[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
The 100th post probably triggered it. Or maybe Sergey and Brin have had it 
and want to take this to the printers now! Like I do. It's ready for print. 
Starting monday I'll put these up in my university campus. 

If, which I hope will not be the case, but if we were to go with blue 
free, then at least also bold. If people miss it, then...

Ok, hope for final blessing from Jermolene. 

:-)

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Handoko Suwono
@native English speakers: I reasoned it should say your personal wiki - a 
single html 
file not just your personal wiki - single html file (the difference is 
the a before 
single) sensing this would keep both lines in a more similar grammatical 
form. 
Yes/No?

I am using recently, TiddlyWiki, a flatfile CMS for personal usage.


On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 11:14:14 PM UTC+7, Mat wrote:

 Tablet, yes. 

 I could go with either when it comes to writing desktop vs laptop but my 
 reasoning for using laptop is that people identify more with laptops these 
 days and the word desktop has almost reverted back into meaning table 
 desktop, at least in my mind. The real actual word is otherwise desktop 
 computer, whereas laptop is unambiguous. Desktop can also mean the 
 Windows (and iOS?) background area, particularly now with Win8 where it is 
 something you must know about to switch to/from. But if you prefer desktop, 
 I could go with that.

 @native English speakers: I reasoned it should say your personal wiki - a 
 single html file not just your personal wiki - single html file (the 
 difference is the a before single) sensing this would keep both lines 
 in a more similar grammatical form. Yes/No?

 But I notice the gradient has shifted a bit so that it is no longer 
 centered under the fish, causing a misaligned visible shadow. Could it be 
 realigned without moving any other suff - other than possibly also letting 
 headline follow it down those few millimeters.) 

 Other than this, I think the one with the blue line (which *should* take 
 attention) is pretty much perfect.

 :-)


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[tw] Re: [TW5] filters.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer


 GREAT INITIATIVE Tobias I know I will hang around there a lot 
 considering the my several hundreds visits to Udu Borkowskis / 
 abegoExtensoins examples for the forEachTiddlerPlugin 
 http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#ForEachTiddlerExamples for TWC. 
 That site may give some ideas for interesting cases and the categorization 
 listed in the linked tiddler is interesting in itself I think. An aspect 
 that I has been valuable there is the verbose description of the filters.


I once made...

http://scripts.tiddlyspace.com

...listing all that fET. ;-)

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Best way to get bookmarks into TW?

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
In some browsers you can load a page into the sidebar.
This is where your TiddlyBookmarks could reside.

See...

   - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/8SSEaGz1dls/mTm-0iltbUsJ
   - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/AoU7TiI01dg/i4IKCVznorYJ
   - http://sidebarnotes.tiddlyspot.com
   

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Sharing word and PDF documents through Tiddlywiki

2015-01-08 Thread Greg Davis
Question. I'd tried to do this on Dropbox but my images are not showing up. 
The img (images) directory is in the same directory as the tiddly file, 
does it have to be shared too?

The following works locally but not from the share on Dropbox:

html lang=en
head
meta charset=utf-8 /
title/title
style type=text/css
/style
/head
body
article

pimg src=images/lights.jpg/p
pone/p
/article
/body
/html

[img [images/lights.jpg]]

two


[ext[cute lights|images/lights.jpg]]


three

{{$:/images/lights.jpg}}


four


Thanks,
Greg

On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 1:28:41 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Maybe interesting...


 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2040050/tw5/2015-01-08.image.folder.html

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
I think I might be creating a German version for this...

 Gedankensalat? Aufräumen.
  tiddlywiki.com   

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW Community Search

2015-01-08 Thread Erwan


Hi Mat,

Your suggestions are certainly interesting, but far beyond my pay grade 
I'm afraid! For example, the iframe trick with JavaScript is beyond my 
level of expertise, to give you an idea.


I can see how my community search wiki can give the illusion of some 
form of dynamic sharing of tiddlers between different wikis, but it's 
actually not the case I'm afraid: behind it there is a program (not a TW 
program, an independent script) which applies a very crude treatment to 
the wikis; it is just a standard text file manipulation process, using 
the TW node.js version precisely because tiddlers are simple text files 
in this version.


This means that it is not dynamic, because there is an intermediate 
worker which does all the menial work between the source wikis and the 
aggregator wiki. I don't know whether the kind of dynamic sharing that 
you envision is technically possible with TW, Jeremy or the other 
developers are certainly more in a position to answer than I am.


About the blacklist/whitelist marking at the level of tiddlers: it was 
also my first idea, but I think doing it as a a list in a special 
tiddler gives more freedom to the author: this way instead of having to 
mark each tiddler with a specific tag or field, they can use their own 
filter; for instance if you already have some categories IdeasForTW, 
TipsForTW, MyGroceryList and MySecretDiary, you can do a whitelist 
filter [tag[IdeasForTW]] [tag[IdeasForTW]] or a blacklist filter 
[tag[MyGroceryList]] [tag[MySecretDiary]].


Regards
Erwan


On 08/01/15 21:36, Mat wrote:

@Erwan

You are probably the only one who has so many wikis so I don't
know if the approach is generalizable, but I had vaguely started
thinking about doing something similar at the level of tidders:
https://github.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator/issues/6
https://github.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator/issues/6


In addition to the two ideas you mention there, here's a third. I hope 
it's not pie in the sky, in not a programmer, so FIWW:


Note that permalinks can contain filters in TW. This could perhaps be 
used for some kind of matching mechanism so that in the call for the 
source TW you not only specify which tiddlers you would like to index 
but also send some kind of identifier for who you are. The source TW 
can read this and use the identifier as an allow/dismiss criteria.


In another context, (iframes), here's a description 
http://mattsnider.com/hash-hack-for-cross-domain-iframe-communication/ 
of using hash based 'additions' to urls for communication between domains.



Another idea: One of your ideas in your issue brings up haveing 
whitelists/blacklists in a tiddler. Maybe it would be desirable to 
allow /individual/ tiddlers to specify this. I.e having the individual 
tiddler accept or reject when someone attempts to include it.

Perhaps fields
whilelist: exclusively if domain as tiddler foo
blacklist: username=bar OR domain=frotz.com

This latter idea would be particularly useful in collaboration 
situations where you want to give different persmissions to different 
people.



Do I make sense at all?


:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] filters.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
GREAT INITIATIVE Tobias I know I will hang around there a lot 
considering the my several hundreds visits to Udu Borkowskis / 
abegoExtensoins examples for the forEachTiddlerPlugin 
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#ForEachTiddlerExamples for TWC. That 
site may give some ideas for interesting cases and the categorization 
listed in the linked tiddler is interesting in itself I think. An aspect 
that I has been valuable there is the verbose description of the filters.

I haven't yet dared to start converting my family TW to TW5 because of 
the extreme amount of fETs so a listing of filters will be of incredible 
use when I get to it. Thank you!

:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I have asked a similar question - Compare to Base TW5

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
As Jed suggests, you could have some script to give *[all[]]* tiddlers in 
your target wiki a tag of *target*. Then, you would either export all those 
into your other wiki or vice versa, depending on which one you want to 
overwrite which.

Then you use the corresponding filter to subtract all those with the tag 
*target*.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Best way to get bookmarks into TW?

2015-01-08 Thread BJ
In ff you can pin tabs - I have a 'main tiddlywiki' that I pin - it links 
to my other tiddlywikis and bookmark type links

cheers
BJ

On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 5:03:28 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:

 Insprierd by Jim Lehmers post 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/tiddlywiki/Fs4I4mQRLh0, 
 I'm wondering about bookmark workflow. In a way TW feels like an obvious 
 place for storing bookmarks; I use it daily, it's in my browser and I can 
 tag and group things effectively. Seems perfect.

 However, did anyone come up with a good way to store bookmarks in TW? Or 
 is manual copy-paste the only way?

 And, is there any *practical* way to then use the bookmarks? I mean, I 
 can't reach the bookmarks in the browser menu but must be in the actual tab 
 where my TW is every time... 

 The bookmark issue has popped up for as far as I can remember but there 
 seem to never have been any practical solution to stuff. 

 Thank you!

 :-)


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[tw] Re: New tiddlyclip release

2015-01-08 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Just upgraded TW in case that was the problem.

I also tried setting it up to work from the C: drive, but still got 
absolutes.

TW 5.1.7,Plugin 0.0.7-alpha, tiddlyclip 0.0.5

Thanks!
Mark

On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 at 7:01:47 PM UTC-8, BJ wrote:

 HI Mark,
 I have tried to reproduce the problem you have, using win7 ff33 - but I 
 only have a c: drive,
 so I tried

 file:///c:/data/tw2014/TW-Images/paleo_dad.png

 where the hosting tiddler is in 

   file:///c:/data/tw2014.

 with this I got a relative link:

 ./tw2014/TW-Images/paleo_dad.jpg

 - so I don't really know what can be the problem - what is the version of 
 tiddlyclip you are using??

 BJ

 On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:57:41 AM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:



 On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:30:43 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 As Birthe was pointing out, if you have your media files in the same dir 
 or a sub-dir relative to your tiddlywiki, then tiddlyclip will 
 automatically use local paths.


 It's using absolute paths on mine. For instance, it I attach an image I 
 come up with something like:

   file:///d:/data/tw2014/TW-Images/paleo_dad.png

 where the hosting tiddler is in 

   file:///d:/data/tw2014.

 Thanks!
 Mark

 FF 33 Win 7 



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[tw] Re: Importing Wikipedia Dumps

2015-01-08 Thread RichShumaker
I agree with Tobias on why repeat the repeating if something exists already 
and can work.
I can also say that on more than one occasion when asked why did you do 
that?
My response has been 'because I can.'

I have worked with HTML TW5 dealing with larger data sets and have not 
enjoyed it.
So from personal experience I would avoid it.
Although I am about to explore using node.js and seeing how I can break my 
browser.
You see TW is broken if you get a red box of death or some other error with 
the code.
When you put a 55mb PDF in a single Tiddler and view it and the browser 
chokes, that's the browser.

With all of that said, I can honestly say, I would like to use TiddlyMap(? 
- New TaskGraph name) with the Wikipedia to visually navigate the data in a 
different way.
See relationships that I may have missed when they were words.
Also it would be interesting to link my current data set into the Wikipedia 
data sets.
Obviously you have an area of interest that may say something like this on 
Wikipedia
*TiddlyWiki* is an open-source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source 
single 
page application http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_page_application wiki 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki. A single HTML 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML file contains CSS 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets, JavaScript 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript, and the content. The content is 
divided into a series of components, or *Tiddlers*. A user is encouraged to 
read a TiddlyWiki by following links rather than sequentially scrolling 
down the page.
and you want to say more but still link into what may already exist.
Hey that just struck a cord.  Why don't we re-write what we think 
TiddlyWiki is and then press go on having it at Wikipedia(until someone 
changes it).
I read the description above from Wikipedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiddlyWiki that I posted above and said 
'true but lacking'.

Okay back on track from my point of view I agree with Tobias and also see 
why someone would want this, I would use it if it was made.

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] You know its bad when you have a TiddlyWiki of TiddlyWiki's

2015-01-08 Thread RichShumaker
I just got my RasPi working with TiddlyWiki using the BidiX store.php 
script which has led to the TWoTWs.
Yes that's the TiddlyWiki of TiddlyWiki's.

You simply change the Upload Filename and a new TiddlyWiki forms this 
creates the need to get to them all easily and quickly.
So for my Index page(index.html) on the server I link to all the 
TiddlyWiki's I create.

Within minutes you too can have 10 TW leading to everywhere, #heheh.
I wonder if there is an easy way to have the index page be a search only 
version of all the other sites using TWAgregator 
https://github.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator.
I think you need to be careful you don't save to much as that will kill the 
SD card on the RasPi.

Rich Shumaker

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Re: [tw] Re: Sharing word and PDF documents through Tiddlywiki

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
May I ask why we're seeing all this html stuff in your example?

My test wiki is in a public folder, and img is a subfolder to that.
Obviously, I'd say, if you want to access those images from within the 
wiki, both need to be publicly accessible.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] My personal tiddlywiki don't load themes

2015-01-08 Thread Châu Thân Đức Hoàng
I setup my personal tiddlywiki on OpenShift. But it don't load themes.
This is my code to start it.

 var $tw = require(./boot/boot.js).TiddlyWiki();
 $tw.boot.argv = [
   process.env.OPENSHIFT_DATA_DIR,
   --server,
   process.env.OPENSHIFT_NODEJS_PORT,
   $:/core/save/all,
   text/plain,
   text/html,
   usename,
   password,
   process.env.OPENSHIFT_NODEJS_IP,
 ];
 $tw.boot.boot();


Please help me.
Thanks.

