date:20210520

@Nathan what version of TW are you using? You need 5.1.23+

[image: Screenshot 2021-05-21 062059.png]

If you are using 5.1.23, close the preview to see the "pencil" edit button 
to rename the image being imported.

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:43:01 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for your help. I thought the import UI would have the ability to 
> name the imported tiddler. I checked the TiddlyWiki docs and only find this 
> page dealing with tiddler imports 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Importing%20Tiddlers but it doesn't contain any 
> information about naming tiddlers on import.
> When I paste an image from the clipboard this is what I'm seeing and I 
> can't find a way to name the tiddler.
>
> [image: Screenshot - 5_20_21 , 4_36_56 PM.png]
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:58:48 PM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The import UI lets you rename the file before you import. Remember to 
>> include the file extension in the name.
>> Once the file has been saved in the files/ folder there is no further 
>> affordance for renaming it.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:49:32 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for that. After restarting the node.js server I was able to 
>>> import an image as an _canonical_uri linked file. The file was named 
>>> files/image.png. Is there a way to rename the file or choose the file name 
>>> on import?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Nathan, have you restarted the node.js server after installing the 
 plugin?

 If so, check the browser console for any error messages.

 On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 6:45:45 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:

> Saq, I've installed this plugin in my node.js TW. I can see the 
> additional check boxes on the import tiddler and there is an additional 
> 'Save as external file' button on my tiddlers. Unfortunately, when I drag 
> / 
> drop images or copy / paste images an external file is not created nor is 
> the _canonical_uri field set. Instead it seems to create a embedded image 
> just as it did before. Are there any additional setup or workflow changes 
> I 
> need to do in order to use this plugin to add images as external files?
>
> Regards,
> Nathan
>
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:21:10 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>  
>>
>>>  This would mean: when I drag an image or PDF (prio 1 and 2 for me) 
>>> into TW, a tiddler opens (as now) but the binary is stored to the 
>>> default 
>>> media folder and the tiddler contains the canonical-URI.
>>>
>>
>> This plugin allows for exactly this workflow for TW on node.js
>> For a single file TW, the obstacle is that the browser does not allow 
>> the necessary access to the local file system due to security concerns. 
>> At 
>> minimum you would need something like TiddlyDesktop or a browser 
>> extension 
>> to enable this kind of access.
>>  
>>
>>> The top solution - to go one step further :-) - would be to 
>>> automatically transclude the new tiddler at the current position of the 
>>> editor, when an image is imported.
>>>
>>
>> This is in the works. In the meantime you may find this thread to be 
>> of interest: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ueeaCHA7hI0/m/2Ujwl1TABAAJ
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Saq
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Demystify drag-N-drop in Tiddlywiki

Mohammad et al,

Have you used the free OneTab addon for Chrome and Firefox? It allows you 
to close all unpinned tiddlers with a click. Then one tab lists these 
closed tabs as links which you can open each with a click.

Now I mention it because it is a great way to collect a vast list if links 
while researching something or any thing, even local wiki addresses 
serviced by Timimi for 
example file:///C:/Data/TW5/!CustomiseWikiText/V0.8.0.html

You can export all links in one action. Links are of the form;

https://github.com/morosanuae/tw-icons/discussions | Discussions · 
morosanuae/tw-icons

   - you can see the pipe "|" divides the url from the label, but they are 
   the wrong way around.
   - I have seen this format a few times, swap and wrap in [[ ]] and remove 
   spacesa either saide of the [pipe and you have A url and pretty link

Ca the current tools be made to accommodate;

   - This format pasted as a list 
   - Dragging from the One Tab, seems not to allow drop on tiddlywqiki.com

Regards
Tones

On Friday, 21 May 2021 at 01:48:49 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi TT,
> I like all your comments and ideas!
>
> Part of them can be addressed using Wikitex (where I understand the code) 
> and part can be implemented with JS.
> So, I have created an entry in my Tiddlywiki-Lab and collected your ideas!
>
> By the way let's see if we can get other opinion ideas helping to 
> implement these!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM TiddlyTweeter  wrote:
>
>> *TECHNICAL ISSUES ON D-N-D*
>>
>> Whilst D-n-D is a lot better on browsers that it used to be *there can 
>> definitely still be issues* just getting it to work.
>> We need to understand these BETTER and solve them.
>>
>> *I STILL cannot get your examples to work on Firefox (latest).* I am 
>> unclear WHY? It is likely some setting in the config of the browser? I am 
>> not sure. 
>> Eventually I'll work it out. But it is not a good sign. A normal user 
>> expects stuff to just work.
>>
>> D-n-D on mobile is very useful to have *(ALL students work on phones on 
>> their way to college :-). *Obviously, in a touch-screen-environment, 
>> with pages not showing tabs, is quite different than Desktop. 
>> TBH this needs to be thought into more! 
>> How can we make a smart-phone TW UI work optimally for D-n-D of links?
>>
>> Side comments
>> TT
>>
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Re: [tw5] [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

Ste,

*Is this something the fission collective pot thing could also be applied 
to? Can we/ should we push that a bit more? *

Please elaborate, I do not know to what you refer.

Tones

On Friday, 21 May 2021 at 00:33:16 UTC+10 Ste wrote:

> Is this something the fission collective pot thing could also be applied 
> to? Can we/ should we push that a bit more? 
>
> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 09:58:59 UTC+1 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Tones, R²,
>>
>> Thanks for the thoughtful posts.
>>
>>
>> On 20 May 2021, at 08:06, R²  wrote:
>>
>> It seems there's no "Tiddlywiki developer for hire" page on 
>> tiddlywiki.com, which seems like a missed opportunity.
>>
>>
>> I have been thinking about that recently, and have a tentative plan to 
>> build a new https://market.tiddlywiki.com/ site that would consist of 
>> classified listings of services offered and services wanted. I’d be 
>> inclined to focus on the “sell” side first, making a storefront for 
>> people/organisations to offer their services.
>>
>> Just like links.tiddlywiki.com, the idea is that each seller would 
>> register the URL of a TiddlyWiki that contains the details of their 
>> offering. The system would scrape the individual sites at regular intervals 
>> and aggregate together the information into a single site.
>>
>> Site visitors would see a page listing all of the sellers, and be able to 
>> click through to see a page with the full details of a seller. We could 
>> reuse the tagging and search from links.tiddlywiki.com.
>>
>> Some of the information that would be useful to bring together:
>>
>> * Name
>> * Logo
>> * Site URL
>> * Services offered (again, we’d need to evolve a set of standard tags for 
>> this)
>> * Timezone
>> * Languages spoken/written
>> * Areas of specialisation
>> * Links to past work
>> * Case studies
>> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki core
>> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki discussion 
>> forums
>> * Perhaps a country of operations for legal purposes
>>
>> I think we could get something along those lines up and running fairly 
>> quickly, and then could evolve it be something more dynamic that could 
>> incorporate user feedback.
>>
>> The Drupal project maintains a marketplace site along the lines I’m 
>> describing:
>>
>> https://www.drupal.org/drupal-services
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Import as external files (Node.js)

2021-05-20 Thread Nathan Sain

Thanks for your help. I thought the import UI would have the ability to 
name the imported tiddler. I checked the TiddlyWiki docs and only find this 
page dealing with tiddler imports 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Importing%20Tiddlers but it doesn't contain any 
information about naming tiddlers on import.
When I paste an image from the clipboard this is what I'm seeing and I 
can't find a way to name the tiddler.

[image: Screenshot - 5_20_21 , 4_36_56 PM.png]
On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:58:48 PM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> The import UI lets you rename the file before you import. Remember to 
> include the file extension in the name.
> Once the file has been saved in the files/ folder there is no further 
> affordance for renaming it.
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:49:32 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that. After restarting the node.js server I was able to import 
>> an image as an _canonical_uri linked file. The file was named 
>> files/image.png. Is there a way to rename the file or choose the file name 
>> on import?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nathan
>>
>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Nathan, have you restarted the node.js server after installing the 
>>> plugin?
>>>
>>> If so, check the browser console for any error messages.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 6:45:45 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Saq, I've installed this plugin in my node.js TW. I can see the 
 additional check boxes on the import tiddler and there is an additional 
 'Save as external file' button on my tiddlers. Unfortunately, when I drag 
 / 
 drop images or copy / paste images an external file is not created nor is 
 the _canonical_uri field set. Instead it seems to create a embedded image 
 just as it did before. Are there any additional setup or workflow changes 
 I 
 need to do in order to use this plugin to add images as external files?

