[tw5] Re: Query: Legal TiddlyWiki Dates?

[Mohammad]

Hi Mark,
 I did not followed this thread!
By the may many thanks for giving the solution in a wiki!
I bookmarked this thread and will also doc it on TW-Scripts.

--Mohammad

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:41:51 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think Mohammad said he was going to post the date macros on his script 
> site, but I don't see them at the moment.
>
> Here's another home, if you're interested:
>
>
> https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Date%20Conversion%20Macros
>
> There have been other date manipulation macros, but these use no 
> javascript and have a nice long date range,
> though maybe only for the last 2000 years. 
>
> Because they're actually based on , mm, and dd numbers, it should be 
> possible
> to create an input for them rather easily. 
>
> I feel that the date filter operators inside of TW were made for the 
> internal needs of TW, not
> necessarily for the general user. The 1899 limitation is just one case in 
> point. There's nothing in the core, 
> for instance, that would allow you to calculate all the dates in a 10 day 
> range, or to
> calculate the difference between two dates.
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:22:49 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Tony, tx. Good to have a challenge!
>>
>> It got clear its pragmatically an issue for dates prior to 1899. So I 
>> will have to add a field for older works.
>>
>> I'm still not bothered for anything after that on creation date. I don't 
>> see the problem. 
>>
>> Probably my laziness to never do anything a different way IF you can do 
>> it with existing tools.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Monday, 24 February 2020 23:20:08 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> TT,
>>>
>>> I do which to express a different view point in the sprite of 
>>> collaborative diversity.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your concern. But I don't think it is an issue in the 
 particular use case. E.g. excerpts of scripts written in 1957. Works fine. 
 That dating identifies them well without need of an additional field.

>>>  
>>> See my most recent post why I think it is a problem 
>>> I am happy to help with you making use of an additional field.
>>>
>>>
 User created Tiddler dating would work as normal. I can't see a problem?

>>>  
>>> Perhaps you could not see the problem, thus I respectfully suggest their 
>>> is. 
>>>

 In any case, I intended the OP to be about better understanding the 
 limits on dates in TW. I'm interested in that.

>
>>
>>> This is precisely what I am suggesting , the limits, and the limits or a 
>>> de facto standard should in my view not use the system date/and time for 
>>> something they are not.
>>>
>>> Lets import some great date handling libraries and make it easy to 
>>> develop and use such dates. For example the mear existence of a 
>>> "historical" date in a tiddler already provides information that is for 
>>> historical information which enriches the solution rather than degrade the 
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

[Birthe C]

In the tiddler "Start" you will find the necessary tiddlers listed. Drag 
and drop them into you own tiddlywiki and save.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: SVG animation with JavaScript

[Mohamed Amin]

Thanks a lot Thomas for your replay, also your wiki is AMAZING I'll 
definitely play with it 

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 11:39:20 PM UTC+2, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Mohamed
>
> It might not be possible to use Javascript in order to manipulate 
> appearance (of anything, not only SVG) within TiddlyWiki – at least not in 
> a convenient way.
>
> On the other hand: It should be possible to animate SVG without JS. I do 
> not fully understand this (yet) myself, but as an example you can 
> copy-paste the code below into my SVG editor on 
> https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html
>
> Have fun!
> Thomas
>
>
> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;>
>  "strokeWidth" markerWidth="2" markerHeight="2" opacity="0.75" orient=
> "auto">
>stroke-width="1" stroke-linejoin="round">
>values="M 0 0 L 10 5 0 10 3 5 0 0; M 10 0 L 12 5 10 10 0 5 10 0; M 0 0 L 
> 10 5 0 10 3 5 0 0"/>
>   
>   
> 
>   
> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; x1="15" y1="55" x2="80" y2="40" 
> stroke-width="25" stroke="green" marker-end="url(#Arrow)"/>
>  http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; transform=
> "scale(1),translate(-10,20)">
>   marker-start="url(#Arrow)" marker-mid="url(#Arrow)" stroke-width="2" 
> stroke-linejoin="round">
>   
>   
>   
> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xlink:href="#Q" xmlns:xlink="
> http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; transform="translate(20,80),scale(4)"/>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

[Gerald Weis]

Hello Mark

i have found it.
Now i want import Mathcell in my wiki.
But i not found how i can do that.

i'm using Tiddlywiki 5.21.
in the wiki mathcell are the information version 5.14.

can i use drag and drop?

Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 21:39:57 UTC+1 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> After some research, I think it's from this:
>
> http://mathcell.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:18:36 PM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>
>> hello Morgaine,
>>
>> where can i find the "eval"Makro?
>> wich plugin i must have in use?
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 07:21:09 UTC+1 schrieb Morgaine O'Herne:
>>>
>>> I did it like this:  All of the data in the columns is in the Fields.  
>>>  You can see this at http://morgensharn.tiddlyspot.com. The tiddler is 
>>> "Eriel - Armor Weight."
>>>
>>> @@.table
>>> |ITEM|WEIGHT|
>>> |{{!!a1}}|{{!!b1}}|
>>> |{{!!a2}}|{{!!b2}}|
>>> |{{!!a3}}|{{!!b3}}|
>>> |{{!!a4}}|{{!!b4}}|
>>> |{{!!a5}}|{{!!b5}}|
>>> |{{!!a6}}|{{!!b6}}|
>>> |{{!!a7}}|{{!!b7}}|
>>> |{{!!a8}}|{{!!b8}}|
>>> |{{!!a9}}|{{!!b9}}|
>>> |{{!!a10}}|{{!!b10}}|
>>> |TOTAL|<$macrocall $name="eval"  
>>> cell="(=!!b1+!!b2+!!b3+!!b4+!!b5+!!b6+!!b7+!!b8+!!b9+!!b10)" format="2" 
>>> target="armor">|
>>> @@
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 12:49:12 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:

 Hi Folks

 i have a table with 2 columns of numbers.
 now i want to have the sum from every columns.

 the Position of the sum shoud be above or below the columns.

 I have no solution found for this.


 Any Ideas?

 thanks for all

>>>

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[tw5] Re: force set width on multi-line edit-text widget

[Justin Hurd]

Nevermind, I tinkered with some css, and found a solution that works for me!

!!!Notes:

<$edit-text tiddler="Notepad" placeholder="Type Notes Here."  rows="10"  
minHeight="10em" class="my-extended-memory-field"/>


.my-extended-memory-field 
{width: 95%;
overflow-y: scroll;
max-height: 200px;
min-height: 250px;
position: static;
top: 100px;
}




On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 11:49:08 PM UTC-5, Justin Hurd wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas, I know this is a fairly old post, but is there a way to have 
> this with a scrollbar instead of it constantly expanding downward?
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:32:00 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi Egbert
>>
>> Here comes my suggestion for your task: A conditional view template as I 
>> have learned 
>>  it 
>> from Tobias Beer. This way we make something that shows up on any tiddler 
>> meeting predefined conditions. The condition I use is that a tiddler must 
>> be tagged with a tag ExampleTag so that the notes are shown. Of course 
>> you can change this to something more meanigful in your case like 
>> "joboffer". 
>>
>> Ingredients for this receipe: a tag, some wikitext code, a list-after 
>> field.
>>
>> a) Your template tiddler must be tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate 
>>
>> b) In the text field we put this:
>>
>> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[ExampleTag]]">
>> <$set name="tid" value="Notes-for-$(currentTiddler)$">
>> <$edit-text tiddler=<> placeholder="Your text goes here" 
>> default="The tiddler for storage will be created automagically." rows="10" 
>> minHeight="10em" class="my-extended-memory-field"/>
>> Notes go here: <$link to=<>><>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> .my-extended-memory-field {
>>width: 100%;
>> }
>> 
>> 
>>
>> c) create a field for your tiddler, call it list-after and enter this as 
>> value: $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags
>>
>> After you have created this tiddler you can tag any tiddler you like with 
>> "ExampleTag" and it will show a field for notes after saving. 
>>
>> New elements in this solution: 
>> * the <$list filter part shows it’s content only if the condition with 
>> the tag is met.
>> * the <$set statement creates a variable tid that contains the title for 
>> the storage tiddler. You can change the prefix *Notes-for-* if you like.
>> * UPDATE: the list-after field defines, where our notes appear in the 
>> view template: right after the tags.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Thomas
>>
>> ((Updtate 2: Removed attachment, that was an old version))
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: force set width on multi-line edit-text widget

[Justin Hurd]

Hi Thomas, I know this is a fairly old post, but is there a way to have 
this with a scrollbar instead of it constantly expanding downward?

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:32:00 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Egbert
>
> Here comes my suggestion for your task: A conditional view template as I 
> have learned 
>  it 
> from Tobias Beer. This way we make something that shows up on any tiddler 
> meeting predefined conditions. The condition I use is that a tiddler must 
> be tagged with a tag ExampleTag so that the notes are shown. Of course 
> you can change this to something more meanigful in your case like 
> "joboffer". 
>
> Ingredients for this receipe: a tag, some wikitext code, a list-after 
> field.
>
> a) Your template tiddler must be tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate 
>
> b) In the text field we put this:
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[ExampleTag]]">
> <$set name="tid" value="Notes-for-$(currentTiddler)$">
> <$edit-text tiddler=<> placeholder="Your text goes here" 
> default="The tiddler for storage will be created automagically." rows="10" 
> minHeight="10em" class="my-extended-memory-field"/>
> Notes go here: <$link to=<>><>
> 
>
> 
> .my-extended-memory-field {
>width: 100%;
> }
> 
> 
>
> c) create a field for your tiddler, call it list-after and enter this as 
> value: $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags
>
> After you have created this tiddler you can tag any tiddler you like with 
> "ExampleTag" and it will show a field for notes after saving. 
>
> New elements in this solution: 
> * the <$list filter part shows it’s content only if the condition with 
> the tag is met.
> * the <$set statement creates a variable tid that contains the title for 
> the storage tiddler. You can change the prefix *Notes-for-* if you like.
> * UPDATE: the list-after field defines, where our notes appear in the 
> view template: right after the tags.
>
> Good luck!
> Thomas
>
> ((Updtate 2: Removed attachment, that was an old version))
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Except for that teensy detail, it's OK, right?

I should never try this before my 7th cup of coffee.

Ok, I think it's working now.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 6:35:05 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark, but this seems to do what my checkboxes already do, correct?
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:16:11 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> This works according to your description:
>>
>>
>> https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Use%20checkboxes%20like%20radio%20buttons%20for%20tagging
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:46:30 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Mark and Thomas,
>>>
>>> This is all still well beyond me, and not enough for tiddlywiki.com 
>>> documentation to be complete, but thank you for your replies. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:

 @Mark Well, the tag field is a field ... radios can handle a field. 
 Did you see my last post? 



 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki  schrieb am Do., 
 27. Feb. 2020, 23:14:

> @Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't 
> have a documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an 
> action attribute).
>
> @Dave
>
> I think the technique I developed for this thread
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ
>
> could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a 
> dummy field so the presentation is 
> controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses 
> checkaction and uncheckaction
> to actually change tag state. 
>
> The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times 
> when you went
> to see two reference presentations at once?
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am 
>> suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons 
>>> instead of checkboxes: 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget
>>>
>>> All the best, 
>>> Thomas
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[David Gifford]

Thanks Mark, but this seems to do what my checkboxes already do, correct?

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:16:11 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This works according to your description:
>
>
> https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Use%20checkboxes%20like%20radio%20buttons%20for%20tagging
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:46:30 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mark and Thomas,
>>
>> This is all still well beyond me, and not enough for tiddlywiki.com 
>> documentation to be complete, but thank you for your replies. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>>
>>> @Mark Well, the tag field is a field ... radios can handle a field. 
>>> Did you see my last post? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki  schrieb am Do., 
>>> 27. Feb. 2020, 23:14:
>>>
 @Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't 
 have a documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an 
 action attribute).

 @Dave

 I think the technique I developed for this thread

 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ

 could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a 
 dummy field so the presentation is 
 controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses 
 checkaction and uncheckaction
 to actually change tag state. 

 The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times 
 when you went
 to see two reference presentations at once?



 On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am 
> suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead 
>> of checkboxes: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget
>>
>> All the best, 
>> Thomas
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This works according to your description:

https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Use%20checkboxes%20like%20radio%20buttons%20for%20tagging

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:46:30 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark and Thomas,
>
> This is all still well beyond me, and not enough for tiddlywiki.com 
> documentation to be complete, but thank you for your replies. 
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> @Mark Well, the tag field is a field ... radios can handle a field. 
>> Did you see my last post? 
>>
>>
>>
>> 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki  schrieb am Do., 27. 
>> Feb. 2020, 23:14:
>>
>>> @Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't have 
>>> a documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an action 
>>> attribute).
>>>
>>> @Dave
>>>
>>> I think the technique I developed for this thread
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ
>>>
>>> could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a 
>>> dummy field so the presentation is 
>>> controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses checkaction 
>>> and uncheckaction
>>> to actually change tag state. 
>>>
>>> The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times 
>>> when you went
>>> to see two reference presentations at once?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:

 Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am 
 suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.

