[tw] Re: Documentation in Russian

['Sergey Shishkin' via TiddlyWiki]

Thank you Mario, 

I understand the idea about clearing browser's cache

Now I noticed that the situation has changed and even the server 
automatically saves after each exit tiddlera edition mode when I'm still 
not going to do it myself. Miracles! But can someone something has changed 
there? :)

вторник, 19 июля 2016 г., 23:38:42 UTC+2 пользователь PMario написал:
>
> Hi Sergey,
>
> Well done!
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 6:41:34 PM UTC+1, Sergey Shishkin wrote:
>>
>> Friends, I am not a programmer. But I like your TW5 and I decided to 
>> translate the documentation into Russian. I decided to try to save the file 
>> on tiddlyspot. I uploaded file according to the instructions. But when I 
>> modified it, then the domain for a long time was the initial unmodified 
>> version. It was only after some time it appeared. This delay is normal? 
>> Tell me please.
>> http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>
> If you use a " browser reload", which disables the browser cache, 
> it should work faster the next time :) It works well for me.
> -m
>
>  
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Documentation in Russian

['Sergey Shishkin' via TiddlyWiki]

Thank you Mario,

I understand the idea about clearing browser's cache

Now I noticed that the situation has changed and even the server
automatically saves after each exit tiddlera edition mode when I'm still
not going to do it myself. Miracles! But can someone something has changed
there? :)

2016-07-19 23:38 GMT+02:00 PMario :

> Hi Sergey,
>
> Well done!
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 6:41:34 PM UTC+1, Sergey Shishkin wrote:
>>
>> Friends, I am not a programmer. But I like your TW5 and I decided to
>> translate the documentation into Russian. I decided to try to save the file
>> on tiddlyspot. I uploaded file according to the instructions. But when I
>> modified it, then the domain for a long time was the initial unmodified
>> version. It was only after some time it appeared. This delay is normal?
>> Tell me please.
>> http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>
> If you use a " browser reload", which disables the browser cache,
> it should work faster the next time :) It works well for me.
> -m
>
>
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[tw] Re: Documentation in Russian

[PMario]

Hi Sergey,

Well done!

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 6:41:34 PM UTC+1, Sergey Shishkin wrote:
>
> Friends, I am not a programmer. But I like your TW5 and I decided to 
> translate the documentation into Russian. I decided to try to save the file 
> on tiddlyspot. I uploaded file according to the instructions. But when I 
> modified it, then the domain for a long time was the initial unmodified 
> version. It was only after some time it appeared. This delay is normal? 
> Tell me please.
> http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com
>

If you use a " browser reload", which disables the browser cache, it 
should work faster the next time :) It works well for me.
-m

 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saved searches and external links in 5.1.12

[michaelharrison619]

Birthe,

I'm sorry, I've probably worded myself poorly. Let me try again. The issue 
I'm having is that my last search term keeps appearing in my search bar 
whenever I open a new instance of TW. Whether I open the browser or refresh 
the page, my last search is there, even if I cleared the search bar and 
saved with the bar empty when I closed the file. I can search for "blue", 
delete "blue" from the bar, save the file with the bar empty, and yet when 
I refresh the file or reopen it, there is "blue" in the bar once more. This 
never happened before I made the upgrade, and while I have tried looking 
through the release notes, I cannot figure out what is causing the changed 
behavior. Do you have any thoughts?

Michael

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saved searches and external links in 5.1.12

['Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Michael,

First you are not a clod. It is just so easy to feel like that at times...I 
sure know the feeling myself.
I also have a TW pinned in a firefox tab. I have made it a habit to always 
refresh the wiki before I start using it. Usually avoiding that problem 
with the search bar..and also avoiding to loose anything.


Birthe
 
Den tirsdag den 19. juli 2016 kl. 22.17.04 UTC+2 skrev 
michaelha...@gmail.com:
>
> Birthe,
>
> Thank you! That was a very simple fix indeed. Like I said, I am a clod. Do 
> you have any suggestions as to how I might get the search bar behaving the 
> way it used to?
>
> Michael
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saved searches and external links in 5.1.12

[michaelharrison619]

Birthe,

Thank you! That was a very simple fix indeed. Like I said, I am a clod. Do 
you have any suggestions as to how I might get the search bar behaving the 
way it used to?

