is this still a feature in the 
works?  Or possibily are there plugins or solutions otherwise to accomplish 
what I'd like to do?

Thanks to all those who work on Tiddlywiki -- it's been great as a daily 
work log, and to those who can provide help.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi Danielo

Don't know the technicalities, but when I try this, I get stack overflow 
errors (and 'field-two' doesn't get set):

$setfield set=!!field-two setTo=two
$setfield set=!!field-one setTo=one message=tw-set-field
$button message=tw-set-field param=TargetSet/$button
/$setfield
/$setfield

Likely my deficient knowledge of javascript -- perhaps there's a way to fix 
this?

regards

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:48:44 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello Matabelle 

 I succeed editing the newtiddler widget to add the hability of define 
 tags, but I like a lot your idea of chaining widgets. Could you explain 
 this limitation? I don't understand why :

 Unfortunately, $setfield widgets can not be stacked in this way, as the 
 same message can not be sent from a widget as the message caught by the 
 widget. A transposed $fieldset widget is, therefore,

 There are several widgets that does not suffer from this limitation. The 
 link catcher widget does exactly this, chaining messages. 



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[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor

2014-05-27 Thread Vincent Yeh
Hi Yakov,

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:27:24 PM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:

 Hi Vincent,



  

 2. Lists
  

 2.2 Changing of the list order is rather slow


 Hmmm, I just noticed in my 
 examplehttp://twve.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5Btwve--Example--List%20Items%5D%5Dthat
  *it 
 caused an infinite loop when I tried to move down the last item*, but 
 worked quite smoothly in other cases, even when moving up the very first 
 one (well, you may get strange results but that's how TiddlyWiki renders 
 lists, not the *twve*). Are you saying it is slow in general, or just 
 cases similar to what I mentioned? If it is general then I would guess it's 
 some interference with other plugins.
  

 Well, no, for me (in FF/Opera) in a list as simple as
 * one
 * two
 * three
 moving the first or the second item down takes 3-4 seconds (even if that's 
 the only open tiddler).


 I am guessing that could be the AutoSave feature (I remember you had once 
 mentioned about this?).

 In v3.0.2 (and earlier versions) moving an element (such as a list item) 
 includes setting the tiddler text twice, which would trigger the saving 
 action twice if AutoSave is enabled. That could be time consuming. I can 
 reduce the time of setting tiddler text to once, should save half of the 
 time but I don't know how to save more with AutoSave enabled. Usually I 
 disable the AutoSave option and moving elements is very smooth.

 Yes, very probably it's autosaving. And moving table rows has sort of the 
 same speed as colomn moving. How about an option that will control whether 
 autosaving should be called?


Yes, you are right! I already forgot there is one such option since the 
very beginning! Check the option chktwveCoreManualSave and the 
autoSaveChanges() function will not be triggered every time but only when 
you press the SaveChanges command explicitly.
 

  

   

  

 3.2 Inline editing (at least adding/removing colomns) seem to remove 
 additional classes. Say, I have a borderless table
 |borderless|k
 |text|
 After I add a new colomn, the table becomes with borders (it is ok for 
 edit mode, but in view mode I would like to have my CSS applied). The 
 |borderless|k part is not removed, if the tiddler is reopened, the 
 borders are gone again.
 CSS here is
 .borderless, .borderless tr, .borderless th, .borderless td { border: none 
 !important; }
 Note the !important part: without it, the stying is not applied at all -- 
 I would consider this as a bug, too.


 This I really have no idea. The *twve* does not do anything about styles 
 because I have very limited knowledge about CSS statements. If that is a 
 bug in *twve*, that must be due to the nothing be done about styles. In 
 that case it may take a long time to fix...
  

 Ouch. I wanted to check if the DOM classes are removed, but the bug is no 
 longer reproducible.. Let's forget about it until I can reproduce it again.

 However, the need to add the !important part to CSS stays.


 You mean without twve you don't need this ! important thing, but with it 
 you do, is that right? That will be a trouble to me because I have no idea 
 at all what this ! important is! Hope it is not that important. :-)
  

 Well, this is not of great concern; in short, CSS allows to make some 
 rules have more priority than others -- the !important part is for that. 
 But ok, let forget about this at least for a while, this is not a top 
 priority issue.
  

  

 3.5 the speed of colomn moving is so-so and seem to depend on the history 
 of moving: consider this tiddler:
 Start with text
 |a|b|c|
 |d|e|f|
 |g|i|j|
 end with text
 moving the first colomn to the left (or the second to the right) takes 
 about 1 second; if I move that colomn back, it takes 2-3 seconds (tested in 
 FF)


 What about rows? Moving rows is smooth but columns not? I thought it's the 
 AutoSave again but then moving rows would be as slow as moving columns.


