Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[PMario]

Have a look at the new filters: 
https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/#Streams%200.2%20improvements%2FFilters  
the last one. 

-m

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 5:13:07 AM UTC+2 fred@gmail.com wrote:

> @saq; certainly.
> When dragging a node from one root tiddler to another, it retains the 
> naming convention of previous tiddler.
> I believe this is working as intended. The parent and stream-list fields 
> are adjusted correctly.
>
> In my case, I sometimes wish to export and re-import a set of root 
> tiddlers and their stream nodes.
> At that point, I can't just bulk select (check) all tiddlers (including 
> nodes) that start with the same title; a portion of those may actually now 
> belong to different root tiddlers (thus I don't want to import them). 
> Similarly, I can miss ones I should include because, whilst they are valid 
> node tiddlers, their name is not associated with what I am looking for in 
> the tiddler import dialog.
>
> So I need to more cleverly bulk export one or more root tiddlers with 
> their complete node hierarchy, regardless of title names, quite simply. I 
> don't believe this to be particularly challenging to be honest, so whenever 
> I need to do this, I should be able to do it smartly. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 16:47, Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>
>> @Fred could you please elaborate on what this side effect is that you 
>> mention?
>>
>> I my workflow, I treat them as sub-tiddlers really. You could say I 
>>> replaced larger tiddlers with multiple headings with much smaller streams 
>>> nodes (but not single line ones); main advantage is I can move nodes 
>>> around, indent them, etc... and drag them from one tiddler to another 
>>> (although I have recently noted this has an unfortunate side effect).
>>
>>
>> Thank you. 
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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Frédéric Demers]

@saq; certainly.
When dragging a node from one root tiddler to another, it retains the
naming convention of previous tiddler.
I believe this is working as intended. The parent and stream-list fields
are adjusted correctly.

In my case, I sometimes wish to export and re-import a set of root tiddlers
and their stream nodes.
At that point, I can't just bulk select (check) all tiddlers (including
nodes) that start with the same title; a portion of those may actually now
belong to different root tiddlers (thus I don't want to import them).
Similarly, I can miss ones I should include because, whilst they are valid
node tiddlers, their name is not associated with what I am looking for in
the tiddler import dialog.

So I need to more cleverly bulk export one or more root tiddlers with their
complete node hierarchy, regardless of title names, quite simply. I don't
believe this to be particularly challenging to be honest, so whenever I
need to do this, I should be able to do it smartly.

Cheers,

On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 16:47, Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> @Fred could you please elaborate on what this side effect is that you
> mention?
>
> I my workflow, I treat them as sub-tiddlers really. You could say I
>> replaced larger tiddlers with multiple headings with much smaller streams
>> nodes (but not single line ones); main advantage is I can move nodes
>> around, indent them, etc... and drag them from one tiddler to another
>> (although I have recently noted this has an unfortunate side effect).
>
>
> Thank you.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki SO cool ...

[Charlie Veniot]

That looks really good.  Thanks for sharing !

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 8:45:58 PM UTC-3 Télumire wrote:

> I can share mine : https://curatedvideos.github.io/ 
> This wiki, as the name suggests, curates videos and channels from high 
> quality content creators.
>
> Le ven. 25 juin 2021 à 23:47, TW Tones  a écrit :
>
>> TT,
>>
>> I*ts sad we can't easily find wikis "in the wild." I don't actually know 
>> what has been made!*
>>
>> I too would like to see more in the wild however for myself a lot of my 
>> wikis are for personal organisation, and many are in different states of 
>> completion. They are a work in progress, the privacy or perfectionism 
>> desires stop them being visible to the world. I presently tend to share 
>> components rather than full wikis. 
>>
>> One of my key realisations with tiddlywiki is it can be used as 
>> continuous improvement development platform, it responds to the way it 
>> grows, its past and the futures I imagine. Tiddlywiki is revolutionary and 
>> evolutionary.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 18:51:36 UTC+10 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao cj.v ...
>>>
>>> Thanks for the detailed reply.
>>> I basically agree with most everything you wrote.
>>>
>>> One of the slightly odd things with TiddlyWiki is we got masses of great 
>>> wikis about doing code in TiddlyWiki easily available.
>>> BUT very few listed wikis of end-product applications.
>>> That is likely much to do with fact TW design eschews being tracked by 
>>> Google et al. 
>>> Its sad we can't easily find wikis "in the wild." I don't actually know 
>>> what has been made!
>>> That is an impediment to being able to do a decent SHOWCASE of variant 
>>> uses and applications suited to specific end purposes (other than coding TW 
>>> for the pleasure of it) :-(
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 23 June 2021 at 16:47:43 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Although I'm no fan of social media (Twitter, Instagram, Tik Tok, etc. 
 etc.), my answer would be YouTube, Blogs and all social media options.

 Via titles that equal use cases, and not titles about the product 
 (well, with loads of metadata some somebody looking for TiddlyWiki, or TW, 
 can find these social media jewels.)

 So draw folk to the videos and such via problems that need to be 
 solved, or approaches to doing certain things.

 For example, thinking of the discussion about notetaking and notemaking.

 Instead of a social media something like "Notetaking with TiddlyWiki", 
 draw folk in with something like "Agile Notetaking" (well, some title that 
 draws folk, in the spirit of whatever draws people to viral videos.)

 So flood the media with marketing not of the product itself, but of the 
 full breadth and depth of solutions that coincidentally are handled with 
 TiddlyWiki align with whatever plugins when they apply.

 As another example, my Le P'tit Aurèle 
  project.  If I were to (when the 
 project is ready) blitz social media with stuff related to that project, 
 it 
 would all be with titles that fall under an umbrella of "Constructing 
 Comprehensive yet User-Friendly Multilingual Dictionaries"  (well, 
 something sexier that can go "viral").  And every "post" to whatever 
 social 
 media would have a "by the way, this was built with TiddlyWiki."

