[tw] Re: Tiddlydrive not working on Android

[James A Bernard]

I store and access (on my android device) my tidlywikis in the local 
dropbox folder. Auto syncing with the cloud once I save. Does this help 
with your shared location?

I also use Waterfox with the tiddlyfox plugin

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[tw] Re: Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts?

[TonyM]

I could imagine a need to escape the the Great White North

Personally, there is a few weeks in the middle of summer I would like see 
snow instead, when its 42c 108F as an example.

I have accommodation in Sydney, and 100acres/ 40 hectares in "the bush" 
with a shack, kangaroos and wombats so do not hesitate to ask if you are 
thinking of visiting.

However I am heading to Europe in February. France, Portugal possibly Italy 
and England. 

Regards
Tony 


On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 1:23:42 AM UTC+11, Lost Admin wrote:
>
> I've wanted to visit Australia for some time. Especially now that you are 
> having summer and we are having winter up here in the Great White North.
>
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 12:48:17 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Bump,
>>
>> I am sure there is more than me and Iain in Sydney. Let your friends 
>> know. 
>>
>> If not, Well time to recruit I say.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tony
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 10:18:25 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Calling any Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts!
>>>
>>> I feel like a meetup, since re-newing my vows with tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> If there is any interest I will set up a meeting, most likely using 
>>> eventbright.
>>>
>>> Leave suggestions here as well, as to times; locations, and venues, I 
>>> have a low cost venue in "Broadway/Glebe" (Sydney) and Randwick, then there 
>>> is always a pub or cafe.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Tiddlydrive not working on Android

[TonyM]

Alan,

I spent some time 6 months ago building my access to tiddlywiki on android. 
In the end I got the most satisfaction from installing termux and 
installing node JS because that makes tiddlywiki not only browser 
independent (on android) but also device independent, ie I can access the 
android wiki on the LAN from my desktop.

I have not yet managed to make it autoload on phone reboot, but that will 
be a matter of focus.

The above solution of course does not maintain the wiki in a shared 
location, but it does in someway's allow access from multiple locations.

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 4:13:35 AM UTC+11, AlanBCohen wrote:
>
> The basic problem is that you have no way of installing tiddlydrive or any 
> other extensions on Google Drive from Android. The Android Chome browser 
> version does not allow you to install any extensions.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Solution to generate a tree of parent tiddlers?

[TonyM]

Birthe,

I suppose what I am saying is to keep the tagging facility always 
available. If a tiddler is marked in anyway including an existing  tag, 
existence of a field, tiddler types or a prefix or suffix in the title, it 
is possible to include or exclude something in the view or edit template, 
allowing you to avoid a tag for this puropse. I am looking at ways to use 
additional fields to store keywords and other "tags" because this leaves 
the regular tags free to for ad hoc needs or additional hierarchies. Such 
dedicated keyword sets allows a more targeted search.

Inspired by Arkadys Parent/child macro I actually had trouble sleeping last 
night (Sydney time) thinking about sophisticated navigation of alternate 
hierarchies, yes I do have a life, and it includes intellectual pursuits. 
This has being an obsession of mine for many years because I have a concept 
for an algorithm which I can bring to life in tiddlywiki.

Good stuff
Tony

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 1:02:02 AM UTC+11, Birthe C wrote:
>
> I would love to see a working example of this not ruling out tags. Love 
> your footer idea, Tony, thanks!
>
> Birthe
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyDesktop

[Eric Weir]

Thanks, Alfonso. My apologies for the late response. As I said, I don't 
make that active use of TiddlyWiki anymore. Just don't want to lose it. 
It's possible that resolving this issue will get me more active again.

I'm checking out your suggestion as well as the others. A question about 
yours: Is it necessary to install Portable Firefox on a portable drive, a 
USB drive? Can I install it to my applications folder like regular Firefox?

