[tw] Re: Using Strextext macro

[gregork4]

listreveal is very neat. I've installed it and have started playing with it 
- but I'll be careful!

Have a great weekend,
Kira

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 6:05:50 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> By the way: to show tiddlers in a better way in lists (opening list items 
> like in your example) I made the listreveal plugin you find on my plugin 
> page: http://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html – but be careful, it will change 
> soon and it is not documented yet. It might take some days/weeks until I 
> find the time … 
>
> All the best!
> Thomas
>

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[tw] Re: Using Strextext macro

[gregork4]

Awesome! Yeah, when those quotation marks are deleted it works fine.

Thanks for your help!

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 5:52:05 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Nailed it: It’s the kind of quotation marks in your tiddler(s): "
>
> When i change the quotes in the last sentence of your tiddler "Moral 
> Justification", the list looks o.k. Like this:
>
> “This is a case in which I have to do something morally wrong in order to 
> do the right thing.”
> Hope, this helps.
>

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[tw] Re: Using Strextext macro

[gregork4]

Hi Thomas,

(no problem! my email's not clear) This works! Except for that one entry, 
but thank you very much. I didn't know the id worked that way...

Kira

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 5:36:48 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Kira (sorry, I was guessing from your partially available email before)
>
> The problem is: I use the first parameter as an id. The way TiddlyWiki 
> works, in your case the id is always "{{!!text}}".
>
> I tried to circumvent this like this (but get one unexpected entry):
>
> <$list filter="[tag[233:Animal Abolitionism]]">
> <$wikify name="id" text={{!!text}}>
>
> <>
>
> 
> 
>
> Good luck!
> Thomas
>
> Am Freitag, 21. Oktober 2016 23:19:27 UTC+2 schrieb greg...@sunyit.edu:
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Thanks. I did follow the installation instructions and installed the four 
>> required tiddlers and TextStretch link.
>>
>> My goal is to list multiple related tiddlers and have their content 
>> appear as stretch text, and I’ve had success so far. However, when I click 
>> on the button to open the text of a single tiddler, all the tiddlers in the 
>> list open. I’d like for each button to be tiddler-specific.
>>
>> Here’s my code:
>> <$list filter="[tag[233:Animal Abolitionism]]"> 
>>  
>> <> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Kira
>>
>> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 4:20:27 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Greg…(?) 
>>> As the author of the strex macro I would be happy to help, but I can’t 
>>> load your wiki on my mobile. 
>>> Did you follow the installation instruction and install all required 
>>> tiddlers? Could you describe the problem you are facing? 
>>>
>>> Kind regards, 
>>> Thomas 
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Using Strextext macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

By the way: to show tiddlers in a better way in lists (opening list items 
like in your example) I made the listreveal plugin you find on my plugin 
page: http://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html – but be careful, it will change soon 
and it is not documented yet. It might take some days/weeks until I find 
the time … 

All the best!
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[tw] Re: Using Strextext macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

Nailed it: It’s the kind of quotation marks in your tiddler(s): "

When i change the quotes in the last sentence of your tiddler "Moral 
Justification", the list looks o.k. Like this:

“This is a case in which I have to do something morally wrong in order to 
do the right thing.”
Hope, this helps.

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[tw] Re: Using Strextext macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Kira (sorry, I was guessing from your partially available email before)

The problem is: I use the first parameter as an id. The way TiddlyWiki 
works, in your case the id is always "{{!!text}}".

