[tw5] Filter operators: Official documentation

[Mohammad Rahmani]

I was reading the some filter operator they looks like this

addsuffix Operator
3rd February 2015 at 10:02pm
Filter OperatorsString Operators
input  a selection of
titles 
output the input, but with S added to the end of each title

Examples



How can I realise I should use this filter operator like below:


<$list filter="[[inputlist]addsuffix[mysuffix]]">

How should I understand it needs an input parameter which is different from
input from a previous step?

In my opinion filter operators are an ESSENTIAL part of Tiddlywiki which is
also the most confusing part!

My questions are:

1. DO you have better references for using and working with filters? Please
share links, resources, ...
2. What is your experience using official documentation for filter
operators?
3. How do you recommend to improve these documentations?


Some references to help improve the filter operators documentation

[1]. TW-Scripts
[2]. PowerSearch
[3]. Grok Tiddlywiki
[4]. Tobias Beer Filter References
[5]. S.S draft for restructuring TW documentation
[6]. Tones GitWiki



Best wishes
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Can the tag pills in the sidebar be dragged to rearrange them? I am unable to.

[Suzanne McHale]

Actually, the relevant tiddler 
 says "*Tag pills 
are also draggable*, and are equivalent to simultaneously dragging all of 
the individual tiddlers carrying the tag." So I am a bit confused there!

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:46:17 AM UTC+10 Suzanne McHale wrote:

> It was for exporting the tiddlers in a particular order to static HTML - I 
> do this with a filter expression, but being able to reorder the tag pills 
> would enable me to eliminate this in the expression.
>
> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 11:20:49 PM UTC+10 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> No, this won't work because dragging and dropping tiddlers to reorder 
>> them modifies the *list* field of the tiddler tagging them. The tags 
>> don't share a common tagging tiddler, so there's nowhere to store this 
>> information.
>>
>> That said...there definitely are ways you could customize the tag list to 
>> influence the sorting of your tags. If you are still interested, can you 
>> share more about your use case?
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 8:41:28 PM UTC-5 kosmo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I can do this with the titles/entries under each tag pill, but the pills 
>>> themselves won't move in the browser (Firefox or Chrome, latest version of 
>>> each) - I'm not sure if this is a possibility or not? (The Tiddlywiki.com 
>>> information page - https://tiddlywiki.com/#Drag%20and%20Drop -  is not 
>>> clear on this.)
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [ANN] Projectify v0.14.0 is out!

[Michael Wiktowy]

For 2) ... adding empty "todo" "Project" and "SubProject" tiddlers and 
filtering on "[tag[todo]get[tags]enlist-input[]is[missing]tagging[]] 
-[tag[Inbox]]" seems to identify the orphans. There is likely a better way 
though.

/Mike

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 12:46:14 AM UTC-3 Michael Wiktowy wrote:

> Hi Nico,
>
> I like your project and hope to use it for my work to I was stress testing 
> it a bit.
>
> 1) One issue that I found was dragging one project over to another messed 
> them up a bit and you ended up getting Projects tagged with each other 
> which leads to problems and I think breaks the hierarchy that you were 
> intending.
>
> I made some fixes making the assumption that if you drag a Project (or 
> plain todo) over and drop it on another Project, you want it to be a 
> SubProject of that Project and that seems to work out ok. It automatically 
> converts simple todos to SubProject todos but I don't think that is a big 
> deal. Possibly some more complex logic could be added to the 
> project-refile-actions to direct to an alternative filter macros for 
> dragged Projects vs dragged todos but I didn't think that it was worth it.
>
> Attached are two plugin tidders that I changed:
>
> *$:/plugins/nico/projectify/macros/filters:*
> - Adjusting the project-refile-tags macro to make it a SubProject:
>
> \define project-refile-tags()
> todo SubProject [all[]tags[]] -Inbox -Project 
> -[tag[Project]] -[tag[SubProject]] []
> \end
>
> and
> *$:/plugins/nico/projectify/macros/todo-list:*
> - Adjusting the project-refile-actions to not trigger the action-listops 
> when you drag the Project onto itself (from main tiddler in the Projects 
> sidebar or vice versa) i.e. when the currentTiddler doesn't equal the 
> actionTidder
>
> \define project-refile-actions()
> 
> <$list filter="[compare:string:ne]">  
> <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>
> 
> \end
>
> Hopefully you find them useful and they don't break anything else.
>
> 2) Another issue that I see is that if you delete or Archive a Project, 
> all the todos below it are orphaned and don't show up anywhere other than 
> the Filter. I am thinking that the Inbox should show both regular "Inbox" 
> todos and also show todos that are orphaned by bug or misclick so that some 
> easy recovery is possible. I am still working out what filter would show 
> todos tagged with projects that no longer exist.
>
> /Mike
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 8:49:13 AM UTC-3 Nicolas Petton wrote:
>
>> Hi! 
>>
>> Projectify version 0.14.0 is now available! 
>> You can install/upgrade from 
>>
>> https://projectify.wiki 
>>
>> ChangeLog 
>>
>> Features 
>>
>> * New redesigned input for adding todos 
>> * New configuration option for setting the first day of the week in date 
>> pickers 
>> * New buttons for scheduling and setting a priority directly when adding 
>> a todo 
>> * Do not render the form to add todos in archived projects 
>>
>> Improvements 
>>
>> * New filters in dashboard tab for todo priorities 
>> * Documentation improvements WRT customizing Projectify 
>>
>> Fixes 
>>
>> * Prevent creation of todos with empty titles 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>> Nico 
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [IDEA]: Drag and Drop a Bookmark.html Exported from Chrome/Edge/Firefox