Thanks again,

Eric

On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 2:52:04 PM UTC-5, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> For everyone that still use TWC, I recommend do not use TiddlyDesktop (any 
> version).
>
> I use TWC daily due to a couple of TW's that cannot be converted to TW5 
> TW's due to the extensive use of customization and plugins and large amount 
> of data.
>
> The best solution to me is to have a portable version of an old version of 
> FF for exclusive use of these TWC TW's. This version is very small, super 
> fast, does not messes with other programs or options, and may run out of an 
> USB. The only caveats are that it cannot be run with another FF version at 
> the same time, and cannot open TW5 TW's.
>
> Download the FF portable, almost any language you want, from:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Edition%203.6.28/
>
> You may also want to visit:
> https://portableapps.com
>
> Alfonso
>

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[tw] Re: Is it possible to create a list of tiddlers to transclude in a data dictionary?

[leeand00]

Josh, thank you!  That's very clean and very clear.

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 15:21:21 UTC-5, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> Create 3 tiddlers, Test1, Test2, Test3. Put some text into their text 
> field. Here are the other tiddlers to make the TempaltedList work:
>
> title: DataTiddler
> type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary
>
> 0:Test0
> 1:Test1
> 2:Test2
>
> title: ListTemplate
>
> <$transclude field="title" 
> />:<$edit-text tag="textarea" field="text" 
> />
>
> title: TemplatedList
> datasource: DataTiddler
>
> <$set name="source" value={{!!datasource}} >
> <$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">
> <$list filter="[getindex]" variable="currentTiddler" 
> template="ListTemplate" />
> 
> 
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Unable to save

[Eric Weir]

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 3:23 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ha! This has been just about all we've talked about for the last 2 weeks. ;-)
> 
> The 2 choices closest to what you had before:
>   • BJ's save extension: https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers
>   • Mario's save extension: 
> https://github.com/pmario/file-backups/releases

Thanks, Mark. As It’s not urgent that I get this issue resolved, I’ll be taking 
my time in going about at. As I’ve been away from TW a good while, except for 
adding or changing an occasional tiddler, I’ll have to defamiliarize myself 
with the way the relevant things are done. But I will be checking out the 
options you suggest.

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[tw] Re: Is it possible to create a list of tiddlers to transclude in a data dictionary?

[Joshua Fontany]

Create 3 tiddlers, Test1, Test2, Test3. Put some text into their text 
field. Here are the other tiddlers to make the TempaltedList work:

title: DataTiddler
type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary

0:Test0
1:Test1
2:Test2

title: ListTemplate

<$transclude field="title" 
/>:<$edit-text tag="textarea" field="text" 
/>

title: TemplatedList
datasource: DataTiddler

<$set name="source" value={{!!datasource}} >
<$list filter="[indexes[]]" variable="index">
<$list filter="[getindex]" variable="currentTiddler" 
template="ListTemplate" />




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[tw] Re: Any Demand for Sheepy Markup?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Well, Ste, I might develop a Bleta.

Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> Doesn't sound like a baaad idea. What are ewe thinking? Remember it can't 
> be too woolly. 

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[tw] Any Demand for Sheepy Markup?

[Ste Wilson]

Doesn't sound like a baaad idea. What are ewe thinking? Remember it can't be 
too woolly. 

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[tw] Re: how to open file in desktop TW from terminal and open another file *from* desktop TW

[Dave]

Thank you.

Any suggestion on where to find that info on how to do the IP address 
version of tiddlydesktop?  I just searched here for "tiddlydesktop IP 
address" and didn't find anything obviously useful.

