[tw] Re: [TW5] What are the barebones tiddlers

2014-11-11 Thread Matabele
Hi

Try pasting this into the address bar of a blank browser window :-)

data:text/html, html contenteditable

regards

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 andrew.j.harrison84 andrew.j@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
 I'm going to be transporting my stand alone tiddlywiki and I want to know 
 what I can remove to leave a barebones file. Since I still want to be able 
 to use the upgrade mechanism I have been removing text from tiddlers and 
 tagging them as deleted so they don't come back in when I upgrade but I am 
 worried I might break something. Is there a list of barebones tiddlers? I 
 wish I could see a graphical relationship of variables, classes, messages, 
 tags, etc.




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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Stephan Hradek
I just did a quick check, because I think it might become useful for me.

This is what I noticed: When I add a new node and change its name, it 
hops away and  I need to find it in the graph.

The idea I have, how I could be using it:

We have several hosts which interconnects. My idea is to have nodes for 
each computer. Each computer has one or more applications. Each application 
has some configuration files and in each file there is a configuration 
value which would point to another computer.

I'd love to visualize this somehow, so that I could see the network of 
connections and being able to pinpoint the configuration endpoints of each 
connection.

Do you think this is feasible with your plugin?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Mat
Ah, embarassing; Firefox is set up, probably by me, to ask if I wish to 
open the file or save it. I simply opened it, thus in Firefox, which showed 
the strange layut. My bad.

However, another potential issue; Opening the csv in LibreOffice Calc warns 
that the maximum number of characters per cell is exceeded for csv. Looking 
at the result I can't really tell, it appears ok. I have not investigated 
closer, maybe it's some setting or possibly a LibreOffice limitation. But 
can I ask which are the names of some of the largest tiddlers that should 
appear there and I'll try to see of they appear ok or not. 

:-)

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:48:53 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Mat

 In exporting to CSV, an looking at tiddler Adding a Twitter Follow 
 button I notice the code samples are not transferred but in it's place 
 there's an empty frame (the iframe?) showing. (You'll find it immediately 
 in the CSV if you scroll down.)
 Maybe this is standard behaviour, I have no idea.


 I can't reproduce that issue. I've just exported Adding a Twitter Follow 
 button to CSV both as a single file and via exporting the all tiddlers. In 
 both cases, the content in the CSV file matches the content I see in edit 
 mode. Are you reviewing the CSV file in a text editor, or looking at what's 
 displayed in a spreadsheet app?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


  


 :-)


 On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:43:39 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I've started work on implementing a new export button, and thought it 
 was worth getting some feedback before the release of 5.1.5.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 You can try out the new feature at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 The export button appears as both a page control toolbar button to 
 export all tiddlers and as a tiddler toolbar button to export an individual 
 tiddler. For ease of testing the export button is shown by default in the 
 prerelease, but it will be hidden by default in 5.1.5. The export button 
 also appears in the results of the advanced search filter tab, allowing 
 you to export matching tiddlers in a single operation.

 The button initially supports exporting as static HTML, CSV, JSON or 
 `.tid` file.

 Issues I've found with it so far:

 * OS X Numbers refuses to open CSV files that have been generated in 
 Chrome, because it thinks they’ve been downloaded from the Internet. 
 Firefox works OK
 * The export button won’t work within the tiddler info panel, or from 
 the *more* popup (this is because TW5 doesn’t currently support nested 
 popups)

 There are more details in the commit:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/
 6fc5c70ace43219710983f6d9640f4b01d620908

 I'd be interested to learn how you get on using exported CSV files in 
 other apps, and any suggestions or improvements.

 Best wishes

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[tw] Re: Codemirror Documentation

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Erwan,

Would you consider contributing to code-mirror plugin documentation with 
your detailed explanation? I find it very concise and useful and it is 
already wrote. 

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[tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki5 in giewiki?

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Giewiki is cool, but looks an abandoned project.

Could you explain me the differences between Giewiki and tiddlyspace ?

El lunes, 10 de noviembre de 2014 20:14:01 UTC+1, Chad escribió:

 Has anyone implemented giewiki with TiddlyWiki5? If so, I'm interested in 
 learning the necessary steps to implement it. Thank you.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Stephan,

This is what I noticed: When I add a new node and change its name, it 
 hops away and  I need to find it in the graph.


Yes, I know. This will be fixed. Also, each view/graph will save the 
coordinates of the nodes it contains. At the moment everything changes 
after a repaint().
 

 We have several hosts which interconnects. My idea is to have nodes for 
 each computer. Each computer has one or more applications. Each application 
 has some configuration files and in each file there is a configuration 
 value which would point to another computer.

 I'd love to visualize this somehow, so that I could see the network of 
 connections and being able to pinpoint the configuration endpoints of each 
 connection.


Well, you can represent everything that has a graph structure and you are 
able to create your own relationship types. In addition, i will soon enable 
a feature that you can store a http:// (or any other protocol) link in a 
node, so when you click on a title you switch to a desired webpage. Maybe 
this is what you want? Then you can connect wikis with permalinks and 
bridge the networks encapsulated in several independent wikis.

Regards Felix

 


 Do you think this is feasible with your plugin?


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Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Daniel,

thanks for the feedback.
 

 I think you might need to eat scroll events after your map sees them, when 
 I scroll vertically on a map (using two-finger-scroll on my Mac trackpad), 
 it zooms the map, but also scrolls the column of tiddlers.


I have no touchpad but as soon as I get my hands on one, I will try to 
verify that and change the code.

Regards
Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Felix,

Thank you very much for this. I did not play enough with your plugin yet. I 
love the snapshot function. As usual, I have a couple of suggestions:

   1. As daniel said, the zoom thing is a problem. I used to scroll the 
   page with the mouse in the middle, so wen I reach plugin window I start to 
   zoom out until I realize what am I doing. I would prefer to use zoom 
   buttons. May this can be an option?
   2. Could you please provide the hability to use caption or subtitle 
   fields for the displayed name in the graph? This have many uses like giving 
   short names to long title tiddlers and having tiddlers that I want to hide 
   from the normal search with $:/ . This is very useful if you want to use 
   your plugin just for creating graphs and you don't want to full your 
   tiddler naming space with empty tiddlers.


Regards.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Alex Hough
Felix,

Could each edge be a tiddler?

