Re: [tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

[Shay Shaked]

Ha. That's a full circle right there :)

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 13:27 Scott Kingery  wrote:

> I found this tool long ago called Pandoc. https://pandoc.org/index.html
> Pandoc lets you convert files from one markup format into another.
>
> Not sure how much it will help in this case (if at all) but I thought I'd
> drop it here in anyway..
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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

[Shay Shaked]

I'm running out of time and I'm going to be late for work, but this work is 
more interesting... 

I identified the following "problem" (not a bug, a feature!). 

In TW, ~ is used to cancel CamelCase. In Org, this is used to indicate a 
code line (similar to ` in TW). The issue is, as you might have guessed, to 
exclude CamelCases while writing in Org. If I use ~, Org would start a code 
block later in HTML; if I don't use it, I will have a bogus CameCase link. 
The work-around, for now, is to use verbatim in Org (= signs) as you write, 
which will result in  blocks in html. Find them in the html and 
delete them manually. 

So in Org: =~CamelCase cancel= 
in TW (after taking out the ): ~CamelCase. 

I wonder if HTML has a verbatim option similar to Org that is *not *. 

Ugh, gotta go. gotta go... hope this makes sense.  

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 8:24:31 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> So seems like I answered my own question, mostly anyway, without 
> realizing. 
>
> Since TW handles raw HTML rather well, it's rather easy to just export Org 
> to HTML to a buffer (in Emacs, this means it doesn't actually save as an 
> HTML file, it just throws the HTML code into another buffer, or another 
> "windows"). 
> In Org, one needs to include some formatting options previously according 
> to taste. For me, I need to get rid of the table of contents (created 
> automatically when exporting to HTML) and the numbers added to each header 
> (again, automatically). 
>
> In Org-mode, this is done by including these options at the head of the 
> Org buffer: 
>
> #+OPTIONS: toc:nil
> #+OPTIONS: num:nil
>
>
>
> Then, when I export to HTML, I am only looking for the  tags and 
> copy what's between those. Paste into an empty TW window. Done. There's 
> even the added benefit that you don't have to keep saving the wiki and 
> overwriting your copy (which is needed in the new Firefox, even with some 
> of the plug-ins). You simply copy-paste until you're happy with the 
> results, and then save the wiki once.  
>
> My only concern is that the format is completely HTML and not in TW 
> syntax, and I'm not sure if this is a problem or not. Another issue I can 
> think about is that I cannot link to other tiddlers and verify that the 
> link work (in TW, it would be in italics if the tiddler doesn't exist), but 
> that's just a small issue of one additional back and forth. Worth it for 
> the writing experience, imho of course. 
>
> I think that, for now, I'm satisfied with what I found. That is, until I 
> try to write something later today or tomorrow... but I'm always the 
> pessimistic one. 
>
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 8:06:34 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> This looks very promising LDL, but it gives me an error (unknown keyword: 
>> export-block). This is in line 47 in ox-tiddly.el. I'm no programmer, but 
>> it looks like "export block" is outdated and needs to be updated to 
>> whatever the new syntax is.
>>
>> As for the discussion going on with Tony and Mark, it is interesting... 
>> but not sure it's part of this topic (which is just how to make it work?). 
>> So I will include my thoughts here, but I have a feeling this might lead 
>> us in a different direction :p
>>
>> Text-slicer is news to me. It's close but doesn't exactly address the 
>> issue which is the difference in syntax. Further, my Org files are already 
>> usually rather short and built  up as tiddler, it's not a matter of 
>> breaking them down but from changing what would be a bullet point (*) to a 
>> header (!) in TW. 
>>
>> There seems like there should be a way where I can export to HTML (easy 
>> enough to do with Org) and then import as tiddler with TW? Does TW do that 
>> well, assuming the HTML does not include anything too "fancy"? 
>>
>> Again, all I need is handling of headers, links, and that's it mostly. I 
>> will gladly add tags (that are different on my TW anyway) and provide a 
>> name for the tiddler myself. The format is so close. It's just that typing 
>> in Org-mode is much easier and effective, for me,  and comes with the added 
>> benefits of spell checker (doesn't always work in TW). 
>>
>> I can talk more about the benefits of writing in Org-mode, but I think 
>> that's outside the scope of this discussion -- to each their own. That 
>> said, I wouldn't recommend anyone try Org-mode just because they want to 
>> write in TW... that's crazy talk. There must be other reasons. 
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 4:23:13 AM UTC-4, LDL wrote:
>>>
>>> You can try this exporter: https://github.com/dfe

[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

[Shay Shaked]

So seems like I answered my own question, mostly anyway, without realizing. 

Since TW handles raw HTML rather well, it's rather easy to just export Org 
to HTML to a buffer (in Emacs, this means it doesn't actually save as an 
HTML file, it just throws the HTML code into another buffer, or another 
"windows"). 
In Org, one needs to include some formatting options previously according 
to taste. For me, I need to get rid of the table of contents (created 
automatically when exporting to HTML) and the numbers added to each header 
(again, automatically). 

In Org-mode, this is done by including these options at the head of the Org 
buffer: 

#+OPTIONS: toc:nil
#+OPTIONS: num:nil



Then, when I export to HTML, I am only looking for the  tags and copy 
what's between those. Paste into an empty TW window. Done. There's even the 
added benefit that you don't have to keep saving the wiki and overwriting 
your copy (which is needed in the new Firefox, even with some of the 
plug-ins). You simply copy-paste until you're happy with the results, and 
then save the wiki once.  

My only concern is that the format is completely HTML and not in TW syntax, 
and I'm not sure if this is a problem or not. Another issue I can think 
about is that I cannot link to other tiddlers and verify that the link work 
(in TW, it would be in italics if the tiddler doesn't exist), but that's 
just a small issue of one additional back and forth. Worth it for the 
writing experience, imho of course. 

I think that, for now, I'm satisfied with what I found. That is, until I 
try to write something later today or tomorrow... but I'm always the 
pessimistic one. 

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 8:06:34 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> This looks very promising LDL, but it gives me an error (unknown keyword: 
> export-block). This is in line 47 in ox-tiddly.el. I'm no programmer, but 
> it looks like "export block" is outdated and needs to be updated to 
> whatever the new syntax is.
>
> As for the discussion going on with Tony and Mark, it is interesting... 
> but not sure it's part of this topic (which is just how to make it work?). 
> So I will include my thoughts here, but I have a feeling this might lead 
> us in a different direction :p
>
> Text-slicer is news to me. It's close but doesn't exactly address the 
> issue which is the difference in syntax. Further, my Org files are already 
> usually rather short and built  up as tiddler, it's not a matter of 
> breaking them down but from changing what would be a bullet point (*) to a 
> header (!) in TW. 
>
> There seems like there should be a way where I can export to HTML (easy 
> enough to do with Org) and then import as tiddler with TW? Does TW do that 
> well, assuming the HTML does not include anything too "fancy"? 
>
> Again, all I need is handling of headers, links, and that's it mostly. I 
> will gladly add tags (that are different on my TW anyway) and provide a 
> name for the tiddler myself. The format is so close. It's just that typing 
> in Org-mode is much easier and effective, for me,  and comes with the added 
> benefits of spell checker (doesn't always work in TW). 
>
> I can talk more about the benefits of writing in Org-mode, but I think 
> that's outside the scope of this discussion -- to each their own. That 
> said, I wouldn't recommend anyone try Org-mode just because they want to 
> write in TW... that's crazy talk. There must be other reasons. 
>
>
>  
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 4:23:13 AM UTC-4, LDL wrote:
>>
>> You can try this exporter: https://github.com/dfeich/org8-wikiexporters 
>> that should give you a tid file via the standard export interface of 
>> org-mode
>>
>> Il giorno martedì 26 giugno 2018 03:21:30 UTC+2, Shay Shaked ha scritto:
>>>
>>> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
>>> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
>>> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>>>
>>> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing 
>>> experience is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) 
>>> format. The closet I saw was this 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Editing%20Tiddlers%20with%20Emacs> on 
>>> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
>>> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would 
>>> *really 
>>> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>>>
>>> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
>>> work with TW at the same time? 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

[Shay Shaked]

This looks very promising LDL, but it gives me an error (unknown keyword: 
export-block). This is in line 47 in ox-tiddly.el. I'm no programmer, but 
it looks like "export block" is outdated and needs to be updated to 
whatever the new syntax is.

As for the discussion going on with Tony and Mark, it is interesting... but 
not sure it's part of this topic (which is just how to make it work?). 
So I will include my thoughts here, but I have a feeling this might lead us 
in a different direction :p

Text-slicer is news to me. It's close but doesn't exactly address the issue 
which is the difference in syntax. Further, my Org files are already 
usually rather short and built  up as tiddler, it's not a matter of 
breaking them down but from changing what would be a bullet point (*) to a 
header (!) in TW. 

There seems like there should be a way where I can export to HTML (easy 
enough to do with Org) and then import as tiddler with TW? Does TW do that 
well, assuming the HTML does not include anything too "fancy"? 

Again, all I need is handling of headers, links, and that's it mostly. I 
will gladly add tags (that are different on my TW anyway) and provide a 
name for the tiddler myself. The format is so close. It's just that typing 
in Org-mode is much easier and effective, for me,  and comes with the added 
benefits of spell checker (doesn't always work in TW). 

I can talk more about the benefits of writing in Org-mode, but I think 
that's outside the scope of this discussion -- to each their own. That 
said, I wouldn't recommend anyone try Org-mode just because they want to 
write in TW... that's crazy talk. There must be other reasons. 


 


On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 4:23:13 AM UTC-4, LDL wrote:
>
> You can try this exporter: https://github.com/dfeich/org8-wikiexporters 
> that should give you a tid file via the standard export interface of 
> org-mode
>
> Il giorno martedì 26 giugno 2018 03:21:30 UTC+2, Shay Shaked ha scritto:
>>
>> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
>> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
>> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>>
>> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing 
>> experience is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) 
>> format. The closet I saw was this 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Editing%20Tiddlers%20with%20Emacs> on 
>> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
>> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would 
>> *really 
>> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>>
>> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
>> work with TW at the same time? 
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

[Shay Shaked]

OK, let me make an attempt at explaining better... slightly. 

Org-mode works within Emacs. It's hard to fully explain Org-mode because it 
has many, many features. But, for the needs of converting to .tid files, we 
don't need even half of it's features. 

Org-mode in its' basic for (an .org file) would look something like this: 

* Header one
** Header two
*** Header three

[[url][link]] 

/italics/

*bold*

Notice how close this already is to TW. 

The more problematic parts would be, maybe, adding tags which in Org Modes 
are added to header only in the form of :tag: (it's all text-based). It 
will be something very very simple, that switches * for !, and can 
"translate" links to what I described above. Org-mode does much much more, 
but for the purposes of writing (for me anyway) this is enough. The trick 
would be then, to find all the "bullet points" in TW and change them to 
headers; find the links and change the to TW format. 

I tried to convert from Org-mode to markdown 
<https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/markdown/> and from markdown to 
TW which kinda works... but it looks like a weird way to get at it. There's 
tiddlywiki-mode, which I linked above. This should "plug into" Emacs, and 
allow to edit .tid files... just not sure how. Was hoping someone here 
would know. 

Hope this sheds more light. Org-mode (imo) makes a lot of sense for 
writing, and for those of us who already use TW on a regular basis, I think 
there's an obvious match here -- TW is good to present and conserve 
information long term, Org-mode is the dynamic, quick task-to-do and 
thought to capture thing I always needed from TW but couldn't use it for 
because it's rather static, requires revisions, and doesn't work well on 
phone (this is my opinion of course). The both complete each other rather 
well. 

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Shay,
>
> Your question depends on someone knowing the emacs and org-mode references 
> you have made (I do not), and someone may very well know what you are 
> talking about, however if you opened this question up to include examples, 
> such that people with extensive tiddlywiki but not emacs org experience 
> could understand what may be needed, you will most likely get more answers 
> and sooner.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 11:21:30 AM UTC+10, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
>> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
>> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>>
>> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing 
>> experience is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) 
>> format. The closet I saw was this 
>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Editing%20Tiddlers%20with%20Emacs> on 
>> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
>> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would 
>> *really 
>> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>>
>> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
>> work with TW at the same time? 
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] import from Org-Mode

[Shay Shaked]

I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 

I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing experience 
is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) format. The 
closet I saw was this 
 on 
tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would *really 
*like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 

So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
work with TW at the same time? 


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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

That's what I did.. and I think that's what messed it up. 

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 4:33:26 AM UTC-4, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Shay,
>
> The thing I did, wrongly, is to try to play around with the tiddler I 
>> created *$:/tags/RawMarkup*. I wanted to include a comment to tell 
>> myself what I did. As soon as I did that, it broke stuff. So... ok I guess 
>> I can't explain in that tiddler, I'll explain in a tiddler leading to it. A 
>> bit messy, but no big deal. $ tiddlers are not meant to be self-explanatory 
>> anyway, they are code. 
>>
>> I think HTML comments
>
> 
>
> should work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

Ah, good point there. I could do that right. 

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 8:35:18 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Shay,
>
> I believe in documentation, and self documentation myself. I tend to use 
> the description field in a given tiddler to do this as it has less 
> likelyhood of interfering with the tiddler itself.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 4:02:26 AM UTC+10, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> OK so after testing and re-testing, I think I understand what the issue 
>> is. 
>>
>> The good news is that *$:/tags/RawMarkup *works. 
>>
>> Just create a tiddler, put the code from Google Fonts in it, for example:
>>  https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Markazi+Text; rel=
>> "stylesheet">
>> In the tiddler tagged with *$:/tags/RawMarkup*, save it, save your wiki, 
>> reload wiki. 
>>
>> Then you have to specify you want to USE the font. You can do this in CSS 
>> in the wiki, or the newer version has this in the wiki settings. Just 
>> specify the font face, as you see it in Google fonts. This should work. 
>>
>> The thing I did, wrongly, is to try to play around with the tiddler I 
>> created *$:/tags/RawMarkup*. I wanted to include a comment to tell 
>> myself what I did. As soon as I did that, it broke stuff. So... ok I guess 
>> I can't explain in that tiddler, I'll explain in a tiddler leading to it. A 
>> bit messy, but no big deal. $ tiddlers are not meant to be self-explanatory 
>> anyway, they are code. 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 7:51:24 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> It might well be. It sounds likely its a bug.
>>>
>>> IF something that worked with the $*:/tags/RawMarkup* tag in versions 
>>> prior to 5.1.17 stopped working then most likely it is. The best way to be 
>>> sure is to clone the same wiki content to 5.1.17 & 5.1.16 and see. If it 
>>> doesn't work in 5.1.17 then maybe open an issue at: 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues
>>>
>>> UPDATE: Or comment here: https://groups.google.com/d/ 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/OcKiFvhyBQAJ>
>>> msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/ 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/OcKiFvhyBQAJ>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/OcKiFvhyBQAJ
>>>
>>> JD wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yeah, this definitely was how I did it in previous versions, using 
>>>> *$:/tags/RawMarkup*
>>>> Is this maybe a bug in 5.1.17 ?
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

OK so after testing and re-testing, I think I understand what the issue is. 

The good news is that *$:/tags/RawMarkup *works. 

Just create a tiddler, put the code from Google Fonts in it, for example:
 https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Markazi+Text; rel=
"stylesheet">
In the tiddler tagged with *$:/tags/RawMarkup*, save it, save your wiki, 
reload wiki. 

Then you have to specify you want to USE the font. You can do this in CSS 
in the wiki, or the newer version has this in the wiki settings. Just 
specify the font face, as you see it in Google fonts. This should work. 

The thing I did, wrongly, is to try to play around with the tiddler I 
created *$:/tags/RawMarkup*. I wanted to include a comment to tell myself 
what I did. As soon as I did that, it broke stuff. So... ok I guess I can't 
explain in that tiddler, I'll explain in a tiddler leading to it. A bit 
messy, but no big deal. $ tiddlers are not meant to be self-explanatory 
anyway, they are code. 

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 7:51:24 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> It might well be. It sounds likely its a bug.
>
> IF something that worked with the $*:/tags/RawMarkup* tag in versions 
> prior to 5.1.17 stopped working then most likely it is. The best way to be 
> sure is to clone the same wiki content to 5.1.17 & 5.1.16 and see. If it 
> doesn't work in 5.1.17 then maybe open an issue at: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues
>
> UPDATE: Or comment here: https://groups.google.com/d/ 
> 
> msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/ 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/OcKiFvhyBQAJ
>
> JD wrote:
>>
>> yeah, this definitely was how I did it in previous versions, using 
>> *$:/tags/RawMarkup*
>> Is this maybe a bug in 5.1.17 ?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

Raw markup doesn't work. If the tiddler is closed, I don't get the fonts 
anymore. I must be doing something wrong. trying to look. 