 On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger 
 wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead 
> of checkboxes: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget
>
> All the best, 
> Thomas
>
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>>> .
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Julio Peña]

>
> Hopefully this time things don't get so ugly.
>

Let's pray it doesn't.

Best wishes,
Julio 

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[tw5] Re: Remove Tag Icon

[plaseo]

Once again, thank you Eric that worked perfectly!

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:13:57 AM UTC-6, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:09:34 PM UTC-8, plaseo wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Eric that worked! 
>> Also thank you for the Tiddly Tools site, just discovered from your reply 
>> to my question and it looks like a great resource. 
>> I'm wondering if there's a way to hide tags in view mode when not editing 
>> a tiddler? I'm wanting just a bit cleaner look but almost have it just the 
>> way I'd like it. 
>>
>
> Create a tiddler with any title (e.g., "MyStyles") and tag it with 
> "$:/tags/Stylesheet"
> Then, in the text field of that tiddler, enter:
> .tc-tags-wrapper { display:none; }
>
> This defines a CSS rule that overrides the default tags display style when 
> *viewing* a tiddler.  The tags will still be visible when *editing* a 
> tiddler because that tags display uses a different CSS class 
> (.tc-edit-tags).
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[David Gifford]

Thanks Mark and Thomas,

This is all still well beyond me, and not enough for tiddlywiki.com 
documentation to be complete, but thank you for your replies. 

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> @Mark Well, the tag field is a field ... radios can handle a field. 
> Did you see my last post? 
>
>
>
> 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki > 
> schrieb am Do., 27. Feb. 2020, 23:14:
>
>> @Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't have 
>> a documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an action 
>> attribute).
>>
>> @Dave
>>
>> I think the technique I developed for this thread
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ
>>
>> could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a 
>> dummy field so the presentation is 
>> controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses checkaction 
>> and uncheckaction
>> to actually change tag state. 
>>
>> The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times when 
>> you went
>> to see two reference presentations at once?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am 
>>> suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:

 Hi David,

 If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead 
 of checkboxes: 
 https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget

 All the best, 
 Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Xabriña]

Hi everyone.

I usually read you often to learn, but rarely have I participated in the 
forum. However, on this occasion I consider that I must pronounce myself 
after reading Mohammad's message that I subscribe 100%.

In this world where everything is so interconnected, in which we can travel 
from one end of the planet to the other, a disease like CoV can do a lot of 
damage. On the one hand we have people who get sick as a result of the 
virus and on the other hand the episodes of panic that are occurring in 
various parts of the planet. Shortage of food, masks, etc ... Hopefully 
everything remains in a scare and ends soon.

Here in Spain there have already been the first cases of infected, the 
first were from people who had been in the affected areas of Italy, but 
today they are already appearing in people who have not traveled abroad ...

And I totally agree with TiddlyTweeter. If the virus mutates as it happened 
with the badly called Spanish Flu, which did not originate in Spain, the 
thing would get very bad. The mortality rate of those infected ranged 
between 10% and 20%. The 1918 flu spread rapidly and killed 25 million 
people in the first six months alone. In total, about 500 million people 
became ill, one third of the world's population at that time. This death 
toll meant that almost 3% of the world's population died.

Although as with all things we have to take into account the context in 
which everything happened, the First World War with its consequences and 
still precarious health systems.

Hopefully this time things don't get so ugly.

Greetings.


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Re: [tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Our mails just missed each other by 4 minutes ;-)

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:24:08 PM UTC-8, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> @Mark Well, the tag field is a field ... radios can handle a field. 
> Did you see my last post? 
>
>
>
> 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki  schrieb am Do., 
> 27. Feb. 2020, 23:14:
>
>> @Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't have 
>> a documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an action 
>> attribute).
>>
>> @Dave
>>
>> I think the technique I developed for this thread
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ
>>
>> could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a 
>> dummy field so the presentation is 
>> controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses checkaction 
>> and uncheckaction
>> to actually change tag state. 
>>
>> The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times when 
>> you went
>> to see two reference presentations at once?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am 
>>> suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:

 Hi David,

 If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead 
 of checkboxes: 
 https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget

 All the best, 
 Thomas

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Re: [tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

@Mark Well, the tag field is a field ... radios can handle a field.
Did you see my last post?



'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki  schrieb am Do., 27.
Feb. 2020, 23:14:

> @Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't have a
> documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an action
> attribute).
>
> @Dave
>
> I think the technique I developed for this thread
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ
>
> could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a dummy
> field so the presentation is
> controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses checkaction
> and uncheckaction
> to actually change tag state.
>
> The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times when
> you went
> to see two reference presentations at once?
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am
>> suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead of
>>> checkboxes:
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Thomas
>>>
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[tw5] Re: TEST your tiddlywiki knowledge

[TonyM]

Great Idea,

I was thinking, of the answers, If marking the answers are only available 
through actually doing them on a wiki, references to tiddlywiki.com or a 
package of test data to complement the questions. This is a great learning 
experience especially when the answers right or wrong have usable 
information in them.

Love your work Luis
Tony

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 12:20:45 AM UTC+11, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Here you have the next release of The-Book.
>
>
> I have done this little test with the best intention and humor. Use it to 
> check your knowledge about Tiddlywiki.
>
>
> *TEST*
>
> 1. You have a Tiddlywiki to store information about your favorite 
> programming language. It is full of CamelCase words and tiddliwiki converts 
> them to links. This is very annoying, because those links do not exist. 
> What is the easiest way to solve the problem?
> a) You have to begin each CamelCase word with a ~ .
> b) You can use the “\pragma” sentence to deactivate all wikitext 
> format.
> c) You can use the “\pragma except wikilinik” sentence to 
> deactivate the CamelCase detection.
> d) You can use the “\rules excect wikilink” sentence to deactivate 
> the CamelCase detection.
>
>
>
> 2. Your very rich significant other has passed away. You find her(his) 
> testament in a Tiddlywiki file. Unfortunately, her ex-boyfriend(his 
> ex-girlfriend) has hidden all controls and buttons to manage the wiki, so 
> you can't read it. What can you do?
> a) There is no problem. You can use the DragAndDrop mechanism to 
> import all tiddlers to other file.
> b) You can't read the testament. You have lost the heritage.
> c) You have to hire a group of hackers to analyze the html file.
> d) You must call Jeremy. Only he has the resources to recover the 
> information.
>
>
>
> 3. You are using Tiddlywiki in a html file opened with Firefox without 
> complements or other applications loaded. You have spent two hours adding 
> information to your tiddlywiki. Tired, you close the browser without 
> reading a message that appeared on the screen. The next time you open your 
> tiddliwiki file it is empty. What can you do?
> a) There is no problem. You can use the DragAndDrop mechanism to 
> import all tiddlers to other file.
> b) You have lost all the information.
> c) You have to hire a group of hackers to analyze the html file.
> d) You must call Jeremy. Only he has the resources to recover the 
> information.
>
>
>
> 4. You need a list of all your tags (sorted alphabetically) followed by 
> the number of tiddlers tagged with it. Write a macro.
>
>
>
> 5. You have a todo tiddlywiki. You have many people, tiddlers tagged with 
> “person” whose title is his name. And you have the tasks, tiddlers tagged 
> with “task”. Each time you assign a task to a person you tag the task with 
> the name of the person. How do you find all tasks not assigned to anyone?
>
>
> 
> 6. You have a macro to show the title and content of a tiddler in a 
> little square: 
> \define content(tidd:"")
> 
> 
> <$link to=<>>
> <>
> 
> 
> 
> <$transclude tiddler=<> mode="block"/>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
> but it does not produce any output. What happens?
> a) You have to add the default value for the tidd attribute.
> b) You have to use $tidd$ as a placeholder for your attribute.
> c) You have to use <<__tidd__>> as a placeholder for your 
> attribute.
> d) There is no “block” mode for transclusions.
>
>
>
> 7. You manage your business with some tiddlywikis. One of them is to 
> control staff. You add all people tagged with his position in the company. 
> For all the managers you want to show in its tiddlers the staff that 
> depends on him, the resources assigned to it and some more fields, in 
> addition to the information of its tiddler. What is the best?
> a) Write the macro “manager” and add <> to each manager 
> at the end of the tiddler content
> b) Use a Conditional View Template for the “manager” tag with the 
> information you need to include.
> c) Use the css { display:none; } for all tiddlers not tagged whit 
> the “manager” tag.
> d) You have to write all this information manually.
>
>
>
> 8. You want to add an icon in few tiddlers. You want the icon to appears 
> next to the title. What's the easy?
> a) Use a Conditional View Template and add the icon in this 
> template.
> b) This is a feature already incorporated in tw. Add the icon you 
> want in the icon field of the tiddler.
> c) Modify the View Template to show the icon.
> d) Write a macro with the icon tiddler as a parameter and add this 
> macro to the tiddler.
>
>
>
> 9. Before saving, you deleted the tiddler “$:/core/modules/startup.js” of 
> a tiddlywiki file.
> a) ¡No problem!. It is a shadow tiddler and Tiddlywiki will 
> restore it again.
> b) You have crashed 

[tw5] Re: new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph

[TonyM]

Mario,

Whilst I agree with this, 

> wikitext markup should be globally interchangeable

 
I do not think its enforcement should limit the flexibility of an editor in 
their own wiki. If content is not designed for sharing, or only shared to 
pre-configured wikis such as personal notes, then it is simply not sharable.

The plan should be to have sufficient richness in the markup to support 
interchangeability, but this comes with time, new facilities and features 
could be developed by editors for their own use and compelling solutions 
moved into global wiki markup in the fullness of time.

It makes me wonder if we need a kind of "escape character", behind which 
custom markup can be defined, but ignored if not handled by the recipient 
wiki. A field and its content could cause such an alternate markup or the 
type field. Perhaps copy to clipboard, and copy, export could include an 
option to ignore especially escaped markup.

Just some thoughts
Tony
 

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 11:08:08 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:16:08 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Codemirror allows indents/with tabs, but the render does not honor them, 
>> but here I want no indent, just a paragraph.
>>
>
> I know. ... but I do want a generic solution, that may fit more usecases.  
>
> We could create some (2) buttons that can create tabs without codemirror, 
> just for indenting paragraphs.
>
> In my case I already use ":" to indent and make an effective paragraph,
>>
>
> No you create a Description Details element 
>  ... that's 
> a different thing. ... You are basically "misusing" it, because there is no 
> visual difference. 
>
> But there is a semantic difference. eg: If you copy paste the html code 
> into a different app, that tries to make sense out of the html structure, 
> it will be confused. 
>
>
>> multiple indents as well, as you know ";" is bolded but is does what I 
>> want otherwise, but since I we are dealing with paragraphs it seems best to 
>> use the html P tag. At one point I removed the bold with ;.p where p was a 
>> class name that unbolded it. But ;.p is surprisingly distracting. 
>>
>
> Yea distraction was the main point why I didn't like the . dot at the 
> start of the line. ... But you are right. If there are more elements like 
> ;.p it is even worse. ... 
>
> ;.p looks like an emoji  ;p
>
> I was thinking about the ´ tick, because it's also a small character. ... 
> I don't know, what's better.
>  
>
>> I notice that using period as the second character to ;.classname and 
>> :.classname works, so theoretically ..classname could also work while 
>> rendering the text in an un-indented paragraph.
>>
>
> You are right it should work for un-indented paragraphs. If ... means 
> paragraph level 3, it won't work for ...test  paragraph level 2, since the 
> parser can't recognize the difference between level 2-with-class and level 3
>  
>
>> But I am not wedded to period, however it is nicely easy to access on the 
>> keyboard (no shift) and it is often so unassuming if it was at the 
>> beginning of a paragraph (not wikifield) it is almost unnoticeable.
>>
>
> ... keyborad layout and character access is a thing. ... that's right. 
>  
>
>> One idea is what if we used an invisible character? eg; non breaking 
>> space, one that is otherwise ignored?, the only question is how do we get a 
>> single key entry, and ideally display while editing raw text.
>>
>
> I'm not a big fan of invisible "formatting", but for some things, we don't 
> have a choice. ... The [tab] at the beginning of a line will be visible in 
> edit mode. ... but it would look the same as if you did 8 spaces. ... But 
> nobody makes 8 spaces at the start of a line. right ;)
>  
> I did also experiment with a new hard-linebreak inline-parsing-rule. using 
>  ... that will be translated to 
>
> It works nicely, but has very high potential for misuse, which will cause 
> a lot of maintenance cost (for the users) in the long run. 
>
> I also created .q and .a classes to highlight Questions and their Dnswers 
>> differently and this also allowed the Questions and answers in a long text 
>> to be listed in a footer. 
>>
>
> ok
>  
>
>> With matching I listed unanswered Questions. You can see here, this 
>> provides an ad hoc way for an author to add annotations,
>>
>
> There is an html element for annotations. : The Aside element 
>  ,where 
> the default ARIA role is complementary. 
>
> classification and formatting details to their content as they write, a 
>> bit like a home grown shorthand, which is what markup is all about. 
>>
>
> I'm not sure what you mean with classification. ... but it could be : 
> The Description Term element 
> 
>  
>
>> I may also add when trying to take notes in a class or watching a 

[tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

@Thomas -- the radio button doesn't bind to tag fields, and doesn't have a 
documented action attribute (though I think all widgets inherit an action 
attribute).

