Jed. I want to make a simple reply to your "There is nothing forcing anyone 
to do anything" ... BUT, given what YOU have done, don't shy away from that 
IF it will make it run easier.

The whole thing is not so easy to get your head around. Not for idiots like 
me. I'm noticing its moved on a lot. And hopeful the full release will make 
clear sense. I kinda get the jist but I won't try it quite yet.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 13:01:59 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I think one of the problems that we are having with twederation is that we 
> aren't making a distinction between the process of technology of fetching 
> tiddlers from remote wikis and the application I built to use and test it. 
>
> They are separate things. The fetching part is designed to be modular so 
> you can build your own handler code for communication between wikis. If 
> doesn't have to be fetching tiddlers, I am not sure what else it would be, 
> but you can have it do something different. 
>
> For the application I built on this there is just a simple 
> blogging/threaded discussion forum. One thing people keep getting wrong is 
> that none of the handlers I wrote change anything about the tiddlers. The 
> titles are made unique when the tiddler is created on the original wiki, 
>  not when it is fetched by another wiki. That is all in the application 
> side of things. What tags and other metadata are included are also all on 
> the application side. 
>
> How you handle tiddlers with the same title is entirely on the application 
> side of things and already taken care of in what I made. If someone builds 
> some other application than how they handle potential conflicts is entirely 
> up to them and should be based on the specific use case. There is nothing 
> forcing anyone to do anything, just that if you want to use the application 
> I made you either follow the conventions established or you break 
> something. And the way I have it set now the titles visible to users aren't 
> the titles used by tiddlywiki when you use what I made so duplicate post 
> titles don't cause any trouble. Posts without titles don't cause problems 
> either, they look strange when they are displayed but if you don't want a 
> title that is up to you. 
>
> The way just about any tiddler in the twederation application is displayed 
> users templates, look at any of the twcards, they have no content in the 
> text field but they have visibly displayed data using templates. You can 
> create new templates to display them without modifying any of the days Inn 
> the tiddlers themselves. I have created multiple plugins that use this idea 
> for bookmarks, a library tracker and a contacts database. 
>
>

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