 See abouve. 

  


 3.6 tables with several missing cells behave in a tricky way: if I create 
 this table
 |a|b|c|
 |d|
 and try to edit the bottom-left cell, it opens for editing and then shows 
 the table as thought as it is edited in a right way (the bottom-left cell 
 is now with content). However, if I open the tw code, I see
 |a|b|c|
 |d|f|
 instead of

 ...

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi

Don't know if this fits your requirements, but there's a workaround:

In TiddlerOne


!Heading One
{{!!field-one}}
!Heading two
{{!!field-two}}
!Heading three
{{!!field-three}}

field-one: don't display me
field-two: display me!
field-three: don't display me either

Then in TiddlerTwo
---

To display field-two: {{TiddlerOne!!field-two}}

Or to display multiple fields from TiddlerOne, try:

$tiddler tiddler=TiddlerOne

{{!!field-two}}
{{!!field-five}}
...

/$tiddler

regards

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:10:54 PM UTC+2, Koh Schooley wrote:

 Hi all, first time poster here so apologies if I'm lacking pertinent info.

 I've searched around for any answers to this, both in this google group, 
 the current tiddlywiki docs, and google itself, with no luck.

 *I'd like to be able to transclude a section of one tiddler into another 
 based upon headings.*  So, the first tiddler may look something like:

 [TiddlerOne]
 !Heading One
 don't display me
 !Heading two
 display me!
 !Heading three
 don't display me either

 I'd like to, say, only display the text display me! as found between 
 heading two and three.  The old tiddlywiki syntax looks to have acomplished 
 this through the format:

 [[TiddlerOne##Heading two]]

 But I do not see this in the current versions documentation, nor does it 
 seem to work in my testing.  This easy syntax looks to have been repurposed 
 for transcluding a specified indeedx property of a DataTiddler.

 Have I overlooked how to do this in TW5?  Is this still a feature in the 
 works?  Or possibily are there plugins or solutions otherwise to accomplish 
 what I'd like to do?

 Thanks to all those who work on Tiddlywiki -- it's been great as a daily 
 work log, and to those who can provide help.


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[tw] Configuration for Autosave, node.js, Dropbox, Windows, Linux, OSX

2014-05-27 Thread Matthew Petty
I wanted some advice on how to set up my Tiddlywiki to be the most 
efficient and safe.
I want to access it from multiple machines via Dropbox. My work machine is 
a Windows laptop. My personal laptop runs Ubuntu Linux. It would be great 
if my wife could access it on he Macbook.
I have TW5.07-beta in Dropbox at the moment, and I use Firefox with the 
TiddlyFox extension to edit and save it. I do this at home and at work. It 
works fine, and I love the flexibility of filters and tags. Very powerful.

Is there a way I could set it up so that I could have real Autosave? There 
have been times I've forgotten to click save, and I've lost stuff as a 
result. I see that node.js could be a solution, but I don't know how to 
proceed.
Could someone suggest a configuration that would work on the three types of 
machines, and give autosave capability, and whatever other cool tricks 
node.js can give?
More critically, could someone write or point to a step-by-step tutorial to 
set all this up?

Thanks for any suggestions and help,
Matthew

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[tw] Re: Configuration for Autosave, node.js, Dropbox, Windows, Linux, OSX

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi

TiddlyDesktop (https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop) provides 
autosave with a standalone TW5 file without the need to set up node.js -- I 
have this running on my Linux os and on my wife's Windoze7 os. A copy of a 
TW5 file in a Dropbox folder can, therefore, be used on multiple devices -- 
but not at the same time!

An alternative is to use a node.js version on your Linux os, then export an 
offline version to Dropbox periodically. This offline file can be edited on 
other devices with TiddlyDesktop, then re-imported back into node.js when 
returning to your Linux os.

One trick to minimise the sync problem with a shared TW file in a Dropbox 
folder, is to edit tiddlers in another TW located in a normal folder. Drop 
the tiddler to edit onto your normal TW file (or create a new one), edit 
it, then drop the finished tiddler back onto the shared TW file in Dropbox 
when done.

regards

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:41:09 PM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:

 I wanted some advice on how to set up my Tiddlywiki to be the most 
 efficient and safe.
 I want to access it from multiple machines via Dropbox. My work machine is 
 a Windows laptop. My personal laptop runs Ubuntu Linux. It would be great 
 if my wife could access it on he Macbook.
 I have TW5.07-beta in Dropbox at the moment, and I use Firefox with the 
 TiddlyFox extension to edit and save it. I do this at home and at work. It 
 works fine, and I love the flexibility of filters and tags. Very powerful.

