date:20190122

New Version test

After installing the app and opening two wikis, I can return to the file 
list and the wikis.

After closing the App (Current apps swipe right) , and Returning the names 
persist, but clicking on them generates.

Web page not available

The Web page at file://null could not be loaded because:

net:ERR_FIELD_NOT_FOUND 

I can no longer browse to the first two wikis in the list without the above 
message, or open them again , but I can add more and they open.

I restarted my phone, now all 4 in the list open with the above error. ie 
The app is sensitive to closure and cant reopen the listed wikis.

As before I can open my .tw file, but only see it as text. Just under the 
head it says 

this is still exposed the the above problem.

I hate to bring bad news, but hope it helps.
Android 8.0.0

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 4:03:19 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Looks like the persistence wasn't persistent enough. I've updated the 
> assets with a new apk which seemed to work during emulator testing. It 
> should also prevent roaming away from the TW file, but I didn't get to test 
> that.  The system file picker options may be reduced, only showing HTML/HTM.
>
> @Tony Not sure what to do with the geolocation file? What does it do?
>
> The problem with inventing mime types is that Android doesn't know 
> anything about them. Out of the box, the System explorer/picker doesn't 
> want to obey suggested new mime types. It will take some time to see if 
> there's any work around.
>
> Thanks for your feedback everyone!
> -- Mark
>
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

Mark,

I will review the update soon. 

The Geolocation file if installed in noteself as an example, will allow a 
button press to populate the tiddler fields with GPS/Geolocation data. 
Basically it obtains the location from the phone (as it does my desktop). 
Perhaps I need to grant Quinoid these rights.

I liked the previous ability to open text files.

No need to create new mime types as I understand it, just allow Quinoid to 
treat .tw files as html, in fact FireFox already does so, presumably as it 
opens the file, and it reads the mime type from the file?

Best effort only for my suggestions, we can always look at it in the future.

Thanks mark

On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 4:03:19 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Looks like the persistence wasn't persistent enough. I've updated the 
> assets with a new apk which seemed to work during emulator testing. It 
> should also prevent roaming away from the TW file, but I didn't get to test 
> that.  The system file picker options may be reduced, only showing HTML/HTM.
>
> @Tony Not sure what to do with the geolocation file? What does it do?
>
> The problem with inventing mime types is that Android doesn't know 
> anything about them. Out of the box, the System explorer/picker doesn't 
> want to obey suggested new mime types. It will take some time to see if 
> there's any work around.
>
> Thanks for your feedback everyone!
> -- Mark
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

2019-01-22 Thread Kalmir

DevonThink app should be really good at this:

"One of the key features of DevonThink Pro Office is its smart searching 
algorithms, its ability to suggest similar texts based on the contents of what 
you are looking at, etc. It does this by means of a proprietary algorithm, so I 
can't really tell you how it works, but just know that it does. It works best 
on smaller chunks of text. In this way, I was reading through a particular 
source from the 3 million-word-strong Taliban Sources Project database and then 
I clicked the "See also" button and it had found a source I would never 
otherwise have read on the same topic, even though it didn't even use one of 
the keywords I would have used to search for it. It uses semantic webs of words 
to figure this stuff out." - Alex Strick 
(https://www.alexstrick.com/blog/PhD-tools-DevonThink) 

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

2019-01-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Hi everyone,

Looks like the persistence wasn't persistent enough. I've updated the 
assets with a new apk which seemed to work during emulator testing. It 
should also prevent roaming away from the TW file, but I didn't get to test 
that.  The system file picker options may be reduced, only showing HTML/HTM.

@Tony Not sure what to do with the geolocation file? What does it do?

The problem with inventing mime types is that Android doesn't know anything 
about them. Out of the box, the System explorer/picker doesn't want to obey 
suggested new mime types. It will take some time to see if there's any work 
around.

Thanks for your feedback everyone!
-- Mark

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[tw5] Installing the vim keymapping with the Code Mirror Editor Plugin 5.1.19 on TW5 5.1.19?

2019-01-22 Thread leeand00


I have TiddlyWiki version 5.1.19 and The CodeMirror_Editor plugin 5.1.19

Now I dug real deep into Jerome's repo and I found the vim keymap plugin 
here: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror-keymap-vim

But it appears that sublime text has surplanted vim/emacs as the most 
popular one...I tried installing the tiddlers manually but I get a 
Javascript error, is it possible I'm using the wrong versions of these that 
are incompatible with each other...

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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

Hi Tony,
 Many thanks for your contribution.
It is added to TW-Scripts.

Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid


>
> Hi Mark,
>
 Everything works as expected
 

   1. Open local wiki: OK
   2. Open Google drive wiki: OK
   3. Show wiki names on return: OK
   4. File list on completely exit from Quinoid and reopen again: FAILS

So, on exit-open no file list is available

Android 9


-Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Font family

Damon,

Control Panel > Info > Advanced  > Stylesheets

Shows the order, and using the tag pill therein you can drag and drop the 
order to reorder them.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 2:01:21 PM UTC+11, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> I'm having some issues with using "Theme Tweaks" to change the font family 
> in my TW. I can change the font family or have it blank and my tiddlers do 
> not change their appearance. The editor font changes fine. This is also 
> independent of which browser I'm using. I'm thinking that there is a 
> stylesheet somewhere that is setting or overriding these fonts. How can I 
> figure out which one is getting the final word?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>

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[tw5] Font family

2019-01-22 Thread Damon Pritchett

I'm having some issues with using "Theme Tweaks" to change the font family 
in my TW. I can change the font family or have it blank and my tiddlers do 
not change their appearance. The editor font changes fine. This is also 
independent of which browser I'm using. I'm thinking that there is a 
stylesheet somewhere that is setting or overriding these fonts. How can I 
figure out which one is getting the final word?

Thanks,

Damon

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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

2019-01-22 Thread Rob Hoelz

That's a neat trick involving compression, Joe - I wonder if you could 
adapt a locality sensitive hash like simhash to create a specialized index 
for quick comparisons?

Another thing that your mention of rsync reminded me of is word embeddings, 
in particular the latest and greatest in that field, such as fasttext and 
ELMo.  Both of those algorithms use a large window of character n-grams 
(rather than individual words), which is kind of like rsync's rolling 
checksum, and their resulting models would allow for statements like "the 
dog jumped over the fox" to compare similarly to "the collie leapt over the 
vixen".

I'm really excited to watch your approach on entropy evolve over time!