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 3:51 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Doing anything in bulk capable of generating a lot of tiddlers would be
> supported by using the method the JSON Mangler uses to generate tiddlers
> from CSV files. pack them into a plugin. Shadow tiddlers are easy to access
> and can be overridden with edits as needed. Non-plugin JSON tiddlers (of
> tiddlers) are less easy to access without additional tools. We also have
> zipping at our disposal but a custom JSON structure to store bookmarks can
> be made more efficient but less reusable (without additional tools)
>

Hi Tones! I have not tested JSON Mangler for importing bookmarks, but there
are some addons for FF and Chrome that lets you export History and
Bookmarks to a JSON file! These files then can be imported to Tiddlywiki!
The cost is installing such addons!




>
> Tones
>
> On Monday, 24 May 2021 at 21:21:28 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:25 PM TiddlyTweeter 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Mohammad & Saq ...
>>> Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 That means one can extract all links in a webpage! For example I am
 visiting aiche.org and if save and add .bookmarks to file name then
 drag and drop into bookmarker!
  Tiddlywiki will extract all links!
 That is a MAGIC ;-)

>>>
>>> Right!
>>>
>>> An issue with The Power of *GENERIC  EXTRACTION *...
>>>
>>> 1 - You could end up with so MANY Tiddlers it becomes a nightmare to
>>> manage! :-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes dragging a webpage is not a good idea!
>>
>>>
>>>so ...
>>>
>>> 2 - I SUGGEST each ".bookmarks" import need a UNIQUE ID adding (tag or
>>> other field unique IDENTIFIER) so you can DELETE them all if needed (JUST
>>> that specific import).
>>>
>>>WHY?
>>>
>>>- In tests with extracting from WikiPedia pages I found out that
>>>you can easily add over 200 "*Link Tiddlers*" to a TW.
>>>
>>>
>>>- In short, with Scale potential one *also* needs Scale Removal
>>>options too! :-) so ...
>>>
>>> 3 - PROVIDE USER with a macro to selectively DELETE Tiddlers created by
>>> (2).
>>>
>>>
>> Right! I use Tiddler Commander the latest!
>> After import, TW shows me a button for further processing I can tag them!
>> Add extra fields:values or delete a bunch of them!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just thoughts!
>>> TT
>>>
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[tw5] Re: [ANN] Projectify v0.14.0 is out!

[Michael Wiktowy]

Hi Nico,

I like your project and hope to use it for my work to I was stress testing 
it a bit.

1) One issue that I found was dragging one project over to another messed 
them up a bit and you ended up getting Projects tagged with each other 
which leads to problems and I think breaks the hierarchy that you were 
intending.

I made some fixes making the assumption that if you drag a Project (or 
plain todo) over and drop it on another Project, you want it to be a 
SubProject of that Project and that seems to work out ok. It automatically 
converts simple todos to SubProject todos but I don't think that is a big 
deal. Possibly some more complex logic could be added to the 
project-refile-actions to direct to an alternative filter macros for 
dragged Projects vs dragged todos but I didn't think that it was worth it.

