[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-01 Thread PMario

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:04:25 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
...

> My suggestion is: as previously discussed here by others, it would be 
> great if the core can implement tiddlers to have unique ID to be addressed 
> with many names!
> (effors have been made and plugins are available but nothing in the core)
>

Tiddlers have a human readable unique ID. .. The *title *field. ... 

There's no need to create a human un-friendly ID. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
Hi Mat, 

Nice work. ... Seems to be similar to my uni-link plugin [1]. ... 

One main problem, for me, with aliases was, that I also want to have the 
"alias-backlink" info in the info panel. 
There is a short video [2], which shows all the functions. uni-link plugin 
also implements some filter operators, that help with alias handling. 

- is[alias], all[aliases], [aliasbacklinks[]],  
[[?]aliasbacklinks[]sort[title]] 

have fun!
mario

[1] https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/
[2] https://youtu.be/IelDdM7iXrA

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[tw5] Re: Query -- Are we neglecting "Restore" from default "Download Saves"?

2019-07-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The attached is just to indicate that some progress is being made. The zip 
file has the PS file, the support library file, and the ini file. There's 
lots of stuff that needs to be tweaked, especially capturing the error 
messages -- maybe tomorrow? There's an S option on the menu that I used for 
testing that I need to take out. Probably the library needs to have the 
path to it specified.

I only tested it lightly, with one file /location. So, as usually, be sure 
to have backups.

Along the lines of "Bob", I was thinking maybe "Polly", like the parrot 
that repeats itself, which is what the script really does.

So eventually, if we settle on "polly", for example, there might be 5 or 
more files

polly.txt (for usage)
polly-vsn-initials.ps1 (the script)
polly.ini (the settings)
polly.bat (to launch with proper privileges)
Get-IniContent.ps1 (library for parsing ini file)

I say "or more" because it sounds like there are ideas out there for more 
advanced features that may also require libraries.

Thanks!


On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 10:05:56 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mark S., TonyM and all,
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>
>> Re the name, thinking maybe nein-lives (humour intended) or neun-lives 
>> just to avoid trademark infringement with the cat food company.
>>
>
> Okay. Slept on it. What about ... 
>
> *NINE-LIFE *?
>
>
> TBH, I don't really mind what its called! :-) But I'd rather settle it so 
> we can co-ordinate without ambiguity. 
>
> ["Hector" might be a good alternative :-). I thought Jed did well calling 
> Bob "Bob":-)] 
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Great job Mat!
Mario has also an alias plugin!

My suggestion is: as previously discussed here by others, it would be great 
if the core can implement tiddlers to have unique ID to be addressed with 
many names!
(effors have been made and plugins are available but nothing in the core)

-Mohammad


On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:01:56 AM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> From the crypts, Mr von TWaddle has burned up yet a few brain cells for 
> the benefit of his fellow *tiddleurs*...
> ...and thus proudly presents
>
> AliasTids 
>
> This is a new approach to aliases with the main benefit that it is very 
> simple
> to use and it doesn't distract your writing: Just type links like normal!
>
> There is a small issue which is *not* part of the main functionality. You 
> can see it
> in the *bonus* tiddler AliasesOverview. I'm announcing this thing anyway
> hoping  that some friendly soul can help out with that issue.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: IN GENERAL: method of the madness

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Very good idea!

Actually the reference database Tiddlywiki has now were mostly created by 
individuals and many from this forum discussion.
I wish someday Tiddllywiki can have TWederation for an official contributed 
reference database!

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:50:44 AM UTC+4:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> I post things here first for several reasons:
>
> 1 - to get feedback on what I may have done wrong before posting to a 
> future reference TW
> 2 - to help build the "knowedge base" that the collected threads form
> -- -- important cause threads often show up in web searches, accessible to 
> those not familiar with independent reference TW's
> 3 - for people running their own reference TW's to incorporate into their 
> wikis such as TWScripts does
>

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[tw5] Re: horizontal outline/menu (for RPG & MMORPG)

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
This is great! If you dont I would be happy to see how you have implemented 
it in TW.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 4:43:59 AM UTC+4:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> horizontal outline/menu (for RPG & MMORPG)
>
> (with single file TW 5.1.17, latest Firefox)
>
> For the ultimate in compact info.  As in the screenshot-- perfect for RPG 
> & MMORPG.
>
> Each column opens its sub-menu (or page contents) in the next column.
>
> More detailed explanation:
>
> First column is a vertical tabs macro display of the parent/containing 
> tiddler.  First tab "Spectrum" is a normal tiddler and just displays its 
> contents.  The other tabs beneath it are tiddlers with their own vertical 
> tabs macro which will display the second column of tabs.
>
> Those tiddlers of the second column can be normal tiddlers to display 
> their  contents or contain their own vertical tabs macro for another- 
> third- row of tabs.
>
> The third column- in this example- are normal tiddlers to display their  
> contents to the right, but another- 4th- column could be formed by tiddlers 
> of the third column containing vertical tab macros. 
>
> I shall have to make a tiddlers.json file that would contain all the 
> tiddlers for importing into a blank TW for a working demo and to play with.
>
> sorry about the screenshot being so stark-- its my system  theme and I 
> can't work with light colored images to show it with the default TW theme : 
> (
>
> [image: Clipboard0100.jpg]
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Mario,
 That's correct! The problem is one may have several slideshow in the same 
wiki and each use their own themes!
So, what I tried and not successful yet, is how can I have different theme 
for different slideshow at the same time!
One solution based on your suggestion may be to switch theme when click on 
the slideshow dashboard and set it for presentation
but then if I use TW theme it will apply it to the whole tiddlers.