PS: I don't know about argurement of $tw. Where do I read it?

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Re: [tw] Re: TW Community Search

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
Browsing on in your github it seems at least that last idea is already 
brought up or at least something similar. Sorry for 'repeating' or whatever 
it would be classified as :-)

:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5 version 5.0.13-beta] How do i switch to Cecily view?

2015-01-08 Thread Henry Mckenzie
I'm having a bit of trouble with the Cecily plugin. 
The content doesn't seem to be zoomed in to the correct level I would 
expect.

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious - any help would be appreciated.
I've tested this in the desktop version, chrome and firefox (in the 
browsers I can manually zoom in (ctrl+mousewheel))

I've attached a screenshot to try and explain the above ramblings.
Thanks,
Henry.

On Friday, 8 August 2014 00:04:34 UTC+2, Crash Pop-Quiz wrote:

 If am dancing in my seat while viewing what is the wicked wonder of Cecily 
 view. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

 On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 9:28:41 AM UTC-4, crash.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Through the Control Panel, under the Story View tab I can switch between 
 the classic, pop, and zoomin views. I thought that is where I would find 
 the Cecily view. Is there another way to access this feature? I'm  TIA

 http://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/


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Re: [tw] Re: TW Community Search

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
@Erwan

 You are probably the only one who has so many wikis so I don't know if the 
 approach is generalizable, but I had vaguely started thinking about doing 
 something similar at the level of tidders: 
 https://github.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator/issues/6


In addition to the two ideas you mention there, here's a third. I hope it's 
not pie in the sky, in not a programmer, so FIWW:

Note that permalinks can contain filters in TW. This could perhaps be used 
for some kind of matching mechanism so that in the call for the source TW 
you not only specify which tiddlers you would like to index but also send 
some kind of identifier for who you are. The source TW can read this and 
use the identifier as an allow/dismiss criteria. 

In another context, (iframes), here's a description 
http://mattsnider.com/hash-hack-for-cross-domain-iframe-communication/ of 
using hash based 'additions' to urls for communication between domains.


Another idea: One of your ideas in your issue brings up haveing 
whitelists/blacklists in a tiddler. Maybe it would be desirable to allow 
*individual* tiddlers to specify this. I.e having the individual tiddler 
accept or reject when someone attempts to include it. 
Perhaps fields
whilelist: exclusively if domain as tiddler foo
blacklist: username=bar OR domain=frotz.com

This latter idea would be particularly useful in collaboration situations 
where you want to give different persmissions to different people. 


Do I make sense at all?


:-)

:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: A little help for Saving on a PHP Server

2015-01-08 Thread RichShumaker
SOLUTION!!!
and as I have said on the GitHub thread I owe Tobias a keg of beer(if he 
drinks beer).
This is a permissions issue if you get the error I received.
I changed the permissions on my server folder to 777(probably overkill and 
not wise should only need a change to the store.php file).
Once I changed permissions it worked and boom goes the dynamite I am up and 
running.

Below is an image of my TW 5.1.7 configuration as the autofill confused me 
at first.

Thanks again Tobias.

Rich Shumaker

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QvyZae7W2ZY/VK74_KpmfYI/DPI/WkMztJx4TJk/s1600/storephpsetup.png

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Duarte,
 

 Updated, text, updated url size and update export size.

I think the layout is better that way. It feels a little bit off that 
tiddlywiki.com would be so close to the fish but the headline not. Perhaps 
move that a little down so that it dives more into the gradient rather than 
be somewhat on top.

For what is worth I too strongly dislike the handwritten stroke, if free 
 really is that important I'd color it differently like the last alternative 
 I made. I would vote against, two against one, but I'll let Jeremy and 
 decide on that.


;-) Ok, maybe it could be greyish, almost not there, but then there. So you 
only see it at second thought and get that itch you want to scratch, 
subliminally.

At long last, thanks for all your work on this! Can't stretch this enough...
You did a great job creating that new, fresh visual edge for TiddlyWiki.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: TW5: Slider/drop down list in filter

2015-01-08 Thread RickL
Thanks for you work...looks like exactly what I need...but will not work 
when  I import the tiddlers...I will have to study this some more


On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 9:33:10 PM UTC-5, c pa wrote:

 Hi Rick,

 I've created an example of what I think you want at 
 http://cpashow.tiddlyspot.com/
 I created view and edit templates that add the drop-downs to the page so 
 you can set values based on a filter look up of tiddlers

 It's set so that any tiddler tagged daily will display the drop-downs. 


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[tw] [TW5] Best way to get bookmarks into TW?

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
Insprierd by Jim Lehmers post 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/tiddlywiki/Fs4I4mQRLh0, 
I'm wondering about bookmark workflow. In a way TW feels like an obvious 
place for storing bookmarks; I use it daily, it's in my browser and I can 
tag and group things effectively. Seems perfect.

However, did anyone come up with a good way to store bookmarks in TW? Or is 
manual copy-paste the only way?

And, is there any *practical* way to then use the bookmarks? I mean, I 
can't reach the bookmarks in the browser menu but must be in the actual tab 
where my TW is every time... 

The bookmark issue has popped up for as far as I can remember but there 
seem to never have been any practical solution to stuff. 

Thank you!

:-)

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos


I saw the thread change too, not sure if it was the thread length that 
triggered it or if google changed anything on their side, everything 
looks different, dunno.
Anyway this thread IS getting long, I'd say end it eheh. So here's what I 
hope is the final preview. 
The paper size is correct, nothing changed I just made a small mistake 
exporting it last time. Updated, text, updated url size and update export 
size


http://www.duarteramos.pt/media/share/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoster10.png


For what is worth I too strongly dislike the handwritten stroke, if free 
really is that important I'd color it differently like the last alternative 
I made. I would vote against, two against one, but I'll let Jeremy and 
decide on that.

On Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:50:20 UTC, Mat wrote:

 That smidge under free makes me want to get a cloth and wipe it away.

 Hehe, me too! And that's *exactly* the point. It *ensures* they can't 
 miss free. If they miss free then, in their mind, this is *obviously* 
 a poster for a product that costs money. Ads and posters *are* for 
 selling and making money.

