[tw] Re: Marathoners

2015-01-14 Thread Jon
Very thorough - I'm surprised you have any time left to actually run!
You put my training plan to shame.

Jon

On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 13:36:51 UTC, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:

 Very exhaustive list. Nice work

 On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 13:19:22 UTC, Stephen Kimmel wrote:

 Like many of the things I do, this is a work in progress. It is something 
 of a hodge-podge of materials including some calculations. I started this, 
 in part, to learn how Javascript was different in TiddlyWiki than regular 
 HTML.

 http://marathoning.tiddlyspot.com/



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[tw] Re: Search

2015-01-14 Thread Astrid Elocson
Hi Alan,

Yes, I sometimes find that a bit frustrating, too.

The underlying search function in the TiddlyWiki code has an option to 
treat the entire search term literally. However, the search filter operator 
(as used by the sidebar search system) provides no way to set this option. 
In the absence of this option, the search function splits the search term 
into several pieces, using a sequence of one or more spaces as the 
separator. Any tiddler that contains any of the pieces (either as a whole 
word or not) is then considered to be a match.

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[tw] Re: Need help streamlining a TW5 for cross-indexing by 4 different criteria

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
Okay, came up with one way to streamline: instead of centuries, have a date 
field, input the date of the person, event, etc, and use the sort filter to 
sort by date. This would actually be preferable to me than the centuries 
idea. But how would I do dates that are B.C.E.? 

Dave

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 12:11:12 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi all

 Today I was inspired by Tobias' catlist plugin, and started experimenting 
 on a TW to cross index historical figures, events, documents, etc by 
 location (Germany), century (19th), and topic (Philosophy). I found a way 
 to do it - without the catlist filter, since I am not sure how I would 
 implement it correctly. See my results at this link:

 http://giffmex.org/experiments/history.crossindexing.html

 But my way of doing it looks like it will slow down the file too quickly 
 since it has the potential for many indexes, each with multiple list 
 filters. 

 I would like to ask for your feedback on the best way(s) to streamline 
 this idea.

 Blessings, Dave


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[tw] Re: [TW5] how to add a left menu ?

2015-01-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
This may be a bit intimidating at first but this guide is one of the better 
ones:

http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/

The author, Ton Gerner, has guides for a good assortment of modifications. 
His general site is:

http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] [TW5] Semantic fieldnames

2015-01-14 Thread Mat
I blatantly just drop this here for your free interpretations for now, *but* 
if you want some related background. I refer to discussions on:

   -  lookup-fields (or relationship fields) 
   https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1324 - see 
   specifically my post starting with *[edit: Sorry for using markup for 
   quotes* 
   - and Hidden tags https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1366 
   - see message containing phrase *A start from scratch again:*

Ok, here are the brain droppings, open for free interpretations...

Semantic fieldnames in fields serving as tags

 tag:foo (default, same as leaving fieldname blank, i.e :foo)
 hidepill:foo
 hideinlists:foo
 nolink:foo (or perhaps ~:foo)

hidepill+hideinlists:foo (or other delimiter e.g comma, space...)
 systemtag:foo or system:foo (instead of typing $:/tags/)
 systemtag+hidepill+hideinlists:foo
 red:foo or perhaps redpill:foo (attach predefined CSS class)
 foo:foo (don't worry, just a joke... or is it?)
 ...


:-) 

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[tw] Re: IndieGoGo Fundraiser Update - FINAL PUSH - THREE DAYS LEFT

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[tw] Re: TW5: Slider/drop down list in filter

2015-01-14 Thread RickL
Stephan,
Thank you so much for your work and specific directions.  This works very 
well and makes my daily journal much more automated and useful!

Rick

On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 5:04:21 PM UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Okay…

 Here is a first shot at it:


1. Create one tiddler for each meditation (5 mins; 10 mins; 15 
mins; 30 mins) and tag it as mediation
2. Create a tiddler meditation, tag it as meditation, add a field 
default and put the meditation-default value as its value.
3. Create a tiddler 
$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/meditation and give it the 
content hide
4. Create one tiddler for each excercise (cycling; running; 
yoga; boot camp) and tag it exercise
5. Create a tiddler exercise, tag it as exercise, add a field 
default and put the exercise-default value as its value.
6. Create a tiddler $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/exercise 
and give it the content hide
7. Create a tiddler DropdownFields, tag it as $:/tags/EditTemplate, 
add a field dropdownfields and give it the value excercise 
meditation. Copy the below content into the tiddler:

 $list filter=[titlecurrentTiddlertag[Journal]]
 div class=tc-edit-fields
 table class=tc-edit-fields
 tbody
 $list filter=[list[DropdownFields!!dropdownfields]] 
 variable=currentField
 tr class=tc-edit-field
 td class=tc-edit-field-name
 $text text=currentField/:/td
 td class=tc-edit-field-value
 $select field=currentField
 $list filter=[titlecurrentFieldhas[default]get[default]] 
 variable=defaultValue
 option value=defaultValue$text text=defaultValue//option
 /$list
 $list filter=[tagcurrentFieldsort[]] variable=currentValue
 option value=currentValue$text text=currentValue//option
 /$list
 /$select
 /td
 td class=tc-edit-field-remove
 $button class=tc-btn-invisible 
 tooltip={{$:/language/EditTemplate/Field/Remove/Hint}} 
 aria-label={{$:/language/EditTemplate/Field/Remove/Caption}}
 $action-deletefield $field=currentField/
 {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
 /$button
 /td
 /tr
 /$list
 /tbody
 /table
 /div
 /$list

 Now every tiddler tagged Journal should have your dropdowns.





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[tw] Re: Smallest Federated Wiki by original wiki inventor Ward Cunningham

2015-01-14 Thread Mat
Aha! Thank you Mario!! Great stuff - even if I've only had a chance to view 
one so far (#021).

Of particular note, for me at least, was Jeremys high level observation 
that Cunninghams vision differs from Jeremys in that the former wants the 
traditional wiki idea where everything is editable by everyone whereas 
Jeremy prefers the shared but individually edited way. If I had to choose 
one I'd go with Mr.JR but when we do go Federation I can definitely see how 
both paradigms could be beneficial.

BTW, regarding Smallest Federated Wiki, I find that story view 
http://fed.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors really interesting and I know 
Jeremy is interested in radically different displays (which I would say 
this is). I can particularly see it useful for mobile.

:-)

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:09:55 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:

 TW hangout discussions about federation: 

 HangOut_053video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amoSCysVyY41:14:30 .. 
 about federated tools .. and there UI
 HangOut_021video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqjPSqQySc01:05:30 
 Adrian- What do you think about The smallest federated wiki? 
 HangOut_020video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_-HhbEMiJ40:54:20 
 Nathan/Jeremy- about Federated Querying ... SPARQL
 HangOut_018video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFadJ6Ls2Y1:22:45 
 Jeremy- About Smalles Federated Wiki

 -m


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[tw] Re: [TW5] catlist renamed to xlist — xlist.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-14 Thread Jon
Hi Tobias,

This looks life changing. 

Thanks, Jon.

On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 23:05:18 UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:

 First of all, sorry for that...

 I have renamed *catlist* to *xlist* and decided to make major changes to 
 how it works.

 http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com

 The new name reflects the cross-table nature of the lists being gathered.

 Someone once said: edit ruthlessly, make multi-functional — so that's 
 what I'm really doing.
 Seeing as how this only existed for a single day, this should be excusable.

 Here's what's changed / new...

1. the macro is now called *xlist*
2. *all* parameters are shifted
3. the first parameter is now the *filter* parameter
- this is a rather obvious improvement allowing you to fetch the 
   categories using any *filter*
   - beforehand you were restricted to get them from a field 
   reference, namely *catlist*
4. the parameters *categories* and *list* are now combined into a 
single *field* parameter
   - if used, this specifies a *text-reference* pointing to a field 
   containing a list of category tiddlers
   - by default this is now *!!list*, thus making use of the core 
   list field instead of some *catlist* field

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] how to add a left menu ?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
I believe the OP is really asking for that classic MainMenu to the left of 
the story river.
And I'd also be interested in a perhaps painless way to get one, if desired.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Need help streamlining a TW5 for cross-indexing by 4 different criteria

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi David,

With xlist it would be very easy.

You don't even need any *xlist* (or catlist) field anymore
to get a cross listing for each of these

   - Centuries 
   http://giffmex.org/experiments/history.crossindexing.html#Centuries
   - Locations 
   http://giffmex.org/experiments/history.crossindexing.html#Locations
   - Topics 
   http://giffmex.org/experiments/history.crossindexing.html#Topics
   - Domains 
   http://giffmex.org/experiments/history.crossindexing.html#Domains

Simply use the corresponding tagging filter with the new *filter* 
parameter...

http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com

You can even do all that automatically with a conditional view-template.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Need help streamlining a TW5 for cross-indexing by 4 different criteria

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 With xlist it would be very easy.

http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com 


Ok, trying to get something running in your wiki,
I realize I was a bit hasty with that suggestion
seeing as you are using fields and not tagging.