Attached are two plugin tidders that I changed:

*$:/plugins/nico/projectify/macros/filters:*
- Adjusting the project-refile-tags macro to make it a SubProject:

\define project-refile-tags()
todo SubProject [all[]tags[]] -Inbox -Project 
-[tag[Project]] -[tag[SubProject]] []
\end

and
*$:/plugins/nico/projectify/macros/todo-list:*
- Adjusting the project-refile-actions to not trigger the action-listops 
when you drag the Project onto itself (from main tiddler in the Projects 
sidebar or vice versa) i.e. when the currentTiddler doesn't equal the 
actionTidder

\define project-refile-actions()

<$list filter="[compare:string:ne]">  
<$action-listops $tiddler=<> $tags=<>/>

\end

Hopefully you find them useful and they don't break anything else.

2) Another issue that I see is that if you delete or Archive a Project, all 
the todos below it are orphaned and don't show up anywhere other than the 
Filter. I am thinking that the Inbox should show both regular "Inbox" todos 
and also show todos that are orphaned by bug or misclick so that some easy 
recovery is possible. I am still working out what filter would show todos 
tagged with projects that no longer exist.

/Mike
On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 8:49:13 AM UTC-3 Nicolas Petton wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Projectify version 0.14.0 is now available!
> You can install/upgrade from
>
> https://projectify.wiki
>
> ChangeLog
>
> Features
>
> * New redesigned input for adding todos
> * New configuration option for setting the first day of the week in date 
> pickers
> * New buttons for scheduling and setting a priority directly when adding a 
> todo
> * Do not render the form to add todos in archived projects
>
> Improvements
>
> * New filters in dashboard tab for todo priorities
> * Documentation improvements WRT customizing Projectify
>
> Fixes
>
> * Prevent creation of todos with empty titles
>
> Cheers,
> Nico
>

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$ _plugins_nico_projectify_macros_todo-list.json
Description: application/json


$ _plugins_nico_projectify_macros_filters.json
Description: application/json

Re: [tw5] vis.js Timeline time format

[paulgilbert2000]

Thanks Jan,

ok yes, it uses the standard tiddly wiki format , i also  found a date 
picker that that puts the format as tiddly wiki likes it , problem solved , 
thanks :)
On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:49:14 PM UTC+2 Jan wrote:

> Hi,
> if you are not using the TW custom format for dates you have to set a 
> parameter to define it. 
> And I do not know what the plugin does with blank spaces like in your 
> format. 
>
> Cheers Jan
>
> Am So., 23. Mai 2021 um 23:38 Uhr schrieb paulgilbert2000 <
> mohamed...@hotmail.com>:
>
>>
>> Hi ,
>>
>> i am starting to learn how to use vis.js  Timeline 
>> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
>>
>> i got everything installed , i am using custom date fields instead of 
>> Created/modified 
>>
>> i am struggling with the date format i should be using in the customer 
>> fields, does any one know the correct format to be used ?
>>
>> I am using -MM-DD hh:mm
>>
>> but none of the values i am putting are interpreted correctly on the 
>> visual time line
>>
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[tw5] Design trick discover classes and CSS in use?

[TW Tones]

Folks,

Many of you may know about using the Inspect in your browser development 
tools to discover css and other details while designing a wiki. 

I just discovered that Using the Core addon-plugin Internals allows you to 
preview the html generated inside a tiddler and this allows you to see and 
extract similar information for a given tiddlers content.

It makes me think what if we provide some alternate tools to do the same 
thing so we can see other elements of the whole page in rendered html as 
insight. Not forcing people into inspect for such analysis would be helpful 
to less experienced users. TiddlyWikis dynamic behaviours and multiple 
stylesheets and plugins can make this quite complex so the more tools we 
have the better.


   - What do you think?
   - Could you make something?

It seems to me TiddlyWiki is capable of being its own "Software development 
kit", and it would be useful if we can provision a few more tools so people 
can stay within tiddlywiki. While largely self documenting the complexity 
in the rendering of the final result suggest a little more support there 
will help.