-Rob

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 5:46:07 AM UTC-6, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> YES - For a very long time I've wanted an assistant that watches what I do 
> and helps me - this is my
> ultimate goal.
>
> I want to reduce entropy - I want to discover similar tiddlers and merge 
> them to reduce entropy.
>
> I have been thinking about how to do this for 30 odd years (not for 
> tiddlers - but for text representing ideas)
>
> When I make a new tiddler I ask myself "Have I done this or something like 
> this before" - or "has anybody else done this"
>
> I know of one good algorithm for this.
>
> I make a new tiddler T and want to find the most similar tiddler to T in a 
> collection of tiddlers.
>
> For this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalized_compression_distance is 
> very good.
>
> This is very simple   A is similar to B if
> size(compress(A ++ B)) is just a bit larger than size(compress(A))
>
> If size(compress(A++B)) > size(compress(A)) + size(compress(B)) then A and 
> B are very dissimilar
>
> ++ is concatination.
>
> Why is this? compression algorithms look for similarities between 
> different parts of a text - 
> they work well when they find similarities.
>
> This is a crazy good algorithm - I gave it all the paragraphs in a book 
> I'd written - typed a new paragraph and it ranks
> any similar paragraphs it can find. 
>
> The problem is that it's very inefficient - if I had a few million 
> tiddlers it would be way too slow.
>
> My next idea would be to use the rsync algorithm for plagiarism detection. 
> This 
> is linear in the number of character of the new tiddler - it  finds short 
> fragments of identical text
> very very quickly - this is why Universities etc use it to detect cheating 
> students.
>
> So I'd propose using rsync to make a set of candidate tiddlers then least 
> compression difference
> to rank the candidates.
>
> Could also use TD*IDF similarity to make candidates.
>
> Ultimately I'd like to find all paragraphs in the planet name them by 
> their SHA checksums
> then put them into an entropy reduction machine that finds similarities 
> and throws out
> duplicates and near matching data.
>
> It seems to me that intelligence is partly the ability to recognise 
> similarities between things
> so I think an entropy reduction machine would be great.
>
> What attracted me to the TW in the first place was the granularity of the 
> tiddlers.
>
> They must be not to small and not too big and capture a single idea - 
> there's
> a Swedish word for this "Lagom" - that and transclusion to combine ideas 
> are
> fundamental to building build large structures by combining smaller things.
>
> The problem with search engines is that you have to think up a query.
>
> In similarity detection what you have written becomes the query - and you 
> ask
> "what is the most similar thing you can find to "
>
> This topic has fascinated me for years - I view entropy reduction as one 
> of the key
> unsolved problems in computer science
>
> Cheers
>
> /Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 05:27:56 UTC+1, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>>
>> Again, thanks for sharing, Joe!  I looked through the PDF and had a few 
>> thoughts:
>>
>>   * Did you do any additional processing of the tiddler bodies, eg. 
>> stemming, chunking into bigrams/trigrams, or stripping out various wikitext 
>> elements like URLs?  If you did, I'd be curious to hear how that affected 
>> your results!
>>   * During the talk, you mention the idea of an "assistant" that sits off 
>> to the side and helps you work on tiddlers as you type.  I often think that 
>> it would be helpful if TiddlyWiki offered me suggestions for tiddlers that 
>> might be related to what I'm currently writing, and I think perhaps your 
>> TF-IDF "significant term" detection approach might make for a step in the 
>> right direction.  Perhaps the top N TF-IDF terms for each tiddler could be 
>> encoded as a vector, and tiddlers whose vectors have the highest cosine 
>> similarity could be offered as matches in this regard - what do you think?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 12:03:09 PM UTC-6, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Joe!  I'll read over that PDF you sent over; as far as the code 
>>> goes, I think the PDF documentation describing the methodo

[tw5] Re: Errors in IE when saving.

2019-01-22 Thread S. S.

In case Tony's method is a fix, here are clearer instructions on changing 
the file name when saving: Hidden Setting: Filename for Save Wiki Button 

 



On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:59:04 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jenifer,
>
> I do not have the answer yet, as I avoid IE and have not seen this, but it 
> needs to work ion all browsers. There are changes in recent releases 
> allowing the filename of the saved wiki to be set. 
>
> V5.1.19 Fixed  
> incompatible change to the construction of filename used for saving
> V5.1.18 Improved 
> 
>  
> saving to use the $:/SiteTitle 
>  as the basis of the filename
>
> I expect you may have found a bug, but there possibly is a simple work 
> around by setting the preferred filename.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 11:33:31 AM UTC+11, Jennifer Pritchard 
> wrote:
>>
>> So I've given up on the node.js debacle (godaddy is not my friend right 
>> now) and have switched gears to use the php version instead.  I've got it 
>> working perfectly in Chrome, but get problems in IE when trying to save 
>> while NOT logged in.
>>
>> When I go to save the page in IE, it tries to save the file locally (as 
>> expected), but gives an error saying 
>> "randomlonggeneratedlettersandnumbers.htm couldn't be downloaded" and 
>> there's no other information I can find about why.
>>
>> So then I wondered if maybe TW-Receiver could help, but not only did it 
>> not solve the original problem, but now it pops up this message: 
>> "TW-Receiver error "Missing some user input parameters. Save Failed".
>>
>> Again, as far as I can tell, this is just IE (since it won't get me do 
>> anything else there, I can't try logging in to see if that helps or not, so 
>> for right now all I can say for sure is that it's when the unauthenticated 
>> viewers try to save.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Errors in IE when saving.

Jenifer,

I do not have the answer yet, as I avoid IE and have not seen this, but it 
needs to work ion all browsers. There are changes in recent releases 
allowing the filename of the saved wiki to be set. 

V5.1.19 Fixed  
incompatible change to the construction of filename used for saving
V5.1.18 Improved 

 
saving to use the $:/SiteTitle  
as the basis of the filename

I expect you may have found a bug, but there possibly is a simple work 
around by setting the preferred filename.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 11:33:31 AM UTC+11, Jennifer Pritchard 
wrote:
>
> So I've given up on the node.js debacle (godaddy is not my friend right 
> now) and have switched gears to use the php version instead.  I've got it 
> working perfectly in Chrome, but get problems in IE when trying to save 
> while NOT logged in.
>
> When I go to save the page in IE, it tries to save the file locally (as 
> expected), but gives an error saying 
> "randomlonggeneratedlettersandnumbers.htm couldn't be downloaded" and 
> there's no other information I can find about why.
>
> So then I wondered if maybe TW-Receiver could help, but not only did it 
> not solve the original problem, but now it pops up this message: 
> "TW-Receiver error "Missing some user input parameters. Save Failed".
>
> Again, as far as I can tell, this is just IE (since it won't get me do 
> anything else there, I can't try logging in to see if that helps or not, so 
> for right now all I can say for sure is that it's when the unauthenticated 
> viewers try to save.
>

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[tw5] Errors in IE when saving.

2019-01-22 Thread Jennifer Pritchard

So I've given up on the node.js debacle (godaddy is not my friend right 
now) and have switched gears to use the php version instead.  I've got it 
working perfectly in Chrome, but get problems in IE when trying to save 
while NOT logged in.

When I go to save the page in IE, it tries to save the file locally (as 
expected), but gives an error saying 
"randomlonggeneratedlettersandnumbers.htm couldn't be downloaded" and 
there's no other information I can find about why.

So then I wondered if maybe TW-Receiver could help, but not only did it not 
solve the original problem, but now it pops up this message: "TW-Receiver 
error "Missing some user input parameters. Save Failed".

Again, as far as I can tell, this is just IE (since it won't get me do 
anything else there, I can't try logging in to see if that helps or not, so 
for right now all I can say for sure is that it's when the unauthenticated 
viewers try to save.

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Re: [tw5] Re: So overwhelmed...node.js on a godaddy shared hosting site?

Jennifer,

Understood, I expected that would be the case from my first reply. I do 
feel there should be a way to allow a given user to check out and check in 
the edit process, so we can have serial editors if we can't have multi-user 
access. If this were so tw-receiver, some user management and the checking 
tools would be all many possible applications would require.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 11:22:15 AM UTC+11, Jennifer Pritchard 
wrote:
>
> Well, for now I think I'm going to give in and go the php route using 
> tw-receiver (which I've now got working, except in IE, so that will be a 
> seperate post).  Thanks for your help!
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:22:27 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Jennifer,
>>
>> I could offer you some well priced hosting however I am in Sydney 
>> Australia, and using a CDN content delivery network may be OK, but you 
>> should find some cost effective local servers. However at the moment the 
>> Australian Dollar is not so good, so perhaps it would be cost effective in 
>> Australian Dollars. My Wholesale provider is https://ventraip.com.au/ 
>> however I have capacity under my current plan for an additional 65 control 
>> panel accounts so I could offer you something cheaper. 
>>
>> Any way look around and ask if you are stuck. PS we had some family 
>> friends with the Pritchard name many years ago. 
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:03:58 UTC+11, Jennifer Pritchard wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in Seattle (US) 
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: So overwhelmed...node.js on a godaddy shared hosting site?

2019-01-22 Thread Jennifer Pritchard

Well, for now I think I'm going to give in and go the php route using 
tw-receiver (which I've now got working, except in IE, so that will be a 
seperate post).  Thanks for your help!