 Is there a way I could set it up so that I could have real Autosave? There 
 have been times I've forgotten to click save, and I've lost stuff as a 
 result. I see that node.js could be a solution, but I don't know how to 
 proceed.
 Could someone suggest a configuration that would work on the three types 
 of machines, and give autosave capability, and whatever other cool tricks 
 node.js can give?
 More critically, could someone write or point to a step-by-step tutorial 
 to set all this up?

 Thanks for any suggestions and help,
 Matthew


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[tw] Re: Configuration for Autosave, node.js, Dropbox, Windows, Linux, OSX

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Matabelle that sounds really complicated. 

One question : is your periodical export automated? Since node.js version knows 
when you save a tiddler I think should be easy to have a real time updated 
exported version. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Configuration for Autosave, node.js, Dropbox, Windows, Linux, OSX

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Matthew

Autosave is supported in TiddlyDesktop and with TiddlyFox; you just need to
upgrade to the latest TW core version to get it.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Matabele matabele.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 TiddlyDesktop (https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop) provides
 autosave with a standalone TW5 file without the need to set up node.js -- I
 have this running on my Linux os and on my wife's Windoze7 os. A copy of a
 TW5 file in a Dropbox folder can, therefore, be used on multiple devices --
 but not at the same time!

 An alternative is to use a node.js version on your Linux os, then export
 an offline version to Dropbox periodically. This offline file can be edited
 on other devices with TiddlyDesktop, then re-imported back into node.js
 when returning to your Linux os.

 One trick to minimise the sync problem with a shared TW file in a Dropbox
 folder, is to edit tiddlers in another TW located in a normal folder. Drop
 the tiddler to edit onto your normal TW file (or create a new one), edit
 it, then drop the finished tiddler back onto the shared TW file in Dropbox
 when done.

 regards


 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:41:09 PM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:

 I wanted some advice on how to set up my Tiddlywiki to be the most
 efficient and safe.
 I want to access it from multiple machines via Dropbox. My work machine
 is a Windows laptop. My personal laptop runs Ubuntu Linux. It would be
 great if my wife could access it on he Macbook.
 I have TW5.07-beta in Dropbox at the moment, and I use Firefox with the
 TiddlyFox extension to edit and save it. I do this at home and at work. It
 works fine, and I love the flexibility of filters and tags. Very powerful.

 Is there a way I could set it up so that I could have real Autosave?
 There have been times I've forgotten to click save, and I've lost stuff as
 a result. I see that node.js could be a solution, but I don't know how to
 proceed.
 Could someone suggest a configuration that would work on the three types
 of machines, and give autosave capability, and whatever other cool tricks
 node.js can give?
 More critically, could someone write or point to a step-by-step tutorial
 to set all this up?

 Thanks for any suggestions and help,
 Matthew

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Koh

There are no current plans to be able to transclude sections of tiddlers in
TW5. The recommended approach is to split the big tiddler up into smaller
tiddlers that can be transcluded separately.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Matabele matabele.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 Don't know if this fits your requirements, but there's a workaround:

 In TiddlerOne
 

 !Heading One
 {{!!field-one}}
 !Heading two
 {{!!field-two}}
 !Heading three
 {{!!field-three}}

 field-one: don't display me
 field-two: display me!
 field-three: don't display me either

 Then in TiddlerTwo
 ---

 To display field-two: {{TiddlerOne!!field-two}}

 Or to display multiple fields from TiddlerOne, try:

 $tiddler tiddler=TiddlerOne

 {{!!field-two}}
 {{!!field-five}}
 ...

 /$tiddler

 regards

 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:10:54 PM UTC+2, Koh Schooley wrote:

 Hi all, first time poster here so apologies if I'm lacking pertinent info.

 I've searched around for any answers to this, both in this google group,
 the current tiddlywiki docs, and google itself, with no luck.

 *I'd like to be able to transclude a section of one tiddler into another
 based upon headings.*  So, the first tiddler may look something like:

 [TiddlerOne]
 !Heading One
 don't display me
 !Heading two
 display me!
 !Heading three
 don't display me either

 I'd like to, say, only display the text display me! as found between
 heading two and three.  The old tiddlywiki syntax looks to have acomplished
 this through the format:

 [[TiddlerOne##Heading two]]

 But I do not see this in the current versions documentation, nor does it
 seem to work in my testing.  This easy syntax looks to have been repurposed
 for transcluding a specified indeedx property of a DataTiddler.

 Have I overlooked how to do this in TW5?  Is this still a feature in the
 works?  Or possibily are there plugins or solutions otherwise to accomplish
 what I'd like to do?