 Also agree with Tobias' other points about perhaps making tw a tiny bit 
 smaller etc. No big deal for me, but I do agree.

 Also note the image seems to be 27,94 instead of the specified 27,90, at 
 least in my drawing software (paint.net)

 Apropos the long thread: Just now the view switched over to multiple pages 
 (5 of them) instead of one long thread. Did that just happen to you too? 
 Made it a lot smoother.

 :-)


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[tw] Re: TW Community Search

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Erwan,

I added a tiddler with my preferences for indexing.

$:/follow http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Ffollow @ tb5

All entries are sorted chronologically,
so you can realize if there are any updates.

If you think a different format may be better, let me know.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] is it possible to serve local file in tiddlywiki server mode

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
Sorry, decided to go into breakfast-mode first.
You're all asking about node.js and I hand you dropbox. ^^

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] is it possible to serve local file in tiddlywiki server mode

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
Works for me...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2040050/tw5/2015-01-08.image.folder.html

Perhaps you forgot to set some fields correctly?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] is it possible to serve local file in tiddlywiki server mode

2015-01-08 Thread Lei Zhang
I don't think this is what I want.

1. I want to link a binary file( like pdf, exe files), not just a image.
2. I think the root cause should be that whether the tiddlywiki server
can serve files from local disk.
i.e, can I get the file through `curl
http://localhost:8181/files/a.pdf` ( the 8181 port running by node )

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Works for me...

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2040050/tw5/2015-01-08.image.folder.html

 Perhaps you forgot to set some fields correctly?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] is it possible to serve local file in tiddlywiki server mode

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
 

 1. I want to link a binary file( like pdf, exe files), not just a image. 


Added a pdf.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2040050/tw5/2015-01-08.image.folder.html

TiddlyWiki won't have you run an exe.
Your browser won't have you do it, obviously.
 

 2. I think the root cause should be that whether the tiddlywiki server can 
 serve files from local disk. 


Of course, that *node.js* server can.
Ok, let me rephrase that: Are you trying to generate a static site?

Also, try [ext[./a.pdf]]for files in the same directory.
Otherwise, use subdirectories, which sounds advisable anyway.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #76 will be on Tuesday 6th January at 4pm GMT

2015-01-08 Thread RichShumaker
I have not had a chance to put the details out about Hangout #76 yet.
I am hopeful I will catch up on the back catalog from Mario and have the 
recent hangouts all done by the time we have the next one in a few weeks.

Check out the new YouTube Annotation Page 
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/TiddlyWiki-Hangouts.html#YouTube%20Video%20Annotations
 
created by Jed Carty using Astrid's Hangout Macros 
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/TiddlyWiki-Hangouts.html#Macros%20for%20Hangout%20Wiki%20Project
.
Thanks Astrid and Jed for all your help.
This framework allows for some really amazing stuff to be done.

I would love for everyone to check it out and try it.
If you want to use the tool to help 'Tiddlerize' a hangout please do and 
let me know where your page is at and which tiddlers to grab.
Or if you do this locally on your computer just let me know by email so I 
can add what you did to the system.

I have been having a great time using this new tool and I hope you enjoy it 
as well, it is pretty amazcrazawetastic.

Rich Shumaker
-Mutilator of the Engliz language

 

On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:45:35 PM UTC-8, Jim Lehmer wrote:

 For some reason I keep missing these announcements in the group. Sigh.

 Since we're using Google Groups, is there a possibility of a TW Google 
 Calendar to which I could then subscribe? Google Calendar (and these TW 
 groups) are about the last two functions I use from The All-Seeing Eye.

 On Friday, January 2, 2015 10:25:44 AM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 The next TiddlyWiki Hangout will be on Tuesday 6th January at 4pm 
 GMT/UTC. 

 https://plus.google.com/events/crcmq9b8flanpnd9lfnect5h5v4

 You can post questions for the hangout using the QA button on the video 
 preview on the page above. You'll then need to click the grid icon at the 
 top right, and then choose the QA button.

 After this hangout there will be a break of a couple of weeks and then 
 we'll have TiddlyWiki Hangout #77 on Tuesday 27th January:

 https://plus.google.com/events/c0p3611c2m3l7kiml57243v9amk

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Using the nameplate/TWcards idea to maintain a community plugin database

2015-01-08 Thread RichShumaker
I really like this idea but I have not created a plug in so I would not be 
the best person to use it, #heheh.

Rich Shumaker

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] is it possible to serve local file in tiddlywiki server mode

2015-01-08 Thread Lei Zhang
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're all asking about node.js and I hand you dropbox. ^^

yup.

This is the misunderstand between us.

In dropbox or static html file case, your solution works as expected.

But in nodejs case, the tiddlywiki server doesn't serve the local
file. I still expect that the tiddlywiki server can do.


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[tw] Re: Importing Wikipedia Dumps

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Smith



 The first response that pops off my synapses reading such a proposal is:
 *Why?* and again: *Why?*


Hi Tobias,

My goal is to package information to be accessible completely offline (in 
an environment where there is no possibility of an internet connection). I 
would like to curate a collection which is suitable for a target audience 
of young children and am also interested in taking foreign language 
materials and using them as a a starting-point for a personal learning wiki.

The fact that TW is 'stand-alone' is only one of the great things about it. 
The thing I like the most is that it's so easy to (re-)compose content (and 
also build custom UI) , which is why I find it interesting to use it as a 
container for largish data-sets.

One possibility, I guess, would be to adapt the idea of TiddlyClip so that 
it can be given a list of pages and then fetch the content for all of them 
in a systematic manner.

Thanks (all) for the useful suggestions

Regards,
Richard




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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos


Sure thing, was actually my mistake there, moved the fish and forgot to 
update the gradient. Also updated the word to laptop, that one slipped 
through.
Here's the updated version. Jeremy are you ok with all these latest changes?


http://www.duarteramos.pt/media/share/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoster09.png

On Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:14:14 UTC, Mat wrote:

 Tablet, yes. 

 I could go with either when it comes to writing desktop vs laptop but my 
 reasoning for using laptop is that people identify more with laptops these 
 days and the word desktop has almost reverted back into meaning table 
 desktop, at least in my mind. The real actual word is otherwise desktop 
 computer, whereas laptop is unambiguous. Desktop can also mean the 
 Windows (and iOS?) background area, particularly now with Win8 where it is 
 something you must know about to switch to/from. But if you prefer desktop, 
 I could go with that.