I tried to circumvent this like this (but get one unexpected entry):

<$list filter="[tag[233:Animal Abolitionism]]">
<$wikify name="id" text={{!!text}}>

<>




Good luck!
Thomas

Am Freitag, 21. Oktober 2016 23:19:27 UTC+2 schrieb greg...@sunyit.edu:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thanks. I did follow the installation instructions and installed the four 
> required tiddlers and TextStretch link.
>
> My goal is to list multiple related tiddlers and have their content appear 
> as stretch text, and I’ve had success so far. However, when I click on the 
> button to open the text of a single tiddler, all the tiddlers in the list 
> open. I’d like for each button to be tiddler-specific.
>
> Here’s my code:
> <$list filter="[tag[233:Animal Abolitionism]]"> 
>  
> <> 
>  
> 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kira
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 4:20:27 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi Greg…(?) 
>> As the author of the strex macro I would be happy to help, but I can’t 
>> load your wiki on my mobile. 
>> Did you follow the installation instruction and install all required 
>> tiddlers? Could you describe the problem you are facing? 
>>
>> Kind regards, 
>> Thomas 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Using Strextext macro

[gregork4]

 

Hi Thomas,


Thanks. I did follow the installation instructions and installed the four 
required tiddlers and TextStretch link.


My goal is to list multiple related tiddlers and have their content appear 
as stretch text, and I’ve had success so far. However, when I click on the 
button to open the text of a single tiddler, all the tiddlers in the list 
open. I’d like for each button to be tiddler-specific.


Here’s my code:


<$list filter="[tag[233:Animal Abolitionism]]"> 
 
<> 
 




Thanks!

Kira

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>
> Hi Greg…(?) 
> As the author of the strex macro I would be happy to help, but I can’t 
> load your wiki on my mobile. 
> Did you follow the installation instruction and install all required 
> tiddlers? Could you describe the problem you are facing? 
>
> Kind regards, 
> Thomas 

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[tw] Using Strextext macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Greg…(?)
As the author of the strex macro I would be happy to help, but I can’t load 
your wiki on my mobile. 
Did you follow the installation instruction and install all required tiddlers? 
Could you describe the problem you are facing? 

Kind regards,
Thomas 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Impressions thus far (and TW on node.js on Android)

[Xavier Cazin]

Hi Timothy,

You really should try the Termux open source app : this is both a full
Linux box and a terminal, so you get node.js, git, etc... for the same
price (free).

You can then do things like serving your wikis to a browser running on the
localhost or even to browsers running on other hosts in your local network
(provided that you set the host parameter to 0.0.0.0 when running the
*--server* TW5 command). Just as they were served from a standard computer,
actually.

Cheers,

Xavier.

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Timothy Sanders  wrote:

> This is fantastic, thank you for posting it.
>
> I'm eager to set up a similar workflow for myself with tw5 and my mobile
> device and desktop computer.
>
> My needs are that I need to be able to access my wiki without the
> guarantee of an Internet connection on my mobile device, and also, I would
> really need to be able to use git to track changes between multiple
> instances of my wiki.
> I was thinking of using this:
> https://github.com/simonthum/git-sync
>
> And having a bare repo that my devices sync to, where each device has a
> unique git username. Since I'm the only one using it, it's unlikely to be
> out of sync, but if it does have a conflict, the daemon stops, and can
> signal me that I need to merge changes. I could even do it completely
> within tw5. The git-sync daemon could add its sync logs to the wiki, and
> add tiddler if it exits on failure. It could even be possible to merge
> within tw5. And I could have the most recent sync log in a .tid that is
> ignored, until after the sync succeeds or fails.
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[tw] Using Strextext macro

[gregork4]

Hi, I'm trying to use the Strex macro 
http://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#TextStretch and I'm having problems with state.

https://gregork4.github.io/Strex.html#Strex%20Example

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to fix this?

Thanks!

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Re: [tw] Suggestion: Distraction-free editing

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

OK, try creating a new tiddler and inserting this:

Tiddler: <$select tiddler="$:/state/side-edit-tiddler" tag="input">
<$list filter="[!is[system]sort[title]]">
>><$text text=<>/>



<$tiddler tiddler={{$:/state/side-edit-tiddler}}>
<$transclude tiddler="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate"/>


Then open that tiddler in a new window.