 Thanks to all those who work on Tiddlywiki -- it's been great as a daily
 work log, and to those who can provide help.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
$tiddler tiddler=TiddlerOne

{{!!field-two}}
{{!!field-five}}
...

/$tiddler

I never thought about that use for the tiddler widget. Thank you very much. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I have to digg into your code, but maybe you are not stopping the event 
propagation. If so your widget will get the same message twice. I'm not sure 
about this and I don't remember exactly how this works. I studied it a while 
ago and I think that I understood it then. Just let me check. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread PMario
The behaviour you are requesting was part of TiddlyWiki classic. 
.. Transcluding tiddler sections and slices.

This behaviour is removed from TW it there is probably no chance to get it 
back. 

I did run several recorded and several unrecorded attempts to convince 
Jeremy to get them back ... with no success ... and some very good 
reasoning from Jeremy. 

hangout 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=a0UZfd48Ixc#t=4484

hangout 20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=8_-HhbEMiJ4#t=3671

...  So he probably convinced me :)

The way to go with TW5 is different now. Just create smaller tiddlers with 
tags and use the list widget to combine them afterwards. 
The core functionality to do this is part of TW already. ... The problem 
is, that the UI to make this stuff easy and convenient to use, is missing 
at the moment. 

So any help will be highly appreciated.

have fun!
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[tw] [TW5] Stylesheet issues

2014-05-27 Thread Shash
Hi all,

I tried to add a stylesheet with the following code. The entire layout of 
TW changes in case this is added. Can some one please explain and correct 
the issue. 

I am trying to create a table with the div.


.left-c, .right-c{
  float:left;
}
.left-c{
  width:20%; 
}
.right-c{
  width:80%; 
}
div{
  padding:10px;
  border: 0px;
}


Regards
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[tw] Re: newbie to Tiddy Wiki

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I think he want to use several templates with different buttons. 

Do you want the template to be filled or you just want the structure? I mean, 
something similar to editable table at braintest.tiddlyspot.com (first case) or 
just a copy of the template to fill and save? 

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[tw] Re: Configuration for Autosave, node.js, Dropbox, Windows, Linux, OSX

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi Danielo

No - I think autosave to Dropbox is unnecessary. I work on a node.js, then 
export an offline copy to Dropbox when done (this functions as a backup.) 
Individual tiddlers can be dropped onto an open offline copy in 
TiddlyDesktop, but I don't find myself doing this very often.

For an automated solution, I would consider using git and a Github repo of 
the node.js directory itself (this would avoid the necessity of uploading 
the entire TW.) This scheme would also provide a mechanism to sync a TW 
between two users working on the same TW.

regards

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:20:26 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Matabelle that sounds really complicated. 

 One question : is your periodical export automated? Since node.js version 
 knows when you save a tiddler I think should be easy to have a real time 
 updated exported version. 


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[tw] Re: newbie to Tiddy Wiki

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I suggest you to read this:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tw-new-tiddler:%5B%5BWidgetMessage%3A%20tw-new-tiddler%5D%5D

I'm afraid you have read the template Tiddlers instead. As you can read there, 
you can create a button that creates a new tiddler. Additionally if you specify 
the name of a tiddler in the parameter it will be used as a template. 

Is that what you want? 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Koh
After some thought, I have to agree that the best way to approach my 
problem is to adapt to TW5s conventions of usage, and begin splitting my 
daily work logs into smaller sections for each topic.  

Previously, I'd have a tiddler for each day (5/23/14, 5/24/14, 5/25/14). 
 and tag them as log so I have a running list of them.

Now, I will adapt and create a head tiddler for each day, still titled by 
the date and tagged log, and then simply transclude all tiddlers with that 
days date as a tag in.  

The one issue I see with this is it will quickly begin to busy up my 
tag-space if you will... To circumvent this is there anyway to use fields 
much like tags in this sense?  That is, can you transclude a group of 
tiddlers into one tiddler based upon their field values?  I apologize if 
this is a stupidly easy question -- I have no experience in using the 
fields.

Thanks again all, and especially Jeremy, for your great work on this 
software.  I work at one of the larger HPC centers in the US and can say 
that I am a happy daily user of TW5, and have even got a co-worker or two 
to try it out.

Best
-KS

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:27:07 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 The behaviour you are requesting was part of TiddlyWiki classic. 
 .. Transcluding tiddler sections and slices.

 This behaviour is removed from TW it there is probably no chance to get it 
 back. 

 I did run several recorded and several unrecorded attempts to convince 
 Jeremy to get them back ... with no success ... and some very good 
 reasoning from Jeremy. 

 hangout 8

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=a0UZfd48Ixc#t=4484

 hangout 20

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=8_-HhbEMiJ4#t=3671

 ...  So he probably convinced me :)

 The way to go with TW5 is different now. Just create smaller tiddlers with 
 tags and use the list widget to combine them afterwards. 
 The core functionality to do this is part of TW already. ... The problem 
 is, that the UI to make this stuff easy and convenient to use, is missing 
 at the moment. 