/Mohammad

On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 10:47:04 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:14:40 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
> ... 
>
>> The slideshow tiddler has a field called *theme*!
>>
>
> If you want to create themes. .. Why don't you use themes. ... 
>
> A theme in TW is like a plugin. But themes can be switched on the fly. I 
> think, this would be much more efficient and less complicated.
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-01 Thread h0p3
Awesome work, thank you. Aliasing is an important part of my wiki, but I 
can't say I undersatnd the issues well enough. Does your tool differ in a 
crucial respect from https://mklauber.github.io/tw5-plugins/#Aliases ? I am 
also on the hunt for aliasing which works with search, and which is 
lightweight enough to not freeze out linked-to referencing from tiddler 
info.





On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>
> From the crypts, Mr von TWaddle has burned up yet a few brain cells for 
> the benefit of his fellow *tiddleurs*...
> ...and thus proudly presents
>
> AliasTids 
>
> This is a new approach to aliases with the main benefit that it is very 
> simple
> to use and it doesn't distract your writing: Just type links like normal!
>
> There is a small issue which is *not* part of the main functionality. You 
> can see it
> in the *bonus* tiddler AliasesOverview. I'm announcing this thing anyway
> hoping  that some friendly soul can help out with that issue.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-01 Thread TonyM
Mat,

Nice idea. If such alias names for tiddlers where searchable like regular 
titles this could be revolutionary. I imagine the caption field would 
benefit from such a feature as well.
 
Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:31:56 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> From the crypts, Mr von TWaddle has burned up yet a few brain cells for 
> the benefit of his fellow *tiddleurs*...
> ...and thus proudly presents
>
> AliasTids 
>
> This is a new approach to aliases with the main benefit that it is very 
> simple
> to use and it doesn't distract your writing: Just type links like normal!
>
> There is a small issue which is *not* part of the main functionality. You 
> can see it
> in the *bonus* tiddler AliasesOverview. I'm announcing this thing anyway
> hoping  that some friendly soul can help out with that issue.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: How to "find and replace" when calling a field in a template?

2019-07-01 Thread TonyM
Ed,

Perhaps an alternate strategy is to just copy the code ICKToz7BLLA the 
generate a link or two
In this case you could use [addprefix[https://www.youtube.com/embed/]]

But you can also take the link and 
[{!!url}removeprefix[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=]addprefix[https://www.youtube.com/embed/]];

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:40:54 AM UTC+10, Ed wrote:
>
> Sorry for the poorly worded title. Hopefully my use case will make it 
> clear what I am asking.
>
> I want to quickly add YouTube videos to my wiki by copying a link into a 
> text box. 
>
> I have a textbox/button that creates a tiddler and adds the text entered 
> to a url field:
>
> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/new-video-link" tag="input" default=""/>
> <$button>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle={{$:/state/new-video-link}} 
> text="{{||YoutubeTemplate}}" url={{$:/state/new-video-link}}/>
> Add
> 
>
> The resulting tiddler calls a template (named "YoutubeTemplate") that will 
> display the video from the URL:
>
>  allowfullscreen>
>
> The problem is that I need to use the 'embed' version of the URL.
>
> For example "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKToz7BLLA; needs to become 
> "https://www.youtube.com/embed/ICKToz7BLLA;.
>
> Is there a method to 'find and replace' "watch?v=" with "embed/" when 
> calling {{!!url}} in my template?
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
Ooups, premature!

Currently both of missing tiddlers [[fo]] and [[foo]] show the template in 
spite of only [[foo]] being in the aliases field of [[Foo]]. 

You can still play around with it but I will not correct this until 
tomorrow.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion into variable or something similar?

2019-07-01 Thread A Gloom
Stephan,

Welcome back.  I have no answers but I will definitely be interested in 
what you figure out.

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[tw5] How to "find and replace" when calling a field in a template?

2019-07-01 Thread Ed
Sorry for the poorly worded title. Hopefully my use case will make it clear 
what I am asking.

I want to quickly add YouTube videos to my wiki by copying a link into a 
text box. 

I have a textbox/button that creates a tiddler and adds the text entered to 
a url field:

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/new-video-link" tag="input" default=""/>
<$button>
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle={{$:/state/new-video-link}} 
text="{{||YoutubeTemplate}}" url={{$:/state/new-video-link}}/>
Add


The resulting tiddler calls a template (named "YoutubeTemplate") that will 
display the video from the URL:



The problem is that I need to use the 'embed' version of the URL.

For example "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKToz7BLLA; needs to become 
"https://www.youtube.com/embed/ICKToz7BLLA;.

Is there a method to 'find and replace' "watch?v=" with "embed/" when 
calling {{!!url}} in my template?

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[tw5] Presenting: AliasTids - one tiddler, many titles

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
>From the crypts, Mr von TWaddle has burned up yet a few brain cells for the 
benefit of his fellow *tiddleurs*...
...and thus proudly presents

AliasTids 

This is a new approach to aliases with the main benefit that it is very 
simple
to use and it doesn't distract your writing: Just type links like normal!

There is a small issue which is *not* part of the main functionality. You 
can see it
in the *bonus* tiddler AliasesOverview. I'm announcing this thing anyway
hoping  that some friendly soul can help out with that issue.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: IN GENERAL: method of the madness

2019-07-01 Thread A Gloom

>
> What we need is a communally curated knowledge data base. These things are 
> not possible for single individuals to manage (unless for personal use).
>

Very true, but what I've seen Toolmap and TWScripts do by referencing other 
reference sites is a overlooked but very good interimn measure.

