[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-07 Thread D X
I see. 

New problem: I now need to expand this filter to include both the "father" 
and "mother" JSON indexes (and later on do some sorting), but no matter how 
I apply the quotes it seems like <$wikify> is running out of steam when I 
try to append another run to this filter string.

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[tw5] Cardo 1.0.4 - with Goals, IE11 compatibility, and fixes

2019-01-07 Thread bimlas
Great work! Lenyugozoen osszetett, amit csinalsz, gratula erte! ;)

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[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Eat == "use inside of"

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:42:25 PM UTC-8, D X wrote:
>
> Thanks, Mark S.!
>
> I'm not sure what 'eat' means in these rules, but your example has managed 
> to get me to something working. Interestingly, I had experimented with 
> <$wikify> before posting, but it couldn't get it to work right either and 
> had assumed it was a dead-end. For those curious (I spent a few hours 
> searching and experimenting before posting), here's how Mark's solution 
> works for the example:
>
> <$wikify name=search text=< [tag[data_page]search:text:literal['"'father'": ''"' {{!!parent_page}} 
> '"']] >> > 
> search: <>
> <$list filter=<> >
>
> * list: {{!!title}}
> 
> 
> Output:
> search: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "Kyle"]]
>
>- list: Angie - Data
>
>
>- list: Kyle - Data
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-07 Thread D X
Thanks, Mark S.!

I'm not sure what 'eat' means in these rules, but your example has managed 
to get me to something working. Interestingly, I had experimented with 
<$wikify> before posted, but it couldn't get it to work right either and 
had assumed it was a dead-end. For those curious (I spent a few hours 
searching and experimenting before posting), here's how Mark's solution 
works for the example:

<$wikify name=search text=<> > 
search: <>
<$list filter=<> >

* list: {{!!title}}


Output:
search: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "Kieran"]]
   
   - list: Angie - Data


   - list: Kyle - Data


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[tw5] Re: Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Wow, I didn't realize search had changed so much. I really need to pay 
attention to those release notes.

The five laws of concatenation, which I just made up:

Wikitext can't eat Wikitext
Wikitext can't eat Widgets
Widgets can't eat Widgets
Widgets CAN eat Wikitext.
Wikify can sometimes bend laws 1 through 3

The following version may be too distant from what you wanted, but might 
serve as a start. It did work in my quick test:

\define ppfilter(pp) [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": 
"{{!!parent_page}}"]]

<$wikify name=search text=<>> 
Variable: <>
<$list filter=<> >

* Search Result: {{!!title}}



HTH
-- Mark


On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 8:17:10 PM UTC-8, D X wrote:
>
> I imagine I'm missing something obvious, but I'm unable to construct a 
> working filter to search JSON tiddlers for a specified field value on TW 
> 5.1.18. Concat() is a usual $1$$2$$3$, etc. macro. Here are a few 
> variations that don't work for me:
>
> 1. Non-$macrocall, single brace field ref, quote-delimited:
> <$set name=search value=< '[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "' {!!parent_page} '"]]' "'" 
> >> > 
> Variable: <>
> <$list filter=<> >
>
> * Search Result: {{!!title}}
> 
> 
> Output 1:
> search: '[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "{!!parent_page}"]]'
>
>- list: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": 
>"{!!parent_page}"]]
>
>
> 2. Non-$macrocall, double brace field ref, quote-delimited:
> <$set name=search value=< '[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "' {{!!parent_page}} '"]]' 
> "'" >> > 
> search: <>
> <$list filter=<> >
>
> * list: {{!!title}}
> 
> 
> Output 2:
> search: '[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "Kyle"]]'
>
>- list: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": ""]]
>
>
> 3. Non-$macrocall, double brace field ref, non-quote-delimited:
> <$set name=search value=< '[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "' {{!!parent_page}} '"]]' >> 
> > 
> search: <>
> <$list filter=<> >
>
> * list: {{!!title}}
> 
> 
> Output 3:
> search: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "Kyle"]]
> --LIST DOESN'T RETURN RESULTS--
>
> 4. $macrocall, double brace field ref, non-quote-delimited:
> <$set name=search value=<$macrocall concat  
> 1='[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "' 2={{!!parent_page}} 
> 3='"]]' /> > 
> search: <>
> <$list filter=<> >
>
> * list: {{!!title}}
> 
> 
>
> Output 4:
> <$set name=search value=<$macrocall concat 
> 1='[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "' 2=Kyle 3='"]]' 
>  > search: 
> --LIST RETURNS EVERY TIDDLER--
>
> Seems like the quote delimiting is broken here, but I don't see the issue. 
> What's more, trying to close the <$macrocall> tag with /> seems to be 
> closing the <$set> macro as well.
>
> And there are a few other permutations of the above, none of which work. 
> =/ Help welcome and thanks in advance!
>

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[tw5] Broken Concat / Embedded Widget Calls / JSON Tiddler Filter

2019-01-07 Thread D X
I imagine I'm missing something obvious, but I'm unable to construct a 
working filter to search JSON tiddlers for a specified field value on TW 
5.1.18. Concat() is a usual $1$$2$$3$, etc. macro. Here are a few 
variations that don't work for me:

1. Non-$macrocall, single brace field ref, quote-delimited:
<$set name=search value=<> > 
Variable: <>
<$list filter=<> >

* Search Result: {{!!title}}


Output 1:
search: '[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "{!!parent_page}"]]'
   
   - list: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "{!!parent_page}"]]


2. Non-$macrocall, double brace field ref, quote-delimited:
<$set name=search value=<> > 
search: <>
<$list filter=<> >

* list: {{!!title}}


Output 2:
search: '[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "Kyle"]]'
   
   - list: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": ""]]


3. Non-$macrocall, double brace field ref, non-quote-delimited:
<$set name=search value=<> 
> 
search: <>
<$list filter=<> >

* list: {{!!title}}


Output 3:
search: [tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "Kyle"]]
--LIST DOESN'T RETURN RESULTS--

4. $macrocall, double brace field ref, non-quote-delimited:
<$set name=search value=<$macrocall concat  
1='[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "' 2={{!!parent_page}} 
3='"]]' /> > 
search: <>
<$list filter=<> >

* list: {{!!title}}



Output 4:
<$set name=search value=<$macrocall concat 
1='[tag[data_page]search:text:literal["father": "' 2=Kyle 3='"]]' 
 > search: 
--LIST RETURNS EVERY TIDDLER--

Seems like the quote delimiting is broken here, but I don't see the issue. 
What's more, trying to close the <$macrocall> tag with /> seems to be 
closing the <$set> macro as well.

And there are a few other permutations of the above, none of which work. =/ 
Help welcome and thanks in advance!

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[tw5] Deleting draft tiddlers from second Mac deleted the real tiddlers

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
The bob server garentees multiacess not a simple nodejs install as far as I 
understand.

Regards
Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: folding editor

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Joe,

For the planning items I still have the aforementioned disposition dates but I 
include

Planing-start planned start date
Planning-due planed completion date personal target
Planning-end do or die delivery end

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Read-only mode in a single HTML file Tiddywiki 5.1.19

2019-01-07 Thread CHUN LI
Hello,

I would like to enable the read-only mode in a single HTML file Tiddlywiki 
but cannot find the $:/status/IsReadOnly 
 tiddler. Is this 
only doable in the WebServer?

Thanks,

Chun


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[tw5] Cardo 1.0.4 - with Goals, IE11 compatibility, and fixes

2019-01-07 Thread David Szego
I'm very happy to announce the release of *Cardo* 1.0.4
A Task and Project Management Wiki for Getting Stuff Done 
*Cardo* comes from a combination of "Card" and "Do". This was the name 
given to the main north-south roads in ancient Roman cities, used as a 
guide for easy navigation. It also aptly describes the UI of the tool.