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 10:22:27 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jennifer,
>
> I could offer you some well priced hosting however I am in Sydney 
> Australia, and using a CDN content delivery network may be OK, but you 
> should find some cost effective local servers. However at the moment the 
> Australian Dollar is not so good, so perhaps it would be cost effective in 
> Australian Dollars. My Wholesale provider is https://ventraip.com.au/ 
> however I have capacity under my current plan for an additional 65 control 
> panel accounts so I could offer you something cheaper. 
>
> Any way look around and ask if you are stuck. PS we had some family 
> friends with the Pritchard name many years ago. 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:03:58 UTC+11, Jennifer Pritchard wrote:
>>
>> I'm in Seattle (US) 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

Joe,

We share the same aims, and as an experienced information/knowledge 
management professional I look forward to us finding effective tools to 
make these "inferences" using software and I am keen to contribute to this 
as well. 

Though given my own experience in this, I also find that every piece of 
data information can be found in some context and if we preserve this 
context when saving it, we capture a great deal of "metadata". First this 
is like saying "if we know exactly how to store something, then we will 
most likely know how to retrieve it". This allows for algorithms that mere 
humans can use, but also sets us up with a richer data source that out 
automation can query. 

One idea to keep in mind, it TiddlyWiki can readily export and import 
tiddlers, so it would be trivial to hand of a large number of tiddlers to a 
powerful knowledge processor and either alter and re-import tiddlers and/or 
return new tiddlers that capture the relationships found (Perhaps after 
determining hidden relationships). 

TiddlyWiki really is a platform and it is very easy to see boxes that 
proscribe its function, when in fact there are a multitude of dimensions in 
TiddlyWiki in which it can "look outside" its apparent boxes.

When running on top of nodeJS, tiddlers are files, and I believe if you 
found the tools in JavaScript you may be able to adapt them to operate on 
tiddlers even without the Export/Import steps. TiddlyWiki would be the 
portal to look at your data but your data could have a life independent of 
how you look at it.

Keep having such conversations please.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 10:46:07 PM UTC+11, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> YES - For a very long time I've wanted an assistant that watches what I do 
> and helps me - this is my
> ultimate goal.
>
> I want to reduce entropy - I want to discover similar tiddlers and merge 
> them to reduce entropy.
>
> I have been thinking about how to do this for 30 odd years (not for 
> tiddlers - but for text representing ideas)
>
> When I make a new tiddler I ask myself "Have I done this or something like 
> this before" - or "has anybody else done this"
>
> I know of one good algorithm for this.
>
> I make a new tiddler T and want to find the most similar tiddler to T in a 
> collection of tiddlers.
>
> For this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalized_compression_distance is 
> very good.
>
> This is very simple   A is similar to B if
> size(compress(A ++ B)) is just a bit larger than size(compress(A))
>
> If size(compress(A++B)) > size(compress(A)) + size(compress(B)) then A and 
> B are very dissimilar
>
> ++ is concatination.
>
> Why is this? compression algorithms look for similarities between 
> different parts of a text - 
> they work well when they find similarities.
>
> This is a crazy good algorithm - I gave it all the paragraphs in a book 
> I'd written - typed a new paragraph and it ranks
> any similar paragraphs it can find. 
>
> The problem is that it's very inefficient - if I had a few million 
> tiddlers it would be way too slow.
>
> My next idea would be to use the rsync algorithm for plagiarism detection. 
> This 
> is linear in the number of character of the new tiddler - it  finds short 
> fragments of identical text
> very very quickly - this is why Universities etc use it to detect cheating 
> students.
>
> So I'd propose using rsync to make a set of candidate tiddlers then least 
> compression difference
> to rank the candidates.
>
> Could also use TD*IDF similarity to make candidates.
>
> Ultimately I'd like to find all paragraphs in the planet name them by 
> their SHA checksums
> then put them into an entropy reduction machine that finds similarities 
> and throws out
> duplicates and near matching data.
>
> It seems to me that intelligence is partly the ability to recognise 
> similarities between things
> so I think an entropy reduction machine would be great.
>
> What attracted me to the TW in the first place was the granularity of the 
> tiddlers.
>
> They must be not to small and not too big and capture a single idea - 
> there's
> a Swedish word for this "Lagom" - that and transclusion to combine ideas 
> are
> fundamental to building build large structures by combining smaller things.
>
> The problem with search engines is that you have to think up a query.
>
> In similarity detection what you have written becomes the query - and you 
> ask
> "what is the most similar thing you can find to "
>
> This topic has fascinated me for years - I view entropy reduction as one 
> of the key
> unsolved problems in computer science
>
> Cheers
>
> /Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 05:27:56 UTC+1, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>>
>> Again, thanks for sharing, Joe!  I looked through the PDF and had a few 
>> thoughts:
>>
>>   * Did you do any additional processing of the tiddler bodies, eg. 
>> stemming, chunking into bigrams/trigrams, or stripping out various wikitext 
>> elements like URLs?  If you did,

[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

Mohammad,

My Previous contribution to the scripts is in fact a demo of the first of a 
set of possible batch manipulation examples.

Here are a few more that illustrate the examples you are looking for, it is 
simply a matter of changing the selection filter and the action widget. Som 
action widgets have the $filter parameter, others do not and you need a 
list.

<$list filter="[has[dummy]]">

<$button>
<$action-deletetiddler $filter="[tag[dummy]]"/>
Delete Tiddlers tagged

<$list filter="[has[dummy]]">

<$button>
<$list filter="[has[dummy]]">
<$action-deletefield $field="dummy"/>

Delete Field in tiddler

<$button>
<$action-deletetiddler $filter="[has[dummy]]"/>
Delete Tiddlers with field

Whilst this shows the code if we were to package it for new users, not 
people learning tiddlywiki, we would always ensure we list what the button 
will effect. Make a macro and enable the filter to be passed (not hard 
coded). 

It would be quite easy to make a large set of these and make them available 
for almost every conceivable batch action, however if we are to go down 
this path we should decide exactly what we will provide so we can do it 
consistently and not face rework later.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:39:23 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> One question frequently raised by newbies is batch operation e.g how to 
> tag all tiddlers have certain title, ...
>
> I am preparing a section in TW-Scripts 
>  called Batch Operation
> Batch operation means do operation on all tiddlers meet certain criteria.
>
> *Certain criteria means like below*
>
>
>-  all have special tag
>-  all have certain field
>-  all have certain words in their title
>- ...
>
> Operation means
>
> - Delete all tiddlers meet certain criteria
> - Delete a certain field from all tiddlers tagged e.g. myTag
> - Add a new tag to all tiddler has certain words in their title
> - ...
>
> please help to complete this section. Give your idea on batch operation, 
> and certain criteria can be done with TW
>
> How do you like to arrange different parts in this section?
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

Mark

Some experiences

   - The System Explorer is working for me, I can now open files from all 
   over nice work.
   - Opening multiple files/wikis from the selection works (nice)
   - Opening a json file allows you to browse it 
   - I tested opening *.tw files (as mentioned elsewhere) they open as raw 
   text and can be swiped to
   - I tested opening *.txt files they open as raw text and are available 
   to read, select and copy, when swiping in Quinoid, I quite like this. Text 
   content can be viewed then selected and pasted into active Wiki in Quinoid.
   - If I use Left triangle on phone to exit, the app remains in memory and 
   reopens with the list of wikis previously selected, If in the display of 
   active applications I swipe right to unload the app, when I return the list 
   of previous wikis is lost.
   - Selecting import does nothing.
   - Geolocation - I have a json file with geolocation Attached, I returned 
   to desktop to do this. Throws an Internal Javascript error on Quinoid when 
   pressing the get location button.
   - Selecting Export  saves the wiki but nothing else

I have used the material theme on TW5 5.1.14 and 5.1.19 and it works 
nicely, however I believe some more design work is needed to make it easier 
for mobile use. The value of a lot of things in the side bar diminishes 
when operating on mobile.