The type of edge could be depends on etc. but the tiddler itself would
detail the complexities of that dependancy. In a complex system the
interweaving of dependancies is a key aspect - one which mind mapping
software does not cater for.

best wishes

Alex

On 11 November 2014 09:01, Felix Küppers felixkuepp...@hotmail.de wrote:

 Hi Daniel,

 thanks for the feedback.


 I think you might need to eat scroll events after your map sees them,
 when I scroll vertically on a map (using two-finger-scroll on my Mac
 trackpad), it zooms the map, but also scrolls the column of tiddlers.


 I have no touchpad but as soon as I get my hands on one, I will try to
 verify that and change the code.

 Regards
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:50:01 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:

 However, another potential issue; Opening the csv in LibreOffice Calc 
 warns that the maximum number of characters per cell is exceeded for csv. 
 Looking at the result I can't really tell, it appears ok. I have not 
 investigated closer, maybe it's some setting or possibly a LibreOffice 
 limitation. But can I ask which are the names of some of the largest 
 tiddlers that should appear there and I'll try to see of they appear ok or 
 not. 


It seems to be 64kByte see: http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/8980
So there shouldn't be  a problem, except for the /all template tiddlers. 

-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread PMario
Hi Felix,
Well done! But I'd be more interested in a github link for contribution. 
-m

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[tw] Re: Codemirror Documentation

2014-11-11 Thread Erwan Dano
Hi Danielo,

To be honest, I originally intended on contributing to the documentation. 
Then I was scared off by the amount of steps I had to follow.
I don't mind somebody else doing a copy-paste of what I have written and 
doing a pull request to improve the documentation. So if someone feels like 
doing it that would be great.
But sure, I'll definitely give it a try later this week when I have some 
spare time.

Regards

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 Hello Erwan,

 Would you consider contributing to code-mirror plugin documentation with 
 your detailed explanation? I find it very concise and useful and it is 
 already wrote. 

 Regards.


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Alex Hough
I think there's some confusion with the download button. Maybe *it* should
have the pop up with the options and the node version have a different
mechanism to show that saving has occurred

Alex

On 11 November 2014 10:56, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:50:01 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:

 However, another potential issue; Opening the csv in LibreOffice Calc
 warns that the maximum number of characters per cell is exceeded for csv.
 Looking at the result I can't really tell, it appears ok. I have not
 investigated closer, maybe it's some setting or possibly a LibreOffice
 limitation. But can I ask which are the names of some of the largest
 tiddlers that should appear there and I'll try to see of they appear ok or
 not.


 It seems to be 64kByte see: http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/8980
 So there shouldn't be  a problem, except for the /all template tiddlers.

 -m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to uninstall a plugin ?

2014-11-11 Thread Alberto Molina
Thanks Ton!

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Alex

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think there's some confusion with the download button.


The way that both the save and export buttons have icons that look like
boxes containing an arrow is problematic.

It's hard to avoid an icon along these lines for export because it's
pretty standard. But maybe we could explore alternatives for the save
icon. Originally, the save icon was designed to look like a download
icon because, of course, some of the time that's what it does.


 Maybe *it* should have the pop up with the options and the node version
 have a different mechanism to show that saving has occurred


I'm not sure what you mean? If the save icon bought up a dropdown then
presumably that would mean it would take two clicks to save, which doesn't
seem desirable.

Best wishes

Jeremy



 Alex

 On 11 November 2014 10:56, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:50:01 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:

 However, another potential issue; Opening the csv in LibreOffice Calc
 warns that the maximum number of characters per cell is exceeded for csv.
 Looking at the result I can't really tell, it appears ok. I have not
 investigated closer, maybe it's some setting or possibly a LibreOffice
 limitation. But can I ask which are the names of some of the largest
 tiddlers that should appear there and I'll try to see of they appear ok or
 not.


 It seems to be 64kByte see: http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/8980
 So there shouldn't be  a problem, except for the /all template tiddlers.

 -m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Jeremy,

Looks great to me.

The only thing I saw was when exporting as 'Plain text.tid tiddler file' 
only A Thesis Notebook by Alberto Molina was exported. I can imagine that 
only 1 tiddler will be exported (if that is what was intended) but how can 
you export a certain tiddler instead of just the first one in the list?
Minor issue: the tooltip of the export icon shows 'Export all tiddlers' 
what is not true in the case of 'Plain text.tid tiddler file'.

Tested with Windows 7 + Firefox 33.1

Cheers,

Ton


On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:43:39 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I've started work on implementing a new export button, and thought it was 
 worth getting some feedback before the release of 5.1.5.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 You can try out the new feature at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 The export button appears as both a page control toolbar button to export 
 all tiddlers and as a tiddler toolbar button to export an individual 
 tiddler. For ease of testing the export button is shown by default in the 
 prerelease, but it will be hidden by default in 5.1.5. The export button 
 also appears in the results of the advanced search filter tab, allowing 
 you to export matching tiddlers in a single operation.

 The button initially supports exporting as static HTML, CSV, JSON or 
 `.tid` file.

 Issues I've found with it so far:

 * OS X Numbers refuses to open CSV files that have been generated in 
 Chrome, because it thinks they’ve been downloaded from the Internet. 
 Firefox works OK
 * The export button won’t work within the tiddler info panel, or from the 
 *more* popup (this is because TW5 doesn’t currently support nested popups)

 There are more details in the commit:


 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/6fc5c70ace43219710983f6d9640f4b01d620908

 I'd be interested to learn how you get on using exported CSV files in 
 other apps, and any suggestions or improvements.

 Best wishes

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Felix,

Awesome.

Cheers,

Ton

On Monday, November 10, 2014 11:54:07 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Here is a working demo:

 http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/

 Scroll down to see two examples.

 The network works really smooth in Chrome.
 Firefox sometimes interrupts the motion of the graph if many nodes are 
 display.

 Hope you like it :)

 Felix


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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi PMario,

thanks.

The link will follow this week.

Regards Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers
Hola Danielo,

Thank you very much for this. I did not play enough with your plugin yet. I 
 love the snapshot function. 


Thanks!
 

 As usual, I have a couple of suggestions:


...I expected it :) 


1. As daniel said, the zoom thing is a problem. I used to scroll the 
page with the mouse in the middle, so wen I reach plugin window I start to 
zoom out until I realize what am I doing. I would prefer to use zoom 
buttons. May this can be an option?

 yes, I agree.