*Cardo* has many features for task and project management, including:
   
   - Projects, Teams, and RACI charts
   - Progress & Status Updates
   - Tasks, Delegation Tracking & Reminders
   - Contexts, Areas & Realms
   - Meetings & Agenda Items
   - References & Notes
   - Contacts & Conversations
   - Book Library & Reading Notes
   - Goals (with a very Tony Robbins feel)
   
They are tightly interlinked to allow extremely complex tracking, presented 
in very elegant dashboards.


Get Cardo at *http://cardo.wiki  *

*Cardo* comes in either a standalone "empty" TiddlyWiki file, or you can 
add *Cardo* to your existing TiddlyWiki by importing a .json file of 
plugins.


Thank you to everyone who contributed to the development of Cardo, either 
through testing and bug reports, feature suggestions, or kind words of 
encouragement! A special thanks to Jeremy for this fantastic platform we 
all love hacking on. Keep up the great work.


1.0.4 Changelog:



- *1.0.4 (7 Jan 2019):*
   
   - Added: Goals - with a very Tony Robbins feel
   - Fixed: IE11 compatibility (issue with guid.js)
   - Fixed: Reminder wording better reflects goals, tasks and projects
   - Fixed: Alignment of Tiddler buttons in Cardo theme
   - Added: Start date (cardo-start) to Projects and Tasks
   - Changed: Moved "Recurring"/"Reminder" checkboxes for cleaner layout
   - Fixed: New Conversation from sidebar was tagged wrong
   - Fixed: New items are set with the Focus currently set in the sidebar 
   (unless Focus is set to "All")
  - (This fixes a number of bugs where items don't appear due to 
  sidebar being un-set, as well as allows new items to have a default so 
they 
  should never be un-set)
   

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[tw5] Re: [TWC]Self-hosting

2019-01-07 Thread David Szego
Hi Rob, I'm also the author of dGSD - I'd love to know what's not clicking 
for you with Cardo, is it something Cardo-specific, or TW5 in general? Is 
it the need for an import routine for dGSD Tiddlers?

Cheers,
David.

On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 21:11:43 UTC-5, Rob wrote:
>
>
> ... David Szego's TW5-based *Cardo* isn't clicking with me and my dGSD 
> has a lot of info that would be painful to move over into a cardo. ...
>
 

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[tw5] Re: Navigate and close others?

2019-01-07 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Scott,

Sure! The code to do this is:

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink">
{{$:/core/images/home-button}} Home
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-all-tiddlers" />
<$action-navigate $to="PLACE_TITLE_OF_HOME_TIDDLER_HERE"/>




Explanation:

   - The "tm-close-all-tiddlers" message 
    handles 
   actually closing all tiddlers, by sending that message up to the navigator 
   widget . 
   - Then the action navigate widet  
   actually opens your "HOME" 
   tiddler. 
   - The class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" in the button just adds a 
   bit of styling. 

A working example:

   - Go to tiddlywiki.com, make a new tiddler and paste the following:

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="$:/HistoryList">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink">
{{$:/core/images/home-button}} Home
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-all-tiddlers" />
<$action-navigate $to="ButtonWidget"/>



Best,
Diego


On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 6:59:56 PM UTC-6, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> I have a button to navigate back to my home tiddler
> <$button to=Home >{{$:/core/images/home-button}} Home
>
>
> Is it possible to build such a button that would open Home and close the 
> rest?
>

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[tw5] Navigate and close others?

2019-01-07 Thread Scott Kingery
I have a button to navigate back to my home tiddler
<$button to=Home >{{$:/core/images/home-button}} Home


Is it possible to build such a button that would open Home and close the 
rest?

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[tw5] Deleting draft tiddlers from one machine deleted the real tiddlers

2019-01-07 Thread Jack Baty
I'm running TiddlyWiki via Node on a server. On my Mac at the office today 
I made a number edits and added some new tiddlers.

At my home Mac I saw several red tab-like notifications at the bottom of my 
browser (Firefox). The notices (for lack of a better word) said things like 
"Draft of Some New Tiddler" and "Draft of Some other Tiddler". These 
matched the names of existing tiddlers, but when I clicked on each of them 
they looked like empty draft tiddlers, so I deleted them. Turns out that by 
doing that I'd deleted the actual, complete tiddlers.

Any idea how that might happen? I leave the wiki open in a browser tab on 
both machines. Should I not do that?

Thanks,

Jack

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Tags with Superpowers: x-tag

2019-01-07 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi again,

Issue with empty field is fixed, that led to an improvement: there is a 
fallback to *title *now. The new ~else does the trick. Version 0.1.1 
 comes 
also with a ViewTemplate, so we can replace standard tags completely in the 
story river. 

Thanks again for the valuable feedback!
-t


> One issue: Assume by mistake you delete the default field in readme. Then 
> it shows something like 
> <$view tiddler=
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [New Plugin] MyStory Sidebar Tab – a replacement for Open

2019-01-07 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Dave, thanks a lot!

A detail: the description ends with ... below. "... in the settings." might 
make more sense without the context.

Great choice of categories anyway!

Cheers,
Thomas

Am Montag, 7. Januar 2019 22:04:54 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/:
>
> Hi Thomas
>
>
> I added this to the TiddlyWiki toolmap (
> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM), in two locations: 
> Navigation miscellaneous, and Layout/UI Sidebar and control panel 
> modifications
>
> Blessings
>
> Dave
>
> On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 6:37:04 AM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> I have been somewhat productive during the last days, so I will have to 
>> confront you with another newly developed plugin. 
>>
>> MyStory 
>>  
>> is a tab for the sidebar, meant as a replacement for *Open.* Again its 
>> target audience is people who use fields a lot and would like to see their 
>> captions or any other field in the sidebar. 
>>
>> [image: Bildschirmfoto 2019-01-06 um 13.32.42.png]
>>
>> Additionally MyStory offers
>>
>>- an edit button for each tiddler (optional)
>>- a "reopen last closed" button (only for tiddlers closed via MyStory)
>>- a readme with essential configuration options for the whole sidebar
>>
>> As always: *Make a backup first,* give it a try and let me know what you 
>> think. 
>>
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html
>>
>> Have fun!
>> Thomas
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Tags with Superpowers: x-tag

2019-01-07 Thread Thomas Elmiger


>  – but of course users would expect to *find *their tags the same way ... 
> still more work to do :–/
>

Should be fixed in version 0.0.6 now: 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Fx-tag

=== 

@Mohammad, thanks for your feedback too ... as there is no filter involved 
at the moment, I’m not sure about a quick fix. 

If you can think of more useful examples for the readme, let me know.

Cheers,
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[tw5] Re: [New Plugin] MyStory Sidebar Tab – a replacement for Open

2019-01-07 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/
Hi Thomas


I added this to the TiddlyWiki toolmap 
(https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM), in two locations: 
Navigation miscellaneous, and Layout/UI Sidebar and control panel 
modifications

Blessings

Dave

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 6:37:04 AM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> I have been somewhat productive during the last days, so I will have to 
> confront you with another newly developed plugin. 
>
> MyStory 
>  
> is a tab for the sidebar, meant as a replacement for *Open.* Again its 
> target audience is people who use fields a lot and would like to see their 
> captions or any other field in the sidebar. 
>
> [image: Bildschirmfoto 2019-01-06 um 13.32.42.png]
>
> Additionally MyStory offers
>
>- an edit button for each tiddler (optional)
>- a "reopen last closed" button (only for tiddlers closed via MyStory)
>- a readme with essential configuration options for the whole sidebar
>
> As always: *Make a backup first,* give it a try and let me know what you 
> think. 
>
> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html
>
> Have fun!
> Thomas
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Tags with Superpowers: x-tag

2019-01-07 Thread Mohammad
Hello Thomas
 many thanks for your great codes.