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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

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On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 6:52:05 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I don't understand. You should just need to do it once to load the font 
> and then it should be available in the wiki.
>

Jed, I get it, missed part of what you said. Are you talking about the wiki 
HTML page? Just shove the cove somewhere in the header tag?  

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

That would make sense... but that means I have to tag every single tiddler 
I write. Even if I can automate it, it kind of ruins the idea of tagging 
(to me, anyway).  

On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 6:39:45 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> For 1 you put your html in a tiddler and tag the tiddler with 
> $:/tags/RawMarkup that adds the contents to the  html tag and it 
> will always be available.
>
> I don't know about 2.
>

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[tw5] Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

Hi all, 

I looked through here, and there is indeed a google-font discussion (which 
is getting a bit old) but doesn't help me much. 

I'm trying to get Google fonts working on a wiki that will be online. 

The code provided (for example:
https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Catamaran:300; rel=
"stylesheet"> 

only works as long as the tiddler it's in is loaded. Kind of makes sense. I 
figured I can have an ugly workaround and include this line in the Wiki's 
title, or in every tab in the sidebar, so it's always loaded. As long as I 
also include the CSS in the CSS sheet, the above work. That is, I need to 
include the above link in a tiddler that is loaded, AND, need to have the 
CSS tell the wiki this is my font. I get it, makes sense, a bit annoying 
with the workaround but whatever. 

Problem is, I noticed I can't change the *size *of the font in the actual 
tiddlers. That is, looks like the P property of the CSS is the only thing 
NOT changed if I change the size in the setting. Further, I would like to 
define the headlines as a different font maybe, just because what I choose 
for text is not exactly the greatest when it comes to the title. This 
probably requires that I define H2 in CSS buffer... but wouldn't the 
settings built in would over-write this? 

So, here's what I'm looking for:

   1. Have the Google font (or two maybe) loaded somewhere and have them *stay 
   *loaded. 
   2. Incorporate different size for the text in the tiddlers than the 
   default
   3. Not use an ugly workaround if possible. 

Anyone here done this? 

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[tw5] Re: how: add icons for tags (SVG files)

[Shay Shaked]

Oh! So close...

was missing tag icon for it ($:/tags/Image), so now it DOES show. Kinda. 
It's not bold like the other icons, and the icon looks.. bad. doesn't 
change to white on dark background tag "pills" if you know what I mean. 
Also, the SVG shows next to the tiddler's title (if it's tagged with it) 
not sure that's normal. I thought it was only showing in the tag "pill"

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 8:02:01 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Thanks for the help guys. I'm sorry for the delay, you know, work gets in 
> the way but I'm back here to try. 
>
> What I did is look more closely at the made SVG files in TW, and realize 
> that they are CSSed (it's a verb now..!) to be of a specific size. I 
> resized the *image* to be that size (previously it was too big) and then I 
> saw the whole thing. The original image seems to be too big to be a tag 
> icon. 
>
> Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how to tell TW that it has a new 
> icon. When I extend the drop-down menu for icons in the tag editor, my new 
> tag is not listed. Maybe I forgot to tag it or something, I did save it 
> under core images though. Suggestions? 
>

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[tw5] Re: how: add icons for tags (SVG files)

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks for the help guys. I'm sorry for the delay, you know, work gets in 
the way but I'm back here to try. 

What I did is look more closely at the made SVG files in TW, and realize 
that they are CSSed (it's a verb now..!) to be of a specific size. I 
resized the *image* to be that size (previously it was too big) and then I 
saw the whole thing. The original image seems to be too big to be a tag 
icon. 

Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how to tell TW that it has a new 
icon. When I extend the drop-down menu for icons in the tag editor, my new 
tag is not listed. Maybe I forgot to tag it or something, I did save it 
under core images though. Suggestions? 

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[tw5] add icons for tags (SVG files)

[Shay Shaked]

So I looked in here and while there's an explanation, it's a bit over my 
head. I didn't even know SVG files are vector-graphics files, that was my 
starting point. 

I opened one of the icon tiddlers to take a closer look, and then started 
playing by copy-pasting the html I saw in a SVG I created in the browser. 
Image shows big (TW must resize them, not sure where's that in the code). 
OK, saved tiddler in the $:/core/images/ library saved wiki.. nothing. it 
doesn't show. 

Before I any further on this tangant that prevents me from doing some more 
important Wikiing, thought I'd post the question here, you guys must have 
more experience. I use https://convertio.co/png-converter/ to change png to 
svg. 

Ya? thanks in advance. 

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[tw5] Export/Import all nested tags?

[Shay Shaked]

I want a section of my TW to be exported into another wiki. The section is 
defined by a tag, and then there are tags under that tag. Is there a way to 
export ALL of them to .tid format, and then import them as a bunch to the 
new wiki, or do I have to drag, one by one?

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[tw5] Re: (Warning, long post) - I've been using TW for three years. Here's my usage story.

[Shay Shaked]

This is fine.. thank you for spreading it :)

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 7:20:26 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Shay
>
> Great stuff. Well written. Illuminating.
>
> FWIW I tweeted a link to it on Twitter 
> <https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/status/996006429646520321> that 
> garnered 6 Retweets & 13 Likes. That's significant scale in that group--at 
> least you know its been read quite a lot.
>
> I took the liberty of adding a quote from you to the thread "I Love 
> TiddlyWiki Because ..." here 
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/kyCE8fLwUoU/ijEcPXCWBQAJ>. 
> Let me know if you don't approve and I'll remove it.
>
> Below I clipped down to what I found most interesting and made one comment 
> about Androids.
>
> Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> ...My Name is Shay and I'm am a digital archivist...
>>
>  
>
>> TW has been a rock in a stormy sea of apps. It's been the one constant 
>> software where I keep the most information about myself and what I do.
>>
>
> If I had to guess what's at the heart of the restlessness of looking for 
>> other things ... it's the fact that I can't use it for *everything... *a 
>> big chunk of functionality is missing because I can't use it on my phone. 
>>
>
> Yes, I know of the Android app, and I also think it's terrible next to the 
>> "real thing"
>
>
> Regarding Android ... there is a recent thread here that won't assure you, 
> but may add a bit of info on others experiences: March Of The Androids ... 
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/GUnOZYd6_oY/MUQ200NvCgAJ>
>  
>
>> ... I find peace in the notion that all roads lead to TiddlyWiki... 
>> edited and formatted and *organized* correctly. I just wish I could get 
>> to it ... more often. 
>>
>  
>
>> TW takes time, it takes sitting down on your behind...  It takes work: 
>> mental stamina and time which I too often find that I don't have enough. 
>> But, when I do sit down and "translate" something from say work to 
>> TiddlyWiki-ish, explaining a problem in a third-person... I really find 
>> that I enjoy myself. I sometimes catch myself ... and whisper "There. Now 
>> it's written like it should." There's nothing quite like it. 
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] (Warning, long post) - I've been using TW for three years. Here's my usage story.

[Shay Shaked]

Hey Tony,

I see you're active here especially recently. Thank you for the feedback.
If you do have any Todo systems you can share (just tell me what works for
you) please do!

Thanks for reading.

On Mon, May 14, 2018, 09:28 TonyM  wrote:

> Shay,
>
> Thanks for sharing. It is wonderful to hear others respecting tiddlywiki
> and the community as I do.
>
> I will not go into solution mode at this point and suggest I think most of
> you desired outcomes are possible now if not once a few mature a little
> more.
>
> I now run more than 20 tw5 instances because I have maintained and
> developed appropriate seperation and sharing tools. But many related to
> building solutions that are multiuse.
>
> Regards
> Tony
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[tw5] (Warning, long post) - I've been using TW for three years. Here's my usage story.

[Shay Shaked]

Hi. My Name is Shay and I'm am a digital archivist. Or so I think. 

For the last month or so, I've been Brainstorming and SelfTalking about 
project planning, ToDos, and information archiving. I've been trying out, 
again, different applications and platforms. Some I tried for a day or two, 
some I just bit into and spat out, leaving behind a trail of semi-eaten 
productivity muffins. It's not the first time, or the second, or the third, 
this happens. As a matter of fact, my partners agree that I "live my life 
through apps" and they gave up keeping up with me, even though I seemed to 
have calmed down quite a bit recently. I have, partly because of TW and 
partly because of my demanding job in IT, which often bites into my late 
afternoons and weekends and leave me too drained to deal with even more 
digital information at home. 

TW has been a rock in a stormy sea of apps. It's been the one constant 
software where I keep the most information about myself and what I do. 
Never before I had such a rich place that save so much of my own 
information, not even my handwritten journals (since journaling in itself 
used to be a part of TW, now separated). 

If I had to guess what's at the heart of the restlessness of looking for 
other things (besides the fact that I probably have some form of ADD or 
another, this is also from other tell-tell signs and self-observation), 
it's the fact that I can't use it for *everything. *For example, a big 
chunk of functionality is missing because I can't use it on my phone. Yes, 
I know of the Android app, and I also think it's terrible next to the "real 
thing"- mostly because the phone, for me, is no place to sit down and write 
informative tiddlers with all that they require (Linux script to 
auto-resize and manipulate images so they fit well in tiddlers; tabs open 
of different topics and things I'm looking into, including this group; 
endless river of tiddlers reflecting on topic at hand; my journal...). It 
has never been a good ToDo list tool for me as a result, and, while a great 
place to *save *information, I find it rather inadequate in *capturing 
*information 
quickly and in raw form, something I usee Google Keep and the like right 
now. This I write not as a form of criticism or as a statement of problems 
with it, no. It is simply me mentioning what it can't do for me, just like 
you can't expect a big car to be good to travel in small always. It's not 
meant for it. It will get stuck and ruined. 

But like Rome, I find peace in the notion that all roads lead to 
TiddlyWiki. By that I mean, no matter how I capture information, it always 
ends in TW -- edited and formatted and *organized* correctly. I just wish I 
could get to it - and to my peace of mind - more often. TW takes time, it 
takes sitting down on your behind, sorting through the journal, bits of 
notes, sometimes even physical paper (I also use OneNote at work as 
infodump, slowly pulling information from it to my own personal TW). It 
takes work: mental stamina and time which I too often find that I don't 
have enough. But, when I do sit down and "translate" something from say 
work to TiddlyWiki-ish, explaining a problem in a third-person and breaking 
it down to its part, I really find that I enjoy myself. I sometimes catch 
myself hum doing it, then look at my work, and whisper "There. Now it's 
written like it should." There's nothing quite like it. 

Here, in this group, I find people who understand how this feels. This is 
why I'm writing this long post. The sense of community here, unknown to the 
most of the world, connected by the love of sorting out information, a 
bunch of us geeks sit around and tell each other TW stories around our 
digital campfire. There are few other areas in my life that are somewhat 
similar to me, where I feel kind of at home. Not once have I wondered, how 
come is it that this one app has been around so long, in this form, and 
it's still such a sweet secret very few will ever know. I think I'm 
actually learning to like it. 

It's likely if you read this post, you'd want to suggest tools you use. 
Perhaps DoItNow right here in TW, perhaps some app out there like Todoist 
or TaskWarrior (depends on your preference), but trust me when I say, I 
think I tested them all. My list of apps here is probably around 50 
different names and titles. Don't feed my obsession. Instead, I'd really 
like to hear your stories again. These always inspire me the most. How have 
you been using TiddlyWiki? What's your style? How do you sort information 
and how do you organize your ToDos in a way that makes sense to you? If 
your TW is something you can share, please do! I'd love to see it. If not, 
don't worry about it. Ideally I'd like to collect these stories in - where 
else - my own TW. 

Thank you for reading. I hope it was somewhat enjoyable... 



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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: ToDoNow, Listreveal, Reminders

[Shay Shaked]

Dear Thomas, 

I'm playing around with your ToDoNow again. I might need some dumb-proof 
explanation to a couple of things (perhaps you have more documentation?)

   1. How can I create subtasks inside a "ToDo" Tiddler, or, what would you 
   suggest for a big project that has a breakdown of smaller things? 
   2. Can you save a template of a project by modifying the "ToDo" tiddler or 
   would that break anything?
   3. What's the scope and the stuff it can do?

Thanks in advance, and thank you for this awesome work. 

On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 5:47:41 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hello TW-friends
>
> After quite some time I have updated most of my plugins on 
> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html with some minor and some deeper going 
> changes. Generally I have tried to make my stuff more robust for different 
> designs. Additionally I have been able to integrate some user feedback from 
> the last five months ore so. 
>
> As always: Please make a backup or two before updating. And if you update, 
> update all dependencies. 
>
> Enjoy and keep the feedback coming!
> Thomas
>
> ===
>
> From the readme of ToDoNow:
>
> Version 1.2.9
>
>- Minor redesign with better icons, context sensitive colours, less 
>whitespace and additional configuration options:
>   - hide the header of ToDoNow 
>   
>   - check and adjust author/creator info and task template
>   - translate all text, date and time formats on ToDoNow 
>    via translation tiddlers
>  - you can leave the translation empty to save the space
>   - independent save button (no longer a duplication of the core save 
>button, so adding an accesskey to the core version 
>
>  
>should not be a problem anymore)
>- listreveal updated to version 0.3.21
>- reminders updated to version 0.1.6
>
> Special thanks to Surya, Mark, Jasper and Josiah for feedback and 
> suggestions!
>
>
>
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Re: [tw] Re: embedding .md (markdown) files?

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks!

So, install the plugin, and then the embedding should work. I will try it
out.

On Jan 8, 2018 11:00, "'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki" <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Well, the one I used was here: https://tiddlywiki.com/
> plugins/tiddlywiki/markdown/
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 7:52:48 AM UTC-8, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mark. I think I know which plugin, but would you be kind enough to
>> point me to it again so there are no mistakes?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2018 09:41, "'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki" <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This seems to work:
>>>
>>> <$wikify type="text/x-markdown" name="md" output="html"
>>> text={{MarkdownExample}}>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Where text is replaced with your markdown tiddler you want embedded.
>>> This will render the markdown even if the original text wasn't identified
>>> as markdown. Of course you have to have md plugin installed.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 5:03:02 AM UTC-8, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's an interesting point. When you use MD, the output us formatted -
>>>> however, this formatted form is usually a "a preview" of the software you
>>>> use (in my case, Typora) or . HTML
>>>>
>>>> MD in itself has no real "look" for a better term.
>>>>
>>>> I guess then, the question becomes, can I have TW "understand" MD and
>>>> display it in respect to markdown rules? Just as it would display HTML
>>>> embedding?
>>>>
>>>> Why not just submit HTML then, you may ask? Because I use MD in
>>>> tempora, and "printing" to HTML is making it a final product, meaning, I
>>>> can't go into the HTML and edit it again in MD; now it's HTML.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. So this is an interesting turn. Need to think in different terms.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2018 07:52, "@TiddlyTweeter" <tiddly...@assays.tv> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MD source is plain text. If you embed that its the raw plain text you'd
>>>> see. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> Josiah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 8 January 2018 11:56:44 UTC+1, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked something similar before, about writing md directly into TW --
>>>>> but this is not really useful, considering how much more complete (imo) TW
>>>>> text is.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, now question becomes this: I like embedding certain files inside
>>>>> my journal tiddlers for the week, which include a project list, etc. I
>>>>> still write many texts on my phone using markdown. Is there a way to embed
>>>>> them directly into a tiddler? For now, I print as PDF and embed this -- 
>>>>> not
>>>>> too bad, but this means I can't make changes. I have to go back to the
>>>>> original file and print again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions? Thanks!
>>>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: embedding .md (markdown) files?

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks Mark. I think I know which plugin, but would you be kind enough to
point me to it again so there are no mistakes?

Thank you.

On Jan 8, 2018 09:41, "'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki" <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> This seems to work:
>
> <$wikify type="text/x-markdown" name="md" output="html"
> text={{MarkdownExample}}>
> <>
> 
>
> Where text is replaced with your markdown tiddler you want embedded. This
> will render the markdown even if the original text wasn't identified as
> markdown. Of course you have to have md plugin installed.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 5:03:02 AM UTC-8, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> That's an interesting point. When you use MD, the output us formatted -
>> however, this formatted form is usually a "a preview" of the software you
>> use (in my case, Typora) or . HTML
>>
>> MD in itself has no real "look" for a better term.
>>
>> I guess then, the question becomes, can I have TW "understand" MD and
>> display it in respect to markdown rules? Just as it would display HTML
>> embedding?
>>
>> Why not just submit HTML then, you may ask? Because I use MD in tempora,
>> and "printing" to HTML is making it a final product, meaning, I can't go
>> into the HTML and edit it again in MD; now it's HTML.
>>
>> Hmm. So this is an interesting turn. Need to think in different terms.
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2018 07:52, "@TiddlyTweeter" <tiddly...@assays.tv> wrote:
>>
>>
>> MD source is plain text. If you embed that its the raw plain text you'd
>> see. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 8 January 2018 11:56:44 UTC+1, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> I asked something similar before, about writing md directly into TW --
>>> but this is not really useful, considering how much more complete (imo) TW
>>> text is.
>>>
>>> OK, now question becomes this: I like embedding certain files inside my
>>> journal tiddlers for the week, which include a project list, etc. I still
>>> write many texts on my phone using markdown. Is there a way to embed them
>>> directly into a tiddler? For now, I print as PDF and embed this -- not too
>>> bad, but this means I can't make changes. I have to go back to the original
>>> file and print again.
>>>
>>> Suggestions? Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: embedding .md (markdown) files?