Pretty sure your case begs for
some generalization using the each 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20each filter.

So, the wee problem is,
that this opens up four possibilities of cross-listing...

   1. a tag-category by other category-tags
   - this is the only one *xlist* currently does
   2. a field-category by category-tags
   3. a tag-category by category-fields
   4. a field-category by other category-fields
  - this seems to be what you're after
 - avoiding tagging
- why?
 
Best wishes, Tobias.

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RE: [tw] [TW5] Semantic fieldnames

2015-01-14 Thread andrew.j.harrison84
Sounds like you have a good grasp on foo.



Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G TouchMat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:I blatantly 
just drop this here for your free interpretations for now, but if you want some 
related background. I refer to discussions on:
 lookup-fields (or relationship fields) - see specifically my post starting 
with [edit: Sorry for using markup for quotes 
and Hidden tags - see message containing phrase A start from scratch again:
Ok, here are the brain droppings, open for free interpretations...

Semantic fieldnames in fields serving as tags

tag:foo (default, same as leaving fieldname blank, i.e :foo)
hidepill:foo
hideinlists:foo
nolink:foo (or perhaps ~:foo)
hidepill+hideinlists:foo (or other delimiter e.g comma, space...)
systemtag:foo or system:foo (instead of typing $:/tags/)
systemtag+hidepill+hideinlists:foo
red:foo or perhaps redpill:foo (attach predefined CSS class)
foo:foo (don't worry, just a joke... or is it?)
...

:-) 
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Re: [tw] Re: Need help streamlining a TW5 for cross-indexing by 4 different criteria

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
Well, to try your xlist macro, I have

1. the four category tiddlers (Time periods, Places, Domains and Topics)
created as plain old tiddlers for now.

2. A few subcategory tiddlers created and tagged with the titles of the
category tiddlers (Germany tagged Places, People tagged Domains, etc)

I know I will want at least two other kinds of tiddlers:

a) index tiddlers (Period x by domain index, Domain x by period, etc)
b) entries (John Calvin, tagged Reformation, Switzerland, Theology, People)

From there, what do I need to do to try this out? You have various
instructions and examples, but the problem is there are so many things to
look at, it is not easy to see the step-by-step process. You even have
other macros and templates, so it looks like what you did in your file is
more complicated than what you are asking the user to do.

Not being critical, just trying to point out stuff so you see where you can
improve the docs.

Dave

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:04 PM, David Gifford dgiff...@crcna.org wrote:

 I could switch to tags. I am just at the experimental stage. Actually, I
 downloaded a new empty and started to create and tag tiddlers to experiment
 with xlist.

 I do think I want date.ace and date.bce so I can sort by date, and replace
 centuries with time periods

 Dave

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 With xlist it would be very easy.

 http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com


 Ok, trying to get something running in your wiki,
 I realize I was a bit hasty with that suggestion
 seeing as you are using fields and not tagging.

 Pretty sure your case begs for
 some generalization using the each
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20each filter.

 So, the wee problem is,
 that this opens up four possibilities of cross-listing...

1. a tag-category by other category-tags
- this is the only one *xlist* currently does
2. a field-category by category-tags
3. a tag-category by category-fields
4. a field-category by other category-fields
   - this seems to be what you're after
  - avoiding tagging
 - why?

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Table of Content generate from tags

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Last spot to indicate the changes...

Please note, *catlist* is dead — except for that older, now revived macro 
by the same name http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#A%20Hierarchy%20Without%20Tags — 
 long live *xlist*.

I...

   - changed it
   - renamed it
   - moved it
   
http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com

Sorry for the fuzz, and move over to this new thread for discussion:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/wkqpTBBRVWo

As for James  Dave, please adopt your wikis to the new xlist macro.
The changes shouldn't be all too dramatic.

Best wishes, Tobias.



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Re: [tw] Re: Need help streamlining a TW5 for cross-indexing by 4 different criteria

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
I could switch to tags. I am just at the experimental stage. Actually, I
downloaded a new empty and started to create and tag tiddlers to experiment
with xlist.

I do think I want date.ace and date.bce so I can sort by date, and replace
centuries with time periods

Dave

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 With xlist it would be very easy.

 http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com


 Ok, trying to get something running in your wiki,
 I realize I was a bit hasty with that suggestion
 seeing as you are using fields and not tagging.

 Pretty sure your case begs for
 some generalization using the each
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20each filter.

 So, the wee problem is,
 that this opens up four possibilities of cross-listing...

1. a tag-category by other category-tags
- this is the only one *xlist* currently does
2. a field-category by category-tags
3. a tag-category by category-fields
4. a field-category by other category-fields
   - this seems to be what you're after
  - avoiding tagging
 - why?

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I asked a question a long time ago and it is still relevant today

2015-01-14 Thread RichShumaker
Thanks Mat for the links and no I am not in Brussels right now.
That is some cool stuff and it leads back around to  
http://indiewebcamp.com/indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/

I wanted to experiment on this at a very basic user level.
So I created this Website 
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/RSPublic-Wiki.htm, if anyone want to try, 
download a copy, and put it on the web in a place we can all see it.
Update the things that are specific to me.
Typically you would drag and drop a post of interest into your TW5 and then 
create a 'New Here' Tiddler so it links back, hence threaded.
So once you set it up, create a Post, reply to my Post, Experiment.

If you do join the experiment please Post here your site address so we can 
all check it out.
This is an experiment to see how things work and what works and what 
doesn't.
Meaning don't put vital data that you might need later without making a 
second copy somewhere as the data set might be deleted in the future.

I need to read up on the TWaggregator and get that set up to pull all sites.

Rich Shumaker


On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 8:03:03 AM UTC-8, Mat wrote:

 I imagine this stuff should be of (great) value for us! No need to 
 reinvent the wheel, at least not all of it.

 Keynote speak: A forward look at Federated Wiki 
 http://www.infoq.com/presentations/federated-wiki-cunningham by Ward 
 Cunningham http://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/ and videos in 
 general 
 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=federated+wikiaq=faql=f 
 on this
 His / the projects github 
 https://github.com/WardCunningham/Smallest-Federated-Wiki and an actual 
 wiki http://fed.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors (interesting interface!)

 BTW, anobody living in Brussels 
 https://archive.fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/panel_rtc_and_foss/?

 :-)


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[tw] [TW5] catlist renamed to xlist — xlist.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
First of all, sorry for that...

I have renamed *catlist* to *xlist* and decided to make major changes to 
how it works.

http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com

The new name reflects the cross-table nature of the lists being gathered.

Someone once said: edit ruthlessly, make multi-functional — so that's what 
I'm really doing.
Seeing as how this only existed for a single day, this should be excusable.

Here's what's changed / new...

   1. the macro is now called *xlist*
   2. *all* parameters are shifted
   3. the first parameter is now the *filter* parameter
   - this is a rather obvious improvement allowing you to fetch the 
  categories using any *filter*
  - beforehand you were restricted to get them from a field reference, 
  namely *catlist*
   4. the parameters *categories* and *list* are now combined into a single 
   *field* parameter
  - if used, this specifies a *text-reference* pointing to a field 
  containing a list of category tiddlers
  - by default this is now *!!list*, thus making use of the core list 
  field instead of some *catlist* field
   
Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Need help streamlining a TW5 for cross-indexing by 4 different criteria

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
I updated http://giffmex.org/experiments/history.crossindexing.html with a
little more detail to show the direction I am going in on my original
efforts using fields.

Dave

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:30 PM, David Gifford dgiff...@crcna.org wrote:

 Well, to try your xlist macro, I have

 1. the four category tiddlers (Time periods, Places, Domains and Topics)
 created as plain old tiddlers for now.

 2. A few subcategory tiddlers created and tagged with the titles of the
 category tiddlers (Germany tagged Places, People tagged Domains, etc)

 I know I will want at least two other kinds of tiddlers:

 a) index tiddlers (Period x by domain index, Domain x by period, etc)
 b) entries (John Calvin, tagged Reformation, Switzerland, Theology, People)

 From there, what do I need to do to try this out? You have various
 instructions and examples, but the problem is there are so many things to
 look at, it is not easy to see the step-by-step process. You even have
 other macros and templates, so it looks like what you did in your file is
 more complicated than what you are asking the user to do.

 Not being critical, just trying to point out stuff so you see where you
 can improve the docs.

 Dave

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:04 PM, David Gifford dgiff...@crcna.org wrote:

 I could switch to tags. I am just at the experimental stage. Actually, I
 downloaded a new empty and started to create and tag tiddlers to experiment
 with xlist.