Michael

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Saved searches and external links in 5.1.12

['Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki]

Try [ext[https://example.com/example-]]



Birthe

Den tirsdag den 19. juli 2016 kl. 21.32.12 UTC+2 skrev 
michaelha...@gmail.com:
>
> There are probably very simple solutions to these issues and I'm proving 
> myself quite the clod by asking, but since upgrading to version 5.1.12 
> (which is excellent), I have found my file acting up on two points: 
> 
>
> 1) I have my TW file as a pinned tab in my Firefox browser; I open 
> Firefox, I open my wiki. I am a user of TiddlyFox. Usually when I open the 
> file, if the search bar was empty when I closed the browser, it will be 
> empty again when I reopen it. Since upgrading however, opening the file 
> will have the search bar containing my last search, regardless of whether I 
> had cleared it out before closing the file or not.
>
> 2) Previously, my file seemed to be able to handle any link to an external 
> site I stuck in it. However, since the upgrade, the file no longer seems to 
> be able to handle links that end in non-standard characters. For example, 
> if a link ends with a hyphen (https://example.com/example-) I used to be 
> able to handle that simply by using: [[https://example.com/example-]]. 
> Now though, TW seems to read [[https://example.com/example-]] as a link 
> to another tiddler, rather than to an external site. If I just use 
> https://example.com/example-, then it does not recognize the hyphen at 
> the end as part of the link. This was the usual behavior before the upgrade 
> though.
>
> Again, I expect the fixes for this behavior are fairly simple, but for the 
> life of me I cannot seem to find them anywhere. If anyone has any 
> suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated. 
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> 
>

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[tw] [TW5] Saved searches and external links in 5.1.12

[michaelharrison619]

There are probably very simple solutions to these issues and I'm proving 
myself quite the clod by asking, but since upgrading to version 5.1.12 
(which is excellent), I have found my file acting up on two points: 


1) I have my TW file as a pinned tab in my Firefox browser; I open Firefox, 
I open my wiki. I am a user of TiddlyFox. Usually when I open the file, if 
the search bar was empty when I closed the browser, it will be empty again 
when I reopen it. Since upgrading however, opening the file will have the 
search bar containing my last search, regardless of whether I had cleared 
it out before closing the file or not.

2) Previously, my file seemed to be able to handle any link to an external 
site I stuck in it. However, since the upgrade, the file no longer seems to 
be able to handle links that end in non-standard characters. For example, 
if a link ends with a hyphen (https://example.com/example-) I used to be 
able to handle that simply by using: [[https://example.com/example-]]. Now 
though, TW seems to read [[https://example.com/example-]] as a link to 
another tiddler, rather than to an external site. If I just use 
https://example.com/example-, then it does not recognize the hyphen at the 
end as part of the link. This was the usual behavior before the upgrade 
though.

Again, I expect the fixes for this behavior are fairly simple, but for the 
life of me I cannot seem to find them anywhere. If anyone has any 
suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated. 

Thank you.




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Re: [tw] Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Josiah]