 If there are a ridiculous number of videos out there on how to do 
 real-world good stuff and they all of the things done happen to be done 
 with TiddlyWiki, I think that would grab some attention.

 Something like that ...




 On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 6:15 AM TiddlyTweeter  
 wrote:

> Ciao cj.v...
>
> Yeah. In the practicalities of dealing with code I think it is easy to 
> forget/set-aside certain things,
>
> The FREEDOM TW brings to dealing with information design and use is 
> not shouted enough.
>
> I'd love if the tool were more widely used. 
> I'm thinking a bit here out loud.
>
> How can we communicate better to potential end users its fundamental 
> benefits?
>
> Best wishes
> TT
> On Wednesday, 23 June 2021 at 03:47:15 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That would be a perfect theme song for TiddlyWiki.  Freedom for sure !
>>
>> I find Jon Batiste one of the coolest guys.  Wonderfully talented and 
>> seems like a genuinely awesome human being.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:04:50 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> https://youtu.be/3YHVC1DcHmo
>>>
>>> Oh yeah
>>> TT
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki SO cool ...

[John D]

I can share mine : https://curatedvideos.github.io/
This wiki, as the name suggests, curates videos and channels from high
quality content creators.

Le ven. 25 juin 2021 à 23:47, TW Tones  a écrit :

> TT,
>
> I*ts sad we can't easily find wikis "in the wild." I don't actually know
> what has been made!*
>
> I too would like to see more in the wild however for myself a lot of my
> wikis are for personal organisation, and many are in different states of
> completion. They are a work in progress, the privacy or perfectionism
> desires stop them being visible to the world. I presently tend to share
> components rather than full wikis.
>
> One of my key realisations with tiddlywiki is it can be used as continuous
> improvement development platform, it responds to the way it grows, its past
> and the futures I imagine. Tiddlywiki is revolutionary and evolutionary.
>
> Tones
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 18:51:36 UTC+10 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao cj.v ...
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed reply.
>> I basically agree with most everything you wrote.
>>
>> One of the slightly odd things with TiddlyWiki is we got masses of great
>> wikis about doing code in TiddlyWiki easily available.
>> BUT very few listed wikis of end-product applications.
>> That is likely much to do with fact TW design eschews being tracked by
>> Google et al.
>> Its sad we can't easily find wikis "in the wild." I don't actually know
>> what has been made!
>> That is an impediment to being able to do a decent SHOWCASE of variant
>> uses and applications suited to specific end purposes (other than coding TW
>> for the pleasure of it) :-(
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Wednesday, 23 June 2021 at 16:47:43 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Although I'm no fan of social media (Twitter, Instagram, Tik Tok, etc.
>>> etc.), my answer would be YouTube, Blogs and all social media options.
>>>
>>> Via titles that equal use cases, and not titles about the product (well,
>>> with loads of metadata some somebody looking for TiddlyWiki, or TW, can
>>> find these social media jewels.)
>>>
>>> So draw folk to the videos and such via problems that need to be solved,
>>> or approaches to doing certain things.
>>>
>>> For example, thinking of the discussion about notetaking and notemaking.
>>>
>>> Instead of a social media something like "Notetaking with TiddlyWiki",
>>> draw folk in with something like "Agile Notetaking" (well, some title that
>>> draws folk, in the spirit of whatever draws people to viral videos.)
>>>
>>> So flood the media with marketing not of the product itself, but of the
>>> full breadth and depth of solutions that coincidentally are handled with
>>> TiddlyWiki align with whatever plugins when they apply.
>>>
>>> As another example, my Le P'tit Aurèle
>>>  project.  If I were to (when the
>>> project is ready) blitz social media with stuff related to that project, it
>>> would all be with titles that fall under an umbrella of "Constructing
>>> Comprehensive yet User-Friendly Multilingual Dictionaries"  (well,
>>> something sexier that can go "viral").  And every "post" to whatever social
>>> media would have a "by the way, this was built with TiddlyWiki."
>>>
>>> If there are a ridiculous number of videos out there on how to do
>>> real-world good stuff and they all of the things done happen to be done
>>> with TiddlyWiki, I think that would grab some attention.
>>>
>>> Something like that ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 6:15 AM TiddlyTweeter 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ciao cj.v...

 Yeah. In the practicalities of dealing with code I think it is easy to
 forget/set-aside certain things,

 The FREEDOM TW brings to dealing with information design and use is not
 shouted enough.

 I'd love if the tool were more widely used.
 I'm thinking a bit here out loud.

 How can we communicate better to potential end users its fundamental
 benefits?

 Best wishes
 TT
 On Wednesday, 23 June 2021 at 03:47:15 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> That would be a perfect theme song for TiddlyWiki.  Freedom for sure !
>
> I find Jon Batiste one of the coolest guys.  Wonderfully talented and
> seems like a genuinely awesome human being.
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:04:50 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> https://youtu.be/3YHVC1DcHmo
>>
>> Oh yeah
>> TT
>>
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[tw5] Re: TW as static site generator in AWS lambda

[TW Tones]

Mohammad,

I was looking at AWS recently, but also thought I would make use of local 
storage and changes backup to make the hosted tiddlywiki not appear static.

I discovered also through w3schools.com they now have "spaces", where you 
can also host wikis for free, 
the difference being the URL to your space eg; https://tones.w3spaces.com/ 
is only resolved if you are logged in making it ideal for personal spaces.

I have a workflow to commit changes to the wiki that accrue in local 
storage to the index.html all of which I can document in time.

Regards
Tones

On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 05:54:11 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:

> https://twitter.com/philwonski/status/1407419878588440577
>
> https://mydigitalmark.com/easily-build-static-html-sites-from-json-with-aws-lambda-and-tiddlywiki/
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Streams Plugin - Splitting text

[SteveH]

Thank you Saq and Si for your help. Much appreciated.