*Feature request?*
Have a naming standard for a tiddlywiki such as quinoid.html such that if 
it exists in Documents, on first launch of Quinoid this is opened and 
displayed so that a form of index.html is available. Other listed wikis can 
then be accessed by swipe, Using back will then return to the list of other 
wikis. 

Summary: Looking really good and a long way already, and is already 
practical to use as is (Except for loss of wiki list) 

Thanks a lot for this

Tony


On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 06:18:38 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Another release. This will erase your existing list of files (because I 
> changed the internal persistent storage model), but allow persistence in 
> titles. So once you have visited and browsed a page and gone back to the 
> list, the list should show your TW file. And the name should be there the 
> next time your restart Quinoid.
>
> As always, this is a work-in-progress. Be careful. Back up your files 
> before using.
>
> This version adds persistence for titles (title information only appears 
> the first time after you have browsed the page). The bad news is that you 
> will lose your existing file list and have to recreate it.
>
> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.4alpha
>

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get-geo-location.bundle.json
Description: application/json

Hi Mark
Installed ok.
Selected and loaded a wiki from internal storage ok.
Opened wiki, saved a tiddler ok.
Went back to file list and file name's still off - displays as 'mywiki:
fullfilepath...mywiki.html' The ... are in the displayed name, indicating
truncation of long filepath name.

Exited Quinoid, closed completely, re-opened - nothing in filelist. Files not
persistent.

Another discovery - if I add a wiki to Quinoid, open it, make a new tid with an
link in it to another wiki on the phone (that isn't loaded in Quinoid)
the link works and opens the unlisted wiki. Its name replaces the originally
listed wiki in the Quinoid list. If I then save a tiddler in this replacement
wiki from within Quinoid it is saved, but with the original wiki filename. i.e
it overwrites the original wiki but keeps its filename. (The original listed
wiki was on an external sd card).

Obviously I'm trying to break it, but it's probably not how you want it. BTC's
aTW did something similar in an early version but I don't know if he sorted it
out.

Anyway, thanks for the hard work, hope this makes sense.

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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

Hi Jeremy. That works perfectly. Now I just have to unpack it and figure 
out *how* it works!

Thanks very much for your help with this. I figured there was a more 
elegant solution, but never would have figured that one out on my own.

David.

On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:28:54 UTC+9:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi David
>
> Great, that makes sense. One approach would be something like this:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[InstalledPlugin]sort[title]]">
>
> ! <$list filter="[enlist{!!plugin.names}]" variable="name"><$text 
> text=<>/>, 
>
> {{!!text}}
>
> 
>
> The problem is that it will include a trailing comma after the final 
> plugin name. Fixing that makes things a bit more complicated:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[InstalledPlugin]sort[title]]">
>
> ! <$list filter="[enlist{!!plugin.names}]" variable="name"><$text 
> text=<>/><$list filter="[enlist{!!plugin.names}last[]] -[]">, 
> 
>
> {{!!text}}
>
> 
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 22 Jan 2019, at 12:39, David Nebauer > 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> The first thing I do when I delve into an app I am going to both devote 
> significant effort to and customise heavily, is document those 
> customisations so I can rebuild the same environment from scratch. In the 
> case of tiddlywiki I'm naturally documenting my customisations in 
> tiddlywiki! These include the non-offical plugins I'm installing. For each 
> plugin I create a tiddler decribing the plugin source, why I installed it, 
> any configuration, and any other plugins it is dependent on. These tiddlers 
> are tagged 'InstalledPlugin' and each has a field called 'plugin.names'. 
> This field contains the name of the plugin(s) document in that tiddler, 
> e.g., '[[Setvars]' and '[[Date Picker]] [[Moment]]'. The tiddlerscript is 
> designed to concatenate all these plugin-describing tiddlers into a single 
> tiddler, with each individual source tiddler represented by a heading 
> consisting of the plugin names from the field joined by commas, and 
> followed by the wikified content of the tiddler itself, e.g.,
>
> -
>
> Plugin A, Plugin B
>
> My wikified description of these plugins.
>
> Plugin C
>
> My wikified description of this plugin.
>
> -
>
> I hope that made the purpose of my tiddlyscript clearer.
>
> David.
>
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 06:45:58 UTC+9:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi David
>>
>> Can you show the output you’re trying to obtain and show the fields 
>> you’re using of the tiddlers tagged InstalledPlugins?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> jeremy.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

2019-01-22 Thread Dave

 This is probably a really dumb question, but I just saw that Quinoid can 
work with google drive TWs, and I just googled "Google Drive Nodejs" and 
there does seem to be some node APIs for google drive...

What's the possibility that you can set up a Bob instance on Google Drive 
and access it through Quinoid (and also from a desktop browser)?  I know 
Bob's not your thing, but thought you might know either way (seeing as 
you're Tiddly Smart ;)

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid

2019-01-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Another release. This will erase your existing list of files (because I 
changed the internal persistent storage model), but allow persistence in 
titles. So once you have visited and browsed a page and gone back to the 
list, the list should show your TW file. And the name should be there the 
next time your restart Quinoid.

As always, this is a work-in-progress. Be careful. Back up your files 
before using.

This version adds persistence for titles (title information only appears 
the first time after you have browsed the page). The bad news is that you 
will lose your existing file list and have to recreate it.

https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.4alpha

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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

Hello S.S,
No problem, I will remove the link.

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 8:35:56 PM UTC+3:30, S. S. wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Please allow me to request you not to make any lasting links to 
> https://00ss.github.io/help/Adding-a-table-of-contents-to-the-sidebar.html
> That TiddlyWiki is just a working copy of tiddlers that are being made for 
> discussion so that they can be used as a set of beginner's Introduction on 
> the official tiddlywiki.com website.
> Once they are included there, that TiddlyWiki will serve no purpose any 
> more.
>
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 8:37:23 PM UTC+7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hello S.S.
>> Many thanks for your comments. I absolutely will use them. Also I made a 
>> link to the valuable tutorial (manual) you prepared for Tiddlywiki at
>>
>> https://00ss.github.io/help/Adding-a-table-of-contents-to-the-sidebar.html
>>
>>
>> By the way, In TW-Scripts I go through examples. I call it "learn by 
>> example". Here I want to have a section with some tiddlers explaining the 
>> batch operation in TW.
>> So, the table you have given below is quite useful for my case. I am 
>> trying to explain what kind of criteria we can have and what kind of batch 
>> operation we can do!
>>
>> Thank you again.
>> Mohammad
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: feature request: arrow down search results, open with Enter

Diego,

Of course you may share what you have. I just would like to point to the fact 
that Simple Search alone offers full keyboard navigation. Not as streamlined 
and consistent in different browsers maybe, but working perfectly for my 
personal use in Firefox Developer Edition.

This is also the reason why I did not yet dedicate the time to look into the 
combination you suggest.

Happy searching! 
Thomas 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Highlight in bold the dates in the Recent tab

>
> Hi Xabriña

Your explanation was fine, but I did not (want to) understand. Usually
underlined text is a link, that's like a law for me.

So if you absolutely want to do it the other way around, then you can
remove the style from the link again like this:

.tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline a.tc-tiddlylink {
>>text-decoration: *none*;
>> }
>>
>
I would advise against it, but it is doable.

And: there are courses for HTML and CSS on e.g. edx.org, I would personally
recommend the ones by the W3C.

;–)
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

2019-01-22 Thread S. S.

Mohammad,

Please allow me to request you not to make any lasting links to 
https://00ss.github.io/help/Adding-a-table-of-contents-to-the-sidebar.html
That TiddlyWiki is just a working copy of tiddlers that are being made for 
discussion so that they can be used as a set of beginner's Introduction on 
the official tiddlywiki.com website.
Once they are included there, that TiddlyWiki will serve no purpose any 
more.