 I do think I want date.ace and date.bce so I can sort by date, and
 replace centuries with time periods

 Dave

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 With xlist it would be very easy.

 http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com


 Ok, trying to get something running in your wiki,
 I realize I was a bit hasty with that suggestion
 seeing as you are using fields and not tagging.

 Pretty sure your case begs for
 some generalization using the each
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20each filter.

 So, the wee problem is,
 that this opens up four possibilities of cross-listing...

1. a tag-category by other category-tags
- this is the only one *xlist* currently does
2. a field-category by category-tags
3. a tag-category by category-fields
4. a field-category by other category-fields
   - this seems to be what you're after
  - avoiding tagging
 - why?

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] catlist macro — catlist.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Sorry for the fuzz, please ignore this thread,
and move over to this new one for discussion:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/wkqpTBBRVWo

In short, *catlist* is dead — except for that older, now revived macro by 
the same name http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#A%20Hierarchy%20Without%20Tags — 
 long live *xlist*.

I...

   - changed it
   - renamed it
   - moved it
   
http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Semantic fieldnames

2015-01-14 Thread andrew harrison
Hi Mat,
Please, forgive me if I'm not following your thinking about tags being
fields or fields being tags but I thought you might like to see how I
handle hiding foo. Tags and subtitle moved to the tiddler info tabs simply
by deleting the $:/tags/ViewTemplate tag in $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags
http://t5a.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FViewTemplate%2Ftags and
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle
http://t5a.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FViewTemplate%2Fsubtitle
and replacing them with the $:/tags/TiddlerInfo tag and giving each a
caption of Tags and Modified for the tab titles. Sure that leaves me with
modified shadow tiddlers, but they are accessible and not in your face. Let
me know what you think.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I blatantly just drop this here for your free interpretations for now,
 *but* if you want some related background. I refer to discussions on:

-  lookup-fields (or relationship fields)
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1324 - see
specifically my post starting with *[edit: Sorry for using markup for
quotes* 
- and Hidden tags
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1366 - see message
containing phrase *A start from scratch again:*

 Ok, here are the brain droppings, open for free interpretations...

 Semantic fieldnames in fields serving as tags

 tag:foo (default, same as leaving fieldname blank, i.e :foo)
 hidepill:foo
 hideinlists:foo
 nolink:foo (or perhaps ~:foo)

 hidepill+hideinlists:foo (or other delimiter e.g comma, space...)
 systemtag:foo or system:foo (instead of typing $:/tags/)
 systemtag+hidepill+hideinlists:foo
 red:foo or perhaps redpill:foo (attach predefined CSS class)
 foo:foo (don't worry, just a joke... or is it?)
 ...


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[tw] Adding Editor Help to the Internal Editor

2015-01-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
The discussion with Tobias concerning my prototype editor 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/udxz8SrnFPY prompted me 
to drill into Tiddlywiki to decide just how the internal editor's Show/Hide 
Button worked. While I was there I figured out how to make my suggested 
Editor Help a part of TiddlyWiki's internal editor. I have updated the file 
at http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html with the changes and some 
directions.

Since this involves a core tiddler, it should be done on an Empty wiki 
where nothing will be lost but time if you do something wrong.

This is what I did:

1. I created a Tiddler called Preview 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Preview that contained just this 
line: 


$transclude mode=block /


2. I created a tiddler called Editor Help 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Editor%20Help that contained the 
following:

''Select a Help Topic:''
 $select tiddler=$:/temp/help-browser default=action-navigate
 $list filter='[tag[Editor Help]sort[title]]'
 option value=currentTiddler 
 $text text=currentTiddler/
 /option
 /$list
 /$select
 hr
 $transclude tiddler={{$:/temp/help-browser}} mode=block /


3. I created some Help tiddlers and gave them the tag Editor Help The 
specific tag isn't as important as the fact it matches the filter tag in 
the tiddler Editor Help 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Editor%20Help.

4. I edited the core tiddler: $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/body 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FEditTemplate%2Fbody.
 
Specifically in that tiddler, I deleted the line:

$transclude /

 
and replaced it with a line that read:

tabs Preview [[Editor Help]] Preview


Because TiddlyWiki http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#TiddlyWiki is 
constantly updating itself, I had to click after each character to 
re-establish the focus.

 5. Saved the tiddler and the wiki.

Now when I click the show preview button, I see two tabs, one labelled 
Preview and the other labelled Editor Help. Clicking on the Preview tab 
shows the preview of the tiddler being edited exactly as before. Clicking 
on the Editor Help tab gives a Select Box listing the help topics I 
created. In my case that's Basic Formatting 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Basic%20Formatting, Images 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Images, Links 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Links, Lists 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Lists, Quotations 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Quotations and Tables 
http://teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html#Tables. You could include any help 
topic you want and probably all of Tobias' Markup references if desired.
It bears repeating: because this involves the modification to a core 
tiddler, you should perform this on an Empty Tiddler and use care.

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[tw] Re: [TWc] Field-based CSS?

2015-01-14 Thread Arc Acorn
Just to make sure you want to style a tiddler based on other tiddlers that 
link to it field date?

If you simply wanted to style a tiddler based on current field data you can 
use the plugin I referenced in this [[topic 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/JO9vgfOxF5Y]]




On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 5:33:37 AM UTC-8, magev958 wrote:

 Is it possible to have CSS in the styleSheet depending on if a field is 
 not empty?
  
 You can have tag-based CSS like...
  
 div[tags~=welcome].tiddler .viewer {
 background-color: #ffccaa;
 }
  
 ... but I would like to have links coloured a specific way in tiddlerA if 
 the tiddlerB linking to have field Field1 and it is not empty. The 
 field-value could be anything. Possible?
  
 /Magnus


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[tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Gotta say, a few days ago I wondered how one would possibly declare 
ingredients on a per tiddler basis.


What I mean is, let's say there is *Mac  Cheese* tagged *Recipe* and then 
we have a tiddler called *Cheese* tagged *Ingredient*...
I guess to add a list of ingredients to *Mac  Cheese* so that one could 
later query for where ingredients are being used, one would actually have 
to create tiddlers for each recipe  ingredient relation.

Perhap a cookbook is also a type off application were this annotation 
type of method as recently explored for youtube videos can work.
Instead of a timed-link, we would link to a step in the process or even 
more than that, also a component of the dish, e.g. a sauce.

Programatically speaking, a recipe tiddler could have...

   - relations to ingredients
  - specifying amounts being, e.g. *300g*
  - perhaps some additional note, e.g. *Gouda* is perfect
  - perhaps an image for a related ingredient
   - relations to components or process sections
  - something like *The Marinade* whereas that would only be part of 
  the dish, not the entire dish
  - possibly just naming the ingredients being used in the text
  - perhaps an associated image
   - relations to steps
  - descriptions for each step
  - ordered, obviously
  - perhaps an associated image
   - (tagging) relations to recipe categories
  - *Desserts*, *Main Courses*, *Salads*, etc..
   
All in all a highly interesting type of application to explore, I'd say.

Think of something like...

http://www.marions-kochbuch.de

...in a TiddlyWiki.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread Birthe C
Windows 7, Firefox 35, no crash but not able to initialise WebGL.
Following the troubleshooting link I feel sure the culprit is my old 
graphics card.


Birthe

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

2015-01-14 Thread Ed Dixon
This is so very awesome and so well deserved for you, Jeremy, and 
TiddlyWiki! Congrats! 

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 4:35:23 AM UTC-7, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hi Everybody,

 The vis.js developers just linked TiddlyWiki and the TiddlyMap plugin in 
 their showcase section.

 http://visjs.org/showcase/index.html

 Tiddlywiki is also referred to in their blog:

 http://visjs.org/blog.html#A%20look%20back%20on%20vis.js

 It's nice to see that since both products (TiddlyWiki and Vis.js) go great 
 hand in hand (Knowledge and Visualization).