 @native English speakers: I reasoned it should say your personal wiki - a 
 single html file not just your personal wiki - single html file (the 
 difference is the a before single) sensing this would keep both lines 
 in a more similar grammatical form. Yes/No?

 But I notice the gradient has shifted a bit so that it is no longer 
 centered under the fish, causing a misaligned visible shadow. Could it be 
 realigned without moving any other suff - other than possibly also letting 
 headline follow it down those few millimeters.) 

 Other than this, I think the one with the blue line (which *should* take 
 attention) is pretty much perfect.

 :-)


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[tw] Re: Sharing word and PDF documents through Tiddlywiki

2015-01-08 Thread Jed Carty
The wiki I use for most things is hosted on dropbox, with most of the pdfs 
and images used in it linked from a folder called 'images' and a folder 
called `pdf` in the same dropbox folder as my wiki so I can display them in 
the wiki and not have to import them. That works well for me. 

I do have a wiki in a shared dropbox folder that multiple people use. It 
works very well for us. The problem here is that there isn't any multi-user 
control on the wikis yet, so if two people are editing at the same time 
anything the first person saves will be over written when the second person 
saves. This doesn't mean you can't do it, just make lots of backups.

I am not sure if either of those cover your situation exactly, so if you 
have further questions please ask.

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
Excellent! Assuming we get an answer on the a single... question and that 
Jeremy gives an OK, then I say this is it

This is one heck of a mini-poster! 

:-) 

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos
Ops forgot about that one. Lets see what Jeremy says, I'll update it for 
the next version

On Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:46:03 UTC, Mat wrote:

 Excellent! Assuming we get an answer on the a single... question and 
 that Jeremy gives an OK, then I say this is it

 This is one heck of a mini-poster! 

 :-) 


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[tw] Re: [TW5] filters.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-08 Thread HansWobbe
This is quite useful to me.  Thanks!!

On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:24:49 AM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 I just wanted to let you know that I started to collect some *filter 
 examples* and their use in lists at...

 http://filters.tiddlyspot.com




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[tw] [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-08 Thread f10
Hi,

I'm a new TiddlyWiki user and haven't seen a solution for my problem while 
scrolling through the group so far, so I apologize if this has been 
discussed before.

I know there is a plugin to help with case and space insensitive links, but 
is there one for the word the?

Example: I have a tiddler titled The First Tiddler and would like to link 
to it as the [[First Tiddler]]


1. I know that [[First Tiddler|The First Tiddler]] solves this problem, but 
I would have to do that for a lot of links and am wondering if there is an 
easier way. 
2. I also know that [[the First Tiddler]] would also be a solution when 
using the LooseLinks plugin, but I'd prefer not to include the in the 
hyperlink due to visual preferences. 

Any help you can provide (even if it's just It would be better just to 
stick with one of your mentioned solutions) would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Faith

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Re: [tw] Re: TW proselytism

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Eric,
 

 Regardless of what you feel copyright is (or should be)... there are 
 specific long-established laws... and you mostly have it backwards.  It is 
 NOT neccesary for an creator to explicitly declare copyright.  Copyright 
 exists from the moment the materials are *created*.  Those materials belong 
 to the author, and they have FULL RIGHTS to control what is done with it. 
  Of course, copyright laws DO vary from country to country...


That sounds fine with me and it essentially means that there's even less of 
a reason to declare a copyright statement or define licensing conditions... 
since, if things should ever get rough, there is that implicit right you 
say one can refer to... albeit with an obligation of proof on either side, 
I presume.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Sharing word and PDF documents through Tiddlywiki

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
Maybe interesting...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2040050/tw5/2015-01-08.image.folder.html

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos
I agree, I actually fixed that in my version, forgot to mention it before

On Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:21:29 UTC, Eric Shulman wrote:


 Don't use commercial product brand names!
 The only brand that should be mentioned is TiddlyWiki.

 laptop, mobile, iPad

should be

 laptop, mobile, tablet

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Re: [tw] Re: TW proselytism

2015-01-08 Thread Eric Shulman
On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:45:38 PM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Again, to me that is entirely a given unless I or anyone else explicitly 
 state — in a legally binding way — that that is not the case and that I am 
 a copyright holder indeed, exerting intellectual property rights. I never 
 do that as I don't support the general idea of intellectual property at 
 all, even if I was to try and monetize anything. That may be stupid, but 
 ok. It's rather about whether or not people wish to contribute, rather than 
 me trying to force them to.


Tobias,

Regardless of what you feel copyright is (or should be)... there are 
specific long-established laws... and you mostly have it backwards.  It is 
NOT neccesary for an creator to explicitly declare copyright.  Copyright 
exists from the moment the materials are *created*.  Those materials belong 
to the author, and they have FULL RIGHTS to control what is done with it. 
 Of course, copyright laws DO vary from country to country...

Here's the basics for US Copyright:
   http://copyright.gov/circs/circ1.pdf

and, even more important to TiddlyWiki, the Berne Convention -- established 
in 1886 -- defines the international standard for copyright law:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention
and the WIPO Copyright Treaty of 1996, extends the Berne Convention to 
cover computer programs and comilations of data
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIPO_Copyright_Treaty

Here's a relevant quote from the Berne writeup on Wikipedia

 Under the Convention, copyrights for creative works are automatically in 
 force upon their creation without being asserted or declared. An author 
 need not register or apply for a copyright in countries adhering to the 
 Convention. As soon as a work is fixed, that is, written or recorded on 
 some physical medium, its author is automatically entitled to all 
 copyrights in the work and to any derivative works, unless and until the 
 author explicitly disclaims them or until the copyright expires. 


and the important part of the WIPO Treaty:

 Computer programs are protected as literary works within the meaning of 
 Article 2 of the Berne Convention. Such protection applies to computer 
 programs, whatever may be the mode or form of their expression.


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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Mat


Beginning to think maybe correspondence woudl be smoother via email, but 
after each draft I find myself going ok, just a few tiny things and then 
we should be done! - which has been going on now for quite a few drafts ;-)

Anyway, here are just a few tiny things and then we should be done:

I took the liberty of doing some editing myself, among other things to make 
it even more balanced. This included move the fish vertically a bit and 
making tw.com a bit more subtle (nobody can miss it though). I think it 
looks good, what do you say? I suggest putting my version as a transparent 
layer on top of yours to see all the detail changes.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--_BEuTiYnlQ/VK6NGrLpYmI/PHg/N3gasKR5xUU/s1600/DuartesPoster_MatVersion1.png

I'm really happy we got some input from my teacher. It really improves it. 
The bit about putting the headline alone on top is great and, funnily, by 
putting the url under the fish it almost like when you have an image with a 
descriptive text under it, i.e here you see a tiddlywiki fish sort of.