1. Could you please provide the hability to use caption or subtitle 
fields for the displayed name in the graph? This have many uses like 
 giving 
short names to long title tiddlers and having tiddlers that I want to hide 
from the normal search with $:/ . This is very useful if you want to use 
your plugin just for creating graphs and you don't want to full your 
tiddler naming space with empty tiddlers.


yes, I could make it possible to let the node title be read from a caption 
field. If it doesn't exist, I will use the Title as fallback.
However it is not possible to give nodes different names in different 
views. that would be too complex to manage and to trace updates.

regards felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:48:54 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 The link will follow this week.


:)

You should also update the vis.js library, to the latest version, which has 
proper lizensing for TW plugins :)
There should be no conflicts anymore :)

see: https://github.com/almende/vis/issues/285#issuecomment-61915620

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Ton

The only thing I saw was when exporting as 'Plain text.tid tiddler file'
 only A Thesis Notebook by Alberto Molina was exported. I can imagine that
 only 1 tiddler will be exported (if that is what was intended) but how can
 you export a certain tiddler instead of just the first one in the list?


The .tid file format can only contain a single tiddler. So when you use the
page export button you end up with a .tid file containing just the first
tiddler.

To export a specific tiddler, just navigate to that tiddler and then use
the tiddler export button in the tiddler toolbar button.

Minor issue: the tooltip of the export icon shows 'Export all tiddlers'
 what is not true in the case of 'Plain text.tid tiddler file'.


Yes, that's frustrating but I'm not sure what we can do about it. Maybe we
could disable the .tid export format when multiple tiddlers are being
exported, so it would only appear on the tiddler export dropdown.

Best wishes

Jeremy




 Tested with Windows 7 + Firefox 33.1

 Cheers,

 Ton


 On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:43:39 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I've started work on implementing a new export button, and thought it was
 worth getting some feedback before the release of 5.1.5.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 You can try out the new feature at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 The export button appears as both a page control toolbar button to export
 all tiddlers and as a tiddler toolbar button to export an individual
 tiddler. For ease of testing the export button is shown by default in the
 prerelease, but it will be hidden by default in 5.1.5. The export button
 also appears in the results of the advanced search filter tab, allowing
 you to export matching tiddlers in a single operation.

 The button initially supports exporting as static HTML, CSV, JSON or
 `.tid` file.

 Issues I've found with it so far:

 * OS X Numbers refuses to open CSV files that have been generated in
 Chrome, because it thinks they’ve been downloaded from the Internet.
 Firefox works OK
 * The export button won’t work within the tiddler info panel, or from the
 *more* popup (this is because TW5 doesn’t currently support nested popups)

 There are more details in the commit:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/
 6fc5c70ace43219710983f6d9640f4b01d620908

 I'd be interested to learn how you get on using exported CSV files in
 other apps, and any suggestions or improvements.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers

Thanks ton 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Alex
 

 Could each edge be a tiddler?

 The type of edge could be depends on etc. but the tiddler itself would 
 detail the complexities of that dependancy. In a complex system the 
 interweaving of dependancies is a key aspect - one which mind mapping 
 software does not cater for.


Because I am a huge fan of the semantic web, ontologies and rdf triples 
(where edges may be literals or nodes) I thought about it for a long time 
at the beginning.
I decided to reject the idea and to store all edges of the same kind in a 
single tiddler to allow quick parsing and make it possible to rename all 
edges by simply renaming the tiddler. (try it by clicking on an edge, 
renaming the edgeStore and restart).

I thought nobody would even care describing relations. Its the same case 
with tags in tiddlywiki. you don't bother to describe tags.

It would add an extra level of complexity and I already implemented the 
other way.

But I serously consider your input and I may change it in the future after 
I am done with the basics and have more time.

Regards
Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Tobias Beer
Nice stuff,

one bug I noticed when deleting anything I get an *Internal Javascript 
Error: undefined is not a function*... in Chrome.

- tb


On Monday, 10 November 2014 23:54:07 UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Here is a working demo:

 http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/

 Scroll down to see two examples.

 The network works really smooth in Chrome.
 Firefox sometimes interrupts the motion of the graph if many nodes are 
 display.

 Hope you like it :)

 Felix


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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers


 You should also update the vis.js library, to the latest version, which 
 has proper lizensing for TW plugins :)
 There should be no conflicts anymore :)


Oh, thanks for paving the way :) Never thought about licensing issues.

I blushed a bit when you were speaking so positively about my plugin in 
your last post at vis :)

Regards
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] drop here or click escape to cancel

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
There's an outstanding bug with Firefox where the drop banner doesn't
disappear when a drag and drop is cancelled:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/686

Best wishes

Jeremy



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richardwilliamsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've noticed that the green bar seems to persist regardless of clicking
 escape. It used to be intermittent and now it seems to never go away
 (Firefox, standalone).

 Regards,
 Richard

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Tobias

thanks for the feedback

one bug I noticed when deleting anything I get an *Internal Javascript 
 Error: undefined is not a function*... in Chrome.


this is on purpose to scare people off that want to delete their nodes.

seriously: yeah I will fix that :)

Regards
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Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:07:26 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 I thought nobody would even care describing relations. Its the same case 
 with tags in tiddlywiki. you don't bother to describe tags.


That's not really true. If you need to explain your TWs to users, it's the 
easiest way to tell them, what the tag is for. 
 

 It would add an extra level of complexity and I already implemented the 
 other way.


I see your point. With every design decision you have some pros and cons :)
 

 But I serously consider your input and I may change it in the future after 
 I am done with the basics and have more time.


That's why the possibility for contributions will be nice.  But I think 
we shouldn't block your study :)

have fun!
mario


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Jeremy,

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:06:38 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Ton

 The only thing I saw was when exporting as 'Plain text.tid tiddler file' 
 only A Thesis Notebook by Alberto Molina was exported. I can imagine that 
 only 1 tiddler will be exported (if that is what was intended) but how can 
 you export a certain tiddler instead of just the first one in the list?


 The .tid file format can only contain a single tiddler. So when you use 
 the page export button you end up with a .tid file containing just the 
 first tiddler.

 To export a specific tiddler, just navigate to that tiddler and then use 
 the tiddler export button in the tiddler toolbar button.