Regards
Tones

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Re: [tw5] Re: [IDEA]: Drag and Drop a Bookmark.html Exported from Chrome/Edge/Firefox

[TW Tones]

Folks,

Doing anything in bulk capable of generating a lot of tiddlers would be 
supported by using the method the JSON Mangler uses to generate tiddlers 
from CSV files. pack them into a plugin. Shadow tiddlers are easy to access 
and can be overridden with edits as needed. Non-plugin JSON tiddlers (of 
tiddlers) are less easy to access without additional tools. We also have 
zipping at our disposal but a custom JSON structure to store bookmarks can 
be made more efficient but less reusable (without additional tools)

Tones  

On Monday, 24 May 2021 at 21:21:28 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:

> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:25 PM TiddlyTweeter  
> wrote:
>
>> Ciao Mohammad & Saq ...
>> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> That means one can extract all links in a webpage! For example I am 
>>> visiting aiche.org and if save and add .bookmarks to file name then 
>>> drag and drop into bookmarker!
>>>  Tiddlywiki will extract all links!
>>> That is a MAGIC ;-) 
>>>
>>
>> Right!
>>
>> An issue with The Power of *GENERIC  EXTRACTION *...
>>
>> 1 - You could end up with so MANY Tiddlers it becomes a nightmare to 
>> manage! :-) 
>>
>
>
> Yes dragging a webpage is not a good idea!
>
>>
>>so ...
>>
>> 2 - I SUGGEST each ".bookmarks" import need a UNIQUE ID adding (tag or 
>> other field unique IDENTIFIER) so you can DELETE them all if needed (JUST 
>> that specific import).
>>
>>WHY? 
>>
>>- In tests with extracting from WikiPedia pages I found out that 
>>you can easily add over 200 "*Link Tiddlers*" to a TW. 
>>
>>
>>- In short, with Scale potential one *also* needs Scale Removal 
>>options too! :-) so ...
>>
>> 3 - PROVIDE USER with a macro to selectively DELETE Tiddlers created by 
>> (2).
>>
>>
> Right! I use Tiddler Commander the latest!
> After import, TW shows me a button for further processing I can tag them! 
> Add extra fields:values or delete a bunch of them!
>
>  
>
>> Just thoughts!
>> TT
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Wiki Spaced Repetition Plugin

[James Anderson]

Also Thanks to  Saq for all the help answering my questions :)

On Monday, 24 May 2021 at 23:06:15 UTC+1 James Anderson wrote:

> This is my, first pass, attempt at providing a very basic Anki/Super Memo 
> like functionality in Tiddlywiki. From a quick search It seems a few people 
> have had similar ideas recently :)
>
> https://github.com/welford/twsr
> http://welford.github.io/kanji.html <- basic example
>
> Setup is pretty simple. Tag a tiddler with "$:/tags/twsr" and any other 
> tags that match subjects you want to study. That tiddler will then show a 
> interface for you to be able to review/add/grade "cards" that match the 
> tags you have supplied.
>
> In the example linked to above, i've tagged the example tiddler with 一画, 
> 二画, 三画, 四画 & 五画 (1 stroke, 2 strokes, ...5 strokes in english) so any 
> Japanese characters  matching these number of stokes are possible 
> candidates for revision in this tiddler. They will not be added however 
> unless you click the cog icon and select +1,+5,+10 which will  the selected 
> number of cards to the scheduler.
>
> lastly, you can add a <$question>... segment to a tiddler 
> which will be hidden when viewing the tiddler normally, but when appearing 
> in a scheduled card within a twsr tiddler will be shown instead of the main 
> contents. When the user clicks "show answer" the main contents will be 
> displayed. If there is no question segment the main contents will be 
> displayed by default.
>
>
> [image: 無題.png]
>
>
> Thanks!
> James
>

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[tw5] Tiddly Wiki Spaced Repetition Plugin

[James Anderson]

This is my, first pass, attempt at providing a very basic Anki/Super Memo 
like functionality in Tiddlywiki. From a quick search It seems a few people 
have had similar ideas recently :)

https://github.com/welford/twsr
http://welford.github.io/kanji.html <- basic example

Setup is pretty simple. Tag a tiddler with "$:/tags/twsr" and any other 
tags that match subjects you want to study. That tiddler will then show a 
interface for you to be able to review/add/grade "cards" that match the 
tags you have supplied.

In the example linked to above, i've tagged the example tiddler with 一画, 
二画, 三画, 四画 & 五画 (1 stroke, 2 strokes, ...5 strokes in english) so any 
Japanese characters  matching these number of stokes are possible 
candidates for revision in this tiddler. They will not be added however 
unless you click the cog icon and select +1,+5,+10 which will  the selected 
number of cards to the scheduler.

lastly, you can add a <$question>... segment to a tiddler which 
will be hidden when viewing the tiddler normally, but when appearing in a 
scheduled card within a twsr tiddler will be shown instead of the main 
contents. When the user clicks "show answer" the main contents will be 
displayed. If there is no question segment the main contents will be 
displayed by default.