i have no idea what you are talking about :-). But I am sure its meet. x

On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 18:29:02 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Jed is right to point out the distinction between the implementation of 
> the mechanism for fetching tiddlers from remote wikis, and the application 
> logic that we have at the moment. The reason that we’re so collectively 
> excited about federation is that fetching remote tiddlers is actually very 
> difficult in current browsers, and so it’s quite an accomplishment to get 
> it working. In terms of the application logic, we’ve barely scratched the 
> surface of what’s possible. The current prototype gives us a solid baseline 
> for exploration.
>
> It’s a matter of the community agreeing the protocols that we’ll use to 
> communicate together, developing conventions that are then reflected in the 
> code running in the federation nodes.
>
> My observation on the great GUID debate is that, as Dragon points out, the 
> tried and trusted solution is to use UUIDs:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier
>
> The thing about UUIDs isn’t that they are displayed in a particular format 
> but that they can be generated in such a way that clashes across space and 
> time are vanishingly unlikely. We can use the PRNG built into the Stanford 
> JavaScript Crypo Library to generate good random numbers. To be clear I 
> don’t think we need to use a hash to produce the UUIDs.
>
> In TiddlyWiki, our unique ID is the title field, so we would store the 
> UUID there. There would be a number of other changes:
>
> * in the UI, de-emphasise the title and introduce default display of the 
> “caption” field, which would be used as the human readable title for the 
> tiddler. In the edit template, add a prominent means of editing the caption 
> field, and again de-emphasise the title
> * to be durable, links between posts must use the UUID of the target 
> tiddler. To simplify creating links we might want a variant of the current 
> “link” toolbar button that inserts a pretty link incorporating the current 
> “caption” field
> * to permit buttons for things like “new blog post” or “reply”, a way of 
> creating new tiddlers with a generated UUID for the title
>
> I’d advocate the “applications” built on the federation mechanisms to be 
> separate plugins. I envisage communities sharing plugins as a means of 
> sharing the conventions that they’ve adopted for their discourse. So, we’d 
> publish a plugin for “TiddlyWiki discussions” that would contain canonical 
> templates creating a UI for the modes of discussion we want to support (eg, 
> threaded by “parent” field, or just a list of the unread stuff in reverse 
> chronological order).
>
> I plan to write more about the meetup over the next couple of days,
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:01, Jed Carty  
> wrote:
>
> I think one of the problems that we are having with twederation is that we 
> aren't making a distinction between the process of technology of fetching 
> tiddlers from remote wikis and the application I built to use and test it. 
>
> They are separate things. The fetching part is designed to be modular so 
> you can build your own handler code for communication between wikis. If 
> doesn't have to be fetching tiddlers, I am not sure what else it would be, 
> but you can have it do something different. 
>
> For the application I built on this there is just a simple 
> blogging/threaded discussion forum. One thing people keep getting wrong is 
> that none of the handlers I wrote change anything about the tiddlers. The 
> titles are made unique when the tiddler is created on the original wiki, 
>  not when it is fetched by another wiki. That is all in the application 
> side of things. What tags and other metadata are included are also all on 
> the application side. 
>
> How you handle tiddlers with the same title is entirely on the application 
> side of things and already taken care of in what I made. If someone builds 
> some other application than how they handle potential conflicts is entirely 
> up to them and should be based on the specific use case. There is nothing 
> forcing anyone to do anything, just that if you want to use the application 
> I made you either follow the conventions established or you break 
> something. And the way I have it set now the titles visible to users aren't 
> the titles used by tiddlywiki when you use what I made so duplicate post 
> titles don't cause any trouble. Posts without titles don't cause problems 
> either, they look strange when they are displayed but if you don't want a 
> title that is up to you. 
>
> The way just about any tiddler in the twederation application is displayed 
> users templates, look at any of the twcards, they have no content in the 
> text field but they have visibly displayed data using templates. You can 
> create new templates to display them without modifying any of the days Inn 
> 

[tw] [TW5] Tiddlymap: Is there a way to group nodes into a group?

[Tom Bardout]

Hi,
First time posting here so let me know if this post should be elsewhere.
My aim is to make an interactive wiki that uses the liveview to jump from 
one topic to another related topic. I'd like to represent all sorts of 
things related to that topic. This means a lot of nodes all mixed up. For 
that reason, I'd like to know if there is any way to represent a group like 
shown below, encapsulating nodes instead of as is shown above. 