 -Felix


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[tw] Editor prototype

2015-01-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
 

Folks,

This links to a prototype editor for TiddlyWiki I have been working on. 
Although this is functional, I have done this primarily as a working proof 
of concept. My main goal is to put forward some ideas about what the 
TiddlyWiki internal editor might look like. 

http://www.teamkimmel.org/TW518Editor.html

Because of the security concerns in the design of TiddlyWiki and my 
inability to figure out a way around them, the editor itself is an external 
file, editor.html, which is incorporated in the wiki through a borderless 
iframe. If you are going to play with this on your machine you’ll need both 
files. You’ll also need to edit the tiddler, Editor, to point to the 
correct location for editor.html.

http://www.teamkimmel.org/editor.html

My key ideas then:

   1. The editor should have a toolbar above the main editing window which 
   would contain icons/buttons/elements  which would be the equivalent of 
   Stefan’s and Ton’s Bookmarklets and Danielo’s keyboard snippets. 
   2. The toolbar should be extendable to allow additional user specified 
   functions. The last three icons in editor.html are functions that I created 
   to help me convert imported emails (the  and  signs confuse TiddlyWiki), 
   spreadsheets (this function converts the tabs to appropriate pipes, “|”) 
   and HTML files (changing some of the HTML elements to the TiddlyWiki 
   equivalents.) Other folks will have other needs and I’ll probably come up 
   with some myself.
   3. The space used by the “Preview” mode could also be used for optional 
   help. If the Preview were one tab and the Help a second tab, the Hide/Show 
   Preview button could hide or show both and the user could select as desired.
   4. The specific Help tiddlers ought to be specific enough and short 
   enough that the user can quickly find a specific technique to accomplish 
   what they want. Tobias’ http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Markup%20Reference is a 
   good example of the way this should be though I would break it up into 
   smaller topics.

Because I haven’t been able to figure out how to do this in TiddlyWiki 
itself, there are some kludge work-arounds that I used to make this 
prototype functional. This prototype relies on the user copying and pasting 
the tiddler into the editor on the left and the copying and pasting the 
edited results back into the “Tiddler” tab on the right. In my case, the 
“Preview” tab is not a true preview but simply a transcluded copy of the 
tiddler. This does allow the user to see the impact of their changes 
without scrolling away to another tiddler. 

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mVPqxGwGrWU/VLaFwJ3TGsI/A1k/ZAsUJQUzJ6I/s1600/editor.jpg

This is a work in progress and there are some glitches still. Although I’m 
now using it, I don’t actually suggest others use it instead of the 
TiddlyWiki internal editor. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos


That would definitely be a worthy exercise. I have started collecting some 
recipes in the past, most from my grandmother's recipe book using TreeLine 
http://treeline.bellz.org/and plan to keep doing it, but many are in 
analog paper format, which is very time consuming
Tiddlywiki seems like a more versatile way display it, though some work 
setting up fields and display templates would be needed to achieve a more 
structured approach.

Just to open up your appetite: Bacalhau com Broa - Codfish with cornbread 
crumb crust (quite a tongue-twister in both taste and pronunciation eheh)


http://www.petiscos.com/fotos_utilizadores/1bfa8d82a7c832766a5ae18d59da1eeeb_bacalhau_com_broa.jpg









On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 13:49:21 UTC, Stephen Kimmel wrote:


 Portuguese cuisine is rather rich diverse, probably one of the most I 
 could definitely see myself using a tiddlywiki to gather recipes, maybe 
 even set one up for my mom.


 I would be interested in hearing how that exercise went.  But completely 
 aside from my personal interests, I think you should use it as an 
 opportunity to preserve some of the hard-earned knowledge she's accumulated 
 over the years. Our parents will all be gone someday. 

 And I'd be interested in trying some good home cooking, Portuguese style.


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Re: [tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Birthe C
Hi Stephen
Nice to be reminded of Larry Russels cookbook. I remember that one very 
well. In TWc I ended up using another example from the same period 
http://no-sin.com/wiki/Recipies.htm. I liked the shopping list. I do use 
TW5 for recipes also, but nothing refined.

Birthe

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 2:30:36 PM UTC+1, Stephen Kimmel wrote:


 Well, this isn't what you're looking for but I'll share it even so. A 
 fellow by the name of Larry Russell developed a cookbook using what we 
 would now refer to as TWClassic. It was a collection of recipes as much as 
 anything else. I took his original and converted it to a more current 
 version of TiddlyWiki and added some of my own recipes to the collection.

 http://twcookbook.tiddlyspot.com/


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[tw] Re: Editor prototype

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
I like the concept.
But definitely two good, albeit separate ideas.

*toolbar*
 
I would only show the most common markup by default, at most 7 buttons.
Nothing like sub- or superscript.
Some reveal button could show an extended toolbar when clicked.

Which buttons are standard and which are extended,
can be overrun in the control-panel.

*help*

Next to *preview* there's a *tiddler* tab...
I presume that was an accident?

Personally, I don't like (to use) preview, at all,
So it's a no-go for me to have it always shown.

I would simply have two link-buttons just as there is one right now, not 
tab buttons,
conditionally revealing *either* help or preview in the same pane,
the active button / link being highlighted where clicked.

As for the markup reference, I would definitely prefer to
search / filter for the markup I need rather than tabs.

Tabs in a narrow space look ugly and don't make searching easy,
especially not when there are 10+ of them.
Rather, use a select box.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Smallest Federated Wiki by original wiki inventor Ward Cunningham

2015-01-14 Thread Mat
(I also posted this same material in another thread but figure it deserves 
its own thread)

A project wiki inventor Ward Cunningham is working on is about federated 
wiki. 

Here is an actual such wiki http://fed.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors. 
Interesting story view, among a lot of other interesting things.

Github https://github.com/WardCunningham/Smallest-Federated-Wiki

Videos 
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=federated+wikiaq=faql=f

Keynote http://www.infoq.com/presentations/federated-wiki-cunningham by 
Cunningham

:-)

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[tw] Re: Editor prototype

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 Search for Underscore and you won't find underline. 


That is a simple problem to tackle.

For one, in this example,
if you started to type under you'd have your result.

If you wanted other terms indexed,
simply put it in the text or in a...
!--hidden comment--

Personally, I find it easier to click that textbox and type *ma* and then 
find *macros* below,
rather than click a select box and then skim through a list to find *macros*
.
On the other hand, both are not mutually exclusive options.
You could easily have both in one.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Now, why bother with defining all that?
Well, that would make sharing recipes a lot easier in the TiddlyCook 
community.

In fact, perhaps the use of tags should be discouraged and a *cook* field 
used, e.g...

   - *cook*=recipe
   - *cook*=recipe-category
   - *cook*=ingredient
   - *cook*=ingredient-category
   - *cook*=method
   - *cook*=list-recipes
   - *cook*=list-recipe-categories
   - *cook*=list-methods
   - *cook*=list-ingredients
   - *cook*=list-ingredient-categories
   
Now, why use a *cook* field for that?

Consider multiple-languages
each with their own set of category tags.

Having a (hidden) *cook* field set to the type of the tiddler
will not only match the categories across languages correctly,
it will also make it easier to use the same templates,
and allow the user to name their category tiddlers or tags
whichever way they want.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Search

2015-01-14 Thread Alan Finger
Hi from a Newbie,

I'm trying to understand how search works and how to harness it to my 
needs: It appears that when entering a multi-word string, search returns 
all tiddlers containing the words in any order. What I want it to see only 
the results with that exact string. This will be used by others so I can't 
ask them to enter complicated filter expressions.

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
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[tw] Re: [TW5] I asked a question a long time ago and it is still relevant today

2015-01-14 Thread Mat
I imagine this stuff should be of (great) value for us! No need to reinvent 
the wheel, at least not all of it.

Keynote speak: A forward look at Federated Wiki 
http://www.infoq.com/presentations/federated-wiki-cunningham by Ward 
Cunningham http://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/ and videos in 
general 
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=federated+wikiaq=faql=f on 
this
His / the projects github 
https://github.com/WardCunningham/Smallest-Federated-Wiki and an actual 
wiki http://fed.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors (interesting interface!)

BTW, anobody living in Brussels 
https://archive.fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/panel_rtc_and_foss/?

:-)

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[tw] Re: Editor prototype

2015-01-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki


On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:50:37 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:

 I like the concept.
 But definitely two good, albeit separate ideas.

 *toolbar*
  
 I would only show the most common markup by default, at most 7 buttons.
 Nothing like sub- or superscript.
 Some reveal button could show an extended toolbar when clicked.


I notice that the Google groups toolbar has 19 icons/elements on it and 
though it does seem a bit much it isn't as excessive as a Microsoft Office 
product. There may be a key idea there though. If you only showed 7 or so 
at a time, it would definitely be cleaner. I rarely use the subscript or 
superscript but the bookmarklets existed so I converted them and assigned 
them to the toolbar to test my work.
 

 Which buttons are standard and which are extended,
 can be overrun in the control-panel.

 *help*

 Next to *preview* there's a *tiddler* tab...
 I presume that was an accident?


The tiddler tab is part of the kludge work-around to make the thing 
functional. It would definitely not be part of a TiddlyWiki internal editor 
if I could make it work. In this prototype, it is your main interface with 
the main wiki.
 

 Personally, I don't like (to use) preview, at all,
 So it's a no-go for me to have it always shown.


I agree that the preview should be optional since there are many times the 
real estate is worth more than the cost of the constantly updating preview. 
I assume that you would rarely use the Help either. I haven't mastered the 
combination of the reveal button and the expansion of the iframe to fill 
the available area. That wasn't relevant to the ideas so I put this up 
without solving that first.
 