I have a good feeling about TWederation coming soon which will, or at least 
> can, be a game changer.
>

I have heard  intriquing things about it-- I must investigate.

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[tw5] Re: IN GENERAL: method of the madness

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
What we need is a communally curated knowledge data base. These things are 
not possible for single individuals to manage (unless for personal use).

I have a good feeling about TWederation coming soon which will, or at least 
can, be a game changer.

<:-)

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[tw5] Iframe tiddlers quirk

2019-07-01 Thread A Gloom
(for single file TW 5.1.17, latest Firefox)

If when creating iframe tiddlers and they don't display their content (in 
cases where tou know they should), this may be a cause--

I often clone or copy and paste code from existing iframe tiddlers to edit 
the target source for new iframe tiddlers, and I have noticed if the 
cloned/copied iframe code  had referenced an external/Web "src" url 
(starting with http:), it will not display content if you edit the "src" 
url to an local url (ie file: or filename.html).  I found that I had to 
delete the new tiddler and create another new tiddler in its place with its 
iframe code with a  blank "src" value like so:



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[tw5] Re: IN GENERAL: method of the madness

2019-07-01 Thread TonyM
Me Too,

If I have a problem I am trying to solve there is a strong chance someone 
else will have the same problem, so apart for seeking help I know if I 
ensure the answer is there others will benefit in the future. 

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] IN GENERAL: method of the madness

2019-07-01 Thread A Gloom
I post things here first for several reasons:

1 - to get feedback on what I may have done wrong before posting to a 
future reference TW
2 - to help build the "knowedge base" that the collected threads form
-- -- important cause threads often show up in web searches, accessible to 
those not familiar with independent reference TW's
3 - for people running their own reference TW's to incorporate into their 
wikis such as TWScripts does

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion into variable or something similar?

2019-07-01 Thread TonyM
Stephen,

Welcome back, if you can share your ultimate result that would be great. I 
have tried something similar a number of times but have found it very 
fragile. My suspicion is the best way maybe to have a template tiddler not 
unlike all the savers and exporters use that defines the mailto link with 
the content from the current tiddler. I hoped to have any tiddler with an 
email address have a send mail button that allowed it to automatically 
compose the email and open the default mail program. Ideally there would be 
a mechanism to "attach" other tiddlers as files, such as a json tiddler or 
image.

I am prepared to put sometime into collaboration on this because I also 
need this for a client solution.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 2:22:36 AM UTC+10, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Montag, 1. Juli 2019 14:06:36 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>>
>> Hey there's a familiar name! Welcome back Stephan.
>>
>> Thanks! Also to @PMario and @Mohannad
>  
>
>> I think you need to wikify the MailText (wikifywidget) before sending to 
>> encodeuri
>>
>> That seems like the solution. Thanks a lot! 
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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to change the default wiki in tiddlydesktop?

2019-07-01 Thread TonyM
Adam,

I am not aware of this and have being looking for a while. I hoped at least 
I could launch a wiki from a command line or batch file.

I will let you know if I learn something.

I raised an issue in github 


Regards
Tony

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> Hello everyone!
>
> I would like tiddlydesktop to open a selected wiki when it is launched 
> instead of the default with the wiki list.
> Is this possible?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Installing TW5Bob.exe nightmare

2019-07-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It might help to show your configuration file (either settings.json or 
copy/paste from the Bob server tab).

You're not alone -- I had to struggle to get Bob to serve up my existing 
Wikis. The configuration file is frustrating, because you will make a 
change, and when you reload, it shows you an empty configuration file 
(which may eventually populate, but I don't know why/when). But maybe 
there's just something weird about my configuration.,

Good luck



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> Thank you for the advice on both giving me a good download and on how to 
> ask for advice. 
>
> I downloaded the version suggested, had to put in the server  
> manually. Worked like a charm! 
>
> But then I noticed that the wiki was not saving from the host or my other 
> machines at all. I have autosave on but not getting any saving anywhere.
>
> I also tried to import a wiki with create a wiki from an html file. While 
> the wiki is listed I do not see it at all when I click on it. Normal?
>
> Using windows 7 64, using Bobexe 123
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 4:33 AM Jed Carty > 
> wrote:
>
>> More information is needed for a useful response.
>>
>> Some tips for how to submit an effective bug report are here: 
>> https://www.ooktech.xyz:8443/Public#How%20to%20make%20a%20good%20bug%20report
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[tw5] Re: Query -- Are we neglecting "Restore" from default "Download Saves"?

2019-07-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Dear TonyM

Thanks for taking precious time on this to reply in such detail. I really 
apporeciate it. I will respond tBut bego the post details when I absorbed 
it fully.

But, before that I wanted to comment that the aim in *this *is very 
pertinent.

In a quick, perhaps over-simple way, I'd say YOUR approach is about making 
the user experiece as easy as possibe? Mine definitely isn't (as yet).

IF what you layout in principle I can see in a working system I might give 
up what I am doing. But I grasp you are busy and maybe can't get to a 
working system at the  moment. 

Yet it could be very interseting if you did.