On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 10:47:21 pm UTC+10 Si wrote:

> Hi hsteve. There are two ways to split text:
>
> 1. If you are editing a node and press enter, the stream will be split at 
> the location of the caret/curser.
> 2. If you are editing a node and press alt+enter, the text will be split 
> at every place there is a new line.
>
> Note that /n/n is a regular expression that represents any new line. It's 
> not something you have to actually add to the text.
>
> On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 12:27:04 UTC+1 SteveH wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A basic question relating to text splitting within a single long text 
>> tiddler.
>>
>> The plugin settings show 
>>
>>- Regular expression used to split text = /n/n
>>- Split text at caret position
>>
>> Inserting /n/n/ or a claret didn't seem to work .  
>>
>> Looking for help here.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> hsteve
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki SO cool ...

[TW Tones]

TT,

I*ts sad we can't easily find wikis "in the wild." I don't actually know 
what has been made!*

I too would like to see more in the wild however for myself a lot of my 
wikis are for personal organisation, and many are in different states of 
completion. They are a work in progress, the privacy or perfectionism 
desires stop them being visible to the world. I presently tend to share 
components rather than full wikis. 

One of my key realisations with tiddlywiki is it can be used as continuous 
improvement development platform, it responds to the way it grows, its past 
and the futures I imagine. Tiddlywiki is revolutionary and evolutionary.

Tones


On Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 18:51:36 UTC+10 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao cj.v ...
>
> Thanks for the detailed reply.
> I basically agree with most everything you wrote.
>
> One of the slightly odd things with TiddlyWiki is we got masses of great 
> wikis about doing code in TiddlyWiki easily available.
> BUT very few listed wikis of end-product applications.
> That is likely much to do with fact TW design eschews being tracked by 
> Google et al. 
> Its sad we can't easily find wikis "in the wild." I don't actually know 
> what has been made!
> That is an impediment to being able to do a decent SHOWCASE of variant 
> uses and applications suited to specific end purposes (other than coding TW 
> for the pleasure of it) :-(
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Wednesday, 23 June 2021 at 16:47:43 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Although I'm no fan of social media (Twitter, Instagram, Tik Tok, etc. 
>> etc.), my answer would be YouTube, Blogs and all social media options.
>>
>> Via titles that equal use cases, and not titles about the product (well, 
>> with loads of metadata some somebody looking for TiddlyWiki, or TW, can 
>> find these social media jewels.)
>>
>> So draw folk to the videos and such via problems that need to be solved, 
>> or approaches to doing certain things.
>>
>> For example, thinking of the discussion about notetaking and notemaking.
>>
>> Instead of a social media something like "Notetaking with TiddlyWiki", 
>> draw folk in with something like "Agile Notetaking" (well, some title that 
>> draws folk, in the spirit of whatever draws people to viral videos.)
>>
>> So flood the media with marketing not of the product itself, but of the 
>> full breadth and depth of solutions that coincidentally are handled with 
>> TiddlyWiki align with whatever plugins when they apply.
>>
>> As another example, my Le P'tit Aurèle 
>>  project.  If I were to (when the 
>> project is ready) blitz social media with stuff related to that project, it 
>> would all be with titles that fall under an umbrella of "Constructing 
>> Comprehensive yet User-Friendly Multilingual Dictionaries"  (well, 
>> something sexier that can go "viral").  And every "post" to whatever social 
>> media would have a "by the way, this was built with TiddlyWiki."
>>
>> If there are a ridiculous number of videos out there on how to do 
>> real-world good stuff and they all of the things done happen to be done 
>> with TiddlyWiki, I think that would grab some attention.
>>
>> Something like that ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 6:15 AM TiddlyTweeter  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao cj.v...
>>>
>>> Yeah. In the practicalities of dealing with code I think it is easy to 
>>> forget/set-aside certain things,
>>>
>>> The FREEDOM TW brings to dealing with information design and use is not 
>>> shouted enough.
>>>
>>> I'd love if the tool were more widely used. 
>>> I'm thinking a bit here out loud.
>>>
>>> How can we communicate better to potential end users its fundamental 
>>> benefits?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>> On Wednesday, 23 June 2021 at 03:47:15 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 That would be a perfect theme song for TiddlyWiki.  Freedom for sure !

 I find Jon Batiste one of the coolest guys.  Wonderfully talented and 
 seems like a genuinely awesome human being.

 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:04:50 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> https://youtu.be/3YHVC1DcHmo
>
> Oh yeah
> TT
>
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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Saq Imtiaz]

@Fred could you please elaborate on what this side effect is that you 
mention?

I my workflow, I treat them as sub-tiddlers really. You could say I 
> replaced larger tiddlers with multiple headings with much smaller streams 
> nodes (but not single line ones); main advantage is I can move nodes 
> around, indent them, etc... and drag them from one tiddler to another 
> (although I have recently noted this has an unfortunate side effect).


Thank you. 

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[tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams

[PMario]

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:57:56 AM UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote:

> That's an interesting UseCase, @mario -along w/ some interesting content, 
> including talk by Don Blair  
> (NB: that farm in Portugal he talks about is mine :-).  


That's funny. And we see again, how small the earth has become :)
 

> ... I guess what i might do to refine this to my prefs is have each talk 
> in the conference with its own "parent" tiddler;  then if i could zero-out 
> that timeline of which you speak at start of each talk, it should then 
> track pretty close to the final video, so long as they don't edit-out any 
> portions of it in post-production.  To achieve perfect alignment, presuming 
> a continuous stream, you might need to tweak these codes after -which would 
> involve a bulk renaming of all related tiddlers i guess. Am just thinking 
> out loud here, w/ benefit of hindsight...
>

That's right. It's probably 1 thing we can learn from the wiki: We need a 
way to create "relative" timestamps. .. I think Eric Shulmans timer-tools 
 may be an option here. 
 