 Regards,
 Nathan

 On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:21:10 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>  
>
>>  This would mean: when I drag an image or PDF (prio 1 and 2 for me) 
>> into TW, a tiddler opens (as now) but the binary is stored to the 
>> default 
>> media folder and the tiddler contains the canonical-URI.
>>
>
> This plugin allows for exactly this workflow for TW on node.js
> For a single file TW, the obstacle is that the browser does not allow 
> the necessary access to the local file system due to security concerns. 
> At 
> minimum you would need something like TiddlyDesktop or a browser 
> extension 
> to enable this kind of access.
>  
>
>> The top solution - to go one step further :-) - would be to 
>> automatically transclude the new tiddler at the current position of the 
>> editor, when an image is imported.
>>
>
> This is in the works. In the meantime you may find this thread to be 
> of interest: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ueeaCHA7hI0/m/2Ujwl1TABAAJ
>
> Regards,
>
> Saq
>


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Re: [tw5] [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

2021-05-20 Thread Javier Eduardo Rojas Romero

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:14:50PM -0500, Javier Eduardo Rojas Romero wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:57:52AM -0700, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
> > The archival imperative of https://archive.org/web/ is brilliant.
> > 
> > Thinking about it was struck that maybe it is common sense to safely 
> > archive one's own wikis too.
> > 
> > But how? Where? When?

> ... see
> for example https://pinboard.in/cached/2d6fe5320767/ , which is a
> snapshot I generated for http://musicsheets.tiddlyspot.com/

Apologies, I just noticed that only registered users can see that
snapshot, which makes the exercise kinda moot.

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Re: [tw5] [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

2021-05-20 Thread Javier Eduardo Rojas Romero

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:57:52AM -0700, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
> The archival imperative of https://archive.org/web/ is brilliant.
> 
> Thinking about it was struck that maybe it is common sense to safely 
> archive one's own wikis too.
> 
> But how? Where? When?

If you don't mind doing it manually, you can use Pinboard
(https://pinboard.in); it's a (paid) bookmarking service that enables
you to not only bookmark a page and associate tags to it, but also
perform a snapshot of it (if you choose that subscription plan).

Usually those snapshots only save the page's contents, and don't save
any external resources; but, since tiddlywiki pages are completely
self-contained, the snapshot generated by pinboard works properly; see
for example https://pinboard.in/cached/2d6fe5320767/ , which is a
snapshot I generated for http://musicsheets.tiddlyspot.com/

Cheers,

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Re: [tw5] Import as external files (Node.js)

The import UI lets you rename the file before you import. Remember to 
include the file extension in the name.
Once the file has been saved in the files/ folder there is no further 
affordance for renaming it.

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:49:32 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for that. After restarting the node.js server I was able to import 
> an image as an _canonical_uri linked file. The file was named 
> files/image.png. Is there a way to rename the file or choose the file name 
> on import?
>
> Regards,
> Nathan
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nathan, have you restarted the node.js server after installing the plugin?
>>
>> If so, check the browser console for any error messages.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 6:45:45 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Saq, I've installed this plugin in my node.js TW. I can see the 
>>> additional check boxes on the import tiddler and there is an additional 
>>> 'Save as external file' button on my tiddlers. Unfortunately, when I drag / 
>>> drop images or copy / paste images an external file is not created nor is 
>>> the _canonical_uri field set. Instead it seems to create a embedded image 
>>> just as it did before. Are there any additional setup or workflow changes I 
>>> need to do in order to use this plugin to add images as external files?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:21:10 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Peter,
  

>  This would mean: when I drag an image or PDF (prio 1 and 2 for me) 
> into TW, a tiddler opens (as now) but the binary is stored to the default 
> media folder and the tiddler contains the canonical-URI.
>

 This plugin allows for exactly this workflow for TW on node.js
 For a single file TW, the obstacle is that the browser does not allow 
 the necessary access to the local file system due to security concerns. At 
 minimum you would need something like TiddlyDesktop or a browser extension 
 to enable this kind of access.
  

> The top solution - to go one step further :-) - would be to 
> automatically transclude the new tiddler at the current position of the 
> editor, when an image is imported.
>

 This is in the works. In the meantime you may find this thread to be of 
 interest: 
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ueeaCHA7hI0/m/2Ujwl1TABAAJ

 Regards,

 Saq

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Import as external files (Node.js)

2021-05-20 Thread Nathan Sain

Thanks for that. After restarting the node.js server I was able to import 
an image as an _canonical_uri linked file. The file was named 
files/image.png. Is there a way to rename the file or choose the file name 
on import?

Regards,
Nathan

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nathan, have you restarted the node.js server after installing the plugin?
>
> If so, check the browser console for any error messages.
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 6:45:45 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Saq, I've installed this plugin in my node.js TW. I can see the 
>> additional check boxes on the import tiddler and there is an additional 
>> 'Save as external file' button on my tiddlers. Unfortunately, when I drag / 
>> drop images or copy / paste images an external file is not created nor is 
>> the _canonical_uri field set. Instead it seems to create a embedded image 
>> just as it did before. Are there any additional setup or workflow changes I 
>> need to do in order to use this plugin to add images as external files?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nathan
>>
>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:21:10 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>  
>>>
  This would mean: when I drag an image or PDF (prio 1 and 2 for me) 
 into TW, a tiddler opens (as now) but the binary is stored to the default 
 media folder and the tiddler contains the canonical-URI.

>>>
>>> This plugin allows for exactly this workflow for TW on node.js
>>> For a single file TW, the obstacle is that the browser does not allow 
>>> the necessary access to the local file system due to security concerns. At 
>>> minimum you would need something like TiddlyDesktop or a browser extension 
>>> to enable this kind of access.
>>>  
>>>
 The top solution - to go one step further :-) - would be to 
 automatically transclude the new tiddler at the current position of the 
 editor, when an image is imported.

>>>
>>> This is in the works. In the meantime you may find this thread to be of 
>>> interest: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ueeaCHA7hI0/m/2Ujwl1TABAAJ
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Saq
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Fission Demo Day

2021-05-20 Thread David Gifford

Was the event recorded? I was not able to attend.

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 3:06:40 AM UTC-5 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> I’ve been invited to do a brief demo of some new developments at tomorrows 
> Fission Demo Day. Everyone is welcome to join, details are here:
>
> https://lu.ma/13ez2zgs
>
> Boris Mann at Fission is doing a great job of bringing together the 
> communities around tools for thought. I’m enjoying seeing more of what 
> other people are doing in the field. With any luck, one of the tangible 
> outcomes of this meta-community might be improvements to interoperability 
> between tools.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: German documentation / deutsche Dokumentation

2021-05-20 Thread Frank Bruns-Ballhausen

Ok als nächstes also Filter Operatoren, war auch das erste was ich 
übersetzt hatte. Deshalb wollte ich die eh nochmal überarbeiten.
> *Ich hab da schon eine Idee. *
Dann musst du die aber auch, wenigsten ansatzweise, beschreiben ;-).

Aber schön eins nach dem anderen. Jetzt hätte ich erstmal gerne etwas mit 
dem ich weitermachen kann ohne auf deiner Seite unnötigen Aufwand zu 
erzeugen.
Also warte ich jetzt erstmal auf deine Beschreibung wie ich das, was du auf 
GitHub eingestellt hast, zum laufen bekomme.
Warten bedeutet bei mir ich spiele mal ein bissel rum :-)

Grüße Frank

PMario schrieb am Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2021 um 00:04:50 UTC+2:

> Hi,
> Was wir unbedingt noch erweitern müssen, sind die restlichen Filter 
> Operatoren und wenn's geht die Beispiele.
> Außerdem müssen wir und für Filter und die Widget Parameter etwas 
> einfallen lassen, damit wir schnell erkennen können, wenn sich da etwas 
> verändert hat. ... Ansonsten laufen die "Referenz Beschreibungen" schnell 
> auseinander, was dann zu Problemen bei den Anwendern führt. 
>
> Ich hab da schon eine Idee. 
>
> -mario
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: German documentation / deutsche Dokumentation

2021-05-20 Thread Frank Bruns-Ballhausen

Grüß dich Mario,
 
>  * Welche OS verwendest Du? ... Ich kann eine Beschreibung oder ein Video 
zusammen stellen, das zeigt wie man mit nodejs und GitHub arbeiten kann*
Ich arbeite mit Linux. Mit Node.js hab ich auch schon gearbeiten, nur bei 
GitHub kenn ich mich so gar nicht aus.
Auch habe ich mir die Nutzung von TiddlyWiki unter Node.js noch nicht so 
genau angesehen ich brauchte es bis dato nur offline.
Seufz... das heißt wohl ich muss mir doch einen Account bei GitHub zulegen?

Ja eine kurze Anleitung wäre recht.