Best wishes
Josiah

TonyM wrote:... 
>
> ... For example from a user perspective this is what I hope all they would 
> need to know.
>
>1. Download and run this sentinel script
>   1. It will create a documents folder called tiddlywiki
>   2. Use the startup folder or scheduler to run this every time you 
>   start the computer or login
>2. Now place any tiddlywiki file in this folder, name it as you wish.
>   1. Click on whichever wiki you want to open (in your default 
>   browser)
>   2. Use your wiki and make changes as needed, then click save
>   3. Without any other saver installed this will use the default 
>   saver and download your wiki to the download folder
>   4. Just save with the default name.
>3. Keep using your wiki and save/download as many time as you want to 
>the downloads folder
>   1. Each time you save you wiki it will be automatically moved to 
>   your tiddlywiki folder. 
>   2. Next time you save it will no longer be in your downloads folder 
>   and will save a fresh copy.
>4. If you script was not running you last save may still be there. so 
>just save it as the recommended name 
>   1. eg "tiddlywiki (1).html " "tiddlywiki (2).html"
>   2. Next time you run the script these will be tidied up.
>5. Each time you wiki is saved the previous one is moved to the 
>TiddlyWiki/backups folder and named tiddlywiki (1) ... (10)
>   1. once more than 10 backups are available the oldest will be 
>   deleted (you can configure thi
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Installing TW5Bob.exe nightmare

2019-07-01 Thread OOC
Thank you for the advice on both giving me a good download and on how to
ask for advice.

I downloaded the version suggested, had to put in the server  manually.
Worked like a charm!

But then I noticed that the wiki was not saving from the host or my other
machines at all. I have autosave on but not getting any saving anywhere.

I also tried to import a wiki with create a wiki from an html file. While
the wiki is listed I do not see it at all when I click on it. Normal?

Using windows 7 64, using Bobexe 123



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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:14:40 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
... 

> The slideshow tiddler has a field called *theme*!
>

If you want to create themes. .. Why don't you use themes. ... 

A theme in TW is like a plugin. But themes can be switched on the fly. I 
think, this would be much more efficient. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Mat,
 I am thinking  if I can use template instead of conditional stylesheets.
--Mohammad

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>
> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Mat, I did not get the point!
>> Do you mean this way we can have fewer line in dynamic stylesheet?
>>
>
> Fewer lines, I have no idea. I just addressed what you asked in bold text 
> in your message. 
>
> If you're worried about too many iterations, then maybe you'll have to 
> make a big aggreated static copy of all the smaller parts. I don't know.
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
Mohammad wrote:
>
> Mat, I did not get the point!
> Do you mean this way we can have fewer line in dynamic stylesheet?
>

Fewer lines, I have no idea. I just addressed what you asked in bold text 
in your message. 

If you're worried about too many iterations, then maybe you'll have to make 
a big aggreated static copy of all the smaller parts. I don't know.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Query -- Are we neglecting "Restore" from default "Download Saves"?

2019-07-01 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark S., TonyM and all,

Mark S. wrote:

> Re the name, thinking maybe nein-lives (humour intended) or neun-lives 
> just to avoid trademark infringement with the cat food company.
>

Okay. Slept on it. What about ... 

*NINE-LIFE *?


TBH, I don't really mind what its called! :-) But I'd rather settle it so 
we can co-ordinate without ambiguity. 

["Hector" might be a good alternative :-). I thought Jed did well calling 
Bob "Bob":-)] 

Thoughts?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion into variable or something similar?

2019-07-01 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Montag, 1. Juli 2019 14:06:36 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>
> Hey there's a familiar name! Welcome back Stephan.
>
> Thanks! Also to @PMario and @Mohannad
 

> I think you need to wikify the MailText (wikifywidget) before sending to 
> encodeuri
>
> That seems like the solution. Thanks a lot! 

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[tw5] Re: create a button that mimics the behaviour of "Create a new tiddler tagged with this one"

2019-07-01 Thread passingby
TonyM,

I just copied that code line from OP's question and added the call to 
getTag macro..

On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 4:16:58 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Passing by
>
> I am curious if you have a particular reason to use
>
> text='<$transclude tiddler="$:/category">'
>
> Rather than
>
> text={{$:/category}}
>
> regards
> Tony
>
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Mat,
 Note that we may have few parent like 20 ~ 50 parent tiddlers
 but hundreds of child tiddlers (if any parent has 25 child tiddlers then 
we may have 1250 ). In my solution dynamic stylesheet will produce 25 line 
if each theme has 30 line then the stylesheet will grow up to 750 line!
too many!



On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:10:24 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> How is it possible to conditionally and dynamically apply CSS to a 
>> tiddler? Assume you have a child tiddler and you want to style it based on 
>> a theme filed value from parent.
>>
>
>
> Read 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Custom%20styles%20by%20data-tiddler-title
>
> [data-tiddler-title="the child"] {
>   {{fieldfromparent}}
> }
>
>
>
> <:-)
>
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Mat, I did not get the point!
Do you mean this way we can have fewer line in dynamic stylesheet?

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>
> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> How is it possible to conditionally and dynamically apply CSS to a 
>> tiddler? Assume you have a child tiddler and you want to style it based on 
>> a theme filed value from parent.
>>
>
>
> Read 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Custom%20styles%20by%20data-tiddler-title
>
> [data-tiddler-title="the child"] {
>   {{fieldfromparent}}
> }
>
>
>
> <:-)
>
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
Mohammad wrote:
>
> How is it possible to conditionally and dynamically apply CSS to a 
> tiddler? Assume you have a child tiddler and you want to style it based on 
> a theme filed value from parent.
>


Read 
https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Custom%20styles%20by%20data-tiddler-title

[data-tiddler-title="the child"] {
  {{fieldfromparent}}
}



<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
One point I like to understand is, if I have 20 parent each have 10 child 
tiddlers, the dynamic stylesheet will generate 20 line of CSS and 200 
tiddlers will be affected! I dont know is there any performance effect or 
not? I doubt a user have all 200 tiddlers opened on the screen!