@Dave

I think the technique I developed for this thread

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O5Mg0naxHl4/RW19q37HAQAJ

could be adapted for your use. Basically, it binds the checkbox to a dummy 
field so the presentation is 
controlled by the code and not by the relation. Then it uses checkaction 
and uncheckaction
to actually change tag state. 

The question that immediately comes to mind is, won't there be times when 
you went
to see two reference presentations at once?



On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am 
> suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead of 
>> checkboxes: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget
>>
>> All the best, 
>> Thomas
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

Yeah, I see. You would have to change the whole logic. 

At the moment you create a list of tiddlers:

$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refscontext 

 
$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refslinks 

 
$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludeclean 

 
$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse 

 

... and manipulate one of them via checkbox (set/remove the viewtemplate 
tag). That’s fine for a list of tiddlers. You could use buttons instead 
that do the same PLUS remove the viewtemplate tag from all others. Note: 
Each button would need a list of *all others* for that.

To use *radio buttons* instead, you would need one new tiddler you can 
change via a set of radio buttons and where you store the title of the 
active template. The templates would always keep the viewtemplate tag.

In the view templates you would have to add a check, if the template is 
active. Something like this maybe:

<$list filter="***is this the active template?***>

   <$list 
filter="[!is[system]all[current]backlinks[]!tag[outlines]!tag[hide]sort[title]] 
-[is[current]]">
   ...
   


I really should go to bed now, I hope you get the idea.

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[tw5] Re: SVG animation with JavaScript

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mohamed

It might not be possible to use Javascript in order to manipulate 
appearance (of anything, not only SVG) within TiddlyWiki – at least not in 
a convenient way.

On the other hand: It should be possible to animate SVG without JS. I do 
not fully understand this (yet) myself, but as an example you can 
copy-paste the code below into my SVG editor on 
https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html

Have fun!
Thomas


http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;>

  
  
  
  

  
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; x1="15" y1="55" x2="80" y2="40" 
stroke-width="25" stroke="green" marker-end="url(#Arrow)"/>
 http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; transform=
"scale(1),translate(-10,20)">
 
  
  
  
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xlink:href="#Q" xmlns:xlink=
"http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; transform="translate(20,80),scale(4)"/>


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[tw5] Re: Trying to Get CSS Stylesheets Working

[Eric Shulman]

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:14:56 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>
> I tried to implement the CSS Stylesheet code in these two tutorials, but 
> it seems like the sheets were never loaded. 
> I am naming the Stylesheet tiddler this: "$:/tags/Stylesheet" like it says 
> in the tutorials.
>

That is the error.  The instructions in both tutorials say to TAG the 
tiddler with "$:/tags/Stylesheet".

Give your tiddler ANY name, but add "$:/tags/Stylesheet" as a TAG value
 

> Then I paste in the code from the tut.
> Then I set the "type" to "text/css"
>

The tutorial from TiddlyWiki.com says this:

> Usually it is best to use the type text/css for stylesheets. This treats 
> them as plain stylesheets, and ensures that TiddlyWiki doesn't apply any 
> wiki processing to them.
> If you wish to use macros and transclusions in your stylesheets you should 
> instead use the default WikiText type text/vnd.tiddlywiki. This allows full 
> WikiText processing to be performed.


Note that, as long as you don't actually use macros or transclusions in the 
stylesheet, you can leave the "type" field blank (or use 
"text/vnd.tiddlywiki") and still get the desired results.
 

> Both of these tuts mention module, but I don't see a field for that.
>

I don't find any mention of "module" in either tutorial.  Also, in general, 
if instructions *do* refer to entering a specific field, you need to 
*create* that field in the tiddler editor.  Scroll down past the tiddler's 
"text" entry area, and you will find controls like this:

Add a new field:add

 
enter the desired field name and field value and then press the "add" 
button.

Then I save the Tiddler and the whole file 
>
Then I reload the file in the browser.
>

If done properly, the effects of a stylesheet tiddler (i.e., one that is 
TAGGED with $:/tags/Stylesheet) will be applied immediately upon saving the 
tiddler, without needing to save the file and reload.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Trying to Get CSS Stylesheets Working

[David]

I tried to implement the CSS Stylesheet code in these two tutorials, but it 
seems like the sheets were never loaded. 

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw/style/#Custom%20StyleSheets

https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Using%2520Stylesheets.html

Though I'm I'm very good with CSS code, so that's not it.  Besides, I'm 
just running the simple stuff from the tutorial examples anyway.  It's not 
affecting the code in the Tiddlers.

I am naming the Stylesheet tiddler this: "$:/tags/Stylesheet" like it says 
in the tutorials.
Then I paste in the code from the tut.
Then I set the "type" to "text/css"
Both of these tuts mention module, but I don't see a field for that.
Then I save the Tiddler and the whole file
Then I reload the file in the browser.

Is there something wrong with the way I'm creating the stylesheet tiddler?

I'm mainly interested in adding some extra styles to the Heading elements.  
But for the future, it would be good to get the stylesheets working in 
general.

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[tw5] Re: Query: Smart Quotes?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mario and TT

I am a bit tired, so I just want to quickly throw in some CSS examples for 
your information. In my themes I use these to control the display of 
quotes: 

blockquote, q {
quotes: "\201C""\201D""\2018""\2019";
}

OR this for Swiss quotes: 

blockquote, q {
quotes: "\00AB""\00BB""\2039""\203A";
}

Cheers,
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[tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[David Gifford]

Thanks Thomas, but how would I use that for the kind of use cases am 
suggesting? There are no examples at that level, only brown tree frogs.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-6, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead of 
> checkboxes: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget
>
> All the best, 
> Thomas
>

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[tw5] Re: Needed: a switcher macro

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi David,

If I got your idea right, you might want to use radio buttons instead of 
checkboxes: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#RadioWidget

All the best, 
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: TEST your tiddlywiki knowledge

[Thomas Elmiger]

Interesting questions, Luis.

I miss a very simple solution for 1) though: 

– switch off CamelCase linking in $:/ControlPanel > Settings

All the best,
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mohammad wrote:
>
> Coronavirus teaches one important lesson: We (all human beings) are in the 
> same boat! Forget color, race, religion, country border, ... we need to be 
> kind to each other
> and only with public efforts we can take over this dangerous threat!
>

Very true.

But also true that sooner or later a virus will mutate into a really deadly 
form. And in a joined-up world the risks of that happening are much 
increased. 
It is the price to pay for how we live now. This virus is a marker of that 
danger.
At the moment the coronavirus is killing most the very elderly and already 
ill. The death rate is about 8% overall. Look here to see deaths by age: 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/.

Spanish flu, which devastated the world between 1918 and 1920 had a final 
total death rate of around 3%.

I do think understanding what is happening matters. It is human 
understanding that may make the difference.

Best wishes
TT




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[tw5] Re: sum of column

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

After some research, I think it's from this:

http://mathcell.tiddlyspot.com/

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:18:36 PM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:
>
> hello Morgaine,
>
> where can i find the "eval"Makro?
> wich plugin i must have in use?
>
> Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 07:21:09 UTC+1 schrieb Morgaine O'Herne:
>>
>> I did it like this:  All of the data in the columns is in the Fields.  
>>  You can see this at http://morgensharn.tiddlyspot.com. The tiddler is 
>> "Eriel - Armor Weight."
>>
>> @@.table
>> |ITEM|WEIGHT|
>> |{{!!a1}}|{{!!b1}}|
>> |{{!!a2}}|{{!!b2}}|
>> |{{!!a3}}|{{!!b3}}|
>> |{{!!a4}}|{{!!b4}}|
>> |{{!!a5}}|{{!!b5}}|
>> |{{!!a6}}|{{!!b6}}|
>> |{{!!a7}}|{{!!b7}}|
>> |{{!!a8}}|{{!!b8}}|
>> |{{!!a9}}|{{!!b9}}|
>> |{{!!a10}}|{{!!b10}}|
>> |TOTAL|<$macrocall $name="eval"  
>> cell="(=!!b1+!!b2+!!b3+!!b4+!!b5+!!b6+!!b7+!!b8+!!b9+!!b10)" format="2" 
>> target="armor">|
>> @@
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 12:49:12 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks
>>>
>>> i have a table with 2 columns of numbers.
>>> now i want to have the sum from every columns.
>>>
>>> the Position of the sum shoud be above or below the columns.
>>>
>>> I have no solution found for this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any Ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks for all
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

[Gerald Weis]

hello Morgaine,

where can i find the "eval"Makro?
wich plugin i must have in use?

Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 07:21:09 UTC+1 schrieb Morgaine O'Herne:
>
> I did it like this:  All of the data in the columns is in the Fields.  
>  You can see this at http://morgensharn.tiddlyspot.com. The tiddler is 
> "Eriel - Armor Weight."
>
> @@.table
> |ITEM|WEIGHT|
> |{{!!a1}}|{{!!b1}}|
> |{{!!a2}}|{{!!b2}}|
> |{{!!a3}}|{{!!b3}}|
> |{{!!a4}}|{{!!b4}}|
> |{{!!a5}}|{{!!b5}}|
> |{{!!a6}}|{{!!b6}}|
> |{{!!a7}}|{{!!b7}}|
> |{{!!a8}}|{{!!b8}}|
> |{{!!a9}}|{{!!b9}}|
> |{{!!a10}}|{{!!b10}}|
> |TOTAL|<$macrocall $name="eval"  
> cell="(=!!b1+!!b2+!!b3+!!b4+!!b5+!!b6+!!b7+!!b8+!!b9+!!b10)" format="2" 
> target="armor">|
> @@
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 12:49:12 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> i have a table with 2 columns of numbers.
>> now i want to have the sum from every columns.
>>
>> the Position of the sum shoud be above or below the columns.
>>
>> I have no solution found for this.
>>
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> thanks for all
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[TiddlyTweeter]

The virus is active in Northern Italy, not far from where I live. This is 
party because Northern Italy has a high ethnically Chinese population that 
travel back & forth with China regularly. The centre of infection is 
Lombardy, particularly Milano, which has the highest Chinese numbers of any 
city in the country. But the idea Italy is more affected than other 
European countries is also because Italy has one of the best healthcare 
systems in the world. In other words, detection here will likely be ahead 
of elsewhere.

Just a comment on the part of this I understand.
TT

On Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:47:28 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness 
> ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East 
> Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome 
> (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been 
> previously identified in humans.  
>
> See:
>
>1. https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus 
>2. Information about COVID-19 in #GoogleCrisisResponse 
>https://g.co/kgs/EiNSbt
>3. 
>
> https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public
>
>
> This is a dangerous threat to the whole world. After China, South Korea, 
> Italy and Iran have the highest number of active cases!
> See: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries for live 
> updates on number of infected by country!
>
> Tiddlywiki can be used to create simple advise sheets (pamphlets) to be 
> distributed through emails or WhatsApp.
> Images, Videos, PDFs, can be put in a single file and send out. Step by 
> step instructions simply can be implemented in Tiddlywiki. 
> Protocols with search features and hyperlinks can be quickly prepared in 
> Tiddlywiki.
>
> I have prepared some copy of how to protect yourself from Guardian the 
> Guardian here:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/25/how-to-protect-yourself-from-coronavirus
>
> Coronavirus teaches one important lesson: We (all human beings) are in the 
> same boat! Forget color, race, religion, country border, ... we need to be 
> kind to each other
> and only with public efforts we can take over this dangerous threat!
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[David Gifford]

¡Muchas gracias Julio!

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:59:57 PM UTC-6, Julio Peña wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
> Just read the post...Happy Birthday...wish you many more years and much 
> health!
> Felicidades hermano.
>
> all the best,
>
> Julio
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Legal TiddlyWiki Dates?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Thank you Mark

I'll use it. 