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 8:37:23 PM UTC+7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hello S.S.
> Many thanks for your comments. I absolutely will use them. Also I made a 
> link to the valuable tutorial (manual) you prepared for Tiddlywiki at
>
> https://00ss.github.io/help/Adding-a-table-of-contents-to-the-sidebar.html
>
>
> By the way, In TW-Scripts I go through examples. I call it "learn by 
> example". Here I want to have a section with some tiddlers explaining the 
> batch operation in TW.
> So, the table you have given below is quite useful for my case. I am 
> trying to explain what kind of criteria we can have and what kind of batch 
> operation we can do!
>
> Thank you again.
> Mohammad
>
>

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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

Hi David

Great, that makes sense. One approach would be something like this:

<$list filter="[tag[InstalledPlugin]sort[title]]">

! <$list filter="[enlist{!!plugin.names}]" variable="name"><$text 
text=<>/>, 

{{!!text}}



The problem is that it will include a trailing comma after the final plugin 
name. Fixing that makes things a bit more complicated:

<$list filter="[tag[InstalledPlugin]sort[title]]">

! <$list filter="[enlist{!!plugin.names}]" variable="name"><$text 
text=<>/><$list filter="[enlist{!!plugin.names}last[]] -[]">, 


{{!!text}}



Best wishes

Jeremy.

> On 22 Jan 2019, at 12:39, David Nebauer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeremy,
> 
> The first thing I do when I delve into an app I am going to both devote 
> significant effort to and customise heavily, is document those customisations 
> so I can rebuild the same environment from scratch. In the case of tiddlywiki 
> I'm naturally documenting my customisations in tiddlywiki! These include the 
> non-offical plugins I'm installing. For each plugin I create a tiddler 
> decribing the plugin source, why I installed it, any configuration, and any 
> other plugins it is dependent on. These tiddlers are tagged 'InstalledPlugin' 
> and each has a field called 'plugin.names'. This field contains the name of 
> the plugin(s) document in that tiddler, e.g., '[[Setvars]' and '[[Date 
> Picker]] [[Moment]]'. The tiddlerscript is designed to concatenate all these 
> plugin-describing tiddlers into a single tiddler, with each individual source 
> tiddler represented by a heading consisting of the plugin names from the 
> field joined by commas, and followed by the wikified content of the tiddler 
> itself, e.g.,
> 
> -
> 
> Plugin A, Plugin B
> 
> My wikified description of these plugins.
> 
> Plugin C
> 
> My wikified description of this plugin.
> 
> -
> 
> I hope that made the purpose of my tiddlyscript clearer.
> 
> David.
> 
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 06:45:58 UTC+9:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi David
> 
> Can you show the output you’re trying to obtain and show the fields you’re 
> using of the tiddlers tagged InstalledPlugins?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> jeremy.
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Re: [tw5] Is re-rendering of tiddlers w/o user interaction possible?

2019-01-22 Thread Hubert

Thank you Jeremy for sharing this. It's a fair point and worth taking into 
consideration (it could negatively sway the cost-benefit ratio in some 
situations).

Best regards,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:46:39 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Hubert
>
> Evan’s plugin is the right thing to use if you can; the core doesn’t 
> include a builtin clock/timer because my early experiments showed that it 
> can be quite punishing on power consumption/battery life.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On 22 Jan 2019, at 14:35, Hubert > wrote:
>
> OK, I've found this plugin 
>  by Evan 
> Balster, version 0.0.1 that does exactly what I'm looking for.
>
> That said, I'd still love to hear your ideas though, especially the 
> background TW mechanics/limitations/other solutions to this problem.
>
> Thank you,
> Hubert
>
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:14:40 UTC, Hubert wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> If I understand correctly, most content within a tiddler is static. 
>> Inline javacript is not allowed, so macros will only re-calculate their 
>> output on user interaction with a tiddler. For example, the <> macro 
>> or Evan Balster's <> macro will recalculate their output when the 
>> built-in "More actions" TW button is pressed (it's located in the 
>> upper-right corner of each tiddler frame).
>>
>> What I'm trying achieve is make stuff happen with time being the trigger. 
>> The simplest example would be building an auto-updating clock using the 
>> <> macro (this could be faked using SVG animations but that's not what 
>> I'm looking for). Another example would be a reveal widget that will 
>> suddenly display content when the current time matches a predefined value 
>> but without any user interaction whatsoever. Such a solution would need to 
>> somehow 'see' on its own that the time has changed. Is this possible?
>>
>> Thank you in advance for sharing your ideas/knowledge.
>>
>> -Hubert
>>
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Re: [tw5] Is re-rendering of tiddlers w/o user interaction possible?

Hi Hubert

Evan’s plugin is the right thing to use if you can; the core doesn’t include a 
builtin clock/timer because my early experiments showed that it can be quite 
punishing on power consumption/battery life.

Best wishes

Jeremy



> On 22 Jan 2019, at 14:35, Hubert  wrote:
> 
> OK, I've found this plugin 
>  by Evan 
> Balster, version 0.0.1 that does exactly what I'm looking for.
> 
> That said, I'd still love to hear your ideas though, especially the 
> background TW mechanics/limitations/other solutions to this problem.
> 
> Thank you,
> Hubert
> 
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:14:40 UTC, Hubert wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> If I understand correctly, most content within a tiddler is static. Inline 
> javacript is not allowed, so macros will only re-calculate their output on 
> user interaction with a tiddler. For example, the <> macro or Evan 
> Balster's <> macro will recalculate their output when the built-in 
> "More actions" TW button is pressed (it's located in the upper-right corner 
> of each tiddler frame).
> 
> What I'm trying achieve is make stuff happen with time being the trigger. The 
> simplest example would be building an auto-updating clock using the <> 
> macro (this could be faked using SVG animations but that's not what I'm 
> looking for). Another example would be a reveal widget that will suddenly 
> display content when the current time matches a predefined value but without 
> any user interaction whatsoever. Such a solution would need to somehow 'see' 
> on its own that the time has changed. Is this possible?
> 
> Thank you in advance for sharing your ideas/knowledge.
> 
> -Hubert
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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

2019-01-22 Thread Dave

Instead of comparing paragraphs or tiddlers, how hard would it be too detect 
unique sentences and compare them?  I guess you'd almost need an AI to do that, 
hey?

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki for Go games diagrams

2019-01-22 Thread stefano franchi

Does anyone know if there is a plugin allowing the visualization of Go 
diagrams (or perhaps even whole Go games)?

Games and diagrams are represented using the SGF format (Smart Game Format 
) and there are several JS 
libraries  for parsing sgf 
files

Oe perhaps just a wikitext extension? (there are such extensions for BB 
code, for instance)

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[tw5] Re: Keystroke to Close Current Tiddler in TW5

2019-01-22 Thread Gabriel Chen

Hi Kevin, 

I was looking for the same solution for a while and found something... 
emmm, sort of cheating. 

   1. My TiddlyWiki story view is "Zoom In", so there is only one tiddler 
   surfaced at one time;
   2. I noticed the tiddler close button [X] always appears at a fix 
   position (X1415, Y220 on my screen), if the tiddler is short (i.e. no 
   scrolling of the window); 
   3. If the tiddler is long, when [Home] key is pressed, the [X] appears 
   are the same position;
   4. AutoHotKey  can be used to send 
   virtual  keystroke and mouse operation (e.g. move the cursor to somewhere 
   and click);
   5. Hence the idea is: once a keystroke (i.e. "Alt + X") is pressed > 
   trigger a piece of AutoHotKey script > Send [Home] key > Move cursor to [X] 
   position > left click

Here is the script, I am using "control + space bar" to fire it: 
; Comment: Use to close tiddler in tiddlywiki
; Comment: Uses [ctrl] + [space] to trigger 
^Space::
SendInput, {Home}
Sleep, 200   ; wait for 0.2s, the page goes up
MouseClick, left, 1415, 220 ;[X] button position in px on the screen
return 


Used commands 

   - SendInput 
   - Sleep 
   - MouseClick 
   
revise "^Space" to your preferred key combination: 

   - 
   - ; ! = Alt
   - ; ^ = Control
   - ; + = Shift
   - ; # = WindowsKey
   - ; other example: [Ctrl] + [Shift] + [a] = ^+a

Hope it helps. ;-) 

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 8:49:36 AM UTC+8, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>
> 99% of the way there.  In addition to what I said before:
>
>- I added tabindex="1" to the div in ViewTemplate.  This makes it 
>possible to select a view-mode tiddler.
>- I wrapped the div with: <$keyboard key="alt-W" 
>message="tm-close-tiddler">
>
> I also had to edit $:/config/Search/AutoFocus (shadow tiddler) and set it 
> to: false
>
> I'm still not there.  Focus often winds up on the document body. 
>  (Verified via running some JavaScript in the browser console.)
>
> I need to add an onFocus to the body, which does a setFocus to the first 
> story div.  The only way I know to do that would be to edit 
> $:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html 
>  .
>
> Can anyone suggest a "tiddlywiki style" way to shift focus from the 
> document body to the first story in the river?
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[tw5] Re: Is re-rendering of tiddlers w/o user interaction possible?