On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 6:44:40 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Based on the discussion here, I have created a test case at: 
> http://dynastyle.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> The test case is as described below. I appreciate to give me your 
> feedback. I gonna to use it in Tiddlyshow to have different style for 
> different slideshow! Right now the whole wiki has to use one theme at a 
> time.
>
> How is it possible to conditionally and dynamically apply CSS to a 
> tiddler? Assume you have a child tiddler and you want to style it based on 
> a theme filed value from parent.The mechanism is as described below
>
>1. Generate a dynamic Stylesheet (a tiddler tagged with 
>$:/tags/Stylesheet)
>   - The stylesheet is generated from some tiddlers containing 
>   conditional css
>   - There are several css tiddlers are populated conditionally
>2. A test example uses the dynamic stylesheet as below
>   - The example has several tiddlers tagged with slideshow
>   - The slideshow tiddler has a field called *theme*!
>   - Each slideshow tiddler has several child tiddlers (those tagged 
>   with *slide* + slideshow tiddler as *parent*)
>   - The dynamic stylesheet applies conditionally css rules to child 
>   slides based on the theme field value. Here a theme is to style a 
> tiddler 
>   with colored border.
>
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Based on the discussion here, I have created a test case at: 
http://dynastyle.tiddlyspot.com/

The test case is as described below. I appreciate to give me your feedback. 
I gonna to use it in Tiddlyshow to have different style for different 
slideshow! Right now the whole wiki has to use one theme at a time.

How is it possible to conditionally and dynamically apply CSS to a tiddler? 
Assume you have a child tiddler and you want to style it based on a theme 
filed value from parent.The mechanism is as described below
   
   1. Generate a dynamic Stylesheet (a tiddler tagged with 
   $:/tags/Stylesheet)
  - The stylesheet is generated from some tiddlers containing 
  conditional css
  - There are several css tiddlers are populated conditionally
   2. A test example uses the dynamic stylesheet as below
  - The example has several tiddlers tagged with slideshow
  - The slideshow tiddler has a field called *theme*!
  - Each slideshow tiddler has several child tiddlers (those tagged 
  with *slide* + slideshow tiddler as *parent*)
  - The dynamic stylesheet applies conditionally css rules to child 
  slides based on the theme field value. Here a theme is to style a tiddler 
  with colored border.
   

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion into variable or something similar?

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Welcome back Stephan!
Hope to see your great work and contribution again here in TW forum!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 3:57:15 PM UTC+4:30, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> After quite some time I'm back to using TiddlyWiki (hopefully) a bit more 
> regularly.
>
> Seems my kowledge has rusted over the last 2 years. I cannot figure out 
> how to get solved what I want to achieve.
>
> The idea is the following: I have to create some customer information and 
> in that process I have to send mails.
>
> So while I document what I do I also want to enter the customer's data 
> into my TW. The idea I have is that TW will already prepare the mail for me.
>
> This works but I have to copy & paste the mail. Much easier would be to 
> click on a prepared mailto-link which will invoke my mail program, 
> prefilled with all the data.
>
>
> Here is an example as to how far I came:
>
> Tiddler "data"
>
> name:recipient
> text:the text to send
>
> Tiddler "MailText"
>
> Hi <>!
>
> Thisisyour text: <>.
>
> Regards
>
> Tiddler PreparedMail
>
> <$set name="the_recipient" tiddler="data" index="name">
> <$set name="the_text"  tiddler="data" index="text">
>
> 
> {{MailText}}
> 
>
>
> 
> 
>
> In order to be able to create a mailto-link, I will have to apply 
> encodeuri to the mailtex. So $list is requiredt:
>
> <$set name="the_recipient" tiddler="data" index="name">
> <$set name="the_text"  tiddler="data" index="text">
>
> <$list filter="[[MailText]get[text]encodeuri[]]">
>
> <>
>
> 
>
>
> 
> 
>
> Unfortunately encodeuri does not receive the "Transclusionresult" but the 
> plain MailText and so the output of the las example will be:
>
>
> Hi%20%3C%3Cthe_recipient%3E%3E!%0A%0AThis%20is%20your%20text:%20%3C%3Cthe_text%3E%3E.%0A%0ARegards
>
> And not the required
>
>
> Hi%20recipien!%0A%0AThis%20is%20your%20text:%20the%20text%20to%20send.%0A%0ARegards
>
> Is there any way I can solve this? Can I, for exampl, get the fully 
> transcluded text into a variable so that I can create a mailto-link?
>
> Many tia…
>
>

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[tw5] Is it possible to change the default wiki in tiddlydesktop?

2019-07-01 Thread Adam S.
Hello everyone!

I would like tiddlydesktop to open a selected wiki instead of the default 
with the wiki list.
Is this possible?

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Good note Mat!
Thanks

On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:01:43 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> IMO this is basically how native TW should create (aggregate) stylesheets, 
> i.e from multiple tiddlers that individually define specific style defs. 
> One stylesheet for "the tiddler", another for "the sidebar" - or maybe 
> these are also aggreagtions of smaller/more specific ones (...the tiddler 
> control buttons, the sidebar segments etc).
>
> Caution: CSS is "last called wins" so you should probably control the 
> order in the list filter. If you use "[tag[foo]]" then one idea could be to 
> check if foo has a list field, i.e since foo is a tag you can access it's 
> children with <> and easily manipulate the order in its list 
> field. 
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion into variable or something similar?

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
Hey there's a familiar name! Welcome back Stephan.

I think you need to wikify the MailText (wikifywidget) before sending to 
encodeuri

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Many Thanks Mario!
 I got the point and will note to the performance as you advised!