> Anyway, as it stands: this looks to me like a very good solution to that 
> problem in the majority of YouTube videos published, whereby most of them 
> have either no "shownotes" at all, or else notes that serve some 
> promotional purpose(s) that most viewers would MUCH rather see complemented 
> (if not entirely replaced) with a helpful time-coded set of jump-links to 
> whatever section(s) of content they consider to be of interest.
> To that end, Mario, this represents a solid step forward. Thanks for 
> sharing it here!
>

You are welcome!
mario

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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Si]

@walt Glad you found it useful, but you'll see from that thread that most 
of the credit goes to Saq!
On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 11:16:31 UTC+1 ludwa6 wrote:

> @Si : Dude!  I just used your clever little button script to flatten a 
> caffeine-fueled Stream of a couple dozen nodes into a single tiddler to 
> memorialise that epic train of thought :-). 
> Think i'm gonna add this button feature to my Journal tiddler template, to 
> see if this makes that sticky business of daily Journal-writing flow 
> eaasierr, without making such a mess in my Zettelkasten. 
> Thanks for this, mate...  and, 
>
> PS, i'm likewise interested in the idea of using Streams as an incremental 
> reading tool;  AND
>
> PPS: Also +1 the idea of finding some mechanism whereby we could send some 
> monetary tokens of appreciation Saq's way!
>
> /walt
>
>
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 12:01:09 AM UTC+1 Si wrote:
>
>> Hi Walt,
>>
>> SO this is to ask all of you with any experience of Streams plugin: Can 
>>> you relate to the need i am expressing?  Or have you found a good way 
>>> "flatten" your streams, and integrate your Streams content properly into a 
>>> TW instance?  If so, anything you might care to share in terms of workflow 
>>> and/or code would be most appreciated.
>>
>>
>> I don't personally have any need to convert a stream into a bulleted list 
>> within a single tiddler*.* As you note, outliners very useful for agile 
>> note taking, but in my opinion a hierarchical list is not the best way to 
>> *present* a single idea. So in general once I have moved my streams 
>> nodes to their evergreen home, I aspire to convert my notes into more 
>> readable prose. I do this by rearranging the nodes into a flat list, 
>> re-writing as required, and then flattening with a button described here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rEtegfiGYJE/m/L0-euDfWAAAJ
>>
>> In reality I rarely actually get to that stage, and am generally happy to 
>> leave my evergreen notes in "node-form". I don't personally see any benefit 
>> in converting them to a bulleted markdown list, but it depends on what your 
>> use case is?
>>
>> Meanwhile: i too would very much like to know who else is using Streams 
>>> regularly, and in what sort of workflow(s). 
>>> So if you are one, dear reader, please let us know!  
>>
>>
>>  Hi Saq,
>>
>> One of the things I would dearly like to know is how many people are 
>>> actually using Streams on a regular basis, and what their workflow looks 
>>> like. My feeling is its a very small handful and I'll admit that probably 
>>> influences how much time I devote to working on Streams.
>>
>>
>> You may have seen it but I roughly described my workflow here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/gbEHUyX8dc0/m/r1yF5JdXCAAJ
>>
>> For me Streams excels at quickly capturing information that I cannot yet 
>> fit into any main ideas within your knowledge. Being able to re-jig this 
>> captured information is helpful for making sense of it, eventually 
>> integrating them with the main ideas that I want to internalise. In 
>> particular this can help to break through some of the constraints of linear 
>> reading.
>>
>> I aspire to one day build some incremental reading 
>>  tools with 
>> TiddlyWiki, which may partially replace my use of streams, but for now I 
>> have found streams to be the best solution for non-linear reading.
>>
>> On the topic of how many people use it, maybe you could consider creating 
>> a Google Form and linking to it from the download page, asking users if 
>> they would take a second to answer some brief questions?
>>
>> I was also wondering if you had considered setting up a way for users to 
>> donate? Not necessarily to fund development, just to show appreciation for 
>> great free software! I am not currently in a position to contribute much, 
>> but in the future I would certainly be happy to subscribe to a patreon or 
>> whatever.
>>
>> I would add that like Mario I am very happy with the current features of 
>> streams, though I have made the following tweak to the text display for the 
>> breadcrumbs. It's a very minor thing, but in my opinion looks nicer than 
>> just cutting off the title mid-word:
>>
>> <$text text={{{ 
>> [length[]compare:number:lt[40]then] 
>> ~[split[]first[40]join[]trim[]addsuffix[...]] }}}/>
>>
>>  I wonder if you think it should be added when you next update?
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 14:22, ludwa6  wrote:
>>
>>> Picking up where this earlier thread 
>>>  left off, i am 
>>> following Saq's advice 
>>>  
>>> to start another conversation on the more specific question of HOW best to 
>>> use -and perhaps adapt- the Streams plugin, to make TW into a great tool 
>>> for not only "intertwingly" NoteTaking (which it certainly is), but also 
>>> great for agile NoteTaking, as 

[tw5] Re: JavaScript Error Message

[Anna]

Hi Mario,

I use Stroll and TiddlyMap but it didn't come up just after adding one of 
those so I'm not sure if one of them has caused it.

Anna
On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 5:12:26 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:

> Hi Anna,
>
> Can you remember, what was changed when the Error popped up the first time?
>
> Which plugins do you use?
>
> -mario
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[springer]

Hello all,

Based on helpful feedback from Josiah, I further tweaked the masked-tw 
image:

[image: fields-arial.png]

Some considerations shaping this submission: 

keeping filesize down (just under 28K as png w alpha; 14K as flat jpg), 
staying visually "digestible" even at small size (while not overlapping the 
caption-banner), gesturing towards one exciting new feature (opening up of 
fieldname options). If our collective impulse is to celebrate 
drag-and-drop, then I'd offer up the "minimal oval" design instead, which 
includes both feature-gestures. 

I'm not sure how to think about color scheme; it's clearly possible to take 
nearly any design and adjust to nearly any palette. 