2019-01-22 Thread Hubert

OK, I've found this plugin 
 by Evan 
Balster, version 0.0.1 that does exactly what I'm looking for.

That said, I'd still love to hear your ideas though, especially the 
background TW mechanics/limitations/other solutions to this problem.

Thank you,
Hubert

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:14:40 UTC, Hubert wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> If I understand correctly, most content within a tiddler is static. Inline 
> javacript is not allowed, so macros will only re-calculate their output on 
> user interaction with a tiddler. For example, the <> macro or Evan 
> Balster's <> macro will recalculate their output when the built-in 
> "More actions" TW button is pressed (it's located in the upper-right corner 
> of each tiddler frame).
>
> What I'm trying achieve is make stuff happen with time being the trigger. 
> The simplest example would be building an auto-updating clock using the 
> <> macro (this could be faked using SVG animations but that's not what 
> I'm looking for). Another example would be a reveal widget that will 
> suddenly display content when the current time matches a predefined value 
> but without any user interaction whatsoever. Such a solution would need to 
> somehow 'see' on its own that the time has changed. Is this possible?
>
> Thank you in advance for sharing your ideas/knowledge.
>
> -Hubert
>

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[tw5] Is re-rendering of tiddlers w/o user interaction possible?

2019-01-22 Thread Hubert

Hi everyone,

If I understand correctly, most content within a tiddler is static. Inline
javacript is not allowed, so macros will only re-calculate their output on
user interaction with a tiddler. For example, the <> macro or Evan
Balster's <> macro will recalculate their output when the built-in
"More actions" TW button is pressed (it's located in the upper-right corner
of each tiddler frame).

What I'm trying achieve is make stuff happen with time being the trigger.
The simplest example would be building an auto-updating clock using the
<> macro (this could be faked using SVG animations but that's not what
I'm looking for). Another example would be a reveal widget that will
suddenly display content when the current time matches a predefined value
but without any user interaction whatsoever. Such a solution would need to
somehow 'see' on its own that the time has changed. Is this possible?

Thank you in advance for sharing your ideas/knowledge.

-Hubert

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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

Hi Thomas,
 Many thanks for your hint! 
Surely I add it! For bulk delete and export, this Filter tab is quite 
useful.

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 3:24:35 PM UTC+3:30, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Please make sure to integrate a hint on the built-in Advanced search 
> options (delete, export). 
>
> Maybe including the possibility to add your own solutions to the filter 
> menu via 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTag%3A%20%24%3A%2Ftags%2FAdvancedSearch%2FFilterButton
>
> (Or would this be a separate chapter? Then link to it.)
>
> Cheers, 
> Thomas 
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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

Hello S.S.
Many thanks for your comments. I absolutely will use them. Also I made a 
link to the valuable tutorial (manual) you prepared for Tiddlywiki at

https://00ss.github.io/help/Adding-a-table-of-contents-to-the-sidebar.html


By the way, In TW-Scripts I go through examples. I call it "learn by 
example". Here I want to have a section with some tiddlers explaining the 
batch operation in TW.
So, the table you have given below is quite useful for my case. I am trying 
to explain what kind of criteria we can have and what kind of batch 
operation we can do!

Thank you again.
Mohammad



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>
> I am assuming you are looking for ideas on how to do a help presentation 
> tiddler.
>
> The way I use the logic is:
>
> <$list filter="criteria-fitler">
>   <$macrocall action
> 
>
> Messages list a tiddlywiki.com 
> \define action such as:
> <$button
>   <$action-sendmessage $message=  
>   Press Button
> 
> For what you are proposing, you could display different filters. 
> Maybe in a table, left column : Criteria & right column : Filter
>
> Example: Make a list of *Normal Tiddlers* (not System or Shadows) to 
> perform actions on:
>
> Criteria
> Filter
> A tag: myTag : filter="[tag[myTag]]"
> Has both a tag for BOTH audio AND video : filter="[tag[audio]tag[video]]"
> Has a tag for EITHER audio OR video : filter="[tag[audio]] [tag[video]]"
> A title starting with: Word : filter="[all[tiddlers]prefix[Word: ]]"
> An empty text field : filter="[all[tiddlers]!has[text]]"
> Does not have a modified field: filter="[all[tiddlers]!has[modified]]"
> Has a field called: author , but that field is NOT empty : 
> filter="[all[tiddlers]has:field[author]]"
> Has a field called: author , but that field is empty : 
> filter="[all[tiddlers]has:field[author]!has[author]]"etc.
>
> Next, make a list of common actions that are performed. Common action 
> messages perhaps:
>
>   tm-add-field , tm-add-tag , tm-delete-tiddler , tm-new-tiddler ,  tm-
> remove-field , tm-remove-tag 
>
> Then comes the harder part - trying to explain the *$action-sendmessage* 
> part.
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title="New $title$ Tiddler" 
> tags="$input$ $ExtraTags$" $param="$:/_/template/$template$"/>
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

Hi Jeremy,

The first thing I do when I delve into an app I am going to both devote 
significant effort to and customise heavily, is document those 
customisations so I can rebuild the same environment from scratch. In the 
case of tiddlywiki I'm naturally documenting my customisations in 
tiddlywiki! These include the non-offical plugins I'm installing. For each 
plugin I create a tiddler decribing the plugin source, why I installed it, 
any configuration, and any other plugins it is dependent on. These tiddlers 
are tagged 'InstalledPlugin' and each has a field called 'plugin.names'. 
This field contains the name of the plugin(s) document in that tiddler, 
e.g., '[[Setvars]' and '[[Date Picker]] [[Moment]]'. The tiddlerscript is 
designed to concatenate all these plugin-describing tiddlers into a single 
tiddler, with each individual source tiddler represented by a heading 
consisting of the plugin names from the field joined by commas, and 
followed by the wikified content of the tiddler itself, e.g.,

-

Plugin A, Plugin B

My wikified description of these plugins.

Plugin C

My wikified description of this plugin.

-

I hope that made the purpose of my tiddlyscript clearer.

David.

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>
> Hi David
>
> Can you show the output you’re trying to obtain and show the fields you’re 
> using of the tiddlers tagged InstalledPlugins?
>
> Best wishes
>
> jeremy.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Highlight in bold the dates in the Recent tab

2019-01-22 Thread Xabriña

Hello again.
I think I explained wrong what I wanted to do.

What I'm trying to do is change the date (color and underline) in which the 
tiddlers are ordered in the "Recent" tab but not the links to the tiddlers.
It may be something more difficult to do than I thought.

I've been taking a look at the coding of the page but I find it difficult 
to follow the topic. My knowledge of CSS and HTML are very limited ...

Thank you.