 So any help will be highly appreciated.

 have fun!
 mario


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[tw] Re: GistBox - worth checking out

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I discovered this app when I read how to use tiddlywiky as a standalone 
application. Maybe you find it the same way? The main problem with this one is, 
unlike tiddlywiky, it does not keep an offline copy of your gist. For me it is 
like using the web, so no advantage here. I will stick to tiddlywiky ;-) 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Yes, there is a way to do it and I strongly recommend you to use it. 

Just take a look at filters at tiddlywiky.com. You can start with the has 
filter wich will probably guide you in how to filter by field. 

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[tw] [TW5] Stylesheet issues

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Yes. 

It is because you are defining styles for the div container. That will affect 
all the divs of tiddlywiky. I recommend you to use a class for the divs you 
want to style. 

Regards. 

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[tw] Re: Emkay's visjs (Graph timelineplugin/graphwidget) doesn't seem to work with TW5.0.12..

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Could you give us the chrome console output? 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread PMario

This may be of interest: 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20eachday:%5B%5BFilterOperator%3A%20eachday%5D%5D%20%5B%5BFilterOperator%3A%20field%5D%5D

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Koh

As Danielo says, you can do things like:

{{{ [has[myfield]sort[created]] |viewtemplate}}}
{{{ [myfield[myvalue]sort[created]] |viewtemplate}}}

viewtemplate would be a template tiddler containing something like:

! $view field=title/

$transclude/



 Thanks again all, and especially Jeremy, for your great work on this
 software.  I work at one of the larger HPC centers in the US and can say
 that I am a happy daily user of TW5, and have even got a co-worker or two
 to try it out.


Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated. Spreading the word about
TiddlyWiki makes a big difference.

Best wishes

Jeremy




 Best
 -KS

 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:27:07 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 The behaviour you are requesting was part of TiddlyWiki classic.
 .. Transcluding tiddler sections and slices.

 This behaviour is removed from TW it there is probably no chance to get
 it back.

 I did run several recorded and several unrecorded attempts to convince
 Jeremy to get them back ... with no success ... and some very good
 reasoning from Jeremy.

 hangout 8
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=
 a0UZfd48Ixc#t=4484

 hangout 20
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=8_
 -HhbEMiJ4#t=3671

 ...  So he probably convinced me :)

 The way to go with TW5 is different now. Just create smaller tiddlers
 with tags and use the list widget to combine them afterwards.
 The core functionality to do this is part of TW already. ... The problem
 is, that the UI to make this stuff easy and convenient to use, is missing
 at the moment.

 So any help will be highly appreciated.

 have fun!
 mario

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 include external js/css in meta area

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

Talking about including documentation... Jeremy, I saw that you have
 included more addons in the Codemirror plugin. Would you consider
 explaining how to use them? I know how, but maybe not the average user.


I'm actually not really familiar with CodeMirror myself; I just lashed up
the initial plugin wrapper. I'd welcome documentation contributions on this.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




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Re: [tw] tiddlywiki update error on node.js

2014-05-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Steven

Apologies for the late reply. Are you still experiencing this problem? It
sounds like an issue with npm. If you're using OS X or Linux you'll need to
precede the npm upgrade command with sudo.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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 Hi,
 I updated TW 5.0.10 to 11 under node.js but after when I want to start the
 server it says TW is not recognized as an internal or external command,
 operable program or batch file How to correct this?
 I tried several times after to update TW with npm update -g tiddlywiki and
 check TW with tiddlywiki --version but always gives the same error
 message.
 Thanks,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transcluding tiddler sections by Headings

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi

I faced the same issue with unnecessarily cluttering the tag space when 
developing QD gTiD -- I resorted to using fields for most of the 
underlying mechanisms of gTiD.

The resulting (empty) effort may be seen here: http://gtid.tiddlyspot.com/

Have a look at the resulting 'More/Tags' tab :-) Try adding a few tickler 
folders, then go back to the 'More/Tags' tab.

regards
  
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:51:35 PM UTC+2, Koh wrote:

 After some thought, I have to agree that the best way to approach my 
 problem is to adapt to TW5s conventions of usage, and begin splitting my 
 daily work logs into smaller sections for each topic.  

 Previously, I'd have a tiddler for each day (5/23/14, 5/24/14, 5/25/14). 
  and tag them as log so I have a running list of them.

 Now, I will adapt and create a head tiddler for each day, still titled by 
 the date and tagged log, and then simply transclude all tiddlers with that 
 days date as a tag in.  