MfG Frank

PMario schrieb am Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2021 um 23:59:12 UTC+2:

> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 9:37:43 PM UTC+2 f.brunsb...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> super ich freu mich. Wegen deinen Anmerkungen hätte ich auch noch ein paar 
>> Sätze.
>> Mit den Links zu "*den englischen original Tiddlern*" meinst Du sicher 
>> das wikidokulink-Macro oder? Das ist mir leider erst etwas spät eingefallen 
>> sonst hättte ich das schon eher überall eingebaut, zumindest da wo es mir 
>> wichtig erscheint.
>>
>
> Ja ... Ich hab das erst nach meinem post gesehen :) ... Ich dachte eher an 
> die "tiddler info-section" unter dem Erweitert tab. ... Aber als "footer" 
> gefällt es mir besser, da es viel mehr ins Auge springt. 
>  
>
>> Apropos spät, das mit den "$:/editions/tw5.com/macros" ist mir erst nach 
>> dem Upgrade auf die aktuellste Version aufgefallen. Wie gesagt war das mit 
>> dem Weitergeben gar nicht so gedacht :-)
>>
>
> Kein Problem. Ich hab's eingebaut. ... 
>  
>
>> Die viele der ursprünglichen Macro-Namen habe ich aber übernommen. Das 
>> dürfte nicht so das Problem sein. 
>> Außerdem bedeutet das ja nicht das Du alles machen sollst. Ich kann das 
>> ja ebenso erledigen.
>>
>
> Ja wäre schön, wenn uns auch noch andere helfen!
>  
>
>> Meinen Danbo kannst Du gerne auf GitHub "verfügbar" machen. Brauchs Du 
>> dafür irgend was von mir? 
>>
>
> Nein.
>  
>
>> Alternativ kann ich diesen auch auf Wikipedia bzw. auf Wikimedia.Commons 
>> hochladen.
>> Andererseits brauchen wir ja nicht zwangsläufig nicht dieses Bild und 
>> auch mein dazugehöriges Macro war ja nur für den Eigenbedarf.
>>
>
> Kein Problem. .. 
>  
>
>> Die SVG's hast du bearbeitet? Wie? Womit? Ich habe die in Inkscape 
>> erstellt und 'ne Weile rumprobiert bis es save angezeigt wurde.
>>
>
> :) .. Inkscape ist gut. Ich verwende "Speichern Unter : Optimiertes SVG" 
> wenn ich für TW exportiere. Das entfernt dann viel XML overhead. 
> https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/ ... mit default Einstellungen, 
> reicht meistens aus für 30-50% ... 
> Dann noch mit VS-Code html - beautify ... damit man es wider lesen kann. :)
>  
>
>> Wie gesagt ich kann das auch so umbauen das es passt. Lass uns darüber 
>> reden wie das aussehen soll. Ich möchte ungern weitermachen, wenn es danach 
>> doch wieder umgebaut werden muss.
>>
>
> Die filter Operatoren gingen relative schnell. Ich musste nur den Tabellen 
> "header" entfernen und das TW5-com operator-template aktivieren. Ging 
> schneller als ich dachte. 
>  
>
>> Schöne Grüße Frank
>>
>> *PS: Ach und schreib kurz wenn es soweit ist.*
>>
>
> Was am meisten Zeit brauchte, ist die Tiddler in die richtigen 
> Verzeichnisse zu verschieben. ... Ich hatte vergessen dass ein Import von 
> einem File-Wiki keine Pfad-infos mit hat. ... Wird alles unter 
> xxx/tiddlers/ gespeichert. 
>
> Ich hab jetzt eine $:/config/FileSystemPaths Konfiguration erstellt, die 
> die neuen Tiddler über "tags" besser sortieren sollte. ... Muss noch 
> verbessert werden. Aber für den Start sollte es reichen. 
>
> Welche OS verwendest Du? ... Ich kann eine Beschreibung oder ein Video 
> zusammen stellen, das zeigt wie man mit nodejs und GitHub arbeiten kann. 
> ... Dann werden die neuen tiddler hoffentlich gleich im richtigen 
> Verzeichnis erstellt. 
>
> Habe eben einen "Draft PullRequest" erstellt. 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5703 ... 495 files 
> verändert. Echt gute Arbeit! ;)
> Die neue Struktur ist hier zu sehen: 
> https://github.com/pmario/TiddlyWiki5/tree/german-translation/editions/de-AT/tiddlers
>
> -mario
>
>

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[tw5] [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

2021-05-20 Thread TiddlyTweeter

The archival imperative of https://archive.org/web/ is brilliant.

Thinking about it was struck that maybe it is common sense to safely 
archive one's own wikis too.

But how? Where? When?

Just an open question.
TT

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[tw5] Re: Formatting center alignment and TW philosophy

Thanks David, yes - that is probably easier for a short text. 





On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 17:20:51 UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:

> It is also easily forgotten that @@.cssclass Your text@@ applies the 
> .cssclass too.
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:11:50 AM UTC-5 jonligh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I know its an old post but..
>>
>> My thought is to take advantage of the quote feature that is already 
>> there - it has provision for adding your own CSS class. 
>>
>> <<<
>> Here is my 
>> text after I selected it and
>> pressed the highlight button ( large start double quote symbol )
>> <<<
>>
>> Then add your own class 'CA' for centre aligned taking care to reset or 
>> nullify the aspects of the default quote that you do not want. 
>>
>> <<<.CA
>> <<< 
>>
>> This is the thing I love about the provision for custom classes for the 
>> quotes feature - as long as you can make up some easy to remember short 
>> class names you can pretty much
>> invent any block level formatting and yet leave the regular functionality 
>> untouched - all for the cost of writing or cribbing the custom CSS once and 
>> then adding a dot and then adding 'dot' class.
>>
>>
>> I think I would have to disagree with complaints about CSS geekery - a 
>> word processor may have some extra features but is not generally as 
>> extendable or flexible as Tiddlywiki, the pay-back for a few trips to this 
>> forum is huge and as others have pointed out unless you use a word 
>> processor which provides enough buttons for every format option, at some 
>> stage you end up in some kind of style sheet or style declaration, almost 
>> everyone wants 'KISS' until they have a unique formatting requirement and 
>> then suddenly find themself wanting more flexibility and rejecting built in 
>> defaults. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 14 November 2008 at 11:07:07 UTC iain wrote:
>>
>>> I can see where you are coming from Cloudburst Poetry, it is 
>>> frustrating that to use TW it seems that you need to know something 
>>> about HTML and CSS (and thanks very much to Eric I now know allot more 
>>> about CSS). 
>>>
>>> But isn't this where the various fully formatted TW's such as "No 
>>> Brainer Notes" and "Fiddly Wiki" come into play? I could use some of 
>>> these immediately without any knowledge of HTML or CSS. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Import as external files (Node.js)

Nathan, have you restarted the node.js server after installing the plugin?

If so, check the browser console for any error messages.

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 6:45:45 PM UTC+2 natha...@gmail.com wrote:

> Saq, I've installed this plugin in my node.js TW. I can see the additional 
> check boxes on the import tiddler and there is an additional 'Save as 
> external file' button on my tiddlers. Unfortunately, when I drag / drop 
> images or copy / paste images an external file is not created nor is the 
> _canonical_uri field set. Instead it seems to create a embedded image just 
> as it did before. Are there any additional setup or workflow changes I need 
> to do in order to use this plugin to add images as external files?
>
> Regards,
> Nathan
>
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:21:10 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>  
>>
>>>  This would mean: when I drag an image or PDF (prio 1 and 2 for me) into 
>>> TW, a tiddler opens (as now) but the binary is stored to the default media 
>>> folder and the tiddler contains the canonical-URI.
>>>
>>
>> This plugin allows for exactly this workflow for TW on node.js
>> For a single file TW, the obstacle is that the browser does not allow the 
>> necessary access to the local file system due to security concerns. At 
>> minimum you would need something like TiddlyDesktop or a browser extension 
>> to enable this kind of access.
>>  
>>
>>> The top solution - to go one step further :-) - would be to 
>>> automatically transclude the new tiddler at the current position of the 
>>> editor, when an image is imported.
>>>
>>
>> This is in the works. In the meantime you may find this thread to be of 
>> interest: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ueeaCHA7hI0/m/2Ujwl1TABAAJ
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Saq
>>
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Re: [tw5] Import as external files (Node.js)

2021-05-20 Thread Nathan Sain

Saq, I've installed this plugin in my node.js TW. I can see the additional 
check boxes on the import tiddler and there is an additional 'Save as 
external file' button on my tiddlers. Unfortunately, when I drag / drop 
images or copy / paste images an external file is not created nor is the 
_canonical_uri field set. Instead it seems to create a embedded image just 
as it did before. Are there any additional setup or workflow changes I need 
to do in order to use this plugin to add images as external files?