If I were a wizard with svg, I'd try making a version that pulls colors 
from the active palette. Even if that's not necessary for the official 
version-release image, given its role at tiddlywiki.com, we all might enjoy 
a tw image that "rolls" with changes in the palette. (Someone —telmiger? — 
shared an svg tool that allowed pulling svg details from fields -- that was 
lots of fun to play with!)

-Springer



On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 5:18:19 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao springer
>
> Yeah. It is interesting. I saw it as an arrow and only later saw it as the 
> bottom of "W". :-)
>
> Visually the issue is is you had a band at the bottom that abuts the 
> letters that creates a fictive impression. 
> A small gap under the letters before the bottom-band would likely solve 
> the issue too?
>
> Just a comment
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 22 June 2021 at 00:00:13 UTC+2 springer wrote:
>
>> TT, it did sot occur to me that the mask on the tv letters could look 
>> like an arrow. Below is a variant that shifts that effect: (at the expense 
>> of somewhat irregular letter-forms)...
>>
>> -Springer
>>
>> [image: dusk-field-alt.png],
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 10:51:07 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> springer wrote:
>>>
 Since it's been a week, it may be worth seeing where things stand with 
 graphic options:

 https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/

>>>
>>> Small comment  on your gallery of 4 ...
>>>
>>> Best
>>> TT
>>>
>>>  [image: Screenshot 2021-06-21 164635.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: JavaScript Error Message

[PMario]

Hi Anna,

Can you remember, what was changed when the Error popped up the first time?

Which plugins do you use?

-mario

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[tw5] 3 short Videos about Saving TW locally, sync to GoogleDrives, editable with TiddlyDrive

[PMario]

Hi Folks
I did just release a 3 Video series that demonstrate the use of the 
following configuration.

A lokal file TiddlyWiki <-> synced to GoogleDrive <-> editable with 
TiddlyDrive

The Playlist:  
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuiC_HFhI4OxYRyH6zagG13chNFu-64XF

I don't use this configuration on my own, but it worked fine with my tests. 

Feedback is very welcome.

have fun!
Mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a way to automatically save changes on TiddlyWiki?

[PMario]

On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 11:35:38 AM UTC+2 arlandri...@gmail.com wrote:

Now that it looks like the problem has been fixed, which plug in would you 
> suggest to use? still node.js?
> And, last question (I swear it); is there a way to search for a specific 
> word in the whole wiki? I mean something similar to the CTRL+H function 
> that you use on Google drive.
>

Hi, 
I did just release 3 videos 
, 
where I do show a possibility that may be interesting for you, since you 
already use GoogleDrives. 

It is a combination with file-backups AddOn for FireFox, which saves to a 
directory I called "driveWikis" you can name than any way you want. The 
"driveWikis" folder is synced to Google Drive which is connected to 
TiddlyDrive. This configuration allows you to change the wiki from a local 
file uri and the web. 

It's not intended to be edited at the same time, but the wikis should be 
safely synced between several devices. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] JavaScript Error Message

[Anna]

I've just started using TiddlyWiki yesterday and I have no idea how to 
solve this. Just in the last few hours I sometimes get this message when I 
try to delete a tiddler:[image: Capture1.PNG]

It''s not every time and if I click the green check after it deletes and 
doesn't seem to cause a problem. I've refreshed a few times and it hasn't 
changed it and I really can't work out what to do about it. Any help would 
be really appreciated!

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[tw5] Re: Streams Plugin - Splitting text

[Si]

Hi hsteve. There are two ways to split text:

1. If you are editing a node and press enter, the stream will be split at 
the location of the caret/curser.
2. If you are editing a node and press alt+enter, the text will be split at 
every place there is a new line.

Note that /n/n is a regular expression that represents any new line. It's 
not something you have to actually add to the text.

On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 12:27:04 UTC+1 SteveH wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> A basic question relating to text splitting within a single long text 
> tiddler.
>
> The plugin settings show 
>
>- Regular expression used to split text = /n/n
>- Split text at caret position
>
> Inserting /n/n/ or a claret didn't seem to work .  
>
> Looking for help here.
>
> Regards
>
> hsteve
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Streams Plugin - Splitting text

[Saq Imtiaz]

- \n\n is a regular expression, so in text that corresponds to two line 
breaks.
- Splitting a longer tiddler is triggered by alt+enter (unless you have 
changed the keyboard shorcuts)

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 1:27:04 PM UTC+2 SteveH wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> A basic question relating to text splitting within a single long text 
> tiddler.
>
> The plugin settings show 
>
>- Regular expression used to split text = /n/n
>- Split text at caret position
>
> Inserting /n/n/ or a claret didn't seem to work .  
>
> Looking for help here.
>
> Regards
>
> hsteve
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Streams Plugin - Splitting text

[SteveH]

*(sorry I tried \n\n per the plugin - didn't work.)

On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 9:27:04 pm UTC+10 SteveH wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> A basic question relating to text splitting within a single long text 
> tiddler.
>
> The plugin settings show 
>
>- Regular expression used to split text = /n/n
>- Split text at caret position
>
> Inserting /n/n/ or a claret didn't seem to work .  
>
> Looking for help here.
>
> Regards
>
> hsteve
>
>
>

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[tw5] Streams Plugin - Splitting text

[SteveH]

Hi,

A basic question relating to text splitting within a single long text 
tiddler.

The plugin settings show 

   - Regular expression used to split text = /n/n
   - Split text at caret position

Inserting /n/n/ or a claret didn't seem to work .  

Looking for help here.