[image: 無題.png]


Thanks!
James

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Re: [tw5] vis.js Timeline time format

[Jan Johannpeter]

Hi,
if you are not using the TW custom format for dates you have to set a
parameter to define it.
And I do not know what the plugin does with blank spaces like in your
format.

Cheers Jan

Am So., 23. Mai 2021 um 23:38 Uhr schrieb paulgilbert2000 <
mohamedmaghr...@hotmail.com>:

>
> Hi ,
>
> i am starting to learn how to use vis.js  Timeline
> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
>
> i got everything installed , i am using custom date fields instead of
> Created/modified
>
> i am struggling with the date format i should be using in the customer
> fields, does any one know the correct format to be used ?
>
> I am using -MM-DD hh:mm
>
> but none of the values i am putting are interpreted correctly on the
> visual time line
>
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[tw5] Re: Long Delay Saving with GitHub Saver

[Dan Hoffman]

Thank you, PMario. Your explanations were REALLY helpful! I will re-enter 
the saver settings and go from there.  

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 10:07:16 PM UTC-10 PMario wrote:

> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 11:38:43 PM UTC+2 dlh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I think I've started answering my own question by comparing my TW 
>> settings to other TWs on GitHub. By removing all of the information I had 
>> entered under ControlPanel -> Saving -> GitHub Saver, 
>>
>
> If you removed all those settings, It will _not_ save anything! So 
> make sure that your wiki still saves. Otherwise you may loose content.
>  
>
>> in essence defaulting to "Save changes automatically", the long delay has 
>> disappeared, which is great.
>>
>
> Autosave is the _only_ setting that should be "unchecked" BUT you need to 
> save your changes from time to time manually. ... As soon as you close the 
> tab, there is a "unsaved content warning". .. If you ignore this warning 
> you will loose content. ... 
>
> Depending on your internet connection it may need several seconds until 
> the wiki is saved to GitHub. Especially if your wiki grows in size. 
>  
>
>> My question now is this: What is the purpose of GitHub Saver (i.e., under 
>> what circumstances would one need to enter that information)?
>>
>
> As I wrote. The saver settings are essential. It will _not_ save anything 
> if you remove this info!!
>
> -mario
>

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[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

[TiddlyTweeter]

TiddlyWiki è un sistema magico per ritardare la morte. 
Se fossi dio, brucerei il suo logo su ogni hacker.

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[tw5] Re: [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Qualcuno capirà come resuscitare i miei documenti tra trent'anni?

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Templates?

[Darth Mole]

First of all, thank you both very, very, very much! Shortly after I posted 
my original message I found some references to what I was trying to find 
but this community is great. You both responded with answers despite my 
lack of finding them on my own. Again thank you!

As for the solution:

*Mat*, yours was the closest as far as concept, and I was able to make it 
work as you described (thank you!), however it isn't exactly what I was 
looking for. If the data (the template code) was automatically added to the 
tiddler after saving, and then allowed me to fill out the 
information/answer the questions/etc afterwards then it would have been 
perfect. In this case it only creates a reference to static data, which can 
also be helpful and that I may use.

Instead of a filter is there a way to do an "insert" or something similar 
where it happens once on the initial save and then inserts the 
template/data so that the info can be filled out when it is next edited?

*Soren*, I was also able to get your suggestion working (thank you!) and 
was able to create a solution for my needs. Though I would prefer an 
automatic insert based on the tag I add (just based on my current workflow) 
having a tab with a list of buttons that call the different templates that 
I have prepared will also work. Thank you very much!

Again thank you both for your replies and help!


On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 10:26:22 AM UTC-4 Mat wrote:

> Hi iamdar... I'd approach it like so:
>
> Create a tiddler that contains the things you want. Tag it with 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate
>
> Surround the content with a "conditional listwidget" i.e something that 
> recognized some unique characteristic for e.g "character" or "town" etc. 
> The simplest might be to tag all such tiddlers with that tag. I.e surroudn 
> the template code with:
>
> <$list filter="""[all[current]tag[Character]]""">
> (the template code)
> 
>
> Then to have it apply to a tiddler, you just tag that tiddler Character. 
> In viewmode, you'll then see the template which can have e.g SelectWidgets 
> and stuff.
>
> Note that in the code, you use <> to refer to the tiddler 
> that the template is used in. (That [all[current]...] could actually be 
> written [all] but it is a special case for the all[] 
> operator)
>
> BTW, if this really IS what you're after, then the term is "conditional 
> templates" (...even if I'm not sure it is used in the docs, but it ought to 
> be)
>
> <:-)
>
> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:19:29 AM UTC+2 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I apologize in advance, I feel like I'm being dense in not being able to 
>> find the answer to my question. I think I may be overthinking it/using the 
>> wrong terminology in my searches. 
>>
>> What I'm curious about is if there is a way to create multiple Tiddler 
>> Templates so that it will prepopulate a list of questions/content when 
>> selected. I'm trying to use TiddlyRoam as an open source alternative to 
>> Obsidian, which is a self-hosted alternative to Roam Research.
>>
>> I want to use TiddlyRoam as world building software (I already use the 
>> base TiddlyWiki) and want to try and have prebuilt "templates" for Tiddler 
>> topics such as "Character" or "Town" or "Country" or "Group (IE: guild, 
>> venture, etc.)" where the base questions/information are already there for 
>> me just to answer/fill-out.
>>
>> I thought about Content Types being the answer, but again I think I'm 
>> just confusing myself and I don't even know if I can do it.
>>
>> Thank you in advance and again my apologies!
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] tw pub viewer - library

[Pit.W.]

Dear Xavier,

this saved me a lifetime of futile pondering.

Thanks a lot, much appreciated!

Your

Pit.W

Am 24.05.2021 um 16:42 schrieb Xavier Cazin:

Hi Pit.W,

In order to read any ePubs with the TWPUB viewer, you have to go 
through 3 main steps:


 1. Convert your ePubs to the TWPUB format. This format is very close
to the usual TiddlyWiki plugin format.
 2. Load the twpub-tools and dynannotate plugins into your Tiddlywiki
 3. Load the converted TWPUB plugins into your TiddlyWiki

Step 1 can currently only be processed through the command line with 
the latest Node JS installed (as described here: 
https://github.com/TWPUB/TWPUB-Tools#setup 
).


Once you've got your ePUBs converted into TWPUB files, step 3 can be 
achieved through drag and drop on your wiki if the plugin library 
isn't available. Plugins for step 2 are also draggable from 
https://twpub-tools.org/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FPlugins 
.


Cheers,
-- Xavier.


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 2:54 PM Pit.W. > wrote:



I am testing the twpub viewer (which looks like it is
groundbreaking) as
a downloaded stand-alone-wiki.


In my environment (windows 10, Firefox)

- The library is not accessible from the stand-alone-file
- An epub-file imported by drag-and-drop does not appear in the
repository of the file.

Is this behaviour desired, or a consequence of a (my) flawed system
configuration.


Help appreciated


Pit.W


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Re: [tw5] tw pub viewer - library

[Xavier Cazin]

Hi Pit.W,

In order to read any ePubs with the TWPUB viewer, you have to go through 3
main steps:

   1. Convert your ePubs to the TWPUB format. This format is very close to
   the usual TiddlyWiki plugin format.
   2. Load the twpub-tools and dynannotate plugins into your Tiddlywiki
   3. Load the converted TWPUB plugins into your TiddlyWiki

Step 1 can currently only be processed through the command line with the
latest Node JS installed (as described here:
https://github.com/TWPUB/TWPUB-Tools#setup).

Once you've got your ePUBs converted into TWPUB files, step 3 can be
achieved through drag and drop on your wiki if the plugin library isn't
available. Plugins for step 2 are also draggable from
https://twpub-tools.org/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FPlugins.

Cheers,
-- Xavier.


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 2:54 PM Pit.W.  wrote:

>
> I am testing the twpub viewer (which looks like it is groundbreaking) as
> a downloaded stand-alone-wiki.
>
>
> In my environment (windows 10, Firefox)
>
> - The library is not accessible from the stand-alone-file
> - An epub-file imported by drag-and-drop does not appear in the
> repository of the file.
>
> Is this behaviour desired, or a consequence of a (my) flawed system
> configuration.
>
>
> Help appreciated
>
>
> Pit.W
>
>
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[tw5] tw pub viewer - library

[Pit.W.]

I am testing the twpub viewer (which looks like it is groundbreaking) as 
a downloaded stand-alone-wiki.



In my environment (windows 10, Firefox)

- The library is not accessible from the stand-alone-file
- An epub-file imported by drag-and-drop does not appear in the 
repository of the file.