One issue: Assume by mistake you delete the default field in readme. Then 
it shows something like 
<$view tiddler=


I think it can show some empty message.

I also appreciate if in readme give application examples

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Tags with Superpowers: x-tag

2019-01-07 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hey Diego,

Thanks for testing my stuff, this exactly the kind of feedback I am looking 
for!

In my personal experience it was enough to *show* the tags also in edit 
mode as the <> macro would (so you would still have to 
search for the title) – but of course users would expect to *find *their 
tags the same way ... still more work to do :–/

So the most valuable part at the moment is the x-tag macro. 

Thanks again!
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: subfilter examples

2019-01-07 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Tony!
 I am practicing to learn it. Riz gave a very good example of course.

Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: subfilter examples

2019-01-07 Thread Mohammad
Many thanks Riz.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 3:55:20 PM UTC+3:30, Riz wrote:
>
> Imagine you want to dynamically create filters. You can obviously use 
> macro definitions and use them like
>
> filter=<>
>
> Issue arises when you want to add steps to the filter. You cannot go
> filter="<> +[tag[mytag]]"
>
> Subfilter solves this issue. You can go like 
> filter="[subfilter] +[tag[mytag]]"
> And in another tiddler you can go like 
> filter="[subfilterappend[!]]"
>
>
> Basically it enables you to define dynamic filters and reuse them. 
>
>
> sincerely,
> Riz
>
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>
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[tw5] Re: OAuth -- is it so difficult?

2019-01-07 Thread Lost Admin
I haven't done anything other than a quick search, but it appears that 
there is a OAUTH2 module for Apache (on sourceforge).

There is also mod_auth_openidc (open ID connector) on Github.

Without having looked into either of these, I'm guessing, but I imagine 
they would allow you to put OAUTH in front of a tiddlywiki served through 
Apache (either directly or as a reverse proxy).


On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:15 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I wonder if we can OAuth logging on server versions?
>
> The benefit is users don't need to create yet another login.
>
> J
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Tags with Superpowers: x-tag

2019-01-07 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Thomas,

First - thanks for all your recent work! 

I tried this plugin by adding a caption to the sidebar tag to "TheSideBar". 
It shows up correctly in the plugin tiddler. Now, I select activate 
checkbox to  both, and create a new tiddler, actually typing "TheSideBar" 
produces no results in the dropdown. Adding it and saving, clicking it does 
not open the actual $:/tags/SideBar tiddler.

Maybe I misunderstood something?

Thanks,
Diego 

On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 2:47:43 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hello Tiddly-hackers,
>
> Would you help me to test a new plugin?
>
> *x-tag* labels your tags with the content of any field you like – and 
> what you like most can be configured as default label. 
>
> Usage
>
> Default label: <>
>
> Different label: <>
>
>
> x-tag comes with an optional styling of its own, so you know what kind of 
> tag pill you see, even without clicking it. 
>
> And even in edit mode you can work with x-tags. Add and remove tags 
> from/to tiddlers based on other fields than title.
>
> So if you work with caption a lot or if you have another field you would 
> like to use to label your tags: Give it a try and let me know how it works 
> for you.
>
> As always: *Back up first,* and then go to 
> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Fx-tag
>
> Happy tagging!
> Thomas
>

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[tw5] A question about JSON and META files

2019-01-07 Thread mauloop
Hi sirs, and wish you a Happy New Year (a little bit late for greetings but 
this is my first post in 2019).

Does anyone know if there is a way to force Tiddlywiki (running on Node.js) 
to save .JSON + .JSON.META files instead of a single .TID file, when 
creating tiddlers with type = "application/json"?

I need to create JSON files which in turns should feed another application, 
so I'd like that Tiddlywiki related stuff was saved apart, since it is not 
useful for the receiving app.

Thanks in advance,

)+(

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[tw5] Re: Using variables inside of square brackets to link to external files.

2019-01-07 Thread Jack Stephan
Mark,

Thanks a million. This clarifies everything for me. 

Jack

On Monday, 7 January 2019 16:12:48 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> In this version, the base path is defined in a tiddler, mypathtiddler. It 
> could be defined in a field of a tiddler, but this way is a little more 
> transparent:
>
> \define pdflink2(name path file page)  [ext[$name$|$path$/$file$.pdf
> #page=$page$]]
> \define pdflink(name file page) <$macrocall $name=pdflink2 name=
> """$name$""" path={{mypathtiddler}} file="""$file$""" page="""$page$"""/> 
>
> <>
>
> Good luck!
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 3:55:36 AM UTC-8, Jack Stephan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Thank you. This what I am looking for. One final question, is there a way 
>> to have my input to $path$ be the field of a tiddler i.e. title or else a 
>> user-defined field, but the actual path itself (another user-defined field) 
>> populates?
>>
>> Again, I really appreciate the help. I'm still getting the hang of this,
>> Jack
>>
>> On Sunday, 6 January 2019 21:14:24 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Untested, but this should work (you may need to tweak the path, etc)
>>>
>>> \define pdflink(name path page)  
>>> [ext[$name$|files/$path$.pdf#page=$page$]]
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 4:51:00 AM UTC-8, Jack Stephan wrote:

 Hello, thanks in advance for any help. I'm still quite a new user so I 
 don't know if I'm phrasing the question in a way that meaningful, but I'll 
 try my best. I am trying to incorporate all the PDFs from my lectures into 
 TiddlWiki and link to them and specific pages. Is there a way to use this 
 form of linking to PDFs:

  [ext[linkName|files/POD_5_MLST.pdf#page=8]]

 and to make the link name (linkName) page number (8) and the PDF title 
 (POD_5_MLST.pdf) variables in some sort of macro? Ideally the macro would 
 have three inputs, the desired title (linkName), the primary key of the 
 PDF 
 tiddler (labelled as field FID) which would call the PDF file name 
 (another 
 field called filename), and the page number to link to? For example:

 <>

 To illustrate the structure of my PDF tiddlers, here is an example:
 fid POD5
 filename POD_5_MLST.pdf
 lecturetitle Mathematical Logic & Set Theory
 pdf pdf
 scode POD
 tags [[Principles of Databases]]
 tcode 
 title POD_5_MLST.pdf
 type lecture

 Again, thanks for the help. I hope I have explained my question well 
 enough, but again, I think I am still in the learning phase where it is 
 difficult to ask the 'right' questions.

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread h0p3
* https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/MhVsFURHpoM
* 
https://philosopher.life/#2019.01.01%20-%20TWGGF%3A%20Google's%20Incentives

I've waited a while to respond to this. I might as well join. 

Imho, Google's indexing isn't just poor for https://tiddlywiki.com/ but for 
all TWs. I grant SEO can be improved for TW, but I am not convinced this 
problem is going to be solved anytime soon (and most likely not at all).