Regards

hsteve


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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Frédéric Demers]

@ludwa6
 the macrocall takes advantage of a new feature in 5.1.24 (or 5.2.0)

   - extended
   

unusedtitle
   macro to use the prefix parameter

(up until then I had copied/modified the unusedtitle macro to do the same)

On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 06:23, ludwa6  wrote:

> Hey @fred: Good to hear, thanks ; sounds like you too might make good use
> of the button script Si has provided
> , as
> i am now doing.
>
> Also, i am curious to try your node-naming macrocall... But i wonder what
> you mean by "requires pre-release".  Does that mean a specific version of
> TW and/or Streams is needed? If so, can you say which it is, specifically?
>
> /walt
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 4:01:37 AM UTC+1 fred@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I use Streams daily (all my TW interactions are Streams-based). I my
>> workflow, I treat them as sub-tiddlers really. You could say I replaced
>> larger tiddlers with multiple headings with much smaller streams nodes (but
>> not single line ones); main advantage is I can move nodes around, indent
>> them, etc... and drag them from one tiddler to another (although I have
>> recently noted this has an unfortunate side effect). And the double-click
>> edit is very handy, focused to the one sub-tiddler I care to change.
>>
>> I have customized the node titles to be  <$macrocall $name="unusedtitle"
>> baseName=<> separator="/" /> (requires pre-release). In my
>> workflow however, the return key does not create a new nodes;
>> shift-return does (ctrl-return exits edit mode). This way I can enter
>> several lines, bullets, etc.. and when I am ready, shift-return for the
>> next node. I like that better. I use alt-right, alt-left to indent, so I
>> can manage lists of bullets, number or checkboxes.
>>
>> In all I am a big fan; I have on occasion wished for the ability to
>> flatten and move content around to overcome the unfortunate side-effect,
>> but have done so manually.
>>
>> Cheers; and thanks Saq!
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 19:01:09 UTC-4 Si wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Walt,
>>>
>>> SO this is to ask all of you with any experience of Streams plugin: Can
 you relate to the need i am expressing?  Or have you found a good way
 "flatten" your streams, and integrate your Streams content properly into a
 TW instance?  If so, anything you might care to share in terms of workflow
 and/or code would be most appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't personally have any need to convert a stream into a bulleted
>>> list within a single tiddler*.* As you note, outliners very useful for
>>> agile note taking, but in my opinion a hierarchical list is not the best
>>> way to *present* a single idea. So in general once I have moved my
>>> streams nodes to their evergreen home, I aspire to convert my notes into
>>> more readable prose. I do this by rearranging the nodes into a flat list,
>>> re-writing as required, and then flattening with a button described here:
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rEtegfiGYJE/m/L0-euDfWAAAJ
>>>
>>> In reality I rarely actually get to that stage, and am generally happy
>>> to leave my evergreen notes in "node-form". I don't personally see any
>>> benefit in converting them to a bulleted markdown list, but it depends on
>>> what your use case is?
>>>
>>> Meanwhile: i too would very much like to know who else is using Streams
 regularly, and in what sort of workflow(s).
 So if you are one, dear reader, please let us know!
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi Saq,
>>>
>>> One of the things I would dearly like to know is how many people are
 actually using Streams on a regular basis, and what their workflow looks
 like. My feeling is its a very small handful and I'll admit that probably
 influences how much time I devote to working on Streams.
>>>
>>>
>>> You may have seen it but I roughly described my workflow here:
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/gbEHUyX8dc0/m/r1yF5JdXCAAJ
>>>
>>> For me Streams excels at quickly capturing information that I cannot yet
>>> fit into any main ideas within your knowledge. Being able to re-jig this
>>> captured information is helpful for making sense of it, eventually
>>> integrating them with the main ideas that I want to internalise. In
>>> particular this can help to break through some of the constraints of linear
>>> reading.
>>>
>>> I aspire to one day build some incremental reading
>>>  tools with
>>> TiddlyWiki, which may partially replace my use of streams, but for now I
>>> have found streams to be the best solution for non-linear reading.
>>>
>>> On the topic of how many people use it, maybe you could consider
>>> creating a Google Form and linking to it from the download page, asking
>>> users if they would take a second to answer some brief questions?
>>>
>>> I was also wondering if you had considered 

Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[ludwa6]

Hey @fred: Good to hear, thanks ; sounds like you too might make good use 
of the button script Si has provided 
, as i 
am now doing.

Also, i am curious to try your node-naming macrocall... But i wonder what 
you mean by "requires pre-release".  Does that mean a specific version of 
TW and/or Streams is needed? If so, can you say which it is, specifically?

/walt
On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 4:01:37 AM UTC+1 fred@gmail.com wrote:

> I use Streams daily (all my TW interactions are Streams-based). I my 
> workflow, I treat them as sub-tiddlers really. You could say I replaced 
> larger tiddlers with multiple headings with much smaller streams nodes (but 
> not single line ones); main advantage is I can move nodes around, indent 
> them, etc... and drag them from one tiddler to another (although I have 
> recently noted this has an unfortunate side effect). And the double-click 
> edit is very handy, focused to the one sub-tiddler I care to change.
>
> I have customized the node titles to be  <$macrocall $name="unusedtitle" 
> baseName=<> separator="/" /> (requires pre-release). In my 
> workflow however, the return key does not create a new nodes; 
> shift-return does (ctrl-return exits edit mode). This way I can enter 
> several lines, bullets, etc.. and when I am ready, shift-return for the 
> next node. I like that better. I use alt-right, alt-left to indent, so I 
> can manage lists of bullets, number or checkboxes.
>
> In all I am a big fan; I have on occasion wished for the ability to 
> flatten and move content around to overcome the unfortunate side-effect, 
> but have done so manually.
>
> Cheers; and thanks Saq!
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 19:01:09 UTC-4 Si wrote:
>
>> Hi Walt,
>>
>> SO this is to ask all of you with any experience of Streams plugin: Can 
>>> you relate to the need i am expressing?  Or have you found a good way 
>>> "flatten" your streams, and integrate your Streams content properly into a 
>>> TW instance?  If so, anything you might care to share in terms of workflow 
>>> and/or code would be most appreciated.
>>
>>
>> I don't personally have any need to convert a stream into a bulleted list 
>> within a single tiddler*.* As you note, outliners very useful for agile 
>> note taking, but in my opinion a hierarchical list is not the best way to 
>> *present* a single idea. So in general once I have moved my streams 
>> nodes to their evergreen home, I aspire to convert my notes into more 
>> readable prose. I do this by rearranging the nodes into a flat list, 
>> re-writing as required, and then flattening with a button described here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rEtegfiGYJE/m/L0-euDfWAAAJ
>>
>> In reality I rarely actually get to that stage, and am generally happy to 
>> leave my evergreen notes in "node-form". I don't personally see any benefit 
>> in converting them to a bulleted markdown list, but it depends on what your 
>> use case is?
>>
>> Meanwhile: i too would very much like to know who else is using Streams 
>>> regularly, and in what sort of workflow(s). 
>>> So if you are one, dear reader, please let us know!  
>>
>>
>>  Hi Saq,
>>
>> One of the things I would dearly like to know is how many people are 
>>> actually using Streams on a regular basis, and what their workflow looks 
>>> like. My feeling is its a very small handful and I'll admit that probably 
>>> influences how much time I devote to working on Streams.
>>
>>
>> You may have seen it but I roughly described my workflow here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/gbEHUyX8dc0/m/r1yF5JdXCAAJ
>>
>> For me Streams excels at quickly capturing information that I cannot yet 
>> fit into any main ideas within your knowledge. Being able to re-jig this 
>> captured information is helpful for making sense of it, eventually 
>> integrating them with the main ideas that I want to internalise. In 
>> particular this can help to break through some of the constraints of linear 
>> reading.
>>
>> I aspire to one day build some incremental reading 
>>  tools with 
>> TiddlyWiki, which may partially replace my use of streams, but for now I 
>> have found streams to be the best solution for non-linear reading.
>>
>> On the topic of how many people use it, maybe you could consider creating 
>> a Google Form and linking to it from the download page, asking users if 
>> they would take a second to answer some brief questions?
>>
>> I was also wondering if you had considered setting up a way for users to 
>> donate? Not necessarily to fund development, just to show appreciation for 
>> great free software! I am not currently in a position to contribute much, 
>> but in the future I would certainly be happy to subscribe to a patreon or 
>> whatever.
>>
>> I would add that like Mario I am very happy with the current features of 
>> streams, though I have made the following tweak 

Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[ludwa6]

@Si : Dude!  I just used your clever little button script to flatten a 
caffeine-fueled Stream of a couple dozen nodes into a single tiddler to 
memorialise that epic train of thought :-). 
Think i'm gonna add this button feature to my Journal tiddler template, to 
see if this makes that sticky business of daily Journal-writing flow 
eaasierr, without making such a mess in my Zettelkasten. 
Thanks for this, mate...  and, 

PS, i'm likewise interested in the idea of using Streams as an incremental 
reading tool;  AND

PPS: Also +1 the idea of finding some mechanism whereby we could send some 
monetary tokens of appreciation Saq's way!

/walt


On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 12:01:09 AM UTC+1 Si wrote:

> Hi Walt,
>
> SO this is to ask all of you with any experience of Streams plugin: Can 
>> you relate to the need i am expressing?  Or have you found a good way 
>> "flatten" your streams, and integrate your Streams content properly into a 
>> TW instance?  If so, anything you might care to share in terms of workflow 
>> and/or code would be most appreciated.
>
>
> I don't personally have any need to convert a stream into a bulleted list 
> within a single tiddler*.* As you note, outliners very useful for agile 
> note taking, but in my opinion a hierarchical list is not the best way to 
> *present* a single idea. So in general once I have moved my streams nodes 
> to their evergreen home, I aspire to convert my notes into more readable 
> prose. I do this by rearranging the nodes into a flat list, re-writing as 
> required, and then flattening with a button described here: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rEtegfiGYJE/m/L0-euDfWAAAJ
>
> In reality I rarely actually get to that stage, and am generally happy to 
> leave my evergreen notes in "node-form". I don't personally see any benefit 
> in converting them to a bulleted markdown list, but it depends on what your 
> use case is?
>
> Meanwhile: i too would very much like to know who else is using Streams 
>> regularly, and in what sort of workflow(s). 
>> So if you are one, dear reader, please let us know!  
>
>
>  Hi Saq,
>
> One of the things I would dearly like to know is how many people are 
>> actually using Streams on a regular basis, and what their workflow looks 
>> like. My feeling is its a very small handful and I'll admit that probably 
>> influences how much time I devote to working on Streams.
>
>
> You may have seen it but I roughly described my workflow here: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/gbEHUyX8dc0/m/r1yF5JdXCAAJ
>
> For me Streams excels at quickly capturing information that I cannot yet 
> fit into any main ideas within your knowledge. Being able to re-jig this 
> captured information is helpful for making sense of it, eventually 
> integrating them with the main ideas that I want to internalise. In 
> particular this can help to break through some of the constraints of linear 
> reading.
>
> I aspire to one day build some incremental reading 
>  tools with 
> TiddlyWiki, which may partially replace my use of streams, but for now I 
> have found streams to be the best solution for non-linear reading.
>
> On the topic of how many people use it, maybe you could consider creating 
> a Google Form and linking to it from the download page, asking users if 
> they would take a second to answer some brief questions?
>
> I was also wondering if you had considered setting up a way for users to 
> donate? Not necessarily to fund development, just to show appreciation for 
> great free software! I am not currently in a position to contribute much, 
> but in the future I would certainly be happy to subscribe to a patreon or 
> whatever.
>
> I would add that like Mario I am very happy with the current features of 
> streams, though I have made the following tweak to the text display for the 
> breadcrumbs. It's a very minor thing, but in my opinion looks nicer than 
> just cutting off the title mid-word:
>
> <$text text={{{ 
> [length[]compare:number:lt[40]then] 
> ~[split[]first[40]join[]trim[]addsuffix[...]] }}}/>
>
>  I wonder if you think it should be added when you next update?
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 14:22, ludwa6  wrote:
>
>> Picking up where this earlier thread 
>>  left off, i am 
>> following Saq's advice 
>>  to 
>> start another conversation on the more specific question of HOW best to use 
>> -and perhaps adapt- the Streams plugin, to make TW into a great tool for 
>> not only "intertwingly" NoteTaking (which it certainly is), but also great 
>> for agile NoteTaking, as defined in aforementioned thread. 
>>
>> Having just installed the plugin (Streams 0.2.18) in my TiddlyDesktop 
>> instance, i am already fairly drunk on the power of having what feels like 
>> a full-fledged outliner *within* a tiddler, where i can bang out a 
>> stream of 

[tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams

[ludwa6]

That's an interesting UseCase, @mario -along w/ some interesting content, 
including talk by Don Blair  
(NB: that farm in Portugal he talks about is mine :-).  

Wish i'd had access to such toolchain during all those COVID-year Zoom 
conferences i attended, proceedings of which are mostly lost in time "like 
tears in the rain"

In a standalone-scenario like this, where the wiki serves sole purpose of 
conference record, with just one tiddler for the conference, serving as 
"parent" to all those subtiddlers that it has spawned, then:  yes: no need 
to "flatten" the stream; that would actually defeat the purpose - purpose 
being to summarize and/or elaborate on the "live" content. 

The challenge i see with this is all the manual node-wrangling involved 
-greatly facilitated by "Streams" affordance for outlining via keyboard 
shortcuts (esp w/ shortcut "cheatsheet" in the sidebar, as you suggest), 
but to whatever extent that process could be further automated, i see that 
as a real opportunity, especially w/r/t the work of correlating these nodes 
with actual video timecodes.  Your system correlated the node tiddlers to 
your own clock-time, it appears... But then when video from Zoom (Skype, 
whatever) gets cut up and pushed out to separate YouTube videos, as it. has 
done in this case, then what is the optimal workflow? 

I guess what i might do to refine this to my prefs is have each talk in the 
conference with its own "parent" tiddler;  then if i could zero-out that 
timeline of which you speak at start of each talk, it should then track 
pretty close to the final video, so long as they don't edit-out any 
portions of it in post-production.  To achieve perfect alignment, presuming 
a continuous stream, you might need to tweak these codes after -which would 
involve a bulk renaming of all related tiddlers i guess. Am just thinking 
out loud here, w/ benefit of hindsight...

Anyway, as it stands: this looks to me like a very good solution to that 
problem in the majority of YouTube videos published, whereby most of them 
have either no "shownotes" at all, or else notes that serve some 
promotional purpose(s) that most viewers would MUCH rather see complemented 
(if not entirely replaced) with a helpful time-coded set of jump-links to 
whatever section(s) of content they consider to be of interest.
To that end, Mario, this represents a solid step forward. Thanks for 
sharing it here!

/walt



On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 10:01:12 PM UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> Hi Walt,
>
> I don't use streams regularly but from time to time it's convenient for 
> brainstorming and refactoring to get ideas sorted. 
>
> I did a heavy test with an early version in August 2020 for 2 days, where 
> I did follow an online conference about DAT (now Hyper). It was possible to 
> follow the live-stream and the chat to keep notes in real time. The wiki 
> can be seen at: http://dat-conf-2020.tiddlyspot.com/ ... BUT it doesn't 
> make sense on it's own. You'll need the Agenda 
>  and the Videos 
>  . 
>
> I did set streams up in way, that tiddler titles create an automatic 
> "timeline" ... Which will allow my to connect the notes to the videos, if 
> needed. 
>
> Every tiddler has this format DAT-CON/2020/07/30/16:08:49-582 
> 
>   
> DAT-CON0hh:0mm:0ss-XXX
>
> So the TW tree-macro can also be used to view the timeline 
>  in a different 
> format. The tree-macro in the example only shows the tiddler titles. To 
> show more info I needed to modify the macro according to my needs, but 
> that's not public. 
>
> I basically use the notes with the default search function. .. I open the 
> tiddlers .. have a look for my own keywords to find the tiddler with the 
> exact "timestamp"... With the timestamp I can find the related discussion 
> or presentation in the Videos. ---> That's the main purpose of this 
> outline. 
>
> The published version doesn't contain any personal notes. ... So for me 
> there is absolutely no desire to "flatten" the structure. ... I "widen" it 
> with my notes and additional links to loosely related blog posts and 
> github repos ... 
>
> My initial feedback can be found here: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/1jTwdmq8cgI/m/Orm9JRVNBQAJ ... 
> The main problems that I did mention there with streams V0.1.10 are fixed 
> with the latest version (0.2.18) of streams. So I'm perfectly fine with the 
> possibilities it offers. 
>
> For my personal convenience I need to adjust 1 little bit of CSS 
> . I need a different colour for 
> the "collapse indicator", if a parent node is collapsed. It would be cool, 
> if this was configurable, but in normal cases I only copy paste the CSS 
> tiddler. 
>

[tw5] Re: vis plugin in Node : 413 error

[PMario]

Hi, 

The plugin should be about 1.3MByte ... So are you sure you only did use 
this 1 plugin?

If you use a client-server setup, installing plugins is done in a 
completely different way than with a single file wiki. You should install 
the plugins with the settings in tiddlywiki.info see: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.info%20Files:%5B%5Btiddlywiki.info%20Files%5D%5D%20%5B%5BInstalling%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library%5D%5D

-mario

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[tw5] vis plugin in Node : 413 error

[David SZERMAN]

Hello,

I am currently trying to install the Vis plugin from http://tiddlymap.org/

When it tries to save the data (nodejs server), I get an 413 error code. I 
tried to change the data in the Nginx and php configuration files, 
restarted the server but still the same issue ; any idea where I missed 
something ?

I have put 32M ; is it enough ?
Thanks

David

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