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[tw] Re: Tags quandary - how do I merge tag that have different case

[Matabele]

Hi Farayi

The ActionListops widget is designed for this kind of operation and 
simplifies code considerably -- to search and replace a tag use with the 
replace[] filter operator like so:

<$button>
<$list filter="[tag[oldtag]]">
<$action-listops $tags="newtag +[replace[oldtag]]"/>

Do This


-- the $tags filter will operate on the 'tags' field of the current tiddler
-- the 'newtag' entry appends the tag to replace with to the end of the list
-- the replace[oldtag] filter operator searches for 'oldtag' and replaces 
it with the last item in the list ('newtag' in this case)
-- the list filter is used to select the list of tiddlers to operate on 
(this may be any listing -- in this case the list of tiddlers with 'oldtag')

Hope this helps

regards

On Monday, 18 July 2016 10:52:16 UTC+2, Farayi Chambati wrote:
>
>
> I have a tag like "Movie" and "movie". How do I rename one or how I merge 
> these? My queries are now very complicated because of this. OR what do you 
> recommend?
>
>
>

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[tw] Documentation in Russian

['Sergey Shishkin' via TiddlyWiki]

Friends, I am not a programmer. But I like your TW5 and I decided to 
translate the documentation into Russian. I decided to try to save the file 
on tiddlyspot. I uploaded file according to the instructions. But when I 
modified it, then the domain for a long time was the initial unmodified 
version. It was only after some time it appeared. This delay is normal? 
Tell me please.
http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com

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[tw] Re: My TiddlyWiki Math Project

[reaktorblue]

I actually tried the Dynamic Tables before and although they worked very 
well, what I wasn't able to get working was the sorting. The sorting seemed 
to work in ascending order but clicking the header again didn't allow for 
sorting in descending then again, perhaps I was doing something wrong.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 6:03:21 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I made suitable tables using only wikitext but I am not sure if it can be 
> adapted to this situation. The demo site for what I made is here if you 
> want to look http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/DynamicTables/

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Re: [tw] Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Jed is right to point out the distinction between the implementation of the 
mechanism for fetching tiddlers from remote wikis, and the application logic 
that we have at the moment. The reason that we’re so collectively excited about 
federation is that fetching remote tiddlers is actually very difficult in 
current browsers, and so it’s quite an accomplishment to get it working. In 
terms of the application logic, we’ve barely scratched the surface of what’s 
possible. The current prototype gives us a solid baseline for exploration.

It’s a matter of the community agreeing the protocols that we’ll use to 
communicate together, developing conventions that are then reflected in the 
code running in the federation nodes.

My observation on the great GUID debate is that, as Dragon points out, the 
tried and trusted solution is to use UUIDs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier 


The thing about UUIDs isn’t that they are displayed in a particular format but 
that they can be generated in such a way that clashes across space and time are 
vanishingly unlikely. We can use the PRNG built into the Stanford JavaScript 
Crypo Library to generate good random numbers. To be clear I don’t think we 
need to use a hash to produce the UUIDs.

In TiddlyWiki, our unique ID is the title field, so we would store the UUID 
there. There would be a number of other changes:

* in the UI, de-emphasise the title and introduce default display of the 
“caption” field, which would be used as the human readable title for the 
tiddler. In the edit template, add a prominent means of editing the caption 
field, and again de-emphasise the title
* to be durable, links between posts must use the UUID of the target tiddler. 
To simplify creating links we might want a variant of the current “link” 
toolbar button that inserts a pretty link incorporating the current “caption” 
field
* to permit buttons for things like “new blog post” or “reply”, a way of 
creating new tiddlers with a generated UUID for the title

I’d advocate the “applications” built on the federation mechanisms to be 
separate plugins. I envisage communities sharing plugins as a means of sharing 
the conventions that they’ve adopted for their discourse. So, we’d publish a 
plugin for “TiddlyWiki discussions” that would contain canonical templates 
creating a UI for the modes of discussion we want to support (eg, threaded by 
“parent” field, or just a list of the unread stuff in reverse chronological 
order).