[Shay Shaked]

That's an interesting point. When you use MD, the output us formatted -
however, this formatted form is usually a "a preview" of the software you
use (in my case, Typora) or . HTML

MD in itself has no real "look" for a better term.

I guess then, the question becomes, can I have TW "understand" MD and
display it in respect to markdown rules? Just as it would display HTML
embedding?

Why not just submit HTML then, you may ask? Because I use MD in tempora,
and "printing" to HTML is making it a final product, meaning, I can't go
into the HTML and edit it again in MD; now it's HTML.

Hmm. So this is an interesting turn. Need to think in different terms.

On Jan 8, 2018 07:52, "@TiddlyTweeter" <tiddlytwee...@assays.tv> wrote:


MD source is plain text. If you embed that its the raw plain text you'd
see. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

Best wishes
Josiah


On Monday, 8 January 2018 11:56:44 UTC+1, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I asked something similar before, about writing md directly into TW -- but
> this is not really useful, considering how much more complete (imo) TW text
> is.
>
> OK, now question becomes this: I like embedding certain files inside my
> journal tiddlers for the week, which include a project list, etc. I still
> write many texts on my phone using markdown. Is there a way to embed them
> directly into a tiddler? For now, I print as PDF and embed this -- not too
> bad, but this means I can't make changes. I have to go back to the original
> file and print again.
>
> Suggestions? Thanks!
>
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Re: [tw] Re: embedding .md (markdown) files?

[Shay Shaked]

pmariojo,

I'm aware of the plug-in, but I don't want to use MD to write tiddlers; I
want to have MD files embedded in another tiddler, as you could do with
PDFs or CSV files.

This I do by creating a tiddler that contains the PDF, embedded, and then
have this tiddler inside my general journal tiddler, if this makes sense.

On Jan 8, 2018 07:14, "PMario" <pmari...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 11:56:44 AM UTC+1, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I asked something similar before, about writing md directly into TW -- but
> this is not really useful, considering how much more complete (imo) TW text
> is.
>

There are plugins, to use markdown within TW.

tiddlywiki/markdown  ... uses markdown-js library and can be installed with
the built in plugin-library mechanism.

wikilabs/markdown-i
<https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/markdown-it/#HelloThere>t ... uses the
markdown-it library and can be installed using the link.

...but this is not really useful,
>

You'll need to be a little bit more specific about, what you try to achieve
with MD, that can't be done with the existing possibilities.
If you don't let us know, how should we be able to fix it ;)

have fun!
mario

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[tw] embedding .md (markdown) files?

[Shay Shaked]

I asked something similar before, about writing md directly into TW -- but 
this is not really useful, considering how much more complete (imo) TW text 
is. 

OK, now question becomes this: I like embedding certain files inside my 
journal tiddlers for the week, which include a project list, etc. I still 
write many texts on my phone using markdown. Is there a way to embed them 
directly into a tiddler? For now, I print as PDF and embed this -- not too 
bad, but this means I can't make changes. I have to go back to the original 
file and print again. 

Suggestions? Thanks! 

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[tw] keyboard shortcuts without the buttons

[Shay Shaked]

I don't like the button and I think they take too much space. I know I can 
take them off (one by one) from settings, however, I do want to keep some 
of the keyboard shortcuts handy. The preview pane, for example, is awesome; 
so is the link shortcut. How can this be accomplished? I'm sure it's rather 
simple. Looking into this myself. 

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[tw] Re: Wiki writing philosophy.

[Shay Shaked]

So if I get you correctly, each file has a toddler to describe it, and then you 
can look up the description tiddlers?

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Re: [tw] Re: Wiki writing philosophy.

[Shay Shaked]

Interesting. How does it get sorted by a customized field? What does it
mean?

On Dec 17, 2017 21:56, "Diego Mesa" <diego...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Shay,
>
> I use TW as my entire external brain! That means I have a tag for
> "Personal"  and "Research" (which is technical). So my journal entries are
> all tagged with Journal, as well as either Research or Personal. I also
> keep bits of math, code-snippets, and journal paper notes in my TW with
> appropriate tags.
>
> I make extensive use of lists to group things together. For example, my
> "Research Journal" tiddler is:
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Research]tag[Journal]!sort[created]]">
> <$link><$transclude field="title" mode="block"/>
> <$transclude field="text" mode="block"/> 
> <$link to="Research Journal"> "true">
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> My "Papers of Interest" Tiddler is:
>
> !! Health
> <$list filter="[tag[PoI]tag[EHR]!nsort[touched]]" template=
> "$:/.dm/templates/list-summary-prioritize"/>
>
>
> !! General
> <$list type="dl" filter="[tag[PoI]!tag[EHR]!nsort[touched]]" template=
> "$:/.dm/templates/list-summary-prioritize"/>
>
> where PoI is Papers of Interest, and touched is a field I use to keep
> papers Ive recently come across floated to the top.
>
> Let me know if you'd like to discuss more!
>
> Diego
>
>
> On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 8:01:40 PM UTC-6, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> I apologize in advance if this is going to sound like a huge rant.
>> Because it probably will be.
>>
>> I've used TW for two years, and for the most part, it has been my
>> journal. I've created a style guide and image macro to help me with that,
>> and things have been good. I write three-four times a week or so, year
>> round, and I am not completing my second year. I have a long list of
>> tiddlers loaded with journal notes, and a media library with images and
>> even self-recordings which I grew to like.
>>
>> Thing is, this is not exactly what a wiki is supposed to be, to me. I
>> know, I know, it is what you make of it, and if that's a good usage that I
>> feel comfortable with, what's the problem, right? Well, I'm about to
>> publish my TW on my website again, and it occurred to me that the technical
>> notes (those I can actually post) also tend to be personal, and long, and
>> rant-like. The reason I wanted to put a wiki up is so I have a recording of
>> the technical things I've been doing (mostly tech related), and share it
>> with the world... but you see, it's the *idea *of it that I think I've
>> done, not the actual thing. 90% of the wiki is all personal journal notes.
>>
>> I went back and read a couple of pages back in tiddlywiki.com. I found a
>> couple of tools I wasn't aware of, but the website itself is not built in a
>> way that makes sense to me. I am not sure why. I find interesting bits of
>> information and tools, but I find that I happen to stumble upon them and
>> not get to them naturally. I like the general philosophy, pretty KISS-like,
>> and I want to adopt something of the sort... not sure how though.
>>
>> Is there anyone here who uses TW to record technical information?
>> Technical documents? Something you can share? I'm interested in the style,
>> and the meta-information level, as in, what do you do and *why *do you
>> do it and how does it make sense to you. I feel a bit lost, not in a scary
>> way, but I do want my Wiki to start being more technical. For example, I
>> recorded the "recipe" for my newest site as a category.  You know, things
>> like what colors I used, what CSS edition I've added and why, etc. With
>> that, I suddenly had a good document to compare other notes to. It can be
>> anything really; how to tie shoes, how to make the bed, what is my cleaning
>> routine... So again, do you guys do anything like that with TW?
>>
>> Thanks for reading!
>>
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[tw] Wiki writing philosophy.

[Shay Shaked]

I apologize in advance if this is going to sound like a huge rant. Because 
it probably will be. 

I've used TW for two years, and for the most part, it has been my journal. 
I've created a style guide and image macro to help me with that, and things 
have been good. I write three-four times a week or so, year round, and I am 
not completing my second year. I have a long list of tiddlers loaded with 
journal notes, and a media library with images and even self-recordings 
which I grew to like. 

Thing is, this is not exactly what a wiki is supposed to be, to me. I know, 
I know, it is what you make of it, and if that's a good usage that I feel 
comfortable with, what's the problem, right? Well, I'm about to publish my 
TW on my website again, and it occurred to me that the technical notes 
(those I can actually post) also tend to be personal, and long, and 
rant-like. The reason I wanted to put a wiki up is so I have a recording of 
the technical things I've been doing (mostly tech related), and share it 
with the world... but you see, it's the *idea *of it that I think I've 
done, not the actual thing. 90% of the wiki is all personal journal notes. 

I went back and read a couple of pages back in tiddlywiki.com. I found a 
couple of tools I wasn't aware of, but the website itself is not built in a 
way that makes sense to me. I am not sure why. I find interesting bits of 
information and tools, but I find that I happen to stumble upon them and 
not get to them naturally. I like the general philosophy, pretty KISS-like, 
and I want to adopt something of the sort... not sure how though. 

Is there anyone here who uses TW to record technical information? Technical 
documents? Something you can share? I'm interested in the style, and the 
meta-information level, as in, what do you do and *why *do you do it and 
how does it make sense to you. I feel a bit lost, not in a scary way, but I 
do want my Wiki to start being more technical. For example, I recorded the 
"recipe" for my newest site as a category.  You know, things like what 
colors I used, what CSS edition I've added and why, etc. With that, I 
suddenly had a good document to compare other notes to. It can be anything 
really; how to tie shoes, how to make the bed, what is my cleaning 
routine... So again, do you guys do anything like that with TW? 

Thanks for reading!  

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[tw] Re: Building a complex reference list

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks for that Jed, this works! now, to limit it with a count hmmm. 

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 6:54:26 AM UTC-5, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> You are right that 1 and 3 relatively simple to do.
>
> Putting this in a tiddler will do 1 and 3:
>
> <$list filter='[backlinks[]tag[journal]]'>
>
>
> 
>
>  says to use the current tiddler as your input, you can 
> change this to something like [DnD] to make it for the DnD tiddler instead 
> of the tiddler where you put the code.
>
> backlinks[] gives all tiddlers that have links to the input tiddler (so 
> this covers 1)
>
> tag[journal] only keeps tiddlers tagged journal (so this covers 3)
>
> In order to make 2 work requires a new filter operator. It may not be too 
> hard to make because it would hopefully be a modified version of backlinks 
> but I don't know how backlinks works so I am not sure how difficult it 
> would be. 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Building a complex reference list

[Shay Shaked]

Tony,

The logic in that requirement is based on three points:

* I have a "people" subject in my Wiki.
* I mention certain people in my journal. If I know a person, I usually end
up giving them a nick name which works with CamelCase, for example,
"TheShaked."
* If a person has a Tiddler (those I interact with often do), there should
be a list of journal entries (also tiddlers) where I mentioned that person.
  * ...But, not every time I mention a name in writing, the journal is
actually about that person. For example, I could have a 5 paragraph journal
entry, and finish with "on my way to meet TheShaked"
* In order to limit the amount of "noise" of a long list, only those
journal entries that mention the person twice or three times or so, will be
added. This is not perfect, but reduces the number of accidental journal
entries.

I'm still thinking of a way...


On Dec 8, 2017 21:07, "TonyM" <anthony.mus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Say,
>
> On Item 2  *if *two or more links to this tiddlers are present in the
> other tiddler
> It is clear this requires a technical solution, but I am curious how this
> requirement comes about?
>
> Clearly you will have to count each reference and referencing tiddler
> separately to determine if there are two or more references in each
> tiddler, one or more is also grater than 1"
>
> I use the below in a footer to search a (every) tiddler if they have one
> or more  occurrences of "string" in them.
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]search[string]limit[1]]" variable=null>
> 
>
> And I have not quite worked out why the count widget is not working for me.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#CountWidget
>
> No answer just hints,
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 8 December 2017 22:16:53 UTC+11, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> This is going to be a bit hard to explain in writing, but here goes.
>>
>> Is there a way to create a list which will be created from other tiddlers
>> that connect to it?
>> In TW, if you open the extra option of a tiddler with the down arrow,
>> then go to info, then go to references, you see a list of tiddlers linking
>> to it. I want a list that will display these tiddlers to show in the
>> tiddler.
>>
>> Then: is it possible to have such a list created *automatically *in the
>> tiddler *if *two or more references are made to it from the *same *
>> tiddler.
>>
>> So let's recap with an example:
>>
>> I have a Tiddler called DnD (I'm a major geek, leave me alone ;) ).
>> There are perhaps 20 tiddlers connecting to it using that CamelCase link
>> above. I want a list displaying these inside the tiddler. But, this will be
>> way more effective if ONLY tiddlers that mention DnD more than once will
>> show. This way, if I talked about my weekend in a journal tiddler and I
>> describe a game I had, it is likely to show; but if I just mention it in
>> passing somewhere else, it won't. Makes sense? Good, because there's a bit
>> more:
>>
>> It will be even *better *if only journal tiddlers (tagged: journal) will
>> show.
>>
>>
>> - - -
>>
>> 1. Make a list of tiddlers linking to this tiddler
>>
>> 2. Make a list of tiddlers linking to this tiddler *if *two or more
>> links to this tiddlers are present in the other tiddler
>>
>> 3. Make a list of the above only of tiddlers tagged "journal".
>>
>>
>> So... anyone up for explaining this to me? I believe 1 and 3 are actually
>> not that hard, it's 2 that requires a bit of programming. Thanks!
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Building a complex reference list

[Shay Shaked]

Also excuse annoying auto correct typos, my phone prefers toddlers over
tiddlers ;)

On Dec 8, 2017 07:11, "Shay Shaked" <s.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that, already covered 2 out of 3 :)
>
> So, we I wonder if there's a function of sorts that reads words in a
> toddler. If that's the case, we can include the first part you mentioned in
> a macro:
>
>  (where DnD is the tag, the only variable).
>
> Then, code will need to be written, and I don't know how it will look
> like. Something along this:
>
> if (<currentTiddler|wordcount=$tag > 1)
>   
> else
>   exit
>
> Embed it all in the linklist macro above, so all you need is to specify a
> tag. A list will be generated but would only display if the count is bigger
> than one, or even 2 if I want a stricter filter for more common terms that
> I mention often.
>
> Now, does such a thing exist...? :)
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2017 06:54, "Jed Carty" <inmyso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You are right that 1 and 3 relatively simple to do.
>
> Putting this in a tiddler will do 1 and 3:
>
> <$list filter='[backlinks[]tag[journal]]'>
>
>
> 
>
>  says to use the current tiddler as your input, you can
> change this to something like [DnD] to make it for the DnD tiddler instead
> of the tiddler where you put the code.
>
> backlinks[] gives all tiddlers that have links to the input tiddler (so
> this covers 1)
>
> tag[journal] only keeps tiddlers tagged journal (so this covers 3)
>
> In order to make 2 work requires a new filter operator. It may not be too
> hard to make because it would hopefully be a modified version of backlinks
> but I don't know how backlinks works so I am not sure how difficult it
> would be.
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Re: [tw] Re: Building a complex reference list

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks for that, already covered 2 out of 3 :)

So, we I wonder if there's a function of sorts that reads words in a
toddler. If that's the case, we can include the first part you mentioned in
a macro:

 (where DnD is the tag, the only variable).

Then, code will need to be written, and I don't know how it will look like.
Something along this:

if ( 1)
  
else
  exit

Embed it all in the linklist macro above, so all you need is to specify a
tag. A list will be generated but would only display if the count is bigger
than one, or even 2 if I want a stricter filter for more common terms that
I mention often.

Now, does such a thing exist...? :)


On Dec 8, 2017 06:54, "Jed Carty"  wrote:

You are right that 1 and 3 relatively simple to do.

Putting this in a tiddler will do 1 and 3:

<$list filter='[backlinks[]tag[journal]]'>




 says to use the current tiddler as your input, you can
change this to something like [DnD] to make it for the DnD tiddler instead
of the tiddler where you put the code.

backlinks[] gives all tiddlers that have links to the input tiddler (so
this covers 1)

tag[journal] only keeps tiddlers tagged journal (so this covers 3)

In order to make 2 work requires a new filter operator. It may not be too
hard to make because it would hopefully be a modified version of backlinks
but I don't know how backlinks works so I am not sure how difficult it
would be.

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[tw] Building a complex reference list

[Shay Shaked]

This is going to be a bit hard to explain in writing, but here goes. 

Is there a way to create a list which will be created from other tiddlers 
that connect to it? 
In TW, if you open the extra option of a tiddler with the down arrow, then 
go to info, then go to references, you see a list of tiddlers linking to 
it. I want a list that will display these tiddlers to show in the tiddler. 

Then: is it possible to have such a list created *automatically *in the 
tiddler *if *two or more references are made to it from the *same *tiddler. 