That gives you the full TW editor in a separate window. If you’d rather just 
have the main body text editor, then substitute the following the last three 
lines above:


<$edit-text tiddler={{$:/state/side-edit-tiddler}} class="tc-edit-texteditor"/>


Do beware of editing a tiddler in the side window while also editing it in the 
main window.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 21 Oct 2016, at 15:17, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion, Jeremy.
> 
> Unfortunately, when I click on "open new window", I get the rendered tiddler 
> without controls, and the floating, editable text, stays with the main wiki. 
> If the editable text were to float outside the browser, then that would be 
> pretty much on target.
> 
> Thanks!
> Mark
> 
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:28:36 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> Mat has a thing called “side editor” that is designed to present a single 
> tiddler in the sidebar for editing. There is a dropdown to choose which 
> tiddler you are editing.
> 
> You should be able to use Mat’s thing in a separate window just by navigating 
> to the corresponding tiddler and clicking “open in new window”.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
>> On 21 Oct 2016, at 03:49, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't want TW in full-screen. Unfortunately, some distraction is usually 
>> required in order to copy and paste and reference other documents. I also 
>> want more than one tiddler. All of this could happen if one could edit as 
>> well as view a tiddler opened in it's own window.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mark 
>> 
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>> May I suggest the following procedure after opening a tiddler in edit mode: 
>> 1. activate full screen mode
>> 2. hide sidebar
>> optional: 3. hide preview
>> 
>> Could there be less distraction?
>> 
>> Have fun ;–)
>> Thomas
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Re: [tw] Suggestion: Distraction-free editing

[Riz]

Along the same line, can a tiddler be opened for editing in the modal form?

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Re: [tw] Suggestion: Distraction-free editing

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks for the suggestion, Jeremy.

Unfortunately, when I click on "open new window", I get the rendered 
tiddler without controls, and the floating, editable text, stays with the 
main wiki. If the editable text were to float outside the browser, then 
that would be pretty much on target.

Thanks!
Mark

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:28:36 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Mat has a thing called “side editor” that is designed to present a single 
> tiddler in the sidebar for editing. There is a dropdown to choose which 
> tiddler you are editing.
>
> You should be able to use Mat’s thing in a separate window just by 
> navigating to the corresponding tiddler and clicking “open in new window”.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 21 Oct 2016, at 03:49, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> I don't want TW in full-screen. Unfortunately, *some *distraction is 
> usually required in order to copy and paste and reference other documents. 
> I also want more than one tiddler. All of this could happen if one could 
> edit as well as view a tiddler opened in it's own window.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> May I suggest the following procedure after opening a tiddler in edit 
>> mode: 
>> 1. activate full screen mode
>> 2. hide sidebar
>> optional: 3. hide preview
>>
>> Could there be less distraction?
>>
>> Have fun ;–)
>> Thomas
>>
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[tw] Re: An editable tiddler within an (otherwise) ReadOnly Tiddlywiki file

[John Newell]

Another alternative option to "standalone editable tiddlers" is this free 
note / journal site 
Have a look at it on your mobile - and image that embedded within a tidder 
as the editable tiddler 


https://penzu.com/p/1c0aa655

( please advise if it is not visible ) 

cheers John N


On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 8:25:05 PM UTC+11, John Newell wrote:
>
> Is this possible?
>
> A single ( or multiple ) tiddlers that can be used by the reader to take 
> notes .
> in a tiddlywiki file that has had ReadOnly applied to it ?
>
> No sidebar - just a unique tiddler* that has the edit and save ability 
> active in a normal tiddywiki.
>
> ( * or multiple tiddlers )
>
> with thanks
> John
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

[Jed Carty]

As far as security goes, as my work on federation has reminded me over and 
over again, security is nuanced. QR codes don't pose any security risk to 
anyone, the problem is that many QR code readers don't do any sort of 
sanitation and often lack basic security features. Just about all of the 
trouble from QR codes comes from naive developers assuming that nothing bad 
can come from a QR code, and users trusting them.