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 7:09:23 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> 1st I am on Windows but I think this may still apply to you.
>
> I wanted to get the same answer as you, One question I have for you is why 
> you want to do it? (what is the real problem) The reason I ask is I am 
> happy links from my TiddlyDesktop [TWC] to my other wikis opening in 
> FireFox (my Default Browser and most others and versions)  because those 
> links are to wikis served using TiddlyServer. eg; 
> http://192.168.1.109:8088/Local-Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html and of course 
> this makes them saveable etc... (Note the use of a port number in the 
> address, and the IP address is my desktop on the LAN). But that is me.
>
> But for you
>
> I understand you may not want to implement TiddlyServer, but interestingly 
> I know TiddlyDesktop uses the same underlying technology (Node.JS 
> "runtime") and I did read there is a way to access wikis in TiddlyDesktop 
> via the host (my desktop computer) IP Address as is the case for 
> TiddlyServer. In this case the Wikis will open for edit in your browser if 
> not TiddlyDesktop. your links to your other wikis can become what I call 
> Intranet addresses, rather than file addresses. The key thing is 
> TiddlyDesktop may host and open one or more tiddlywikis but they can be 
> accessed via an Intranet link in your browser because TiddlyDesktop can 
> also Server them (untested).
>  
>
> I have not used this IP address access feature of TiddlyDesktop yet so I 
> am not sure how mature it is, but thought it worth telling you about.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 6:16:28 AM UTC+11, Dave wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to open a TW file within tiddlywiki desktop from the linux 
>> command line? I tried ./nw (file path) with and without the "file://: part, 
>> but no luck
>>
>> Also, is there a way to link to another TW file from within the TW in 
>> desktop and have it open also in TW desktop?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Is it possible to create a list of tiddlers to transclude in a data dictionary?

[PMario]

Hi Andrew, 

It's really hard to imagine a functionality, that you want to have, from 
your description, and code, that does not do what you want. ... 

So it would be nice to get a minimal testcase, that also includes a data 
tiddler. So we don't need to guess and invest time to find out how it may 
look like, reverse engineering the code. ... 

I may have created something similar some time ago, for a video HowTo series 
. There 
is a bundle, that you can download and play with. ... The functionality, 
that may be interesting for you is described in video 12 and 13 that deals 
with a data dictionary. 

video 12 is ~5min long, and describes the functionality. ... So if this is 
interesting for you, you can have a closer look at vid13.
video 13 is 15min and describes the code in detail. 

have fun!
mario


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[tw] Re: Is it possible to create a list of tiddlers to transclude in a data dictionary?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This seemed to work for me, but maybe I don't understand what you want. It 
makes a list of tiddlers listed in the data dictionary.

Make sure you have your field name spelled correctly ;-)

Good luck,
Mark

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 6:13:42 AM UTC-8, leeand00 wrote:
>
> Is it possible to list tiddler titles in a data dictionary tiddler, and 
> then transclude just those tiddlers (using a template) somewhere else?   
> And if so, how would one go about that?
>
> Here is as close as I've gotten with a tiddler named QualificationsSummary:
>
> \define linkup(link,idx) 
> <$view index="$idx$" />
><$text text="$idx$" />
> 
> \end
>
> \define what()
>
><$list filter="[suffix[$(thefilter)$]]">
>   <$link>Qualifications Summary
>   <$list filter="[indexes[]nsort[]]" variable=
> "thisIndex">
>   <$macrocall $name="linkup" link=<> idx=<<
> thisIndex>>/>
>   
>
> \end
>
> <$set name="thefilter" value={{!!tiddlerforqualificationssummary}}>
> <>
> 
>
> field: tiddlerforqualificationssummary: 
>
> And then it's placed in another tiddler: 
>
> {{||QualificationsSummary}}
>
> (with the field
> "tiddlerforqualificationssummary" containing the title of the dictionary 
> tiddler)
>
> But this doesn't transclude a list of tiddlers from the dictionary using a 
> template, which is what I would prefer.
>
> Thank you,
>Andrew J. Leer
>

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[tw] Re: width 100% tables?

[PMario]

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:57:41 PM UTC+1, leeand00 wrote:
>
> .dasHead {
>width: 100% ! important;
>
>
! important is toxic. It shoud be avoided at almost all cost !!

just use: 

.dasHead {
  min-width: 100%; 
}

and you should be good!

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: width 100% tables?

[leeand00]

Thanks Eric!  That was it!