 I would simply have two link-buttons just as there is one right now, not 
 tab buttons,
 conditionally revealing *either* help or preview in the same pane,
 the active button / link being highlighted where clicked.


That works as well. Tabs were easier to do quickly on a concept basis.
 

 As for the markup reference, I would definitely prefer to
 search / filter for the markup I need rather than tabs.

 Tabs in a narrow space look ugly and don't make searching easy,
 especially not when there are 10+ of them.
 Rather, use a select box.


I would definitely limit the number of tabs to a handful since something 
with dozens tend to simply become a cloud. The only problem with a Search 
filter is that you have to come up with the right word to have a chance of 
finding what you want. Search for Underscore and you won't find 
underline. But show a selectbox that has underline as a choice, and the 
user will have no problem finding what they want. 

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[tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Birthe C
Hi Tobias
Relations to ingredients:
I wish for being able to write a shopping list for a given recipe, to be 
able to search for recipes using the ingredients I have in store. A way to 
register leftovers to make sure they are used in due time and hopefully 
inspire me in my use of them. The last part would be nice in to days 
economy, and far too much food not getting used.

I know I would not be able to create a TW5 like that, but hope someone 
would be tempted ;-)

Birthe

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 3:48:26 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Gotta say, a few days ago I wondered how one would possibly declare 
 ingredients on a per tiddler basis.


 What I mean is, let's say there is *Mac  Cheese* tagged *Recipe* and 
 then we have a tiddler called *Cheese* tagged *Ingredient*...
 I guess to add a list of ingredients to *Mac  Cheese* so that one could 
 later query for where ingredients are being used, one would actually have 
 to create tiddlers for each recipe  ingredient relation.

 Perhap a cookbook is also a type off application were this annotation 
 type of method as recently explored for youtube videos can work.
 Instead of a timed-link, we would link to a step in the process or even 
 more than that, also a component of the dish, e.g. a sauce.

 Programatically speaking, a recipe tiddler could have...

- relations to ingredients
   - specifying amounts being, e.g. *300g*
   - perhaps some additional note, e.g. *Gouda* is perfect
   - perhaps an image for a related ingredient
- relations to components or process sections
   - something like *The Marinade* whereas that would only be part of 
   the dish, not the entire dish
   - possibly just naming the ingredients being used in the text
   - perhaps an associated image
- relations to steps
   - descriptions for each step
   - ordered, obviously
   - perhaps an associated image
- (tagging) relations to recipe categories
   - *Desserts*, *Main Courses*, *Salads*, etc..

 All in all a highly interesting type of application to explore, I'd say.

 Think of something like...

 http://www.marions-kochbuch.de

 ...in a TiddlyWiki.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Birthe, 
 

 Relations to ingredients:
 I wish for being able to write a shopping list for a given recipe, to be 
 able to search for recipes using the ingredients I have in store. A way to 
 register leftovers to make sure they are used in due time and hopefully 
 inspire me in my use of them. The last part would be nice in to days 
 economy, and far too much food not getting used.


Using links to ingredients in a recipe tiddler you get the list of 
ingredients,
what you wouldn't easily get is the amoung to buy, grmpf.
Perhaps we want some filter or widget that

   - finds a link in a tiddler
   - returns whatever text precedes the link in the line that isn't markup
  - e.g. remove any preceding # * : ; etc...
   - the result of this filter would then be used along with the ingredient 
   name in whichever button creates the entries for the shopping list

Leftovers, puh, really? Full-blown inventory mgt?
Like What's in that freezer? ^^
or Don't add strawberries to the shopping list if there is still enough in 
the freezer?
Thinks can get arbitrarily complicated, I presume. ^^

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Ok, now that was some serious over-complicated-engineering. ^_^
Here's a much simpler structure using basic tw constructs...

   - *recipe tiddlers*
   - tagging to *recipe categories*
  - with an *Ingredients* section with
 - simple links to *ingredient tiddlers* in the text
- thus providing backlinks to *recipe tiddlers*
 - with a *Preparation *section with step by step instructions on 
  how to do what
  - perhaps some fields like *difficulty* (1-5), *preparation* (time), 
  *duration* (time)
   - *recipe categories*
  - to know which *recipe tiddlers* are *deserts* , maybe also *vegan*
   - *ingredient tiddlers*
  - to list *recipe tiddlers* for *carrots*
   - *ingredient categories*
  - to list *recipe tiddlers* for *pasta* or *veggies*
  - to list *ingredient tiddles*, e.g. all *spices*
   - *preparation methods*
  - for those who want to go all the way to becoming a chef
  - to list *recipe tiddlers* linking to them
 - as the instructions should tell in the *Preparation* section 
 when to use the method
  
A conditional view-templates could easily
list the corresponding entries for the respective tiddler types,
main collections via tabs, e.g. All Recipes Categories, All Ingredient 
Categories.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Hopefully NOT for the next 25 years!

2015-01-14 Thread Nathan Smith
Jeremy,

Have you considered moving the TiddlyWiki community to Reddit? I'm not a 
fan of Google Groups either. Reddit is a vibrant community and an efficient 
communication platform, one that I think newer / non-techie users would 
naturally gravitate towards.

I think there's a far argument to be made for moving the mainline 
TiddlyWiki community to a subreddit (e.g. /r/TiddlyWiki) where active 
discussion, links to resources, etc. can be posted and moving the dev 
community entirely to GitHub where the more technical discussions could 
take place.

I would love to see TiddlyWiki get more exposure and I think a Reddit based 
community could help achieve this.

Just a suggestion.

- Nathan




On Thursday, November 20, 2014 at 1:06:15 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 My first reaction to Mat's list was frustration because I think we've 
 discussed almost all of those issues at some length in past hangouts. I 
 guess a lot of those discussions have never been written down in a way that 
 allows other people to see and join in.

 My second reaction is that I think that list reflects what you'd find with 
 a lot of open source projects, and particularly ones with our balance of 
 users vs. developers. So, there are other people who have trodden this path 
 before, and we should try to learn from them.

 Mat's way of putting things in his opening post was pretty brutal but he 
 has a long history with TiddlyWiki (since May 2007 according to the group 
 archive), and has made several tiptop suggestions that I've found very 
 helpful. So I knew where he was coming from.

 Perhaps the most practical use for this thread may be to discuss 
 strategies for dealing with the concerns that Mat enumerated. I'd be happy 
 to discuss things at the hangout on Tuesday too.

 There are also some lessons to be learned: Google Groups is pretty 
 terrible for us. As owner of the group I still don't have permission to 
 edit posts; I can only delete them altogether. I'd be in favour of moving 
 more of our project and dev discussions to GitHub Issues. The great 
 advantage there is that we can edit the title and text at the top of the 
 issue to reflect the ongoing discussion. Perhaps we should even consider 
 closing the TiddlyWikiDev group and moving all future discussions to GitHub 
 (I presume we can leave the group accessible in a read-only mode).

 I've a couple of other specific proposals arising from this discussion, 
 which I shall make the subject of separate posts.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hello Mat,

 Maybe you did not pretend to offend, but a post full of problems and zero 
 ways to solve them sounds like complaining. I can't avoid getting 
 offended about some points:

  


- No quality assurance of add-ons

 Since I programmed several plugins and widgets I would like to know 
 which of them you consider to do not have enough quality. It took me 
 several months to figure how TW5 core works and how to program using it. 
 It's a big amount of work and I still not knowing everything.


- Lacking documentation

 I have to agree with you. I used to complain about this. After several 
 complaints more I started to write more documentation. 


- The aggregated knowledge from discussions relies on 3d part system 
not optimized for us

 I have to agree with you here. Google groups lacks some important 
 features like editing post. This is useful to make FAQs and list of 
 resources. 


- Little insight into what attracts new users
- Little insight of user needs, tw applications, behaviors etc


 If you have ideas about this please share with us. 


- Challenging to get tiddlyverse overview (resources, applications, 
options, services, people...)

 I agree. We still need a repository of resources. 


- Demanding learning curve for customization

  Everything needs a learning curve for customization advanced use. If 
 you wan use TW like notepad is quite easy. Do you know how many things you 
 can do with excel for example? Pivot tables, conditional formatting, 
 importing data from external sources, macros all of them needs a BIG 
 learning curve.


- Too few developers (I'm just assuming this is always an issue)

 I am one of them. Try to keep us happy :D 




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 mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript:
  

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[tw] Search methodology

2015-01-14 Thread Alan Finger
Hi from a Newbie,

I'm trying to understand how search works and how to harness it to my 
needs: It appears that when entering a multi-word string, search returns 
all tiddlers containing any of the words. What I want it to see only the 
results with that exact string. This will be used by others so I can't ask 
them to enter complicated filter expressions.

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Alan

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[tw] Re: Search

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Not sure how much it really helps...