 Minor issue: the tooltip of the export icon shows 'Export all tiddlers' 
 what is not true in the case of 'Plain text.tid tiddler file'.


 Yes, that's frustrating but I'm not sure what we can do about it. Maybe we 
 could disable the .tid export format when multiple tiddlers are being 
 exported, so it would only appear on the tiddler export dropdown.


I forgot there was an export button (with the right tooltip and meaning - 
just one tiddler) in the Viewtoolbar.
Maybe better to leave out 'Plain text.tid tiddler file' from the dropdown 
menu of the Pagecontrol Export button?

Cheers,

Ton


 Best wishes

 Jeremy

  


 Tested with Windows 7 + Firefox 33.1

 Cheers,

 Ton


 On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:43:39 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I've started work on implementing a new export button, and thought it 
 was worth getting some feedback before the release of 5.1.5.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 You can try out the new feature at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 The export button appears as both a page control toolbar button to 
 export all tiddlers and as a tiddler toolbar button to export an individual 
 tiddler. For ease of testing the export button is shown by default in the 
 prerelease, but it will be hidden by default in 5.1.5. The export button 
 also appears in the results of the advanced search filter tab, allowing 
 you to export matching tiddlers in a single operation.

 The button initially supports exporting as static HTML, CSV, JSON or 
 `.tid` file.

 Issues I've found with it so far:

 * OS X Numbers refuses to open CSV files that have been generated in 
 Chrome, because it thinks they’ve been downloaded from the Internet. 
 Firefox works OK
 * The export button won’t work within the tiddler info panel, or from 
 the *more* popup (this is because TW5 doesn’t currently support nested 
 popups)

 There are more details in the commit:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/
 6fc5c70ace43219710983f6d9640f4b01d620908

 I'd be interested to learn how you get on using exported CSV files in 
 other apps, and any suggestions or improvements.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-11 Thread steve
Mark:

The imageit macro works, it generates an image outline, that when clicked 
shows the full image.  

Is there a way to simply have an image displayed in the tiddler without 
having to click a link?

Thanks
Steve Wharton

On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:22:20 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:

 You could roll your own macro that would do some of that:

 \define imageit(image:image.jpg)
 a href=$image$ target=newimg src=$image$ width=25% height=25% 
 //a
 \end

 e.g. 

 imageit TW-Images\chimps_77646868_3patrol.jpg

 This produces a 1/4 size clickable thumb (no actual thumb is generated).

 To actually generate a thumb would probably take a FF plugin.

 The tiddlyclip plugin (http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/) can capture 
 screenshots of  web pages, BTW.


 On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:57:50 AM UTC-8, steve wrote:

 Hi

 I am using TW5 to write documentation for a application and I would like 
 to embed screenshots in the text
 So far I am able to have a clickable link to the image (see below)

 [ext[App Screenshot|./externalFiles/image.tiff]]

 What I would really like to do is:
 * have the image displayed in the tiddler without having to click on a 
 link (good);
 * have a thumbnail of the image displayed; click on thumbnail to see the 
 full resolution image (better)
 * generate the thumbnail on the fly without having to a separate 
 thumbnail image; click on the thumbnail to see the full resolution image 
 (best)

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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-11 Thread steve
Mario

I am using the high resolution tiff format for now because that is what is 
generated by the Mac OS grab utility.
In practice I would switch to another smaller image format.

Thanks
Steve Wharton

On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:31:14 PM UTC-5, PMario wrote:

 On Monday, November 10, 2014 7:57:50 PM UTC+1, steve wrote:

 I am using TW5 to write documentation for a application and I would like 
 to embed screenshots in the text
 So far I am able to have a clickable link to the image (see below)

 [ext[App Screenshot|./externalFiles/image.tiff]]


 Hi Steve,
 Is there a reason, why you use .tiff images. They tend to be really big. 
 -m


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Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Alex Hough
Hi Felix,

The workaround for me would be to create a separate type for each
connection i want to annotate. Another way would be to new here or clone
the edge tiddler and link to the two tiddlers joined together


Alex

On 11 November 2014 12:07, Felix Küppers felixkuepp...@hotmail.de wrote:

 Hi Alex


 Could each edge be a tiddler?

 The type of edge could be depends on etc. but the tiddler itself would
 detail the complexities of that dependancy. In a complex system the
 interweaving of dependancies is a key aspect - one which mind mapping
 software does not cater for.


 Because I am a huge fan of the semantic web, ontologies and rdf triples
 (where edges may be literals or nodes) I thought about it for a long time
 at the beginning.
 I decided to reject the idea and to store all edges of the same kind in a
 single tiddler to allow quick parsing and make it possible to rename all
 edges by simply renaming the tiddler. (try it by clicking on an edge,
 renaming the edgeStore and restart).

 I thought nobody would even care describing relations. Its the same case
 with tags in tiddlywiki. you don't bother to describe tags.


The new here  function does this


 It would add an extra level of complexity and I already implemented the
 other way.

 But I serously consider your input and I may change it in the future after
 I am done with the basics and have more time.

 Regards
 Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-11 Thread Tobias Beer
Hey Felix,

It's a really neat plugin for tiddler representation with lots of potential,

There are some things I would perhaps reconsider architecturally, one being 
the dependency of views on tags.

To me, a graph displays relations between tiddlers and the overhead of 
having to use dedicated tags to relate tiddlers to a given view seems 
redundant, to some extend bloating a tiddlers metadata.

So, my train of thought is... Why not keep those graph views as a 
self-contained entities that are independent from the tiddlers they 
represent, in terms of constraint requirements?

While being able to filter a view based on tags sure is a great feature, I 
would say that to actually model a view should not (necessarily) depend on 
a given tag-filter constraint. Why? Because, at some point you eventually 
may want a whole range of constraints, e.g. field constraints with tiddlers 
having field x of value y or some value = z, etc... or a modified date  
dadada.

Makes sense?

Perhaps it's a question of how the workflow of modeling a graph is 
envisioned.

For me it's this:

   - define view (name ...may at some point even require an additional 
   category(tag) )
   - add / create nodes (easily select existing tids)
   - add / define edges

So, these questions may be interesting to perhaps (re)consider...

   - What defines the set of nodes that are represented in a graph?
   - Are edges part of a dedicated view?
  - In other words, do I want all edges in a view, just because some 
  (tag)filter expression says the corresponding tiddlers match?
  - Or: How could I make differentent kinds of edges appear in 
  different views with the same tiddlers?
   