On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 08:57:41 UTC-5, leeand00 wrote:
>
> How can I get my tables to be 100% width?  I tried the following and it 
> didn't work:
>
> Per the documentation, created a tiddler named "$:/tags/Stylesheet" with 
> a type of "text/css" the following content:
>
>
>
> html body.tc-body {
> background: red;
> }
> .dasHead {
>width: 100% ! important;
>text-align: center;
> }
>
>
>
> And a table in my wiki like the following:
>
>
> |dasHead |k
> |>| ''Andrew J. Leer'' |>|
>
>
> But it doesn't resize to 100% of the width (Firefox 57)
>
>
> Everything seems correct to me, is there anything I missed?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Andrew J. Leer
>

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[tw] Tiddlydrive not working on Android

[AlanBCohen]

The basic problem is that you have no way of installing tiddlydrive or any 
other extensions on Google Drive from Android. The Android Chome browser 
version does not allow you to install any extensions.

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[tw] Any Demand for Sheepy Markup?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Markup is powerful.

Its shorthand.

For instance the code *:shL:* could invoke a large SVG sheep and *:shBL: *a 
CSS bouncing lamb.

The brilliance of markup in TW is it does NOT need to produce just a 
passive set of characters that get HTMLified. It could be used to 
DYNAMICALLY INVOKE possession of our own medium.

Best wishes
Josiah


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Solution to generate a tree of parent tiddlers?

[Arkady Grudzinsky]

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:00 AM, TonyM  wrote:


> Personally I would to anything not to rule out other tags, they can be so
> useful, if there is any thing that identifies a tiddler as a person, even
> one of a set like father mother that you can use so your solution is more
> robust is recommended.
>
> Since all but home is a person at the moment you could tag all STANDARD
> tiddlers "person" (automated) and remove that from Home. And update your
> new here/new tiddler to add the person tag for future ones.
>
Since the vast majority of my tiddlers are intended to be “person
tiddlers”, it’s easier to have a special mark for “non-person” tiddlers.
Also, tags are visible in regular views, and this attribute which serves
the purpose of changing the tiddler template, does not need to be exposed
to the viewer. So, in my case, I may add a “not-a-person” property to the
tiddler, set it to “1” for the few “non-person” tiddlers and add
-[has[not-a-person]] to those template filters.

You are right, I *may* use non-person tiddlers in the future for photos,
documents, or places. Those can be identified by the tiddler type or a
“place” tag. I’ll deal with them when I decide to add them. I just don’t
want to over-complicate this.

I recently created a Footer that goes in the View Template (and A Status
> Bar), A technique I used was to replicate what is found in the
> Viewtemplates use of Tags as well.
>
> A Tiddler called $:/PSaT/macros/customfooter 
> 
>tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate containing;
>
>
> ​
> <$list 
> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplatefooter]!has[draft.of]]" 
> variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>
> ​
>
>
> Then my additional footer macros are simply tagged $:/tags/
> ViewTemplatefooter
>
> I can now add as many additions to the footer as I want with a simple tag.
> I actually place buttons at the top and lists at the bottom of the footer,
> using draggable ordering.
>
> This means I do not modify any system tiddlers like
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body
>
> Perhaps these are useful?
>
Yes, this is very useful. I think, I’ll use your advice. Thanks.
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[tw] Re: Upgrading to TW5.1.15 -> Two themes missing

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Ed,

> do I understand correctly that upgrading means that one upgrades to an 
empty.html?

No, in case you upgrade, the core - and all *installed* core plugins/themes 
- are upgraded.

The *Tight* and *Tight & Heavier* themes were *not* in your TW before you 
upgraded. But you can add them manually.

Note: The Tight theme was introduced with v5.1.10 and the Tight & heavier 
theme was introduced with v5.1.14.

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw] Re: width 100% tables?

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 5:57:41 AM UTC-8, leeand00 wrote:
>
> How can I get my tables to be 100% width?  I tried the following and it 
> didn't work:
>
> Per the documentation, created a tiddler named "$:/tags/Stylesheet" with 
> a type of "text/css" the following content:
>
 

Create a tiddler named *anything you like*, and then add a *tag* of 
$:/tags/Stylesheet to that tiddler.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas" (tm)
InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals

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[tw] Re: Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts?