Please don't make the mistake of confusing the statement 'there are 
security concerns associated with using QR codes' with 'QR codes are a 
security concern'. The horror that is browser security standards is full of 
places where those two ideas have been confused and it makes developing the 
federation things for tiddlywiki very annoying when it doesn't have to be. 

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[tw] Re: An editable tiddler within an (otherwise) ReadOnly Tiddlywiki file

[John Newell]

BJ - Hi

Man, you have almost got what I need !!!
I understand it's a quick mock-up that you have created 
and I am appreciative of the effort 
( and I understand it is incomplete - 

   - I guess that the other tiddlers such as "Introduction Video" would 
   have NO editable / clickable top icons ( unlike it currently displays )
   - and that would also apply to $:/snippets/themeswitcher

For my purposes ( mainly being read on MOBILE devices - there is NO need 
for the sidebar, so other functionality would be provided similar to what 
was delivered on the Spiritual Quest eBook ( did you get a copy of that ? )

I agree that removal of the un-necessary buttons etc is probably cleaner - 
though my coming limitations keep me restricted to the ReadOnly plugin - 
which has served me well and keep time on project minimal.

I AM VERY KEEN TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE in the upcoming days!!!

Whilst a native TW solution is best -  the other options I have been 
working with are looking promising as an option
and I would be keen to hear your thoughts - 

HOWEVER : first I will propose the scenario 

*TW eBook / app * ( 

   - standalone html file - 
   - all inclusive viewable on most browsers
   - some content ( that needs to be time-relevant - eg events/ venue 
   updates - are internet-fed and delivered as embeds )

next - the product :

   - is NOT a novel - assume that it is a "*reference*" work - ( my current 
*Tourism 
   Directory* project will suffice )
   -  --- accommodation | wineries | attractions | dining | Relaxation | 
   sports | tours | breweries | retailing etc
   - This requires the use of tags and workable navigation options ( 
   WITHOUT the reader access to a sidebar )
   -  --- tags to provide LISTS of same groupings ( as above and by 
   location | other categoies : Eat | Drink | Stay | Play | etc 
   - so far - all covered really well..

NEXT - a good marketing tools needs a way for future customers to add 
notes/dates into Journals / Notepads ( as would other books that create 
ideas and challenges etc ) - and theres plenty of opportunity for the user 
/ reader / tourist to initiate interaction or bookings with listed clients.

   - Other chapters ( / tiddlers / pages ) within the *Tourism Directory* can 
   be created specifically for the Reader for Notes
   - These would likely be located at the beginning or end of each chapter 
   as reference points for their notes
   - These Notes Pages would have links to them in the Directory Listings
   - These Notes Pages should be UNIQUE, PRIVATE notes that the reader can *add 
   to - edit and delete - AND SAVE *as neccesary
   - As the primary device WILL be mobile phones the interface needs to be 
   clean - as a fresh tidder is !
   - App interaction suddenly becomes a great tool - IF IT SUITS THE USER 
   -   some will be comfortable and want to use apps ( eg evernote | 
   penzu | "pen.io" etc ) some will as the notes taken in-app can appear in 
   their TW pages !
   -  --- these would be embeds - all tested so far are editable on 
   desktop / mobile app / embed within tiddler 
   -   some will not - and an editable Tiddler woudl be the alternative.

That is likely FAR MORE info than you would like - but I am "in the groove" 
with this as it grows more attractive and desirable by the day 

Let's keep in touch 
you have my details ?
if not - connect via @magillamax on tw and I'll get my other connection 
details to you ( if you are OK with that )

Obviously most of what I learn through development of this and other TW 
instances for public consumption will be shared around..