Right now, I guess, it is all set up such that the nodes and actions are 
global, i.e. all views share the same underlying node-tree... a paradigm 
that might be challenged at some point and begging for a solution as to: How 
can we model independent node-trees on the same tiddler metadata?

- tb

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Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Felix, 

This is GREAT!!! 
Warm thanks! 

Alberto 

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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-11 Thread steve
An Update:

I tried a number of ways (see below) to display the images screenshot.jpg 
and screenshot.tiff in a tiddler. The files screenshot.jpg and 
screenshot.tiff are in the same directory as the html file. I'm using 
Firefox. The problem appears to be the .tiff format

1. The following successfully displays the screenshot.JPG image. 
img src=screenshot.JPG width=50% height=50%

2. The imageit macro does work with the screenshot.JPG image, but it opens 
the full image in a new tab.
imageit screenshot.jpg

3. The following does not display the screenshot.tiff image. 
img src=screenshot.tiff width=50% height=50%

4. The imageit macro kind of works with the screenshot.tiff image. It shows 
an outline. If you click on the outline it shows the screenshot.tiff image 
in a separate preview window.
imageit screenshot.tiff

Steve Wharton



On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:17:57 AM UTC-5, steve wrote:

 Mario

 I am using the high resolution tiff format for now because that is what is 
 generated by the Mac OS grab utility.
 In practice I would switch to another smaller image format.

 Thanks
 Steve Wharton

 On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:31:14 PM UTC-5, PMario wrote:

 On Monday, November 10, 2014 7:57:50 PM UTC+1, steve wrote:

 I am using TW5 to write documentation for a application and I would like 
 to embed screenshots in the text
 So far I am able to have a clickable link to the image (see below)

 [ext[App Screenshot|./externalFiles/image.tiff]]


 Hi Steve,
 Is there a reason, why you use .tiff images. They tend to be really big. 
 -m



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Re: [tw] [TW5] several questions for migrating/using TW5

2014-11-11 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

 The purest expression of TiddlyWikis philosophy would be to break a 
 tiddler with sections into separate tiddlers, and transclude the sections 
 back together when you need to view them as a single unit.


Perhaps this can be automated a little more, after all, and merged into a 
compromise by inventing something like section tiddlers which could get...

   - automatic titles based on parent + the section title
   - allow for section ordering using some list field (not sure about 
   section nesting though)

As the chosen approach is slicing a section down to being a tiddler, that 
means that supporting capabilities are somewhat desireable that help a user 
to aggregate the now scattered contents, or display such now remote or 
hidden contents (data, fields) in a somewhat editable / templatable 
viewmode.

Tobias.

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[tw] Switch sides for Story Board and TOC

2014-11-11 Thread Captain Packers
Is it possible to have the table of contents on the left and the Story 
Board or Tiddlers on the right hand side of the browser window?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-11 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Tobias,

thanks for the input. Let me answer some points because I think there is a 
misunderstanding here.

In general: You have to think of nodes like tiddlers and views like 
tw-filters. It is almost exactly the same.
  

 To me, a graph displays relations between tiddlers and the overhead of 
 having to use dedicated tags to relate tiddlers to a given view seems 
 redundant, to some extend bloating a tiddlers metadata.


No metadata at all is stored in any tiddler. Edges are stored in dedicated 
json-stores for each edge-type and views are merely filters that select all 
tiddlers that match them. A view here is the exact same thing as a view in 
SQL or a TW-Filter: it is a precalculated select statement. At the moment, 
only tags are possible as filter, but I will add more ways to filter the 
graph. Everytime you create a clone of a view it is a clone of the current 
filter used.
 

 So, my train of thought is... Why not keep those graph views as a 
 self-contained entities that are independent from the tiddlers they 
 represent, in terms of constraint requirements?


Yes. This is already the way it works. Imagine a view as a tw-filter which 
will select the nodes it will contain. No tiddlers are actually linked to a 
view. They just match a pattern that is specified by a view.
 

 While being able to filter a view based on tags sure is a great feature, I 
 would say that to actually model a view should not (necessarily) depend on 
 a given tag-filter constraint. Why? Because, at some point you eventually 
 may want a whole range of constraints, e.g. field constraints with tiddlers 
 having field x of value y or some value = z, etc... or a modified date  
 dadada.

 Makes sense?


Yes. I totally agree and you will be able to do that. If you open the debug 
console of your browser and search the through the debug output you will 
see a line that says new filter string to accept or reject graph-nodes: 
[!is[system]!tag[tiddler-relation]tag[todo]!has[draft.of]. It is only at 
the moment, that the GUI is not done and every view filters by tags. *But 
theoretically I could also provide a textfield where you can manually enter 
a tw-filter.*
 


 Perhaps it's a question of how the workflow of modeling a graph is 
 envisioned.

 For me it's this:

- define view (name ...may at some point even require an additional 
category(tag) )
- add / create nodes (easily select existing tids)
- add / define edges


 

 So, these questions may be interesting to perhaps (re)consider...

- What defines the set of nodes that are represented in a graph?


In its core: a tw-filter, as complex as you want it to be.
 


- Are edges part of a dedicated view?

 no edges exist between nodes and are only shown if the view permits it. 
that means: when nodes match the filter or when not filtered by a special 
edge-filter.


- In other words, do I want all edges in a view, just because some 
   (tag)filter expression says the corresponding tiddlers match?

 You can create use an edge filter that is also stored by each view. Its 
visible in the gui but not working yet.
 


- Or: How could I make differentent kinds of edges appear in different 
   views with the same tiddlers?

 edge filter will be implemented next time :)
 

 Right now, I guess, it is all set up such that the nodes and actions are 
 global, i.e. all views share the same underlying node-tree.


No they don't. They just pick the nodes (tiddlers) they want to based on 
their filter.


Hope that helped.

Please wait with in depth discussions when I published the code.

Regards Felix

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Re: [tw] Can't connect to my node.js tiddlywiki from a client PC

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Captain Packers

By default, the TW5 server listens on 127.0.0.1, which means that you can
only connect to it from the same host.