[Lost Admin]

I've wanted to visit Australia for some time. Especially now that you are 
having summer and we are having winter up here in the Great White North.

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 12:48:17 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Bump,
>
> I am sure there is more than me and Iain in Sydney. Let your friends know. 
>
> If not, Well time to recruit I say.
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 10:18:25 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Calling any Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts!
>>
>> I feel like a meetup, since re-newing my vows with tiddlywiki.
>>
>> If there is any interest I will set up a meeting, most likely using 
>> eventbright.
>>
>> Leave suggestions here as well, as to times; locations, and venues, I 
>> have a low cost venue in "Broadway/Glebe" (Sydney) and Randwick, then there 
>> is always a pub or cafe.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw] Is it possible to create a list of tiddlers to transclude in a data dictionary?

[leeand00]

Is it possible to list tiddler titles in a data dictionary tiddler, and 
then transclude just those tiddlers (using a template) somewhere else?   
And if so, how would one go about that?

Here is as close as I've gotten with a tiddler named QualificationsSummary:

\define linkup(link,idx) 
<$view index="$idx$" />
   <$text text="$idx$" />

\end

\define what()

   <$list filter="[suffix[$(thefilter)$]]">
  <$link>Qualifications Summary
  <$list filter="[indexes[]nsort[]]" variable=
"thisIndex">
  <$macrocall $name="linkup" link=<> idx=<>/>
  
   
\end

<$set name="thefilter" value={{!!tiddlerforqualificationssummary}}>
<>


field: tiddlerforqualificationssummary: 

And then it's placed in another tiddler: 

{{||QualificationsSummary}}

(with the field
"tiddlerforqualificationssummary" containing the title of the dictionary 
tiddler)

But this doesn't transclude a list of tiddlers from the dictionary using a 
template, which is what I would prefer.

Thank you,
   Andrew J. Leer

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Solution to generate a tree of parent tiddlers?

[Birthe C]

I would love to see a working example of this not ruling out tags. Love 
your footer idea, Tony, thanks!

Birthe


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[tw] width 100% tables?

[leeand00]

How can I get my tables to be 100% width?  I tried the following and it 
didn't work:

Per the documentation, created a tiddler named "$:/tags/Stylesheet" with a 
type of "text/css" the following content:



html body.tc-body {
background: red;
}
.dasHead {
   width: 100% ! important;
   text-align: center;
}



And a table in my wiki like the following:


|dasHead |k
|>| ''Andrew J. Leer'' |>|


But it doesn't resize to 100% of the width (Firefox 57)


Everything seems correct to me, is there anything I missed?

Thank you,

Andrew J. Leer

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[tw] Re: Upgrading to TW5.1.15 -> Two themes missing

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Ed,

Tiddlywiki.com contains all 9 core themes:


   1. Basic theme
   2. Centralises the story river
   3. Emphasises individual tiddlers
   4. Example alternative theme
   5. Heavier font theme
   6. Hides the ability to edit tiddlers
   7. Removes borders from tiddlers
   8. Tight and Heavier font theme
   9. Tightly packed theme


If you download an 'empty.html' it contains only 2 themes:


   - Basic theme (Vanilla)
   - Emphasises individual tiddlers (SnowWhite)


You can add themes by going to Control panel > Plugins. Click the button 
'Get more plugins' and thereafter 'Open plugin library'.
There you can install the thems you want.

Cheers,

Ton


> these are not not included in my upgrades that are done in the usual way, 
> by just shoving
> the files into the upgrade area of TiddlyWiki.com.
>
> Makes me think: Am I missing something else perhaps also?
>
> Salut! Ed.
>

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Re: [tw] [Node.js] Unable to update past 5.1.13

[William RENOU]

I created a new TW and progressively copied my tiddlers over to it, first 
installing the same plugins I had then moving standard tiddlers, macro / 
template tiddlers and checking each time if it broke it. Since it still 
worked fine I used your method (because I really don't like fixing 
something and not understanding how I did it), plugin to blame was a 
language plugin. I had forgotten about this one & feel kind of dumb not to 
have checked this one.