TT

On Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:11:51 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think Mohammad said he was going to post the date macros on his script 
> site, but I don't see them at the moment.
>
> Here's another home, if you're interested:
>
>
> https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Date%20Conversion%20Macros
>
> There have been other date manipulation macros, but these use no 
> javascript and have a nice long date range,
> though maybe only for the last 2000 years. 
>
> Because they're actually based on , mm, and dd numbers, it should be 
> possible
> to create an input for them rather easily. 
>
> I feel that the date filter operators inside of TW were made for the 
> internal needs of TW, not
> necessarily for the general user. The 1899 limitation is just one case in 
> point. There's nothing in the core, 
> for instance, that would allow you to calculate all the dates in a 10 day 
> range, or to
> calculate the difference between two dates.
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:22:49 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Tony, tx. Good to have a challenge!
>>
>> It got clear its pragmatically an issue for dates prior to 1899. So I 
>> will have to add a field for older works.
>>
>> I'm still not bothered for anything after that on creation date. I don't 
>> see the problem. 
>>
>> Probably my laziness to never do anything a different way IF you can do 
>> it with existing tools.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Monday, 24 February 2020 23:20:08 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> TT,
>>>
>>> I do which to express a different view point in the sprite of 
>>> collaborative diversity.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your concern. But I don't think it is an issue in the 
 particular use case. E.g. excerpts of scripts written in 1957. Works fine. 
 That dating identifies them well without need of an additional field.

>>>  
>>> See my most recent post why I think it is a problem 
>>> I am happy to help with you making use of an additional field.
>>>
>>>
 User created Tiddler dating would work as normal. I can't see a problem?

>>>  
>>> Perhaps you could not see the problem, thus I respectfully suggest their 
>>> is. 
>>>

 In any case, I intended the OP to be about better understanding the 
 limits on dates in TW. I'm interested in that.

>
>>
>>> This is precisely what I am suggesting , the limits, and the limits or a 
>>> de facto standard should in my view not use the system date/and time for 
>>> something they are not.
>>>
>>> Lets import some great date handling libraries and make it easy to 
>>> develop and use such dates. For example the mear existence of a 
>>> "historical" date in a tiddler already provides information that is for 
>>> historical information which enriches the solution rather than degrade the 
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Legal TiddlyWiki Dates?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I think Mohammad said he was going to post the date macros on his script 
site, but I don't see them at the moment.

Here's another home, if you're interested:

https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Date%20Conversion%20Macros

There have been other date manipulation macros, but these use no javascript 
and have a nice long date range,
though maybe only for the last 2000 years. 

Because they're actually based on , mm, and dd numbers, it should be 
possible
to create an input for them rather easily. 

I feel that the date filter operators inside of TW were made for the 
internal needs of TW, not
necessarily for the general user. The 1899 limitation is just one case in 
point. There's nothing in the core, 
for instance, that would allow you to calculate all the dates in a 10 day 
range, or to
calculate the difference between two dates.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:22:49 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Tony, tx. Good to have a challenge!
>
> It got clear its pragmatically an issue for dates prior to 1899. So I will 
> have to add a field for older works.
>
> I'm still not bothered for anything after that on creation date. I don't 
> see the problem. 
>
> Probably my laziness to never do anything a different way IF you can do it 
> with existing tools.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Monday, 24 February 2020 23:20:08 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> TT,
>>
>> I do which to express a different view point in the sprite of 
>> collaborative diversity.
>>
>> Thanks for your concern. But I don't think it is an issue in the 
>>> particular use case. E.g. excerpts of scripts written in 1957. Works fine. 
>>> That dating identifies them well without need of an additional field.
>>>
>>  
>> See my most recent post why I think it is a problem 
>> I am happy to help with you making use of an additional field.
>>
>>
>>> User created Tiddler dating would work as normal. I can't see a problem?
>>>
>>  
>> Perhaps you could not see the problem, thus I respectfully suggest their 
>> is. 
>>
>>>
>>> In any case, I intended the OP to be about better understanding the 
>>> limits on dates in TW. I'm interested in that.
>>>

>
>> This is precisely what I am suggesting , the limits, and the limits or a 
>> de facto standard should in my view not use the system date/and time for 
>> something they are not.
>>
>> Lets import some great date handling libraries and make it easy to 
>> develop and use such dates. For example the mear existence of a 
>> "historical" date in a tiddler already provides information that is for 
>> historical information which enriches the solution rather than degrade the 
>> solution.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[Julio Peña]

Hello David,

Just read the post...Happy Birthday...wish you many more years and much 
health!
Felicidades hermano.

all the best,

Julio

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The !! markers indicate a field reference.

AFAIK, you can not invoke a macro inside a field. 

Instead put the formula

<$macrocall $name="eval" cell="(=!!g2*12/!!f2)" format="2">

right in your template. 

BUT the macro "eval" is not part of TiddlyWiki core. It is part of some 
plugin. If you
do not have it, you need to add it in.

Perhaps Morgaine or some other person here can say where the "eval" came 
from.

Good luck



On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:20:55 AM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:
>
>
> hello Mark
> thats right 
> in the wiki are 2 cars.
> but the car with the licence-plate nk-cm-149 is completed.
> the actual car have the licence-plate nk-wg-59
>
> thats the only one car of me.
>
> i have create a tiddler as the idol from Morgaine
>
> but the formula dont work
>
>
>
> Am Sonntag, 23. Februar 2020 08:49:12 UTC+1 schrieb Gerald Weis:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> i have a table with 2 columns of numbers.
>> now i want to have the sum from every columns.
>>
>> the Position of the sum shoud be above or below the columns.
>>
>> I have no solution found for this.
>>
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> thanks for all
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[David Gifford]

Amen.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 11:47:28 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness 
> ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East 
> Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome 
> (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been 
> previously identified in humans.  
>
> See:
>
>1. https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus 
>2. Information about COVID-19 in #GoogleCrisisResponse 
>https://g.co/kgs/EiNSbt
>3. 
>
> https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public
>
>
> This is a dangerous threat to the whole world. After China, South Korea, 
> Italy and Iran have the highest number of active cases!
> See: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries for live 
> updates on number of infected by country!
>
> Tiddlywiki can be used to create simple advise sheets (pamphlets) to be 
> distributed through emails or WhatsApp.
> Images, Videos, PDFs, can be put in a single file and send out. Step by 
> step instructions simply can be implemented in Tiddlywiki. 
> Protocols with search features and hyperlinks can be quickly prepared in 
> Tiddlywiki.
>
> I have prepared some copy of how to protect yourself from Guardian the 
> Guardian here:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/25/how-to-protect-yourself-from-coronavirus
>
> Coronavirus teaches one important lesson: We (all human beings) are in the 
> same boat! Forget color, race, religion, country border, ... we need to be 
> kind to each other
> and only with public efforts we can take over this dangerous threat!
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus

[Mohammad]

Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness 
ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East 
Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome 
(SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been 
previously identified in humans.  

See:

   1. https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus 
   2. Information about COVID-19 in #GoogleCrisisResponse 
   https://g.co/kgs/EiNSbt
   3. 
   
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public


This is a dangerous threat to the whole world. After China, South Korea, 
Italy and Iran have the highest number of active cases!
See: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries for live updates 
on number of infected by country!

Tiddlywiki can be used to create simple advise sheets (pamphlets) to be 
distributed through emails or WhatsApp.
Images, Videos, PDFs, can be put in a single file and send out. Step by 
step instructions simply can be implemented in Tiddlywiki. 
Protocols with search features and hyperlinks can be quickly prepared in 
Tiddlywiki.

I have prepared some copy of how to protect yourself from Guardian the 
Guardian here:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/25/how-to-protect-yourself-from-coronavirus

Coronavirus teaches one important lesson: We (all human beings) are in the 
same boat! Forget color, race, religion, country border, ... we need to be 
kind to each other
and only with public efforts we can take over this dangerous threat!


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: where are the checkbox images used by the checkbox widget?

['steve' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Eric

I'll look into using  instead of images in the 
toggle-in-field macro suggested by Mat from another thread about using 
checkboxes to add/delete items in a field.

Thanks
Steve W

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[tw5] Needed: a switcher macro

[David Gifford]

Hi all

Maybe this does exist, but I haven't seen it, and don't see documentation 
to create it.

The tiddlywiki.com documentation has stuff on how to create a 'toggle 
on-off' button with the checkboxwidget.

But there seems to be no documented way to choose from two or more options 
with checkboxes. That is, to switch themes, switch viewtemplates, switch 
palettes, etc, a series of options where if you choose one option, the 
other options are unchosen and turned off.

I am thinking, of course, of 
https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FViewToolbar%2Fviewrefscheckboxes.
 
It would be nice to press one button instead of two, to switch between 
viewtemplates shown.

But having a tool like that, and documented on tiddlywiki.com, would also 
be helpful for switching between themes, palettes and stylesheets, just to 
name three other use cases. TiddlyBlink isn't the only time I have run up 
against this barrier.

In case anyone is up to something like that...

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[David Gifford]

Thanks and thanks, Mohammad!

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 11:22:45 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> David!
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:29:14 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> Two comments:
>>
>> 1. Today is my birthday, so hearing you will work on it is a great 
>> birthday present! Thanks!
>>
>
> *Happy your birthday!!*
> Live many years with full health and happiness!
>  
>
>>
>> 2. It would be great if for each file the user could have a system 
>> tiddler like $:/searchwiki/filepath where to insert the URL or filepath. 
>> Then have have build-and-export 'Make index' button grab that filepath and 
>> insert it into an index-source field. That way the updating process only 
>> involves opening the file, clicking Make index > tid file, and dragging the 
>> created tid file into a central index file. As it is now, the user must 
>> also create an index-source field manually to each created tid file, then 
>> insert manually the URL or filepath into the index-source field.
>>
>
> Good suggestion! I will try to implement and push updates and discuss 
> these then
>
> --Mohammad
>  
>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:43:40 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>  Sure, I will come back to this and finalize it! Hopefully by tomorrow!
>>>  I will take your comments here!
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:07:03 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford 
>>> wrote:

 At the very least, the indexes created by the 'make index' button 
 should have an 'index-source' field, to save that manual step, even if the 
 build-and-export is not able to grab the actual file location or URL of 
 the 
 present file and place it in the field. 


 On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:29:36 AM UTC-6, David Gifford 
 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>  I am working on dynamic tables in Shiraz plugin and hopefully will 
>> finish soon!
>>
> After that I come back to searchwikis.
>>
>
> So did you finish the dynamic tables? Have you come back to this?  
>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 7:42:05 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> This thread has grown quiet, but it feels like there are a few items 
>>> pending, so I am going to dump here, for whomever might be interested:
>>>
>>> 1) http://kookma.searchwikis.tiddlyspot.com/, the real solution is 
>>> the "Solution ii". But it says "[in progress]". What is in progress or 
>>> left 
>>> to be done from your perspective, Mohammad?
>>>
>>
>> The index file needs some more fields. The search tools needs some 
>> polishing like open all results from one wiki in the same tab (or at 
>> least 
>> this can be configurable)
>> Examples and documentation are also left for last step 
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> 2) I am going to re-mention my idea of using the SiteTitle of the 
>>> files searched as an alias so that the search results will not be long 
>>> ugly 
>>> filepaths. If Mohammad doesn't like that idea, maybe someone could at 
>>> least 
>>> show me how I could do it for my copy.
>>>
>>> I really think this is an exciting possibility for me. Not only 
>>> could I use it to search my own notes, I could also put one up online, 
>>> I 
>>> think, for my site users to search my multiple online wikis.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[Mohammad]

David!

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:29:14 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Two comments:
>
> 1. Today is my birthday, so hearing you will work on it is a great 
> birthday present! Thanks!
>

*Happy your birthday!!*
Live many years with full health and happiness!
 

>
> 2. It would be great if for each file the user could have a system tiddler 
> like $:/searchwiki/filepath where to insert the URL or filepath. Then have 
> have build-and-export 'Make index' button grab that filepath and insert it 
> into an index-source field. That way the updating process only involves 
> opening the file, clicking Make index > tid file, and dragging the created 
> tid file into a central index file. As it is now, the user must also create 
> an index-source field manually to each created tid file, then insert 
> manually the URL or filepath into the index-source field.
>

Good suggestion! I will try to implement and push updates and discuss these 
then

--Mohammad
 

>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:43:40 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>  Sure, I will come back to this and finalize it! Hopefully by tomorrow!
>>  I will take your comments here!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:07:03 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> At the very least, the indexes created by the 'make index' button should 
>>> have an 'index-source' field, to save that manual step, even if the 
>>> build-and-export is not able to grab the actual file location or URL of the 
>>> present file and place it in the field. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:29:36 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:



 On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>  I am working on dynamic tables in Shiraz plugin and hopefully will 
> finish soon!
>
 After that I come back to searchwikis.
>

 So did you finish the dynamic tables? Have you come back to this?  