So let's recap with an example:

I have a Tiddler called DnD (I'm a major geek, leave me alone ;) ). 
There are perhaps 20 tiddlers connecting to it using that CamelCase link 
above. I want a list displaying these inside the tiddler. But, this will be 
way more effective if ONLY tiddlers that mention DnD more than once will 
show. This way, if I talked about my weekend in a journal tiddler and I 
describe a game I had, it is likely to show; but if I just mention it in 
passing somewhere else, it won't. Makes sense? Good, because there's a bit 
more: 

It will be even *better *if only journal tiddlers (tagged: journal) will 
show. 


- - - 

1. Make a list of tiddlers linking to this tiddler

2. Make a list of tiddlers linking to this tiddler *if *two or more links 
to this tiddlers are present in the other tiddler

3. Make a list of the above only of tiddlers tagged "journal". 


So... anyone up for explaining this to me? I believe 1 and 3 are actually 
not that hard, it's 2 that requires a bit of programming. Thanks!

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Re: [tw] Re: pandoc and markdown to TW format

[Shay Shaked]

This is all new stuff to me. I'm reading up on parsers, so this is beyond
me at this point.

It's simple enough to go over the md file for now and put in the formatting
myself. Since I know I will be doing this, I don't bother too much with
formatting; i create a list at the button of the entry with notes for
format, usually notes to what I want to link or what picture to add, and
that's it. I also use the search function in the browser to highlight
underscores when adding an article, so I known to use // for example.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017, 18:58 TonyM  wrote:

> Josiah,
>
> The following is possible more for my own understanding, but may help
> describe the situation.
>
> When it comes to IMPLICIT rather than explicit there are hidden characters
> in any text be it new lines, a pair of new lines and more. It seems to me
> that along with some smart CSS determining if you can easily process an
> alternate markup can only be determined in its details, ie stepping through
> each of the detailed markup features and finding a way to display according
> the required standard. The idea would be to always retain the text in its
> custom markup and only display it according to standards just in time. This
> allows it to be imported/exported/viewed and edited in its native form.
> Since the act of displaying it, is one of the standards, HTML the fact is
> we can copy or save it in this display format as well for transfer to other
> documents or environments.
>
> The other approach would be to use tiddlywiki markup and macros as needed
> to display (not in finished presentation format) but in fountain markup
> which can be copied and pasted into a converter or tool for the final
> display.
>
> I suppose it all depends on which part(s) of the workflow you want
> tiddlywiki to be responsible.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 12:01:03 AM UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao TonyM
>>
>> TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it a third approach, or one of your two to use tiddler type to keep
>>> and edit in any desired markup standard and only render it as needed to
>>> html as currently happens with wikitext?
>>>
>>
>> For some types of specialised Markup, closely linked to application
>> types, it makes most sense to create a new Content Type and go much of the
>> way to creating final HTML for the rendered version.
>>
>> FOUNTAIN markup is an example that is widely used in writing screenplays. *It
>> makes much sense to author using Fountain when writing screenplays*
>> inTW. But its markup conflicts with TW standard markup.
>> https://fountain.io/syntax
>>
>> There are TWO ways forward (which you can mix) ... you convert for TW
>> compliant markup where you can (in other words change F. markup to
>> compliant TW markup in a pre-parser before the TW parser runs--after that
>> you get what you'd expect) AND/OR directly convert F. Markup to HTML.
>>
>> Fountain markup is interesting because its largely IMPLICIT (how you
>> space paragraphs & how you start them) whilst most normal wiki markup is
>> initiated by explicit characters (*/-/! etc). F. is great for screenplay
>> authors because *you rarely ever have to enter any explicit markup* if
>> you have your line layout right.
>>
>> But to use the F. approach in TW you need more than straight conversion
>> of markup systems because the "implicit" markup of F. TW has no equivalents
>> for. Its still pretty easy once you can access a pre-parser just using
>> regular expressions to do it though.
>>
>> All of this works under point (1) of my last post.
>>
>> Point (2) about CONVERSION is more a one-way-ticket. Its for cases where
>> you don't need to retain original markup, just permanently convert for
>> native TW normal.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
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[tw] Re: pandoc and markdown to TW format

[Shay Shaked]

Here's my naaive, newbie theory:

I use Typora (Markdown) and TiddlyWiki (TW text). Typora had panodoc built into 
it, so it can convert to HTML, Wiki text, and bunch of other things. Pandoc has 
"extensions" (for lack of a better term) that "translate" Markdown to Wikitext. 

Ok, so, why not find the code that translate md to Wikitext, and change it so 
instead of translating # to , translate it to  for example. Continue 
with the rest. 

I _know_ it can't be that simple, but don't know why. Also, TW understands 
HTML, so that's a work around, but not exactly what I want. 

Can you, wise people, explain it to me in terms that I can grasp maybe? Thanks 
:-)

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[tw] pandoc and markdown to TW format

[Shay Shaked]

So I installed the markdown plugin, works ok, but the problem is that it 
doesn't play nice inside TW. some markings (like strikethrough) and my own 
Macros, highlight to text, journal entries and the like do not play nice in 
TW. So, I was looking at pandoc to help me convert markdown to WikiText, 
which exists, but then TW is not exactly WikiText

Did anyone build a TW extension to pandoc perhaps? Can this be done? Or, is 
there a plugin to TW that understands WikiText? 

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[tw] Re: [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Shay Shaked]

Wow. Mind blown. *.*

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 3:34:59 PM UTC-4, Reid Gould wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Dropboard 1.0.0
>
> Dropboard version 1 has arrived! It is now safe, stable, and ready for use 
> as a permanent installation in your wikis.
>
> See the source on GitHub:
> https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard
>
> Learn from the examples and documentation in the User Guide:
> http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard
>
> Here's a quick overview of the major features.
>
> Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and 
> cards... But better! 
> Dropboard has:
>
>- Full integration with TiddlyWiki. Drag any tiddler into a board.
>- Collapsible lists that you can still drag cards into.
>- Lots of features to improve workflow and setup the view of your 
>board to be just right for the task at hand.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> View and edit a huge amount of data at once using window mode and scaling 
> down your font size.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> A full Trello style palette for TiddlyWiki called TWello!
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> Dropboard has been made completely by myself on my own time, and it's 
> taken quite a lot of it! The reason I spent the time to complete this 
> project is to be a key part of my design portfolio as I transition my 
> career into Software Engineering. 
>
> I have a list of features that I would love to add to create a Dropboard 
> version 2.0.0, but unfortunately this is all the time I can spend on this 
> project for free. If you're interested in supporting the next version of 
> this plugin you can support me on Patreon.
>
>
> 
>
> https://www.patreon.com/reidgould
>
>
> Special thanks to all the community members 
>  who 
> offered some great suggestions and helped hunt down bugs!
> Only the best for you and your wikis,
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[tw] So, TW Desktop?

[Shay Shaked]

I saw the Vid. 

To me, it looks a lot like the same thing as the web version. Are there any 
functional differences? I know that with the new Firefox, I'll probably 
want to use it for fluid saving process... but besides that? What are some 
good user-case scenarios when it's better to use it than the browser 
version? 

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Shay Shaked]

As well, much simpler enex files (of say, 10 notes) crash the browser. 

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:38:24 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> This is now an old topic I guess... 
>
> but just FYI I have a huge notebook enex from evernote I'm trying to get 
> into Tiddly Wiki, 3.5 GB to be honest with photos and all. I used Evernote 
> for two years you see. 
> Dragging it over after installing the  plug-in (or using import) simply 
> crashes the browser. I have to reload the wiki. I tried both on my Wiki, 
> which already contains a bunch of plugins, and on an empty.html. I'm using 
> Google Chrome for this on a Windows Machine. I might try with smaller 
> chunks from Evernote. 
>
>
> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:53:15 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I've posted a patch that will allow modification/creation dates to be 
>> applied. This should make it easier to find imported items in the testing 
>> phase.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:02:46 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> On the new, new pre-release (how do we refer to these sub-releases?) the 
>>> good news is that the internal javascript error no longer appears for 
>>> image-only notes. However, no image appears either. 
>>>
>>> Internally, a tiddler for an image-only note looks like:
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://xml.evernote.com/pub/enml2.dtd;
>>> >>> "image/png"/>
>>>
>>> On tags, its's a real mixed bag. One of the tiddlers came across with 
>>> each tag separated the way it was supposed to. However, in a few others 
>>> with multiple tags, no tag whatsoever was applied -- the original tags were 
>>> disappeared!
>>>
>>> It looks like notes with single tags might come across OK, but more 
>>> testing is needed. 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Shay Shaked]

This is now an old topic I guess... 

but just FYI I have a huge notebook enex from evernote I'm trying to get 
into Tiddly Wiki, 3.5 GB to be honest with photos and all. I used Evernote 
for two years you see. 
Dragging it over after installing the  plug-in (or using import) simply 
crashes the browser. I have to reload the wiki. I tried both on my Wiki, 
which already contains a bunch of plugins, and on an empty.html. I'm using 
Google Chrome for this on a Windows Machine. I might try with smaller 
chunks from Evernote. 


On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:53:15 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I've posted a patch that will allow modification/creation dates to be 
> applied. This should make it easier to find imported items in the testing 
> phase.
>
> Mark
>
> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:02:46 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> On the new, new pre-release (how do we refer to these sub-releases?) the 
>> good news is that the internal javascript error no longer appears for 
>> image-only notes. However, no image appears either. 
>>
>> Internally, a tiddler for an image-only note looks like:
>>
>> 
>> http://xml.evernote.com/pub/enml2.dtd;
>> >> "image/png"/>
>>
>> On tags, its's a real mixed bag. One of the tiddlers came across with 
>> each tag separated the way it was supposed to. However, in a few others 
>> with multiple tags, no tag whatsoever was applied -- the original tags were 
>> disappeared!
>>
>> It looks like notes with single tags might come across OK, but more 
>> testing is needed. 
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Request: Advanced Tips from Veteran TW users (discussion, not technical)

[Shay Shaked]

OK! So I  went ahead and installed Thoma's ToDo, and here is how it looks 
like in action:

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m6dSuGt1IaI/WSC8-3MRNnI/eyo/WaT95AAEK3APWFutxy2rawljfmwdqB-HwCLcB/s1600/Capture.PNG>
 
What I like about having my projects this way is that the checklist is 
ordered in a way that makes sense to me (one of my rules is to try not use 
more than three words for sake of simplicity). 
Notice I am using a recent NYTimes articles that has a couple of tricks to 
help as a reference, and that the Cafiza > Espresso Machine line is 
actually a link to a YouTube video, it links to the exact second where they 
show how to clean it. I will probably add more notes to this as I keep 
repeating it... 

Want to figure out a way to turn off the ability to mark this one as done 
at the bottom row... because this is an ongoing one. But this is pure 
cosmetics. Any questions, let me know! :)



On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 3:47:02 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Shay Shaked wrote: I am tired of productivity apps and to-do list apps 
> out there that are based on yet another company ...
>
> Mark S. wrote: I've tried dozens of information systems ...  I need an 
> information system to track the information systems I've used.
>
> Josiah wrote: I've seen the rise and fall of more GTD systems than God.
>
> Its a very interesting subject. I suspect that Mark & Josiah went through 
> a very complex computer-cultural saga of lost promises. Hopefully later 
> users won't go so trustingly through that fiasco.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: Request: Advanced Tips from Veteran TW users (discussion, not technical)

[Shay Shaked]

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 12:31:51 PM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Hello Shay Shaked 
>
>
>> I'm deep into my second year using TW, mostly as a journal. 
>>
>
> I do exactly that. From travel expenses to training sessions.
>  
>
> I love TW, and I've been always looking to use it on my phone (Android, 
>> Nexus 5X) as a note taking app, possibly as Google Keep replacement.
>>
>
> Me too
>
> OK yes, TW  is not *meant *for quick note taking, at least not that way, 
>> and requires some care to really make things shine out (my online Wiki is 
>> an example I'm proud of). 
>>
>>
> I have the same requirements as you. That's why I go through the journey 
> of creating my own app.
>  
>
>> *First question*: Am I right? Have you used TW as your preferred quick 
>> notes app on your phone, and if so, what's your method? 
>>
> As I said, yes I do. 
>
> My strategy is composed of several parts, but it is heavily based on my 
> own tiddlywiki edition: https://noteself.github.io 
>
> The first part of my strategy is to create a VERY SPECIFIC form for adding 
> the kind of information that I usually add. This includes input text with 
> auto-completion, select lists, and that stuff. Then I have a dashboard 
> tiddlers with several tabs with one form on each tab
>
> The second part of my strategy includes the usage of my NoteSelf android 
> app. The cool thing is that I can share a text from any other application 
> and it will be added as a tiddler. Not the most useful thing in the world, 
> but saves some keystrokes.
>
> The third part of my app consist on the multi device synchronization of 
> NoteSelf. 99% of my content is produced while I'm on my laptop. Thanks to 
> the multi device sync I can create basic versions of the tiddlers on mobile 
> and then I edit properly on my laptop. For scrapping snippets and links 
> what I usually do is share the link with my android app and then copy the 
> snippet when I arrive to my home.
>  
>
>>
>> *Second question: *How stable do you think is TW, and is it here to 
>> stay? How do you keep tabs? How often? 
>>
>
> I've been using it for years. But I really think that is a better idea to 
> close the tab when you are not using it. Tiddlywiki does not manage 
> over-writings very well. Even using NoteSelf, which uses a database shared 
> across all the tabs I don't usually keep them open.
>  
>
>>
>> And a question that follows from that, one that I ask again because it's 
>> been a while: how and where do you learn about new plugins or features that 
>> are useful for you? Themes? 
>>
>>
> Here on the group. Sadly, it is VERY HARD to keep visibility when you 
> publish a new plugin. There is a list on reddit, but I'm not sure how up to 
> date it is.
>  
>  
>
>> *Third question: *What do you, TW users, use as your favorite note 
>> taking app and your To-Do app, if it's *not *TW? 
>>
>
> I use Tiddlywiki for everything except for TODOS. The reason behind this 
> is that I need reminders, widgets, repetitions, notifications... and that 
> is not possible wit TW at the moment. I also like keeping my notes apart 
> from my todos. 
> However, I have plans to allow Tiddlywiki to raise android notifications 
> when running on my android app, but that is just a future plan.
>
> Regards 
>

Hello Mark! 

Thanks for answering my questions thoroughly. I took a look at your app, 
and I don't think I'll try it right now, but you did give me an idea - 
create a specific note *type *for what information needs to be entered, and 
basically, have it ready on my phone. After all, we're talking HTML files, 
so what's the big deal of just contributing to a tidder which will 
eventually be imported into my main TW? 

The only issue I see is right syncronazation. In the past, I had a somewhat 
complex mechanism that would update my TW via dropbox and Google Drive, and 
I'm not really interested in getting back at that just because I want to 
implement a ToDo mechanism. It's kinda of going backward for me, you know? 
I'm going to think some more... 

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[tw] Re: Request: Advanced Tips from Veteran TW users (discussion, not technical)

[Shay Shaked]

TiddlyTweeter, 

Thanks for this great feedback and thoughts. People like you are the kind 
of folks who makes it not just effective, but also fun, to use TW. 

I'll reply inline to what you said. 

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 2:11:29 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Excellent to have this laid out so well ... I'll comment on ToDos
>
> *Third question: *What do you, TW users, use as your favorite note taking 
>> app and your To-Do app, if it's *not *TW? Especially as TW users, who 
>> respect and like TW, but feel that it does only Wiki... stuff? What have 
>> you learned to count on? 
>>
>
> I'm old and worn out. I've seen the rise and fall of more GTD systems than 
> God. Before they went computer they were filofax. Before filofax they were 
> note assemblies. Before note assemblies they were etc ... I worked through 
> Covey, MindMaps, Giants Within, ultimate systems etc ...
>
> The point about GTD's, it turns out was never the systems, it was always 
> the user. There is NO GTD system that fits all. The BEST GTD's are ones you 
> create for yourself that emerge from your own process that fit you. In 
> other words: decent GTD systems are emergent expressions of you, they are 
> themselves part of the GTD you are working on. In that regard TW is very 
> good because of the extent you can customize it. And, to use a 
> philosophical term, TW inherently supports "reflexivity".
>
> But still I want to widen your query to answer it properly. The options 
> are WIDER than software. They have to be because software is not me per se. 
> Software is an animal I can train, but only to the extent to which it can 
> perform the tricks I need. And paper remains pretty damn good for lateral 
> thinking and I use it a lot. And GTD's that last are adaptive to thinking 
> about "what am i doing?" as much as "when am i doing it?" Its been a big 
> error in the history of GTDs to ever pretend otherwise.
>

I agree with you deeply sir. I'm guessing I'm not as experienced as you, 
but I am tired of productivity apps and to-do list apps out there that are 
based on yet another company sitting on Amazon's servers somewhere hoping 
to create an account for you and then down along the line some 
social-network, and if they survive long enough, integrate some sort of a 
chat app into it as well.. man, it's a pattern I see time and time again. 
Don't care. TW is a private thing for me (it's my journal), it is not 
really meant to share as a to do app, and if I want to ask someone to do 
something, I make a to do to tell that person to do it.. right? I digress. 