Regards,
Nathan

On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:21:10 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>  
>
>>  This would mean: when I drag an image or PDF (prio 1 and 2 for me) into 
>> TW, a tiddler opens (as now) but the binary is stored to the default media 
>> folder and the tiddler contains the canonical-URI.
>>
>
> This plugin allows for exactly this workflow for TW on node.js
> For a single file TW, the obstacle is that the browser does not allow the 
> necessary access to the local file system due to security concerns. At 
> minimum you would need something like TiddlyDesktop or a browser extension 
> to enable this kind of access.
>  
>
>> The top solution - to go one step further :-) - would be to automatically 
>> transclude the new tiddler at the current position of the editor, when an 
>> image is imported.
>>
>
> This is in the works. In the meantime you may find this thread to be of 
> interest: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ueeaCHA7hI0/m/2Ujwl1TABAAJ
>
> Regards,
>
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Re: Formatting center alignment and TW philosophy

2021-05-20 Thread David Gifford

It is also easily forgotten that @@.cssclass Your text@@ applies the 
.cssclass too.

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:11:50 AM UTC-5 jonligh...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know its an old post but..
>
> My thought is to take advantage of the quote feature that is already there 
> - it has provision for adding your own CSS class. 
>
> <<<
> Here is my 
> text after I selected it and
> pressed the highlight button ( large start double quote symbol )
> <<<
>
> Then add your own class 'CA' for centre aligned taking care to reset or 
> nullify the aspects of the default quote that you do not want. 
>
> <<<.CA
> <<< 
>
> This is the thing I love about the provision for custom classes for the 
> quotes feature - as long as you can make up some easy to remember short 
> class names you can pretty much
> invent any block level formatting and yet leave the regular functionality 
> untouched - all for the cost of writing or cribbing the custom CSS once and 
> then adding a dot and then adding 'dot' class.
>
>
> I think I would have to disagree with complaints about CSS geekery - a 
> word processor may have some extra features but is not generally as 
> extendable or flexible as Tiddlywiki, the pay-back for a few trips to this 
> forum is huge and as others have pointed out unless you use a word 
> processor which provides enough buttons for every format option, at some 
> stage you end up in some kind of style sheet or style declaration, almost 
> everyone wants 'KISS' until they have a unique formatting requirement and 
> then suddenly find themself wanting more flexibility and rejecting built in 
> defaults. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, 14 November 2008 at 11:07:07 UTC iain wrote:
>
>> I can see where you are coming from Cloudburst Poetry, it is 
>> frustrating that to use TW it seems that you need to know something 
>> about HTML and CSS (and thanks very much to Eric I now know allot more 
>> about CSS). 
>>
>> But isn't this where the various fully formatted TW's such as "No 
>> Brainer Notes" and "Fiddly Wiki" come into play? I could use some of 
>> these immediately without any knowledge of HTML or CSS. 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Formatting center alignment and TW philosophy

I know its an old post but..

My thought is to take advantage of the quote feature that is already there 
- it has provision for adding your own CSS class. 

<<<
Here is my 
text after I selected it and
pressed the highlight button ( large start double quote symbol )
<<<

Then add your own class 'CA' for centre aligned taking care to reset or 
nullify the aspects of the default quote that you do not want. 

<<<.CA
<<< 

This is the thing I love about the provision for custom classes for the 
quotes feature - as long as you can make up some easy to remember short 
class names you can pretty much
invent any block level formatting and yet leave the regular functionality 
untouched - all for the cost of writing or cribbing the custom CSS once and 
then adding a dot and then adding 'dot' class.

I think I would have to disagree with complaints about CSS geekery - a word 
processor may have some extra features but is not generally as extendable 
or flexible as Tiddlywiki, the pay-back for a few trips to this forum is 
huge and as others have pointed out unless you use a word processor which 
provides enough buttons for every format option, at some stage you end up 
in some kind of style sheet or style declaration, almost everyone wants 
'KISS' until they have a unique formatting requirement and then suddenly 
find themself wanting more flexibility and rejecting built in defaults. 

On Friday, 14 November 2008 at 11:07:07 UTC iain wrote:

> I can see where you are coming from Cloudburst Poetry, it is
> frustrating that to use TW it seems that you need to know something
> about HTML and CSS (and thanks very much to Eric I now know allot more
> about CSS).
>
> But isn't this where the various fully formatted TW's such as "No
> Brainer Notes" and "Fiddly Wiki" come into play? I could use some of
> these immediately without any knowledge of HTML or CSS.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

2021-05-20 Thread si

>>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084  

Thanks!

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 04:36:11 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>
>> Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing with 
>> column templates to see how they work.
>>
>> Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of dynamic 
>> table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.
>>
> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084 
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
>
>> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of the 
>>> current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of that 
>>> tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method  
>>> recently implemented in 
>>> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see 
>>> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>>>
>>> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection of 
>>> dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to show 
>>> links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
>>> For details see 
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
>>> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node 
>>> Explorer on demand!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Code and demo*
>>>
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Demystify drag-N-drop in Tiddlywiki

Hi TT,
I like all your comments and ideas!

Part of them can be addressed using Wikitex (where I understand the code)
and part can be implemented with JS.
So, I have created an entry in my Tiddlywiki-Lab and collected your ideas!

By the way let's see if we can get other opinion ideas helping to implement
these!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> *TECHNICAL ISSUES ON D-N-D*
>
> Whilst D-n-D is a lot better on browsers that it used to be *there can
> definitely still be issues* just getting it to work.
> We need to understand these BETTER and solve them.
>
> *I STILL cannot get your examples to work on Firefox (latest).* I am
> unclear WHY? It is likely some setting in the config of the browser? I am
> not sure.
> Eventually I'll work it out. But it is not a good sign. A normal user
> expects stuff to just work.
>
> D-n-D on mobile is very useful to have *(ALL students work on phones on
> their way to college :-). *Obviously, in a touch-screen-environment, with
> pages not showing tabs, is quite different than Desktop.
> TBH this needs to be thought into more!
> How can we make a smart-phone TW UI work optimally for D-n-D of links?
>
> Side comments
> TT
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Re: [tw5] Re: TW-Scripts A Community Resource For All Users

Hi Ste,
 There is a simple way and a hard way to do that!

Simple way

   1. Open TW-Scripts (If you have not a local copy open from
   https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/)
   2. Create a solution
   3. Export it to JSON
   4. Send me (email me or send as a post on GitHub)

Hard way

   1. Create a new solution as above
   2. Create PR on GitHub


The best is to see the current solution and clone one! TW-Scripts uses
Shiraz for formatting and things like that!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:16 PM Ste  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
> You said your plan was to have many contributors.
> How can the community contribute to this?  As I'm putting a small trickle
> of links into the official links list https://links.tiddlywiki.com/ would
> it be possible to use that wiki to contribute the occasional code snippet
> or is it a git hub thing?
> (p.s. (I have starred you! :D )
> On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 19:50:38 UTC+1 Anjar wrote:
>
>> This is beautiful, Mohammad, thank you for curating, refining, and
>> documenting these scripts! A very powerful resource!
>>
>> Best,
>> Anders
>> mandag 26. april 2021 kl. 17:12:08 UTC+2 skrev Mohammad:
>>
>>> @Odin
>>> Thank you! To contribute: the simple way to open TW-Script, from the
>>> sidebar click on create a new solutio and fill it the fields and email to
>>> me!
>>> the hard way, add contents and send PRs.
>>>
>>> @Ray
>>> Thank you , Hope you find it helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:58 AM Odin  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mohammed,

 I wish I could star TW-Scripts  a million times, because I used it many
 times when I am trying to make something in TiddlyWiki. It is a very
 helpful resource for sure!

 I see you are looking for contributors. Can you give an example how
 people can contribute? Say, someone has written a solution/script, how
 would like them to add it to the wiki?