>
> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 7:42:05 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> This thread has grown quiet, but it feels like there are a few items 
>> pending, so I am going to dump here, for whomever might be interested:
>>
>> 1) http://kookma.searchwikis.tiddlyspot.com/, the real solution is 
>> the "Solution ii". But it says "[in progress]". What is in progress or 
>> left 
>> to be done from your perspective, Mohammad?
>>
>
> The index file needs some more fields. The search tools needs some 
> polishing like open all results from one wiki in the same tab (or at 
> least 
> this can be configurable)
> Examples and documentation are also left for last step 
>  
>
>>
>> 2) I am going to re-mention my idea of using the SiteTitle of the 
>> files searched as an alias so that the search results will not be long 
>> ugly 
>> filepaths. If Mohammad doesn't like that idea, maybe someone could at 
>> least 
>> show me how I could do it for my copy.
>>
>> I really think this is an exciting possibility for me. Not only could 
>> I use it to search my own notes, I could also put one up online, I 
>> think, 
>> for my site users to search my multiple online wikis.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: where are the checkbox images used by the checkbox widget?

[Eric Shulman]

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 9:11:39 AM UTC-8, steve wrote:
>
> I looked in core (specifically in $:/core/images/) for the checkbox images 
> used by the checkbox widget (see below) but could not find an image with 
> checkbox in the title. Where should I be looking for these?
>

The $checkbox widget doesn't use "images" to render the checkboxes.  It 
uses actual  HTML. Thus, the appearance of the 
checkboxes are based on your specific browser and platform.

-e

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[tw5] Re: Andy Matuschak's new notetaking app

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy

I just caught up with that. Very, very good on touchscreen windows tablet.

Can we replicate that in TW?

Best wishes
TT

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Andy Matuschak is working on a new notetaking application that I'm really 
> enjoying.
>
> And here's what we would call a permaview to a stack of notes:
>
>
> https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes?stackedNotes=Work_with_the_garage_door_up=Peripheral_vision=A_reading_inbox_to_capture_possibly-useful_references=Use_phones_to_collect_and_triage%2C_not_(usually)_to_read=Pocket_memo_pad_to_capture_into_writing_inbox_while_out
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[tw5] where are the checkbox images used by the checkbox widget?

['steve' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi

I looked in core (specifically in $:/core/images/) for the checkbox images 
used by the checkbox widget (see below) but could not find an image with 
checkbox in the title. Where should I be looking for these?


Thanks
Steve W

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[tw5] Re: TEST your tiddlywiki knowledge

[Mohammad]

*More Test*


*11*. Which is correct which is incorrect! (*scope of variable*)
  a)
\define m2()
The value of n in m2 <$text text=<<__n__>> />
\end

\define m1(n)
This is a test of scope of variable.
The value of n in m1: $n$
Call m2: <>
\end


<>

b)
\define m2()
The value of n in m2 <$text text="""$n$""" />
\end

\define m1(n)
This is a test of scope of variable.
The value of n in m1: $n$
Call m2: <>
\end


<>

c)
\define m2()
The value of n in m2 <$text text="""$(n)$""" />
\end

\define m1(n)
This is a test of scope of variable.
The value of n in m1: $n$
Call m2: <>
\end


<>



d)
\define m2(n)
The value of n in m2 <$text text="""$n$""" />
\end

\define m1(n)
This is a test of scope of variable.
The value of n in m1: $n$
Call m2: <>
\end


<>






On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 4:50:45 PM UTC+3:30, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Here you have the next release of The-Book.
>
>
> I have done this little test with the best intention and humor. Use it to 
> check your knowledge about Tiddlywiki.
>
>
> *TEST*
>
> 1. You have a Tiddlywiki to store information about your favorite 
> programming language. It is full of CamelCase words and tiddliwiki converts 
> them to links. This is very annoying, because those links do not exist. 
> What is the easiest way to solve the problem?
> a) You have to begin each CamelCase word with a ~ .
> b) You can use the “\pragma” sentence to deactivate all wikitext 
> format.
> c) You can use the “\pragma except wikilinik” sentence to 
> deactivate the CamelCase detection.
> d) You can use the “\rules excect wikilink” sentence to deactivate 
> the CamelCase detection.
>
>
>
> 2. Your very rich significant other has passed away. You find her(his) 
> testament in a Tiddlywiki file. Unfortunately, her ex-boyfriend(his 
> ex-girlfriend) has hidden all controls and buttons to manage the wiki, so 
> you can't read it. What can you do?
> a) There is no problem. You can use the DragAndDrop mechanism to 
> import all tiddlers to other file.
> b) You can't read the testament. You have lost the heritage.
> c) You have to hire a group of hackers to analyze the html file.
> d) You must call Jeremy. Only he has the resources to recover the 
> information.
>
>
>
> 3. You are using Tiddlywiki in a html file opened with Firefox without 
> complements or other applications loaded. You have spent two hours adding 
> information to your tiddlywiki. Tired, you close the browser without 
> reading a message that appeared on the screen. The next time you open your 
> tiddliwiki file it is empty. What can you do?
> a) There is no problem. You can use the DragAndDrop mechanism to 
> import all tiddlers to other file.
> b) You have lost all the information.
> c) You have to hire a group of hackers to analyze the html file.
> d) You must call Jeremy. Only he has the resources to recover the 
> information.
>
>
>
> 4. You need a list of all your tags (sorted alphabetically) followed by 
> the number of tiddlers tagged with it. Write a macro.
>
>
>
> 5. You have a todo tiddlywiki. You have many people, tiddlers tagged with 
> “person” whose title is his name. And you have the tasks, tiddlers tagged 
> with “task”. Each time you assign a task to a person you tag the task with 
> the name of the person. How do you find all tasks not assigned to anyone?
>
>
> 
> 6. You have a macro to show the title and content of a tiddler in a 
> little square: 
> \define content(tidd:"")
> 
> 
> <$link to=<>>
> <>
> 
> 
> 
> <$transclude tiddler=<> mode="block"/>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
> but it does not produce any output. What happens?
> a) You have to add the default value for the tidd attribute.
> b) You have to use $tidd$ as a placeholder for your attribute.
> c) You have to use <<__tidd__>> as a placeholder for your 
> attribute.
> d) There is no “block” mode for transclusions.
>
>
>
> 7. You manage your business with some tiddlywikis. One of them is to 
> control staff. You add all people tagged with his position in the company. 
> For all the managers you want to show in its tiddlers the staff that 
> depends on him, the resources assigned to it and some more fields, in 
> addition to the information of its tiddler. What is the best?
> a) Write the macro “manager” and add <> to each manager 
> at the end of the tiddler content
> b) Use a Conditional View Template for the “manager” tag with the 
> information you need to include.
> c) Use the css { display:none; } for all tiddlers not tagged whit 
> the “manager” tag.
> d) You have to write all this information manually.
>
>
>
> 8. You want to add an icon in few tiddlers. You want the icon to appears 
> next to the title. What's the easy?
> a) Use a Conditional View Template and add the icon in this 
> template.
> b) This is a feature already incorporated in tw. Add the icon you 
> want in 

[tw5] Re: TEST your tiddlywiki knowledge

[Mohammad]

Hi Luis,
 Many thanks for all your efforts.

I learn from these tests!

Thank you and hopefully people respond to it and you receive feedback on 
The Book!


A minor comment: It is good to post the change log on recent release!
I also working on the second part of making plugin and hopefully send it to 
you today or tommorrow!

--Mohammad

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 4:50:45 PM UTC+3:30, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Here you have the next release of The-Book.
>
>
> I have done this little test with the best intention and humor. Use it to 
> check your knowledge about Tiddlywiki.
>
>
> *TEST*
>
> 1. You have a Tiddlywiki to store information about your favorite 
> programming language. It is full of CamelCase words and tiddliwiki converts 
> them to links. This is very annoying, because those links do not exist. 
> What is the easiest way to solve the problem?
> a) You have to begin each CamelCase word with a ~ .
> b) You can use the “\pragma” sentence to deactivate all wikitext 
> format.
> c) You can use the “\pragma except wikilinik” sentence to 
> deactivate the CamelCase detection.
> d) You can use the “\rules excect wikilink” sentence to deactivate 
> the CamelCase detection.
>
>
>
> 2. Your very rich significant other has passed away. You find her(his) 
> testament in a Tiddlywiki file. Unfortunately, her ex-boyfriend(his 
> ex-girlfriend) has hidden all controls and buttons to manage the wiki, so 
> you can't read it. What can you do?
> a) There is no problem. You can use the DragAndDrop mechanism to 
> import all tiddlers to other file.
> b) You can't read the testament. You have lost the heritage.
> c) You have to hire a group of hackers to analyze the html file.
> d) You must call Jeremy. Only he has the resources to recover the 
> information.
>
>
>
> 3. You are using Tiddlywiki in a html file opened with Firefox without 
> complements or other applications loaded. You have spent two hours adding 
> information to your tiddlywiki. Tired, you close the browser without 
> reading a message that appeared on the screen. The next time you open your 
> tiddliwiki file it is empty. What can you do?
> a) There is no problem. You can use the DragAndDrop mechanism to 
> import all tiddlers to other file.
> b) You have lost all the information.
> c) You have to hire a group of hackers to analyze the html file.
> d) You must call Jeremy. Only he has the resources to recover the 
> information.
>
>
>
> 4. You need a list of all your tags (sorted alphabetically) followed by 
> the number of tiddlers tagged with it. Write a macro.
>
>
>
> 5. You have a todo tiddlywiki. You have many people, tiddlers tagged with 
> “person” whose title is his name. And you have the tasks, tiddlers tagged 
> with “task”. Each time you assign a task to a person you tag the task with 
> the name of the person. How do you find all tasks not assigned to anyone?
>
>
> 
> 6. You have a macro to show the title and content of a tiddler in a 
> little square: 
> \define content(tidd:"")
> 
> 
> <$link to=<>>
> <>
> 
> 
> 
> <$transclude tiddler=<> mode="block"/>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
> but it does not produce any output. What happens?
> a) You have to add the default value for the tidd attribute.
> b) You have to use $tidd$ as a placeholder for your attribute.
> c) You have to use <<__tidd__>> as a placeholder for your 
> attribute.
> d) There is no “block” mode for transclusions.
>
>
>
> 7. You manage your business with some tiddlywikis. One of them is to 
> control staff. You add all people tagged with his position in the company. 
> For all the managers you want to show in its tiddlers the staff that 
> depends on him, the resources assigned to it and some more fields, in 
> addition to the information of its tiddler. What is the best?
> a) Write the macro “manager” and add <> to each manager 
> at the end of the tiddler content
> b) Use a Conditional View Template for the “manager” tag with the 
> information you need to include.
> c) Use the css { display:none; } for all tiddlers not tagged whit 
> the “manager” tag.
> d) You have to write all this information manually.
>
>
>
> 8. You want to add an icon in few tiddlers. You want the icon to appears 
> next to the title. What's the easy?
> a) Use a Conditional View Template and add the icon in this 
> template.
> b) This is a feature already incorporated in tw. Add the icon you 
> want in the icon field of the tiddler.
> c) Modify the View Template to show the icon.
> d) Write a macro with the icon tiddler as a parameter and add this 
> macro to the tiddler.
>
>
>
> 9. Before saving, you deleted the tiddler “$:/core/modules/startup.js” of 
> a tiddlywiki file.
> a) ¡No problem!. It is a shadow tiddler and Tiddlywiki will 
> restore it again.
> b) You have crashed 

[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[David Gifford]

Hi Mohammad,

Two comments:

1. Today is my birthday, so hearing you will work on it is a great birthday 
present! Thanks!

2. It would be great if for each file the user could have a system tiddler 
like $:/searchwiki/filepath where to insert the URL or filepath. Then have 
have build-and-export 'Make index' button grab that filepath and insert it 
into an index-source button. That way the updating process only involves 
opening the file, clicking Make index > tid file, and dragging the created 
tid file into a central index file. As it is now, the user must also create 
an index-source field manually to each created file, then insert manually 
the URL or filepath into the index-source field.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:43:40 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>  Sure, I will come back to this and finalize it! Hopefully by tomorrow!
>  I will take your comments here!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:07:03 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> At the very least, the indexes created by the 'make index' button should 
>> have an 'index-source' field, to save that manual step, even if the 
>> build-and-export is not able to grab the actual file location or URL of the 
>> present file and place it in the field. 
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:29:36 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi David,
  I am working on dynamic tables in Shiraz plugin and hopefully will 
 finish soon!