GTD is one big cult thing I missed on. I have the book and all and tried 
it, but it just didn't do the thing for me. I have my own system, which I 
developed throughout the years, and it is this system that survives through 
the apps, and made its way into TW as well for a while. If you want to 
share more of how you actually write your projects and tasks down, even 
show me if you will, I'd be more than happy to see.  

 

>
> For people who need ALARM CALLS to GTD, TW does not yet fit the bill. It 
> has no alert mechanism that can prod the somnambulant GTDer to awake to The 
> Priority.
>
> I have been very impressed and now use daily Thomas Elmiger's ToDoNow 
> plugin for TW. Why? Its orientated to the singular user. Its agnostic about 
> ones aims. It depicts tasks in CONTEXT (for me that OVERVIEW is more 
> important than the singular tasks). Its one of the most elegant designs for 
> a GTD I ever seen in my years of travail on the ToDo path.
>
> Then you have Cardo in TW that can deal with very complex projects. And if 
> I was running one I'd definitely consider it. Its not far off full Project 
> Management Software, yet without the complexity of their interfaces. 
>

I took a deep look. It looks impressive, and I'm working out how to use it 
exactly. Thomas' work looks solid and he is very organized, but the "jump" 
is too high for me to understand at first or second glance. I'm going to 
install the plugin, run it, work on it, see how it works, maybe get in 
touch with him directly. When I understand how it works I'll see if it fits 
my needs. I hope so, because saving my tasks and projects in TW, along with 
my journal notes and my personal information, makes perfect sense. I'd love 
to replace it with Google Keep, which I now use, if possible. 

 

>
> ---
>
> Okay you asked what I used, seriously, before TW, it was a DOS program, 
> InfoSelect. Now gone, long replaced by a crappy Windows version. I'd love 
> to implement in TW how that worked if I had the skill. Its display 
> mechanism was brilliant. Everything was by default OPEN. Then as you typed 
> into the filter the widgets on screen reduced to only what you needed. I 
> loved it. You didn't search then click on an item. The search itself 
> dynamically reduced the entries. Unicode killed it unfortunately. It was 
> ASCII only.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Request: Advanced Tips from Veteran TW users (discussion, not technical)

[Shay Shaked]

Hello all, 

I'm deep into my second year using TW, mostly as a journal. 
I have an understanding of some core concepts of TW, like creating Macros 
(simple ones), themes with CSS to customize TW and such... you know nothing 
*too 
*crazy. If you want, you can totally check out my Tech Wiki (SSTech), 
hosted on my website at shayshaked.com. 


OK, here come the very broad questions... 

I love TW, and I've been always looking to use it on my phone (Android, 
Nexus 5X) as a note taking app, possibly as Google Keep replacement. I 
tried AndTidWiki, and built a basic to-do list work around to help me in 
the past (it's documented in this group somewhere) but this never took off. 
The problems are mostly is that the android app and TW slow to use as a 
quick note taking app. In Keep, for example, I capture a quick serial and 
model number of an asset, then tag it, and the app extracts the text out of 
the image, and bam I have it ready. With TW, I need to open, right it down, 
if I take a photo, I need to edit it on a different app, than put it in the 
write media folder for TW, then link it, then make sure I'm using the right 
syntax... who has time for that? 
OK yes, TW  is not *meant *for quick note taking, at least not that way, 
and requires some care to really make things shine out (my online Wiki is 
an example I'm proud of). 

*First question*: Am I right? Have you used TW as your preferred quick 
notes app on your phone, and if so, what's your method? 

TW is developed with love mostly in this group. I believe AndTidWiki hasn't 
been really updated since 2013, and is mostly not widely known. While this 
is fine and all, and this group is always brimming with ideas and 
developments... sometimes I wonder if it's alive. You know that feeling? 
The constant worry of any user of any platform these days, worrying his 
favorite app is going to vaporize into thin air tomorrow morning, and no 
one would notice? To be fair, that's one of the major fears I have with 
Keep too, especially because it's from Google. One of the VIP wakes up one 
morning and decide "nope! no more of that!" and that's the end of Keep. 

*Second question: *How stable do you think is TW, and is it here to stay? 
How do you keep tabs? How often? 

And a question that follows from that, one that I ask again because it's 
been a while: how and where do you learn about new plugins or features that 
are useful for you? Themes? 



Over time, I learned to appreciate the Unix philosophy. I have TW, and TW 
is a Wiki, and as such it's not *meant *to be a quick note taking app, or a 
Todo app. Yes, I am totally contradicting myself. I'm wondering in general 
:p. OK, so if I want to stay *away *from the big cloud companies like 
Google and Microsoft and Apple and even Dropbox if possible, what kind of 
apps are out there that work well, are visual (include images, which is 
very helpful for me, with annotation would be a HUGE plus), that work 
independently? And if not completely independent, at least offer a clean 
(and free!) exporting option as a form of backup? A good example of an app 
that *doesn't *do that is Evernote. Simplenote is an example of an app that 
lets you at least extract all your text files and save them locally as 
well. 

OK, let's break the question down. 

*Third question: *What do you, TW users, use as your favorite note taking 
app and your To-Do app, if it's *not *TW? Especially as TW users, who 
respect and like TW, but feel that it does only Wiki... stuff? What have 
you learned to count on? 





This is a whole lot of questioning. By no means, I am hoping for a full, 
long, response that addresses ALL of the above. But opinions would be nice. 
I do hope that this discussion would stirr some minds around here maybe and 
contribute more to TW somehow. TW has been a blessing so far, I love it! 

 

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[tw] Re: Testing Tech TW on my site. Feedback wanted!

[Shay Shaked]

On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 9:17:46 AM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I didn't realize the part about the image. I'll see what I can do. The 
> spelling mistakes... Well, the way the wiki is, runs in Firefox and all, 
> titles are not checked, etc, I will give myself a pass for now. See, it's 
> based on my personal wiki and my journal where I have typos in my notes... 
> And I have so many tiddlers, it's crazy. In the future it will become 
> easier. Thanks for the important feedback!
>
> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shay 
>>
>> Nice work! Your putting that coffee cup in the site title is the first 
>> time I have seen something like that, where a symbol is rendered like that. 
>> Great idea.
>>
>> My only constructive feedback would be that the photo of the computer 
>> innards is so tall that the contents get pushed down to where only the 
>> first item is visible on my screen without scrolling down. That will likely 
>> be frustrating for your audience.
>>
>> Oh, and do a spell check search for proccess, I think you were shooting 
>> for process.
>>
>> Back to the positive, this is a nice looking TW. Kudos.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 2:36:32 AM UTC-6, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Guys, 
>>>
>>> I've been a happy TW user for a year now. I've mentioned before that I'd 
>>> love to see examples of TWs in the wild, hosted on private websites, but I 
>>> haven't really seen any. 
>>>
>>> Today I'm posting my own. SSTech is an import of a quarter of my 
>>> personal Wiki, where I hope to present to people some tricks of my trade, 
>>> as well as TW tricks that I've learned in this community. 
>>>
>>> I need feedback. Particularly, if you see any sensitive information or 
>>> something you think that shouldn't be there, please let me know. I scanned 
>>> through it a couple of times, but this being an export of my personal wiki, 
>>> maybe I missed something. 
>>>
>>> Take a look at http://shayshaked.com/TW/SSTech.html. 
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance!!
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Testing Tech TW on my site. Feedback wanted!

[Shay Shaked]

thank you! I'm surprised I haven't seen another TW "in the wild" like that.

On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 8:19:17 AM UTC-5, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Shay 
>
> Thank you for sharing your personal wiki – nice work! (I didn’t notice any 
> sensitive information.) 
>
> I hope your example will inspire others to share. 
>
> All the best! 
> Thomas 

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[tw] Re: Testing Tech TW on my site. Feedback wanted!

[Shay Shaked]

I didn't realize the part about the image. I'll see what I can do. The 
spelling mistakes... Well, the way the wiki is, runs in Firefox and all, 
titles are not checked, etc, I will give myself a pass for now. See, it's 
based on my personal wiki and my journal where I have typos in my notes... 
And I have so many tiddlers, it's crazy. In the future it will become 
easier.

Thomas: thank you! I'm surprised I haven't seen another TW "in the wild" 
like that.

On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Shay 
>
> Nice work! Your putting that coffee cup in the site title is the first 
> time I have seen something like that, where a symbol is rendered like that. 
> Great idea.
>
> My only constructive feedback would be that the photo of the computer 
> innards is so tall that the contents get pushed down to where only the 
> first item is visible on my screen without scrolling down. That will likely 
> be frustrating for your audience.
>
> Oh, and do a spell check search for proccess, I think you were shooting 
> for process.
>
> Back to the positive, this is a nice looking TW. Kudos.
>
> Dave
>
> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 2:36:32 AM UTC-6, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys, 
>>
>> I've been a happy TW user for a year now. I've mentioned before that I'd 
>> love to see examples of TWs in the wild, hosted on private websites, but I 
>> haven't really seen any. 
>>
>> Today I'm posting my own. SSTech is an import of a quarter of my personal 
>> Wiki, where I hope to present to people some tricks of my trade, as well as 
>> TW tricks that I've learned in this community. 
>>
>> I need feedback. Particularly, if you see any sensitive information or 
>> something you think that shouldn't be there, please let me know. I scanned 
>> through it a couple of times, but this being an export of my personal wiki, 
>> maybe I missed something. 
>>
>> Take a look at http://shayshaked.com/TW/SSTech.html. 
>>
>> Thank you in advance!!
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Testing Tech TW on my site. Feedback wanted!

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks guys!!

David: I didn't realize the part about the image. I'll see what I can do.
The spelling mistakes... Well, the way the wiki is, runs in Firefox and
all, titles are not checked, etc, I will give myself a pass for now. See,
it's based on my personal wiki and my journal where I have typos in my
notes... And I have so many tiddlers, it's crazy. In the future it will
become easier.

Thomas: thank you! I'm surprised I haven't seen another TW "in the wild"
like that.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016, 08:19 Thomas Elmiger  wrote:

> Hi Shay
>
> Thank you for sharing your personal wiki – nice work! (I didn’t notice any
> sensitive information.)
>
> I hope your example will inspire others to share.
>
> All the best!
> Thomas
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[tw] Testing Tech TW on my site. Feedback wanted!

[Shay Shaked]

Hi Guys, 

I've been a happy TW user for a year now. I've mentioned before that I'd 
love to see examples of TWs in the wild, hosted on private websites, but I 
haven't really seen any. 

Today I'm posting my own. SSTech is an import of a quarter of my personal 
Wiki, where I hope to present to people some tricks of my trade, as well as 
TW tricks that I've learned in this community. 

I need feedback. Particularly, if you see any sensitive information or 
something you think that shouldn't be there, please let me know. I scanned 
through it a couple of times, but this being an export of my personal wiki, 
maybe I missed something. 

Take a look at http://shayshaked.com/TW/SSTech.html. 

Thank you in advance!!

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Re: [tw] Re: Exporting all tiddlers under a specific tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

Jeremy, it's an honor to have you reply to my post directly :-)

I see what you're doing here. I changed to Tech in my case, so: 

[[Tech]] [[Tech]tagging[]] [[Tech]tagging[]tagging[]] 

It works. It gives me a list of all the tiddlers that are eventually under 
Tech. It looks rather simple! 

Now that the first question is answered (thanks!!) the new question is how 
to export these as an independent wiki, with it's own TOC at the side etc. 
If I export as HTML, I get all tiddlers open in one big river. 

The solution to that would be to create SSTech as a wiki first, then *import 
*the tiddlers into the wiki each time. That's actually not much more work 
than simply overwriting the HTML on my site. I will need to create a new 
TOC and set up my new Wiki to work with the same configurations, but this 
will be a one-time deal. I think I can work with this. 

Thanks again!  



On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 8:23:29 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Shay
>
>
> Even better: the TOC (toc-selective-expandable) gives me exactly what I 
> need already. if I can create a TOC for the "tech" part of my TW (not a 
> problem) and then somehow tell advance search to search for that TOC, I 
> could export all tiddlers matching this search. The question is, how do I 
> tell advance search to look for a certain TOC? H
>
>
> Try this on tiddlywiki.com in the “Filter” tab of advanced search:
>
> [[TableOfContents]] [[TableOfContents]tagging[]] 
> [[TableOfContents]tagging[]tagging[]] 
>
> The result is the tiddlers comprising the first three levels of the TOC. 
> To include another levels, just add the another term to the end:
>
> [[TableOfContents]] [[TableOfContents]tagging[]] 
> [[TableOfContents]tagging[]tagging[]] 
> [[TableOfContents]tagging[]tagging[]tagging[]]
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 8:10:34 AM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> Well, for now, my go-around solution is this: 
>>
>>
>>1. Manually open all Tiddlers under Tech, including the ones that are 
>>not actually tagged with "Tech"
>>2. Tag them all (using a tool found here) with a new tag, SSTech
>>3. Continue tagging every new tech related tag with SSTech (will be 
>>nice to have something that does this automatically, if it exist, I could 
>>convert it also to do what I wanted in the first place)
>>4. Export from the advanced search, looking for that tag. 
>>
>> Now that I know the advance search is actually the go-to tool for 
>> specific tiddler export, I will focus my search around finding tiddlers 
>> under a tag, not exporting tiddler under a tag. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 2:14:47 PM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> I am going to upload a part of my TW to my website (as an HTML file) and 
>>> I'm trying to find a way to export all Tiddlers under my "Tech" Tiddlers to 
>>> a new TW HTML file. I am trying to see if I can automate te process. 
>>>
>>> The individual Tiddlers "under" the main "Tech" tiddlers are not 
>>> necessarily Tagged as "Tech," they are tagged by a child tiddler which is 
>>> inside the big "Tech". 
>>> To visualize, let's say my TOC looks something like this: 
>>>
>>> Tech
>>> |
>>> |- MacOS (tagged "Tech")
>>> |  |- Tiddler A (tagged "MacOS")
>>> |
>>> |-ChromeOS (tagged "Tech")
>>> |  |- Tiddler B (tagged "ChromeOS")
>>> |  |- Tiddler C (tagged "ChromeOS")
>>> |
>>> |-Windows (tagged "Tech")
>>>|- Tiddler D (tagged "Windows")
>>>
>>> What I need is to export a TW HTML file with the above four tiddlers, 
>>> which are not all necessarily tagged as "Tech," as this will result of all 
>>> of these tiddlers showing under Tech in the TOC. 
>>>
>>> How would you guys go at this? please let me know. Thanks! 
>>>
>>>
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[tw] Re: Exporting all tiddlers under a specific tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

Even better: the TOC (toc-selective-expandable) gives me exactly what I 
need already. if I can create a TOC for the "tech" part of my TW (not a 
problem) and then somehow tell advance search to search for that TOC, I 
could export all tiddlers matching this search. The question is, how do I 
tell advance search to look for a certain TOC? H

---

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 8:10:34 AM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Well, for now, my go-around solution is this: 
>
>
>1. Manually open all Tiddlers under Tech, including the ones that are 
>not actually tagged with "Tech"
>2. Tag them all (using a tool found here) with a new tag, SSTech
>3. Continue tagging every new tech related tag with SSTech (will be 
>nice to have something that does this automatically, if it exist, I could 
>convert it also to do what I wanted in the first place)
>4. Export from the advanced search, looking for that tag. 
>
> Now that I know the advance search is actually the go-to tool for specific 
> tiddler export, I will focus my search around finding tiddlers under a tag, 
> not exporting tiddler under a tag. 
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 2:14:47 PM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> I am going to upload a part of my TW to my website (as an HTML file) and 
>> I'm trying to find a way to export all Tiddlers under my "Tech" Tiddlers to 
>> a new TW HTML file. I am trying to see if I can automate te process. 
>>
>> The individual Tiddlers "under" the main "Tech" tiddlers are not 
>> necessarily Tagged as "Tech," they are tagged by a child tiddler which is 
>> inside the big "Tech". 
>> To visualize, let's say my TOC looks something like this: 
>>
>> Tech
>> |
>> |- MacOS (tagged "Tech")
>> |  |- Tiddler A (tagged "MacOS")
>> |
>> |-ChromeOS (tagged "Tech")
>> |  |- Tiddler B (tagged "ChromeOS")
>> |  |- Tiddler C (tagged "ChromeOS")
>> |
>> |-Windows (tagged "Tech")
>>|- Tiddler D (tagged "Windows")
>>
>> What I need is to export a TW HTML file with the above four tiddlers, 
>> which are not all necessarily tagged as "Tech," as this will result of all 
>> of these tiddlers showing under Tech in the TOC. 
>>
>> How would you guys go at this? please let me know. Thanks! 
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Exporting all tiddlers under a specific tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

Well, for now, my go-around solution is this: 


   1. Manually open all Tiddlers under Tech, including the ones that are 
   not actually tagged with "Tech"
   2. Tag them all (using a tool found here) with a new tag, SSTech
   3. Continue tagging every new tech related tag with SSTech (will be nice 
   to have something that does this automatically, if it exist, I could 
   convert it also to do what I wanted in the first place)
   4. Export from the advanced search, looking for that tag. 