El martes, 22 de enero de 2019, 12:21:39 (UTC+1), Thomas Elmiger escribió:
>
> Tony and Xabriña, 
>
> My Workflow is this: 
>
> 1. Use Firefox dev tools to inspect the HTML and CSS (via right click > 
> Inspect element).
> On the *Rules *panel on the right you can see existing CSS definitions 
> that influence the style of an element. If there are any specific for the 
> element, we will have to overrule them, if not we can create one (as in 
> Xabriñas first case).
>
> [image: grafik.png]
>
> 2 (optional): Go to the Stylesheet Manager in my project Bricks: 
> https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html#Stylesheet%20Manager
> There is a nice search for existing definitions, to check if I have 
> already some optimisations there. The stylesheets there are based on the 
> original TW styles, just split up and reorganised in different tiddlers. 
> From that work I have learnt a lot about TW styling.
>
> @Xabriña – The solution I came up with for your second question about how 
> to target the links only is: 
>
> .tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline a.tc-tiddlylink {
>text-decoration: underline;
>color: black;
> }
>
> In my test configuration *.tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline a* worked, but 
> as there is already a definition for *a.class* ( .tc-sidebar-lists 
> *a.tc-tiddlylink* ) I am not sure if this depends from which styles are 
> loaded first. Google "CSS specificity" if you want to know more than me ;–)
>
> Greetings from a CSS amateur, 
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

> You're reinforcing my point that when using a <> with <$wikify> 
> there are too many interactions going on for anyone other than a guru to 
> understand, none of which are documented anywhere. And it appears you have to 
> use different methods to render a heading or suppress wikilinks in <$wikify> 
> via a <>, i.e., there is no single method that works for both 
> scenarios. Everyday users like me dealing with this just have to experiment 
> with various combinations of elements until we blunder into a solution, 
> and/or call out for help on this list.

The behaviours of everything that I’ve explained in this thread are documented. 
The trouble, as others have noted, is that the documentation can be hard at 
first because there is so much of it and there are so many interdependencies. 
The behaviour of the wikify widget, for example, is precisely described; it’s 
just that the description is too terse for most people, and needs more examples.

The reason why I asked what you were trying to achieve is because I’m puzzled 
by the use of the wikify widget. The wikify widget was added recently as a way 
to achieve certain relatively advanced effects that weren’t otherwise 
achievable, and getting ones head around it is undeniably confusing because it 
introduces multiple levels of wikification.

But, it’s quite rare that it is needed, and I’m not convinced that you need it 
at all for what you’re trying to do here, hence my question.

> Thank you for your patient explanations of what has been happening with my 
> tiddlyscript attempts. I'm sure it will benefit other users grappling with 
> similar problems.

I do see a lot of unnecessary usage of the wikify widget and recognise that it 
is confusing to many people.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



> 
> David.
> 
> On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 06:42:02 UTC+9:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi David
> 
> The first wikify widget in the example below generates a string of HTML code 
> "My Heading” which you can see when it is directly 
> displayed by the text widget. When you use the double angle bracket syntax to 
> render it, that HTML string gets wikified a second time, and the  HTML 
> tag is rendered into the equivalent wikitext.
> 
> In the case of the second wikify widget, you’re wikifying a text widget that 
> renders the plain text of the variable. Thus, the result stored in the 
> testOutput2 variable is the plain text of the original testVar. Then, when 
> you render it with double angle brackets, it is wikified again, but in inline 
> mode, and so the “!” isn’t recognised as a heading because it is block level.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

Hi Jeremy,

You're reinforcing my point that when using a <> with <$wikify> 
there are too many interactions going on for anyone other than a guru to 
understand, none of which are documented anywhere. And it appears you have 
to use different methods to render a heading or suppress wikilinks in 
<$wikify> via a <>, i.e., there is no single method that works 
for both scenarios. Everyday users like me dealing with this just have to 
experiment with various combinations of elements until we blunder into a 
solution, and/or call out for help on this list.

Thank you for your patient explanations of what has been happening with my 
tiddlyscript attempts. I'm sure it will benefit other users grappling with 
similar problems.

David.

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 06:42:02 UTC+9:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi David
>
> The first wikify widget in the example below generates a string of HTML 
> code "My Heading” which you can see when it is directly 
> displayed by the text widget. When you use the double angle bracket syntax 
> to render it, that HTML string gets wikified a second time, and the  
> HTML tag is rendered into the equivalent wikitext.
>
> In the case of the second wikify widget, you’re wikifying a text widget 
> that renders the plain text of the variable. Thus, the result stored in the 
> testOutput2 variable is the plain text of the original testVar. Then, when 
> you render it with double angle brackets, it is wikified again, but in 
> inline mode, and so the “!” isn’t recognised as a heading because it is 
> block level.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded

2019-01-22 Thread Kalcifer Kandari

I tried all sorts of different things, including using an  tag
instead of . The  did not generate any error message, but
height of the  did not adapt when the tiddler got thinner, whereas
the  tag does. I also tried creating a HTML file with a  tag
inside, then including that file in an  within the tiddler, that
also did not generate any errors, but that still had the fixed height issue.

Here is the HTML for the video, which is inside the tiddler
http://kalcifer.net/#Nodius:


  
  Your browser does not support the video tag.


Here is the CSS for that tag from the custom CSS tiddler
http://kalcifer.net/#Custom%20CSS:

video {
width: 100% !important;
max-width: 960px !important;
display: block;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
}

Go ahead and edit the tiddlers in your browser and see what changes.

Kalcifer



On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:50 AM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> This error appears to be common, and the consensus is that it is harmless.
> See this StackOverflow answer for instance:
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/a/50387233
>
> But, of course, it’s not harmless for TW5 since we have a global error
> trap that reports it to the user; without that error trap it would just be
> another red message visible in the developer console.
>
> I think we need more investigation to see whether the problem is triggered
> by some specific CSS on your site, or if the problem occurs with the
> standard TW5 theme. That may show a way to avoid it through rephrasing your
> CSS.
>
> Otherwise, we’ll have to investigate ways of suppressing the error.
> Perhaps by adding support for a safelist of errors that should be ignored.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 22 Jan 2019, at 09:29, Kalcifer Kandari 
> wrote:
>
> I don't use any plugins. You can see the configuration of the wiki using
> the link I posted, nothing is hidden. I don't think it is caused by CSS,
> but that's at http://kalcifer.net/#Custom%20CSS, the relevant style is
> under 'video' near the top.
>
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 9:12:15 AM UTC, PMario wrote:
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>> hi,
>> which plugins do you use?
>> -m
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Re: [tw5] <$wikify> needs <$text> to honour tilde-based wikilink suppression

Thanks, Thomas. That is another interesting workaround. It is certainly 
much more self-descriptive than my solution, so it would be easier to 
figure out what I did when I revisit this tiddler in six months and can't 
remember why I needed a workaround in the first place!

FYI, <$setvar> is from an excellent tobibeer plugin called setvars 
 that, "sets multiple, 
complex variables based on attributes, filters, or conditionals." You only 
need it occasionally, but when you have a problem that fits its solution 
space it does the job superbly. The plugin also has a wide range of 
documented examples which are invaluable. In case you can't tell, I'm a 
huge fan!

David.

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 06:35:39 UTC+9:30, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi David
>
> My wiki was not able to recognise a $setvars widget from your code two 
> post above ... 
>
> But I also have good news for you. I cannot guarantee that this covers any 
> case you throw at it, but it does cover wikilinks, the part of your first 
> example that is sensitive for double wikification: 
>
> <$set name="testVar" value="WikiLink ~NoWikiLink">
>
>   
>
>   <$wikify name="testOutput1" text=<> output="html">
> <$set name="tv-wikilinks" value="no">
> <>
> 
>   
>
> 
>
> <$set name="testVar" value="! Wiki Title – WikiTitle – ~WikiTitle">
>
>   
>
>   <$wikify name="testOutput1" text=<> output="html">
> <$set name="tv-wikilinks" value="no">
> <>
> 
>   
>
> 
>
> Is this what you are looking for?
>
> Good luck!
> Thomas
>

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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

Please make sure to integrate a hint on the built-in Advanced search options 
(delete, export). 