>>> After that I come back to searchwikis.

>>>
>>> So did you finish the dynamic tables? Have you come back to this?  
>>>

 On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 7:42:05 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> This thread has grown quiet, but it feels like there are a few items 
> pending, so I am going to dump here, for whomever might be interested:
>
> 1) http://kookma.searchwikis.tiddlyspot.com/, the real solution is 
> the "Solution ii". But it says "[in progress]". What is in progress or 
> left 
> to be done from your perspective, Mohammad?
>

 The index file needs some more fields. The search tools needs some 
 polishing like open all results from one wiki in the same tab (or at least 
 this can be configurable)
 Examples and documentation are also left for last step 
  

>
> 2) I am going to re-mention my idea of using the SiteTitle of the 
> files searched as an alias so that the search results will not be long 
> ugly 
> filepaths. If Mohammad doesn't like that idea, maybe someone could at 
> least 
> show me how I could do it for my copy.
>
> I really think this is an exciting possibility for me. Not only could 
> I use it to search my own notes, I could also put one up online, I think, 
> for my site users to search my multiple online wikis.
>


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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[Mohammad]

Hi David,
 Sure, I will come back to this and finalize it! Hopefully by tomorrow!
 I will take your comments here!

--Mohammad

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:07:03 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> At the very least, the indexes created by the 'make index' button should 
> have an 'index-source' field, to save that manual step, even if the 
> build-and-export is not able to grab the actual file location or URL of the 
> present file and place it in the field. 
>
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:29:36 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>  I am working on dynamic tables in Shiraz plugin and hopefully will 
>>> finish soon!
>>>
>> After that I come back to searchwikis.
>>>
>>
>> So did you finish the dynamic tables? Have you come back to this?  
>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 7:42:05 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi all

 This thread has grown quiet, but it feels like there are a few items 
 pending, so I am going to dump here, for whomever might be interested:

 1) http://kookma.searchwikis.tiddlyspot.com/, the real solution is the 
 "Solution ii". But it says "[in progress]". What is in progress or left to 
 be done from your perspective, Mohammad?

>>>
>>> The index file needs some more fields. The search tools needs some 
>>> polishing like open all results from one wiki in the same tab (or at least 
>>> this can be configurable)
>>> Examples and documentation are also left for last step 
>>>  
>>>

 2) I am going to re-mention my idea of using the SiteTitle of the files 
 searched as an alias so that the search results will not be long ugly 
 filepaths. If Mohammad doesn't like that idea, maybe someone could at 
 least 
 show me how I could do it for my copy.

 I really think this is an exciting possibility for me. Not only could I 
 use it to search my own notes, I could also put one up online, I think, 
 for 
 my site users to search my multiple online wikis.

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[David Gifford]

At the very least, the indexes created by the 'make index' button should 
have an 'index-source' field, to save that manual step, even if the 
build-and-export is not able to grab the actual file location or URL of the 
present file and place it in the field. 


On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:29:36 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>  I am working on dynamic tables in Shiraz plugin and hopefully will 
>> finish soon!
>>
> After that I come back to searchwikis.
>>
>
> So did you finish the dynamic tables? Have you come back to this?  
>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 7:42:05 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> This thread has grown quiet, but it feels like there are a few items 
>>> pending, so I am going to dump here, for whomever might be interested:
>>>
>>> 1) http://kookma.searchwikis.tiddlyspot.com/, the real solution is the 
>>> "Solution ii". But it says "[in progress]". What is in progress or left to 
>>> be done from your perspective, Mohammad?
>>>
>>
>> The index file needs some more fields. The search tools needs some 
>> polishing like open all results from one wiki in the same tab (or at least 
>> this can be configurable)
>> Examples and documentation are also left for last step 
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> 2) I am going to re-mention my idea of using the SiteTitle of the files 
>>> searched as an alias so that the search results will not be long ugly 
>>> filepaths. If Mohammad doesn't like that idea, maybe someone could at least 
>>> show me how I could do it for my copy.
>>>
>>> I really think this is an exciting possibility for me. Not only could I 
>>> use it to search my own notes, I could also put one up online, I think, for 
>>> my site users to search my multiple online wikis.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

[David Gifford]

On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>  I am working on dynamic tables in Shiraz plugin and hopefully will finish 
> soon!
>
After that I come back to searchwikis.
>

So did you finish the dynamic tables? Have you come back to this?  

>
> On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 7:42:05 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> This thread has grown quiet, but it feels like there are a few items 
>> pending, so I am going to dump here, for whomever might be interested:
>>
>> 1) http://kookma.searchwikis.tiddlyspot.com/, the real solution is the 
>> "Solution ii". But it says "[in progress]". What is in progress or left to 
>> be done from your perspective, Mohammad?
>>
>
> The index file needs some more fields. The search tools needs some 
> polishing like open all results from one wiki in the same tab (or at least 
> this can be configurable)
> Examples and documentation are also left for last step 
>  
>
>>
>> 2) I am going to re-mention my idea of using the SiteTitle of the files 
>> searched as an alias so that the search results will not be long ugly 
>> filepaths. If Mohammad doesn't like that idea, maybe someone could at least 
>> show me how I could do it for my copy.
>>
>> I really think this is an exciting possibility for me. Not only could I 
>> use it to search my own notes, I could also put one up online, I think, for 
>> my site users to search my multiple online wikis.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

You could use Morgaine's table as a template. Templates are very important 
in TW.

This is a simplified example, because I don't understand auto insurance 
etc. that well.

Let's say you had a template tiddler like this:

And a Auto tiddler like this:


Notice how the fields of the tiddlers contain the important information 
about the car. If youre TW is not using fields, you will
have to change each tiddler for each car every time there is a new car. 
That is a lot of work!

Notice also the template invocation {{||VersicherungTemplate}} .

When closed, this appears as this:

This, of course, is only the start. You would want to move all data about 
the auto, including the name and ID,
smogging, inspections, etc. to a tiddler about the car, or perhaps to a 
car/year (I am not sure which you are
tracking).

Your TW seems to have only two cars (Toyota Hybrid, Toyota Yaris). If that 
is all you need, then it doesn't matter. 
But if you want to add many cars, then you will want to use templates.

Good luck!

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:41:43 AM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:
>
> Hello Morgaine O'Herne 
>
> this is functional but its dosn't work if you use a template-tiddler
> The fields of the template wil not be createt in the target tiddler.
> for this to use i must know how i can make the Fields in the target 
> tiddler.
> then i can do.
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 07:21:09 UTC+1 schrieb Morgaine O'Herne:
>>
>> I did it like this:  All of the data in the columns is in the Fields.  
>>  You can see this at http://morgensharn.tiddlyspot.com. The tiddler is 
>> "Eriel - Armor Weight."
>>
>> @@.table
>> |ITEM|WEIGHT|
>> |{{!!a1}}|{{!!b1}}|
>> |{{!!a2}}|{{!!b2}}|
>> |{{!!a3}}|{{!!b3}}|
>> |{{!!a4}}|{{!!b4}}|
>> |{{!!a5}}|{{!!b5}}|
>> |{{!!a6}}|{{!!b6}}|
>> |{{!!a7}}|{{!!b7}}|
>> |{{!!a8}}|{{!!b8}}|
>> |{{!!a9}}|{{!!b9}}|
>> |{{!!a10}}|{{!!b10}}|
>> |TOTAL|<$macrocall $name="eval"  
>> cell="(=!!b1+!!b2+!!b3+!!b4+!!b5+!!b6+!!b7+!!b8+!!b9+!!b10)" format="2" 
>> target="armor">|
>> @@
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 12:49:12 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks
>>>
>>> i have a table with 2 columns of numbers.
>>> now i want to have the sum from every columns.
>>>
>>> the Position of the sum shoud be above or below the columns.
>>>
>>> I have no solution found for this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any Ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks for all
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Newbie can't call javascript macros

[David]

Thanks for putting together this simple script.  However, it did n't work 
for me.  I also get a blank tiddler.  

I have tried the refresh button as well as saving and reloading the whole 
page.

I created a new Tiddler called "JsTiddler" and put your content in it, and 
set the "Type" field to "application/javascript".  In the current version 
of TW, I do not see a field for "module".

Then i created a new tiddler like you did to test it.  I kept the type as 
the default (text/vnd.tiddlywiki) and pasted in your code.

I reloaded the tw and my test tiddler is still blank.

I'm not new to JavaScript, but have an intermediate knowledge of that.  But 
I'm new to TW, especially macros.


On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 4:04:10 AM UTC-4, Erock wrote:
>
> I have been learning about javascript macros recently and was trying to 
> create a simple one to start with, but I can't seem to get it to work. I've 
> read lots of documentation, forums, etc., but still can't seem to figure 
> out why it won't work. Here is what I've been doing. I set up two tiddlers, 
> JsTiddler and RunTiddler. I added a very simple javascript macro to 
> JsTiddler, and set its type = "application/javascript" and module-type = 
> "macro". Here is the text:
> /*\
> title: JsTiddler
> type: application/javascript
> module-type: macro
> \*/
> (function(){
>
> /*jslint node: true, browser: true */
> /*global $tw: false */
> "use strict";
>
> exports.name = "jstiddler";
>
> exports.params = [];
>
> /*
> Run the macro
> */
> exports.run = function() {
> return "Hello World";
> };
>
> })();
>
> I then created a second tiddler to import and display the macro called 
> RunTiddler. This is its text:
> <$importvariables filter="[[JsTiddler]]">
> <$macrocall $name="jstiddler" />
> 
>
> However, when I run this, all I get is a blank tiddler.  I have tried 
> filtering in different ways (such as using tags), but that didn't help 
> either. I have also been able to use <> and <> in both <<>> 
> and <$macrocall> syntax, so I know that my wiki can use js tiddlers. Can 
> anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
>
>

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[tw5] Does ActionListopsWidget not support the $timestamp attribute?

[Hubert]

Hi All,

The documentation  does not 
explicitly state that setting the timestamp attribute with $action-listops is 
supported, so I'm assuming it's not.

Would it then be possible to extend the *ActionListopsWidget *to also take 
the timestamp attribute, in a similar fashion as it's possible in the 
ActionSetFieldWidget and ActionCreateTiddlerWidget?

Thank you,
Hubert

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[tw5] Re: Off-kilter: Sequence buttons

[TiddlyTweeter]

Tx for reminder. I'm behind. Will catch up.

Best, TT

On Thursday, 27 February 2020 14:04:40 UTC+1, A Gloom wrote:
>
> @@TT
>
> the .tid with working examples ending with "1" was attached to last post 
> (the one where I asked demo of which)
>
> Bi-directional button I ended up going with buttons side by side (the far 
> right round button with left & right arrows)-- two buttons inside a round 
> div that makes it look like one control.
>
> Got the dial to move with the tuning buttons and close enough to the 
> channels increments as css allows...
> got the dial glow to turn on with the on button, the numbers are white, 
> dial red when radion is off-  got to get the dial dull red again-- I'm 
> working with a theme that doesn't allow normal css/html colors so I have to 
> use a concoction of css filters to achieve colors
> got static when turned on till a station is selected..
> just having to figure things out -- the else operator wasn't my solution 
> for when I hit the ends of bands and the filter the tuning button operates 
> returns an empty value and disables the button function
> there's much more (the interesting combination of widgets & filters) than 
> time permits atm
>
> [image: radiosb.jpg]
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to hide tags

[Sylvain Naudin]

Hi,

I'm interested if someone know to hide *only one specific* tag, a normal 
tag, or a systeme tag like $:/mytag and display others tags.

I've search groups but don't find the right tips. I hope it's possible..