cheers and thanks again.
JN


On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 7:10:24 PM UTC+11, BJ wrote:
>
> One of my plugins could be used for this, it allow tiddlers to have an 
> 'application type' and has methods to provide custom edit and view 
> templates for the different applications. I have put a demo here: 
> http://editablereadonly.tiddlyspot.com/
> I am modifying this at the moment so it will not be ready for release for 
> a couple of days.
>
> I would say that I am not in favor of hiding stuff with styles (like with 
> the read only theme). I prefer to remove the tags from the buttons and 
> other components that are not to be displayed. 
>
> All the best
>
> BJ
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 10:25:05 AM UTC+1, John Newell wrote:
>>
>> Is this possible?
>>
>> A single ( or multiple ) tiddlers that can be used by the reader to take 
>> notes .
>> in a tiddlywiki file that has had ReadOnly applied to it ?
>>
>> No sidebar - just a unique tiddler* that has the edit and save ability 
>> active in a normal tiddywiki.
>>
>> ( * or multiple tiddlers )
>>
>> with thanks
>> John
>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Suggestion: Distraction-free editing

[Josiah]

Ciao Mark & Jeremy

I fully agree that Mat's "Side Editor" is neat & might suit your needs. You 
need a bit of screen estate for it. Its very solid & reliable.

You can find it here: http://sideeditor.tiddlyspot.com/

Best wishes
Josiah

On Friday, 21 October 2016 11:28:36 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Mat has a thing called “side editor” that is designed to present a single 
> tiddler in the sidebar for editing. There is a dropdown to choose which 
> tiddler you are editing.
>
> You should be able to use Mat’s thing in a separate window just by 
> navigating to the corresponding tiddler and clicking “open in new window”.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 21 Oct 2016, at 03:49, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> I don't want TW in full-screen. Unfortunately, *some *distraction is 
> usually required in order to copy and paste and reference other documents. 
> I also want more than one tiddler. All of this could happen if one could 
> edit as well as view a tiddler opened in it's own window.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> May I suggest the following procedure after opening a tiddler in edit 
>> mode: 
>> 1. activate full screen mode
>> 2. hide sidebar
>> optional: 3. hide preview
>>
>> Could there be less distraction?
>>
>> Have fun ;–)
>> Thomas
>>
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Re: [tw] Suggestion: Distraction-free editing

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

Mat has a thing called “side editor” that is designed to present a single 
tiddler in the sidebar for editing. There is a dropdown to choose which tiddler 
you are editing.

You should be able to use Mat’s thing in a separate window just by navigating 
to the corresponding tiddler and clicking “open in new window”.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 21 Oct 2016, at 03:49, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't want TW in full-screen. Unfortunately, some distraction is usually 
> required in order to copy and paste and reference other documents. I also 
> want more than one tiddler. All of this could happen if one could edit as 
> well as view a tiddler opened in it's own window.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark 
> 
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> May I suggest the following procedure after opening a tiddler in edit mode: 
> 1. activate full screen mode
> 2. hide sidebar
> optional: 3. hide preview
> 
> Could there be less distraction?
> 
> Have fun ;–)
> Thomas
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Josiah]

Ciao Jeremy, Thomas & Mark H.

Just a general comment.

Since TW is one file running in a BROWSER it makes sense to HONE usage to 
match what you need do most often. In my use of TW I switch OFF as much as 
possible

PART of the issue is the sheer INEFFICIENCY of major browsers at memory 
handling. TBH browsers (Firefox, Chrome) cause me more hassle than most 
anything else on my computer now. Their memory architecture is pathetic.

There is a lesson in that, because TW can only function as well as its 
host. What is my point? That some issues in TW are nothing directly to do 
with it, but essentially current browser limits.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Friday, 21 October 2016 09:36:39 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas 
>
> > So one could set a lower limit to speed things up? (And maybe add a 
> more… link) 
>
> Yes. But you’d probably get more of an improvement from replacing the 
> current “Recent” tab with a variant that showed a plain list of titles and 
> dates, rather than grouping the tiddlers by day, which is an expensive 
> operation. 
>
> I’ve answered the questions here directly, but I’m concerned that a narrow 
> answer can be misleading. 
>
> Software developers are taught that premature optimisation is evil; 
> instead, we’re taught to measure, measure and measure again, and make sure 
> that any changes have the expected impact. 
>
> So a useful conclusion to be drawn from this thread is not that everyone 
> should go and re-engineer their “Recent” tab, but rather this: if there is 
> a noticeable pause when switching to the “Recent” tab then your wiki 
> probably qualifies as a “big wiki” (or your browser qualifies as a slow 
> browser :). 
>
> In that situation, the first thing I would do is think about how I use the 
> wiki, and just avoid the operations that are time consuming. Only as an 
> absolute last resort would I start to customise the wiki, and I would do so 
> with stopwatch in hand to ensure that my efforts were directed in the most 
> effective way. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy 
>
>
> > 
> > Kind regards 
> > Thomas 
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[tw] Re: How to count two parameters in count widget?