I plan to write more about the meetup over the next couple of days,

Best wishes,

Jeremy



> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:01, Jed Carty  wrote:
> 
> I think one of the problems that we are having with twederation is that we 
> aren't making a distinction between the process of technology of fetching 
> tiddlers from remote wikis and the application I built to use and test it. 
> 
> They are separate things. The fetching part is designed to be modular so you 
> can build your own handler code for communication between wikis. If doesn't 
> have to be fetching tiddlers, I am not sure what else it would be, but you 
> can have it do something different. 
> 
> For the application I built on this there is just a simple blogging/threaded 
> discussion forum. One thing people keep getting wrong is that none of the 
> handlers I wrote change anything about the tiddlers. The titles are made 
> unique when the tiddler is created on the original wiki,  not when it is 
> fetched by another wiki. That is all in the application side of things. What 
> tags and other metadata are included are also all on the application side. 
> 
> How you handle tiddlers with the same title is entirely on the application 
> side of things and already taken care of in what I made. If someone builds 
> some other application than how they handle potential conflicts is entirely 
> up to them and should be based on the specific use case. There is nothing 
> forcing anyone to do anything, just that if you want to use the application I 
> made you either follow the conventions established or you break something. 
> And the way I have it set now the titles visible to users aren't the titles 
> used by tiddlywiki when you use what I made so duplicate post titles don't 
> cause any trouble. Posts without titles don't cause problems either, they 
> look strange when they are displayed but if you don't want a title that is up 
> to you. 
> 
> The way just about any tiddler in the twederation application is displayed 
> users templates, look at any of the twcards, they have no content in the text 
> field but they have visibly displayed data using templates. You can create 
> new templates to display them without modifying any of the days Inn the 
> tiddlers themselves. I have created multiple plugins that use this idea for 
> bookmarks, a library tracker and a contacts database. 
> 
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[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

['c pa' via TiddlyWiki]

>> How do we handle the importing of Tiddlers with the same Title?

I have not looked at the twederation code but here's my 2 pfennings

The easiest way to do this without dependencies would be to do the following
1. The importing TiddlyWiki would assign a GUID (guid_tw_path) to the path 
to the tiddler from which the new tiddler is being imported
2. The importing TiddlyWiki would assign a GUID (guid_tw_tiddler) to the 
tiddler being imported
3. The importing TiddlyWiki creates a new tiddler that shadows the external 
tiddler (and copies its contents so it doesn't have to be imported every 
time?)
a. Assigns guid_tw_pathto the field"guid_tw_path"
b. Assigns guid_tw_tiddler to the field "title"
c. Assigns the foreign tiddler's title to a field called 
"twederation_title"
d. Alter the view template to display both title and  twederation_title 
with twederation_title emphasized if it exists

This way you have the following
1. A copy of the external tiddler available for offline use
2. A unique link from your TW to the foreign TW (GUID 1)
3. A unique Id for the foreign tiddler (GUID 2)
4. A unique id for the path from the local content to be able to refresh 
from the foreign TW (GUID1 + 2)
5. If the foreign TW renames the tiddler or edits it beyond recognition, 
local fallback content
6. The ability to cache or provide history for foreign changes etc. as an 
add on for controlling your content

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[tw] Re: How to reset a state field when a tiddler is closed and reopened?

['c pa' via TiddlyWiki]

Robert,

You can do this if the user is opening the exercise tiddler from a button 
rather than a link. This means that in your index of exercises, rather than

[[exercise name]]or <$link to="exercise name"> Exercise name

Use

<$button to="exercise name">
exercise name
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/whatever" text=""/>



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[tw] Re: [TW5] use reveal for showing/hiding a button depending on if tiddler with a specific name does exist?

['c pa' via TiddlyWiki]

Eric,

>> and it works just fine to use the transclusion in the macro syntax.

# You are absolutely right. 
# There are edge cases where things don't work as expected
# My brain can't remember what the edge cases are
# Since debugging the source of the error takes longer than writing the 
code, and I write complex code, I've adopted the following practices
#* I use <$macrocall $name="macroname" /> rather than <>
#* I pass all variables as parameters . . . $variablename$ rather than 
$(variablename)$
#* I always assign a variable="loop variable name" in my $list calls
#* I use <> or $currentTiddler$ rather than 
<> 

Granted. It takes way longer to write the code. And so way longer to whip 
up quick solutions. So this methodology stinks for on the fly fixes.

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[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Josiah]

Jed. I want to make a simple reply to your "There is nothing forcing anyone 
to do anything" ... BUT, given what YOU have done, don't shy away from that 
IF it will make it run easier.