Thanks !
Sylvain



Le lundi 14 octobre 2019 06:39:19 UTC+2, TonyM a écrit :
>
> Steve,
>
> The Non CSS way.
>
> Do you want to hide the tags on all tiddlers always or some tiddlers some 
> times? Are you happy to leave them visible in edit mode so at least while 
> editing they are there, or would you like to hide some tags only?
>
> To get you rolling see the $:/tags/ViewTemplate tags
> You can create a Tag pill with 
> <>
>
> If you click on this you can see $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags
>
> If you click on this you can open it. If you remove the 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate tag you will not longer see them in the view template.
>
> Or you could edit $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags and wrap it in a 
> conditional display
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]is[system]]" variable=nul>
> <$reveal type="nomatch" stateTitle=<> text="hide" tag="div" 
> retain="yes" animate="yes">
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]]" template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" 
> storyview="pop"/>
> 
> 
>
> Like my list widget above which only displays tags on system tiddlers, but 
> you could refine this to a filter like
> [all[current]!hide-tags[yes]] and it will only display if the current 
> tiddler does not have a field hide-tags = yes
>
> This is editing a shadow tiddler so check for changes after an upgrade of 
> tiddly wiki
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, 14 October 2019 14:46:04 UTC+11, Steve S wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like a simple clean list of my tiddlers. I have managed to remove 
>> the author and heading and subtitle fields according to this tiddler: "How 
>> to hide the author's and other fields with CSS" but this doesn’t say how to 
>> remove the tags. I know its possible because I saw it here 
>> http://t5a.tiddlyspot.com/ but I haven't managed to work out how he did 
>> it. 
>>
>> I will email the author of that page and put my findings here if I find 
>> it. This is a learning process for me and also perhaps others have the same 
>> question so I thought it worth putting the question here also. 
>>
>> I don't really understand what CSS is so I need fairly simple 
>> instructions. 
>>
>> Because it is sometimes good to see the titles and tags it would be nice 
>> to have a button to turn them on and off easily, but I guess that calls for 
>> another topic?
>>
>> Thanks for any help. I did have a search but didn't find anything that 
>> seemed to do this.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Off-kilter: Sequence buttons

[A Gloom]

@@TT

the .tid with working examples ending with "1" was attached to last post 
(the one where I asked demo of which)

Bi-directional button I ended up going with buttons side by side (the far 
right round button with left & right arrows)-- two buttons inside a round 
div that makes it look like one control.

Got the dial to move with the tuning buttons and close enough to the 
channels increments as css allows...
got the dial glow to turn on with the on button, the numbers are white, 
dial red when radion is off-  got to get the dial dull red again-- I'm 
working with a theme that doesn't allow normal css/html colors so I have to 
use a concoction of css filters to achieve colors
got static when turned on till a station is selected..
just having to figure things out -- the else operator wasn't my solution 
for when I hit the ends of bands and the filter the tuning button operates 
returns an empty value and disables the button function
there's much more (the interesting combination of widgets & filters) than 
time permits atm

[image: radiosb.jpg]

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[tw5] Re: new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph

[PMario]

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:16:08 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:

Codemirror allows indents/with tabs, but the render does not honor them, 
> but here I want no indent, just a paragraph.
>

I know. ... but I do want a generic solution, that may fit more usecases.  

We could create some (2) buttons that can create tabs without codemirror, 
just for indenting paragraphs.

In my case I already use ":" to indent and make an effective paragraph,
>

No you create a Description Details element 
 ... that's a 
different thing. ... You are basically "misusing" it, because there is no 
visual difference. 

But there is a semantic difference. eg: If you copy paste the html code 
into a different app, that tries to make sense out of the html structure, 
it will be confused. 
   

> multiple indents as well, as you know ";" is bolded but is does what I 
> want otherwise, but since I we are dealing with paragraphs it seems best to 
> use the html P tag. At one point I removed the bold with ;.p where p was a 
> class name that unbolded it. But ;.p is surprisingly distracting. 
>

Yea distraction was the main point why I didn't like the . dot at the start 
of the line. ... But you are right. If there are more elements like ;.p it 
is even worse. ... 

;.p looks like an emoji  ;p

I was thinking about the ´ tick, because it's also a small character. ... I 
don't know, what's better.
 

> I notice that using period as the second character to ;.classname and 
> :.classname works, so theoretically ..classname could also work while 
> rendering the text in an un-indented paragraph.
>

You are right it should work for un-indented paragraphs. If ... means 
paragraph level 3, it won't work for ...test  paragraph level 2, since the 
parser can't recognize the difference between level 2-with-class and level 3
 

> But I am not wedded to period, however it is nicely easy to access on the 
> keyboard (no shift) and it is often so unassuming if it was at the 
> beginning of a paragraph (not wikifield) it is almost unnoticeable.
>

... keyborad layout and character access is a thing. ... that's right. 
 

> One idea is what if we used an invisible character? eg; non breaking 
> space, one that is otherwise ignored?, the only question is how do we get a 
> single key entry, and ideally display while editing raw text.
>

I'm not a big fan of invisible "formatting", but for some things, we don't 
have a choice. ... The [tab] at the beginning of a line will be visible in 
edit mode. ... but it would look the same as if you did 8 spaces. ... But 
nobody makes 8 spaces at the start of a line. right ;)
 
I did also experiment with a new hard-linebreak inline-parsing-rule. using 
 ... that will be translated to 

It works nicely, but has very high potential for misuse, which will cause a 
lot of maintenance cost (for the users) in the long run. 

I also created .q and .a classes to highlight Questions and their Dnswers 
> differently and this also allowed the Questions and answers in a long text 
> to be listed in a footer. 
>

ok
 

> With matching I listed unanswered Questions. You can see here, this 
> provides an ad hoc way for an author to add annotations,
>

There is an html element for annotations. : The Aside element 
 ,where 
the default ARIA role is complementary. 

classification and formatting details to their content as they write, a bit 
> like a home grown shorthand, which is what markup is all about. 
>

I'm not sure what you mean with classification. ... but it could be : 
The Description Term element 

 

> I may also add when trying to take notes in a class or watching a video 
> the more easy tricks the better.
>

That's right. .. But it would be nice, if the easy tricks also create valid 
html output. 

 

> Regardless if such "customisations" were hackable more can be done. 
> Inventions we can't imagine.
>
>- One I can imagine - an indicator to later excise, and transclude or 
>Link to that transclusion (needs beginning and end, or default to end of 
>line/paragraph)
>
> That's right, but if it is hackable it may cause a lot of incompatibility 
between wikitext of user A and user B. I think, the wikitext markup should 
be globally interchangeable. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Remove Tag Icon

[TonyM]

Eric,

Good advice. Perhaps in a local tiddler text field the use of 

[tw5] Re: new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph

[TonyM]

Mario,

Some progress here, thanks.

Codemirror allows indents/with tabs, but the render does not honor them, 
but here I want no indent, just a paragraph.

In my case I already use ":" to indent and make an effective paragraph, 
multiple indents as well, as you know ";" is bolded but is does what I want 
otherwise, but since I we are dealing with paragraphs it seems best to use 
the html P tag. At one point I removed the bold with ;.p where p was a 
class name that unbolded it. But ;.p is surprisingly distracting. 

I notice that using period as the second character to ;.classname and 
:.classname works, so theoretically ..classname could also work while 
rendering the text in an un-indented paragraph. But I am not wedded to 
period, however it is nicely easy to access on the keyboard (no shift) and 
it is often so unassuming if it was at the beginning of a paragraph (not 
wikifield) it is almost unnoticeable.

One idea is what if we used an invisible character? eg; non breaking space, 
one that is otherwise ignored?, the only question is how do we get a single 
key entry, and ideally display while editing raw text.

I also created .q and .a classes to highlight Questions and their Dnswers 
differently and this also allowed the Questions and answers in a long text 
to be listed in a footer. With matching I listed unanswered Questions. You 
can see here, this provides an ad hoc way for an author to add annotations, 
classification and formatting details to their content as they write, a bit 
like a home grown shorthand, which is what markup is all about. I may also 
add when trying to take notes in a class or watching a video the more easy 
tricks the better.

Regardless if such "customisations" were hackable more can be done. 
Inventions we can't imagine.

   - One I can imagine - an indicator to later excise, and transclude or 
   Link to that transclusion (needs beginning and end, or default to end of 
   line/paragraph)


Regards
Tony



On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:52:17 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> Did some more experiments and found out, the "dot" as an indicator is 
> problematic. 
>
> eg: I want to be able to create indented paragraphs, which is only 
> possible at the moment with lists and special CSS
>
> So, I used the tick ´ as an indicator:
>
> ´.test some text ... will create 
>
> some text
>
> ´´ some more text ... will create
>
> some more text
>
> Which should allow us to create text like this: 
>
> some text
>
> some more text
>
> The line spacing can be done with CSS using .tc-p1, .tc-p2 or tc-p3 ... 
> Maximum 3 levels should be possible. 
>
> If we use a dot, we loose the "user defined class" see ´.test at the very 
> first example.
>
> I'm not so happy with the ´ tick or the dot. ... What if we could use tabs 
> for indentation?
>
> What do you think?
>
> -mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Improving HTA on Windows

[TonyM]

All,

I do use TiddlyDesktop in preference to hta's, for desktop interaction, 
however I want an easy instruction setup for users.

The node versions, and twexe open the server in a Window and the wiki in a 
browser. This is unkind and confusing to end users, why do they need two 
windows? That is the beauty of the HTA format. I may add, for simple 
notepad features hta is more than adequate. 

I would prefer to associate .tw files with NW

The fact is I do care, It would be nice for user to not have to care 
however. If we made our own exe installable equivalent of the mshtml helper 
that used chromium (?) and made .tw files behave like hta files on every 
platform would we have nervana?

If tiddlywiki could be treated like a word document download and double 
click but they open in their own window and save (not in a browser, shared 
app or with a server running) they will be more intuitive to use.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 6:58:21 PM UTC+11, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> bimlas
>
> We could associate the HTA files with NW.js, so this could be a 
>> cross-platform solution.
>>
>
> Useful comment!
>
> nw --url="file:///absolute/path/of/tiddlywiki.html"
>>
>
> Right. TiddlyDesktop doesn't support yet, as far as I can see, relative 
> addressing. Which makes "wrapped install" of TD with wiki not possible at 
> the moment.
> TD is particularly good for its MENU environment, ideal for *sets* of 
> wikis. Even more than the .hta approach it looks like an app and can be 
> treated as one.
>
> Thoughts
> TT
>
> On Thursday, 27 February 2020 08:26:23 UTC+1, bimlas wrote:
>>
>> TonyM,
>>
>> It is only partially related to the topic: HTA hack only works on Windows 
>> and is not recommended to use (legacy). TiddlyDesktop uses NW.js (
>> https://nwjs.io/), which can be used as a minimal browser. Although I 
>> haven't been able to configure it to let the wiki save the changes 
>> automatically (overwrite the HTML by self), but I can open the files with 
>> it. The command is:
>>
>> nw --url="file:///absolute/path/of/tiddlywiki.html"
>>
>> We could associate the HTA files with NW.js, so this could be a 
>> cross-platform solution.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Remove Tag Icon

[Eric Shulman]

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:25:17 AM UTC-8, Mat wrote:
>
> Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> [...] hide tags in view mode when not editing a tiddler?
>>>
>>  
>
> .tc-tags-wrapper { display:none; }
>>
>
> Interestingly, that sounds like a suggestion I would make BUT the 
> following sounds more like a suggestion that Eric would typically make:
>
> Go to $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags and remove tag $:/tags/ViewTemplate 
> from it.
>

Whenever possible, I try to avoid making changes to shadows.  For something 
simple like removing a TWCore standard display element that has a specific 
CSS classname, using a stylesheet is *much* preferred.

I only suggest changing shadow tiddlers when there is no other way to 
achieve the desired result.

-e

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

[Gerald Weis]

Hello Morgaine O'Herne 

this is functional but its dosn't work if you use a template-tiddler
The fields of the template wil not be createt in the target tiddler.
for this to use i must know how i can make the Fields in the target tiddler.
then i can do.


Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 07:21:09 UTC+1 schrieb Morgaine O'Herne:
>
> I did it like this:  All of the data in the columns is in the Fields.  
>  You can see this at http://morgensharn.tiddlyspot.com. The tiddler is 
> "Eriel - Armor Weight."
>
> @@.table
> |ITEM|WEIGHT|
> |{{!!a1}}|{{!!b1}}|
> |{{!!a2}}|{{!!b2}}|
> |{{!!a3}}|{{!!b3}}|
> |{{!!a4}}|{{!!b4}}|
> |{{!!a5}}|{{!!b5}}|
> |{{!!a6}}|{{!!b6}}|
> |{{!!a7}}|{{!!b7}}|
> |{{!!a8}}|{{!!b8}}|
> |{{!!a9}}|{{!!b9}}|
> |{{!!a10}}|{{!!b10}}|
> |TOTAL|<$macrocall $name="eval"  
> cell="(=!!b1+!!b2+!!b3+!!b4+!!b5+!!b6+!!b7+!!b8+!!b9+!!b10)" format="2" 
> target="armor">|
> @@
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 12:49:12 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> i have a table with 2 columns of numbers.
>> now i want to have the sum from every columns.
>>
>> the Position of the sum shoud be above or below the columns.
>>
>> I have no solution found for this.
>>
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> thanks for all
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Remove Tag Icon

[Mat]

Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> [...] hide tags in view mode when not editing a tiddler?
>>
>  

.tc-tags-wrapper { display:none; }
>

Interestingly, that sounds like a suggestion I would make BUT the following 
sounds more like a suggestion that Eric would typically make:

Go to $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags and remove tag $:/tags/ViewTemplate from 
it.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph

[PMario]

Did some more experiments and found out, the "dot" as an indicator is 
problematic. 

eg: I want to be able to create indented paragraphs, which is only possible 
at the moment with lists and special CSS

So, I used the tick ´ as an indicator:

´.test some text ... will create 

some text

´´ some more text ... till create

some more text

Which should allow us to create text like this: 

some text

some more text

The line spacing can be done with CSS using .tc-p1, .tc-p2 or tc-p3 ... 
Maximal 3 levels should be possible. 