Now... what I would *really* prefer is actually this one crucial bit to 
make sure they can't miss what might very well be the tipping point to make 
them actually try it out. See pic below. The line is * intended* to look as 
if a friend of theirs just wanted to make sure they didn't miss it and so 
simply picked up a pen:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qr9UBCh0ELM/VK6N9ijhJsI/PHo/M0-ssKCFhNM/s1600/DuartesPoster_MatVersion2.png
The line is from this 
http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/954646/219601339/stock-vector-set-of-correction-and-highlight-elements-part-circles-arrows-lines-etc-hand-drawn-with-219601339.jpg
 
image (cut out and manipulated). I found it by searching on google images 
for hand drawn line and selecting color blue. BTW, the above versions are 
a mix of cut+move, type on top of stuff, etc so they are not real quality 
with vectors etc. 
 
I can only speak for myself, but I would be happy if it looks like this 
last variant.


:-)



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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos


I think we are getting somewhere!
Not much of a fan of the handwritten visual here, I don't really like the 
tick but I think can live with it :) Recreated it um full vector fashion to 
keep the SVG as true to itself as possible, also made an alternate version 
to see if anyone prefers a cleaner look.
Would love to hear Jeremy and everyone else opinion before we can call 
anything final.


http://www.duarteramos.pt/media/share/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoster08.png



http://www.duarteramos.pt/media/share/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoster07.png






On Thursday, 8 January 2015 14:17:33 UTC, Mat wrote:

 Beginning to think maybe correspondence woudl be smoother via email, but 
 after each draft I find myself going ok, just a few tiny things and then 
 we should be done! - which has been going on now for quite a few drafts ;-)

 Anyway, here are just a few tiny things and then we should be done:

 I took the liberty of doing some editing myself, among other things to 
 make it even more balanced. This included move the fish vertically a bit 
 and making tw.com a bit more subtle (nobody can miss it though). I think 
 it looks good, what do you say? I suggest putting my version as a 
 transparent layer on top of yours to see all the detail changes.


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--_BEuTiYnlQ/VK6NGrLpYmI/PHg/N3gasKR5xUU/s1600/DuartesPoster_MatVersion1.png

 I'm really happy we got some input from my teacher. It really improves it. 
 The bit about putting the headline alone on top is great and, funnily, by 
 putting the url under the fish it almost like when you have an image with a 
 descriptive text under it, i.e here you see a tiddlywiki fish sort of.

 Now... what I would *really* prefer is actually this one crucial bit to 
 make sure they can't miss what might very well be the tipping point to make 
 them actually try it out. See pic below. The line is * intended* to look 
 as if a friend of theirs just wanted to make sure they didn't miss it and 
 so simply picked up a pen:


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qr9UBCh0ELM/VK6N9ijhJsI/PHo/M0-ssKCFhNM/s1600/DuartesPoster_MatVersion2.png
 The line is from this 
 http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/954646/219601339/stock-vector-set-of-correction-and-highlight-elements-part-circles-arrows-lines-etc-hand-drawn-with-219601339.jpg
  
 image (cut out and manipulated). I found it by searching on google images 
 for hand drawn line and selecting color blue. BTW, the above versions are 
 a mix of cut+move, type on top of stuff, etc so they are not real quality 
 with vectors etc. 
  
 I can only speak for myself, but I would be happy if it looks like this 
 last variant.


 :-)





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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Eric Shulman

Don't use commercial product brand names!
The only brand that should be mentioned is TiddlyWiki.

laptop, mobile, iPad

   should be

laptop, mobile, tablet

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[tw] Re: [TW5] sorting the tags field on tiddlers

2015-01-08 Thread Jed Carty
I am a bit confused. The first time I tried it I had the same trouble you 
are having, so I came up with this workaround:

It looks like adding tags is special and changing the tags field to the 
same set of tags in a different order doesn't change anything. This is 
probably to let the add tags functions work properly when you try to add a 
tag that already exists. Either way, you can sort the tags like this:

$set name=sorted filter=[is[current]tags[]sort[]]
$buttonSort Tags
$action-setfield $field='sorted_tags' $value=sorted/
$action-setfield $field='tags' $value={{!!sorted_tags}}/
/$button
/$set

But then I tried again using your method and this worked. I don't know why, 
it may be something in the difference between how the set and setTo part of 
a button works and how the action-setfield widget works.

$set name=sorted filter=[is[current]tags[]sort[]]
$buttonSort Tags
$action-setfield $field='tags' $value=sorted/
/$button
/$set


Both of them are shown here: 
http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Tags%20Sort%20Test

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[tw] [TW5] sorting the tags field on tiddlers

2015-01-08 Thread Joe Bush
I'm trying to sort some tiddlers based on their tags, without having to do 
a nested list. The problem I've encountered is that the tags in the tags 
field are not sorted by title, so if I apply them in the wrong order, I get 
the wrong order in the list.

What I started trying to do is to create a tool that sorts the tags, then 
reapplies them to the tags field, but I just can't get it to work. I can't 
get the set widget to actually use the filter [is[current]tags[]sort[]].

Here's the basic part that I can't get to work
$set name=sorted filter=[is[current]tags[]sort[]]
sorted
/$set


here's the whole thing.

$list filter=[tag[Characters]]
div


$set name=sorted filter=[is[current]tags[]sort[]]
sorted


$button set=!!tags setTo=sorted 
 $view field=title/
/$button


/$set


/div
/$list

All I get out the other side of the list is a bunch of buttons that clear 
the tags field on the appropriate tiddler when clicked. Any ideas?

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
Tablet, yes. 

I could go with either when it comes to writing desktop vs laptop but my 
reasoning for using laptop is that people identify more with laptops these 
days and the word desktop has almost reverted back into meaning table 
desktop, at least in my mind. The real actual word is otherwise desktop 
computer, whereas laptop is unambiguous. Desktop can also mean the 
Windows (and iOS?) background area, particularly now with Win8 where it is 
something you must know about to switch to/from. But if you prefer desktop, 
I could go with that.