I'm fairly cynical about the matter. Google has enormous incentives to 
punish us for not channeling and packaging content into 
mobile/cache-friendly formats, static tooling, oversimplified atoms of 
content, and models which maximize their profits. Given their dominance, 
they can force others to play by their rules, and you won't defeat them on 
their own turf. They aim to optimize how we build their walled-garden for 
them,<> track and model users efficiently, and control the masses 
through a world-class advertisement machine.<> They don't want you 
to own your identities except insofar as it benefits them. They don't want 
you to have dynamic control over your data because it's not price efficient 
for them (static is cheaper to handle) and they also want you to pay 
(directly or indirectly) for the privilege of using services on or built in 
virtue of their infrastructure instead.<>

TW embodies the hacker ethic: it is antithetical to Google's ends (and the 
means to those ends). They have no incentive to enable the decentralization 
of information power except insofar as it has asymmetrically disrupted 
their competition. I expect we will continue to be punished for trying to 
own our data with a tool like TW. Perhaps that will change one day; TW 
would need to become mainstream enough for them to find it worth 
specifically parsing, mapping, etc.<>

If SEO matters to you, you are likely relegated to using TW as a CMS or 
development environment but never as the complete final product. It is 
possible that TW still isn't the best pick there either.

I hate to say it, but I think TW is the wrong tool for the job even if 
that's not TW's fault.


---
<>

<>

<>

<>



On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 1:26:47 AM UTC-5, Siniy-Kit wrote:
>
> For example open Google and write "This plugin adds the ability to 
> display mathematical notation written in LaTeX."  
>
> I see tiddlywiki.com only on 7 position (not too good) in my national 
> search it  is on first position.  if we click this position we will see 
> this https://tiddlywiki.com/static/KaTeX%2520Plugin.html  very nice 
> static page with 2 links. First link to tiddlywiki.com and second link to 
> 404 "file not find"  
>
> TiddlyWiki is great, but "static" mechanism is very old. 
> First of all this page https://tiddlywiki.com/static/KaTeX%2520Plugin.html 
> must have right menu.
> And the  second -  all links in "static" pages must look like  https://tiddlywiki.com/static/KaTeX%2520Plugin.html; onclick=
> "window.open('https://tiddlywiki.com/#KaTeX%20Plugin')"">KaTeX Plugin 
>
>
> Google will index this link in a proper way, and people will see main 
> tiddlywiki.com after click on any link.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Extending the d3.js plugin past a proof of concept

2019-01-07 Thread Resolution Bazaar
Hi Jed,

Why is there so much space in the height of the chart

https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/d3plugin/#Display

Please suggest, I am using this plugin in one of my project.

Regards
Atul


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[tw5] Re: OAuth -- is it so difficult?

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Since Google blocks my first post here is it again on olde e-mail


On Monday, 7 January 2019 17:37:15 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I wonder if we can OAuth logging on server versions?
>
> The benefit is users don't need to create yet another login.
>
> J
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlySmile ...

2019-01-07 Thread Mohammad
:-)

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 4:20:43 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> April Mackenzie wrote me an in/enquire from The Oriental Institute, 
> Oxford, UK 
> 
> ...
>
> "Can TiddlyWiki predict the Brexit outcome?"
>
>
> I replied: 
>
> Dear April in May May may.
>
>
> Best wishes
> Orthogonal 
>

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[tw5] Re: Deciding between using a single file/Timimi or Node

2019-01-07 Thread Jack Baty
I've ended up using several of the options.


   - Node on a server for rudimentarylathe.org
   - TiddlyDesktop for a collection of project-based wikis
   - Firefox/Timimi for several one-offs or for occasionally accessing the 
   ones managed by TiddlyDesktop

They all work great :)

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread Siniy-Kit
I see TW 6.0.0  in this way.  I open  TiddlyDesktop , press "add new 
tiddler" and write "Tiddlywiki is the best CMS for static sites!"  and  
then close  TiddlyDesktop.
Next day I open Google and write "Tiddlywiki is the best CMS for static 
sites!"  and see my site heeg.ru on the *first position*, I click this link 
and see my tiddler  with this text (not 404 page).

It is simple, no magic, no node.js, filezilla and server script. Will be it 
one page or many  It doesn't matter. 
The main idea - if we publish something (idea, plugin, image) people must 
have possibility to find it.  *Nothing * was done in tiddlywiki in this 
direction. 




 


понедельник, 7 января 2019 г., 15:06:24 UTC+3 пользователь TonyM написал:
>
> Siniy,
>
> You are not talking to yourself. I belive I understand your concerns. 
> Something similar was raised recently. I have not worked with static sites 
> which I believe are the key to improving tiddlywiki appearence in search 
> results.
>
> It seems to me nessasary for implementations that demand a searchable 
> presence on the internet.
>
> Is this your concern?
>
> I am confident there is a solution and in fact believe I have a good idea 
> how to, and believe tiddlywiku has what we need.
>
> Could you state what you need, not a solution or a possible solution just 
> what you want to happen?
>
> I think this will help us proceed.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

2019-01-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
A widget is markup text that, if you're familiar with HTML, works identical 
to that of an HTML tag. Except that the widget has special TW powers. It's 
form looks like this:

<$thingy atrribute1=abc attribute2=xyz >Sometimes stuff goes here

If you had a widget invoked as <$thingy> then it would be referenced as 
ThingyWidget in the TW documentation. This is good to know when looking up 
documentation.

Widgets perform most of the heavy lifting in TW, including listing 
tiddlers, creating tiddlers, renaming fields, exposing tiddler contents, 
running macros.

Be careful not to confuse Widgets with WikiText (reference to WikiText). 
WikiText is a special markup that secretly, behind the scenes, is actually 
creating and invoking Widgets. For
instance, this wikitext for transcluding a tiddler:

{{myTiddler}}

is actually wikitext shorthand for

<$transclude tiddler="myTiddler"/>

It's important to keep the concepts of WikiText and Widgets separate in 
your thinking. WikiText can be used inside of Widgets, but Widgets can not 
be used inside of WikiText.

That is, you can do this:

<$transclude tiddler=<>/>

but you can not do this

{{<$transclude tiddler="mytiddler"/>}}

.
.

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:42:34 AM UTC-8, S. S. wrote:

> TonyM - thanks for getting it started!
>
> *The question asked was:* *can you please give me a simpler explanation 
> of what is meant by "a Widget"?*
>
> I was hoping this would be an easy question to answer for experienced 
> users. 
>
> This is what I have so far ...
>
> Widgets form the processing heart of TiddlyWiki.
>
> Widgets can be considered TiddlyWiki's personalized extension of HTML, to 
> perform tasks specific to the needs of TiddlyWiki's user's needs and 
> experience.
>
> They are used for tasks such as to:
>
>- create variables and complex short cuts (macros)
>- create buttons, check-boxes, and radio buttons
>- create, delete, modify, open & close tiddlers
>- edit text and images
>- display and manipulate your material (such as text, images, 
>videos)
>- display and move to specific areas
>- ??
>- and much much more
>
> ...
>
>
> a little help would be appreciated !
>
>
> Thanks
>

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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

2019-01-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Re entering equations. You could enter them as images freehand, and then 
transcribe them later. I would worry that entering them as latex would 
introduce errors and/or slow the note process.