To be able to connect from external hosts you need to instead listen on
0.0.0.0. For example:

tiddlywiki mywiki --server 0.0.0.0

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Improving docs @Jeremy

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Alberto, I've made an update:

http://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#How%20to%20create%20plugins%20in%20the%20browser

Best wishes

Jeremy

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 Hi Jeremy,

 Taking advantage of the new features in 5.1.4 and 5.1.5-prerelease, I
 started updating my TW for Scholars and spliting it into small plugins.

 I followed the How to create plugins in the browser doc, and it works.
 But I spent quite a lot of time with unexpected behaviours until I
 understood that needed to refresh the page after each repack.

 Thus, I think it would be good to add to the docs the need to refresh the
 browser when creating or upgrading plugins.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #68 on Tuesday 11th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
TiddlyWiki Hangout #68 is just starting.

Watch and post questions at:

https://plus.google.com/events/cuek4r3dmto6n3haq1na4vh4t6s

or join at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYd2SeVEqpkyOSDKrWMzpaEowaJYjk2Q1_3xVXzzpe9kVH6oww

Best wishes

Jeremy

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 TiddlyWiki Hangout #68 will be on Tuesday 11th November at 4pm GMT.
 Details here:

 https://plus.google.com/events/cuek4r3dmto6n3haq1na4vh4t6s

 You can post questions for the hangout using the QA button on the video
 preview at the above link. You'll then need to click the grid icon at the
 top right and choose the QA button.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Xavier Cazin
Hello Jeremy,

The .tid file format can only contain a single tiddler. So when you use the
 page export button you end up with a .tid file containing just the first
 tiddler.

 To export a specific tiddler, just navigate to that tiddler and then use
 the tiddler export button in the tiddler toolbar button.

 Minor issue: the tooltip of the export icon shows 'Export all tiddlers'
 what is not true in the case of 'Plain text.tid tiddler file'.


 Yes, that's frustrating but I'm not sure what we can do about it. Maybe we
 could disable the .tid export format when multiple tiddlers are being
 exported, so it would only appear on the tiddler export dropdown.


Probably a very naïve question, but is there a browser constraint for not
having a folder filled with the selected tiddlers in this case?

Cheers,
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-11 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Felix,

Thanks a lot for all the details.

Correct me if I'm wrong, it appears I am indeed questioning the approach 
where a graph (rather than a view) was to be defined by a filter, which may 
for the time being be restricted to tags and, as you say, may be extended 
to allow entering a plaintext filter expression (yay!).

If one wanted to manually edit a graph, this is helpful to get to an 
initial set of tiddlers that one wants represented in a graph (rather than 
a view), but one may want to add additional tiddlers that don't correspond 
to any such filter expression.

In other words, while it is entirely neat to be able to generate dynamic 
graphs based on filters, perhaps some kind of free graph may be an 
approach to be able to select and add individual tiddlers without any 
filter constraints to a given graph, in fact, the filter being a means to 
only temporarily constrain a given graph to a certain subset of it and when 
removed, to revert to one particular graph, rather than an overall graph of 
all tiddlers and all edges.

So, the question seems: (How) might it be possible to have different 
*graphs* in one and the same wiki? When I say graph, I am really not 
talking about a visual representation (*view*) but about a nodetree, the 
underlying information structure whereas two independent nodes of two 
separate graphs may indeed relate to one and the same tiddler.

For example, let's say I have the tids...

   - Mum
   - Dad
   - Kiddo

I may want one *graph* for general relationships showing...

Mum = parent of = Kiddo
Dad = parent of = Kiddo
Mum = married to = Dad (btw. can an edge be bidirectional?)

...and another more task oriented *graph* that shows...

Dad  = brings to school = Kiddo
Mum = brings to bed = Kiddo
Dad = brings flowers for = Mum

I guess there's quite a difference between the filter-based, *dynamically 
generated* graph you produce now and a *static, manually* edited graph, 
whereas the former feels impressively powerful and dynamic, but the latter 
is what people may desire just as much, and in fact perhaps more corresponds 
to a basic capability one would hope to find in representing tiddlers in a 
graph.

For now, let's say I'm quite curious as to how you might envision / implement 
node-filtering :-)

- tb

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Re: [tw] Can't connect to my node.js tiddlywiki from a client PC

2014-11-11 Thread Captain Packers
Thanks Jeremy. Do you know how the password option works? I set it once, 
but when I connected from a remote client I was not challenged for a 
password.

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 Hi Captain Packers

 By default, the TW5 server listens on 127.0.0.1, which means that you can 
 only connect to it from the same host.

 To be able to connect from external hosts you need to instead listen on 
 0.0.0.0. For example:

 tiddlywiki mywiki --server 0.0.0.0

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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[tw] Re: Highlighting a transcluded tiddler

2014-11-11 Thread Tobias Beer
I think it would be very helpful to see some examples for template 
transclusion in the doc, because the term template is far from being 
self-explanatory.

- tb

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Re: [tw] Can't connect to my node.js tiddlywiki from a client PC

2014-11-11 Thread Captain Packers
Is that a literal 0.0.0.0 ?

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 Hi Captain Packers

 By default, the TW5 server listens on 127.0.0.1, which means that you can 
 only connect to it from the same host.

 To be able to connect from external hosts you need to instead listen on 
 0.0.0.0. For example:

 tiddlywiki mywiki --server 0.0.0.0

 Best wishes

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[tw] Re: Codemirror Documentation

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Erwang

Is not as difficult as you think. On the info section of each tiddler you have 
a link to github. You can edit that tiddler on GitHub at it will create a fork 
for you. Regards

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Re: [tw] Can't connect to my node.js tiddlywiki from a client PC

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Yes, it is a literal 0.0.0.0 it's a wildcard that means any ip

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[tw] Node.js spell check?

2014-11-11 Thread Captain Packers
Has anyone noticed that the spell check seems to be disabled when editing a 
node.js TW from a client PC (over the network)?

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[tw] Transclusion into inline CSS

2014-11-11 Thread Theon Ysthar-Gra'an
Hi!

Could somebody please explain to me how to make this work? I've tried 
everything except creating a JS plugin for this simple task and I refuse to 
believe that it can't be done without that.