[Jed Carty]

It is probably easier to use 

[all[]]-[tag[xx]tagging[]][tag[xx]]



as the inverse of the filter you had before.

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[tw] Re: How to count two parameters in count widget?

[HC Haase]

Thanks, that did it!

However that gave me some new trouble. I Also want to do the opposite 
count. So I figured I could do it with a the negative prefix !, like

<$count filter="[!is[system]!tag[xx]!tag[xx]tagging[]]"/>

(I want a count of tiddlers that is not system, not taged xx or tagged with 
a tiddler that is taged with xx)

But it gives me a wrong/unexpected result. it count around 30 tiddlers to 
much (ap 6% in my case). 


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[tw] Re: An editable tiddler within an (otherwise) ReadOnly Tiddlywiki file

[BJ]

One of my plugins could be used for this, it allow tiddlers to have an 
'application type' and has methods to provide custom edit and view 
templates for the different applications. I have put a demo here: 
http://editablereadonly.tiddlyspot.com/
I am modifying this at the moment so it will not be ready for release for a 
couple of days.

I would say that I am not in favor of hiding stuff with styles (like with 
the read only theme). I prefer to remove the tags from the buttons and 
other components that are not to be displayed. 

All the best

BJ

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>
> Is this possible?
>
> A single ( or multiple ) tiddlers that can be used by the reader to take 
> notes .
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>
> No sidebar - just a unique tiddler* that has the edit and save ability 
> active in a normal tiddywiki.
>
> ( * or multiple tiddlers )
>
> with thanks
> John
>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Jonathan

> Not to be a wet blanket but …

Not at all, it’s a good discussion to have.

> > Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t 
> > too long/complicated to fit.
> 
> And that, of course, leads to the downsides of QR codes, e.g., 
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Qrljacking - the misuse of QR Codes to do not 
> so nice things.

Most of that article is about a specific usage of QR codes to contain login 
credentials for an online service.

But really all the risks that are discussed are the risks associated with links 
to malware. The problem is trusting hyperlinks, and it doesn’t matter whether 
those links are distributed via email, a website, a QR code, Bluetooth, or some 
other means.

In the particular case of QR codes, the biggest risks are associated with 
reader software that automatically navigates to URLs; that’s as bad as an email 
app that renders untrusted HTML content.

> It seems to me that folks who use them on TW sites that allow federated 
> content are going to be implicitly trusting every other person with write 
> access to that federated content.

A critical point to grasp about federation is that there is no requirement for 
shared access to a common server. Every participant publishes on their own 
server, and the client software retrieves the distributed fragments of a 
discussion, and threads them together for reading.

> Even static TW's on public sites are going to have the same implications. It 
> does not seem that there is anything keeping from me putting a QR Code in a 
> tiddler claiming to be my contact info but instead sending the unsuspecting 
> user to a phishing web site first, or a Rick Roll. Or it might not be me but 
> someone who simply has obtained my login information to that publicly 
> accessible content. Maybe using Qrljacking.

As noted above, this is no different than the risks of clicking on an ordinary 
HTML hyperlink.

> The TW community seems to be a very helpful one. But with its popularity and 
> capabilities increasing I am not sure that will remain universally true 
> indefinitely. A google of 'qr code vulnerabilities' mentions might give you 
> pause.