-- Mark

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 3:13:08 AM UTC-8, Luca Dorigo wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I've been doing just this for the past year. TW is a wonderful tool for 
> the purpose, but it does need some tweaking in order to be usable as live 
> notetaking.
>
> Here are some tips:
>
>
> * Use the node version of TW. Preferably storing it on dropbox or some 
> cloud provider so you don't want to kill yourself the day your HDD fails 
> and you loose 3 months of work (been there)
> * You need the KaTeX plugin for typesetting math equations
> * Get a powerful keyboard-macro program (on macOS I am using 
> https://www.keyboardmaestro.com/main/, most well-spent 30$ of the year) 
> and define keyboard shortcuts for common latex symbols and structures. That 
> is your only hope of entering math equations fast enough. Chorded shortcuts 
> (that involve more than one combination of keys) are especially helpful to 
> organize shortcuts in an easy to remember way.
>
> For instance, `cmd-l + l` writes the KaTeX delimiters and positions the 
> cursor between them:
>
> $$
>
> $$
>
> `cmd-l + k` starts listening for greek symbols input: whatever character I 
> press next is converted to the corresponding greek symbol in latex. Ex:
> t -> \theta
> T (shift-t) -> \Theta
> w -> \omega
> d -> \delta
> D (shift-t) -> \Delta
> alt-d -> \partial (delta used in partial derivatives)
> etc.
>
> `cmd-l + w` starts listening for triggers for "wrapping" latex 
> expressions, and positions the cursor at the right spot:
>
> i -> \int_{}^{} , positions the cursor inside the first set of brackets
> s -> \sin\left(  \right), positions the cursor after the "("
> a -> \begin{aligned}  \end{aligned} , for blocks of several equations 
>
>
> There's a lot more, those are just some examples. This allows me to write 
> latex equations/notes extremely fast, and is the only way I found to keep 
> up the pace of a lecture.
>
> * Write a script or find some way to speedup the image import process. 
> That's something I complained about several times before here, inserting 
> images is sooo clunky in TW and completely disrupts the notetaking flow.
>
> With a combination of the keyboard shortcut program above and some bash 
> scripting, I now have a keyboard shortcut that allows me to capture a 
> screenshot of the area I need, save it in the TW folder with a random name, 
> generate the corresponding .meta tiddly file, and put the corresponding  
> `[img[img_name]]` in my clipboard so that I can paste it inside my tiddly. 
> It now takes me less than a second to insert images in my notes.
>
> * Define some tiddlywiki macros for stuff like "definition", "example", 
> "important", etc. an associate them to keyboard shortcuts so you can take 
> structured notes without losing too much time for it.
>
> * Find the right level of "graining" for your tiddly's. I initially split 
> my notes into very, very small chunks (tiddlys) but I found that to be 
> counter-productive. My heuristic is now "will I ever need to link to this 
> concept on its own ?" . If yes, it goes into a tiddly. Otherwise, just 
> include inside the "parent" tiddly.
>
>
> That's what comes to mind now.
>
> If you work on macOS, feel free to message me, I will be happy to send you 
> the macros/scripts that I have.
>
>
>
>
> Le mercredi 2 janvier 2019 16:42:49 UTC+1, Evžen Wybitul a écrit :
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I 
>> planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can 
>> see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could 
>> use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and 
>> tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have 
>> a question, though:
>>
>> *How should I start?*
>>
>> There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers, 
>> themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the 
>> most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway? 
>> I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I 
>> need it. The question could be phrased differently:
>>
>> *How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins, 
>> which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*
>>
>> I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this 
>> group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using variables inside of square brackets to link to external files.

2019-01-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
In this version, the base path is defined in a tiddler, mypathtiddler. It 
could be defined in a field of a tiddler, but this way is a little more 
transparent:

\define pdflink2(name path file page)  [ext[$name$|$path$/$file$.pdf
#page=$page$]]
\define pdflink(name file page) <$macrocall $name=pdflink2 name="""$name$""" 
path={{mypathtiddler}} file="""$file$""" page="""$page$"""/> 

<>

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 3:55:36 AM UTC-8, Jack Stephan wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thank you. This what I am looking for. One final question, is there a way 
> to have my input to $path$ be the field of a tiddler i.e. title or else a 
> user-defined field, but the actual path itself (another user-defined field) 
> populates?
>
> Again, I really appreciate the help. I'm still getting the hang of this,
> Jack
>
> On Sunday, 6 January 2019 21:14:24 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Untested, but this should work (you may need to tweak the path, etc)
>>
>> \define pdflink(name path page)  
>> [ext[$name$|files/$path$.pdf#page=$page$]]
>>
>> Good luck
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 4:51:00 AM UTC-8, Jack Stephan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, thanks in advance for any help. I'm still quite a new user so I 
>>> don't know if I'm phrasing the question in a way that meaningful, but I'll 
>>> try my best. I am trying to incorporate all the PDFs from my lectures into 
>>> TiddlWiki and link to them and specific pages. Is there a way to use this 
>>> form of linking to PDFs:
>>>
>>>  [ext[linkName|files/POD_5_MLST.pdf#page=8]]
>>>
>>> and to make the link name (linkName) page number (8) and the PDF title 
>>> (POD_5_MLST.pdf) variables in some sort of macro? Ideally the macro would 
>>> have three inputs, the desired title (linkName), the primary key of the PDF 
>>> tiddler (labelled as field FID) which would call the PDF file name (another 
>>> field called filename), and the page number to link to? For example:
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> To illustrate the structure of my PDF tiddlers, here is an example:
>>> fid POD5
>>> filename POD_5_MLST.pdf
>>> lecturetitle Mathematical Logic & Set Theory
>>> pdf pdf
>>> scode POD
>>> tags [[Principles of Databases]]
>>> tcode 
>>> title POD_5_MLST.pdf
>>> type lecture
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for the help. I hope I have explained my question well 
>>> enough, but again, I think I am still in the learning phase where it is 
>>> difficult to ask the 'right' questions.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Custom languages/brushes for highlight.js

2019-01-07 Thread Mohammad
Rob,
could you put a working example on tiddlyspot or github or post here?
I could not setup as you said on TW 5.1.19

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-07 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey all,

Thanks for you replies - I agree that TW is different/better/more 
powerful/flexible, etc than the "competition" I've posted. My point was not 
lets copy their features, but lets study:

   - How they present their features
   - Which ones appeal to larger groups of people
   - How they get exposure to different groups
   - etc

I want TW to be bigger, more well known, and EASIER TO BEGIN. Many 
"competitors" of TW have all three of these going for them

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 8:25:22 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Yeah
>
> Where do I find those distinctions in the wild?
>
> Such that a seeker could find their gold?
>
> Looking for the one
> Josiah
>
> On Monday, 7 January 2019 13:31:10 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Josiah,
>>
>> As I have voiced previously on the subject of wiki the name and meaning 
>> issue, the easiest solution is to refer where ever possible to the 
>> "Tiddlywiki platform" And insert between these two words the following as 
>> appropriate; 
>>
>> Application
>> Note
>> Website
>> Database
>> Mobile
>>
>> Because it is all of these and more. 
>>
>> Relegate tiddlywiki to the name and let platform suggest its capacity.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Yeah

Where do I find those distinctions in the wild?

Such that a seeker could find their gold?

Looking for the one
Josiah

On Monday, 7 January 2019 13:31:10 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Josiah,
>
> As I have voiced previously on the subject of wiki the name and meaning 
> issue, the easiest solution is to refer where ever possible to the 
> "Tiddlywiki platform" And insert between these two words the following as 
> appropriate; 
>
> Application
> Note
> Website
> Database
> Mobile
>
> Because it is all of these and more. 
>
> Relegate tiddlywiki to the name and let platform suggest its capacity.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: folding editor

2019-01-07 Thread Joe Armstrong
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:31 AM TonyM  wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I think this could save you automating, build it right into the model.
>
> Have you seen my algorithim that uses date stamps on fields for task
> management? I think this is a superior method to tags. No need to swap one
> tag for another.
>
> Eg I have the following fields item-started item-completed item-cancelled
> item-archived
> If at any time I timestamp such a field, not only does it change its
> status, but I record when it changed status.
> Using the new subfilter operator I define active-task to equal
> [has[item-started]!has[item-completed]!has[item-cancelled]] - I call this
> tiddler disposition.
> Using this method I can interrogate my tasks in many ways like
>
>- active-task started more than a week ago
>- Task closed today
>
> I also have item-strategic item-tactical and item-operational dates. Each
> representing Monthly, Weekly and Daily
> Listing tactical due I just list active-tasks with a item-tactical older
> than 7 days. When I do a tactical tasks I can just re-stamp it with the
> current date and it will not list for another week
> This allows me to change the review periods without changing any task
> tiddlers. Eg Tactical review of 2 weeks or 14 days.
> These review tiddlers can also have a tiddler disposition as above.
>
> Using this method you could retrofit tools that report how long something
> was active eg item-completed less item-started
> I also allow item-planed-start item-planed-due to be set and can show when
> they are planned to start and past due
>
> Fields are like a specific tag for which you can store a value.
>
> Anything with Item-archived appears in my references list and discourages
> deletion.
>
>
>
Interesting - I shall have to think about this ... one thing I do a lot is
work against deadlines - so things get
to be classified as now when the deadline approaches. I could also guess
how long the job takes
so I could add a descriptor

   deliver-on  takes <2 days> tell me <3 weeks> before 

and let these produce appropriate reminders ...