Le mercredi 22 novembre 2017 10:27:48 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
> Hi William
>
> The first error looks as though TiddlyWiki is trying to use the PUT saver 
> to save changes. That suggests that maybe you have not got the required 
> tiddlyweb plugin loaded. The plugins you’re using should be entered into 
> the tiddlywiki.info file for your wiki:
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library
>
> The second error looks like maybe you’ve got a 5.1.13 plugin loaded as a 
> literal tiddler. It won’t get updated when you upgrade because it’s a 
> literal tiddler rather than a reference in the tiddlywiki.info file.
>
> If the system will let you, you can use the $:/AdvancedSearch “Filter" tag 
> to help track this down:
>
> First, the following filter expression will list all of the different 
> values for the “version” field of the loaded plugins:
>
> [all[tiddlers]each[version]get[version]]
>
> If you see “5.1.13” listed then you can identify the specific rogue plugin 
> with the following expression that lists all of the plugins with the 
> “version” field set to 5.1.13:
>
> [all[tiddlers]version[5.1.13]]
>
> If none of that helps then I think you might be best starting with a new 
> wiki and progressively bringing your content over until you can see what 
> breaks.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 22 Nov 2017, at 03:24, William RENOU  
> wrote:
>
> Hello. 
> I was running on 5.1.13 and decided to upgrade my server to 5.1.15 after 
> testing it for a bit. Unfortunately since the upgrade it has become mostly 
> unusable. I can open my TW fine but when used, most functions return a 
> javascript error. Even only opening the TW yield errors. 
>
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 
> OPTIONS http://host/path/ 404 (Not Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:28
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
>
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 HEAD http://host/path/ 404 (Not 
> Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:39
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
>
> I first thought plugins were to blame so I disabled them, no effect. I 
> then downgraded to .14 and again to .13 since .14 was showing the exact 
> same symptoms. Returning to .13 showed my TW back to functionnal status.
> As a test I tried to create a new TW under .15 and it is working fine, 
> meaning my issue was a configuration issue on my TW folders. The error 
> typically triggers when I open the Recent Sidebar tab.
> Most errors I get during use are like this one :
> (index):24287 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'day' of undefined
> $tw.utils.error @ (index):24287
> window.onerror @ (index):24314
> setTimeout (async)
> exports.nextTick @ $:/core/modules/utils/utils.js:584
> exports.enqueueTiddlerEvent @ $:/core/modules/wiki.js:152
> deleteTiddler @ (index):25065
> Popup.cancel @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/popup.js:144
> Popup.handleEvent @ 

Re: [tw] Re: link in a documentation macro doesn't show up as a reference

[Alex Hough]

Josiah,

I am creating a thread on Twitter [1].
I'd like to "weave" a TiddlyZine into this thread.

I think a twitter thread is an interesting form. Small chunks of
information linked together.
A TiddlyZine can cut and paste from Twitter and then be inserted back into
the narrative.

Alex

[1] https://twitter.com/100CreweRoad/status/932523076264316928



On 21 November 2017 at 19:03, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> I'm ready.
>
> Dimmi (tell me) what I need to do.
>
> J.
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Re: [tw] [Node.js] Unable to update past 5.1.13

[Arlen Beiler]

The first error is probably resulting a rogue plugin as well, since the put
saver always makes that options request to check if it is able to work. The
request does look a little funny, but I still think it is a rogue plugin
being stored as a tiddler. You can try deleting all the system tiddlers in
the actual tiddlers folder in the data folder to see if that fixes it then
add them back in until you find the problem tiddler. It will probably start
with either $__core or $__plugins, so add your other ones first in a lump
if you want and then add the "$__plugin" files one by one. If there is a
file named $__core.tid or something like that and is over a MB, don't add
it as it is definitely a problem.