Is this behaviour desired, or a consequence of a (my) flawed system 
configuration.



Help appreciated


Pit.W


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Re: [tw5] Re: [IDEA]: Drag and Drop a Bookmark.html Exported from Chrome/Edge/Firefox

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:25 PM TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Ciao Mohammad & Saq ...
> Mohammad wrote:
>
>> That means one can extract all links in a webpage! For example I am
>> visiting aiche.org and if save and add .bookmarks to file name then drag
>> and drop into bookmarker!
>>  Tiddlywiki will extract all links!
>> That is a MAGIC ;-)
>>
>
> Right!
>
> An issue with The Power of *GENERIC  EXTRACTION *...
>
> 1 - You could end up with so MANY Tiddlers it becomes a nightmare to
> manage! :-)
>


Yes dragging a webpage is not a good idea!

>
>so ...
>
> 2 - I SUGGEST each ".bookmarks" import need a UNIQUE ID adding (tag or
> other field unique IDENTIFIER) so you can DELETE them all if needed (JUST
> that specific import).
>
>WHY?
>
>- In tests with extracting from WikiPedia pages I found out that
>you can easily add over 200 "*Link Tiddlers*" to a TW.
>
>
>- In short, with Scale potential one *also* needs Scale Removal
>options too! :-) so ...
>
> 3 - PROVIDE USER with a macro to selectively DELETE Tiddlers created by
> (2).
>
>
Right! I use Tiddler Commander the latest!
After import, TW shows me a button for further processing I can tag them!
Add extra fields:values or delete a bunch of them!



> Just thoughts!
> TT
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[tw5] Re: First edition of Grok TiddlyWiki (TW textbook) is live

[TiddlyTweeter]

It is interesting that "GROK " was 
first coined by Robert Heinlein in *"Stranger in a Strange Land", *about an 
alien trying to make sense of Life on Earth.
Actually Heinlein was ultimately referring to Exodus 2:22 
  
(“I have become a foreigner in a foreign land.”) 

Just a comment :-).
TT

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[tw5] TW on Android - open external files

[David Shaw]

I'm trying to set up a TW to help keep track of my e-book collection. My
problem arises when I try to transfer it to my Android device, which is
where I do most of my reading.

If I use my file manager to navigate to the file I want to open, I am given
a choice of e-book readers to open it with (plus droidscript, for some
reason) but when I try to open the file from my TW using Tiddloid, I am
offered only one of my e-readers plus Wikipedia. Using Chrome, I get a
'file does not exist' error and with Firefox I just get a blank page.

Can anyone explain and, perhaps, offer a solution as to how I can use TW
and still have access to all my e-readers?

Many thanks,
David Shaw

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[tw5] Re: First edition of Grok TiddlyWiki (TW textbook) is live

[TiddlyTweeter]

Soren,

Small footnote. 

It might be worth mentioning in a note that GROK 
, has meanings related to COTTON-ON 
.

Just a fun comment!
TT 

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[tw5] Re: [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:

> TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> USB is solid state storage. It is finite. Its longevity is not good if 
>> you want something working in 100 years or even 15.
>>
>> Just FYI, for photographs of the art of Angela Weyersberg, I will burn 
>> Blu-ray "M-Disks" that have a life of (claimed) of up to 1000 years.  
>> Whether any internet 2021 browser in 3021 would work is a moot point. :-) 
>> PRINTING them out too would be advisable :-).
>>
>  

> My experience with disks ended with writable DVDs. I don't know if Blue 
> ray was better, but I found they often had many, many errors. Often a disk 
> would be unreadable by other DVD players. The moveable heads in the 
> players/writers would easily go out of adjustment.
>

True! I constantly watch movies for my work. I get through about 3 cheap 
computer DVD players a year.
The ones you plug into a TV, rather than computer, are slightly more 
robust. About 1 every two years needs replacing.
 

> ... I suspect a stick kept in a cool, dry place wrapped in foil or some 
> other Faraday cage should survive well. Take them out every decade and 
> re-record to a new stick.
>

If ONLY your relatives will have your exquisite *Faraday Appreciation! *:-) 

Re your dad's book. Catch-22. If no one takes it out, they throw it out 
> because it is irrelevant. If people do check it out, then the book becomes 
> lost or too ratty.
>

RIGHT. But an issue that is orthogonal to digital encode. 
The issue with PHYSICAL STUFF is it can get "lost" or "destroyed" or 
"uncatalogued" -- BUT it is a quite different issue in the sense the OBJECT 
is *incarnate already*. 