/Joe




> On Monday, 7 January 2019 07:09:35 UTC+11, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 6 January 2019 12:05:02 UTC+1, tony wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 1:25:19 PM UTC-8, Joe Armstrong wrote:


 It seems to me you can come a long way with tags and filter operations
 over tags.

>>>
>>> Indeed! That is why your re-implementation of Chandler is a breath of
>>> fresh air.
>>>
>>> My needs are simple and expedient. I've moved back to analog with the
>>> joys of a fountain pen and paper to more rapidly capture daily tasks.
>>>
>>
>> Yes :-)
>>
>> As regards the automation of simple tasks I've been doing some
>> experiments.
>>
>> I had some tiddlers tagged 'draft' and 'final' then I made a button to
>> change draft to final -
>> the problem was that now I could do this operation too quickly - in order
>> to change draft to
>> final I needed to read what I had written and *think* - the *deliberate*
>> act of adding a new tag and
>> removing an old one slowed things down.
>>
>> Automating this meant I could do the operation faster than
>> I could think - also automation added a layer of unnecessary complication
>> - the power of the system
>> came from the filter operations over tags and not the ability to automate
>> tag manipulation.
>>
>> Deciding how much to automate is a very tricky problem and needs several
>> rounds of prototyping
>> to get it right.
>>
>> Personally I favor the idea of a minimal viable program (see
>> https://joearms.github.io/#2014-06-25%20Minimal%20Viable%20Programs)
>>
>> I'll have to implement the ticket system I described above in the TW :-)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I still believe in a simple hyperlinked plain CamelCased wiki
>>>  as a repository for my stuff not as a Jira or
>>> Trax replacement.
>>>
>>> For me, not every wiki entry is/needs the UI widget baggage polluting
>>> the text area since the wiki is not the end product, but a means to
>>> externalize memory in plain text.
>>>
>>> If tasks and projects are important enough I add them to my TiddlyWiki
>>> and then archive to VimWiki  which
>>> is better cross platform.
>>>
>>> Plus I'm intellectually too impatient and lazy to learn more TiddlyWiki
>>> tinkering. I'm still learning the command line.
>>>
>>> Too much friction leads me to abandonment. [1]
>>>
>>> Chandler provides the convenience of separating actionable items from
>>> rest of the wiki. This is why a simple semantic tag, 'chandler' is so
>>> powerful. It separates my wiki into actionable and not actionable stuff
>>> much like sparse trees and agenda in OrgMode 
>>>
>>>
 So what does your new ChandlerDone look like? - I'm curious

>>>
>>> Chandler's dashboard reminds me of Korsakov's LinearHomeoscope
>>>   

[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed Carty wrote:
>
> "Widgets are the active elements in a tiddlywiki."
>

Could you delineate from the non-active bits?

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

2019-01-07 Thread Jed Carty
Widgets are the active elements in a tiddlywiki.

CSS and similar things can change the way the wiki looks but they react to 
the environment around them, widgets act on their own (or to user input for 
buttons and similar).

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Tony M.

Great reply. Thanks. Complex but doable.

The problem is ...

1 -- HOW will Siniy-Kit get his dynamic shops known? 


2 -- The route of having to go static first does NOT look optimal between 
one-more-click and "don't bother".


Just impressions
Josiah

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>
> Josiah,
>
> Imagin you have a fantastic tiddlywiki, all its bells and whistles, it is 
> served or single file and you put it up on the internet. The search engins 
> dont load your wiki just the files they can see. They missout on seeing 
> what an interactive user sees.
>
> A bach export of all html that an interactive user may see into to html 
> pages stored along side your wiki online and ensure the search engins can 
> see this content and index it.
>
> Now if as a result of a search engin some one arrives at such a static 
> page, any attempt to interact with that page opens the interactive 
> tiddlywiki transparently would work.
>
> Add a feature to generate new static pages for updates, and I belive the 
> problem will be solved. It just a matter of putting the right files and 
> links online for the search engins to use.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlySmile ...

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
April Mackenzie wrote me an in/enquire from The Oriental Institute, Oxford, 
UK 

...

"Can TiddlyWiki predict the Brexit outcome."


I replied: 

Dear April in May May may.

Best wishes
Orthogonal 

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[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Yes,

My answer was complete, not easy, however I belive from my answer we can 
generate simpler descriptions similar to yours. Perhaps we leave out 
intermediate things like variables as they are a means to an end eg; widgets 
help you
Display images, video and audio
List information
Organise information automaticaly
Display and edit dates, text and numbers
Build forms reports and documents
Build interactive websites.
Etc...

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Josiah,

Imagin you have a fantastic tiddlywiki, all its bells and whistles, it is 
served or single file and you put it up on the internet. The search engins dont 
load your wiki just the files they can see. They missout on seeing what an 
interactive user sees.

A bach export of all html that an interactive user may see into to html pages 
stored along side your wiki online and ensure the search engins can see this 
content and index it.

Now if as a result of a search engin some one arrives at such a static page, 
any attempt to interact with that page opens the interactive tiddlywiki 
transparently would work.

Add a feature to generate new static pages for updates, and I belive the 
problem will be solved. It just a matter of putting the right files and links 
online for the search engins to use.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Josiah,

As I have voiced previously on the subject of wiki the name and meaning issue, 
the easiest solution is to refer where ever possible to the "Tiddlywiki 
platform" And insert between these two words the following as appropriate; 

Application
Note
Website
Database
Mobile

Because it is all of these and more. 

Relegate tiddlywiki to the name and let platform suggest its capacity.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Systems Design Strategy - Centralised logic

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Josiah et al,

Tiddlywiki is highly plastic, we can do anything with it. As a systems designer 
I can see how we can develop methods to centralise, or systematise solutions 
within tiddlywiki, such that complexity can be reduced, logic and algorithums 
shared more easily and change and innovation accelerated (as if we need more ).

For most users they have an idea and can build it with a range of components, 
often editions, plugins or macros to achive specific things and then there is a 
longer phase of filling it out to a complete or partial solution. This phase is 
where we can save a lot of effort by providing systematic solutions similar to 
my suggestion of macros and filters that capture key application logic that are 
easier than reverting to unconditioned wikitext/ macros.

I hope to publish an example sooner or later but hoping to see if anyone 
understands the value and concept to stimulate discussion.

Best wishes
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
TonyM wrote:
>
> ... static sites which I believe are the key to improving tiddlywiki 
> appearence in search results.
>

It would be far better to put effort into getting JS rich TW "sites" 
(single page) better indexed. The idea you make a TW and then have to make 
another another "static" version SUCKS.