I did google that phrase, and think the results are actually pretty misleading. 
Security is a complex business, and these articles evoke the overly simple idea 
that QR codes have intrinsic vulnerabilities.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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> 
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 9:01:16 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> There’s been a rash of updates to v5.1.14 in the last 10 days, making it a 
> good time to have a look at the prerelease at 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
> 
> I’d like to highlight the new QR code generator plugin (installed in the 
> prerelease so that you can try it out easily). I had little idea about QR 
> codes before the recent correspondence here on the mailing list, but am now a 
> convert. If you don’t have a QR code reader on your smartphone I’d highly 
> recommend installing one to play with the prerelease.
> 
> Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t too 
> long/complicated to fit. There are conventions for passing URLs, contact 
> information, wifi details etc., but there is complete freedom; one can make a 
> QR code of JSON if you want (actually a bad idea as the special characters 
> appear to compress badly).
> 
> The QR code plugin adds a generic macro for generating a QR code from a 
> string, and also adds a couple of pre-built ways to use it:
> 
> * A new view toolbar button that displays the current tiddler as a QR code. 
> You can choose from the URL of the tiddler, the raw text, or the rendered text
> * Example forms for generating QR codes for contacts, wifi and generic codes
> 
> Once I’d found the library, getting the plugin up and running was 
> surprisingly easy — I had the first operational version within 30 minutes of 
> starting work. A good illustration of the excellent returns on the effort 
> involved in integrating existing JavaScript components.
> 
> There’s a full list of changes in the release note, but I’d highlight the 
> following bigger changes:
> 
> * Extended search mechanism to require the search string to be a minimum 
> length
> * New Hebrew translation, and preliminary support for RTL languages
> * Improved access to plugin information:
> ** New “Plugins” tab in the “More” sidebar tab, listing all installed plugins
> ** Better display of plugin tiddlers themselves, duplicating the gadget used 
> in control panel
> * Fixed height of preview pane to use a scrollbar when fixed height layout is 
> selected
> * Improved modals and notifications so that global macros are available
> * Extended the SetWidget to allow a single result to be selected from a 
> filtered result list
> * Added new $:/info/url/* information tiddlers providing document location 
> information
> * Added several new filter operators for string 

Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Thomas

> So one could set a lower limit to speed things up? (And maybe add a more… 
> link)

Yes. But you’d probably get more of an improvement from replacing the current 
“Recent” tab with a variant that showed a plain list of titles and dates, 
rather than grouping the tiddlers by day, which is an expensive operation.

I’ve answered the questions here directly, but I’m concerned that a narrow 
answer can be misleading.

Software developers are taught that premature optimisation is evil; instead, 
we’re taught to measure, measure and measure again, and make sure that any 
changes have the expected impact.

So a useful conclusion to be drawn from this thread is not that everyone should 
go and re-engineer their “Recent” tab, but rather this: if there is a 
noticeable pause when switching to the “Recent” tab then your wiki probably 
qualifies as a “big wiki” (or your browser qualifies as a slow browser :).

In that situation, the first thing I would do is think about how I use the 
wiki, and just avoid the operations that are time consuming. Only as an 
absolute last resort would I start to customise the wiki, and I would do so 
with stopwatch in hand to ensure that my efforts were directed in the most 
effective way.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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[tw] Re: An editable tiddler within an (otherwise) ReadOnly Tiddlywiki file

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi everyone!

My (very simple) approach would be to integrate a tool like 
https://grosinger.net/tw5-checklist/ and a save-button into one ore 
multiple tiddlers. 

   - Maybe hide the checkbox using CSS.
   - Of course style the rest for multi-line entries. 
   - Maybe put everyting in a notes section that can be shown or hidden 
   using a button.

This way the text ist stored in the text-field of the tiddler where it is 
searchable.

The main difficulty I see is saving – not every reader would be enjoying 
the comfort of TiddlyFox.

Good luck! 
Thomas

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Jeremy

So one could set a lower limit to speed things up? (And maybe add a more… link)

Kind regards 
Thomas 

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