-- Mohammad


On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:01:26 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 1:25:02 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 12:47:28 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Mario,
>>>  Those solution uses CSS attribute selector! Here I need to add filters 
>>> for example to filter tiddlers modified within last week!
>>>
>>
>> Have a closer look at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Q%3A%20How%20can%20I%20use%20a%20custom%20field%20to%20style%20a%20tiddler%3F
>> -m
>>
>
> The example should be like: 
>
> <$list filter="[rank[species]]"> 
> [data-tiddler-title^="<$view field=title format=text/>"] .tc-tiddler-body {
> column-count: 2;
> }
>  
>
> The difference is the format=text attribute, which should also avoid problems 
> with special tiddler titles.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
PMario wrote:
>
> Dynamically generated styles have to be re-calculated everytime you change 
>>> something. 
>>>
>>
>> Does "everytime I change something" mean "change *anything*" or does it 
>> mean only when I change tiddlers involved in the dynamic listing of them, 
>> i.e the stylesheets themselves?
>>
>
> As far as I can remember, it's part of the refresh cycle. So really 
> everytime the UI refreshes anything. 
>

Is it possible to specify that a tiddler should not be part of the refresh 
cycle but only when it is are open?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 1:43:51 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> PMario wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nothing is for free: "The more single tiddlers you have, the longer it 
>> will need to process them."
>>
>
> Good point. I wonder how much time are we talking about though. 
>

I think atm it's about 30-80ms ... So we don't recognise it. 
 

> Dynamically generated styles have to be re-calculated everytime you change 
>> something. 
>>
>
> Does "everytime I change something" mean "change *anything*" or does it 
> mean only when I change tiddlers involved in the dynamic listing of them, 
> i.e the stylesheets themselves?
>

As far as I can remember, it's part of the refresh cycle. So really 
everytime the UI refreshes anything. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>
> hopefully this is how I'm to post those addendums. They are at the end of 
> my original post, but it was pointed out that they might not appear to most 
> people in this group becuase it's through email. Not sure i understand 
> that, as I"m used to a forum format...but anyway, i can see the addendums 
> below this text...so not sure why others can't see it. Shall i just post 
> all of this again in one complete post?
>


You should add addendums etc as new posts. The point was just that if you 
edit an already posted post, then this edit will not be reflected for those 
who prefer to read the forum via email.

With that said, *occasionally* it does make sense to edit the very initial 
post so that *new* readers of the thread (on the board) avoid possible 
misunderstandings that were revealed later in the thread.

<:-)

>

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion into variable or something similar?

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
Hi, 
May be the view-widget  can help?
-m

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
PMario wrote:
>
>
> Nothing is for free: "The more single tiddlers you have, the longer it 
> will need to process them."
>

Good point. I wonder how much time are we talking about though. 


Dynamically generated styles have to be re-calculated everytime you change 
> something. 
>

Does "everytime I change something" mean "change *anything*" or does it 
mean only when I change tiddlers involved in the dynamic listing of them, 
i.e the stylesheets themselves?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 1:37:52 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 1:31:43 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>
>> IMO this is basically how native TW should create (aggregate) 
>> stylesheets, 
>>
>
> This is the way, how TW stylesheet handling works. ... But be aware. ... 
> Nothing is for free: "The more single tiddlers you have, the longer it will 
> need to process them."
>
> Dynamically generated styles have to be re-calculated everytime you change 
> something. 
>

With V5.1.20 ... new tag-index handling ... this should be improved. ...

Just to be sure, we are not talking about 10 tiddlers. We are talking about 
several 100. ... But anyway. Users tend to bend the borders ;)

-m

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
PMario wrote:
>
> <$list filter= ... format=text 
>

Very good stuff, Mario. IMO this bit about format should be in the docs.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 1:31:43 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> IMO this is basically how native TW should create (aggregate) stylesheets, 
>

This is the way, how TW stylesheet handling works. ... But be aware. ... 
Nothing is for free: "The more single tiddlers you have, the longer it will 
need to process them."

Dynamically generated styles have to be re-calculated everytime you change 
something. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mat
IMO this is basically how native TW should create (aggregate) stylesheets, 
i.e from multiple tiddlers that individually define specific style defs. 
One stylesheet for "the tiddler", another for "the sidebar" - or maybe 
these are also aggreagtions of smaller/more specific ones (...the tiddler 
control buttons, the sidebar segments etc).

Caution: CSS is "last called wins" so you should probably control the order 
in the list filter. If you use "[tag[foo]]" then one idea could be to check 
if foo has a list field, i.e since foo is a tag you can access it's 
children with <> and easily manipulate the order in its list 
field. 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 1:25:02 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 12:47:28 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Mario,
>>  Those solution uses CSS attribute selector! Here I need to add filters 
>> for example to filter tiddlers modified within last week!
>>
>
> Have a closer look at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Q%3A%20How%20can%20I%20use%20a%20custom%20field%20to%20style%20a%20tiddler%3F
> -m
>

The example should be like: 

<$list filter="[rank[species]]"> 
[data-tiddler-title^="<$view field=title format=text/>"] .tc-tiddler-body {
column-count: 2;
}
 

The difference is the format=text attribute, which should also avoid problems 
with special tiddler titles.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Transclusion into variable or something similar?

2019-07-01 Thread Stephan Hradek
Hi!

After quite some time I'm back to using TiddlyWiki (hopefully) a bit more 
regularly.

Seems my kowledge has rusted over the last 2 years. I cannot figure out how 
to get solved what I want to achieve.

The idea is the following: I have to create some customer information and 
in that process I have to send mails.

So while I document what I do I also want to enter the customer's data into 
my TW. The idea I have is that TW will already prepare the mail for me.