Custom Search Tab Exact @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Custom%20Search%20Tab%20Exact

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Editor prototype

2015-01-14 Thread Mat


Great stuff Stephen!

Here's a concept illustration to show a way for compacting. The idea is to 
have only the top row visible and the lower things appear when hovering 
over a top button. 

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nF8CycO7VmU/VLatT9y3W4I/PH8/3D_EtFZ-1WQ/s1600/editor_hoverbar.png
Could of course be even more compact, by stacking more. Maybe a user 
setting to choose compact level with 3 predefined modes (exposed, compact, 
supercompact)

A disadvantage w hover is it doesn't work on touch screens.

OR, another concept, again referring to the image: Have one(!) slider 
containing everything below that top row so the lower stuff is still placed 
below its related fellows.

OR an intelligent horizontal scroll with every command that learns (counts) 
which ones you use and shift them to the leftmost (i.e default exposed) 
part. No idea how well it would work (but I generally dislike horizontal 
scroll)


:-)

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[tw] Re: Smallest Federated Wiki by original wiki inventor Ward Cunningham

2015-01-14 Thread PMario
TW hangout discussions about federation: 

HangOut_053video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amoSCysVyY41:14:30 .. 
about federated tools .. and there UI
HangOut_021video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqjPSqQySc01:05:30 
Adrian- What do you think about The smallest federated wiki? 
HangOut_020video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_-HhbEMiJ40:54:20 
Nathan/Jeremy- about Federated Querying ... SPARQL
HangOut_018video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFadJ6Ls2Y1:22:45 
Jeremy- About Smalles Federated Wiki

-m

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[tw] Need help streamlining a TW5 for cross-indexing by 4 different criteria

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
Hi all

Today I was inspired by Tobias' catlist plugin, and started experimenting 
on a TW to cross index historical figures, events, documents, etc by 
location (Germany), century (19th), and topic (Philosophy). I found a way 
to do it - without the catlist filter, since I am not sure how I would 
implement it correctly. See my results at this link:

http://giffmex.org/experiments/history.crossindexing.html

But my way of doing it looks like it will slow down the file too quickly 
since it has the potential for many indexes, each with multiple list 
filters. 

I would like to ask for your feedback on the best way(s) to streamline this 
idea.

Blessings, Dave

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[tw] Re: Editor prototype

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Mat,

A disadvantage w hover is it doesn't work on touch screens.


It does, via click.
Touch screens don't have a hover state,
but they do have click behaviour.

So, what does that mean for your design?
With some smarts about Are we on mobile? the actual button would have to 
be
rendered into the sublist rather than immediately triggering the behavior.
 

 Have one(!) slider containing everything below that top row so the lower 
 stuff is still placed below its related fellows


better not, sounds difficult and jumpy
rather have a compact  full button to toggle the mode

that learns (counts) which ones you use and shift them to the leftmost (i.e 
 default exposed) part


please, no shifting-about of buttons or extra-smarts...
far too complicated to achieve and to work with

I like when things have a place... that I can define...
rather than being defined for me.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Hopefully NOT for the next 25 years!

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Nathan,

Perhaps not the best choice to post this in this already long thread with 
the problematic title,
actually opening up an entirely new topic.
Perhaps, create a new thread instead?

I would concur that reddit provides a lot more features than google 
groups...

On the other hand, the ui is a wee clunky in that it shows to many things
you don't want to see when dealing with all things TiddlyWiki. 

Also, google groups makes it easy to do formatting and embed images or 
attach files.
That's a very helpful feature where google groups has its strong suit... 
and reddit falls short.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] [TW5] how to add a left menu ?

2015-01-14 Thread Nicolas Ahmed-Michaux-Bellaire
Hi, 

I'm a beginner, since I've been using TW for quite a while, whithout 
customization.

I have seen some TW sites with nice left menus...

thanks

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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread Stephan Hradek
Also no crash here with FF35.

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[tw] Re: Install from GitHub - how?

2015-01-14 Thread Astrid Elocson
Hi Felix,

A drag and drop from the demo site would certainly be much easier. I should 
have read to the end of your GitHub readme :)

At least the Node.js info I've given may help someone else with a similar 
question some day.

– æ

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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread Peter Miller
Likewise no crash in Firefox. It also works very well with molecular 
structures (proteins etc) exported in WebGL format from UCSF Chimera. If 
you want a fairly complex one try File|Fetch by ID|4un3, File|Export scene 
and specify WebGL format (it takes a while). http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ 


On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 2:48:56 AM UTC, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
wrote:

 Check out the second opened tiddler in the attached file. Just click and 
 drag over it, or use the mousewheel/scroll and middle mouse button
 Bet you never expected to see that huh? Fully embedded, no tricks, no 
 external files or dependencies, and absolutely no coding.












 If you are interested in the more technical details I shed a little light 
 on the subject:
 What you see there is a WebGL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebGL3D 
 model of the *VectorTiddler *used in the community poster I recently 
 created.
 Since it is a vector SVG file it could be imported into Blender 
 http://www.blender.org/, an open source 3D modeling application, as 
 usable geometry where I worked the 2D shape into a simplistic 3D model 
 (adding in the process all other details and animation).
 From there all I had to do was export the 3D model using Blend4Web 
 http://www.blend4web.com/en/'s fantastic plugin which exports 3D models 
 into self contained HTML files containing all 3D model geometry data, 
 textures, lighting and animation and the required engile to render it all 
 (much like TiddlyWiki self is contained).
 After that it was only a matter of importing the resulting WebGL enabled 
 HTML file into tiddlywiki which promptly rendered it without a glitch.

 Wonderful what web technologies can do these days without any coding 
 knowledge. It should even work on your mobile/tablet fully offline.



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[tw] Re: Table of Content generate from tags

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Dave,

That is a neat experiment!

By the way, you can use the *categories* parameter to tell *catlist* to use 
the categories defined at a tiddler other than the one you're looking at. So, 
if the categories are supposed to be the same throughout all, e.g. 
*Centuries*, you can simply define them there and say...

catlist categories:Centuries

If you always want to show a catlist for all centturies, i.e. tiddlers 
matching a filter, use this method:

Conditional ViewTemplate Section @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Conditional%20ViewTemplate%20Section

For example, you could create...

title: Centuries
catlist: Events Groups Ideas Institutions People ByLocation

list-links filter:[all[current]tagging[]sort[]]

...and tag all centuries *Centuries*.
Instead of list-links you could use the tagging macro 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Tagging%20Macro.

Then create a conditional ViewTemplate section...

title: $:/.history/ui/ViewTemplate/catlists
tags: $:/tags/ViewTemplate
list-after: $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body

$list
filter=[all[current]tag[Centuries]]
catlist categories:Centuries
/$list$list
filter=[all[current]tag[SomeOtherTopic]]
catlist categories:SomeOtherTopic
/$list

Now you can remove all the catlist fields and special markup from your 
century tiddlers and you are sure to always see the same category listing 
throughout all centuries without having to set the *catlist* field for each 
and every.

I also like to use a summary field at tiddlers for use in lists, e.g.

$:/.tb/ui/ViewTemplate/summary 
http://youtube.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2F.tb%2Fui%2FViewTemplate%2Fsummary
*example:* same tiddler

and then...

$:/.tb/macros/summaries 
http://youtube.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2F.tb%2Fmacros%2Fsummaries
*example:* http://youtube.tiddlyspot.com/#Documentation

...rather than a plain tagging list, e.g. in the *Centuries* tiddler,
so as to show a summary for each century along with just the name.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Saving my Wiki online

2015-01-14 Thread Kourosh Newman-Zand
I couldn't find the TWc TspotControls for whatever reason.

But creating and saving the link seems to be the simplest way to do it!

Thanks!

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 5:26:56 PM UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:

 In a TWc on TiddlySpot, find a tiddler called *TspotControls*.
 There you have a link to download your wiki.

 Alternatively, create a link to your tiddlyspot in a tiddler.
 Right click that link and save as.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Alex Hough
I liked the phrase ZetelKastenCookBook and was thinking of a new type of
cook book, more a collection of patterns you would link together, like a
Pattern Language.

Add garlic at the end
Fermented cabbage in stir fry
Smoked fish in stock

 thinks like that

The cooking literature is actually quite conservative and prescriptive, i
want inspiration not recipies to follow

Alex

On 14 January 2015 at 12:21, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw the appeal for marathoner, thought I'd see if there are any people
 documenting their explorations into cooking.


 The one thing I only use my intuition and brains, nose nd taste-buds for...
 or a recipe to get the general idea, but so far, not really a notebook of
 my own.
 Ok, perhaps gmail... just to save it somewhere.

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Vis.js Library

2015-01-14 Thread Alex Hough
+1, a great contribution!