Google can  obviously traverse pages with JS otherwise most of the net 
would not be indexed.

There is likely a way we are missing. 

I think we need better understanding of G. indexing.

Just my guess
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread TonyM
Siniy,

You are not talking to yourself. I belive I understand your concerns. Something 
similar was raised recently. I have not worked with static sites which I 
believe are the key to improving tiddlywiki appearence in search results.

It seems to me nessasary for implementations that demand a searchable presence 
on the internet.

Is this your concern?

I am confident there is a solution and in fact believe I have a good idea how 
to, and believe tiddlywiku has what we need.

Could you state what you need, not a solution or a possible solution just what 
you want to happen?

I think this will help us proceed.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Using variables inside of square brackets to link to external files.

2019-01-07 Thread Jack Stephan
Hi Mark,

Thank you. This what I am looking for. One final question, is there a way 
to have my input to $path$ be the field of a tiddler i.e. title or else a 
user-defined field, but the actual path itself (another user-defined field) 
populates?

Again, I really appreciate the help. I'm still getting the hang of this,
Jack

On Sunday, 6 January 2019 21:14:24 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Untested, but this should work (you may need to tweak the path, etc)
>
> \define pdflink(name path page)  [ext[$name$|files/$path$.pdf#page=$page$]]
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>
> On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 4:51:00 AM UTC-8, Jack Stephan wrote:
>>
>> Hello, thanks in advance for any help. I'm still quite a new user so I 
>> don't know if I'm phrasing the question in a way that meaningful, but I'll 
>> try my best. I am trying to incorporate all the PDFs from my lectures into 
>> TiddlWiki and link to them and specific pages. Is there a way to use this 
>> form of linking to PDFs:
>>
>>  [ext[linkName|files/POD_5_MLST.pdf#page=8]]
>>
>> and to make the link name (linkName) page number (8) and the PDF title 
>> (POD_5_MLST.pdf) variables in some sort of macro? Ideally the macro would 
>> have three inputs, the desired title (linkName), the primary key of the PDF 
>> tiddler (labelled as field FID) which would call the PDF file name (another 
>> field called filename), and the page number to link to? For example:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> To illustrate the structure of my PDF tiddlers, here is an example:
>> fid POD5
>> filename POD_5_MLST.pdf
>> lecturetitle Mathematical Logic & Set Theory
>> pdf pdf
>> scode POD
>> tags [[Principles of Databases]]
>> tcode 
>> title POD_5_MLST.pdf
>> type lecture
>>
>> Again, thanks for the help. I hope I have explained my question well 
>> enough, but again, I think I am still in the learning phase where it is 
>> difficult to ask the 'right' questions.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Systems Design Strategy - Centralised logic

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
TonyM

I can't answer well as I don't have the skill.

IMO sets of base thingies would be useful orientated to SPECIFIC types of 
use cases?

I'm not so sure there is a "central" way in TW?

Just fairly crude thinking
Josiah

TonyM wrote:
>
> I just wanted to start a thread on "Centralised logic" in TiddlyWiki, it 
> is a systems design pattern I am interested in developing
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[tw5] Re: #twInPublic

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I'm still getting blocked on first post to email on GG ... here is what i 
writted ..

On Monday, 7 January 2019 12:18:48 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> https://sphygm.us/
>
> ... via 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/tpg-qzVbWFw/rFOafsYkEgAJ
>

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[tw5] Re: Systems Design Strategy - Centralised logic

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
cc & tm

I thought cc's note interesting.

IMO if we encouraged PMario a bit more The Bundler might add Delete 
Facilities. 

IMO JSON mediated adds and subtracts are the easiest & most sensible 
approach to management of TW scope.

Josiah

coda coder wrote:
>
> You're right, this is a problem area of sorts. However, I'm trying to 
> justify/compare your approach with PMario's Bundles system, which allows 
> ad-hoc collections of tiddlers garnered from pretty much anywhere.
>
> Thoughts?
>

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[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

2019-01-07 Thread S. S.
Thanks Josiah!

I was thinking more of just an introduction, so as to make a newcomer 
curious to know what all they might do and how they could be used, and to 
not go into a daze when seeing the word *Widget* - like I did when I first 
read it.

Perhaps starting with something like ...

They could have been called "Tools" or "Elements" or "Identifiers" or 
"Commands", but in TiddlyWiki, they are called "Widgets"

...

... ???

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 5:55:46 PM UTC+7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> S.S. & Tony M.
>
> As far as "widgets" go I have a specific view as an idiot.
>
> I need (1) simple examples; (2) more complex examples that build from 1.
>
> I think you begin to understand them better when you SEE them working.
>
> My tuppence.
> Josiah
>
> S. S. wrote:
>>
>> TonyM - thanks for getting it started!
>>
>> *The question asked was:* *can you please give me a simpler explanation 
>> of what is meant by "a Widget"?*
>>
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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

2019-01-07 Thread Luca Dorigo
Hi there,

I've been doing just this for the past year. TW is a wonderful tool for the 
purpose, but it does need some tweaking in order to be usable as live 
notetaking.

Here are some tips:


* Use the node version of TW. Preferably storing it on dropbox or some 
cloud provider so you don't want to kill yourself the day your HDD fails 
and you loose 3 months of work (been there)
* You need the KaTeX plugin for typesetting math equations
* Get a powerful keyboard-macro program (on macOS I am using 
https://www.keyboardmaestro.com/main/, most well-spent 30$ of the year) and 
define keyboard shortcuts for common latex symbols and structures. That is 
your only hope of entering math equations fast enough. Chorded shortcuts 
(that involve more than one combination of keys) are especially helpful to 
organize shortcuts in an easy to remember way.

For instance, `cmd-l + l` writes the KaTeX delimiters and positions the 
cursor between them:

$$

$$

`cmd-l + k` starts listening for greek symbols input: whatever character I 
press next is converted to the corresponding greek symbol in latex. Ex:
t -> \theta
T (shift-t) -> \Theta
w -> \omega
d -> \delta
D (shift-t) -> \Delta
alt-d -> \partial (delta used in partial derivatives)
etc.

`cmd-l + w` starts listening for triggers for "wrapping" latex expressions, 
and positions the cursor at the right spot:

i -> \int_{}^{} , positions the cursor inside the first set of brackets
s -> \sin\left(  \right), positions the cursor after the "("
a -> \begin{aligned}  \end{aligned} , for blocks of several equations 


There's a lot more, those are just some examples. This allows me to write 
latex equations/notes extremely fast, and is the only way I found to keep 
up the pace of a lecture.

* Write a script or find some way to speedup the image import process. 
That's something I complained about several times before here, inserting 
images is sooo clunky in TW and completely disrupts the notetaking flow.

With a combination of the keyboard shortcut program above and some bash 
scripting, I now have a keyboard shortcut that allows me to capture a 
screenshot of the area I need, save it in the TW folder with a random name, 
generate the corresponding .meta tiddly file, and put the corresponding  
`[img[img_name]]` in my clipboard so that I can paste it inside my tiddly. 
It now takes me less than a second to insert images in my notes.

* Define some tiddlywiki macros for stuff like "definition", "example", 
"important", etc. an associate them to keyboard shortcuts so you can take 
structured notes without losing too much time for it.

* Find the right level of "graining" for your tiddly's. I initially split 
my notes into very, very small chunks (tiddlys) but I found that to be 
counter-productive. My heuristic is now "will I ever need to link to this 
concept on its own ?" . If yes, it goes into a tiddly. Otherwise, just 
include inside the "parent" tiddly.


That's what comes to mind now.

If you work on macOS, feel free to message me, I will be happy to send you 
the macros/scripts that I have.