This works but I have to copy & paste the mail. Much easier would be to 
click on a prepared mailt-link which will invoke my mail program, prefilled 
with all the data.


Here is an example as to how far I came:

Tiddler "data"

name:recipient
text:the text to send

Tddler "MailText"

Hi<>!

Thisisyour text:<>.

Regards

Tiddler PreparedMail

<$set name="the_recipient" tiddler="data" index="name">
<$set name="the_text" tiddler="data" index="text">


{{MailText}}






In order to be able to create a mailto-link, I will have to apply encodeuri 
to the mailtext:

<$set name="the_recipient" tiddler="data" index="name">
<$set name="the_text" tiddler="data" index="text">

<$list filter="[[MailText]get[text]encodeuri[]]">

<>







Unfortunately encodeuri does not receive the "Transclusionresult" but the 
plain MailText and so the output of the las example will be:

Hi%20%3C%3Cthe_recipient%3E%3E!%0A%0AThis%20is%20your%20text:%20%3C%3Cthe_text%3E%3E.%0A%0ARegards

And not the required

Hi%20recipien!%0A%0AThis%20is%20your%20text:%20the%20text%20to%20send.%0A%0ARegards

Is there any way I can solve this? Can I, for exampl, get the fully 
transcluded text into a variable so that I can create a mailto-link?

Many tia…

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 12:47:28 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Mario,
>  Those solution uses CSS attribute selector! Here I need to add filters 
> for example to filter tiddlers modified within last week!
>

Have a closer look at: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Q%3A%20How%20can%20I%20use%20a%20custom%20field%20to%20style%20a%20tiddler%3F
-m

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Hi Tony!
 This is great solution! I file this!

Thank you



On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 2:24:59 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> In a similar way to Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheets I recently made 
> some buttons that use css to reveal content.
>
> See here 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/tiddlywikidev/button%7Csort:date/tiddlywikidev/0wOyn6oSJWY/C4oLQ-scCAAJ
>
> The point is however, I used a list filter to determine if some css was 
> active. Even although the css is invisible to the user
>
> <$list filter="[] -[[false]]" variable=nul>
>  <$button tooltip="Toggle field $buttonname$ to false">
>  <$action-setfield $field=<> $value="false"/>
>  <>
>  
>  
> #$buttonname$-true { display: block; }
> #$buttonname$-false { display: none; }
>   
> 
>
> So this is also conditional css
>
> <> 
>  I am on true 
>
> Regards
>
> TRony
>
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 5:24:00 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> This may be useful!
>>
>>
>>  Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheets 
>>
>> How create CSS dynamically in Tiddlywiki?Use TW scrippting elements to 
>> generate a stylesheet dynamically!
>> Example
>>
>> Assume you have some tiddlers contains CSS but NOT tagged with 
>> $:/tags/Stylesheet. It is also possible to add more tiddlers (for 
>> example those added by users), you can create a stylesheet by dynamic 
>> populating CSS from those tiddlers.
>>
>> As an example, we have three diffent tiddlers each have some CSS and 
>> tagged with exmp64 , to create a dynamic stylesheet create a tiddler as 
>> below
>>
>>- title: what you want
>>- tag: $:/tags/Stylesheet
>>- text:
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[exmp64]]">
>> <$transclude/>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Will be available in TW-Scripts
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Mario,
 Those solution uses CSS attribute selector! Here I need to add filters for 
example to filter tiddlers modified within last week!

/Mohammad

On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 2:39:15 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 11:48:54 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Can we also apply CSS to a tiddler through viewtemplate?
>>
>> For example I want to apply certain CSS (like red border, special fonts) 
>> for tiddlers tagged with myTag and* modified within last week*!
>>
>
> Follow the link for more "custom CSS 
> 
> ".
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Map

2019-07-01 Thread Chems

Ty,

will try!


Am Sonntag, 30. Juni 2019 23:46:27 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>
> Hi Chems
>
> TiddlyMap is a project from one individual, Felix Kupper / Felix Hayashi. 
> I doubt anyone else can answer but he is, as far as I know, not very active 
> in the community. At least he is not seen in this discussion group. If I 
> were you, I'd post an issue go the TiddlyMap github repo. He is a very 
> friendly guys so if he can, he will probably reply.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 11:48:54 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Can we also apply CSS to a tiddler through viewtemplate?
>
> For example I want to apply certain CSS (like red border, special fonts) 
> for tiddlers tagged with myTag and* modified within last week*!
>

Follow the link for more "custom CSS 

".

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: my backstage gone after downloading/installing plugins

2019-07-01 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Just to add that it's not enough to delete and re-install TiddlyDesktop. One 
also needs to delete the application data folder. The location of the folder 
depends on your operating system, though. On Macs it's in ~/Library/Application 
Support/TiddlyDesktop, and I believe it's 
C:\Users[YOUR_USER_NAME]\AppData\Local\TiddlyWiki on Windows.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> On 1 Jul 2019, at 05:51, TonyM  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kelli,
> 
> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I suggest 
> deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly desktops 
> backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, I suggest do not touch it.
> 
> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere in 
> you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want to 
> create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open 
> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and 
> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make changes to you 
> wiki as you want.
> 
> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will result 
> in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to list in 
> TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop 
> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
> 
> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
> Has its own built in browser
> Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on regular browsers 
> because of security)
> Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have not tested 
> this)
> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try 
> https://noteself.github.io/ online
> 
> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to open 
> and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser. Some 
> prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools available in 
> their favorite browser.
> 
> Best of luck
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>> Is this where i can get help? 
>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS 
>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and 
>> i'm at the starting line.
>> So.
>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was starting 
>> to make sense.
>> 
>> then i added some of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing 
>> came back. 
>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to start 
>> it again. 
>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on backstage 
>> button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and nothing 
>> opened. no backstage.
>> 
>> 
>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive and 
>> still nothing. 
>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard drive, 
>> and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>> 
>> did i somehow delete everything?
>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need to 
>> just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html file?
>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>> 
>> ADDENDUM:
>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these errors.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the tiddlers i 
>> created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't lost, I WAS. :) 
>> 
>> 
>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins, and 
>> also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did before 
>> could use help with that.
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread TonyM
Mohammad,

In a similar way to Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheets I recently made 
some buttons that use css to reveal content.