Maybe including the possibility to add your own solutions to the filter menu 
via 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTag%3A%20%24%3A%2Ftags%2FAdvancedSearch%2FFilterButton

(Or would this be a separate chapter? Then link to it.)

Cheers, 
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Re: [tw5] Re: ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded

This error appears to be common, and the consensus is that it is harmless. See 
this StackOverflow answer for instance:

https://stackoverflow.com/a/50387233 

But, of course, it’s not harmless for TW5 since we have a global error trap 
that reports it to the user; without that error trap it would just be another 
red message visible in the developer console.

I think we need more investigation to see whether the problem is triggered by 
some specific CSS on your site, or if the problem occurs with the standard TW5 
theme. That may show a way to avoid it through rephrasing your CSS.

Otherwise, we’ll have to investigate ways of suppressing the error. Perhaps by 
adding support for a safelist of errors that should be ignored.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 22 Jan 2019, at 09:29, Kalcifer Kandari  wrote:
> 
> I don't use any plugins. You can see the configuration of the wiki using the 
> link I posted, nothing is hidden. I don't think it is caused by CSS, but 
> that's at http://kalcifer.net/#Custom%20CSS 
> , the relevant style is under 'video' near 
> the top.
> 
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 9:12:15 AM UTC, PMario wrote:
> hi,
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> -m
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[tw5] Re: Intertwingling the TiddlyWiki - TF-IDF and tag inference

2019-01-22 Thread Joe Armstrong

YES - For a very long time I've wanted an assistant that watches what I do 
and helps me - this is my
ultimate goal.

I want to reduce entropy - I want to discover similar tiddlers and merge 
them to reduce entropy.

I have been thinking about how to do this for 30 odd years (not for 
tiddlers - but for text representing ideas)

When I make a new tiddler I ask myself "Have I done this or something like 
this before" - or "has anybody else done this"

I know of one good algorithm for this.

I make a new tiddler T and want to find the most similar tiddler to T in a 
collection of tiddlers.

For this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalized_compression_distance is 
very good.

This is very simple   A is similar to B if
size(compress(A ++ B)) is just a bit larger than size(compress(A))

If size(compress(A++B)) > size(compress(A)) + size(compress(B)) then A and 
B are very dissimilar

++ is concatination.

Why is this? compression algorithms look for similarities between different 
parts of a text - 
they work well when they find similarities.

This is a crazy good algorithm - I gave it all the paragraphs in a book I'd 
written - typed a new paragraph and it ranks
any similar paragraphs it can find. 

The problem is that it's very inefficient - if I had a few million tiddlers 
it would be way too slow.

My next idea would be to use the rsync algorithm for plagiarism detection. 
This 
is linear in the number of character of the new tiddler - it  finds short 
fragments of identical text
very very quickly - this is why Universities etc use it to detect cheating 
students.

So I'd propose using rsync to make a set of candidate tiddlers then least 
compression difference
to rank the candidates.

Could also use TD*IDF similarity to make candidates.

Ultimately I'd like to find all paragraphs in the planet name them by their 
SHA checksums
then put them into an entropy reduction machine that finds similarities and 
throws out
duplicates and near matching data.

It seems to me that intelligence is partly the ability to recognise 
similarities between things
so I think an entropy reduction machine would be great.

What attracted me to the TW in the first place was the granularity of the 
tiddlers.

They must be not to small and not too big and capture a single idea - 
there's
a Swedish word for this "Lagom" - that and transclusion to combine ideas are
fundamental to building build large structures by combining smaller things.

The problem with search engines is that you have to think up a query.

In similarity detection what you have written becomes the query - and you 
ask
"what is the most similar thing you can find to "

This topic has fascinated me for years - I view entropy reduction as one of 
the key
unsolved problems in computer science

Cheers

/Joe

On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 05:27:56 UTC+1, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>
> Again, thanks for sharing, Joe!  I looked through the PDF and had a few 
> thoughts:
>
>   * Did you do any additional processing of the tiddler bodies, eg. 
> stemming, chunking into bigrams/trigrams, or stripping out various wikitext 
> elements like URLs?  If you did, I'd be curious to hear how that affected 
> your results!
>   * During the talk, you mention the idea of an "assistant" that sits off 
> to the side and helps you work on tiddlers as you type.  I often think that 
> it would be helpful if TiddlyWiki offered me suggestions for tiddlers that 
> might be related to what I'm currently writing, and I think perhaps your 
> TF-IDF "significant term" detection approach might make for a step in the 
> right direction.  Perhaps the top N TF-IDF terms for each tiddler could be 
> encoded as a vector, and tiddlers whose vectors have the highest cosine 
> similarity could be offered as matches in this regard - what do you think?
>
> -Rob
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 12:03:09 PM UTC-6, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Joe!  I'll read over that PDF you sent over; as far as the code 
>> goes, I think the PDF documentation describing the methodology should 
>> suffice.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 11:33:31 AM UTC-6, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>>
>>> The code I wrote was a bit messy and just as an experiment. 
>>> Good enough for proof of concept but not for production - it was just 
>>> written to test a few ideas.
>>>
>>> I don't mind sending you a private copy - but explaining how it works 
>>> would be low priority.
>>>
>>> A better idea would be for me to put it up on github together with my 
>>> library of Erlang code that
>>> parses and mucks with tiddlers - I'm trying to programmatically create 
>>> TWs from other data sources.
>>>
>>> If you saw the talk you'd see that we're interested in "Communicating 
>>> TW's" I can imagine TW's sending messages
>>> to each other - but this is a long way off ...
>>>
>>> I did make a little writeup that explains the method (enclosed) - the 
>>> code was just a prototype and written in Erlang - the problem at the moment 
>>> is tha

Re: [tw5] Re: Highlight in bold the dates in the Recent tab

Tony and Xabriña,

My Workflow is this:

1. Use Firefox dev tools to inspect the HTML and CSS (via right click >
Inspect element).
On the *Rules *panel on the right you can see existing CSS definitions that
influence the style of an element. If there are any specific for the
element, we will have to overrule them, if not we can create one (as in
Xabriñas first case).

[image: grafik.png]

2 (optional): Go to the Stylesheet Manager in my project Bricks:
https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html#Stylesheet%20Manager
There is a nice search for existing definitions, to check if I have already
some optimisations there. The stylesheets there are based on the original
TW styles, just split up and reorganised in different tiddlers. From that
work I have learnt a lot about TW styling.

@Xabriña – The solution I came up with for your second question about how
to target the links only is:

.tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline a.tc-tiddlylink {
text-decoration: underline;
color: black;
}

In my test configuration *.tc-sidebar-lists .tc-timeline a* worked, but as
there is already a definition for *a.class* ( .tc-sidebar-lists
*a.tc-tiddlylink* ) I am not sure if this depends from which styles are
loaded first. Google "CSS specificity" if you want to know more than me ;–)

Greetings from a CSS amateur,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded

2019-01-22 Thread Kalcifer Kandari

I don't use any plugins. You can see the configuration of the wiki using 
the link I posted, nothing is hidden. I don't think it is caused by CSS, 
but that's at http://kalcifer.net/#Custom%20CSS, the relevant style is 
under 'video' near the top.

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> hi,
> which plugins do you use?
> -m
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Re: [tw5] Re: ResizeObserver loop limit exceeded

2019-01-22 Thread Kalcifer Kandari

I already replied to this, but I think my message was deleted?

I don't use any plugins. Also, not sure if it will change be useful, but here
is a link to the custom CSS tiddler .
The relevant styles are under 'video {}'.

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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation

2019-01-22 Thread S. S.

I am assuming you are looking for ideas on how to do a help presentation 
tiddler.

The way I use the logic is:

<$list filter="criteria-fitler">
  <$macrocall action


Messages list a tiddlywiki.com 
\define action such as:
<$button
  <$action-sendmessage $message=  
  Press Button



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[tw5] Re: Can't set favicon using SVG code?

For your reference

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Tiddlywiki%20Favicon

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[tw5] Re: Need your help / comment: Batch operation