 The one issue I see with this is it will quickly begin to busy up my 
 tag-space if you will... To circumvent this is there anyway to use fields 
 much like tags in this sense?  That is, can you transclude a group of 
 tiddlers into one tiddler based upon their field values?  I apologize if 
 this is a stupidly easy question -- I have no experience in using the 
 fields.

 Thanks again all, and especially Jeremy, for your great work on this 
 software.  I work at one of the larger HPC centers in the US and can say 
 that I am a happy daily user of TW5, and have even got a co-worker or two 
 to try it out.

 Best
 -KS

 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:27:07 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 The behaviour you are requesting was part of TiddlyWiki classic. 
 .. Transcluding tiddler sections and slices.

 This behaviour is removed from TW it there is probably no chance to get 
 it back. 

 I did run several recorded and several unrecorded attempts to convince 
 Jeremy to get them back ... with no success ... and some very good 
 reasoning from Jeremy. 

 hangout 8

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=a0UZfd48Ixc#t=4484

 hangout 20

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=8_-HhbEMiJ4#t=3671

 ...  So he probably convinced me :)

 The way to go with TW5 is different now. Just create smaller tiddlers 
 with tags and use the list widget to combine them afterwards. 
 The core functionality to do this is part of TW already. ... The problem 
 is, that the UI to make this stuff easy and convenient to use, is missing 
 at the moment. 

 So any help will be highly appreciated.

 have fun!
 mario



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[tw] Re: Configuration for Autosave, node.js, Dropbox, Windows, Linux, OSX

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi Danielo

I was thinking more along the lines of a cron job -- saving periodically. I 
suppose it must be possible to get the tracking across from node.js to git 
via a script, but have never attempted this. 

The other option is to use tiddlywiki node.js commands to save the node.js 
version to Dropbox -- again I haven't attempted this as yet.

regards

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:59:35 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello Matabelle 

 I tried with git, but I don't get any automatic track of changes. The main 
 problem is that git does not track new files automatically, so I have to 
 run git add every time I create a tiddler. Even if I use git add *.tid. How 
 did you do it? 

 I don't want to manually backup a standalone version to Dropbox. What I 
 want is node doing it automatically on every edit. Maybe a bit overload but 
 I think my computer can take care of it. Do you know hot to accomplish 
 this? 



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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi Danielo

Thanks, that would be appreciated -- it would be much cleaner to stack 
successive $setfield widgets without having to intersperse $fieldset 
widgets.

regards

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:26:48 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 I have to digg into your code, but maybe you are not stopping the event 
 propagation. If so your widget will get the same message twice. I'm not 
 sure about this and I don't remember exactly how this works. I studied it a 
 while ago and I think that I understood it then. Just let me check. 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Server hosted on nodejs - syncer warning

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,sorry for the offtopic 
Could you please explain your configuration further? What does it you allow to 
do? Do you also need some kind of dynamic DNS?

I'm specially interested in the Synology configuration. How did you set up 
node.js on the NAS? 
Thanks in advance. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] A 'New Here' button

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hi Matabelle 

Glad it is useful for you. Maybe a clear widget could be handy. But better when 
the newtiddler functionality becames official. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Complete beginner, need to make a table of contents

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello mans

Could you please explain me why do you need to use te tag operator twice with 
the same value here :

$list filter=[!has[draft.of]tag[Act]tag[Act]!prefix[$]] 
-[[Act]]{{!!title||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}/$list

Seems to work but I don't understand why 

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Re: [tw] Re: Configuration for Autosave, node.js, Dropbox, Windows, Linux, OSX

2014-05-27 Thread Matthew Petty
I have updated to 5.0.12-beta, and the autosave now works. That's great!
For now, then, I will stick with it as it is.
Thanks for your help,
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On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Matabele matabele.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Danielo

 I was thinking more along the lines of a cron job -- saving periodically.
 I suppose it must be possible to get the tracking across from node.js to
 git via a script, but have never attempted this.

 The other option is to use tiddlywiki node.js commands to save the node.js
 version to Dropbox -- again I haven't attempted this as yet.

 regards


 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:59:35 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello Matabelle

 I tried with git, but I don't get any automatic track of changes. The
 main problem is that git does not track new files automatically, so I have
 to run git add every time I create a tiddler. Even if I use git add *.tid.
 How did you do it?

 I don't want to manually backup a standalone version to Dropbox. What I
 want is node doing it automatically on every edit. Maybe a bit overload but
 I think my computer can take care of it. Do you know hot to accomplish
 this?