@native English speakers: I reasoned it should say your personal wiki - a 
single html file not just your personal wiki - single html file (the 
difference is the a before single) sensing this would keep both lines 
in a more similar grammatical form. Yes/No?

But I notice the gradient has shifted a bit so that it is no longer 
centered under the fish, causing a misaligned visible shadow. Could it be 
realigned without moving any other suff - other than possibly also letting 
headline follow it down those few millimeters.) 

Other than this, I think the one with the blue line (which *should* take 
attention) is pretty much perfect.

:-)

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[tw] Re: Sharing word and PDF documents through Tiddlywiki

2015-01-08 Thread Karishma Patel
Thanks for the prompt response guys! Will definitely keep exploring. Do you 
thinking uploading the wiki to something like Dropbox could help with this 
kind of situation

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Re: [tw] Re: Sharing word and PDF documents through Tiddlywiki

2015-01-08 Thread Karishma Patel
Thanks for the prompt response guys! Will definitely keep exploring. Do you
thinking uploading the wiki to something like Dropbox could help with this
kind of situation?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Tobias - excellent summary of external links!

 @Karishma - Geat to hear you like TW! Do tell your friends about it. BTW,
 check out Tobias site for a lot of other valuable stuff. :-)

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[tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

2015-01-08 Thread Danielo Rodríguez

Hello Stephen,

My keyboard snippets plugin uses a similar approach. Maybe you can base 
your work on it to make your own version, or you can extend the plugin 
itself.

Regards.


El domingo, 4 de enero de 2015 20:42:25 UTC+1, Stephen Kimmel escribió:

 This works in TWC.


 Although it is an approach that hadn't occurred to me, unfortunately it 
 doesn't seem to work in TW5. I can't tell you why it doesn't.

 Thanks for the suggestion, though.


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Re: [tw] Re: Sharing word and PDF documents through Tiddlywiki

2015-01-08 Thread Karishma Patel
This is great! I'll see what I can come up with as I explore and update the 
topic. 

Look forward to more suggestions/developments.

Talk soon, K

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer


 Sure thing, was actually my mistake there, moved the fish and forgot to 
 update the gradient. Also updated the word to laptop, that one slipped 
 through.
 Here's the updated version. Jeremy are you ok with all these latest 
 changes?

That smidge under free makes me want to get a cloth and wipe it away. Just 
my 5 cts. ^^

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
Also, the poster looks a bit crammed at the bottom.
I would perhaps bring that tiddler up a little and have the stuff under it 
breathe a little.
Perhaps make tiddlywiki.com a tiny wee smaller?!?

One more thing, this thread is huge,
perhaps a good idea to open a new one.
...or be done with it. ^^

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-08 Thread Jed Carty
For the moment you should stick to one of the options you mentioned. To my 
knowledge there isn't any plugin like the one you suggest yet. 

I don't know how hard it would be to make one, but you may be able to put 
together a macro using the regexp search that will do what you want. That 
may not be helpful in your situation as it would require you to redo all of 
your links anyway.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-08 Thread f10
Ah well, it didn't hurt to ask.

Thank you for you help!

On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 11:16:06 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:

 For the moment you should stick to one of the options you mentioned. To my 
 knowledge there isn't any plugin like the one you suggest yet. 

 I don't know how hard it would be to make one, but you may be able to put 
 together a macro using the regexp search that will do what you want. That 
 may not be helpful in your situation as it would require you to redo all of 
 your links anyway.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-08 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 11:16:06 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:

 For the moment you should stick to one of the options you mentioned. To my 
 knowledge there isn't any plugin like the one you suggest yet. 

 I don't know how hard it would be to make one, but you may be able to put 
 together a macro using the regexp search that will do what you want. That 
 may not be helpful in your situation as it would require you to redo all of 
 your links anyway.


http://www.TiddlyTools./com/#LooseLinksPlugin is for TWClassic.

It allows use of case folded and space folded matching to link to 
existing tiddlers.  However, it does not have any handling for using 
optional prefix or suffix text (e.g., automatically adding the in front 
of the specified title).

-e
Eric Shulman
Inside TiddlyWiki (The Missing Manual)
TiddlyTools - Small Tools for Big Ideas
TiddlyWiki Classic Lead Developer

P.S.  @Jed... although it's (currently) only written for TWClassic, you 
might want to familiarize yourself with my TiddlyTools site... many of the 
ideas that are implemented in the TW5 core are based on the plugins I wrote 
for TWC... and there's still lots of TiddlyTools plugins with useful 
features and functionality that have not yet been re-implemented for TW5 
(that is a long-term project on my plate).  At the very least, it will give 
you some historical perspective on what has been done before... and perhaps 
it will spur some ideas for you...

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I have asked a similar question - Compare to Base TW5

2015-01-08 Thread Tobias Beer
So, you want to package the diff between some wiki and empty.html?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I have asked a similar question - Compare to Base TW5

2015-01-08 Thread Jed Carty
A very crude way would be to take an empty wiki, get the output of $set 
name=allTiddlers filter='[all[]]'allTiddlers/$set and then use a 
text editor that lets you spilt the line on ever space and add a -[[ prefix 
and ]] suffix then rejoin the lines, then use this (with your big list of 
tiddlers from the text editor substituted in for allTiddlers:

$list filter='[all[]]-allTiddlers'

/$list

or if you wanted to include shadow and system and plugin tiddlers you would 
use $set name=allTiddlers 
filter='[all[]][is[shadow]][is[system]][plugintiddlers[]]'allTiddlers/$set
 
and

$list 
filter='[all[]][is[shadow]][is[system]][plugintiddlers[]]-allTiddlers'

/$list


This probably isn't actually useful anywhere, but if you really wanted to 
know you could use this. It may miss overwritten shadow tiddlers, so it 
wouldn't be perfect.
$list filter='[all[]][is[shadow]][is[system]][plugintiddlers[]]-stuff'

/$list

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I have asked a similar question - Compare to Base TW5

2015-01-08 Thread Jed Carty
And I suppose that doesn't help you export anything. So I guess ignore that.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I have asked a similar question - Compare to Base TW5

2015-01-08 Thread RichShumaker
Thanks Jed for your help.
I will check out what you did.