 Op maandag 26 april 2021 om 08:05:06 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:

> There is a new update out there!
>
> A new Explorer tab in the sidebar (the idea from Soren) has been added
> to simply search in solutions, keywords and responders!
> Uglify plugin used to reduce the size considerably! Field search from
> Mario used!
>
> It needs polishing and finishing the 90 remaining tasks ;-) but very
> useful!
> The old version is there and can be downloaded as before
> https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts/releases/tag/5.1.21
>
> Page: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
> Github code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts
>
>
> Funny facts:
> 1. The plan was to have a weekly update (now it has got yearly update
> with many unfinished tasks)
> 2. The plan was to have many contributors (it had one contributor,
> then two and now has half ;-)
> 3. It was thought it will get millions of stars in GitHub ;-) :) :),
> it has 22 stars (better than no star!!)
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 9:04:36 AM UTC+3:30 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> TW-Scripts is one of the most comprehensive collection of solutions
>> including codes, macros, stylesheets, tips and tricks for Tiddlywiki 5.
>>
>> While it has not been updated for a while, but it is there with a lot
>> of answers to your questions specially for those who have recently 
>> started
>> Tiddlywiki.
>>
>>
>> Page: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
>> Github code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts
>>
>>
>> I hopefully update it as I get some free time!
>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

2021-05-20 Thread 'niclas....@googlemail.com' via TiddlyWiki

Hi Odin,
 If you copy paste from TW itself or another editor, Google group will keep
the formatting!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 7:26 PM Odin  wrote:

> @Mohammad,
>
> How did you include that codeblock with coloring inside your post like
> that!?
> Google groups does have some text styling options, but it is missing
> codeblocks for me.
>
> Op donderdag 20 mei 2021 om 11:16:43 UTC+2 schreef 謝佩琪:
>
>> It's work!
>>
>> I'm not good at macro & filter ️
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Mohammad 在 2021年5月20日 星期四下午3:42:50 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：
>>
>>> Sure, use the attached viewtemplate which
>>>
>>> 1. uses a background color (alert-secondary) change if you do not like
>>> it or remove the class to use plain form
>>> 2. show on demand (by default it is hidden, use status parameter of
>>> details macro to change initial status)
>>>
>>> NOTE: The hide/show content uses details macro from Shiraz! It is highly
>>> customizable! Customize feel and look! Use any Shiraz classes!
>>>
>>> <$macrocall
>>>   $name=details
>>>   label="Node Explorer"
>>>   status=""
>>>   labelClass="alert alert-secondary py-1 my-2"
>>>   srcClass  ="alert border-secondary py-0"
>>>   src=<>
>>>   />
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: img_180_%pn.gif]
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:34 AM 謝佩琪  wrote:
>>>
 Great feature!
 Thank you very much!


 Is there any way to hide and show the list?
 Because some tiddlers have many links, and it is very long

 Thanks!
 Mohammad 在 2021年5月20日 星期四上午11:36:11 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：

> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>
>> Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing
>> with column templates to see how they work.
>>
>> Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of
>> dynamic table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.
>>
> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
>
>> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of
>>> the current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of
>>> that tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method
>>> recently implemented in
>>> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see
>>> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>>>
>>> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection
>>> of dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to
>>> show links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
>>> For details see
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
>>> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node
>>> Explorer on demand!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Code and demo*
>>>
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

2021-05-20 Thread Odin

@Mohammad,

How did you include that codeblock with coloring inside your post like 
that!?
Google groups does have some text styling options, but it is missing 
codeblocks for me.

Op donderdag 20 mei 2021 om 11:16:43 UTC+2 schreef 謝佩琪:

> It's work!
>
> I'm not good at macro & filter ️
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Mohammad 在 2021年5月20日 星期四下午3:42:50 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：
>
>> Sure, use the attached viewtemplate which
>>
>> 1. uses a background color (alert-secondary) change if you do not like it 
>> or remove the class to use plain form
>> 2. show on demand (by default it is hidden, use status parameter of 
>> details macro to change initial status)
>>
>> NOTE: The hide/show content uses details macro from Shiraz! It is highly 
>> customizable! Customize feel and look! Use any Shiraz classes!
>>
>> <$macrocall 
>>   $name=details 
>>   label="Node Explorer"
>>   status=""
>>   labelClass="alert alert-secondary py-1 my-2"
>>   srcClass  ="alert border-secondary py-0"
>>   src=<>
>>   />
>>
>>
>> [image: img_180_%pn.gif]
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:34 AM 謝佩琪  wrote:
>>
>>> Great feature!
>>> Thank you very much!
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any way to hide and show the list?
>>> Because some tiddlers have many links, and it is very long
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mohammad 在 2021年5月20日 星期四上午11:36:11 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：
>>>
 On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:

> Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing 
> with column templates to see how they work.
>
> Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of 
> dynamic table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.
>
 Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
 hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084 

 [image: image.png]




> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of the 
>> current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of that 
>> tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method  
>> recently implemented in 
>> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see 
>> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>>
>> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection 
>> of dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to 
>> show links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
>> For details see 
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
>> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node 
>> Explorer on demand!
>>
>>
>> *Code and demo*
>>
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>>
>>
>> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
>>
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Re: [tw5] [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

2021-05-20 Thread Ste

Is this something the fission collective pot thing could also be applied 
to? Can we/ should we push that a bit more? 

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 09:58:59 UTC+1 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Tones, R²,
>
> Thanks for the thoughtful posts.
>
>
> On 20 May 2021, at 08:06, R²  wrote:
>
> It seems there's no "Tiddlywiki developer for hire" page on tiddlywiki.com, 
> which seems like a missed opportunity.
>
>
> I have been thinking about that recently, and have a tentative plan to 
> build a new https://market.tiddlywiki.com/ site that would consist of 
> classified listings of services offered and services wanted. I’d be 
> inclined to focus on the “sell” side first, making a storefront for 
> people/organisations to offer their services.
>
> Just like links.tiddlywiki.com, the idea is that each seller would 
> register the URL of a TiddlyWiki that contains the details of their 
> offering. The system would scrape the individual sites at regular intervals 
> and aggregate together the information into a single site.
>
> Site visitors would see a page listing all of the sellers, and be able to 
> click through to see a page with the full details of a seller. We could 
> reuse the tagging and search from links.tiddlywiki.com.
>
> Some of the information that would be useful to bring together:
>
> * Name
> * Logo
> * Site URL
> * Services offered (again, we’d need to evolve a set of standard tags for 
> this)
> * Timezone
> * Languages spoken/written
> * Areas of specialisation
> * Links to past work
> * Case studies
> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki core
> * Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki discussion 
> forums
> * Perhaps a country of operations for legal purposes
>
> I think we could get something along those lines up and running fairly 
> quickly, and then could evolve it be something more dynamic that could 
> incorporate user feedback.
>
> The Drupal project maintains a marketplace site along the lines I’m 
> describing:
>
> https://www.drupal.org/drupal-services
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] First edition of Grok TiddlyWiki (TW textbook) is live

2021-05-20 Thread Soren Bjornstad

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 9:07:42 AM UTC-5 Cs Molnar wrote:

> I'm still at the beginning but I noticed that the story river is set to 
> zoomin mode by default.
>

Correct, it's not perfect but the feedback I got after the first edition 
was that it's less confusing than classic for newbies, and I think that's 
probably right.

> However, in this context it might be hard for newcomers to understand what 
> do you mean by „open” and „closed” tiddlers. I think it might be hard for 
> them to differentiate between tiddlers they don't see because they haven't 
> opened them or they don't see because the zoomin mode has hidden them, 
> although they are technically  „open”.
>

Did you watch the tour or read "Structure and navigation" in "How to Use 
This Book"? I tried to liken it there to the tabs in your browser...you 
can't see them (except in the list of tabs), but they are still clearly 
"open" in some meaningful sense.

Also, can you point me to where I was talking about "open" and "closed" 
tiddlers? I might be able to clarify things there.

> To tell the truth, in zoomin mode it is pretty useless to look at the 
> "open" tab in the sidebar. The tiddlers on this tab are „open” but I can't 
> see them. So for me they are still „closed”.
>

Why is this useless? It's still by far the fastest way to jump between all 
the stuff you've been looking at recently. 

Thank you for including an „Outline” tiddler and a conventional, 
> hierarchical Table of Contents. The official Tiddlywiki homepage is in dire 
> need of such a feature. I won't rant on about that here but, in short, I'm 
> convinced that Tiddlywiki is not suited for documenting itself. Or, for 
> that matter, any technical product (software, user manuals, etc.).
>

Well, it does have a *Contents *tab in the sidebar with a hierarchical 
table of contents! I agree that that table is not all that useful, but I 
think that's more because the reference documentation for something like TW 
is challenging to divide into a useful hierarchy. For a textbook, it's much 
easier because I can come up with an opinionated order in which the reader 
can proceed through the book…but that's not so useful for tiddlywiki.com 
where the primary use case is people stopping in to look something up.

> Finally, I'm not sure if it's only me, but the internal links have the 
> same color as the body text. This way I can easily miss that a text 
> contains a link.
>

I'm guessing this is the fault of your display's color settings. I embedded 
the fonts and used only standard CSS colors and hex codes, so it *shouldn't* 
look 
any different on your machine and it's definitely different on mine in both 
light and dark mode. The contrast between the link color and the text color 
is a little low, though, especially in dark mode, so I can see how if your 
monitor isn't adjusted quite right, it would be hard to see. That's 
something I might look into in the future (that's the fault of the TW 
palette, not my design, but still my problem!).