If we use a dot, we loose the "user defined class" see ´.test at the very 
first example.

I'm not so happy with the ´ tick or the dot. ... What if we could use tabs 
for indentation?

What do you think?

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Query: Legal TiddlyWiki Dates?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Tony, tx. Good to have a challenge!

It got clear its pragmatically an issue for dates prior to 1899. So I will 
have to add a field for older works.

I'm still not bothered for anything after that on creation date. I don't 
see the problem. 

Probably my laziness to never do anything a different way IF you can do it 
with existing tools.

Best wishes
TT

On Monday, 24 February 2020 23:20:08 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> TT,
>
> I do which to express a different view point in the sprite of 
> collaborative diversity.
>
> Thanks for your concern. But I don't think it is an issue in the 
>> particular use case. E.g. excerpts of scripts written in 1957. Works fine. 
>> That dating identifies them well without need of an additional field.
>>
>  
> See my most recent post why I think it is a problem 
> I am happy to help with you making use of an additional field.
>
>
>> User created Tiddler dating would work as normal. I can't see a problem?
>>
>  
> Perhaps you could not see the problem, thus I respectfully suggest their 
> is. 
>
>>
>> In any case, I intended the OP to be about better understanding the 
>> limits on dates in TW. I'm interested in that.
>>
>>>

> This is precisely what I am suggesting , the limits, and the limits or a 
> de facto standard should in my view not use the system date/and time for 
> something they are not.
>
> Lets import some great date handling libraries and make it easy to develop 
> and use such dates. For example the mear existence of a "historical" date 
> in a tiddler already provides information that is for historical 
> information which enriches the solution rather than degrade the solution.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph

[PMario]

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:55:43 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:

> Mario
>
> Thanks. That explains a lot more. Would it be ok to nest it in a div, 
> perhaps the div could have a class so styles could be applied e.g. the 
> paragraph style, thus the transition to multiple paragraphs could be 
> changed e.g. 1.5 line space between paragraphs.
>

I did an other test, using the headings-parser as a starting point. The 
code is much much simpler than creating lists. 

And there shouldn't be problems with the spec.

-m





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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Whoops! Sorry.

On Thursday, 27 February 2020 09:39:48 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> @Tony
> @TiddlyTweeter
>
> We hijacked this thread, which shouldn't happen. ... Sorry @ Zhe Lee
>
> I did create a new thread (new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph 
> ) , where 
> we should go on with brainstorming.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Version Controlling the Wiki: Isomorphic Git

[HC Haase]

 Diego Mesa:

>
> and thought it might make a great addition to the wiki! Using git as a 
> version control of the wiki itself! 
>
Jeremy Ruston

> gives us features like revision handling and merging changes from multiple 
> sources.
>
 
This would be really great. Merging and handling of different versions is a 
place where TW is lacking. I often have the fear that my wiki is out of 
sync with the mobile version and I will override something. 

It would also make it a lot simpler to manage separate wikis that share 
content.

projects that spring to my mind, where this could have a impact:

twideraton and the recent search indexes to other wikis 

 
projects

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[PMario]

@Zhe Lee

Are you still with us?

-m

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 9:47:03 AM UTC+1, Zhe Lee wrote:
>
> I know that if you type the word "CamelCase" TiddlyWiki will create a link 
> automatically in TiddlyWiki. 
>
> * But I really need "_" in the word. Like when I type in "Camel_Case" link 
> can be auto created, too. Any way to make it?
> * Is there a way to make it work also in Chinese? Since I use Chinese a 
> lot.  
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[PMario]

@Tony
@TiddlyTweeter

We hijacked this thread, which shouldn't happen. ... Sorry @ Zhe Lee

I did create a new thread (new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph 
) , where 
we should go on with brainstorming.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] new parser rule proposed: dot-paragraph

[PMario]

We hijacked an other thread 
, which 
shouldn't happen. So I wanted to start over here:


On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 11:13:54 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mario,
>
> You are a wizard with this kind of thing, I hope you could assist me. I 
> ask now because your above solution is slow close to what I have asked for 
> for some time.
>
>- Is there a possibility you could generalise this so others could 
>modify it to produce their own parser/pragma?
>- If you see in the core where * # ; : are defined it seems to me it 
>should be trivial to add another special character and set html tags but 
> it 
>is not.
>- could you make a standard plugin template we can modify to set the 
>lead character and the html tags to apply?
>- I really want the leading period "." to trigger a html paragraph 
>around multiple sentences until we get to end of line (line break)
>- However I see value if I could build others 
>
> Thanks if this is possible
> Tony
>

 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 6:37:01 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 11:13:54 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
> ..
>
>> You are a wizard with this kind of thing, I hope you could assist me. I 
>> ask now because your above solution is slow close to what I have asked for 
>> for some time.
>>
> ... 
>
>>
>>- I really want the leading period "." to trigger a html paragraph 
>>around multiple sentences until we get to end of line (line break)
>>
>> I have seen this request, but I don't understand it. I think the first 
> time it came up with the "single linebreak" - "hard linebreak" in 
> paragraphs discussion. 
>
> In my thinking having a dot at the start of the wikitext line is annoying. 
> I'd rather go with some spaces, which you can sometimes see. 
>
> Also inserting a dot at the beginning of a line is the same manual work as 
> hitting [Enter] or even 2 times Enter, to create a real wikitext paragraph. 
>
> The second problem I have is, that a "hard paragraph" will create HTML 
> code like this: 
>
> 
> This text is wrapped because there was a "dot" at the beginning of the 
> line
> 
>
> Which is ugly, since TW already suffers from "divitis 
> ". So imo we shouldn't add 
> "paragraphitis" if we can avoid it ;)
>
> Mario
>



On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:27:36 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mario,
>
> I would expect a dot at the beginning to simply do this.
>
> This text is wrapped because there was a "dot" at the beginning of the 
> line
>
> To me this is a very valuable tool for use in my own wikis, not only for 
> massaging imported content but helping me structure notes as I compose 
> them. It would be easy to remove all leading periods if required and if we 
> copy the resultant html for reuse it is good for sharing.
>
> I want a bespoke setting here, not a change to the fundamental markup 
> standards, and if possible offer the option for other bespoke leading 
> charater markup. eg someone may like to indicate sections or chapters 
> etc... with their own markup, basically allowing a markup character to be 
> defined use standard html tags, tags not already catered for in wikitext or 
> widgets.
>
> Perhaps you are not interested but It would help me (and I believe others 
> would like it) a lot. But the question is why is the addition of such 
> bespoke markup not possible?, from what I can see programmatically it 
> should be trivial, perhaps even entries in a data tiddler to define them. 
>
> With an Editor toolbar  button I can turn all lines into paragraphs buy, 
> select all, click, prepending the lines with a period.
>
> One way to test the value is to copy a big block of multi paragraph lorum 
> ipsum then use a editor toolbar item to select all lines and prepend with 
> ";"
>
> Empty `` tags collapse to one blank line between paragraphs and 
> indicating the "pre-wrapped" line starts helps and editor review the 
> layout, especially for content sourced elsewhere. Which often contains 
> multiple blank lines, using this they all collapse to a single blank line 
> when rendered.
>
> In rapid note taking I use ";" and ":" a lot, and this would complement 
> these by providing automatically managed paragraphs. There is no non-bold 
> equivalent to ";". 
>
> If you have another character or markup pattern in mind happy to consider. 
> But I realy, realy, want this, given my personal organiser, my data 
> imports, note taking in courses etc.. Material I add tends to go nowhere 
> but in my own personal wikis.
>
> And yes, for some people this will satisfy there frustration with the line 
> breaks.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>


On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 2:52:36 AM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:27:36 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Perhaps you are not interested but It would help me (and I believe others 
>> would like it) a lot.
>>
>
> I wouldn't 

[tw5] Re: sum of column

[Gerald Weis]

Hello Mark,
it is one car alone.

@MonyM
Kennzeichen is the licence plate of the car.
Unternehmen = insurance company
Versicherung = insurance type
Klasse: Regional(Regionalklasse) = category of region
Klasse: Typ(Typklasse)=category of typ
Beitragsatz % = membership rate per percent
Beitrag Zahle Monate =  month to pay  
Beitrag laut Zahlweise =membership rate for month to pay

Am Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 05:47:57 UTC+1 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> This isn't really a data-driven or a tiddler-driven project. All I did was 
> make a macro to calculate 
> the total yearly amounts, then do the calculation 3 times, each time 
> putting it in a different
> variable. Then, at the bottom, just sum the variables.
>
> This is not the approach you would want if you were tracking dozens or 
> hundreds of cars, but
> if there is only one or two then it might work. That's why I asked about 
> the number of vehicles.
> The highly professional presentation makes me wonder if there is a larger 
> goal in view.
>
> A tiddler-driven approach would require a lot more effort to understand 
> what is being tracked.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Could you please do an English version to help us read it?, if possible. 
>> I am keen to read how you sum a calculated "column".
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 7:15:07 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's what I made for
>>>
>>> Versicherung - 2020
>>>
>>> Enter code here...\define jahrlich(zm,lw) {{{ [[$lw$]multiply[12]divide[
>>> $zm$]fixed[2]] }}}
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <$wikify text=<> name=jahres1> 
>>> <$wikify text=<> name=jahres2> 
>>> <$wikify text=<>  name=jahres3> 
>>> <$vars jahresrate={{{ [][]+[sum[]] }}} 
>>>rate={{{ [[308.22]][[249.65]]+[sum[]] }}}
>>> >
>>> <$macrocall $name=VersZwiSumme Rate=<> Jahresrate=<> 
>>> />
>>>
>>> <>
>>> <$vars jahresrate={{{ [][][]+[sum[]] }}} >
>>> <$macrocall $name=VersGesSumme Jahresrate=<> />
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Do you plan on doing this for just two cars, or many cars?
>>>
>>> This approach will be difficult for many cars.
>>>
>>> For many cars, you will need something like the "dyanmic tables" that 
>>> Mohammad suggests. And you
>>> will need to put your data (rates, monthly payments, etc.) into 
>>> tiddlers. The tables you create with
>>> "dynamic tables" may not be as attractive, but they will be easier to 
>>> maintain.
>>>
>>> Viel Glück!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 1:47:24 AM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:

 Hello Mark

 i can do this.

 that is the wiki with the complete data.
 i hope you have idea or solution for me.

 thanks 
 Gerald

 the complete Wiki is appended

 Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 01:21:08 UTC+1 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> Can you post your tiddlywiki somewhere?
>
> These macros do not show us your calculations, and we do not know the 
> structure of your tiddlers. Even
> in English it would be hard to help without these things.
>
> This macro has at least one error:
> 
>
>> \define Verskauf(Unternehmen Versart Regionalklasse Typklasse 
>> BeitragssatzProzent Zahlmonate LautZahlweise Jahresrate)
>> <$vars Jahr=  {{{ [[$LautZahlweise$]multiply[12]divide[$Zahlmonate$]] 
>> }}}>
>> <$vars Jahr={{{[fixed[2]]}}}>
>> 
>> $Unternehmen$
>> $Versart$
>> $Regionalklasse$
>> $Typklasse$
>> $BeitragssatzProzent$
>> $Zahlmonate$
>> $LautZahlweise$ €
>> <> €
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> The second <$vars> tag must match a second <$/vars> closing tag. All 
>> opening tags must match a closing tag.
>>
> <$vars Jahr=.>
> <$vars Jahr= mehr ...>
>  macro code 
>  FIRST CLOSING TAG
>  SECOND CLOSING TAG
>
> Good luck!
>
>  
>


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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao TonyM

Here is my naive comment. I'm still not fully clear what the outcome you 
looking for is meant to "look like".

But I think CSS might be a workable solution. Either in a div container or 
a CSS rule that detects markup?

Best wishes
TT

On Thursday, 27 February 2020 08:55:43 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mario
>
> Thanks. That explains a lot more. Would it be ok to nest it in a div, 
> perhaps the div could have a class so styles could be applied e.g. the 
> paragraph style, thus the transition to multiple paragraphs could be 
> changed e.g. 1.5 line space between paragraphs.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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