\define progressbar(pval:0)
$(pval)$
div style=
height:20px;overflow:visible;width:$(pval)$%;background-color:#33aeee;float:left;
nbsp;/div
\end


|floatright|k
| {{!!img}} ||
|Weight | progressbar {{!!weight}}{{!!weight}}%|
|stat | value|

This ignores my parameter and gives me:

div style=height:20px;overflow:visible;width:%;background-color:
#33aeee;float:left;nbsp;/div18%


When used without a macro:

|floatright|k
| {{!!img}} ||
|Weight | div style=
height:20px;overflow:visible;width:{{!!weight}}%;background-color:#33aeee;float:left;
nbsp;/div{{!!weight}}%|
|stat | value|

It ignores the transclusion and I get:

div style=height:20px;overflow:visible;width:{{!!weight}}%;background-
color:#33aeee;float:left;nbsp;/div18%

I am trying to use this as a template in another tiddler which has a weight 
field, and it works as intended except in the inline CSS (between th double 
quotes).


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Re: [tw] Node.js spell check?

2014-11-11 Thread Alex Hough
do you have code mirror installed?

Alex

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[tw] Re: Switch sides for Story Board and TOC

2014-11-11 Thread Birthe C
I am not sure I understand. You might have a look at 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/jCcgoAwWwmk/9dm7RgVGK5sJ. An 
example by Dave Gifford. It is an older TW5 version though.


Birthe

Den tirsdag den 11. november 2014 16.29.21 UTC+1 skrev Captain Packers:

 Is it possible to have the table of contents on the left and the Story 
 Board or Tiddlers on the right hand side of the browser window?


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[tw] [TW5] Top Bars

2014-11-11 Thread andrew.j.harrison84
     I like the way tool bars can be modified from the ControlPanel appearance 
tab. I liked it so much that I set out to add the top left and top right 
toolbars to tabs also just like the edit, page, and view toolbar tabs.
     I seem to have gotten stuck. I started with TopLeftToolbar creating shadow 
tiddlers with everything just like the edit, page, and view. There are multiple 
shadow tiddlers for each. But checking or unchecking seems to have no effect. 
The tag only makes it show up in the top toolbar. My testing page is 
t5a.tiddlyspot.com. Any suggestions? Maybe it's my clock which doesn't want to 
play with the other nice buttons.


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[tw] Transclusion into inline CSS

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Remove the brackets of pval

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[tw] Transclusion into inline CSS

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Just for be clear, it should look like $pval$. The brackets are for variables 
set out of the macro, for example with a set widget. Regards. 

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Re: [tw] Node.js spell check?

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
It is enabled by default on node so probably the answer is yes. 

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Re: [tw] Can't connect to my node.js tiddlywiki from a client PC

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Captain Packers

As Danielo says, 0.0.0.0 is a special IP address meaning all IP
addresses on this machine. 127.0.0.1 is a special IP address meaning
loopback on the same IP address.

The full command to serve a wiki on 0.0.0.0 with a username and password is:

--server 8080 $:/core/save/all text/plain text/html MyUserName passw0rd
0.0.0.0

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Xavier


 Probably a very naïve question, but is there a browser constraint for not
 having a folder filled with the selected tiddlers in this case?


The standard browser download saver can only save a single file at once. We
could save multiple files in TiddlyFox or TiddlyDesktop.

I am interested in the possibility of constructing an uncompressed ZIP file
containing all the files and downloading the ZIP file instead. It turns out
that the ZIP file format allows for uncompressed files, and it's a fairly
easy format to write given the good support we've got for binary data in JS.

Best wishes

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[tw] Re: Transclusion into inline CSS

2014-11-11 Thread Theon Ysthar-Gra'an
Thank you It works. :)


On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:23:58 PM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Just for be clear, it should look like $pval$. The brackets are for 
 variables set out of the macro, for example with a set widget. Regards. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Implementing tag functionality in other fields

2014-11-11 Thread Joshua
+1 to the idea of giving other fields functionality similar to tags 
filter and tagging filter as Jeremy mentions above. It would be great to 
see this functionality in the core or in a plugin soon. I have been trying 
to figure out how to create triple stores and then create nested lists 
based on the triples. If anybody has implemented such a thing into a plugin 
successfully and it slipped my notice (or without one), please post and let 
me know. Thanks.

Joshua

On Monday, September 15, 2014 1:14:28 PM UTC-5, c pa wrote:

 I deleted my previous post because the error is in my code not in 
 TiddlyWiki. 


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Blake Blacksmith
Looks beautiful! Can't wait to try out the new export feature.

On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:43:39 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I've started work on implementing a new export button, and thought it was 
 worth getting some feedback before the release of 5.1.5.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 You can try out the new feature at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 The export button appears as both a page control toolbar button to export 
 all tiddlers and as a tiddler toolbar button to export an individual 
 tiddler. For ease of testing the export button is shown by default in the 
 prerelease, but it will be hidden by default in 5.1.5. The export button 
 also appears in the results of the advanced search filter tab, allowing 
 you to export matching tiddlers in a single operation.

 The button initially supports exporting as static HTML, CSV, JSON or 
 `.tid` file.

 Issues I've found with it so far:

 * OS X Numbers refuses to open CSV files that have been generated in 
 Chrome, because it thinks they’ve been downloaded from the Internet. 
 Firefox works OK
 * The export button won’t work within the tiddler info panel, or from the 
 *more* popup (this is because TW5 doesn’t currently support nested popups)

 There are more details in the commit:


 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/6fc5c70ace43219710983f6d9640f4b01d620908

 I'd be interested to learn how you get on using exported CSV files in 
 other apps, and any suggestions or improvements.

 Best wishes

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[tw] Tiddler History

2014-11-11 Thread Blake Blacksmith
Hi All,

Does TW5 support tiddler text history? As in, if I have a tiddler with text 
that I edit one day is there some way to save the text prior to editing? 

I believe Evernote has a similar feature were note history is saved each 
time you make an edit and you can recall up to 100 or so edits. 

If there is not already a way to enable tiddler text history for a given 
tiddler then I will simply make a new fields with the data and text of my 
tiddlers prior to editing.

-Blake

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-11 Thread Blake Blacksmith
Great news. Can't wait to try out the new export feature!

For your info, I will probably end up using the export feature as a backup 
and as a means to share my tiddlers with non-TiddlyWiki users.

-Blake

On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:43:39 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I've started work on implementing a new export button, and thought it was 
 worth getting some feedback before the release of 5.1.5.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 You can try out the new feature at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

 The export button appears as both a page control toolbar button to export 
 all tiddlers and as a tiddler toolbar button to export an individual 
 tiddler. For ease of testing the export button is shown by default in the 
 prerelease, but it will be hidden by default in 5.1.5. The export button 
 also appears in the results of the advanced search filter tab, allowing 
 you to export matching tiddlers in a single operation.