I'm also red-green colorblind, so might not see things the same…but that 
wouldn't cause any contrast difference between blue and black.

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[tw5] Advanced Search Results sorting

Hi TiddlyCommunity,
I came up with a little bit of code myself. I found it from a old post and 
it basicly uses the Standard Advanced Search to find all user fields that 
have the searched word and link the Tiddlers. I copied the Advanced Search 
core Tiddler to have everything on one Tiddler, but the problem is it only 
works when i put it after the fieldfilter. My Code looks like this:

\define searchInField(field, for)
<$list filter="[!is[shadow]!is[system]field:$field$/$for$/]">$field$: 
<$link><$view field="title"/> 
\end
<$reveal state="$:/temp/advancedsearch" type="nomatch" text="">

<$list filter="[!is[shadow]!is[system]fields[]] -title -text -tags" 
variable="fieldname">
<$macrocall $name="searchInField" field=<> 
for={{$:/temp/advancedsearch}}/> 




<$macrocall $name="tabs" 
tabsList="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/AdvancedSearch]!has[draft.of]]" 
default="$:/core/ui/AdvancedSearch/System" actions="""<$action-setfield 
$tiddler="$:/state/advancedsearch/currentTab" text=<>/>""" 
explicitState="$:/state/tab--1498284803"/>

 
I want to put the Advanced Searchbar first. Its probably not that hard but 
i fail at it anyways. So how do i get it on top of the filter?
And my second question is, how do i modify the fieldfilter list. Currently 
the filter displays the matching fields and the linked Tiddler one by one. 
Is there a way to combine them into one list for each user field? For 
example i combine all Linked Tiddler with the user field "field1" into a 
list and all user field "field2" into one list. Because right now it 
displays them separate. So when i search for "person" it looks like this:

field1:

   - Tiddler1

field1:

   - Tiddler2

field2:

   - Tiddler3

field2:

   - Tiddler4

But it would look better if it lists them as:

field1:

   - Tiddler 1
   - Tiddler 2

field2:

   - Tiddler 3
   - Tiddler 4

The code itself does exactly what i want but its looks not that nice. I 
would appreciate an suggestion. Thanks

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Re: [tw5] What's not good with many viewtemplates?

2021-05-20 Thread Jeremy Ruston

> > As is often the case I think it depends on how you implement it.
> 
> I distinctly recall @Jermolene singling heavy use of templates as a thing 
> that could slow things down so I my interpretation is that they are more 
> critical in this regard than many other things. So, I'm trying to understand 
> what specifically about them that cause this.

I’d need more context to be clear about what I meant. Was I talking from the 
perspective of adding things to the core, or from the perspective of somebody 
building something out of TiddlyWiki? It sounds like I was talking about adding 
too many view template segments. The “special” thing about view template 
segments is that they appear in every tiddler, and so if they take a long time 
to render the effects will be worse the more tiddlers that are open. Beyond 
that, it’s all just templates all the way down, and the performance trade-off 
remains that performance will generally get worse as the templates get more 
complex.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: What's not good with many viewtemplates?

2021-05-20 Thread Mat

@Tones, thanks for your thoughts.

> As is often the case I think it depends on how you implement it.

I distinctly recall @Jermolene singling heavy use of templates as a thing 
that could slow things down so I my interpretation is that they are more 
critical in this regard than many other things. So, I'm trying to 
understand what specifically about them that cause this.

<:-)

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 1:48:46 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Mat,
>
> As is often the case I think it depends on how you implement it. In one 
> solution I built I had a dozen object different object-type tiddlers, and 
> each of these had there own view and edit templates. However the view 
> template only took the current tiddlers object-template field, obtained the 
> object name and added a prefix eg $:/objects/viewTemplates/objectname and 
> transcluded that.
>
> Therefor the bulk of which was used to display the view template was only 
> transcluded on demand.
>
> I saw no performance issues.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 23:15:25 UTC+10 Mat wrote:
>
>> I've heard cautions against using many viewtemplates, for performance 
>> reasons.
>>
>> But what, *specifically*, causes the poorer performance from this?
>>
>> For example, it doesn't make sense that it would be to locate the 
>> templates because it is still only one search trough *all *tiddlers 
>> regardless if the filter finds one template or a hundred (...right?)
>>
>> So is it rather what the viewtemplate shows that can be a problem? E.g if 
>> a viewtemplate has a lot of nested lists? ...but in that case, one such 
>> viewtemplate could be worse than 10 simpler viewtemplates so it would not 
>> warrant caution from using many viewtemplates *per se*.
>>
>> Or is the problem if there are *many open* tiddlers? Beacuse each of 
>> them shows all viewtemplates? So it is "N open tiddlers" times "M number of 
>> templates". But then the templates only deserves half the blame.
>>
>> Does the caution change when one uses "conditional viewtemplates", i.e 
>> viewtemplates with a wrapping listwidget like
>>   ... 
>> ?
>>
>> In summary: What is the actual problem with many viewtemplates?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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[tw5] Video - skip to a particular time ?

2021-05-20 Thread 'Lean Product Innovation - Jonas Van Poucke' via TiddlyWiki


Hi, sometimes in my Tiddlywiki 5 knowledge base I add local videos stored 
in a directory called wellunimaginatively 'videos' .

As long as I set the tiddler type to text/vnd.tiddlywiki then the following 
works fine for me on desktop. 




Your browser does not support the HTML 5 video tag.



What I would ideally like to do is to write a number of paragraphs each 
detailing ideas and reflections on what the speaker in the video is saying 
with the paragraph preceeded by a link button that will skip the playback 
to that particular point in the video - 'video bookmarks' is a nice way to 
look at it I think.

I can see how to do this in a regular web-page but that all involves 
finding the video in the DOM - for instance a very basic version

document.getElementById("myVideo").currentTime = 100;

I wondered if anyone had played around in this area? Videos are playing an 
increasingly important role in the transmission of ideas, a tiddler that 
can play time coded segments associated with specific text seems like a lot 
of fun and use to me.







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Re: [tw5] Re: TW-Scripts A Community Resource For All Users

2021-05-20 Thread Ste

Hi Mohammad,
You said your plan was to have many contributors.
How can the community contribute to this?  As I'm putting a small trickle 
of links into the official links list https://links.tiddlywiki.com/ would 
it be possible to use that wiki to contribute the occasional code snippet 
or is it a git hub thing?
(p.s. (I have starred you! :D )
On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 19:50:38 UTC+1 Anjar wrote:

> This is beautiful, Mohammad, thank you for curating, refining, and 
> documenting these scripts! A very powerful resource!
>
> Best,
> Anders
> mandag 26. april 2021 kl. 17:12:08 UTC+2 skrev Mohammad:
>
>> @Odin
>> Thank you! To contribute: the simple way to open TW-Script, from the 
>> sidebar click on create a new solutio and fill it the fields and email to 
>> me!
>> the hard way, add contents and send PRs.
>>
>> @Ray
>> Thank you , Hope you find it helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:58 AM Odin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>>
>>> I wish I could star TW-Scripts  a million times, because I used it many 
>>> times when I am trying to make something in TiddlyWiki. It is a very 
>>> helpful resource for sure!
>>>
>>> I see you are looking for contributors. Can you give an example how 
>>> people can contribute? Say, someone has written a solution/script, how 
>>> would like them to add it to the wiki?
>>>
>>> Op maandag 26 april 2021 om 08:05:06 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>>>
 There is a new update out there!

 A new Explorer tab in the sidebar (the idea from Soren) has been added 
 to simply search in solutions, keywords and responders!
 Uglify plugin used to reduce the size considerably! Field search from 
 Mario used!

 It needs polishing and finishing the 90 remaining tasks ;-) but very 
 useful!
 The old version is there and can be downloaded as before 
 https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts/releases/tag/5.1.21

 Page: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
 Github code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts

 Funny facts:
 1. The plan was to have a weekly update (now it has got yearly update 
 with many unfinished tasks)
 2. The plan was to have many contributors (it had one contributor, then 
 two and now has half ;-)
 3. It was thought it will get millions of stars in GitHub ;-) :) :), it 
 has 22 stars (better than no star!!)