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.0.12-beta

2014-05-27 Thread Leo Staley
Hi Danielo,

TagSearch is a bit of a misnomer. It's not really a tool for searching for 
tags, but rather a dropdown box to select (or even deselect) tags for a 
tiddler. 

You can find it here: http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/

Here is an example of it live, http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#desk. Hover 
over a tiddler, and check out the x-tagger (which is the old name of it, 
but for Tobi's tbGTD, he kept the old name while switching to TagSearch).

It's a way to quickly and easily tag tiddlers with common tags, from a list 
(rather, a set of lists) which you determine in the config tiddler. I think 
there are some great improvements that could be made to it (like the option 
to activate it on hover, instead of clicking, and additional tags available 
on hover inside the tagsearch box), but it is easily the best tagging tool 
for TWC, and the main way I tag my tiddlers. I use it to help maintain a 
useful hierarchy of tags, like you find at 
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html and 
http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/.  


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 Hello David and Leo, 

 Maybe you ddon't know but I made a plugin for searching by tag. If it is 
 not what you expect let me know what do you miss. 

 You can ccheck it at braintest.tiddlyspot.com 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Custom images/icons on internal links

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Can this work with normal svg images? I like the font awesome icons but I'm 
worried about compatibility. So for each link you have to create a new 
tiddler with the title and a field called class? how do you manage this?

Would you consider to post a public online example?

El domingo, 18 de mayo de 2014 13:21:29 UTC+2, Frederico Jeronimo escribió:

 Thanks Stephan. This works like a charm. :)

 Ah, it seems that copy pasting images directly in the Google Group's 
 editor does not upload them when posting (they do display in the preview 
 though) so they are all missing from my original post. I will try again by 
 using the *Insert Image* macro instead now.

 Sorry for the confusion about the category tags. They are completely 
 normal TW5 user tags that simply have a different semantic value in my own 
 wiki. They act as both a visual indication and grouping of tiddlers of the 
 same type (e.g. for example all tiddlers that contain definitions of 
 concepts have the 'definition' category tag and all the ones that contain 
 ideas for future implementation are flagged with 'idea'). 

 They have an unique colour (purple) and individual icons to differentiate 
 betwen them. Other than that, just plain TW5 user tags. Here's one example 
 tag pill  (hopefully image uploads this time):


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-z_pe93--FUA/U3iSREAHxiI/AAw/E85U_1f4XOo/s1600/TW5-NoteCategoryTag.png


 I was originally thinking of using them here to avoid duplicating data 
 (e.g. all tiddlers with 'Note' tag will automatically have the same link 
 icon) but having an extra class field as you suggested works perfectly (can 
 be a bit more error prone for the user but perfectly manageable).

 It's pretty much as Stephan explained, but if anyone is interested in how 
 this is working for me, here it is for reference (uses Font 
 Awesomehttp://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/
 ):

 1. CSS

 /* Missing links in red */
 a.tw-tiddlylink-missing
 {
 color: #af;
 }

 /* All external links with the same icon */
 a.tw-tiddlylink-external::before
 {
 content: \f0eb;  /* Font Awesome icon: fa-lightbulb-o */
 }

 span.book  a:before 
 {
 color: blue;
 content: \f02d;  /* Font Awesome icon: fa-book */
 }

 span.calendar  a:before 
 {
 color: blue;
 content: \f073;  /* Font Awesome icon: fa-calendar */
 }
 /* [...] As needed */


 2. mylink tiddler

 The simplified version works perfectly:

 span class={{!!class}}$link$view field=title//$link/span


 3. Target tiddlers

 Then I created two tiddlers with class fields : *Meeting with Anna 
 (class=calendar)* and *Dystopian futures in science fiction (class=book)*.

 4. Links themselves

 {{Dystopian futures in science fiction||mylink}}br
 {{Meeting with Anna||mylink}}

 leads to (image):


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BFoT5X47EHo/U3iU4PdKmaI/ABE/DuuMratbfy4/s1600/TW5-Example.png


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Re: [tw] Last call - anyone want tiddlywikiguides.org?

2014-05-27 Thread Andreas Hahn
True. I was thinking of updating it and making it a resource for TW5 not 
unlike tiddlytools, but I haven't worked out any details of what I want 
to do yet. (Which is also because I am relatively new to TW and only 
getting started with it in many regards)


But of course, I won't get in your way, if you want to pick it up Stephan.

/Andreas

@Daniel: If Stephan does not take it, send me the AuthCode and 
everything I else I need to know to transfer it to my Provider and I 
will try to initiate the transfer as soon as possible.


Am 27.05.2014 12:30, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
As Daniel suggests, it might be reasonable to just redirect to 
tiddlywiki.com http://tiddlywiki.com, and avoid having any content 
at all.


Best wishes

Jeremy.