 The button initially supports exporting as static HTML, CSV, JSON or 
 `.tid` file.

 Issues I've found with it so far:

 * OS X Numbers refuses to open CSV files that have been generated in 
 Chrome, because it thinks they’ve been downloaded from the Internet. 
 Firefox works OK
 * The export button won’t work within the tiddler info panel, or from the 
 *more* popup (this is because TW5 doesn’t currently support nested popups)

 There are more details in the commit:


 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/6fc5c70ace43219710983f6d9640f4b01d620908

 I'd be interested to learn how you get on using exported CSV files in 
 other apps, and any suggestions or improvements.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Blake Blacksmith
Very neat. A good start on a great tool for visualizing related tiddlers.

On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:54:07 PM UTC-5, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Here is a working demo:

 http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/

 Scroll down to see two examples.

 The network works really smooth in Chrome.
 Firefox sometimes interrupts the motion of the graph if many nodes are 
 display.

 Hope you like it :)

 Felix


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Re: [tw] Can't connect to my node.js tiddlywiki from a client PC

2014-11-11 Thread Captain Packers
Great. Thanks. Working now.

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:42:56 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Captain Packers

 As Danielo says, 0.0.0.0 is a special IP address meaning all IP 
 addresses on this machine. 127.0.0.1 is a special IP address meaning 
 loopback on the same IP address.

 The full command to serve a wiki on 0.0.0.0 with a username and password 
 is:

 --server 8080 $:/core/save/all text/plain text/html MyUserName passw0rd 
 0.0.0.0

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Yes, it is a literal 0.0.0.0 it's a wildcard that means any ip

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-11 Thread James
Hi Felix, 
This is really cool!  How could I get it?


On Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:56:06 UTC+8, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hi guys,

 just did another video to complete the previous.

 http://youtu.be/0QFE54HAzH0

 Don't worry, I'm not spamming the forum with videos, I just wanted to give 
 a first impression.

 Hope you like the new features.

 Regards
 Felix


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[tw] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

2014-11-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki


On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:12:53 AM UTC-8, steve wrote:

 An Update:

 I tried a number of ways (see below) to display the images 
 screenshot.jpg and screenshot.tiff in a tiddler. The files 
 screenshot.jpg and screenshot.tiff are in the same directory as the html 
 file. I'm using Firefox. The problem appears to be the .tiff format

 

 2. The imageit macro does work with the screenshot.JPG image, but it opens 
 the full image in a new tab.
 imageit screenshot.jpg

 That was the intention ;-)

I guess what you want is to click on it and reveal it in the same place? I 
think something like that could be done by using the reveal macro.

AFAIK, Safari is the only browser that even attempts to support tif format. 
My guess is that it has only partial support and that is why the scaled 
image just shows up as an outline. You might search if there is a plugin 
for Safari that will allow scalable tifs.

The more universal solution would be to use a batch utility to convert your 
tifs to jpegs. 

And/or, use a batch utility to create your thumbs as tifs in a 
sub-directory (e.g. myimages/thumbs) and then have the macro reveal the 
thumb until a button is clicked, whereupon it shows the full-size version. 
The main thing is, as long as the images are tif format they're not going 
to be viewed correctly on other browsers.

Mark  

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[tw] [TW5] Add icons to the title based on tags

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello everyone.

Recently I found an entry on my personal wiki on how to use svg images 
within TW, specifically for buttons.  Then I remembered that someone made a 
customization to add icons to certain types of links. That inspired me and 
I decided to add icons to tiddler's title based on tags to easily identify 
them. I succeed on my objective partially: I can add one icon, two at 
maximum. The problem is that I'm using a combination of css pseudo elements 
(like before) and backgrounds. Could someone help me to get a list of icons 
of any length?

Here is what I get:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fZOcFO52_lg/VGMKk5OCe5I/LlI/UeAcFYbAP2Q/s1600/iconsExample.PNG
Here is the CSS:

.tc-tagged-linux .tc-tiddler-title .tc-title {
background: url(datauri tux.svg) center left no-repeat;
padding-left: 38px;
}

.tc-tagged-snippets .tc-tiddler-title .tc-title {
background-image: url(datauri snippet.svg);
background-position: center left;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
padding-left: 38px;
}

.tc-tagged-javascript .tc-tiddler-title .tc-title::before
{ display: inline-block;
  content: ' ';
  background-image: url(datauri js.svg);
  background-size: 30px 30px;
  height: 28px;
  width: 28px;
}


Thanks for any support.

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[tw] [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-11 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Hello,

Since few weeks, I'm working on end-user documentation file using 
TiddlyWiki for work, because TW is wonderful for that :)

I've many images. I don't want to include all, because html weight will 
increase considerably. So I insert with local path, like :

[img[tooltip|folder/sub-folder/image.png]]


I wondering if we could set path folder as a variable ?

I would like to share the index.html file more easily and save images on a 
network directory (smb share I guess), but I also want to work on master TW 
locally. So I don't want to always use foreign folder storage.

If I'm not clear, or if you have better idea to deal with img, I'm 
listening :)

Best regards,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El miércoles, 12 de noviembre de 2014 03:00:04 UTC+1, James escribió:

 Hi Felix, 
 This is really cool!  How could I get it?



This still on beta, so the only way to use it is downloading a full wiki 
containing it:

http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/ 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Felix

If I download your wiki and I open the file I get the following error:

Uncaught ReferenceError: vis is not defined

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[tw] Re: Tiddler History

2014-11-11 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hi blake,

I am working on a plugin to provide versions history to TW, but it is on a 
very early stage and currently is just manual.
Regards

El martes, 11 de noviembre de 2014 23:15:05 UTC+1, Blake Blacksmith 
escribió:

 Hi All,

 Does TW5 support tiddler text history? As in, if I have a tiddler with 
 text that I edit one day is there some way to save the text prior to 
 editing? 

 I believe Evernote has a similar feature were note history is saved each 
 time you make an edit and you can recall up to 100 or so edits. 

 If there is not already a way to enable tiddler text history for a given 
 tiddler then I will simply make a new fields with the data and text of my 
 tiddlers prior to editing.

 -Blake


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