Now that I know the advance search is actually the go-to tool for specific 
tiddler export, I will focus my search around finding tiddlers under a tag, 
not exporting tiddler under a tag. 



On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 2:14:47 PM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I am going to upload a part of my TW to my website (as an HTML file) and 
> I'm trying to find a way to export all Tiddlers under my "Tech" Tiddlers to 
> a new TW HTML file. I am trying to see if I can automate te process. 
>
> The individual Tiddlers "under" the main "Tech" tiddlers are not 
> necessarily Tagged as "Tech," they are tagged by a child tiddler which is 
> inside the big "Tech". 
> To visualize, let's say my TOC looks something like this: 
>
> Tech
> |
> |- MacOS (tagged "Tech")
> |  |- Tiddler A (tagged "MacOS")
> |
> |-ChromeOS (tagged "Tech")
> |  |- Tiddler B (tagged "ChromeOS")
> |  |- Tiddler C (tagged "ChromeOS")
> |
> |-Windows (tagged "Tech")
>|- Tiddler D (tagged "Windows")
>
> What I need is to export a TW HTML file with the above four tiddlers, 
> which are not all necessarily tagged as "Tech," as this will result of all 
> of these tiddlers showing under Tech in the TOC. 
>
> How would you guys go at this? please let me know. Thanks! 
>
>

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[tw] Re: The end of the (Tiddly)world is nigh.

[Shay Shaked]

Hi Ed, 

I read this post and some of the comments. Personally, I never considered 
using TiddlySpace. I don't think I even looked at seriously. However, I am 
now working on my own "public facing" TW to upload, as an HTML file, to my 
own site. I don't think I'm the only guy who's thinking of doing that. 

TW is highly an independent product, which is what I love about it. I've 
started using it almost a year ego, and it grew to become an extension of 
my brain, an autobiography, a project platform, a journal, a tech notebook, 
and so much more. My TW has additions of Macros and CSS that fit my needs - 
not a lot at all, but enough to give it somewhat of a personal look. It 
 is, hands down, my most successful tech project this year: the knowledge 
in my personal TW is unrivaled by nothing else I've used, besides (perhaps) 
Evernote, which I've used for four years. And Evernote to me is completely 
dead at this point. 

TW is sort of an underdog the way I see it. The community here is very 
dedicated, and the people very much alive. It is such a niche project with 
so many people taking the time to really learn to use it that a hosting 
site does not make sense, at least in my opinion: each TW out there is 
probably highly personal, and thus, not very useful as a community tool. 

I don't know that this little "I love TW" post helps you in anyway, but I 
felt like I'd add my 0.02. I love this thing. 

On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 4:24:39 AM UTC-5, Ed Burgess wrote:
>
> Hi,
> For the last 18 months I have been building a TiddlySpace (in v.1.2.26) in 
> support of my architecture business, including pages with project data for 
> every job and office management pages such as policies and software 
> protocols. Most of the pages are 'private' but its a beautiful thing built 
> quickly and easily in one of the standard templates with very simple style 
> additions from the brilliant Tiddly Toddler and similar sites. However I 
> have no coding experience and no understanding of the infrastructure of the 
> web and why or how these wonderful pages are 'working'.
>
> I've been watching the red banner at the top of the site warning of the 
> impending closure of the TiddlySpace server which is now a couple of weeks 
> away and my diary tells me now is the time to act. I've been searching on 
> google and the Tiddly forums expecting a flurry of latest advice on 
> transposing TiddlySpaces into another platform like Wordpress, or frantic 
> discussion on the crowd-funded attempts to save the server. But what I see 
> is everyone behaving quite normally and going about their daily lives as if 
> the sky is not about to fall down. (Mind you there are quite afew posts 
> which although they apppear to be in English, I do not understand at all, 
> so could be in there!)
>
> I'm thinking I've missed something?  Of course there is the potential to 
> export out a simple HTML file from the menu items in the header.  Will my 
> TiddlySpace continue to operate normally after the server shutdown date, as 
> long as I have moved a copy of it to a local storage volume (I think thats 
> what you say when you mean 'off my computer')?
>  
> I have seen some helpful info from @cdent on exporting as JSON files (?) 
> which I have duely done, but I'm afraid I dont really know what to do with 
> them next - if indeed there is a 'next'.
>
> If anyone can tell me why the rest of the TiddlyWorld is so calm, or point 
> me to the escape capsule, that would be great.
> Thanks for your help and apologies for the gaping holes in my 
> understanding!
> Ed
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[tw] Exporting all tiddlers under a specific tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

I am going to upload a part of my TW to my website (as an HTML file) and 
I'm trying to find a way to export all Tiddlers under my "Tech" Tiddlers to 
a new TW HTML file. I am trying to see if I can automate te process. 

The individual Tiddlers "under" the main "Tech" tiddlers are not 
necessarily Tagged as "Tech," they are tagged by a child tiddler which is 
inside the big "Tech". 
To visualize, let's say my TOC looks something like this: 

Tech
|
|- MacOS (tagged "Tech")
|  |- Tiddler A (tagged "MacOS")
|
|-ChromeOS (tagged "Tech")
|  |- Tiddler B (tagged "ChromeOS")
|  |- Tiddler C (tagged "ChromeOS")
|
|-Windows (tagged "Tech")
   |- Tiddler D (tagged "Windows")

What I need is to export a TW HTML file with the above four tiddlers, which 
are not all necessarily tagged as "Tech," as this will result of all of 
these tiddlers showing under Tech in the TOC. 

How would you guys go at this? please let me know. Thanks! 

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[tw] Re: Yet another CSS question...

[Shay Shaked]

Figured it out. 

The problem was with my CSS sheet. I called in a ''' to make it look "cool" 
and code-like, and it screwed it up. Ha. Realized because other elements of 
the CSS stopped working. 


On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 9:13:51 AM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> So this time, I'm trying to create a complex style (meaning, the CSS has 
> more than one element) for lists withing a tiddler. 
>
> The CSS is: 
>
> .todo{ font-family: Verdana; font-size: 80%; background-color: #657b83; }
>
> Which is inside my Wiki stylesheet. to invoke it, I'd think I should just 
> input "@@.todo" then follow but whatever I want, and finish with another 
> @@. But, it doesn't work. Since I successfully did something similar with a 
> Macro before, I thought perhaps the style has to be included in a Macro, 
> but that didn't work either. I'm only doing basic Macros so perhaps I 
> missed something. Regardless, I believe TW can handle custom-made CSS when 
> creating a specific class, the problem is probably in the CSS itself... but 
> I'm not sure what. 
>
> Help?
>

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[tw] Yet another CSS question...

[Shay Shaked]

So this time, I'm trying to create a complex style (meaning, the CSS has 
more than one element) for lists withing a tiddler. 

The CSS is: 

.todo{ font-family: Verdana; font-size: 80%; background-color: #657b83; }

Which is inside my Wiki stylesheet. to invoke it, I'd think I should just 
input "@@.todo" then follow but whatever I want, and finish with another 
@@. But, it doesn't work. Since I successfully did something similar with a 
Macro before, I thought perhaps the style has to be included in a Macro, 
but that didn't work either. I'm only doing basic Macros so perhaps I 
missed something. Regardless, I believe TW can handle custom-made CSS when 
creating a specific class, the problem is probably in the CSS itself... but 
I'm not sure what. 

Help?

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[tw] TW5 hosted on a website

[Shay Shaked]

There are a couple of entries here about this question. It seems like 
hosting TW on a website is not really a problem because people cannot 
overwrite the html file on the server, but I just want to make sure. 

This seems to be the case for the official TW website as well. 

So, if I host my TW or parts of it on a website, people will be able to 
change it to whatever they want on the fly and even download and save it 
(by clicking the save wiki button) but, this will have no affect on the TW 
on the website, correct? 

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Re: [tw] Re: choose style for h2 inside tiddler, not ALL h2.

[Shay Shaked]

Riz and Mark,

I did try what Mark suggested, and it did not work.
In the HTML, I know that classes are defined as class="[value]" as
indicated here: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_class.asp. Riz
solution's works, which means the syntax was wrong.

I still don't understand the logic of how this class is called in the HTML
generated by TW. I feel I have 90% of the answer in my head, and I want to
know for future reference.

By the way, I apologize if I sound harsh or anything, I'm just trying to be
specific so I get the facts, and if the facts I have are wrong, I want to
see where exactly so I can learn. Hope this makes sense, and thanks! :)

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 8:25 AM Riz  wrote:

Hi Shay,


from what I know, classes have a period (so, it should be .tc-tiddler-body
and it's not).


Yes they do have a period - when declared in the stylesheet, not when
called. Did you try adding Mark's code to a stylesheet and try?

if I add tc-tiddler-body for that, so that h2.tc-tiddler-body, nothing
happens

,
h2.tc-tiddler-body won't work because tc-tiddler-body is not a class of h2,
rather h2 is a child of .tc-tiddler-body.


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Re: [tw] Re: choose style for h2 inside tiddler, not ALL h2.

[Shay Shaked]

Yes! This one worked Riz. Thanks!

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:19 PM Riz  wrote:

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>
> div.tc-tiddler-body h2 { color:blue; }
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[tw] Re: choose style for h2 inside tiddler, not ALL h2.

[Shay Shaked]

I do not agree. I don't have a better idea of what exactly tc-tiddler-body 
is, but from what I know, classes have a period (so, it should be 
.tc-tiddler-body and it's not). Either way, I did try to call 
tc-tiddler-body in my CSS code and nothing happened. It is not recognized. 
I have a certain font for  right now, so all h2 are affected. if I add 
tc-tiddler-body for that, so that h2.tc-tiddler-body, nothing happens. Even 
if call tc-tiddler-body itself was possible, it would affect the entire 
div, so I will not get a highlight under the  in it. 

Let me know if you have more ideas? Thanks for helping out!

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 11:41:47 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> tc-tiddler-body is a class used in a div. The H2 tags nests inside it. My 
> grasp of CSS may be rusty, but I don't think CSS cares what tags the 
> classes live in or are nested in unless there happens to be a more specific 
> CSS rule. In any event, the style I showed seems to work on mine. I don't 
> see it turning anything blue except the internal !! lines. Perhaps your 
> actual use-case is something else?
>
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 7:33:02 PM UTC-7, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> Mark, 
>>
>> wish it was that easy hehe. I've been playing with styles (and inspecting 
>> elements) for a while. The problem is that tc-tiddler-body is not a 
>> class, it's a ... however the only way I know to call a div in CSS is 
>> if it has an ID, and these divs do not. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 10:28:37 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Something like this might work:
>>>
>>> .tc-tiddler-body h2{
>>> color:blue;
>>> }
>>>
>>> If you have firefox, you can right click on an element and use "Inspect 
>>> Element" to see what the various classes used in setting up the tiddler.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 6:02:25 PM UTC-7, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, another CSS question from yours truely. 
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to figure out how to write CSS for *just *the h2 headers 
>>>> inside a tiddler, following a title. 
>>>>
>>>> TiddlyWiki currently use h2 in many places, including the Tiddler's 
>>>> title and the Wiki's title. I don't want these affected. I would create a 
>>>> class for that, but I don't know how to tell TW to run this class every 
>>>> time I write in !! for a title. Is this part editable? Can I find the line 
>>>> of code where TW gets that !! is, in fact, ? If I can find that, then 
>>>> I 
>>>> can change !! to a certain class of  and all will be good. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! 
>>>>
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[tw] Re: choose style for h2 inside tiddler, not ALL h2.

[Shay Shaked]

Mark, 

wish it was that easy hehe. I've been playing with styles (and inspecting 
elements) for a while. The problem is that tc-tiddler-body is not a class, 
it's a ... however the only way I know to call a div in CSS is if it 
has an ID, and these divs do not. 

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 10:28:37 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Something like this might work:
>
> .tc-tiddler-body h2{
> color:blue;
> }
>
> If you have firefox, you can right click on an element and use "Inspect 
> Element" to see what the various classes used in setting up the tiddler.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 6:02:25 PM UTC-7, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> So, another CSS question from yours truely. 
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out how to write CSS for *just *the h2 headers 
>> inside a tiddler, following a title. 
>>
>> TiddlyWiki currently use h2 in many places, including the Tiddler's title 
>> and the Wiki's title. I don't want these affected. I would create a class 
>> for that, but I don't know how to tell TW to run this class every time I 
>> write in !! for a title. Is this part editable? Can I find the line of code 
>> where TW gets that !! is, in fact, ? If I can find that, then I can 
>> change !! to a certain class of  and all will be good. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
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[tw] choose style for h2 inside tiddler, not ALL h2.

[Shay Shaked]

So, another CSS question from yours truely. 

I'm trying to figure out how to write CSS for *just *the h2 headers inside 
a tiddler, following a title. 

TiddlyWiki currently use h2 in many places, including the Tiddler's title 
and the Wiki's title. I don't want these affected. I would create a class 
for that, but I don't know how to tell TW to run this class every time I 
write in !! for a title. Is this part editable? Can I find the line of code 
where TW gets that !! is, in fact, ? If I can find that, then I can 
change !! to a certain class of  and all will be good. 

Thanks! 

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Re: [tw] Re: Images in TW - correct usage question

[Shay Shaked]

Oh yes, additional options to describe different macros could be awesome...
for example if I want an image to float left instead of right, or change
its width... man I love the options with TW.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:35 AM Ton Gerner  wrote:

> Hi Tobias,
>
> Yeah, I remember it took me a while before I wrote my first macro ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 8:43:55 AM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Ton,
>
>
> It is very simple:
>
> Create a tiddler, e.g. $:/_image-thumbnail-macro, tagged with
> $:/tags/Macro, which contains:
>
>
> ...it's kind of interesting, these entry-level barriers that kinda force
> every newcomer to take a moment and ponder the workings of TiddlyWiki, so
> as to learn to make good use of it rather than just rely on pre-baked
> components and solutions.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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Re: [tw] Re: Images in TW - correct usage question

[Shay Shaked]

Ah HA! Answered my own question. 

Went to the official TW pages. Like always, if you just look at them 
without having some previous hints provided to build on (like I got here in 
this awesome group) I wouldn't know what to do. But, looking at the syntax, 
I tried this: 

\define image(source caption)
@@.TW-image

^^$caption$^^
@@
\end

And walla! an image AND a caption defined within a single line, without the 
need of adding a 10px margin physically via photoshop (which is how I've 
done it so far). 

I really hope this will be useful for anyone else needing help! it worksss!



On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 7:27:37 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> This is amazing stuff! 
>
> I worked on the macro to reflect the style I want: 
> \define image(source)
> @@.TW-image
> 
> 
> @@
> \end
>
>
>
> where .TW-image is as follows: 
>
> .TW-image{ 
> float: right; 
> margin-left: 10px; 
> width: 250px;
>
> }
>
>
> And it all works fine in the macro. 
>
> Here's the last thing I want: the ability to add a caption below. 
> In the past, I wrote the whole thing down like so: 
>
> @@float: right;
>  
> ^^this is the caption^^
> @@
>
> And I had the ability to add the caption as you can see. But now if I 
> throw it into the macro, it will give me the same caption each time. What 
> I'm looking for is something kinda like this:
>
> \define image(source)(caption)
>
> I know the syntex is wrong. How do I tell the macro I need to put in two 
> "variables" (not sure that's the right term)? 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 2:43:55 AM UTC-4, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ton,
>>  
>>
>>> It is very simple:
>>>
>>> Create a tiddler, e.g. $:/_image-thumbnail-macro, tagged with 
>>> $:/tags/Macro, which contains:
>>>
>>
>> ...it's kind of interesting, these entry-level barriers that kinda force 
>> every newcomer to take a moment and ponder the workings of TiddlyWiki, so 
>> as to learn to make good use of it rather than just rely on pre-baked 
>> components and solutions.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Images in TW - correct usage question

[Shay Shaked]

On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 7:27:37 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> This is amazing stuff! 
>
> I worked on the macro to reflect the style I want: 
> \define image(source)
> @@.TW-image
> 
> 
> @@
> \end
>
>
>
> where .TW-image is as follows: 
>
> .TW-image{ 
> float: right; 
> margin-left: 10px; 
> width: 250px;
>
> }
>
>
> And it all works fine in the macro. 
>
> Here's the last thing I want: the ability to add a caption below. 
> In the past, I wrote the whole thing down like so: 
>
> @@float: right;
>  
> ^^this is the caption^^
> @@
>
> And I had the ability to add the caption as you can see. But now if I 
> throw it into the macro, it will give me the same caption each time. What 
> I'm looking for is something kinda like this:
>
> \define image(source)(caption)
>
> I know the syntex is wrong. How do I tell the macro I need to put in two 
> "variables" (not sure that's the right term)? 
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Images in TW - correct usage question

[Shay Shaked]

This is amazing stuff! 