Alex

On 14 January 2015 at 02:19, HansWobbe hwwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations indeed, Felix!

 It's well deserved recognition of the outstanding work you've done.

 Regards,
 Hans

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[tw] Re: Marathoners

2015-01-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
Like many of the things I do, this is a work in progress. It is something 
of a hodge-podge of materials including some calculations. I started this, 
in part, to learn how Javascript was different in TiddlyWiki than regular 
HTML.

http://marathoning.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread Mat
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 1:51:48 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
wrote:

 Sad to see so many crashes here :(

 
There were actually very few as far as I can see. For me it could well have 
to do with too little memory (even if I must say the Chrome crash is more 
surprising).

:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki



 The cooking literature is actually quite conservative and prescriptive, i 
 want inspiration not recipies to follow

 Alex


Well, this isn't what you're looking for but I'll share it even so. A 
fellow by the name of Larry Russell developed a cookbook using what we 
would now refer to as TWClassic. It was a collection of recipes as much as 
anything else. I took his original and converted it to a more current 
version of TiddlyWiki and added some of my own recipes to the collection.

http://twcookbook.tiddlyspot.com/


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[tw] Re: Install from GitHub - how?

2015-01-14 Thread Mat
Thank you all for your replies, particularly Astrid for the details which I 
guess is what you have to do in the case when there is no TW to drag a link 
from. Now I know!

 :-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos
A cookbook of procedures, rather than recipes, is quite an interesting idea.
Not much of a cook myself, not because I don't like it (I do actually enjoy 
it quite a lot), more because I rarely get the opportunity, so I don't have 
a lot of experience and... you get the neverending cycle.

Portuguese cuisine is rather rich diverse, probably one of the most I could 
definitely see myself using a tiddlywiki to gather recipes, maybe even set 
one up for my mom.


On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 13:09:35 UTC, AlexHough wrote:

 I liked the phrase ZetelKastenCookBook and was thinking of a new type of 
 cook book, more a collection of patterns you would link together, like a 
 Pattern Language.

 Add garlic at the end
 Fermented cabbage in stir fry
 Smoked fish in stock

  thinks like that

 The cooking literature is actually quite conservative and prescriptive, i 
 want inspiration not recipies to follow

 Alex

 On 14 January 2015 at 12:21, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 I saw the appeal for marathoner, thought I'd see if there are any people 
 documenting their explorations into cooking.


 The one thing I only use my intuition and brains, nose nd taste-buds 
 for...
 or a recipe to get the general idea, but so far, not really a notebook 
 of my own.
 Ok, perhaps gmail... just to save it somewhere.

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Marathoners

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Interesting stuff
 

 http://marathoning.tiddlyspot.com


You might want to enter your dates in a valid date format...

   - 0MM0DD
   - 0MM0DD0hh0mm0mm0ss
   
That way you can...

   - modify the display format any way you want
   - sort them properly

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I asked a question a long time ago and it is still relevant today

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 Mat after reading what Tobias wrote I am not so sure that it is the best 
 use of the time you have.


Don't listen to the naysayers...
unless it makes you feel good.

Just take what a said as a precautionary tale
as a pointer as to what we're really talking about.
  

 To unify everyone at the end of the day(time could be more often) the 
 TWAggregator could look at our 'community TW's' that we each have and have 
 some basic TW functions to show all the threads with replies.
 If you want you can then drag from the TW Aggregator somehow and continue 
 the discussion on your own TW.

 Sound like a test that makes sense or just a waste of time?


As a test it may or will work.
As a longterm strategy, not at all.
After all, what the aggregator does is download all those tiddlywikis,
process them and upload some ever bigger file somewhere.

At some point, the aggregator will have to index tiddlers via keywords
and strip everything that is irrelevant... so as to lose weight a little.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Possible to include/transclude contents of an external text file into a tiddler?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 I have settled on using todo.txt (http://todotxt.com/) to manage my todo 
 list. I recommend it.


Not trying to convince you otherwise...
May I ask why the decision to use that and not TiddlyWiki?
Specifically, what was (mostly) missing in TiddlyWiki that you get with 
*todotxt.com*?
(preferably indicating importance: 10-high / 1-low)

Is it possible to transclude the contents of the todo file into a tiddler?

Can it be done with a relative path, so that it will work whereever I 
 access my TW from? 


This...

object data=./text.txt type=text/plain style=width:100%;height:400px; 
scrolling:yes
a href=./text.txttext.txt/a (embedding not supported)
/object

...works for me.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Install from GitHub - how?

2015-01-14 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Astrid

A drag and drop from the demo site would certainly be much easier. I should 
 have read to the end of your GitHub readme :)


Speaking of it, I think I forgot to add installation instructions :)
 

 At least the Node.js info I've given may help someone else with a similar 
 question some day.


I am sure of that. It's a neat explanation and actually should be 
documented somewhere officially. I also think it would be nice if other 
plugin developers follow the standard of creating a dist folder for their 
plugin to facilitate the integration as you describe it above.

-Felix

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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread PMario
FF latest is fine on my win 8.1 system. 
Chromium 40 refuses to load, but no crash.
-m

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[tw] Re: Possible to include/transclude contents of an external text file into a tiddler?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Demo...

Embedding A Text File @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Embedding%20A%20Text%20File

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[tw] Re: Hic trying to upgrade to 5.1.7

2015-01-14 Thread Stephan Hradek
I always do it like this:

   1. Download the new empty TW5
   2. Open it in a browser window
   3. Drop the previous version onto it
   4. After import and cleanup save the new version
   

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[tw] Re: Is Twiki better than Tiddlywiki?

2015-01-14 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2015 18:14:11 UTC+1 schrieb DaComboMan:

 Did have problem with Danielo's highlight search plugin.
 Recently posted to him a few days ago, asking for update.
 Still no reply.


What are you complaining about? Everyone here is contributing here for 
free. The only price you have to pay is your patience ;)
 

 Updating to latest TW5 was a serious issue, yet to be resolved.
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/DFIlKS17ysA


Try the Offline upgrading instead. Always worked for me.

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[tw] Possible to include/transclude contents of an external text file into a tiddler?

2015-01-14 Thread Matthew Petty
I have settled on using todo.txt (http://todotxt.com/) to manage my todo 
list. I recommend it. I still use TW5 for more in-depth note-taking and 
organization. My todo.txt lives in Dropbox, near my TiddlyWiki file. Is it 
possible to transclude the contents of the todo file into a tiddler? Can it 
be done with a relative path, so that it will work whereever I access my TW 
from?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 I liked the new TiddlyMap name so not really sure of a good Player name in 
 the same vane.


First I was thinking *MediaPlugin* but now I'm pretty sure it will be 
*CuePlugin*...
as it's main purpose is to cue in on a given point of a medium,
through annotations or otherwise just via embedding.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
chrome tab crashes
looks cute in ff, however...
my machine is coughing way too much with an i7

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[tw] Re: Marathoners

2015-01-14 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos
Very exhaustive list. Nice work

On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 13:19:22 UTC, Stephen Kimmel wrote:

 Like many of the things I do, this is a work in progress. It is something 
 of a hodge-podge of materials including some calculations. I started this, 
 in part, to learn how Javascript was different in TiddlyWiki than regular 
 HTML.

 http://marathoning.tiddlyspot.com/


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[tw] Re: Hic trying to upgrade to 5.1.7

2015-01-14 Thread DaComboMan
Thank you, shall give it a go! ;)

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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
Very cool, and no crash in FF

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 8:48:56 PM UTC-6, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
wrote:

 Check out the second opened tiddler in the attached file. Just click and 
 drag over it, or use the mousewheel/scroll and middle mouse button
 Bet you never expected to see that huh? Fully embedded, no tricks, no 
 external files or dependencies, and absolutely no coding.












 If you are interested in the more technical details I shed a little light 
 on the subject:
 What you see there is a WebGL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebGL3D 
 model of the *VectorTiddler *used in the community poster I recently 
 created.
 Since it is a vector SVG file it could be imported into Blender 
 http://www.blender.org/, an open source 3D modeling application, as 
 usable geometry where I worked the 2D shape into a simplistic 3D model 
 (adding in the process all other details and animation).
 From there all I had to do was export the 3D model using Blend4Web 
 http://www.blend4web.com/en/'s fantastic plugin which exports 3D models 
 into self contained HTML files containing all 3D model geometry data, 
 textures, lighting and animation and the required engile to render it all 
 (much like TiddlyWiki self is contained).
 After that it was only a matter of importing the resulting WebGL enabled 
 HTML file into tiddlywiki which promptly rendered it without a glitch.

 Wonderful what web technologies can do these days without any coding 
 knowledge. It should even work on your mobile/tablet fully offline.



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[tw] Re: Is Twiki better than Tiddlywiki?