The whole thing is not so easy to get your head around. Not for idiots like 
me. I'm noticing its moved on a lot. And hopeful the full release will make 
clear sense. I kinda get the jist but I won't try it quite yet.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 13:01:59 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I think one of the problems that we are having with twederation is that we 
> aren't making a distinction between the process of technology of fetching 
> tiddlers from remote wikis and the application I built to use and test it. 
>
> They are separate things. The fetching part is designed to be modular so 
> you can build your own handler code for communication between wikis. If 
> doesn't have to be fetching tiddlers, I am not sure what else it would be, 
> but you can have it do something different. 
>
> For the application I built on this there is just a simple 
> blogging/threaded discussion forum. One thing people keep getting wrong is 
> that none of the handlers I wrote change anything about the tiddlers. The 
> titles are made unique when the tiddler is created on the original wiki, 
>  not when it is fetched by another wiki. That is all in the application 
> side of things. What tags and other metadata are included are also all on 
> the application side. 
>
> How you handle tiddlers with the same title is entirely on the application 
> side of things and already taken care of in what I made. If someone builds 
> some other application than how they handle potential conflicts is entirely 
> up to them and should be based on the specific use case. There is nothing 
> forcing anyone to do anything, just that if you want to use the application 
> I made you either follow the conventions established or you break 
> something. And the way I have it set now the titles visible to users aren't 
> the titles used by tiddlywiki when you use what I made so duplicate post 
> titles don't cause any trouble. Posts without titles don't cause problems 
> either, they look strange when they are displayed but if you don't want a 
> title that is up to you. 
>
> The way just about any tiddler in the twederation application is displayed 
> users templates, look at any of the twcards, they have no content in the 
> text field but they have visibly displayed data using templates. You can 
> create new templates to display them without modifying any of the days Inn 
> the tiddlers themselves. I have created multiple plugins that use this idea 
> for bookmarks, a library tracker and a contacts database. 
>
>

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[tw] How to reset a state field when a tiddler is closed and reopened?

[Robert Paech]

I am trying to use TiddlyWiki to create a database of exercises.  The 
database includes descriptions on how to prepare for and execute an 
exercise, with corresponding videos for the preparation and execution 
movements.

My current intention is for each exercise tiddler to open with a thumbnail 
image of the exercise along with two buttons that will allow the user to 
view either the preparation or execution videos. In each case, the 
thumbnail image (or video) should be replaced with the preparation or 
execution video of the respective button when selected.

I have created the tiddler template below to include the videos in each 
exercise tiddler, and it pretty much does what I want, except for one 
problem, which I don't know how to solve.

What I would like to happen is that when the exercise tiddler is closed and 
reopened, the tiddler returns to the original state of showing the 
thumbnail image.  However, as I need to use a field or tiddler to store the 
button/reveal state, when I reopen an exercise tiddler it uses the last 
state value that was set.

Is there a way to use variables for this purpose or to reset a tiddler 
field when a tiddler is closed? Alternatively, is there a better way to 
solving my problem?

<$button><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/exw/state/video" 
$value="prep"/>Preparation
<$button><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/exw/state/video" 
$value="exec"/>Execution
<$reveal type="nomatch" state="$:/exw/state/video" text="image">
<$button><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/exw/state/video" 
$value="image"/>Reset


<$reveal type="match" state="$:/exw/state/video" text="prep">


<$reveal type="match" state="$:/exw/state/video" text="exec">


<$reveal type="match" state="$:/exw/state/video" text="image">
<$image width={{$:/exw/setting/video-size}} source={{!!image}}>


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[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Jed Carty]

I think one of the problems that we are having with twederation is that we 
aren't making a distinction between the process of technology of fetching 
tiddlers from remote wikis and the application I built to use and test it. 

They are separate things. The fetching part is designed to be modular so you 
can build your own handler code for communication between wikis. If doesn't 
have to be fetching tiddlers, I am not sure what else it would be, but you can 
have it do something different. 

For the application I built on this there is just a simple blogging/threaded 
discussion forum. One thing people keep getting wrong is that none of the 
handlers I wrote change anything about the tiddlers. The titles are made unique 
when the tiddler is created on the original wiki,  not when it is fetched by 
another wiki. That is all in the application side of things. What tags and 
other metadata are included are also all on the application side. 