Tobias,
It is 2 parts actually
1. Compare the two files for differences on a Tiddler level, 2 Tiddlers 
could be different even if they have the same name.
1a.  Not sure if you can do anything about the Same Name Different Tiddler 
Issue although the upgrader does know the differences.
2. Package the Differences into a file
2a, Package select differences into a file by file type or something like 
that.

The upgrade tool does a comparison on your existing file and what needs to 
be upgraded that is what made me think of this.

Rich Shumaker

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Plugin for the-insensitive links?

2015-01-08 Thread Erwan


Hi Faith,

Sometimes in cases like this I create a tiddler First Tiddler with 
content {{The First Tiddler}}, so that the latter is basically a 
symbolic link to the former.
The disadvantage is that you have to remember which one is the original 
when you want to edit it, especially if you do that a lot!


Regards
Erwan


On 08/01/15 18:21, f10 wrote:

Hi,

I'm a new TiddlyWiki user and haven't seen a solution for my problem 
while scrolling through the group so far, so I apologize if this has 
been discussed before.


I know there is a plugin to help with case and space insensitive 
links, but is there one for the word the?


Example: I have a tiddler titled The First Tiddler and would
like to link to it as the [[First Tiddler]]


1. I know that [[First Tiddler|The First Tiddler]] solves this 
problem, but I would have to do that for a lot of links and am 
wondering if there is an easier way.
2. I also know that [[the First Tiddler]] would also be a solution 
when using the LooseLinks plugin, but I'd prefer not to include the 
in the hyperlink due to visual preferences.


Any help you can provide (even if it's just It would be better just 
to stick with one of your mentioned solutions) would be greatly 
appreciated!


Thanks,
Faith
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Re: [tw] Re: TW proselytism

2015-01-08 Thread Birthe C
Hi Tobias,
That will be decided by the court. To defend your copyright, you would have 
to sue.


Birthe


 if things should ever get rough, there is that implicit right you say one 
can refer to... albeit with an obligation of proof on either side, I 
presume.


 Best wishes, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Using the nameplate/TWcards idea to maintain a community plugin database

2015-01-08 Thread Erwan


Hi Jed,

Nice idea.

It is possible to automatize the updates using an external script, like 
I did with the community search. This way authors don't have to alert 
the list maintainer every time.


Regards
Erwan


On 07/01/15 05:11, Jed Carty wrote:
After some of the conversations during the hangout earlier today about 
the federation ideas and passing information between tiddlers I wanted 
to try putting together a mostly simple way to create some sort of 
centralize listing of community plugins that wouldn't be impossible to 
maintain. The idea discussed in the hangout (in the chat window, so I 
don't know if it can be seen in the video) was to have each plugin 
author make a tiddler that holds a standard set of information, then 
the author alerts the list maintainer that there has been an update 
and the list maintainer imports the tiddler with the information into 
the list/directory wiki.


This list could be updated faster than the main tiddlywiki site, and 
wouldn't necessarily only list finished plugins so that people who are 
interested in what is being developed have a central place to look. 
There is of course github, but form what I have heard on this list and 
during the hangouts many people aren't going to go search github to 
find out what is new.


I have made a quick example of what I am thinking of. The card 
tiddlers are listed here http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Plugin%20TWcard
Some of the relevant information from each card is displayed with a 
simple display template here 
http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#TWcard%20Listing%20-%20Plugins so 
that any cards imported into the wiki are automatically added to the list
And here is a form that can be filled out to generate the cards 
quickly and easily http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Make%20Plugin%20TWcard


The display template and information on the cards can be changed of 
course, please give me feedback on what should be included, or any 
display templates people think would be useful. I am envisioning 
multiple lists generated for different types of plugins, so multiple 
display templates would be needed.


The form to create the cards is self contained and doesn't use 
anything but the core wiki, so a developer could import that single 
tiddler into their wiki to make the cards.


I am trying to make it as close to automated as possible to encourage 
people to use it, and hopefully if people like the idea and this works 
than we could do a similar thing for the 
swarms/shoals/schools/whatever of tiddlers that would import a set of 
non-plugin tiddlers into a wiki, or a listing of public wikis that 
aren't necessarily the sort of reference/help wikis listed on the main 
site to show off what is possible.


I would volunteer to maintain the plugins list at least, if people 
like the idea enough to use it.


Any thoughts? Criticisms? Suggestions?
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[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW

2015-01-08 Thread Mat
That smidge under free makes me want to get a cloth and wipe it away.

Hehe, me too! And that's *exactly* the point. It *ensures* they can't miss 
free. If they miss free then, in their mind, this is *obviously* a 
poster for a product that costs money. Ads and posters *are* for selling 
and making money.

Also agree with Tobias' other points about perhaps making tw a tiny bit 
smaller etc. No big deal for me, but I do agree.

Also note the image seems to be 27,94 instead of the specified 27,90, at 
least in my drawing software (paint.net)

Apropos the long thread: Just now the view switched over to multiple pages 
(5 of them) instead of one long thread. Did that just happen to you too? 
Made it a lot smoother.

:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: TW Community Search

2015-01-08 Thread Erwan


Hi Tobias,

I like your approach, I'm very interested in taking into account the 
authors indications in an automated way like that. I created a ticket 
here: https://github.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator/issues/23. It might take a 
little time before it is implemented though, I'm quite busy these days.



You are probably the only one who has so many wikis so I don't know if 
the approach is generalizable, but I had vaguely started thinking about 
doing something similar at the level of tidders: 
https://github.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator/issues/6



Regards
Erwan


On 08/01/15 11:51, Tobias Beer wrote:

Hi Erwan,

I added a tiddler with my preferences for indexing.

$:/follow http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Ffollow @ tb5

All entries are sorted chronologically,
so you can realize if there are any updates.

If you think a different format may be better, let me know.

Best wishes, Tobias.
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[tw] [TW5] I have asked a similar question - Compare to Base TW5

2015-01-08 Thread RichShumaker
Just as there is an upgrade tool on TiddlyWiki.com it would be cool to have 
a 'compare to base TW5' tool as well.

You drag and drop your TW onto the tool and it tells you what the 
differences are, exporting all differences from there in a single file 
would be amazing.
I have asked previously about comparing two files so this is a very similar 
question just with the twist of using it as a drag and drop tool.
I also know that people are working on creating ways to import all the 
[[Tiddlers]] needed for a single plug in or macro.

Thanks everyone.

Rich Shumaker

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