Hope that helps.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi William
>
> The first error looks as though TiddlyWiki is trying to use the PUT saver
> to save changes. That suggests that maybe you have not got the required
> tiddlyweb plugin loaded. The plugins you’re using should be entered into
> the tiddlywiki.info file for your wiki:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%
> 20library
>
> The second error looks like maybe you’ve got a 5.1.13 plugin loaded as a
> literal tiddler. It won’t get updated when you upgrade because it’s a
> literal tiddler rather than a reference in the tiddlywiki.info file.
>
> If the system will let you, you can use the $:/AdvancedSearch “Filter" tag
> to help track this down:
>
> First, the following filter expression will list all of the different
> values for the “version” field of the loaded plugins:
>
> [all[tiddlers]each[version]get[version]]
>
> If you see “5.1.13” listed then you can identify the specific rogue plugin
> with the following expression that lists all of the plugins with the
> “version” field set to 5.1.13:
>
> [all[tiddlers]version[5.1.13]]
>
> If none of that helps then I think you might be best starting with a new
> wiki and progressively bringing your content over until you can see what
> breaks.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 22 Nov 2017, at 03:24, William RENOU  wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I was running on 5.1.13 and decided to upgrade my server to 5.1.15 after
> testing it for a bit. Unfortunately since the upgrade it has become mostly
> unusable. I can open my TW fine but when used, most functions return a
> javascript error. Even only opening the TW yield errors.
>
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
> OPTIONS http://host/path/ 404 (Not Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:28
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
>
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 HEAD http://host/path/ 404 (Not
> Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:39
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
>
> I first thought plugins were to blame so I disabled them, no effect. I
> then downgraded to .14 and again to .13 since .14 was showing the exact
> same symptoms. Returning to .13 showed my TW back to functionnal status.
> As a test I tried to create a new TW under .15 and it is working fine,
> meaning my issue was a configuration issue on my TW folders. The error
> typically triggers when I open the Recent Sidebar tab.
> Most errors I get during use are like this one :
> (index):24287 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'day' of undefined
> $tw.utils.error @ (index):24287
> window.onerror @ (index):24314
> setTimeout (async)
> 

Re: [tw] [Node.js] Unable to update past 5.1.13

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi William

The first error looks as though TiddlyWiki is trying to use the PUT saver to 
save changes. That suggests that maybe you have not got the required tiddlyweb 
plugin loaded. The plugins you’re using should be entered into the 
tiddlywiki.info file for your wiki:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library

The second error looks like maybe you’ve got a 5.1.13 plugin loaded as a 
literal tiddler. It won’t get updated when you upgrade because it’s a literal 
tiddler rather than a reference in the tiddlywiki.info file.

If the system will let you, you can use the $:/AdvancedSearch “Filter" tag to 
help track this down:

First, the following filter expression will list all of the different values 
for the “version” field of the loaded plugins:

[all[tiddlers]each[version]get[version]]

If you see “5.1.13” listed then you can identify the specific rogue plugin with 
the following expression that lists all of the plugins with the “version” field 
set to 5.1.13:

[all[tiddlers]version[5.1.13]]

If none of that helps then I think you might be best starting with a new wiki 
and progressively bringing your content over until you can see what breaks.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 22 Nov 2017, at 03:24, William RENOU  wrote:
> 
> Hello. 
> I was running on 5.1.13 and decided to upgrade my server to 5.1.15 after 
> testing it for a bit. Unfortunately since the upgrade it has become mostly 
> unusable. I can open my TW fine but when used, most functions return a 
> javascript error. Even only opening the TW yield errors. 
> 
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 
> OPTIONS http://host/path/ 404 (Not Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:28
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
> 
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 HEAD http://host/path/ 404 (Not Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:39
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
> 
> I first thought plugins were to blame so I disabled them, no effect. I then 
> downgraded to .14 and again to .13 since .14 was showing the exact same 
> symptoms. Returning to .13 showed my TW back to functionnal status.
> As a test I tried to create a new TW under .15 and it is working fine, 
> meaning my issue was a configuration issue on my TW folders. The error 
> typically triggers when I open the Recent Sidebar tab.
> Most errors I get during use are like this one :
> (index):24287 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'day' of undefined
> $tw.utils.error @ (index):24287
> window.onerror @ (index):24314
> setTimeout (async)
> exports.nextTick @ $:/core/modules/utils/utils.js:584
> exports.enqueueTiddlerEvent @ $:/core/modules/wiki.js:152
> deleteTiddler @ (index):25065
> Popup.cancel @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/popup.js:144
> Popup.handleEvent @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/popup.js:69
> $:/core/modules/tiddler.js:138 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'day' 
> of undefined
> at $tw.Tiddler.exports.getFieldDay ($:/core/modules/tiddler.js:138)
> at eval ($:/core/modules/filters/sameday.js:26)
> at each ((index):25093)
> at exports.sameday ($:/core/modules/filters/sameday.js:24)
> at eval ($:/core/modules/filters.js:207)
> at Object.$tw.utils.each ((index):24224)
> at operationSubFunction ($:/core/modules/filters.js:190)
> at eval ($:/core/modules/filters.js:238)
> at eval ($:/core/modules/filters.js:263)
> at 