How you handle tiddlers with the same title is entirely on the application side 
of things and already taken care of in what I made. If someone builds some 
other application than how they handle potential conflicts is entirely up to 
them and should be based on the specific use case. There is nothing forcing 
anyone to do anything, just that if you want to use the application I made you 
either follow the conventions established or you break something. And the way I 
have it set now the titles visible to users aren't the titles used by 
tiddlywiki when you use what I made so duplicate post titles don't cause any 
trouble. Posts without titles don't cause problems either, they look strange 
when they are displayed but if you don't want a title that is up to you. 

The way just about any tiddler in the twederation application is displayed 
users templates, look at any of the twcards, they have no content in the text 
field but they have visibly displayed data using templates. You can create new 
templates to display them without modifying any of the days Inn the tiddlers 
themselves. I have created multiple plugins that use this idea for bookmarks, a 
library tracker and a contacts database. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] More twederation from the meetup

[Jed Carty]

The fetch from Google tool was created as a temporary solution to getting new 
people into the network and isn't intended for use. If you are using the newest 
version that it should be only pulling enough data from want was sent to Google 
to get the twcard from the new wikis themselves. But I still do part of that 
manually. 

I don't know what 'add new'  function you are referring to in this case. 

There isn't currently a way to disseminate fixes so I am going to recommend 
that people just delete the cards and pull the new ones from 
twederation.tiddlyspot.com once I get everything sorted out. The update is only 
removing the route field and adding a role field with twServer in it. 

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[tw] Re: My TiddlyWiki Math Project

[Jed Carty]

I made suitable tables using only wikitext but I am not sure if it can be 
adapted to this situation. The demo site for what I made is here if you want to 
look http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/DynamicTables/

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[tw] Re: Tags quandary - how do I merge tag that have different case

[Farayi Chambati]

Thanks Reakt..

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 3:25:13 AM UTC+12, reakt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> You may also want to check out the Search and Replace Tag wizard - 
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Search%20And%20Replace%20Tag
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[tw] Re: Tags quandary - how do I merge tag that have different case

[Farayi Chambati]

Thanks RichardWilliamSmith again. The utility worked a treat. I have 
applied in the production file.

Best regards,

On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:37:47 PM UTC+12, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> Hi Farayi,
>
> I made this for you, it's a "tag re-tagger" - it can swap one tag for 
> another (existing) tag over all tiddlers. let me know if it works. Please 
> make a copy of your wiki before using it.
>
> Copy the following into a tiddler - it doesn't matter what it's called;
>
> !!!This removes one tag and adds another
>
> Be careful. There is no undo.
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> remove
>
> 
>
> 
>
> <$select tiddler=<> field="tagtoremove" default='notset'>
>
> <$list filter='[all[tiddlers]tags[]]'>
>
> > field="tagtoremove"><$view 
>> field='title'/>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> and add
>
> 
>
> 
>
> <$select tiddler=<> field="tagtoadd" default='notset'>
>
> <$list filter='[all[tiddlers]tags[]]'>
>
> > field="tagtoadd"><$view 
>> field='title'/>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> <$set name="newTag" value={{!!tagtoadd}}>
>
> <$set name="oldTag" value={{!!tagtoremove}}>
>
> <$button>
>
> <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag{!!tagtoremove}]">
>
> <$fieldmangler>
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<>/>
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param=<>/>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Click me!
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag{!!tagtoremove}]">
>
> <$link>{{!!title}}
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag{!!tagtoadd}]">
>
> <$link>{{!!title}}
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
> If you want to put this tool in the control panel, give it the tag 
> $:/tags/ControlPanel and if you want it to disappear from the regular 
> search results, give it a title that starts with $:/
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 6:52:16 PM UTC+10, Farayi Chambati wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have a tag like "Movie" and "movie". How do I rename one or how I merge 
>> these? My queries are now very complicated because of this. OR what do you 
>> recommend?
>>
>>
>>

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