2015-01-14 Thread DaComboMan
Hope i'm not the one who sounded impatient (wee exclamation mark).
BTW, sometimes i find it a bit awkward to getting about the threads of 
posts here.
More familiar with ordinary forums like those powered by vBulletin.

Shall follow your shared experience.

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Re: [tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki


 Portuguese cuisine is rather rich diverse, probably one of the most I 
 could definitely see myself using a tiddlywiki to gather recipes, maybe 
 even set one up for my mom.


I would be interested in hearing how that exercise went.  But completely 
aside from my personal interests, I think you should use it as an 
opportunity to preserve some of the hard-earned knowledge she's accumulated 
over the years. Our parents will all be gone someday. 

And I'd be interested in trying some good home cooking, Portuguese style.

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[tw] Re: Install from GitHub - how?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 Another way of course is to go to the TiddlyMap demo site's config and 
 drag'n'drop the plugin from there.


That's what I did.
One tiddler.
Done.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Table of Content generate from tags

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Did some more organising and added an example for automatic catlists here...

Conditional ViewTemplate Section @ catlist 
http://catlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Conditional%20ViewTemplate%20Section

As discussed above, the *Start* tiddler in the documentation wiki now also 
shows summaries for the examples...

http://catlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Start

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] [TWc] Field-based CSS?

2015-01-14 Thread magev958
Is it possible to have CSS in the styleSheet depending on if a field is not 
empty?
 
You can have tag-based CSS like...
 
div[tags~=welcome].tiddler .viewer {
background-color: #ffccaa;
}
 
... but I would like to have links coloured a specific way in tiddlerA if 
the tiddlerB linking to have field Field1 and it is not empty. The 
field-value could be anything. Possible?
 
/Magnus

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[tw] Re: Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 I saw the appeal for marathoner, thought I'd see if there are any people 
 documenting their explorations into cooking.


The one thing I only use my intuition and brains, nose nd taste-buds for...
or a recipe to get the general idea, but so far, not really a notebook of 
my own.
Ok, perhaps gmail... just to save it somewhere.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Marathoners

2015-01-14 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos
No marathons yet, but I do make a point on going jogging regularly, like 3 
to 5 times a week.
I use runkeeper to track my paths but other than that I don't have an habit 
of keeping a journal, though I am very interested in knowing how you do 
this with tiddlywiki.

On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 06:59:49 UTC, Jon wrote:

 Hi Stephen,

 Not at all at the moment - I wonder if that's why I'm not getting any 
 faster!
 How are you using it?

 Jon

 On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 03:35:28 UTC, Stephen Kimmel wrote:

 Accursed autocomplete. If so, how are you using tiddlywiki in your 
 marathoning?

 On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 9:08:38 PM UTC-6, Stephen Kimmel wrote:

 Are there any marathoners in the group besides me? If so, how are you 
 using tiddlywiki in your quarantining?



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[tw] Re: Highlighted search results possible?

2015-01-14 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello DaComboMan,

I just updated the download link, but still there an error that does not 
show any caption on the search tab. Hope I can fix it soon. Anyway, the 
plugin works.

El sábado, 10 de enero de 2015, 15:03:51 (UTC+1), DaComboMan escribió:

 Was wanting to ask you Danielo if you have updated the download link to 
 your search plugin?

 On Sunday, December 14, 2014 at 1:43:31 AM UTC-6, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello Vim, 

 Glad you liked it. Yes, you're right. Thanks for pointing the exact 
 problem. I want to fix it. 



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[tw] Re: Table of Content generate from tags

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
Thanks Tobias! I will have a look at that this afternoon, if all goes well. 
I had been wondering about that, because I thought it would be nice to 
have, say, one tiddler that filters People by century, and one tiddler 
that filters People by type (philosopher, politician, theologian, etc)

Blessings

Dave

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 6:02:08 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Also added an example showing a number of category lists in tabs...

 Tabs Of Category Lists @ catlist 
 http://catlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Tabs%20Of%20Category%20Lists

 Best wishes, Tobias. 


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[tw] [TW5] catlist macro — catlist.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
As usual, things may just turn out to be more than
the simple thing you had in mind in the beginning...

So, here's a wiki introducing the *catlist* macro and how to use it...

http://catlist.tiddlyspot.com

It allows you to list tiddlers as defined in categories listed in a 
*catlist* field.

See, just as I wrote the above sentence,
I realized that one may want to use a field other than *catlist*.

So, as of now there's a 4th parameter called *list* that allows you to 
specify a custom category field,
so you could can now use the standard *list* field if you wanted, instead 
of *catlist*.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] catlist macro — catlist.tiddlyspot.com

2015-01-14 Thread David Gifford
Why does this plugin remind me of Hunger Games?

Dave

On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 6:31:02 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:

 As usual, things may just turn out to be more than
 the simple thing you had in mind in the beginning...

 So, here's a wiki introducing the *catlist* macro and how to use it...

 http://catlist.tiddlyspot.com

 It allows you to list tiddlers as defined in categories listed in a 
 *catlist* field.

 See, just as I wrote the above sentence,
 I realized that one may want to use a field other than *catlist*.

 So, as of now there's a 4th parameter called *list* that allows you to 
 specify a custom category field,
 so you could can now use the standard *list* field if you wanted, instead 
 of *catlist*.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: You have got to see this!

2015-01-14 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos
Sad to see so many crashes here :(, I never had any problems with any of my 
models and certainly never experienced a browser crash even with some 
fairly complex test I ran.
I generally test them across Firefox,my main browser, Chromium, Slimjet and 
even in my Android phone, both Firefox and default browser and Chrome.
Internet explorer fails loading the 3D model inside tiddlywiki, but it does 
load well externally.

This is most likely related to you computer specs and graphic capabilities, 
or there may be some graphics cards driver issue.
Do you also have any problems with the direct link I posted above, or is it 
just an embedding problem? 
http://www.duarteramos.pt/gallery/webgl/tiddler3d.html 
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.duarteramos.pt%2Fgallery%2Fwebgl%2Ftiddler3d.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNG1IoapmDVBTHTt2LZhnqGyBntXvw

On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 10:38:06 UTC, PMario wrote:

 FF latest is fine on my win 8.1 system. 
 Chromium 40 refuses to load, but no crash.
 -m


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[tw] Re: Table of Content generate from tags

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Also added an example showing a number of category lists in tabs...

Tabs Of Category Lists @ catlist 
http://catlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Tabs%20Of%20Category%20Lists

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Any Cooks here?

2015-01-14 Thread Alex Hough
Dear All,

I saw the appeal for marathoner, thought I'd see if there are any people
documenting their explorations into cooking.

best wishes


Alex

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[tw] Re: Is Twiki better than Tiddlywiki?

2015-01-14 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello DaComboMan,

El martes, 13 de enero de 2015, 18:14:11 (UTC+1), DaComboMan escribió:

 Did have problem with Danielo's highlight search plugin.
 Recently posted to him a few days ago, asking for update.
 Still no reply.


Where did you post that? I have been a bit away for a couple of weeks. 

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[tw] Re: Is Twiki better than Tiddlywiki?

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer


 Everyone here is contributing here for free.


a wee exclamation mark
 

 The only price you have to pay is your patience ;)


that's a good one :D

Try the Offline upgrading instead. Always worked for me.


So far, I also never did anything else...

   1. download empty
   2. drag my old wiki
   3. import
   4. save
   5. reload
   6. done

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Hic trying to upgrade to 5.1.7

2015-01-14 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos
This is default reagular behavior I think.
I believe you were expecting to see your original tiddlywiki file 
automatically updated in place, but that's not how it works, instead a new 
tiddlywiki file is generated with the updated version you can then proceed 
to save.
You can overwrite the original file for the intended behavior of replacing 
the old one, but ideally save it with a new name, so that if for some 
reason the update process goes wrong you don't risk loosing any 
information, or worse end up with an unbootable tiddlywki file.

On Monday, 12 January 2015 14:45:20 UTC, DaComboMan wrote:

 When i drag/drop my password protected file over to TW webpage to upgrade 
 to 5.1.7, i am asked for password and do so.
 Then i upgrade (import) latest codes.
 When i click to save changes, the browser (Firefox) download feature is 
 activated to save the file.
 This isn't normal.


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[tw] Re: Table of Content generate from tags

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
I have made it a little more official now.
Any future updates to catlist and catlist.tiddlyspot.com will be discussed 
and posted there...

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/IwsgZNjVSCc

I thought it would be nice to have, say, one tiddler that filters People 
 by century, and one tiddler that filters People by type (philosopher, 
 politician, theologian, etc)


All of this should (now) be possible.

Best wishes, Tobias.



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[tw] Re: Marathoners

2015-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Added a note here...

custom date fields @ dev5 
http://dev5.tiddlyspot.com/#custom%20date%20fields

Best wishes, Tobias.

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