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I just checked with my 2 providers and it's 14,95€ per year +
9,95€ once (1st. Provider) or 17,40€ per year (2nd Provider).

While this isn't too much, this is the domain only. I have no
Webspace then. And I really do not want to handle the content.

So if someone else would manage the content on a his webspace, I'm
thinking about buying the domains.




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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.0.12-beta

2014-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El martes, 27 de mayo de 2014 23:52:00 UTC+2, Leo Staley escribió:

 Hi Danielo,

 Here is an example of it live, http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#desk. Hover 
 over a tiddler, and check out the x-tagger (which is the old name of it, 
 but for Tobi's tbGTD, he kept the old name while switching to TagSearch).

 It's a way to quickly and easily tag tiddlers with common tags, from a 
 list (rather, a set of lists) which you determine in the config tiddler. I 
 think there are some great improvements that could be made to it (like the 
 option to activate it on hover, instead of clicking, and additional tags 
 available on hover inside the tagsearch box), but it is easily the best 
 tagging tool for TWC, and the main way I tag my tiddlers. I use it to help 
 maintain a useful hierarchy of tags, like you find at 
 http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html and 
 http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/.  


Wow! It's awesome what is available for TWC. So much information confuses 
me. That is one of the reasons I started using TW5, it was much easier to 
start from scratch. The encrypt plugin is awesome. The only problem with 
TWC is that the style is so old fashioned and, at least for me, so complex 
to configure... 

I hope some day TW5 have all those features.  

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

2014-05-27 Thread BJ
I'm not sure if redistribution of vextab is allowed, on 
http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/ it says:
 
VexTab is an open specification and the reference implementation is open 
source. It is freely available complete and uncrippled for non-commercial 
use. 

If you would like to use this code on commercial websites, products, 
plugins, or tools, please get in touch with me. (I'm very reasonable.) 

Note that the underlying library, VexFlow, is completely open source and 
distributed under the MIT license. 

?
BJ

On Monday, May 26, 2014 10:44:54 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to 
 turn into a TW5 widget.

 There's a TiddlyWiki hangout due tomorrow at 4pm BST, if any interested 
 parties would be able to show up I'd be happy to talk you through what 
 would be involved.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Yakov yakov.litv...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Hi Russ,

 if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab, 
 I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic 
 only, unfortunately.

 Best regards,
 Yakov.

 суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:

 Hi Mans

 I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long 
 time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of 
 reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago 
 but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are 
 thin to say the least.

 Somewhere grin I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them 
 out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.

 Russ


  On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns huma...@gmail.com wrote:

 seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as 
 all it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...

 See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html

 I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer 
 who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?

 Thank you for sharing Russ :-)

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi Russ

 Have you seen 
 http://www.vexflow.com/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vexflow.com%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHRWIHpWVf9zzpk56UpTRW88gDRhg?
   When you're there, check out vextab, also.


 Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
 musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
 Very nice :-)

  I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...

 This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html   

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.0.12-beta

2014-05-27 Thread Matabele
Hi

I have used a similar idea in my QD gTiD: http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/

Here I used fields rather than tags for some of the structure to avoid 
cluttering the tag space unnecessarily. The 'tagbar' on the tickler folders 
could be modified into a drop down menu with the full range of tags -- 
similar to that of the 'Tasks' tab.

An empty version (to play around with) may be found 
here: http://gtid.tiddlyspot.com/

(I am busy updating these examples to TW v5.0.12-beta) 

regards

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:52:00 PM UTC+2, Leo Staley wrote:

 Hi Danielo,

 TagSearch is a bit of a misnomer. It's not really a tool for searching for 
 tags, but rather a dropdown box to select (or even deselect) tags for a 
 tiddler. 

 You can find it here: http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/

 Here is an example of it live, http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#desk. Hover 
 over a tiddler, and check out the x-tagger (which is the old name of it, 
 but for Tobi's tbGTD, he kept the old name while switching to TagSearch).

 It's a way to quickly and easily tag tiddlers with common tags, from a 
 list (rather, a set of lists) which you determine in the config tiddler. I 
 think there are some great improvements that could be made to it (like the 
 option to activate it on hover, instead of clicking, and additional tags 
 available on hover inside the tagsearch box), but it is easily the best 
 tagging tool for TWC, and the main way I tag my tiddlers. I use it to help 
 maintain a useful hierarchy of tags, like you find at 
 http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html and 
 http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/.  


 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:59:37 AM UTC-7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello David and Leo, 

 Maybe you ddon't know but I made a plugin for searching by tag. If it is 
 not what you expect let me know what do you miss. 

 You can ccheck it at braintest.tiddlyspot.com 

 Kind regards 



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