 Best wishes
 Mohammad

 On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 9:04:36 AM UTC+3:30 Mohammad wrote:

> TW-Scripts is one of the most comprehensive collection of solutions 
> including codes, macros, stylesheets, tips and tricks for Tiddlywiki 5.
>
> While it has not been updated for a while, but it is there with a lot 
> of answers to your questions specially for those who have recently 
> started 
> Tiddlywiki.
>
>
> Page: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
> Github code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts
>
>
> I hopefully update it as I get some free time!
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

2021-05-20 Thread 謝佩琪

It's work!

I'm not good at macro & filter ️
Thanks for your help!

Mohammad 在 2021年5月20日 星期四下午3:42:50 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：

> Sure, use the attached viewtemplate which
>
> 1. uses a background color (alert-secondary) change if you do not like it 
> or remove the class to use plain form
> 2. show on demand (by default it is hidden, use status parameter of 
> details macro to change initial status)
>
> NOTE: The hide/show content uses details macro from Shiraz! It is highly 
> customizable! Customize feel and look! Use any Shiraz classes!
>
> <$macrocall 
>   $name=details 
>   label="Node Explorer"
>   status=""
>   labelClass="alert alert-secondary py-1 my-2"
>   srcClass  ="alert border-secondary py-0"
>   src=<>
>   />
>
>
> [image: img_180_%pn.gif]
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:34 AM 謝佩琪  wrote:
>
>> Great feature!
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>>
>> Is there any way to hide and show the list?
>> Because some tiddlers have many links, and it is very long
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mohammad 在 2021年5月20日 星期四上午11:36:11 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：
>>
>>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>>>
 Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing 
 with column templates to see how they work.

 Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of dynamic 
 table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.

>>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084 
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of the 
> current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of that 
> tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method  
> recently implemented in 
> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see 
> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>
> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection 
> of dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to 
> show links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
> For details see 
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node 
> Explorer on demand!
>
>
> *Code and demo*
>
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>
>
> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
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[tw5] TidGraph and Link Rendering

I use <$link/> as the mechanism to render nodes.
I then use that link to drag and drop to another tiddler.
I see that nodes have CSS classes added to mimick <$link/>
*but it does not add the listeners* as with a regular link (tested with the 
same link in a plain tiddler).

Is this a correct assumption/analysis? And can this be fixed?
Like in function makeNodeDiv(node) in 
https://github.com/ihm4u/tw5plugs/blob/gh-pages/plugins/ihm/tidgraph/utils.js 
?

Jonas

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Re: [tw5] [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

2021-05-20 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Tones, R²,

Thanks for the thoughtful posts.

> On 20 May 2021, at 08:06, R² wrote:
>
> It seems there's no "Tiddlywiki developer for hire" page on tiddlywiki.com
> , which seems like a missed opportunity.

I have been thinking about that recently, and have a tentative plan to build a
new https://market.tiddlywiki.com/ site that
would consist of classified listings of services offered and services wanted.
I’d be inclined to focus on the “sell” side first, making a storefront for
people/organisations to offer their services.

Just like links.tiddlywiki.com , the idea is that
each seller would register the URL of a TiddlyWiki that contains the details of
their offering. The system would scrape the individual sites at regular
intervals and aggregate together the information into a single site.

Site visitors would see a page listing all of the sellers, and be able to click
through to see a page with the full details of a seller. We could reuse the
tagging and search from links.tiddlywiki.com .

Some of the information that would be useful to bring together:

* Name
* Logo
* Site URL
* Services offered (again, we’d need to evolve a set of standard tags for this)
* Timezone
* Languages spoken/written
* Areas of specialisation
* Links to past work
* Case studies
* Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki core
* Some measure of the contributions made to the TiddlyWiki discussion forums
* Perhaps a country of operations for legal purposes

I think we could get something along those lines up and running fairly quickly,
and then could evolve it be something more dynamic that could incorporate user
feedback.

The Drupal project maintains a marketplace site along the lines I’m describing:

https://www.drupal.org/drupal-services

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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Re: [tw5] Re: UX experiment - editor tools / autocomplete / Streams

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:52 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> Hi @Tony, @Mohamed and @Mohammad, replies inline below:
>
>
>> Could one cause the same to occur on existing text?
>>
>
> @Tony : the mechanism is a shortcut that shows a menu, in which menu items
> can invoke actions. It really does not care about the text, its nature or
> absence or presence.
>
> > consider the "related-to" field, it'll be very useful while editing a
> tiddler to quickly append a title related to it before loosing my train of
> thoughts.
>
> @Mohamed yes the idea is that the menu should be extendable by adding a
> tagged tiddler, with the actions that it should invoke. So you could add a
> menu item with an action to add titles to the related-to field.
>
> > I think you are making an Smart Editor!
> @Mohammad hmm. I like that term. If not a smart editor, then I at least
> think we have the opportunity to provide tools to make the editing
> experience smarter and more intuitive.
>

Yes! smart editing! smart editor!
I assume it would be configurable, different shortcuts bring different
menus! I know fewer is simpler, simpler is better!



> The concept of a menu invoked by / or a similar shortcut is rather
> commonplace, so the UX should be familiar to most.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

Hi R2 and Tones

I saw my name in the post. So I wanted to reply!

1. While there are many other developers/contributors who *deserve to be
named* here, I absolutely name Saq Imtiaz. His talent and great
contributions to Tiddlywiki core and community tools is not deniable.
2. I have never considered myself as a Tiddlywiki developer/contributor, as
I had no or little contribution (I do not know any JS), but I tried to
solve my own problems by asking many questions here in the group or GitHub
and if I solved the problem I shared it with enough documentation
lets others use it be able further develop it (my career is like this! at
university we publish free of charge what we find!)! I asked to star some
projects because I wanted to know if there is any interest to maintain it
(Shiraz has the highest stars = 38 which you can consider as nill!)
3. I definitely support the idea to donate to Tiddlywiki itself and
developers/contributors! and like Google Summer Code, I propose Tiddlywiki
Summer Code to fund some ideas/projects (the fund can be provided as
community donation, ...)


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:36 AM R²  wrote:

> Hi Tones,
>
> Thanks for raising this major question. As most non-developers, despite
> being an active user, I am mostly a passive bystander as far as the
> community is concerned. I am of course highly aware of how much I rely on
> developers such as yourself for my favourite tools and feel strongly about
> finding ways to contribute towards making sure TiddlyWiki can continue to
> thrive.
>
> I've been thinking about this on and off since Soren released his
> incredible Grok Tiddlywiki in particular, as Soren has recently released
> two projects that really resonate with me and has considerably empowered me
> in my tinkering. I finalized a one-off donation this morning after ticking
> off another chapter of Grok TW, but the issue is of course that supporting
> only one developer/documenter, especially as a one-off, feels like an easy
> cop out, and ideally this would have to be balanced out by something that
> makes sure that the key developers are also properly taken into account and
> contributes to some sort of long-term stability and predictability for
> developers.
>
> Now, who are the key developers? Users like me cannot possibly be expected
> to be discerning in that matter when deciding how and where to direct their
> donation. Your top of mind seems to be Jeremy, Mario and Eric, as well as
> yourself to some extent I imagine. Let me tell me about mine. I'd mention
> Jeremy, Dave Gifford and Mohammed, but simply because those are names that
> stuck to my mind while lurking around the forum for my own intents and
> purposes. I would have recognized your icon, though I'd probably have
> associated it to Dave. There's also a guy with a icon of a wolf that I find
> pretty neat and some interesting mannerisms, and another one with a flat
> comics face that seems to be a real regular but I couldn't remember his
> name without checking. I never really went on the Github page except to
> star the project. In reality, I have no precise idea who's contributing
> most and I have a feeling many potential donors wouldn't either. What I
> have is an uninformed, biased vision of someone who couldn't possibly
> intelligently support an individual developer other than based on external
> wow factor alone or random mental shortcuts.
>
> There are probably many more developers out there, with very different
> personal situations. Some would benefit greatly from more money at a
> personal level, while others have high paying jobs and would view this as
> beer or coffee money. Some, including yourself would actually be able to
> commit more time to Tiddlywiki or avoid dropping out by having more funds
> go their way, and these are not necessarily the same as the former group,
> and perhaps even developers that are completely out of the picture at
> present. Beyond this counterfactual, there's also the question of the "bang
> for the buck": a dollar in Iran has more purchasing power that in the US...
> So many questions that personally have led me to a situation of analysis
> paralysis regarding Tiddlywiki and yet, here I am, also a long-term monthly
> donator to Linux Mint. Mint provided me with an easy "set and forget"
> mechanism to support the community, presenting me with a nice, trustworthy
> black box to address my money to. It's easy to view this support through
> the SaaS lens too. I currently pay $5 a month, an amount I decided based
> both on my modest means and on what Microsoft probably managed to squeeze
> out of me on average when I was a Windows user. I also pay for my Internet
> access (a share of €18/2=€9 per month), my phone bill (€5*2=€10 for my two
> lines), an Internet server and domain names, and pay around €120 per year
> for other software (mostly as donations these days). Supporting my PIM
> shouldn't be any different, and I indeed used to pay for

[tw5] Re: UX experiment - editor tools / autocomplete / Streams

Saq,
I do not know if you looked at the custom markup project of Marios?. The 
key function is to enter a custom markup glyph at the beginning of a line 
or wrap text in line. The designer can build complex markup to use 
subsequently in the text fields. From as simple as a color to automatic 
checkboxes and whole layouts.