My point in the OP was really between the fragility of stuff ON A MACHINE 
v. MATERIAL EXISTENCE. 
IMO stuff "on to machine" is far more fragile than many of us *Grok*.

Anyway your comments were clarifying. Tx!
Best wishes, TT

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[tw5] Re: Long Delay Saving with GitHub Saver

[PMario]

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 11:38:43 PM UTC+2 dlh...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think I've started answering my own question by comparing my TW settings 
> to other TWs on GitHub. By removing all of the information I had entered 
> under ControlPanel -> Saving -> GitHub Saver, 
>

If you removed all those settings, It will _not_ save anything! So make 
sure that your wiki still saves. Otherwise you may loose content.
 

> in essence defaulting to "Save changes automatically", the long delay has 
> disappeared, which is great.
>

Autosave is the _only_ setting that should be "unchecked" BUT you need to 
save your changes from time to time manually. ... As soon as you close the 
tab, there is a "unsaved content warning". .. If you ignore this warning 
you will loose content. ... 

Depending on your internet connection it may need several seconds until the 
wiki is saved to GitHub. Especially if your wiki grows in size. 
 

> My question now is this: What is the purpose of GitHub Saver (i.e., under 
> what circumstances would one need to enter that information)?
>

As I wrote. The saver settings are essential. It will _not_ save anything 
if you remove this info!!

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: [IDEA]: Drag and Drop a Bookmark.html Exported from Chrome/Edge/Firefox

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mohammad wrote:

>  Interesting! That means one can extract all links in a webpage! 
>

Right and MORE.

For example it could be a way to import an entire EMAIL ADDRESS BOOK into 
TW.

All that is needed is the input file contains  links of them.

*There is a LOT of potential in the approach I think!*

Best wishes
TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: [IDEA]: Drag and Drop a Bookmark.html Exported from Chrome/Edge/Firefox

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad & Saq ...
Mohammad wrote:

> That means one can extract all links in a webpage! For example I am 
> visiting aiche.org and if save and add .bookmarks to file name then drag 
> and drop into bookmarker!
>  Tiddlywiki will extract all links!
> That is a MAGIC ;-) 
>

Right!

An issue with The Power of *GENERIC  EXTRACTION *...

1 - You could end up with so MANY Tiddlers it becomes a nightmare to 
manage! :-) 

   so ...

2 - I SUGGEST each ".bookmarks" import need a UNIQUE ID adding (tag or 
other field unique IDENTIFIER) so you can DELETE them all if needed (JUST 
that specific import).

   WHY? 

   - In tests with extracting from WikiPedia pages I found out that you 
   can easily add over 200 "*Link Tiddlers*" to a TW. 


   - In short, with Scale potential one *also* needs Scale Removal 
   options too! :-) so ...

3 - PROVIDE USER with a macro to selectively DELETE Tiddlers created by (2).

Just thoughts!
TT

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[tw5] Re: What's not good with many viewtemplates?

[PMario]

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 7:13:04 AM UTC+2 Mat wrote:

@pmario - Haha! Thanks for taking the time with screenshots etc which of 
> course also teaches me (and others) how to use that tool. I'm assuming that 
> the time is measured from the back of the blue and that "double height" 
> means "double time", right?
>

It's the DOM structure that we see here. So every layer shows a dom element 
and its child elements. The higher the "bar", the more DOM elements need to 
be handled.  

Since the TW core has to "calculate" which elements have to be redrawn, it 
also show a little bit of the "complexity" and the "connections" between 
the elements. ... BUT it's not directly related to the time that is needed. 

But what can be seen in the first image is, that the sidebar calculates 
more more elements as actually shown on the screen. ... 
 

> But what does it mean that the, say, search field is slower than 
> everything else?
>

I think I didn't say that. I only wanted to explain some "landmarks", so 
you can connect the images to the rendered page. I didn't want to say, that 
it is slow. ... It probably isn't, since it's only 1 element with several 
child's. So looping through them should be reasonably fast.  

Is the whole page not useable before the search bar is fully loaded? I.e is 
*all 
> *frozen?
>

As I wrote. The map only shows the dom structure and has no direct relation 
to the time needed. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: What's not good with many viewtemplates?

[PMario]

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 12:13:30 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> That's some really cool visualization, nicely done.
>

Yea, MS Edge has it built into the dev-tools. 
-m

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