See here 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/tiddlywikidev/button%7Csort:date/tiddlywikidev/0wOyn6oSJWY/C4oLQ-scCAAJ

The point is however, I used a list filter to determine if some css was 
active. Even although the css is invisible to the user

<$list filter="[] -[[false]]" variable=nul>
 <$button tooltip="Toggle field $buttonname$ to false">
 <$action-setfield $field=<> $value="false"/>
 <>
 
 
#$buttonname$-true { display: block; }
#$buttonname$-false { display: none; }
  


So this is also conditional css

<> 
 I am on true 

Regards

TRony


On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 5:24:00 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> This may be useful!
>
>
>  Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheets 
>
> How create CSS dynamically in Tiddlywiki?Use TW scrippting elements to 
> generate a stylesheet dynamically!
> Example
>
> Assume you have some tiddlers contains CSS but NOT tagged with 
> $:/tags/Stylesheet. It is also possible to add more tiddlers (for example 
> those added by users), you can create a stylesheet by dynamic populating 
> CSS from those tiddlers.
>
> As an example, we have three diffent tiddlers each have some CSS and 
> tagged with exmp64 , to create a dynamic stylesheet create a tiddler as 
> below
>
>- title: what you want
>- tag: $:/tags/Stylesheet
>- text:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[exmp64]]">
> <$transclude/>
> 
>
>
> Will be available in TW-Scripts
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Mario!

Can we also apply CSS to a tiddler through viewtemplate?

For example I want to apply certain CSS (like red border, special fonts) 
for tiddlers tagged with myTag and* modified within last week*!

--Mohammad

On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 2:04:41 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> uups I was wrong. It needs to be like this: 
>
>
>- title: what you want
>- tag: $:/tags/Stylesheet
>- text:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[exmp64]]">
> <$transclude/>
> 
>
>
> And the tiddler that contains the CSS code needs the pragma. ... Have a 
> look at the added "prettylink" rule
>
> \rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline macrodef 
> macrocallinline macrocallblock prettylink
>
> /*
> [[Link to the docs]]
> */
>
> .test-style { 
> color: red;
> }
>
> The above is valid CSS and the prettylink will be active. 
>
> -mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 11:36:19 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
 

> Including additional rules, that are wikified is difficult. .. You need to 
> be sure, that it doesn't accidentally wikify CSS code. Since the browser 
> CSS parser will silently fail. 
>

Eg: A link like this will fool the brower css parser: [[test */]]

-m

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
Hi, 

Including additional rules, that are wikified is difficult. .. You need to 
be sure, that it doesn't accidentally wikify CSS code. Since the browser 
CSS parser will silently fail. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
uups I was wrong. It needs to be like this: 


   - title: what you want
   - tag: $:/tags/Stylesheet
   - text:

<$list filter="[tag[exmp64]]">
<$transclude/>



And the tiddler that contains the CSS code needs the pragma. ... Have a 
look at the added "prettylink" rule

\rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline macrodef 
macrocallinline macrocallblock prettylink

/*
[[Link to the docs]]
*/

.test-style { 
color: red;
}

The above is valid CSS and the prettylink will be active. 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Installing TW5Bob.exe nightmare

2019-07-01 Thread Jed Carty
More information is needed for a useful response.

Some tips for how to submit an effective bug report are here: 
https://www.ooktech.xyz:8443/Public#How%20to%20make%20a%20good%20bug%20report

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
Many thanks Mario!
I file this in TW-Scripts.

One more question:
Using this parame does it allow to put extra text/wikitext in the 
stylesheet tiddler?
How about the transcluded tiddlers?

--Mohammad


On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 11:59:27 AM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi, you should add this at the top of your dyn stylesheet. 
>
> \rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline macrodef 
> macrocallinline macrocallblock
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[exmp64]]">
> <$transclude/>
> 
>
>
> It will help you avoid problems with unwanted wikitext elements in the 
> resulting CSS. 
>
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread PMario
Hi, you should add this at the top of your dyn stylesheet. 

\rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline macrodef 
macrocallinline macrocallblock


<$list filter="[tag[exmp64]]">
<$transclude/>



It will help you avoid problems with unwanted wikitext elements in the 
resulting CSS. 

-mario

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[tw5] Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheet

2019-07-01 Thread Mohammad
This may be useful!


 Dynamic and Conditional Stylesheets 

How create CSS dynamically in Tiddlywiki?Use TW scrippting elements to 
generate a stylesheet dynamically!
Example

Assume you have some tiddlers contains CSS but NOT tagged with 
$:/tags/Stylesheet. It is also possible to add more tiddlers (for example 
those added by users), you can create a stylesheet by dynamic populating 
CSS from those tiddlers.

As an example, we have three diffent tiddlers each have some CSS and tagged 
with exmp64 , to create a dynamic stylesheet create a tiddler as below

   - title: what you want
   - tag: $:/tags/Stylesheet
   - text:

<$list filter="[tag[exmp64]]">
<$transclude/>



Will be available in TW-Scripts

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