I can imagine with such "rapid entry" tools such as this and a few others 
soon we will have whole websites written in a few hundred key strokes. That 
what I call smart.

Add to this the ability to edit a tiddler and drag "modules" of code from 
the side bar Wix and Squarespace  may loose their shine :)

Tones

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 17:22:49 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> Hi @Tony, @Mohamed and @Mohammad, replies inline below:
>  
>
>> Could one cause the same to occur on existing text?
>>
>
> @Tony : the mechanism is a shortcut that shows a menu, in which menu items 
> can invoke actions. It really does not care about the text, its nature or 
> absence or presence.
>
> > consider the "related-to" field, it'll be very useful while editing a 
> tiddler to quickly append a title related to it before loosing my train of 
> thoughts. 
>
> @Mohamed yes the idea is that the menu should be extendable by adding a 
> tagged tiddler, with the actions that it should invoke. So you could add a 
> menu item with an action to add titles to the related-to field.
>
> > I think you are making an Smart Editor!
> @Mohammad hmm. I like that term. If not a smart editor, then I at least 
> think we have the opportunity to provide tools to make the editing 
> experience smarter and more intuitive. 
>
> The concept of a menu invoked by / or a similar shortcut is rather 
> commonplace, so the UX should be familiar to most.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

"I never looked back abandoning Windows and I think the same for 
Tiddlywiki"  - hmm that didn't sound right ! Perhaps I should have written 
"I never looked back migrating to Ubuntu and I think the same for 
Tiddlywiki" :-)

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 08:57:29 UTC+1 Jon Light wrote:

> Yes, the more you put into it the better it gets, it is like a workshop 
> where you can customise your tools according to the job and there is a 
> community to share and discuss the tools they have created. I type this on 
> a "Unix-like" system because after many years working on Windows I realised 
> it's limitations which lie deep within it's design philosophy - I never 
> looked back abandoning Windows and I think the same for Tiddlywiki - *I* 
> am the only limitation which is the way it is supposed to be.
>
> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 09:05:11 UTC+1 bimlas wrote:
>
>> TiddlyWiki is the second most flexible format / tool after plain text, 
>> it’s like a self-contained Unix-like system.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

Yes, the more you put into it the better it gets, it is like a workshop 
where you can customise your tools according to the job and there is a 
community to share and discuss the tools they have created. I type this on 
a "Unix-like" system because after many years working on Windows I realised 
it's limitations which lie deep within it's design philosophy - I never 
looked back abandoning Windows and I think the same for Tiddlywiki - *I* am 
the only limitation which is the way it is supposed to be.

On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 09:05:11 UTC+1 bimlas wrote:

> TiddlyWiki is the second most flexible format / tool after plain text, 
> it’s like a self-contained Unix-like system.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

Sure, use the attached viewtemplate which

1. uses a background color (alert-secondary) change if you do not like it
or remove the class to use plain form
2. show on demand (by default it is hidden, use status parameter of details
macro to change initial status)

NOTE: The hide/show content uses details macro from Shiraz! It is highly
customizable! Customize feel and look! Use any Shiraz classes!

<$macrocall
  $name=details
  label="Node Explorer"
  status=""
  labelClass="alert alert-secondary py-1 my-2"
  srcClass  ="alert border-secondary py-0"
  src=<>
  />


[image: img_180_%pn.gif]


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:34 AM 謝佩琪  wrote:

> Great feature!
> Thank you very much!
>
>
> Is there any way to hide and show the list?
> Because some tiddlers have many links, and it is very long
>
> Thanks!
> Mohammad 在 2021年5月20日 星期四上午11:36:11 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：
>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing
>>> with column templates to see how they work.
>>>
>>> Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of dynamic
>>> table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.
>>>
>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of the
 current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of that
 tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method
 recently implemented in
 Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see
 https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)

 The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection of
 dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to show
 links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
 For details see
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
 You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node
 Explorer on demand!


 *Code and demo*


- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz


 It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.


 If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz


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[tw5] Re: [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

R² et al

Thanks for your considered response and openness. I think I feel very 
similar to you and would still be keen to support others even if I were a 
recipient myself. 

As soon as I posted I realised, I could easily have named another dozen or 
more contributors, but of course this list would always grow. And perhaps 
as a longer term member I know far more names as a result. Some people are 
more productive and proliferate as well, and really we have little or no 
idea as to each persons circumstances. If I were not wanting and had more 
time to give, I would unlikely ask for support.

Also another thing that differs greatly is what people have to offer. Some 
have deep tiddlywiki core knowledge, others Javascript and CSS, some with 
aesthetic design skills. Some are good at explaining, documenting, 
publishing easy solutions and others at framing the questions that everyone 
wants to ask, but could not. Some of our newcomers are so valuable to us by 
teaching us what people find difficult, nd others because they bring 
knowledge of alternatives, competitors or useful approaches and algorithm's.

So I suppose so as to present where I am coming from perhaps I should write 
about my own tiddlywiki and broader skills as they relate to tiddlywiki.

Tones
On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 17:06:11 UTC+10 R² wrote:

> Hi Tones,
>
> Thanks for raising this major question. As most non-developers, despite 
> being an active user, I am mostly a passive bystander as far as the 
> community is concerned. I am of course highly aware of how much I rely on 
> developers such as yourself for my favourite tools and feel strongly about 
> finding ways to contribute towards making sure TiddlyWiki can continue to 
> thrive.
>
> I've been thinking about this on and off since Soren released his 
> incredible Grok Tiddlywiki in particular, as Soren has recently released 
> two projects that really resonate with me and has considerably empowered me 
> in my tinkering. I finalized a one-off donation this morning after ticking 
> off another chapter of Grok TW, but the issue is of course that supporting 
> only one developer/documenter, especially as a one-off, feels like an easy 
> cop out, and ideally this would have to be balanced out by something that 
> makes sure that the key developers are also properly taken into account and 
> contributes to some sort of long-term stability and predictability for 
> developers.
>
> Now, who are the key developers? Users like me cannot possibly be expected 
> to be discerning in that matter when deciding how and where to direct their 
> donation. Your top of mind seems to be Jeremy, Mario and Eric, as well as 
> yourself to some extent I imagine. Let me tell me about mine. I'd mention 
> Jeremy, Dave Gifford and Mohammed, but simply because those are names that 
> stuck to my mind while lurking around the forum for my own intents and 
> purposes. I would have recognized your icon, though I'd probably have 
> associated it to Dave. There's also a guy with a icon of a wolf that I find 
> pretty neat and some interesting mannerisms, and another one with a flat 
> comics face that seems to be a real regular but I couldn't remember his 
> name without checking. I never really went on the Github page except to 
> star the project. In reality, I have no precise idea who's contributing 
> most and I have a feeling many potential donors wouldn't either. What I 
> have is an uninformed, biased vision of someone who couldn't possibly 
> intelligently support an individual developer other than based on external 
> wow factor alone or random mental shortcuts. 
>
> There are probably many more developers out there, with very different 
> personal situations. Some would benefit greatly from more money at a 
> personal level, while others have high paying jobs and would view this as 
> beer or coffee money. Some, including yourself would actually be able to 
> commit more time to Tiddlywiki or avoid dropping out by having more funds 
> go their way, and these are not necessarily the same as the former group, 
> and perhaps even developers that are completely out of the picture at 
> present. Beyond this counterfactual, there's also the question of the "bang 
> for the buck": a dollar in Iran has more purchasing power that in the US... 
> So many questions that personally have led me to a situation of analysis 
> paralysis regarding Tiddlywiki and yet, here I am, also a long-term monthly 
> donator to Linux Mint. Mint provided me with an easy "set and forget" 
> mechanism to support the community, presenting me with a nice, trustworthy 
> black box to address my money to. It's easy to view this support through 
> the SaaS lens too. I currently pay $5 a month, an amount I decided based 
> both on my modest means and on what Microsoft probably managed to squeeze 
> out of me on average when I was a Windows user. I also pay for my Internet 
> access (a share of €18/2=€9 per month), my phone bill (€5*2=€10

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