I worked on the macro to reflect the style I want: 
\define image(source)
@@.TW-image


@@
\end



where .TW-image is as follows: 

.TW-image{ 
float: right; 
margin-left: 10px; 
width: 250px;

}


And it all works fine in the macro. 

Here's the last thing I want: the ability to add a caption below. 
In the past, I wrote the whole thing down like so: 

@@float: right;
 
^^this is the caption^^
@@

And I had the ability to add the caption as you can see. But now if I throw 
it into the macro, it will give me the same caption each time. What I'm 
looking for is something kinda like this:

\define image(source)(caption)

I know the syntex is wrong. How do I tell the macro I need to put in two 
"variables" (not sure that's the right term)? 





On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 2:43:55 AM UTC-4, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Ton,
>  
>
>> It is very simple:
>>
>> Create a tiddler, e.g. $:/_image-thumbnail-macro, tagged with 
>> $:/tags/Macro, which contains:
>>
>
> ...it's kind of interesting, these entry-level barriers that kinda force 
> every newcomer to take a moment and ponder the workings of TiddlyWiki, so 
> as to learn to make good use of it rather than just rely on pre-baked 
> components and solutions.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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Re: [tw] Re: Images in TW - correct usage question

[Shay Shaked]

Hi Ton, 

I think I understand the usage here. How can I add CSS into the mix, as 
what I want it also float and a margin for the image (otherwise it touches 
the text)? 

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 2:11:42 PM UTC-4, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Shay,
>
> It is very simple:
>
> Create a tiddler, e.g. $:/_image-thumbnail-macro, tagged with 
> $:/tags/Macro, which contains:
>
> \define image(source)
> 
> 
> \end
>
> Then you can use the macro as follows:
>
> <>
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Ton
>
>
> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 2:51:01 PM UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tobias. 
>>
>> I don't know enough about macros to create or build one but sounds 
>> useful. For now I guess I can copy paste...
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016, 12:56 Tobias Beer <beert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Shay,
>>>
>>> If you want a more generalized macro, try
>>>
>>> linkimg @ tb5 <http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#linkimg>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Tobias.
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Re: [tw] Re: Images in TW - correct usage question

[Shay Shaked]

Thanks Tobias.

I don't know enough about macros to create or build one but sounds useful.
For now I guess I can copy paste...

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>
> If you want a more generalized macro, try
>
> linkimg @ tb5 
>
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[tw] Images in TW - correct usage question

[Shay Shaked]

Hello, 

I want to create the following HTML affect in TW: 
 


Yes, this works no problem. But the notion of using an HTML snippet every 
time I want to create an image makes me feel somewhat of a defeat I guess.. 
it feels like "cheating." I am wondering if this ability exists in TW 5.0 
as is. Now, I know that implementing it with  tiddler links would probably 
work, such as: 
[img[TW_Media/image.png][imagetiddler]]
(also, is my syntax correct?)

But... here's the thing, and this is purely an opinion: is that how TW 
meant to work? A tiddler with an image has to have an image imported into 
it, if I understand correctly, or can it link to outside source? Even if it 
can (I'm not sure), do you guys use TW this way, with images and perhaps 
audio files and such imported into your TW, and if so, do you add extra 
fluff to it like information about the source and where it was taken from? 
And of course, why do you use it this way, or not? Again, I'm just curious 
for your usage "ethics" I guess. 


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[tw] What's the name for the color field for the editor's buttons when you edit a Tiddler?

[Shay Shaked]

Hi guys, 

this drove me nuts for an hour. I don't want to work around it with CSS if 
I have it somewhere. 

When customizing your palette, what's the field that's responsible for the 
buttons (the line of buttons with the icons close to the title, which give 
you options like bold, italic, preview...)? I have to change the color for 
it, it seems to inherit it somehow. 

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[tw] Re: color schemes / galleries?

[Shay Shaked]

lol... there's nothing wrong with the old ones, it's just that I see no 
updates :p

On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 9:19:26 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hey, be nice, that one from 2008 was mine... :-) 
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 7:05:12 PM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> So I'm wondering if there's any place online that doesn't happen to be 
>> from like 2008 or something with themes or a showcase of what people have 
>> done with TW. Maybe even in this group, a thread of show and tell kinda? 
>> I'm looking for fresh ideas and inspirations. Suggestions? 
>>
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[tw] color schemes / galleries?

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So I'm wondering if there's any place online that doesn't happen to be from 
like 2008 or something with themes or a showcase of what people have done 
with TW. Maybe even in this group, a thread of show and tell kinda? I'm 
looking for fresh ideas and inspirations. Suggestions? 

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Re: [tw] Want to add a tag to multiple tiddlers -- how?

[Shay Shaked]

nice! somewhat of a weird solution, but worked like charm. Thanks! 

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 6:31:49 PM UTC-4, Jan wrote:
>
> Hej Shay!
> Create this button
>
> <$button>Tag with xxx
> <$list filter='[list[$:/StoryList]]'>
> <$fieldmangler tiddler=<>>
> <$action-sendmessage $message='tm-add-tag' $param=xxx/>
> 
> 
> 
>
> replace xxx with the Tag you want to apply.
> Open all the Tiddlers you want to tag in the story ('cause all tiddlers in 
> the story will be tagged...)
> And here you go.
>
> Cheers Jan
>
>
>
>
> Am 13.08.2016 um 23:57 schrieb Shay Shaked:
>
> Hey all, 
>
> I have customized my journal style to include background but now. how 
> do I add all my old journal tiddlers to the new tag? I must have around 50 
> of them. I don't want to go through each individual one and add a tag 
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[tw] Want to add a tag to multiple tiddlers -- how?

[Shay Shaked]

Hey all, 

I have customized my journal style to include background but now. how 
do I add all my old journal tiddlers to the new tag? I must have around 50 
of them. I don't want to go through each individual one and add a tag 
manually, there must be a better way I'm not aware of? 

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 9:10:32 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> What I wrote is a much simpler version of the toc macros. So using that 
> wouldn't really make it simpler. And the toc macros are set up to do a 
> specific thing and aren't flexible in the way that would let you do what 
> you want. I think it is possible using the macros, but you would need some 
> interesting code and it would be more of an experiment in strange coding 
> than something usable.
>
> So ,now your questions:
>
> !has[parent] in the filter means tiddlers that don't have a parent field 
>
> <> is a variable used by tiddlywiki, you can copy and 
> paste exactly what I posted.
>
> {{ ||...}} is transclusion as a template. It is what let's the toc and 
> other things have an arbitrary number of sub items instead of coding a set 
> number. It is sort of analogous to a function in other languages. 
>
> is[current] refers to the current tiddler, it means use whatever the 
> current tiddler is. 
>
> description is just some field, if you want it called something different 
> it can be changed. 
>
> A field can have whatever name you want. They are name:value pairs. There 
> are some common to all tiddlers but you can add any you want. The ones used 
> by almost all of them are: title, created, modified, text, tags, creator 
> and modifier
>

I created the two tiddlers. I'm trying to get the childTasks to show under 
Task List tiddler, but no go. It all just shows as one bullet list with the 
check boxes. I'm probably not understanding the setup for it. I'm working 
on it.. 

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

Jed, this looks way more complicated than I originally imagined. I guess 
then that the toc-selective-expandable micro can't work with a list filter? 
I don't understand the code fully: t

   - The has property, and rather or not "parent" is actually something 
   that is built into the code or is just anything you call it? if so, what 
   does the has[] looks for? I understand tag[].
   - <> means put a name in there, or does TW knows we're 
   talking about the Tiddler this code is in?
   - {{||.}} is this line of code actually defines *another *Tiddler 
   inside this code?
   - is [] property, same question as the has[] what does it do, and does 
   it follow by user's input or is current actually defined? (I assume it's 
   looking for user input)
   - fields: title is self-explanatory, but what is the description? the 
   body of the tiddler?  
   
I have more questions on the child tiddler, but I think these are the same 
basically. It's not that I don't' trust you of course, but I want to 
understand what you're doing. I've been looking in tiddlywiki.com but the 
explanations there trust that I have a certain basic vocabulary that I 
don't. I find that I have patient especially with TW because I love what it 
does, and I enjoy learning it. Hope you don't mind. 

Thank you!  



On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:47:16 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Make two tiddlers. The Task List Tiddler, called whatever you want it to 
> be, and the child tasks template called 'childTasks' with the following 
> code:
>
> Task List tiddler:
>
> 
> <$list filter='[tag[task]!has[parent]]'>
> <$list filter='[is[current]!tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done><$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> <$list filter='[is[current]tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done>~~<$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>~~
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Child tasks template:
>
> 
> <$list filter='[tag[task]parent{!!title}]'>
> <$list filter='[is[current]!tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done><$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> <$list filter='[is[current]tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done>~~<$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>~~
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Then if a tiddler is tagged with `Task` and doesn't have a parent field it 
> will be listed as a root task, if a tiddler has the tag Task and a parent 
> field it will be listed as a sub-entry of the parent task.
>

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

Update 20160802.0911

I have an idea. I'm trying to have the toc-expandable property to work with the 
filter list the task management currently works with. The problem is that I 
don't know how to do it, the list filter is a different than the toc 
expandable. 

Anyone has an idea?

Sorry, I'm traveling so I can't edit this post well. Thanks!

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

*Update 10260802:* 
They current way to work with checkboxes and tasks in TW5 has one problem 
with what I want to accomplish. Once a list filter is placed in the code 
(<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]...">) the list presents 
as a unit, and there's no way for me to add text between the checkboxes or 
add an additional list under an item on the "parent" list. I'm restricted 
to one-level simple checklist.

I'm looking into CSS only that  will allow me to change the text-decoration 
of a line preceded by a *checked *checkbox to stirkethrough. If I could 
 define a class of a checkbox and use it this way, perhaps I could bypass 
the above problem. 

Likewise, if you guys see a simpler solution to my problem, let me know! 
 Thanks in advance. 



On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
> someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
> need. 
>
>
>
>- I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. When 
>checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as strike-through. 
>- Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in the 
>past, it seemed to have reset). 
>- I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
>"parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
>- I want to be able to include a short description under each checkbox 
>item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a simple matter 
> of 
>just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to look like. 
>
> This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
> checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
> create something like this?
>
> *** Edit
>
> I checked TaskManagementExample 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#TaskManagementExample> and I see TW5 has a very, 
> very close solution to what I want. The problem here is that I have to 
> created tiddler for each task. This is becoming a problem if I just want a 
> simple rundown of my project in one place... I will need to have my 
> sub-tasks nested with the main project, and that's becoming more 
> complicated because I will need to have them tagged three times at the end: 
> as task, as done, and then as the parent tag. 
>
> Does anyone uses TW for project management and can share a sample with me? 
>
>

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[tw] Project Management in TW - reopening the topic

[Shay Shaked]

This is a "bump" to 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/shay$20shaked%7Csort:relevance/tiddlywiki/9CGOHUU7Lxs/BfaRWFACAwAJ

People tried to help me out, but the solution offered are very specific 
with code which I don't understand how to implement. I need more if a step 
by step process, until I get the hang on TW syntax a bit better. if anyone 
can help? 

Again, what I need is a somewhat more complicated solution than the 
TaskManagmentExamples including in TW. specifically: 


   1. I want the option of sublist of checkboxes under a certain checkbox, 
   to create subtasks. Very similar to a regular bullet point list with 
   sub-bullets, just checkboxes instead. 
   2. I want to be able to include text or image under a checkbox, so the 
   automated field of tasks doesn't work because I can't interrupt it with text
   3. I want to maintain the strikethough when checking a task. The end 
   result doesn't have to very sophisticated... 

suggestions? help? Where do I start? 

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

I went over this after some time I forgot about this problem. I don't 
understand how to use the solutions posted at this point; they are too 
specific and I feel I need more step by step procedure. I'm continuing 
research. 

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:48:33 PM UTC-4, c pa wrote:
>
> Try this: create the following tiddlers. Using this you store the task 
> status as a tag in one tiddler (taskmanager)
>
> title: "taskme"
> text: <$checkbox tiddler="taskmanager" tag=<> > 
> {{!!title}}
>
> title: mytasks
> text: 
> * {{What am I doing?||taskme}}
> * {{I have some time||taskme}}
>

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[tw] floating images, again.. TW5

[Shay Shaked]

Hi guys, this is a confusing topic and I saw several entries in this forum. 

I want to have an image floating to the left, but ALSO define a margin (so 
the text doesn't "touch" the image) and also resize is to 250px. 

I created this in the stylesheet: 
.img-left { float: left; margin-right: 0.5em; width=250; }

in the body of the tidler, I guess I need to include[ img class=img-left; 
[img[(link here)]], but it doesn't seem to "catch", the image takes the 
whole width and seem to ignore my CSS. 

To make things more complicated (why not) there's an annoying "gap" at the 
bottom of floating images, almost a whole line, before the text starts. I'd 
like to illiminate it, unless I include a caption, which I usually use 
upper text ^^ for. Can anyone help me with getitng TW to figure out the 
CSS? 

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[tw] Re: Multiple TiddlerField(s) for audio files?

[Shay Shaked]

PMario, 

thank you for all the links. I have to carefully ready through the examples 
to understand what's going on there. So you're saying, I should go ahead 
and create the five audio tiddlers (that point to an external file) and 
then just display them in a list in another tiddler. This can work. I guess 
my concern is that I will end up having a bunch of these tiddlers that 
contain nothing but a single piece of media (be it audio, photo or a video) 
with no organization... which of course, is simple to fix with tags. just 
seems like there's a lot of work to do there. H.  

On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 9:06:17 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 5:23:49 AM UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> but when I click "add new field" as required, the previous one is *replaced. 
>> *I want it to be added so I can add another recording. Is that possible? 
>> I understand that I could have a list like that on the "parent" journal 
>> tiddler itself because it will summon the audio tiddlers, of which I can 
>> have five.. however, for sake of organization, I'd rather have only one 
>> audio tiddler, with all of them. Is this possible? 
>>
>
> no ...
>
> TW is optimized for tiddlers as the smallest content container. You can 
> tag your audio tiddlers and list them with the list-links macro: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#list-links%20Macro%20(Examples) or the 
> list-widget. 
>
>  
>
>> Then the next question is, is this even the recommended way to do so? 
>>
>
> no ... see above.
>  
>
>> Now the last and the most open ended question.. I just stumbled upon the 
>> knowledge of creating a media tiddler that summons and *external *file 
>> using a link. This is potentially very cool. Can I do the same for, say, 
>> images, so the tiddler I write doesn't have the actual path but instead 
>> calls for an "image" tiddler?
>>
>
> see: http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages
> and 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Formatting%20text%20in%20TiddlyWiki:%5B%5BFormatting%20text%20in%20TiddlyWiki%5D%5D%20WikiText%20%5B%5BBlurry%20Lawn.jpg%5D%5D%20ExternalImages%20Audio%20%5B%5Blist-links%20Macro%20(Examples)%5D%5D
>
> There are several tiddlers related to external content ... and ... a 
> general overview about TW wikitext, which may be interesting. 
>
>  
>
>> and, if that is the case, can I have a "media" tiddler of sorts that I 
>> can summon into the parent tiddler?
>>
>
> transclusion is the key word here: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20Basic%20Usage
>  
>
>> I am not sure how I could break up the images if they are all in one 
>> tiddler, so it makes sense in the parent tiddler though (see, I told you 
>> guys this might not make sense). I will try to illustrate again: 
>>
>
> again one tiddler = one image. ... You'll find out, that this mechanism is 
> so much more powerful. 
>
>
>  
>
>> Title: MEDIA TIDDLER
>>
>
> Some intro text in the "root" media tiddler 
>
> <>
>
>
>  
>
>> pic 1
>> pic 2
>> pic 3
>>
>
> one tiddler per image and tag them "myImage" to list them in any other 
> context. 
>
> or use
>
>
> pic 1
>>
>
> {{pic1.jpg}} 
>
>  
>
>> text.. bla bla..
>>
>
> {{pic2.jpg}} 
>
> bla bla bla..
>>
>>
>> See the problem above?
>>
>
> yes. no problem :)
>
>  
>
>> if I call that tiddler, it will throw in everything at once. Assuming, of 
>> course, I can call more than one content piece, as indicated in question 
>> 1...
>>
>
> The list links macro is a very simple implementation to get a list. ... If 
> you need a different representation we can build them dynamically with the 
> list-widget. 
>
> Have a closer look about tagging. 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging:Tagging%20%5B%5BWorking%20with%20TiddlyWiki%5D%5D
>   
> It's a key feature of TW. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>

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[tw] Multiple TiddlerField(s) for audio files?