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Solution to generate a tree of parent tiddlers?

[TonyM]

Arkady,

Looks good, thanks for the followup.

Personally I would to anything not to rule out other tags, they can be so 
useful, if there is any thing that identifies a tiddler as a person, even 
one of a set like father mother that you can use so your solution is more 
robust is recommended.

Since all but home is a person at the moment you could tag all STANDARD 
tiddlers "person" (automated) and remove that from Home. And update your 
new here/new tiddler to add the person tag for future ones.


I recently created a Footer that goes in the View Template (and A Status 
Bar), A technique I used was to replicate what is found in the 
Viewtemplates use of Tags as well.

A Tiddler called $:/PSaT/macros/customfooter 

   tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate containing;


<$list 
filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplatefooter]!has[draft.of]]" 
variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>



Then my additional footer macros are simply 
tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplatefooter

I can now add as many additions to the footer as I want with a simple tag. 
I actually place buttons at the top and lists at the bottom of the footer, 
using draggable ordering.

This means I do not modify any system tiddlers like 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body
 
Perhaps these are useful?

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 6:01:12 PM UTC+11, Arkady Grudzinsky 
wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 8:16:13 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Arkady,
>>
>> That is Quite elegant, I just eliminated the system Prefix, because it 
>> got to TableOfContents then $:/tags/SideBar 
>> 
>>  in 
>> my case
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] -[prefix[$:/]]">
>> {{!!title}}
>> {{||ancestors}}
>> 
>> 
>>
>
>> And if I was using this for genealogy and each person was tagged "person" 
>> so I did not get it running off on other tags.
>>
>> If people we tagged male female you could also follow only the the female 
>> line.
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] +tag[person] -[prefix[$:/]]">
>> {{!!title}}
>> {{||ancestors}}
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Thanks. Once you use +tag[person], you won’t need to use -[prefix[$:/]] 
> or use other exclusion, I suppose, since that filters out all irrelevant 
> tags. In my case, however, I intend to have almost all tiddlers used for 
> people, except, perhaps, the “Home” tiddler used as an introduction. So, I 
> want to keep it simple. I will just make sure that the people tiddlers do 
> not tag anything but other people tiddlers. There will be maximum two tags 
> per tiddler.
>
> However;
>> How are you going to use this as a generic solution for the current 
>> tiddler what ever it name?
>>
> I plan to have a similar template for descendants:
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]]"><$link 
> to=<>>{{!!title}}
> {{||descendants}}
>
> To show “Ancestors” and “Descendants” for all tiddlers (except some) by 
> default, I change the $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body tiddler adding
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]]-[[Home]]"> 
> <$transclude tiddler="AncestorsDescendantsTemplate"/>
> 
>
> Then the AncestorsDescendantsTemplate tiddler shall be
>
> 
>
> ! Ancestors
>
> {{||ancestors}}
> 
> 
>
> ! Descendants
>
> {{||descendants}}
> 
>
> This should work. I’ve used this for a task management application when I 
> wanted different tiddlers to use different templates.
> ​
> -- 
> Arkady
>
>> ​
>>>
>>

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