Le mercredi 2 janvier 2019 16:42:49 UTC+1, Evžen Wybitul a écrit :
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I 
> planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can 
> see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could 
> use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and 
> tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have 
> a question, though:
>
> *How should I start?*
>
> There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers, 
> themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the 
> most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway? 
> I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I 
> need it. The question could be phrased differently:
>
> *How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins, 
> which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*
>
> I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this 
> group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.
>

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[tw5] Re: Can I stitch Tiddlers together for printing?

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Right. There are two issues...

1 -- assembling that which is to be printed;

2 -- print formatting.

I suggest you look to BTC's PrintRiver for a solution to both: 
http://printriver.tiddlyspot.com

Best wishes
Josiah

Sebastian Heyneman wrote:
>
> I'd like to print a number of Tiddlers. I loaded my tiddlywiki file into 
> google chrome for printing.
>
> My goal is to get each tiddler printed on a new page.
>

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[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
S.S. & Tony M.

As far as "widgets" go I have a specific view as an idiot.

I need (1) simple examples; (2) more complex examples that build from 1.

I think you begin to understand them better when you SEE them working.

My tuppence.
Josiah

S. S. wrote:
>
> TonyM - thanks for getting it started!
>
> *The question asked was:* *can you please give me a simpler explanation 
> of what is meant by "a Widget"?*
>

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[tw5] Re: Widgets for Dummies

2019-01-07 Thread S. S.
TonyM - thanks for getting it started!

*The question asked was:* *can you please give me a simpler explanation of 
what is meant by "a Widget"?*

I was hoping this would be an easy question to answer for experienced 
users. 

This is what I have so far ...

Widgets form the processing heart of TiddlyWiki.

Widgets can be considered TiddlyWiki's personalized extension of HTML, to 
perform tasks specific to the needs of TiddlyWiki's user's needs and 
experience.

They are used for tasks such as to:

   - create variables and complex short cuts (macros)
   - create buttons, check-boxes, and radio buttons
   - create, delete, modify, open & close tiddlers
   - edit text and images
   - display and manipulate your material (such as text, images, videos)
   - display and move to specific areas
   - ??
   - and much much more

...


a little help would be appreciated !


Thanks

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Not me.

I hear you. 

Its part of the general problem of The Great Solution NO ONE CAN FIND in a 
working form :-)

Siniy-Kit wrote:
>
> Nobody understand me, and i continue talking with myself :) 
>

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[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Diego

It's an interesting example.

At base, I guess, part of the TW "oomph" is its central commit to 
independence from server ("single file forever"--*waves flag*).

But then we get the residual issue of stuff servers have well 
developed--basically "interaction"--gets more difficult.

I'm not good technically. But My general take is TW has a "PHONE-HOME" 
problem.

I think Jed's server Bob version is very interesting for suggestively 
bridging the gap.

Just rambling
Josiah

Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Many people are talking about "Notion" these days, as a replacement for 
> their evernote. Just wanted to let the community know about it:
>
> https://www.notion.so/
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_mh91IRLL8
>
> And see if there are any ideas we can learn from them? 
>

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[tw5] Re: Useful Lessons from the "Competition"

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Diego

Small point on Hacker News.

Its interesting to read sometimes. TW does come up from time to time. The 
discussions I have seen give it a bit of airage. But I don't think there 
are enough commentators on there who really understand it well enough to 
depict the difference.

Part is the issue is that calling it a "wiki" tends, IMO, to diminish 
understanding. Yes, it IS a wiki system. But its modus operandi is, as far 
as I can see, is very different than most wiki. And explaining that 
"difference" matters to understanding it.

Just thoughts
Josiah

Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Also I frequently read Hacker News, and today someone asked:
>
> "Ask HN: How do you keep track of your creative thoughts?"
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18837345
>
> As of this writing, TW is only mentioned once. 
>
> What do you all think?
>

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[tw5] Re: Main problem of TiddlyWiki site - is bad Google indexation.

2019-01-07 Thread Siniy-Kit
Nobody understand me, and i continue talking with myself :) 

I want to see new webDAV (or ftp auto synchronization by TiddlyDesktop) 
*multipage* Tiddlywiki CMS 6.0.0  so we need all Tiddlywiki plugins, 
TOC, $tw.modal.display, $tw.wiki.addTiddler, $tw.notifier.display and *SEARCH 
*in ALL tiddlers work in *multipage* Tiddlywiki.

I can modify TOC macro to pure CSS view.   I can "duplicate" TW js modules, 
so  they start work in *multipage. *But...

Long ago I write javascript Cart  for tiddlywiki, so we can use it for 
creating on-line store. This module can work both in onepage and multipage 
Tiddlywiki.

For example Here my multipage Tiddlywiki javascript Cart 
 and here the same view one page Tiddlywiki 
 and zip 

 Google can index only  multipage .

We have https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlyDesktop  it will be 
great, if TiddlyDesktop can generate many static pages and upload them to 
ftp hosting  using login and password.  Now  I use Node.js to generate 
pages and filezilla to upload them.




воскресенье, 30 декабря 2018 г., 9:26:47 UTC+3 пользователь Siniy-Kit 
написал:
>
> For example open Google and write "This plugin adds the ability to 
> display mathematical notation written in LaTeX."  
>
> I see tiddlywiki.com only on 7 position (not too good) in my national 
> search it  is on first position.  if we click this position we will see 
> this https://tiddlywiki.com/static/KaTeX%2520Plugin.html  very nice 
> static page with 2 links. First link to tiddlywiki.com and second link to 
> 404 "file not find"  
>
> TiddlyWiki is great, but "static" mechanism is very old. 
> First of all this page https://tiddlywiki.com/static/KaTeX%2520Plugin.html 
> must have right menu.
> And the  second -  all links in "static" pages must look like  https://tiddlywiki.com/static/KaTeX%2520Plugin.html; onclick=
> "window.open('https://tiddlywiki.com/#KaTeX%20Plugin')"">KaTeX Plugin 
>
>
> Google will index this link in a proper way, and people will see main 
> tiddlywiki.com after click on any link.
>

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[tw5] Re: Query -- What are your favourite TiddlyWiki in the wild?

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Nice one!

It's interesting to see TW developed though to functional utility for 
purpose (rather than for [necessarily] delimited demos).

I'm convinced there are loads of them in the wild. I hope over time we can 
track done more of them.

J.

On Monday, 7 January 2019 07:48:38 UTC+1, h0p3 wrote:
>
> * https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/tpg-qzVbWFw
> * https://philosopher.life/#2019.01.06%20-%20TWGGF%3A%20Wikis
>
> ---
>
> https://sphygm.us/
>
> I visit her wiki all the time.
>
> I've [[been thinking|2018.11.21 - Sphygmus: Thanksgiving]] about whether 
> or not I should say anything. I would like to nominate some version of 
> [[Sphygmus]]' wiki's flexbox to be incorporated into the default empty 
> tiddlywiki. It looks and functions better out of the box than vanilla. I 
> think her experience should be the default, and I think more people would 
> use TW if they opened their first wiki and sat in her driver's seat.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 8:42:26 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> It would be nice to create a solid library of example TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> What are your favourites?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Simple Android App for TiddlyWiki

2019-01-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Looking good ... !

I thought it interesting how you used bits of the TiddlyDesktop type 
menuing. 

The ways of making new wiki looks v. good.

Interested to see where it all arrives.

Best wishes
J
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On Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:46:59 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
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> Hi @all interested in the progress I'm making with the Äpp,
>
> I've put a screen recording online which just shows where it's going:
>
> https://youtu.be/L9OLPcDHbyo
>
>
> BTC
>

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