[Shay Shaked]

It's past my bedtime, and I'm trying to record a journal entry and this 
might make no sense what's so ever but here goes. 




Earlier in the day I recorded myself walking on my phone. I then created 5 
MP3 files from my recordings, about 20MB in total. I wanted to embed them 
into the day's journal tiddler, but discovered that I have to create a 
tiddler to contain the audio file, or at least, a link to an external audio 
file. OK. Did a bit of research, found out how to do that. Now what I will 
do is to create a "child" tiddler under the journal entry with the 
recordings. 

Now.. here are my questions. 

I have five files. I want the recordings to show up all in one tinder, so 
it will look something like this: 
[---audio 1---]
[---audio 2---]
[---audio 3---]

etc... 
but when I click "add new field" as required, the previous one is *replaced. 
*I want it to be added so I can add another recording. Is that possible? I 
understand that I could have a list like that on the "parent" journal 
tiddler itself because it will summon the audio tiddlers, of which I can 
have five.. however, for sake of organization, I'd rather have only one 
audio tiddler, with all of them. Is this possible? 

Then the next question is, is this even the recommended way to do so? 

Now the last and the most open ended question.. I just stumbled upon the 
knowledge of creating a media tiddler that summons and *external *file 
using a link. This is potentially very cool. Can I do the same for, say, 
images, so the tiddler I write doesn't have the actual path but instead 
calls for an "image" tiddler? and, if that is the case, can I have a 
"media" tiddler of sorts that I can summon into the parent tiddler? I am 
not sure how I could break up the images if they are all in one tiddler, so 
it makes sense in the parent tiddler though (see, I told you guys this 
might not make sense). I will try to illustrate again: 

Title: MEDIA TIDDLER

pic 1
pic 2
pic 3

and then: 

Title: PARENT TIDDLER

text.. bla bla
bla bla
 
pic 1

text.. bla bla..
pic 2

bla bla bla..


See the problem above? if I call that tiddler, it will throw in everything 
at once. Assuming, of course, I can call more than one content piece, as 
indicated in question 1...


whew! OK. Def need sleep. How would you guys go at it? 

Thanks!!! 

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Re: [tw] Re: change font for tiddlers under a certain tag (journal)

[Shay Shaked]

Hi Progetti (and others),

this is a CSS question. Wondering if you can help.

I have this code:

.tc-tagged-201605 p{
font-family: "Bookman Old Style";
font-size: 115%;
}

.tc-tagged-201605 li {
font-family: "Bookman Old Style";
 font-size: 115%;

How can I write it in one line, so I can define BOTH p and li without
specifying the tag class each time? I just don't know the syntax for the
code. is it p,li? p, li? {p li}? I tried to look it up but i don't know
what these terms are called for an effective Google search. Thank you!

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:33 PM Shay Shaked <s.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That did it! .tc-titlebar is the right... class? I thought it's a div.
> Either way, it works. Thank you!
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:23 PM <proge...@assays.tv> wrote:
>
>> its an H2, by the way.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:14:32 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>>>
>>> Does ".tc-tagged-CHOSENTAG .tc-titlebar {CSS code}" get it?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:33:36 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is most excellent! I can now have a different font for anything
>>>> "journal." I'd like now to change it so that my headings and title are also
>>>> part of the change, but not the tags inside or the time stamp. This means I
>>>> had to include my CSS porperties within "p{}" and I went ahead and did the
>>>> same for h1... however, what is the title? I tried "title"
>>>> or tc-tiddler-title, but it doesn't seem to work. Suggestions? and thanks
>>>> Progetti!
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:35 PM <prog...@assays.tv> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Footnotes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was assuming  you use TW5.
>>>>>
>>>>> In case its not clear the stylesheet tiddler you create needs to be
>>>>> tagged "$:/tags/Stylesheet"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:17:32 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fortunately its easy if you use one tag for all, like "journal". Here
>>>>>> is the documentation: http://tinyurl.com/j7rq6ex. AND you can get
>>>>>> more sophisticated if needed with overrides possible so long as you get 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> CSS cascade order right, i.e. start a style for a tag common to all your
>>>>>> entries you want to re-style, then override that style for more specific
>>>>>> tags.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:15:29 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello people!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today's question is, how can I change the font of my journal
>>>>>>> entries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I write my journal entries in reverse date order, so I have mm
>>>>>>> tag for each month. Each month I go to the last month tag, which also 
>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>> table of contents of all of my tiddlers and sometimes goals, and make a
>>>>>>> clone of it. I then change that tiddler title to reflect the new month, 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> tweak the TOC settings to display the right tiddlers. For organization
>>>>>>> sake, I am going to move all these tags under a general "journal" tag 
>>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I want is that whenever I tag a tiddler with one of my mm
>>>>>>> tags, it will automatically change font. I know how to change fonts in 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> main settings, but that changes the font for *everything*, which I
>>>>>>> don't want. Any suggestions? I don't mind including a piece of code into
>>>>>>> each of my monthly tags I mentioned above, if that helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks!
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Re: [tw] Re: change font for tiddlers under a certain tag (journal)

[Shay Shaked]

That did it! .tc-titlebar is the right... class? I thought it's a div.
Either way, it works. Thank you!

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:23 PM <proge...@assays.tv> wrote:

> its an H2, by the way.
>
>
> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:14:32 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>>
>> Does ".tc-tagged-CHOSENTAG .tc-titlebar {CSS code}" get it?
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:33:36 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> This is most excellent! I can now have a different font for anything
>>> "journal." I'd like now to change it so that my headings and title are also
>>> part of the change, but not the tags inside or the time stamp. This means I
>>> had to include my CSS porperties within "p{}" and I went ahead and did the
>>> same for h1... however, what is the title? I tried "title"
>>> or tc-tiddler-title, but it doesn't seem to work. Suggestions? and thanks
>>> Progetti!
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:35 PM <prog...@assays.tv> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Footnotes:
>>>>
>>>> I was assuming  you use TW5.
>>>>
>>>> In case its not clear the stylesheet tiddler you create needs to be
>>>> tagged "$:/tags/Stylesheet"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:17:32 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately its easy if you use one tag for all, like "journal". Here
>>>>> is the documentation: http://tinyurl.com/j7rq6ex. AND you can get
>>>>> more sophisticated if needed with overrides possible so long as you get 
>>>>> the
>>>>> CSS cascade order right, i.e. start a style for a tag common to all your
>>>>> entries you want to re-style, then override that style for more specific
>>>>> tags.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:15:29 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello people!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's question is, how can I change the font of my journal entries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I write my journal entries in reverse date order, so I have mm
>>>>>> tag for each month. Each month I go to the last month tag, which also 
>>>>>> has a
>>>>>> table of contents of all of my tiddlers and sometimes goals, and make a
>>>>>> clone of it. I then change that tiddler title to reflect the new month, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> tweak the TOC settings to display the right tiddlers. For organization
>>>>>> sake, I am going to move all these tags under a general "journal" tag 
>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I want is that whenever I tag a tiddler with one of my mm
>>>>>> tags, it will automatically change font. I know how to change fonts in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> main settings, but that changes the font for *everything*, which I
>>>>>> don't want. Any suggestions? I don't mind including a piece of code into
>>>>>> each of my monthly tags I mentioned above, if that helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: change font for tiddlers under a certain tag (journal)

[Shay Shaked]

This is most excellent! I can now have a different font for anything
"journal." I'd like now to change it so that my headings and title are also
part of the change, but not the tags inside or the time stamp. This means I
had to include my CSS porperties within "p{}" and I went ahead and did the
same for h1... however, what is the title? I tried "title"
or tc-tiddler-title, but it doesn't seem to work. Suggestions? and thanks
Progetti!

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:35 PM <proge...@assays.tv> wrote:

> Footnotes:
>
> I was assuming  you use TW5.
>
> In case its not clear the stylesheet tiddler you create needs to be tagged
> "$:/tags/Stylesheet"
>
>
> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:17:32 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>>
>> Fortunately its easy if you use one tag for all, like "journal". Here is
>> the documentation: http://tinyurl.com/j7rq6ex. AND you can get more
>> sophisticated if needed with overrides possible so long as you get the CSS
>> cascade order right, i.e. start a style for a tag common to all your
>> entries you want to re-style, then override that style for more specific
>> tags.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:15:29 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello people!
>>>
>>> Today's question is, how can I change the font of my journal entries.
>>>
>>> I write my journal entries in reverse date order, so I have mm tag
>>> for each month. Each month I go to the last month tag, which also has a
>>> table of contents of all of my tiddlers and sometimes goals, and make a
>>> clone of it. I then change that tiddler title to reflect the new month, and
>>> tweak the TOC settings to display the right tiddlers. For organization
>>> sake, I am going to move all these tags under a general "journal" tag soon.
>>>
>>> What I want is that whenever I tag a tiddler with one of my mm tags,
>>> it will automatically change font. I know how to change fonts in the main
>>> settings, but that changes the font for *everything*, which I don't
>>> want. Any suggestions? I don't mind including a piece of code into each of
>>> my monthly tags I mentioned above, if that helps.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw] change font for tiddlers under a certain tag (journal)

[Shay Shaked]

Hello people! 

Today's question is, how can I change the font of my journal entries. 

I write my journal entries in reverse date order, so I have mm tag for 
each month. Each month I go to the last month tag, which also has a table 
of contents of all of my tiddlers and sometimes goals, and make a clone of 
it. I then change that tiddler title to reflect the new month, and tweak 
the TOC settings to display the right tiddlers. For organization sake, I am 
going to move all these tags under a general "journal" tag soon. 

What I want is that whenever I tag a tiddler with one of my mm tags, it 
will automatically change font. I know how to change fonts in the main 
settings, but that changes the font for *everything*, which I don't want. 
Any suggestions? I don't mind including a piece of code into each of my 
monthly tags I mentioned above, if that helps. 

thanks! 



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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

haha I just posted about this. I just finished reading through it and got 
the idea of kind of how it works :D

On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-4, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Hi Shay,
>
> Have you had a look at the TaskManagementExample 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#TaskManagementExample>?
>
> Hegart.
>
>
> On Monday, 18 April 2016 11:46:07 UTC+12, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
>> someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
>> need. 
>>
>>
>>
>>- I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. When 
>>checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as strike-through. 
>>- Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in 
>>the past, it seemed to have reset). 
>>- I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
>>"parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
>>- I want to be able to include a short description under each 
>>checkbox item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a 
>> simple 
>>matter of just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to 
>>look like. 
>>
>> This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
>> checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
>> create something like this?
>>
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[tw] Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
need. 



   - I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. When 
   checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as strike-through. 
   - Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in the 
   past, it seemed to have reset). 
   - I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
   "parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
   - I want to be able to include a short description under each checkbox 
   item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a simple matter of 
   just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to look like. 

This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
create something like this?

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[tw] Abbreviations for Tiddler links

[Shay Shaked]

Hi guys, 

so this is probably something someone figured out... 

I use CamleCase a whole lot and I like it so much it became a routine form 
to SMS my friend (I love driving them nuts with my nerdiness).. thing is, I 
can have a long Tiddler name like LongTiddlerAboutJohnDoe (for example) but 
typing it out 6 times in a different tiddler as a reference is 
annoinggg. Is there a way where I could abbreviate it? In this example, 
LTAJD will bring up that Tiddler. The way this will work is either 
substituting the abbreviation to the long form (looks hard) or, the 
abbreviation will automatically link to the long form tTdler.I also 
want to be able to escape that by using ~, so when I write ~LTAJD, it will *not 
*do that. So, suggestions? Thanks!

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[tw] Re: doesn't work, how to ignore syntax?

[Shay Shaked]

Eric, 

 doesn't work in TW5. I tried it on other, simpler line of text. No 
affect. I am then left wondering how to ignore syntax in TW5?

On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 1:38:30 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 10:26:29 AM UTC-8, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> Eric, still doesn't work: 
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qYMx3bTVZhY/VtHqT5o0qVI/Tvw/boObcwBVXtc/s1600/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2016-02-27%2B13%253A25%253A53.png>
>>
>> Try adding a newline after the closing .  If that doesn't help, 
> try progressively removing bits of your content to see if any of it is 
> interferring in some strange way.  I'd try it myself, but you only posted 
> snapshots of the content, so I can't copy/paste it into a live TW to 
> experiment.
>
> -e
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[tw] Re: doesn't work, how to ignore syntax?

[Shay Shaked]

On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:48:24 AM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I don't know what is it in this piece of text I copy-pasted, but I can't 
> close the quote block. I tried to tell TW to ignore any formatting in this 
> text block, but all my attempts failed. Here's an image: 
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bImbUSBBgVk/VtG27yFSXeI/Tvg/e746Fh1vaLg/s1600/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2016-02-27%2B09%253A13%253A23.png>
> As you can see, the block-quote ignores the closure indicator (or whatever 
> you want to call it) and happily continues on its marry way. How to stop 
> it? Hmm? 
>

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[tw] Re: doesn't work, how to ignore syntax?

[Shay Shaked]

Eric, still doesn't work: 

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qYMx3bTVZhY/VtHqT5o0qVI/Tvw/boObcwBVXtc/s1600/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2016-02-27%2B13%253A25%253A53.png>


On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:48:24 AM UTC-8, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> I don't know what is it in this piece of text I copy-pasted, but I can't 
>> close the quote block. I tried to tell TW to ignore any formatting in this 
>> text block, but all my attempts failed. Here's an image: 
>>
>
> Use "<<<" to start *and end* the blockquote (not ">>>")
>
> This is before the blockquote
>
> <<<
> 
> this is blockquote text
> note the SAME sequence is used to start and end the blockquote.
> 
> <<<
> This is after the blockquote 
>
> Note that in TWClassic, the blank line before the <<< is will be displayed 
> as literal text (an actual blank line)... you can safely omit the blank 
> line if you don't want the whitespace; however, in TW5, the blank line 
> preceding the "<<<" is needed so the blockquote syntax won't be treated as 
> "inline mode" content rather than being recognized as the start of "block 
> mode" content.  The blank line is not actually displayed.
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] doesn't work, how to ignore syntax?

[Shay Shaked]

I don't know what is it in this piece of text I copy-pasted, but I can't 
close the quote block. I tried to tell TW to ignore any formatting in this 
text block, but all my attempts failed. Here's an image: 


As you can see, the block-quote ignores the closure indicator (or whatever 
you want to call it) and happily continues on its marry way. How to stop 
it? Hmm? 

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Re: [tw] Re: Searching for a *link* to a tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

Wow, that's really useful for even more things! Thanks Scott!

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) <
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> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-5, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Where is this infopanel? Thanks!
>>
>
> I can't get a screenshot at the moment, but go to the toolbar buttons at
> the top of the tiddler and click the down arrow to display the dropdown of
> additional options.  The first item there should be "info," which will open
> the infopanel within the current tiddler.  It will have a row of tabs.
> Switch to "References," and you'll be able to see what tiddlers link to the
> one you're currently viewing.
>
> (I see you already took care of Hedwig, but — y'know, for posterity!  ;)  )
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Re: [tw] Re: Searching for a *link* to a tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

Actually Smandoli, that was a good idea. I viewed source, and my Wiki is
still small enough to go through all the HedwigTwo instences (these are the
good one) and find the Hedwig one. Lesson learned: I can search for
[[Hedwig]] also and I could have found it right away.

Thanks for that, found it and replaced!

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> I'm sure Scott Simmons gave you an answer that is perfectly usable -- at
> least, I have no reason to think otherwise.
>
> However, I would like to point out that you can used a text editor to open
> your TW and run a search on "Hedwig".  Of course, you should do this on a
> copy so there is no risk of hurting anything.
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[tw] Re: Searching for a *link* to a tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

Scott, 

Where is this infopanel? Thanks!


On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 11:28:59 AM UTC-5, Scott Simmons 
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>
> The "References" tab under the infopanel may help.  (Just select "info" 
> from the Hedwig tiddler's dropdown menu.)
>
> I'd probably still use the TW search to search for "TW" in tiddler text, 
> too.  If nothing else, it might provide a clue as to what you were thinking 
> when that tiddler got created an orphaned.  ;)
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[tw] Searching for a *link* to a tiddler

[Shay Shaked]

Hello again gang, 

I guess this is just one of these days I have the time to go through my TW 
and ask tons of questions... This is I believe is a rather simple one 
though. 

I'm combing through my missing tiddlers and writing them as I go, but here 
and there I have a tiddlers that were created by mistake, or that I'm not 
interested in anymore. I would like to find the original tiddler that 
pointed (and created) the missing tiddler, so I can change the text there. 

For example, 
I created a link to a tiddler "Hedwig" (not camelcase, so I really meant it 
when I created it probably...), and now it's missing. I have no need for 
the Hedwig tiddler, but what I want to do first is to find that original 
article I wrote and change the text (and probably link) so it doesn't point 
to Hedwig anymore, but to a different Tiddler. How do I search for that? 

Thanks!!!

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